It’s not a pre-season if there’s not a game at the Blacktown International Sportspark. These two very SuperCoach relevant teams went head to head, and now it’s time to dissect it.

Notable Absentees – SYDNEY

Sam Naismith, Aliir Aliir, Dan Hannebery, Heath Grundy, Dane Rampe, Callum Sinclair

Notable Absentees – GWS

Rory Lobb, Zac Williams, Tom Scully, Ryan Griffen, Jacob Hopper, Will Setterfield

Injuries: Lachlan Tiziani (shoulder), Zac Langdon (shoulder)

Sydney 12.10.82 – GWS 9.17.71

MATCH REPORT

Sydney and GWS only had a relatively small host of key names missing, proving this was a dress rehearsal for round one. Sydney blooding some rookies, and GWS doing the same. Both teams were impressive at stages.

Sydney was dominant in the first quarter, taking a 17 point lead into the first break, looking sharp in front of goal.. Giants stepped it up a bit in the second quarter getting the difference to just one point at the main break. Zac Langdon injured his shoulder late in the second quarter, but came back on after receiving treatment at half time.

Fairly even contest in the third quarter, with both teams dominant in spurts. Neither team going too hard, not wanting to blow a gasket before round one.

Giants found a way to get their nose in front in the final quarter, looking a bit more composed with the ball, before the Swans turned the tide again. Both teams would’ve been content with the game they played despite the result not falling the Giants way.

SYDNEY:

Jake Lloyd ($479,900 DEF) 73SC

Played loose in defence for the Swans. My main worry is where does he go when Rampe and McVeigh come back?

 

Callum Mills ($402,300 DEF) 93SC

Could rival James Sicily at his price point. Consider.

Ryley Stoddart ($117,300 DEF) 23SC

Bench option, but didn’t see a lot of the ball in the second half.

Luke Parker ($546,000 MID) 119SC

Was very good tonight, and looks like he’ll be back to his best this season. Seemed to be playing that coveted midfielder-go-forward role for the Swans. Parker also attended the centre bounce a game high 17 times.

Nic Newman ($454,500 MID) 129SC

Because he is mid only this year, I’d stay away in Classic. He’ll score like this every now and then, which could be good for a team in the SC draft format.

Josh Kennedy ($564,200 MID) 97SC

No denying he is cheap, for what he can do, but not the Swan I’d pick.

Robbie Fox ($200,200 MID) 76SC

Awkwardly priced, and his scoring stalled after a fast start. Pass.

Darcy Cameron ($123,900 RUC) 37SC

Won’t score amazingly, but would be a good bench option if you’re not worried about loopholing, or need cover for someone like Lycett.

Tom Papley ($451,400 FWD/MID) 36SC

He would’ve needed a compelling effort in the second half after only recording a score of 19 in the first, but he only compelled me to cross him off my watch list.

James Rose ($127,500 FWD) 20SC

Pass.

Isaac Heeney ($537,300 FWD/MID) 86SC

Any worry you had after JLT1 should be abolished after today’s performance. Looked a lot better playing at half forward for the Swans. Pick with confidence.

Lance “Buddy” Franklin ($540,500 FWD) 90SC

I think we’ve all established that Buddy will score a 437 one week, and then match his jumper number the next. My advice; Pick him up later when his price drops. Decent option though, if you want to start him and ride the rollercoaster.

Kieren Jack ($406,800 FWD/MID) 81SC

An interesting one, if you were to choose him. Has a history of scoring well, but also has a history of dropping a nice 45 too.

Harry Cunningham ($345,100 FWD) 109SC

26 disposals, 19 by foot. Score helped by 3 frees for. I doubt this is anything significant.

GWS:

Heath Shaw ($458,100 DEF) 62SC

I’m not convinced. Went at 58% disposal efficiency, and gave away 3 free kicks.

Jeremy Finlayson ($123,900 DEF/MID) 66SC

For the love of all things SuperCoach, have this guy on your defence bench, at least. He’s probably one of the best defence rookies to have to start the season.

Stephen Coniglio ($452,400 MID) 95SC

Those who picked this guy without seeing any form first will feel good being vindicated by his first JLT game, but this game embodied all the reservations everyone else has.

Josh Kelly ($626,600 MID) 117SC

Yes. Lead the way with 7 clearances, and 14 contested possessions.

Lachie Whitfield ($536,600 MID) 142SC

Looks like he’ll go another level this year playing off half back. Scored a monster, but may be a different story once the real season begins. Maybe next year.

Dawson Simpson ($290,300 RUC) 30SC

He didn’t do a heck of a lot, other than be taller than everyone else and lead the hitouts. 33 hitouts for 30 points is not good at all. Pass.

Lachlan Keeffe ($123,900 FWD/DEF) 61SC

Didn’t play in the first quarter, seemed to be the one of the only GWS players who didn’t have the same haircut as Jeremy Cameron. Keep him in your thoughts once round 1 teams come around.

Jeremy Cameron ($489,900 FWD) 111SC

Showed that he’s not the worst option to have in your forward line. Consider.

Brett Deledio ($339,800 FWD) 26SC

Hardly noticed him.

Toby Greene ($528,100 FWD) 52SC

First game back from a broken toe, left a lot to be desired. He’ll be good for the run though. Only played 48% game time.

Zac Langdon ($117,300 FWD) 54SC

Injured his shoulder late in the second quarter, but came back on in a positive sign for our forward rookie stocks.

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The final SuperCoach scores as reported by SuperFooty! SYDNEY SWANS Nic Newman 128 Luke Parker 119 Harry Cunningham 108 Sam Reid 103 Josh P. Kennedy 96 Callum Mills 93 Lance Franklin 91 Isaac Heeney 86 Kieren Jack 81 Zak Jones 79 Dean Towers 78 George Hewett 76 Robbie Fox 75 Jake Lloyd 73 Harry Marsh 69 Oliver Florent 61 Lewis Melican 48 Gary Rohan 47 Darcy Cameron 37 Tom Papley 36 Nick Smith 32 Will Hayward 31 Ryley Stoddart 22 James Rose 22 Daniel Robinson 20 GWS GIANTS Lachie Whitfield 141 Josh Kelly 114 Jeremy Cameron 113 Callan Ward 103… Read more »

Post_MaSloane
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Post_MaSloane

Nice writeup Damo! Have had Heeney locked in to my team but worried that even when he plays a good game, doesn't score too many supercoach points? Could be too overpriced

Damo
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The types of players these forward types are, they'll be able to be bought cheaper later on. I'd rather start with a Walters or McLean in his place who are already fairly lowly priced.

Finnius
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Finnius

Wouldn't be my main concern – pumped out a couple of 130s last year.

Definitely will drop throughout the season though -> so the question is do you want to start with him or go with Devon Smith at 100k less who will probably average around the same give or take 2-3

Carl
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Carl

You think Devon will ave 100? Because that’s what I see Heeney getting

Carl
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Carl

69% TOG he’ll be fine. Although both Walters and Mclean are tempting me

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Ruck off out of that game.

Stars starting to shine
Looks like whitfield has sewn up the re bound defender/goto man role.
Tempting but is he the ole pre season flyer?

GloryDays90
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GloryDays90

I am considering.

Finnius
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Finnius

Not as a mid. I will pick him down back next year.

Patch
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Patch

Can you imagine him with defence eligibility? PHWOAR. That'd be delicious. Am considering him, but unlikely to fit into my structure

Canny
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Canny

Who rucked for Sydney if Darcy Cameron only played 63% TOG? And why on God's green earth did Dawson Simpson not dominate tonight??? Think I'm gonna have to make some serious manoeuvres to go with two set and forget rucks which isn't fun.
How much will Kurt Tippett be when he comes out of retirement? What kind of preseason has he done?

BrownlowBoy
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BrownlowBoy

Dean Towers did a bit.

Carl
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Carl

For what it’s worth I think tonight makes the Coniglio decision easier. Had 27 touches at 93%. 7 Marks, 10 score involvements. Decent kick to HB ratio. He’s never been a big contested possession getter. Short of kicking a goal that’s probably a 8-8.5/10 game for him. Only 1 tackle

He scored 95. We need him to be scoring 110 to be a top 10 mid. So he might make a bit of money and will probably score pretty well, but if he’s not top 10 you’re trading him out at some point.

Dann
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Dann

Over the last 3 seasons he’s averaged a touch under 50% contested possessions & a touch over 6 tackles a game.

He’ll go 105 with a solid chance to go even better, if he ends up your M8 that’s not going to cost you the comp that’s for sure.

Seeker
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Seeker

Spot on. I firmly plan to use Cogs as a steppingstone to a top 8 mid but he should give me the luxury of using him late to do so, or may end up my M8 too. There’s seriously too much upside to ignore

Patch
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Patch

Nailed it, Carl. Cogs has dropped off my list, unfortunately Whitfield has taken his place. Tag the major concern for Lachie but gosh he looks good.

Post_MaSloane
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Post_MaSloane

Rokay Scoobs, I don't like this mystery one bit!

gordo29
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gordo29

Someones a bit salty fanstasysupercoach hasn’t taken off. Think the guys do a great job with these match reviews, espically for people that can’t watch the matches like myself

johnno2908
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johnno2908

What happened to Fantasysupercoach. Cannot load the site?

dontblushbaby
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dontblushbaby

Same question,dunno,it has been down all week

Monty
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Monty

What a pity. FSC was an excellent read. Hopefully it reappears.

Dann
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Dann

You’re reading way too much into it & I like the avatars, Way too much complaining going on for a free site and free podcast.

Carl
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Carl

Amen

Northerner
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Northerner

Thanks Damien. Great write up. Agree with Lloyd that McVeigh is likely the key factor. Excellent laying out of the facts. Question for the community. Goes to structure. At present I’m tossing up between: 1. Going 2 on field cheap FWD rookies and having Armitage at M6, Brayshaw at M7 and one cheap rookie at M8. or 2. Dropping Armitage down to say Will Brodie or Paddy Dow and upgrading one of the FWD rookies to Christensen. I think Armitage could average 25pts more than say Brodie, and could be a chance of holding M8 or is last upgrade. But… Read more »

The Ranger
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The Ranger

I think there's plenty of us having that same problem Northerner.
Personally I've decided (for now) that as there's some good options in the mids and not much up front I'm trying to go pure GnR in the mids and only have one onfield rookie fwd.

Northerner
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Northerner

Thanks

INPieman
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INPieman

I really don't like the look of having Fritch & say a Ryan both onfiled. Maybe one but not both. Therefore Bundy at F5 looks a safer option to me. I've ditched Armo for that reason. Garlett not playing the other day means we are likely down another forward rookie anyway. Slim pickings up front

neil demons delight
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neil demons delight

gone the same way pies Even Fritsch could be dropped. At a minimum BUNDY to F5 If not F6

JohnDJ59
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JohnDJ59

Who the hell is Bundy

neil demons delight
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neil demons delight

Christiansen

JohnDJ59
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JohnDJ59

OK thanks Neil.I'm looking at MacPherson and D.Lloyd for F5 & F6 at the moment.

Carl
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Carl

What pieman said. As a saints fan I’m not convinced armo will ave over 95. Which will make you some $$ for sure but would rather have Dow / brayshaw ave 70ish and have more cash to spend up forward

Derek
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Derek

I look at players being either; 1) a keeper. 2) to make cash If you have enough good keepers and the cash makers are making cash, the points should come. Savage, Tuohy, Devon, Hanley, Mills, Armitage, Sicily types, are they keepers? Maybe, not saying they can’t be, but they are not money makers either. My son’s team is always filled with Midprice value players. Starts the year on fire but never gets to $12mil and ends the year with Westoff and Wingard types in his team and no trades after round 16. We need to be around $13mil value by… Read more »

Hank_SC
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Hank_SC

I used to think like that Derek when there were 20 trades, but now with the extra 10 trades I reckon there is 1-2 spots for a mid pricer to do a little bit of both;
*Start Conglio (example) for 450k averages 100 (fairly modest prediction) sell him for 550k (100k profit) for a fallen ultra premium also 550k.

SC_Kev7
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SC_Kev7

Russty_, mate, I’m sure Lek and Patch appreciate the feedback but you’re coming across as a bit rude. The avatars cost money and the time of a graphic designer. Patch, Lek, and Barron have ones as leaders of the JR crew, the rest of us have generic ones for now. Jock has x4 the Twitter followers of Lek and Patch… combined! Posting through his account is just an outreach thing. Posting articles under his name is the website being a jerk. Of course we want the writers getting the proper credit Love your passion, Russty_, maybe slide into Lek’s and… Read more »

Seeker
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Seeker

God Damn you’re a beautiful man Kev. Well said. Patch, Lek and Barron are doing a great job keeping the community together. People gotta realise that with Jock Higgo and Crouching retiring that the community has changed. The young guys are finding their way and want to do things their way so content, design and output will be different.

Stick fat everyone there is plenty to help us with our teams

paul
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paul

There are some good rookies in the back line this year. I don't like spending over 500 for a player in the back so I look for the best three options under 500 then two medium price players or rookies as the back line really only generates 600 max and if you can get 550 at the start that is good enough I feel.So everyone is going to have D5 Doeded and D6 Finlayson We are blessed with these two who I feel will be constant enough to make good money and both will start round one they are locked… Read more »

CheekyNandos7
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CheekyNandos7

Sounds like you've gone pretty fricken deep in the mid mate aha. How much cash have ya got left with all that spending??

paul
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paul

117.9 left to play with before round three .I have done heaps of homework this year and extremely happy with my starting team but i am going with Lycett as my R2.Giving me a very impressive mid and forward lines with a bit of money if i need to make a change before the price rise in round three.

gordo29
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gordo29

I like it Paul. At this stage there is money to be made in the backs and that is a unique backline. You aren’t following the pack and finishing in the 1000 to 10000 spots

paul
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paul

Yes i have evaluated it and the formula for making money is in the back line this year .The key is just not in the rookies tho but picking three good players who will be consistent as your anker.

Derek
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Derek

Is your real name One Touch Wonder?

paul
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paul

The one drop Wonder lol

The_Blacksheep
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The_Blacksheep

Papley was going to be my POD in the fwd line but after a score like this I am not so sure anymore..

Bells
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Bells

He did that first two games back last year then went quite well.
A real POD after this game no doubt.
I don't think you'll lose money on him, but will he move up enough?? Very hard to say.
He could steal plenty of midfield time this year – Horse recently said he would, and they won't be running Robinson and Rose either.
Shark move.

Starkingdom
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Starkingdom

Time to fill this league before randoms do.. SC Mad code# 358465.

CheekyNandos7
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CheekyNandos7

Asked this in the Melb/Saints write-up so sorry for repeating myself, but should I take Savage or Simmo at D3 and why? Cheers

SC_Kev7
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SC_Kev7

Consistency v ceiling, CN7. You’ll also be hoping Savage can manage a full season. Last year was regarded as his breakout year and Richo still had no problems dropping him. Savage carries a little bit of risk, but if the rest of your team is pretty safe give him a go

paul
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paul

Savage is on fire and moving well so i am taking the chance.Don't miss the boat boys.

Lekdog
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I think both have their drawbacks. Simmo will probably go 90+ each week, Savage could go 110-70-100-80 week by week. Up to you if you want a rollercoaster or not. Either way defence is very hard this year. I'm going Simmo but if I have any doubts after Sunday he's sadly gone

Hank_SC
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Hank_SC

Simmo easily.
Best case scenario is similar for both (100 Ave)
Worst case scenario for Simmo is 90 Ave, Savage is playing in the 2's.
Obviously worst case would be a season ending injury but for sake of argument you can't predict this, however fwiw you aren't much better around than Simmo when it comes to durability.

The Wizard
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The Wizard

F3: PETRACCA F;4 STEPHENSON M8:BRODIE F5: AHERN D:6 MURRAY
OR
F3: CHRISTENSEN F:4 RAYNER F:5 STEPHENSON M8: KELLY AND D:4: COFF

Thanks Community

Tibor
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Tibor

Of all the names you mention there could be a large number of combinations. Of all those names Petracca is a must have. The rest are all worthwhile picks….IMO

Tibor
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Tibor

Kreuzer and Redden. Or. Danger and Lycett. .???

SC_Kev7
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SC_Kev7

Danger + Lycett

Lekdog
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Danger and Lycett because not having Danger is a bad idea

Seeker
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Seeker

Great stuff Damo. Love the use of Jesse’s tweet regarding Lloyd. Post concussion he actually scored 92, 100, 98; pretty good scores. Then McVeigh returns and Lloyd proceeds to average 79.5 to then end of the season. This is the bigger issue masked by the concussion last year

TommyC99
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TommyC99

Which one please community? My premo backs are Laird and Hibberd, while my premo forwards are Heeney, Billings and Dev Smith

Howe/simmo D3 and Tracca F4

or

Sicily D3 and Greene/McLean F2 OR F3

Lekdog
Admin

B with McLean

SC_Kev7
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SC_Kev7

More like Deledi-no hahahahaha… I’ll see myself out

Lekdog
Admin

Very good by you

INPieman
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INPieman

Was he even playing?

Jordan
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Jordan

Pick two. Billings, Greene, Franklin

Bells
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Bells

Franklin plus either. Billings, cause you can't wish Toby well so….

Bells
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Bells

The Phantom followed me on Twitter.
Either they really like my 'new energy small cap mining explorer' focus, or they are doing it to anyone who liked a JR post in an effort to steal the community's viewers??
Sad.

Bells
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Bells

3 spots left in 'Jock's Jock League'. You'd want to be in the top 6000ish I guess. Though if you're a bit outside that jump on – I do want to make semis this year. 🙂
League code 283473

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

McLean or Heeney? Its doing my frigging head in. I am leaning towards McLean as he is nicely priced, poddish, and has FWD/MID status. What are others thinking?

Patch
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Patch

I've gone McLean for now TopHawk

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

If McLean produces another solid performance like he did in JLT1, he will be locked. Be watching him very closely against the pies shortly. Be good to have a look at Sam Murray, Jaidyn Stephenson, and Aaron Naughton again as well. We will find out a fair bit over the next couple of days with the last 6 JLT games being played. Cheers Patch.

Shake_n_Bake_
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Shake_n_Bake_

Both?

Troy
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Troy

McLean locked and key kicked down the drain. The most lockable forward this season imo. Carving up so far against the pies

Hugh C
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Hugh C

Should I be worried starting with Josh Kelly now that Mummy has retired? Only made the jump in scoring last year and played the majority of the year with Mummy. I know he scored well last night but Darcy Cameron is no world beater and I'm sure Dawson Simpson will come up against much fiercer competition throughout the year… Will this negatively impact Kelly to a great extent?

neil demons delight
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neil demons delight

I keep getting these articles 2 days later E.G. I received the (8 th.) today and the 10th Same last year Is it a computer problem.

hedski
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hedski

Just refresh the homepage each time you get on Neil, articles pop up at different times of the day.

neil demons delight
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neil demons delight

THX dion

Shake_n_Bake_
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Shake_n_Bake_

Even if you click on to home 1st then refresh.

PuntRoadRoar
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PuntRoadRoar

Speaking only for myself… it wouldn't matter if there wasn't even an avatar.
It's all about the detailed analysis and information provided.
Keep up the good work guys, IMO absolutely AWESOME write-ups.

goggle
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goggle

josh kelly or tom mitchell?? will both end the year in my team but dont know who to start with. thoughts

Troy
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Troy

Both. Niether of them will see a price drop.

Carl
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Carl

Can’t go wrong with either. Both super consistent and unlikely to drop far in price. Toss a coin.

For the record I have gone with Titch. Only because Kelly doesn’t have a good ruckman feeding him hitout’s all day now. Unlikely to affect his score heaps because he’s a gun….but that’s my reason. Good luck

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Harsh and not at all fair. This website is a great resource and I really appreciate everyone's input.

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Anyone prepared to jump on the Treloar train again? 70SC points at ht, but at 63% efficiency. Hmmmm. Murray putting his hand up for round 1. Nace

Carl
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Carl

104 SC with 20odd contested possessions, goal and a billion tackles. Same reason as last year…..DE. Today he went at 59% – PASS. Believe me from last year that won’t be the last time he’ll miss a few targets

Derek
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Derek

Is Cox an option for F5 with Lycett at R2? With DPP

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Or go a premium ruck and a rookie forward and save a trade?

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Although just saw a lovely mark from the big Cox. Might not be a bad call

INPieman
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INPieman

Think Cox will have some good games. Can take a grab. But you'll need to accept the rubbish scores he will dish out against strong teams

Shake_n_Bake_
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Shake_n_Bake_

Kicked 4 today!

Derek
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Derek

He is $300k. Will consider

INPieman
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INPieman

If you don't have Sam Murray in your team & onfield your not watching this game. Giz everywhere. Intercepting pill pig. DE needs some tidy up but other than that he's a jet

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Murray has just been LOCKED. My backline rookies are pretty close to being finalised. I may even move Sicily forward to create another slot due to the abundance of quality rooks down back. (Plenty of coin to be made here) My backline rookies Doedee, Finlayson, Naughton, Murray and either Coffield or O'Shea.

INPieman
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INPieman

Francis Watson for West Coast & Murphy for Adelaide are 2 more to keep an eye on. The rooks down back look good. Forward rooks atrocious

Shake_n_Bake_
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Shake_n_Bake_

Venables a chance?

Shake_n_Bake_
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Shake_n_Bake_

Hows Trealor 14 tackles 21 contested possies and a goal!

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

But only 104 sc points because of his awful de.

Shake_n_Bake_
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Shake_n_Bake_

Thats why l wont go there finished on 114.

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Oh dear, JJ has turned my head. What am I thinking..

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Fogarty. Lock. If named.

Defying_Madness
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Defying_Madness

The question is whether to put him at F6 or to get rid of Christensen for him to save cash.

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Dougal Howard. Awkwardly named and awkwardly priced, but looks an option.

Rabbits16
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Rabbits16

lacking in jerk off material?