PODCAST: LYCETT AND FORGET
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SCOTT LYCETT. The name on everyone’s lips. Kev wrote him up today and there is no doubt your R2 selection will make you and break you in season 2018.
Lekdog and Patch discuss Lycett and other West Coast selections alongside players from Richmond, St Kilda, Sydney and the Doggies.
They also have a gander at some of the JLT significant games from the week before.
They also announce the winner of the AFL team suit for our favourite POD that went up on Facebook!
How are your teams shaping up, community? What do you want to see next week now team reviews are through? Are you throwing yourself to the Dogs on Lycett?
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Apologies again for being late this week – Lek and I were both beset by a whole bunch of time constraints, technical difficulties and Other Life Things™.
Who would we rather – Cripps and 105k or Crouch and 33k?
Depends on what the 105k becomes. If it's just loose change, I'd wager Crouch will score more and thus (Higgo taught me that word) should be picked.
If the 100k turns a 350k defender into Heath Shaw, take Cripps.
Cripps has averaged over 100 once in his 4 years..all I remember about him having picked him probably 3 of those years is…disappointment.
He started 2015 as a 200k rookie and averaged 96, amazing return
The next year he was a solid premium mid at 107 with an insane 2nd half to the year
Last year was the only disappointment with his injuries limiting him to 15 games and a 25 in his last game pulling his average down.
You're selling him well short, he's a LOCK
Cripps biggest selling point is the round 12 bye. Crouch, Danger, Dusty, Fyfe all round 14.
Does that make Cripps a rd13 trade target then?
Does anyone else have doubts over dusty backing up his 119 average? Ik you are backing him lek but i am along the same thinking as patch. So many marking him in as a guaranteed top 8 mid but i am not sold. His one and only year averaging 110+ and i cant imagine richmond having another dream run like last year. Will his scores drop off this year? I think they may. So for me i will be leaving him out of the starting side and wait for byes to reasess
He always seems to drop off at some point in the season Kyle, I picked him up for sub 500k last year…I'm not starting with him, but definitely want to finish with him.
Everyone is always cheaper at some stage.
8 scores over 130 last year. Started with 159 against Carlton…
Like most he will be cheaper at some stage, but will you have the $, or will you have more pressing trade issues?
Might sound a bit one-eyed as a Richmond supporter, but I reckon he will. It's a different game in the pre-season, but once the real thing starts, watch the Tiger's midfielders look for him on the outside, or see Dusty go in 3 on 1 and sneak a handpass to a teammate (or go full Nelson Muntz, Wildcats style). He also played some amazing footy in the highest of pressure situations. He just plays footy, and like Danger, he looks a class above everyone out there. Watch him match or go better than 2017 this year.
Yes Kyle for a number of statistical reasons and no 'I reckon' reasons.
Armitage in the mids, Lycett and Forget… It's becoming Madman Moe's Pressure Cooker! (I like it!)
Armo in the mids isn't so madman, if he stays ambulatory, Lycett probably is though…he's just as injury prone as Nicnat and Vardy.
Sicily or Armitage?
Sicily is a keeper whereas Armitage is a stepping stone. It all depends on the structure of your team, however I would be leaning towards Sicily.
Sicily for mine.
Also VOTE 1 ZERRETT
Armitage or the Jaeger Bomb? Really what I'm asking is do you choose the guy with bung groins or the kid with knees that are shot to hell?
I’ve had JOM all preseason. After JLT2 I’m starting to think Armitage. Based on his numbers a couple of years ago. He has done it before, we are yet to see what JOM can do
I've had JOM all preseason but I'm starting to think I might go pure GnR in the mids
Did you not listen to my rant? NO. MID. PRICERS.
Except Armitage. But also not Armitage.
So I know that Lek has a full scale man crush on Cripps, as do I for the record even as a saints man. But will he get the 110ave needed to make him a top 10mid? I can see him getting low 100’s just don’t know about 110.
I think he might need this year and another pre season under his belt before he hits full beast mode Carl so I'm holding off for now.
Jeez he looks good tho…
I won't be having any Lyars in my team. Hehe get it?
Shuey to be tagged and Menegola to not have as much mid time.
If any of you guys are interested I've got some places left in my classic league. The code is 128042
Cash or casual?
Casual
If you miss 419891. It's casual fun. No cash. Ave 2000 plus preferred or 1-2 years experience
Not a fan of Lekdog sucking off the blues. Not giving the saints much credit although they were poor, will beat the blues during the year.
Armitage lock. Bont over Cripps too
… he's a blues supporter. I think his comments were tongue in cheek…
That’s the joke haha
What's the go on cash leagues guys? This must be the quietest period I've come across yet. There's usually someone who advertises for players. Are people losing interest?
I would be keen to enter as well, but cannot be bothered organising…
Thanks for the response guys. At least some people are keen. Most leagues must have organized early doors. It's probably gonna be a mad scramble from here on in.
I am also keen for a cash league.. put a post up a few weeks ago on a thread, but didn't get much traction……..
I was in one last year from this site, would be keen again.
Also would be in. Can’t be arsed holding the cash though
Nice Podcast lads. Plenty of relevance.
To Lycett or not? I have 2 teams, one with and one without.
It’s a big call & I can hear the fear in Lek & Patch today.
Shaw or Sicily into D4 if I take the punt, or roll back to Ryder & Naughton.
Here is the team with Lycett….
D: Yeo, Laird, Hibberd, Shaw, Doedee, Finlayson (Murphy, Mihocek);
M: Danger, Titch, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Cogs, Brodie, T.Kelly (Garlett, Holman, Barry);
R: Gawn, Lycett (Cameron);
F: Heeney, Billing’s, Smith, Christensen, Rioli (WC), Fritsch, (Ryan, Ahern).
I’m certain many of you have better starting teams but 2 questions based on this set up…..
1. Ryder & Naughton or Lycett & Shaw?
2. Brodie at M7 or LDU?
Thanks Community!
Brodie > LDU for sure either way.
I’m having a similar dilemma as well….to Lycett or not to Lycett that is the question!!
news in naninsmith ruptured his ACL at training hmmmmm
Sad for Naismith but it makea Cameron very relevant!
Watch his ownership percentage go off…
I guess we'll have to have a punt on Darcy Cameron on the bench. For old times sake just like last year..
Darcy Cameron just became very relevant as an R3 with Naismith going down. Having some cover at R3 possibly strengthens the case for Lycett, as your hand is not forced into an immediate double trade if he goes down.
Let's see if he's named round 1. In the last JLT game Towers was backing up
im going in without Lycett, at the moment Stef Martin and Maxy Gawn. Very easy to bring in Lycett if he impresses and Gawn goes down/Martin shares ruck
Sinclair has an ankle injury too…anyone know how bad it is?
Witherden or Shaw?
Shaw
I would go Witherden. Forget his turd game in the JLT, you know he can play.
Neither. Shaw too slow, Witherden awkward price.. if that’s your price range better options in Lloyd, Tuohy and Savage. I have none of these though … would rather have Sicily. If you have him already then Lloyd…
Would love you thoughts here.
Sicily/Lycett/Coniglio
OR
Sicily/Jack Graham/Stef Martin
OR
Coffield/Coniglio/Stef Martin (this option means Laird/Hibberd/Rampe only premiums in DEF.)
Option 3. Would be reviewing the rampe selection
Ryder & Naughton (D4) or
Lycett & Shaw (D4)
Who do you think will average more Ryder or Shaw and there's your answer
Thanks Gator, that’s a line ball call. They should run close 100 avg. The question ties my broader question on Lycett to boost D4, hope Lycett makes cash and upgrade to Ryder later (after his bye). See my earlier post further up this chain.
My take on your side is 3 premos down back .. 5 premos in mids strengthen the fwds and ditch lycett and get kruz in .. hope this helps you
Ok will have a play around. Kruz & Gawn going to drain cash. Might be tough call.
only way to go mate … you may think your losing a premo but in reality you will be gaining imho… who ever u pick will average around the same .. no need for upgrading and having nightmares over your ruck department
My fallback is Ryder not Kruz. That can work too.
Is Patch handing out tablets!!! What are you guys on to be even thinking about Shaw.
Ryder will outscore Shaw by more than 20 points. Ryder is Top 20 overall. Shaw wasn’t anywhere near the top 100 last year. Closer to 150 than 100.
Ok guys i'm opening up another league called…. Fish'n'Cripps …. This a private league… Just let me know your name, team name and where you finished last year and i'll review and consider who stays and who goes… Code is……486097…. this is my last and final league
In TEAM: FLAYD finished last year 811
Corron
OK Dovaas step right in and order some fish'n'cripps.. gl mate… btw a good finish from last year
Finished top 3000 last year. Regular in the 6000 finish. Closest was 600. Been a long time player for the last 7 years
well done luke.. welcum
Just joined Gator,
Team name is Scorpions FC, finished at 7k last year and 2.3k in 2016
good stuff Grayson .. gl mate
Thanks mate, you too
The benchmark 4500ish last year and got as high as 777 before a few risks at the end nailed me down the pecking order
well done Bencher .. GL Mate
Anyone else planning to start all of Mitchell, Dusty and Danger in their team?
Yep. And Fyfe
Hi Pieman jump into the Fish'n'Cripps League above if you want.. cheers mate
I'm not going for any of them. I think there are too many good value players in the midfield compared to the other lines. Hopefully Kelly and Fyfe will serve as good enough captains until I can get Danger at about round 6.
Yep ad Kelly.
And Fyfe.
Waste of money, too much cash generation available in mids and hardly any in def/fwd. Danger maybe, would love to see him in one match alongside GAJ.
As a Cats fan I'm hoping they try out do each other resulting in massive scores all year.
Nope, just Danger and Titch.
chasing some advice please
MID option 1 : 5 uber premiums & 3 rookies like dow, brayshaw and banfield
MID Option 2: 5 premiums, coniglio & brayshaw + banfield
really want option 1 to work for the $$ to spend elsewhere but love the coniglio pick for points.
I would go option one as I back the mid rookies more than any others
If you’re picking Coniglio you’re banking he’ll go 110ave and therefore be a top10 mid. Otherwise it’s pointless because you’ll have to trade him out. So option 1, as finnius said there are plenty of good mid rookies this year
Probably the safest rendition of my team so far. Most likely the smartest way to start my team, but I keep getting awful mid-priced thoughts in my head.
Any thoughts so far?
B: Laird, Hibberd, Lloyd, Coffield, Doedee, Finlayson (Murray, Mirra)
M: Danger, Mitchell, Crouch, Merrett, Fyfe, Coniglio, Dow, Banfield (Kelly, Garlett, Holman)
F: Heeney, Billings, McLean, Stephenson, Ahern, Fritsch (Ballendan, Ryan)
58k left
rucks?
R: Kreuzer, Gawn (Cameron)
Thanks for picking up the slack fella's. Keep up the great work
Thanks mate
Cripps and Dusty or Clayton and Crouch?
All 4…go on..you know you want to
clayon and crouch, dusty will drop at some time similar to last year pick him up then
Def Cripps and Dusty.
Nanscrevis locked after tonight. Looks to be going to another level. 100+ ave and undervalued.
13 contested possessions, 7 tackles, 21 disposals, 132 SC points..pretty darned good mate.
Underpriced, will he be top 5 ruckmen though?
Supercoach Team of the Week:
Def: Rampe, Savage, Hibberd, Marchbank, Langdon, Shaw
Mid: Redden, Fyfe, Shuey, Gaff, Coniglio, Steven, Neal-Bullen, JP Kennedy
Ruck: Gawn, Martin
Fwd: Franklin, Caddy, Melksham, D. Smith, Lynch (GC), Harmes
Total Score: 2903
Danger will score 193 jus sayin
Is anyone else considering Nank this year? Could be a POD
Prefer Stef for similar price, likely to ave 10 points per game more.
DEF: Laird, Hibberd, Simpson, Coffield, Naugton, Finlayson (Doedee, Watson)
MID: Danger, Titch, Kelly, Fyfe, Shuey, Armitage, A.Brayshaw, Banfield (Kelly, Holman, Barry)
RUC: Martin, Gawn (Olango)
FWD: Buddy, Walters, D.Smith, Sicily, Stephenson, Fritsch (Ryan, Ahern)
Any feed back would be appreciated, still very tempted to take lycett at R2, push sicily down back and grab someone like toby mclean up forward.
Excuse me for repeating myself but I like the look of my own voice.
What is the advice that you are giving on Lycett?
Are you suggesting that an average of 80 for 12-weeks is good enough for our R2? Or are you suggesting that we should pay 277k for our R3 so that we can make 150K over 12-weeks?
Are you guys on crack?
People are suggesting Lycett for R2 and Cameron for R3. The idea that Lycett has ave 80 before and Is a chance to improve that as a sole ruckman
He's averaged a lot injuries before to Carl, they have another bloke at the eagles who can ruck Nack Knitanewy or something. He's only a little bit broken atmo should be fixed soon surely not more than 8-weeks from now. The of course they also have Mcinnes and that Mcgovern bloke so, if you think Lycett will ever be sole ruck you're all on crack.
We don't think Lycett will be a sole ruck all season. Only for 5-9 weeks hopefully. We want him to go up a bit in cash, whilst also ideally scoring around that 80-90 mark. As soon as Ryder's bye is over bam.
Def – Laird, P.Hanley, Hibberd (Melb), O'Shea, Keefe , Doedee (Murray, Cummins)
Mid – Titch, Danger, Fyfe, THE Zorko,J Kelly, Ahern, Dow, Holman (Barry, Worpel, T Kelly)
Rucks – Gawn,Sandilands (Cameron)
Fwd – Heeney, J Kennedy, Smith, Barlow, Higgins , Rioli (Ryan, Fritsch)
Anyone reckon Kruuezer will back up 2017 and finish top 2? My current structure is banking on him to do it. If people think he won't who do you think top 2 will be?
Can't believe he is not more heavily selected. Keep it on the low-down….
Some discussions on forward options please. Is Buddy a better option than Heeney? Are Devon Smith or Toby McLean really solid F3 options? Thoughts on Toby Greene being a top 5 forward by average by season's end?
I would say Buddy would score more than Heeney, but it will be a rollercoaster of ups and downs. I think you could do a lot worse than Smith and McLean, I'd say they'd be good for a 90 average. Toby Greene may be top 5 forwards, but surely you wouldn't ruin the integrity of your team by selecting such a flog
Thoughts Anyone, i'm fairly settled my main concern is FWD but need to confirm which rookies will play in Rnd1
Def – Laird, Hibberd (Melb), Sicily, Marchbank, Naughton, Doedee (Murray, Mirra)
Mid – Martin, Titch, Fyfe, THE Bont, Cripps, Heeney, Libba, Brayshaw(Freo) (Barry, J Garlett, Holman)
Rucks – Gawn,Sauce (Hayes)
Fwd – Dahlhaus, Lobb, Stringer, Fogarty, Higgins, Ahern (Ryan, Fritsch)
FWD line may be shaky this season. I recommend perhaps starting Sicily there instead and invest in another defender rookie like Finlayson.
Thanks Dude. good point.
Pretty happy with my team at its current.
Thoughts / Opinions
DEF: Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Shaw, Doedee, Murray (Keefe, Mirra)
MID: Danger, Titch, Oliver, Crouch, Fyfe, Brayshaw (Freo), Dow, Banfield (Garlett, Kelly, Holman)
RUCK: Martin, Gawn (Olango)
FWD: Heeney, Walters, McLean, Christensen, Ahern, Rioli (Dear, Ryan)
Still not sold on McLean. Was Dalhaus about 5mins ago. Stuggling with that 3rd FWD choice.
30k remaining
I'd trade Mclean into Sicily and use the cash to turn one of Shaw or Savage into Hibberd/Yeo
Devon smith f3?
Yeah it's McLean v Smith v Petracca ATM..
I've sided with you and gone Mclean, think he will get alot of mid time as the others rotate forward, look at his natural progression from his first 3 years, only needs another 10% and he's a top 10 fwd. Also have D.Smith based on his role. Petracca a bit overated IMO
Hi community, I’ve seen a lot of you guys select some cheap rookies for your bench and in an ideal world, the cheaper the better if they play. What gives u the confidence they will play though? I’ve seen Doedoe, Fritsch etc. I’m more inclined to pay a bit more and get Alir Alir for example because I’m confident he will play most games and is an expensive rookie price. Would love to get everyone’s thoughts
Cheap rookies will make cash faster. Helps get to full premium faster
A $123k rookie who scores 60, will go up in price a lot more than a $190k rookie who scores 60. A lot more.
Alir Alir injured isn't he?
I think it is the year of the high priced rookie Jimmy. Lots of options in the 150-200 bracket. Might be worth checking out Naughton and Coffield before Alir if you haven’t already.
Yeah already have them both and needed another one. Also going with Byrne from the blues
Definitely a year to think outside the box. I don’t mind Byrne. Was in pretty good form before he did his knee and seemed to be able to find the ball. Food for thought.
Jeremy Cameron
As a legitimate pod? 😂😂😂
That is me officially out. I tried to stay on but jock had thought me enough to leave this community 'new'
Farewell
Liking the podcasts fellas! Can we discuss Degoey? If he keeps his nose clean, surely a top 6 contender. Played very well at the end of last season and will get more time in the mids. Lock in my team of starts round 1
Hamstrung!
😢
Am I Crazy?
Forward Line
Walters, Pertracca, Caddy, D.Smith, Ahern, Ryan,
Garlett, Poholke
That might be a serious case of MM.
I don’t mind the occasional midpricer, but I much prefer the Fallen Premium type midpricer than the Gut-feeling one.
Was Walters ever “premium”?
Hi Corey, just say no to Caddy mate..he's too up and down..mostly down.
I'd punt Ahern too, Fritsch might be a better option.
Thanks👍🏻
Not crazy corey somebody has to lose
The more I change my team, the more Guns n rookie it is becoming.
Only have 2 midpricers in team, Shaw D3 and Devon F4. Although Some would argue they are both premiums!
JOM and Armitage, Barlow, Coniglio and Lycett are other Midpricers who have been in and out of my team.
I’ve not had a good history with Midpricers unless they have been true Fallen Premium. Shaw fits that category well. Armitage and Coniglio are close to fallen premiums and should be considered at their prices. Devon I’m not sure about, he is a popular pick but yet to reach a premium status. If a good rookie option appears in the forward line he could make way for Armitage or Coniglio in the guts.
Ryder still there but the Round 10 bye still hurts my head. Cox at F5 might be a solution with a DPP at R3.
Current Team.
Laird, Lloyd, Shaw, Coffied, Doedee, Finlayson. (Mirra, Mihocek)
Dangerfield, Dusty, Fyfe, TMitch, MCrouch, Brayshaw, Barry, Banfield (Kelly, Spargo, Holman)
Ryder, Gawn (Cameron)
Franklin, Heeney, Billings, Devon Smith, Christensen, Venables (Ryan, Garlett)
Big call with Ryder. Nice forward line – how sold on Devon Smith are you? Personally I love going big (6 premos) in the midfield because I know that is where the points come from but I like how you have 5 great premo mids.
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Not a big fan of Devon. Liked a few games he played at GWS last year but then would go missing.
Hey Derek, I like your squad, Petracca might be one to consider over Smith or even Heeney, Trac could have a big year, and he's not returning from anything bad, like injuries or bad form, looks like he's getting into his stride.
Guns n Rookies or Midpriced madness can both end up flopping, the rookies have to play if you have a bunch of em..and score decently. I like a good balance somewhere in between GNR and Midpriced madness lol
Mirra being 'rested' this week, not sure what that means.
Will Barry, Banfield, Spargo, Venables and Garlett start round 1?…not sure, Garlett is injured, don't know much about the others.
we all know that the rookies change everything.
Fritsch is looking very good, hopefully he gets named round 1 to lessen the lack of rookies in the forward line
I think he will DM, he's done enough I think.
Love playing sc but live in Sydney as a Collingwood supporter I’m on my pat interested in joining a league with people who share my enthusiasm..been playing for 4 years improving each year best finish 12000’s would love a start
Greene + T Mitchell or Papley + Danger ???
Find a way to get Greene and Danger if you are keen on Greene, expect a few suspensions during the season though.
Oliver + Hogan or Fyfe + Petracca ???
Fyfe and Petracca
Agree with BB, Fyfe is cheap and Petracca's been everywhere in this game, looking like a great pick.
Yeo, Laird, Lloyd, Naughton, Dooday, Finlayson,Mihochek ,Mirra
Danger, Dusty, TMitch, Kelly, Fyfe, Armo, Banfield, T.Kelly, Holman, Dow, Barry
Gawn, Simpson, Cameron
Heeney, Greene, Barlow, Smith, Christensen ,Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
Would love to have Coniglio, JOM, Hanley in my team, still might
12 keepers IMO, obviously everything is subject to change
Tracca was good tonight, 104 SC points with 15 CP's , not in my current team ,but might be
What is everyone’s thoughts on Dawson as R2?
If plays Round 1 I’d pick him ahead of Lycett who has Vardy and NicNat to compete with
Even with Lobb due back in the first few rounds?
Simpson looks like a ruck. Big strong and slow.
Lobb looks like he will struggle with the weekly battle in the ruck.
Could be Simpson gets first crack, with a midfield like GWS even i’d Manage a few hits to advantage, I can see him doing ok and holding the first ruck spot.
Lycett will be second behind NicNat
Nice podcast fellas.
Has NicNat had another setback? I thought he's due back in early rounds and Lycett surely goes out. Plan totally destroyed.