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PODCAST: ALL HAIL THE PEOPLE’S BEARD

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FYFE IS LYFE. IS GAWN, IS GOOD.

We are simple people, Lekdog and I. We see a good footballer, we select them. Nathaniel Fyfe and Maxwell Gawn are good footballers, and you’re stark raving mad if you don’t select both of these beautiful bastards in your sides for 2018.

There’s a hell of a lot to cram in, and we show we have no ability to know what clocks are or that we know how to stop doing the talking thing with our mouth holes.

Fortunately we say some relevant things and some funny things (well, like two funny things) on our quest to analyse all of the options for 2018 – this week we unpack what piqued our interest in the first four JLT games before diving in and having a look at the fantasy relevance from GWS, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North Melbourne and Port Adelaide.

Thanks to Fantasy Insider for sponsoring the Podcast and ensuring this beautiful website can continue to be a thing, and as always the intro theme (which is about to have a renovation, we know it’s too long and tacky) has sounds in it which come from https://www.bensound.com under Creative Commons.

What do you reckon, Community? Let us know what’s happening in those big old brains of yours.


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Patch

Special shoutout to Lekdog's crickets which are hanging out outside his flapping tarp, providing some background tunes which I didn't pick up until I started editing. I will be setting his garden on fire during the week to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Lekdog

I'm moving the hell away from these hills on Friday

Russty_

Fantasy Insider ay?…Go Premium for only $39.95 a month, for research you can easily do yourself, no thanks.

neil.Demons Delight

Is it really Russty Way too expensive mate

Dangerwoodlett

On ya patch/lekdog good cast fellas.

What are your thoughts on mitch Robinson as a bit of a pod in the fwd line. Rocky has moved on maybe a sneaky chance as a strong body around the ball. Maybe a licence to attack the ball instead of the man.

Just a thought.

All the best

Patch

Cheers mate!

Spoke about him in our first pod – one to keep on the watchlist but need to see him play first.

Dangerwoodlett

Cheers

Post_MaSloane

You would have to rely on him being a key cog in the engine room, because playing even 50% of the game in the forward line could spell bad news. I can't see lions being much better this year than last year

Dangerwoodlett

Very true. Hmmmm fwd line is really giving me the shits

Post_MaSloane

Maybe a changing of the guard is in order at Windy hill? #freejacko

Lekdog

a) Greatest name going around B) #FREEJACKO

gator59

Geez Patch sounds so much like Gerard Whatley.. Great stuff fellas keep it up

Lekdog

People keep saying that! Classic!

TheGreatBozza

I'd love some feed back. First team post JLT series

Big Baller Zone
DEF: Laird, Hibberd, Maynard, O'Shea, Doedee, Richards (Murray, Finlayson)
MID: Dangerfield, Martin, Fyfe, Beams, Cripps, Coniglio, Redden, Brayshaw (Ahern, Kelly, Barry)
R: Gawn, Lycett (English)
FWD: Heeney, D.Smith, Sicily, Christensen, Dawson, Ryan (Waterman, Garlett)

$247k bank at the moment.

This is still very rough. I'm looking at removing Redden for a rook and getting a 3rd premo DEF. Don't trust the premo FWD's thus far, so I'll pick them up throughout the year.

The Ranger

Lot of injury risk Bozza.
Beams, Cripps, Cogs, Lycett, Smith, Christensen.

TheGreatBozza

I like playing with fire. In all seriousness Cogs is the one I’ve locked in for sure. I think Beams can be a top 10 mid, injuries permitting of course. The other names will float in and out of my team based on who looks the good entering round 1. I think there’s some value that’s required around the grounds to allow us to have the uber premo more (Dusty, Kelly, Danger, Titch, Crouch etc) and premo defenders

Post_MaSloane

Can't see Redden being a top tier midfielder. If I had to take one of the 3 WCE midfielders it would probably be Shuey.
What are your thoughts on Maynard? Seen him in a few teams but can't see him breaking out unless he gets the fabled 'midfield minutes'

TheGreatBozza

Chances are I will drop Redden by the time round 1 rolls around, and use the cash to get another premo DEF.

In regards to Maynard, I’m slightly biased as a Collingwood supporter and I can see him rolling through the middle. I’d hope for a 90 odd average for his price

D_I_L_D_O_R

Would love to see some actual evidence presented on the podcast rather than every bloke thats half decent being a "lock". Your teams must be 45 players with a 50mil salary.

D_I_L_D_O_R

*Edit: Not saying you haven't done the research, i'd just love to hear some more of it.

Richard

Seems as though Jock is still around the twittersphere.Crouching gone ? What about Higgo the sensible one . Any chance of coaxing him
back to the Podcast and why has he disappeared ? I don't think any explanation was given.

Lekdog

Oh I'm trying Richard, I'm bloody trying haha

Heaps Dinkum

Thanks for the shoutout guys. For listeners interested in what exactly the prize the guys mentioned at the end of the podcast is, head to https://www.heapsdinkum.com.au/products/footy-col….

TommyC99

Hey guys, thoughts on my team please? Got 137k in the bank which is a bit more than i would like, but im really not sure what to spend it on. Rookies obviously subject to change. I can do Jacobs — Lycett and Naughton — Lloyd with 73k left over. Thoughts on that?

Def: Hibberd, Laird, Simpson Naughton, Doedee, Findlayson (Murray, Mirra)
Mid: Danger, Titch, Oliver, Fyfe, Pendles, JOM, LDU, Barry, (Holman, Ahern, Kelly)
Ruc: Gawn, Jacobs (Hayes)
Fwd: Heeney, Billings, Smith, Christensen, Stephenson, Ryan (Garlett, W Rioli )

WYatt

Oliver Pendles could be real PODS

Post_MaSloane

I highly doubt Oliver will be a pod

D_I_L_D_O_R

6% ownership

Russty_

Hey Tommy, pretty solid side mate, maybe consider chucking Dow in the mids instead of Barry or Ahern, that should lessen your leftover cash a bit 🙂
Not too sure on LDU at the moment either, see how he goes in his next JLT game.

TommyC99

Cheers Russty!

The Ranger

Nice team Tommy.
Nothing wrong with having a bit of cash left.
If all goes well it means you might get to paint the fence earlier than anyone else.

TommyC99

Cheers Ranger!

The wizard

Hey Guys, Are we all writing off Scott Pendlebury? Seriously considering him as my 6th mid, at his best, you cannot be more consistent…..

Derek

all his numbers were down last year, especially contested possessions. If they continue in that direction he is finished.

if you think it was his thumb injury that caused his 2017 decline and you think he is over that, jump on.

If he plays every week, his average won't be too far away from the top 8.

Steeeve

Locked in my team. Hopefully a pod!

Osei O

Neale, Pendlebury, Sloane or Bont

WYatt

Neale

Post_MaSloane

Sloane for me. Last 4 games of last year showed that he may be learning to shake the tag and his ceiling is huge
Pendelbury has always been super consistent but seems to be on a downwards trajectory, I had Bont last year and he's on my never again list
Rate Neale highly though

Osei O

i already have crouch, is there room for both in one midfield?

Post_MaSloane

They both averaged 111 last year, would say there's plenty of points to go around

Derek

of that lot. i'd have Sloane a breath in front of Neale, probably only because i like the Crows draw better.

The Ranger

After looking at the fixture Sloane is pretty appealing…

Finnius

I'd be going neale

Big G

Sloane Dog

WYatt

Sandilands or not
Zorko or not
J Kennedy WCE or not

ToughBrett

Not
Zorko
Not

Finnius

No, potentially although more consistent options at his price and No

Howey

No ,yes , no IMO

Derek

who are the teams to avoid this year for players who are good at tagging.

I know North have a bloke who is pretty good. what other teams are there?

Osei O

Levi will do a few jobs for the pies

BrownlowBoy

Hutchings, Scooter Selwood?

D_I_L_D_O_R

Prestia/Graham have been successful for Richmond

Jason

Howe

neil.Demons Delight

Tommy Bugg

Kylie

Robbo at the lions maybe

Jordan

Best midfield pick under 558k? I know there’s cripps but are there any other good options?

Osei O

Luke parker

Derek

Beams is $557k, he is almost top 8.

Danners

Shuey looks like he could step it up this year. Good JLT 1, surely will have a bigger role in the West Coast midfield

Randimcliche

Cogs

Canny

Jack Redden has averaged over 100 in 3 seasons in the past, so he's somewhat "proven". He's at the good age of 27, I'm seeing good signs with him. I'm so sure he'll burn me though. I hate this game.

Derek

I really would like a WCE midfielder, massive hole there. Is there any one cheaper who will be in the guts?

gator59

They reckon Ahcoo will roll through the midfield at times

The Ranger

Had him on the watchlist Gator but he;'s still on crutches after getting injured against Port.

The BONT

Does anyone think DANGER is worth the $750K ?

GloryDays90

Over 30 percent of Supercoach players do

Finnius

You are crazy if you don't pick him – permacaptain every week and wayy too much to lose when he goes 160 two weeks in a row and your opponents both have him

BrownlowBoy

Lock. As Derek says, pay the price

Derek

if You don’t start with him, thinking he will get cheaper, you can’t control when you get him. What if he drops in price early? You won’t have cash to upgrade so you have to sideways trade, waste of trade, plus if you do side trade, you are probably get rid of someone who has dropped in price as well, undoing the advantage you get from getting Danger cheaper.

Rick Grimes

Worth every cent. Just can't risk going without. Will probably pull out 180 first round if you don t.

The Far Canal

Think I'll take that chance. Obviously he's going to score more than pretty much everyone (barring an unforseen stuff up), but that money is too much, and therefore not worth every cent at all. Those additional $$$ are more valuable used elsewhere.

Danners

No, will wait and see and save the $100k

Randomcliche

Easy. Yes. Danger plus rookie 200p, 875k. It's actually difficult to achieve that expected points per game with midpriced madness.

Russty_

Of course he's worth it…are you crazy or some shit? 🙂

John

Is De Guioy worth the risk?

Finnius

He is suspended indefinitely…. I don't like his chances of putting up a huge round one score.

Russty_

Hey John, he lied about injuring his hand whilst throwing a frisbee to a Dog, when he really was in a drunken Bar fight, then he got caught drink driving.
So, he's not really worth much I'd say, he has alcohol problems and he's still only a very young man.
Avoid..as he could be heading down the Harley Bennell road.

WYatt

3 Forwards 6 Mids Premo ones that is or 5 Mids and 4 Forwards

Post_MaSloane

Would depend on who the premos are and the rest of your team

StevoRivo

I think 5 and 4 works better. Better rookie options in the mids.

Captain Risky

It will all depend on where the rookies are! At the moment most options look good on the screen, but come round one you want to have a plan B..C…
I'm trying to go 6 premo mids, probably 4 forwards as to me fwd rookies are looking scarce but who knows… In 3 weeks all will be revealed 🙂 then the real panic begins

StevoRivo

Team change number 246…

Adding in an extra premo to give it more balance. Any feedback welcomed…

D: Yeo, Laird, Hibberd, Shaw, Richards, Doedee (Murray, Morgan);
M: Danger, Dusty, Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, LDU, Higgins, Barry (Kelly, Spargo, Worpell);
R: Ryder, Gawn (Cameron);
F: Heeney, Lambert, Smith, Christensen, Dawson, Garlett (Ryan, McCartin (Syd).

StevoRivo

Thoughts on the above team please?

Only $8k left and Lambert is my “wildcard” 🐑

Derek

Problem right now are the rookies. I can only count 2 rookies in your team who are more than likely to play round 1.

I would go Shaw to Mirra and have a war chest when teams are announced, might need to spend up on the rookies this year.

The Ranger

Not bad Stevo but personally I think you need to have a much bigger bank at the start of the season.
Somewhere between 50-100K enables you to jump onto the right rookies as they appear over the first few rounds.
e.g. you don't have A.Brayshaw who is 198K. If he comes out with a 102 and 81 in the first two rounds whilst Spargo hasn't got a game you want the cash to be able get him in before his price jumps.
It doesn't always work out and not everyone does it but it's worked well for me in the past.

StevoRivo

Ok so modification 247. Better balanced with better rookies though still tight on cash….

Shaw down to Bonner
Lambert to Walters
Higgins to Graham
Worpell to Brayshaw
Morgan to Murphy
McCartin to Fritsch

natopatato

chill with the simpsons samples

Steeeve

Worst. Comment. Ever.

Rick Grimes

Suggestions:

Laird, Simpson, Houli, Bowes, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie

Danger, Martin, Titch, Crouch, Fyfe, Cripps, Brodie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie

Sauce, Gawn, rookie

Heeney, Dahlhaus, Petracca, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie

If there is a chance I can run a rookie/cheap ruck I'll pump an extra premi into the forward line.

Post_MaSloane

Is this team affordable? Seems really expensive

Rick Grimes

It is.

The Ranger

Bowes eh? Nice sneaky POD Rick..
He did look good last year, be a nice one if it comes off.

Derek

interesting

Jason

GREAT PODCAST FELLAS!!!! P.s. Will the no name trolls stop saying the podcast unbearable I think it's the same person using different names and thumbs upon getting each other's comments. Great Job LEK and PATCH have listened to each podcast so far and great in depth analysis of each team. I like the Simpsons references as I grew up with them.

Rick Grimes

Agree. Can't be easy and they deserve respect. If you don't like it, don't listen.

Lekdog

Thanks mate, appreciate it. Everyone entitled to an opinion and if they all want to run their own podcast and website they're welcome too haha

Jason

Ok

gator59

Hi Rick, Derek and BB would you like to join this league please,, Oceans 14.. code… 262945

BrownlowBoy

Cheers, I'm in.

Derek

Thanks gator

gator59

Thanks guys

Wally Brando

Parker or Treloar?

Steeeve

Both could be top 8 mids, but the safe bet is they will not be. So I'll avoid

Finnius

too risky for mine

Rick Grimes

If Treloar improves his disposal He'll be a gun. Big IF tho.

Jordan

Titch or dusty? Titch better for my bye round stricture as I already have 4 miss from the round 14 bye. But if I don’t start with dusty I have no Richmond players and two hawthorn players. I know that doesn’t matter but it’s just OCD I like a nice spread of players in my team.

StevoRivo

Get both of you can, even if it means throwing in an extra Rookie.

Ben

Christensen vs Raynar??

Russty_

Whichever one's named in round 1.

Derek

I’d be worried about any Lions who play in their forward line this year.

Where will Christensen play?

Danners

I'm more thinking where will Rayner play, will he play?

Bells

Any Freo fans around to explain if B Banfield is going to play ahead of Cerra and Brayshaw? Surely they want games into their top 2 picks…

leedy

I wouldn't think he would get a game ahead of Brayshaw. Haven't seen Cerra yet. They have two games (a scratch match – that no one can attend) and a JLT both against WCE over the next two weeks. I imagine if he plays as he did against Adelaide he would put himself front and centre for selection. Was fairest and Best for Claremont in the WAFL last year and his stats for that season are here "http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/5937". Pretty impressive and also averaged 5-6 tackles a game.

BrownlowBoy

Think he may play small forward maybe? Could force Ballantyne/Matera to pull their fingers out otherwise Banfield could slot in there.

Finnius

Ballantyne in trouble

Luke

Ross Lyon Factor. Can't forget old Ross the boss. He hates us supercoachers. In saying that Banfield is on my bench

WYatt

Neale Fyfe Blakely Banfield how many of them should i have

SamBoga

All 3

Pitch72

Beware of FURL!!

Finnius

And Brayshaw…..

Wouldn't touch blakely with a 20 ft barge pole although a few others don't agree. Its tough being the 3rd/4th string midfielder in any side and still maintaining a 105+ average which you would want from him. At his price I would even need to see him be a keeper, which for me is 108+ in the midfield, and I just can't see that out of him especially with those others ahead of him.

Not too many qualms about neale and fyfe as they are both jets and slightly different players. Banfield is more of a forward and Brayshaw is their gun out of the draft. Would really not be tooo worried picking all those 4 – although if they do get thrashed one game you may get hit hard so it is a good thing to keep in mind.

Conversely of course if one of them has a bad day the others will probably compensate… so it may work OK.

In the end of course it is up to you 🙂

WYatt

Is Barlow good pick

ZerrettForPM

A risky one. He also has the round 10 bye. Wait and see how he hold up in the JLT if named.

Derek

He is a good pick.

Huge hole has been left in Suns midfield and plenty of SC points to be picked up by someone.

Barlow must be in line to get a few of them points. Hanley as well. I have an aweful feeling Hall will be the big winner.

Barlow is currently my F3 but could easy become Devon.

Captain Risky

Lachy Weller ?

The Ranger

I think the games has gone past him. A bit like what happened to Jobe Watson last year.

Derek

Barlow will be pure midfield. that is a big box ticked for a forward listed player

The Ranger

Not convinced he will Derek. He's too slow.
He's on the watchlist and I'll be watching the JLT but I have him behind Smith for F3 at the moment.

Rick Grimes

Yep, has been in and out of my team. Body is the issue. And bye.

Cam_H

If he's a keeper, then the bye will help – as apposed to the Round 14 bye dung spray … no?

StevoRivo

Thoughts on Lambert 🐑 at F2?

Rick Grimes

Bit light I feel. He's a POD pick at f3, at best, imo.

StevoRivo

Cheers Rick. What about Walters?

Rick Grimes

Walters I'm more keen on. Gonna be important for them and can rack up huge scores. But consistently is potentially an issue.

Bryce

RDT

Def – Laird, Simpson, Hibberd (Melb), Sicily, Pearce, Doedee (Murray, Mirra)

Mid – Titch, Zerrett/Danger, Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe, Conigs, Dow, Brayshaw (Barry, Worpel, Kelly)

Rucks – Big Ben, Gawn (Cameron)

Fwd – McLean, Smith, Robinson, Christensen, Keeffe, Rioli (Ryan, Fritsch)

$28,200 (Zerrett) or $4,500 (Danger) remaining.

Pick it apart fellas but pls explain your reasons 🙂

Bryce

Or can have

Big Ben to Lycett and this midfield

Titch, Danger, Zerrett, Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe, Bradshaw etc

Finnius

Go Zerrett to Danger and Coniglio to Brodie/LDU/another rookie and bring barry onfield and then pocket the spare cash.

You can't go without Dangerfield and you need to utilize the good rookies in the midfield more – I personally don't understand the Coniglio selection as he needs to average 110 to be a good selection and he is a good 5 points off that at his peak.

Derek

I would pick Coniglio ahead of a Parker, Cripps, Rocky, or anyone else in that under $550k level.

Can’t see anyone in that group finishing in top 8, so anyone you select will need an upgrade at some point.

I put Coniglio in that group as well, will score similar, so why not save $100k?

If you are going a Parker, Beams, Cripps type because you think they are (really) a top 8 mid, I agree, get them over Coniglio.

Derek

Before you ask.

Danger, Dusty, Fyfe, Ablett*, TMitch, Merrett, MCrouch, Oliver, are my top 8 mids.

* Gaz will be for ave but won’t play 21 games.

Brandon

So on total points Derek who replaces Ablett? Kelly perhaps?

Derek

yeah, it would between Kelly, Zorko, Sloane or Neale.

Finnius

My point is don't go any of them as I don't think that any of them will be top 8, 10 or even 15…. Save yourself the cash and get a rookie or just go all out and get an uberpremo… we have so many good 600k+ options this year there is no point fluffing around with the guys who may or may not cut it

Derek

Check your maths. I think Danger is more than $24k more than Merrett.

SamBoga

Def: M. Hibberd, K. Simpson, J. Lloyd, N. Coffield(Mid), A. Naughton, T. Doedee
Bench: L. Keeffe(FWD), D. Mirra

MID: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, T. Mitchell, D. Zorko, M. Crouch, N. Fyfe, D. Armitage, B. Banfield
BENCH: J. Garlett(Fwd), D. Barry, A. Styles(Def)

RUC : M. Gawn, S. McKernan(Fwd)
BENCH: T. Olango

FWD: I. Heeney9Mid), J. Billings, C. Curnow, A. Christensen, J. Higgins, B. Fritsch
BENCH: C. Ballenden(Def) , J. Brown(Mid)

The Ranger

McKernan? Really? Brave call.

SamBoga

Taking a punt on him. also putting that money in Mid with 6 premo.

Nat was on the news for not being 100%
Paddy has bye round early
Jacobs, Brodie, Stefan and goldie i am not too sold on them to sacrifice any Premo from mid…
Chasing points early in the season coz its always hard to catch up later in the season..

I may be tripping but I know i will change my team like 20 times before the season starts.

The Ranger

Haha ha..won't we all mate?!
I've still got Ryder at the moment but that bye is killing me….

SamBoga

I will upgrade my ruck after Port's bye round.. get paddy in to cover the other 3 bye round.

All strategy looks good before the season but some unexpected events will screw everything up and we start with clean slate every round.. its a mindf**k

Finnius

One good JLT match isn't really much to go off – wayyyy too risky for mine

SamBoga

Lycett (if Nat does his knee again) is another option but doesn't have DPP

Luke

Higgins won't play for the Tigers early on if at all this season. I'm a tigers fan and Shai Bolton will play for Dan Rioli's spot since he's recovering from ankle surgery. Garthwaite a chance to be named ahead of Conca, Miles

SamBoga

Thanks mate.. Will consider this. Higgins is in the top 10 most picked rookie..

The Ranger

Unless there's a glut of good rookies to choose from I might keep Higgins as my M11/F8.
I can loophole him in the early rounds where possible and wait for him to play later in the year.

Luke

My gut is he won't play. Jack Higgins will be a great player similar in the mould of Brent Harvey. I think the Tiges will let him get some form in the VFL this season as they like to reward 2nd and 3rd year players. Shai and Dan Rioli are best mates so no doubt Hardwick wants to give him a crack in the side. Corey Ellis is another who will keep Higgins out of the side. Mark my words

Doughboy

I think Lycett is a no-brainer, not to mention great value and good job security

Mitch

This is my first team lock and loaded, thoughts ?
Yeo, Laird, Hibberd, Saad, Doedee, Murray, Grathwaite, Mirra
Dangerfield, T.Mitchell, Fyfe, Pendlebury, J.Selwood, Banfield, J.Garrlett, Barry, Kelly, Worpel, Bell
Martin, Gawn, Lavender
Heaney, Greene, Wingard, Smith, Keefe, Ryan, Mcartan, Brown

Maverick

Greene hasn’t been training with the main group much . Had an injury while overseas and bound to be suspended through the season once maybe twice. Save ya self headache now and maybe swap him to tracca, Walters or Dahlhaus?

Finnius

Saad will not average more than 80 and if you want him to be a keeper he needs to be much higher than that

Marco_Polo94

First post of the new season and it's good to be back! Sorry to read all the negative comments Lek and Patch, I can't imagine it's been easy trying to fill Jock's size 19 shoes. Take on the constructive criticism, ignore the haters, and keep tinkering away until you boys find your feet. It'll take some time but I'm confident you'll both find the right balance of gags/stats at some point. You're both statistical legends so I have no doubt you're the right blokes to lead the community forward through this transition.

Onto SC and what a horrible anus season 2017 was for me. After my most successful season yet in 2016 (top 30 and 150 in real dream team and SC respectively), I entered the 2017 campaign with an unhealthy amount of optimism and overthinking only for the fantasy gods to smite the absolute shit out of me. A mistake I don't plan on repeating this season as it was my worst finish to date since taking this stuff more serious.

I plan on a more relaxed approach this year with less drafting, less thinking and more following of thy gut. At this very early stage it's pretty difficult to know anything about my structures and what players I'm keen on, but blokes like Redden, Shuey, JOM, McGrath have all piqued my interest. Like many community members a WCE midfielder seems tasty for 2018.

You'll find me in the comments.

Steeeve

To start Danger or not?

Last season he opened with 416 points in the first three rounds! This still dropped his price about $23,000 to $693,200. But that's a lot of points to miss out on.
After that he pumped out a 90, 120, 65. This is exactly what you're hoping for if you don't select him. It caused his price to fall to $560,000 in round 9 — right when you'd have cash cows ready to slaughter.
From then on his scores were out of this world.

The year before Danger went sub-100 twice in his first four games. But the other two matches he went off, so his price never dropped. An 86 in round 9 led to his price falling to the $600,000 mark at the byes. Those who jumped on at his absolute cheapest were instantly rewarded with a 229-point outburst.

So history shows even in his two amazing previous seasons Danger could be brought into your team for $600,000 or less around the byes. This is a mammoth saving.

The two issues are:
1. There is no guarantee he will drop to that level again. Even dropping to $650,000 would not make the money you've saved worth the trade — especially considering the points you've missed out on
2. Even if Danger falls to his lowest level at Geelong, say $550,000, you will still have missed out on a big chunk of points. When he was at his lowest value in the past two years (round 9 2017 — $560,000) he had averaged over 114 points across eight games.

Derek

all good numbers. but you can say that about any of the expensive players, they all drop in value.

Off the top of my head, last year 48 out of the 50 most expensive players droped in price from their starting value, in 2016 it was 49/50. so unless you are starting with 8 keepers in the guts, you are going to be buying any other keepers at a reduced price. i agree that if danger drops it maybe a bigger decline that others, but you can't just look at it in isolation.

Derek

im Not starting TMitch, say he goes alright and drops at some point to $590, I’ve saved $65k instead of $150k on Danger, the net is only $85k.

The question is, how many points am Ahead by having Danger instead of Mitch? Allow a few points for the extra $100k saved would have scored.

I don’t this there is $85k value there, especially with a few C options.

Steeeve

Oh yeah I was just trying to impart some facts. If anyone read my post and thought it might be a good idea not to start Danger then they are fools.
That quick analysis I whipped up shows that even in the best case scenario (for those not starting him) you lose a lot of points for a significant chunk of the season.

Derek

That’s good. For a moment I thought you were not starting him

Steeeve

I originally added a final sentence saying I would start Danger. But then i thought nah let people read it and decide for themselves.

Rick Grimes

He gives you a perma captain option. So not only can you grab the 150, you'll double it. Yes you can grab him cheap at some stage, but you may already be well out of contention unless you've nailed your captain choices.

WYatt

Def – Laird, P.Hanley, Hibberd (Melb), O'Shea, Keefe , Doedee (Murray, Cummins)

Mid – Titch, Danger, Fyfe, THE Zorko,J Kelly, Ahern, Dow, Holman (Barry, Worpel, T Kelly)

Rucks – Gawn,Sandilands (Cameron)

Fwd – Heeney, J Kennedy, Smith, Barlow, Higgins , Rioli (Ryan, Fritsch)

Thoughts? Changes?

TommyC99

Dusty or Titch to start? Originally was going to go with Titch and grab dusty when he should drop in price. But that VC option is pretty valuable early (danger plays late early on). Titch is more of a C than a VC pick

Finnius

I have gone with Titch out of the two, purely because of the bye situation in my side. I couldn't have Dusty, Fyfe, Danger, Crouch, Heeney, Laird and Billings all out in the one rd.

Derek

That darn bye

Jordan

550K or less midfielder and christiensen
Or
Dusty and 170k or less fwd rookie

With option one I only have 6 rookies on field

With option two I have danger titch and dusty

Which option?

Finnius

I'd be going option two

pod

How about Cotchin & Christenson? I reckon the premiership captain will be mentally invincible and therefore have his best season yet. At around $550k he's a bargain!

Jason

Does the supercoach app still have the bye round helper for the players I can't seem to find it. Thanks community

Finnius

it is available on the computer, I'm not sure about the app though

Jason

OK thnx will try

Skindog

Normally the app gets changed every year, and have to update/upload a new one, maybe thats why??

The Magpie Dentist

Laird, Hibberd, Simpson, Sicily, O'Brien, Doedee (Murray, Keefe)
Danger, Dusty, Fyfe, Bont, Ross, Dow, Stephenson, Barry (Holman, Banfield, Kelly)
Ryder, Gawn (DeKoning)
Heeney, Dahlhaus, Petracca, Christensen, Ahern, Higgins (Rioli, Garlett)

$60,800

Maverick

could L.Jones actually be a legitimate D3 or D4? his end to last season was terrific once he went down back an he is lighting up JLT1 he is doing whatever he likes out there and looks great

Defying_Madness

I would be looking at Marchbank instead of Jones. I haven't been watching the game but based on the stats it looks like he may have taken over Docherty's role. Can anyone who is watching confirm or deny this?

TOPHAWK1

Looks that way mate. Marchbank is looking very good at half time (60SC) with Jones on 73SC, and Simpson on 42 SC. Marchbank at $381K is awkwardly priced, but is young and could easily propel his average from 69 in 2017 to 85+ this season, especially if he plays in the pozzie he is playing in tonight. I'd rather pay the price and go for a proven gun in that back line.

Rick Grimes

Marchbank is peaking the interest. Am on Simpson at the moment as I see him getting most benefit from the lack of Doc. But if Marchy lifts his output to 90+ consistently, he's a steal.

Defying_Madness

He is peaking my interest for sure. If he plays in a similar role in the next JLT match and pumps out another strong score I will be considering him for my team. The cash I would gain by starting him instead of Simpson is also extremely tempting.

TOPHAWK1

Liam Jones does look solid, but I am prefer Kade Simpson. With the Doc out for the year, he should be a busy busy boy. That said, Jones could be worth a punt and is 90K cheaper than Simmo. Not for me though. Cheers.

Jason

You're all looking in the wrong place. No Carlton defenders this year.

TOPHAWK1

Which defenders are you looking at?

Skindog

I agree, they'll struggle without Docherty,,

Finnius

Even Shane Savage – liked the look of him at the end of last year and has looked excellent today. Scores after coming back from injury last year: 101, 125, 107, 103, 115, 94, 76, 81 for an average of just over 100. Only 1% ownership as well.

Skindog

Big call, whats his POD %???

TOPHAWK1

Any reason Cam O'Shea is not playing tonight?

Finnius

Just don't think he is good enough… listed as an emergency. They have Marchbank, Byrne, Simpson and Mullet coming out of defence

Skindog

ordinary at best, like pies mum

TommyC99

Tracca and Cripps – 54k left over
Oliver and Christensen – 137k left over

gator59

Cripps and oliver

ZerrettForPM

oliver christen any day of week

Derek

Oliver a lock.

Clueless

Thoughts on Shuey as a point of difference??

John

He would have 4 or 5 players hanging off him each game. Hutchenson from WC may be worth looking at instead.

Derek

He is in a very big group of players just below the elite midfielders. So many to choose from, so many to get wrong.

One thing in his favour, there is a big hole in the WCE midfield to fill

Rocksta

Waste of a pick. Won’t average high enough but still costs quite a bit. He isn’t SC relevant IMHO.

Rick Grimes

Had him Last year. Super frustrating. Might get more of it this year but will also get a lot of attention. No for me.

Rocksta

Billings or Greene?

myenvironmentalaudit

no flog rule so Billings

WYatt

Fwd – Heeney, J Kennedy, Smith, Barlow, Higgins , Rioli (Ryan, Fritsch)
Good Foriward

Westy

Updated team
B – Hibberd, Hanley, Simpson, Savage, Doedee, Murray, Watson, Keefe
M – Martin, Mitchell, Zorko, Fyfe, Cripps, Armitage, T Kelly, Barry, Fogarty, Freeman, Holman
R – Gawn, Smith, English
F – Heeney, Barlow, D Smith, Deledio, Ahern, Ryan, Garlett, Naish.
+ 163K cash
Still more work to be done.

Initial team
B – O'Shea, Murray, Doedee, J Smith, Keeffe H Goddard, Rice, Mirra
M – Martin, Mitchell, Zorko, Fyfe, Cripps, Trengove, T Kelly, Barry, Fogarty, Freeman, Holman
R – Z Smith, Natanui, English
F – Heeney, Barlow, Deledio, J Higgins, Ahern, Ryan, Garlett, Naish.
+2M cash

FearTheBeard

Lads can I please get some thoughts on the current set up, every year competitive as with the old boy :

Laird, Hibberd, Lloyd, Sicily, Doedee, Murray, Keefe, Murphy

Danger, Dusty, Titch, Fyfe, Bont, Armitage, Banfield, Kelly, Garlett, Worpel, Barry

Gawn, Lynette, Cameron

Heeney, Barlow, Smith, Petracca, Christensen, Ahern, Fritsch, Ryan.

Thanks community 🙂

The Ranger

I reckon you can pick up Dusty for a bit less so I'm not starting him Beard.

FearTheBeard

Thoughts overall the rest?

I'm a Dusty and Tigs fan mate :p that ain't happening on my end 😉

The Ranger

Hahaha…other than that it looks good.
Obviously all the rookies are tbc at this stage.
The only other thing I'd flag is that Armitage, Lycett, Barlow, Smith and Christensen are all a bit injury prone.
Good luck mate.

FearTheBeard

Thanks mate and to you! Anyone in particular you would be looking at over those lads?

The Ranger

I prefer Dawson to Lycett and other than that I prefer to go guns and rookies so I'd look to drop one of Barlow or Christensen down to a rookie.
Then you only have three injury concerns not five.

Jdizzle

Thoughts on this line-up everyone? Few risky picks in there but would welcom any feedback overall

DEF: Yeo, Lloyd, Wilson, Saad, O’Shea, Keeffe,( Doedee, Murray)

MID: Dusty, Zorko, Fyfe, Kennedy, Cripps, Coniglio, A.Brayshaw, LDU, (T.Kelly, Worpel, Holman)

RUC: Grundy, Gawn, (English)

FWD: Heeney, Petracca, Lobb, Stringer, D.Fogarty, Higgins, (Ahern, W.Rioli)

Cheers community!

The Ranger

Don't mind the Wilson pick and Kennedy might actually be a POD this year.
Too many midpricers for my liking and you need to have Danger IMHO.

Jdizzle

Was thinking I could get danger at a cheaper price later on, but am worried about losing out on the chunk of points he could potentially have given me in the time it takes for his price (if it even does) go down

Post_MaSloane

Depends what you're going for, if you're going for rank in my opinion not having danger will cost you valuable points, however if you just want to kick your mates arses in your work league it's definitely feasible to pick him up at a cheaper price

Derek

you can say that about every premium, you will get them all cheaper at a later time. 48/50 most expensive players last year dropped in price at some point from their starting price, and it was 49/50 the year before.

ZerrettForPM

Not all of them cost 700+k Derek..

Derek

Lets say you don't get Danger and decide to wait for him to drop in price. lets say Danger averages 135 for the first 5 and has a couple of 100's. he will be around $630k by round 9. a massive drop of $130k. a perfect plan, assuming it fits in with your cash generation and any other injury problems, believe me it never works out like that, but you saved yourself $130k. well done.

lets say you started TMitch instead of Danger. lets say TMitch averages 115 for the first 5 and then has a couple of 100's. he will be around $570k by round 9. drop of $83k. This is when other people who didn't have him can get him.

this only puts you $47k better off by starting TMitch than starting Dangerfield.

However, Danger has outscored TMitch by 140 pts (double that if you managed the C). is that worth $47k?

all the premiums drop in value, Danger may drop more than the others, but you still have to look at it relative to the ones that you do have that other players will be able to get cheaper.

Liam

You also get the extra 100k to spend else where. Maybe that’s Grundy to Kruezer. There’s an extra 15 points.
That needs to be added in the calculations.

Russty_

100% right Derek, it's not about the money in the end, it's about how many points you have.

ZerrettForPM

Yes… but you get the 150~k to spend elsewhere which can easily add points elsewhere.

Russty_

Getting someone in later on…is not as easy as it appears to be, I couldn't get Titch in last year until about round 17, in the meantime, I missed out on a sh#tload of points, and that'll be worse leaving Danger out.