158 Comments

Patch · 24/08/2017 at 13:03
You've been huge yourself mate – thanks so much for filling in while I was off for a few weeks coming to terms with how bad my team was. You were absolutely stellar to the point I was worried I wouldn't get the gig back!

SC_Kev7 · 24/08/2017 at 14:24
A pleasure, Patch. If you need to rush off again to save the world in 2018 just drop me a line and I'll step up

The Ranger · 22/08/2017 at 15:42
Beams is in rippin form if you can get him.

frogger · 22/08/2017 at 16:39
If Neale doesn't get up, Neale -> Beams / Zorko up against Nth (Nth has given up big midfield scores this year). Parker or Zaharakis vs Freo as a smoky also options.
Else Treloar > Heppell / N Jones maybe. Good luck.

Graven Icon · 23/08/2017 at 11:25
Kelly is a gem

INPieman · 22/08/2017 at 16:13
No worries ranger. Sure has been a rough year. One by one so many reliables were sent to their fantasy graves. Onwasrds & upwards mate

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 22/08/2017 at 17:19
Loved the banter ranger
Review and come back with new ammunition next year.

frogger · 22/08/2017 at 16:39
Beams vs Nth.

Moggies · 22/08/2017 at 18:30
Most so called female SuperCoaches are partners 2nd teams.
Check the buy rounds top ten scorers, mostly females.

Moosehead · 22/08/2017 at 19:09
Aha. I never thought of that. So, a form of cheating. No way I would/could do that. My wife hates SC. Gee, some SCers are desperate.

sc tragic · 23/08/2017 at 10:13
All teams with lady coaches are not their partners 2nd teams. Under my own banner I am in 2 GFs was beaten in 3 PFs by less than 30 points. Read the book Jock and followed all comments on this site. Thanks guys. Go pies 2018 !!

hedski · 22/08/2017 at 19:57
Hope ya give Jay "sugar ray" Clark a flogging Neil.

neil demons delight · 22/08/2017 at 23:13
that's a monumental task mate but you never know thanks

Russty_ · 22/08/2017 at 23:43
Hey Neil, he's predicted to get 2500 this week, but everything has to go right for that, doubt it'll be a huge week like last week was, so hope you can kick his butt to the kerb mate.

neil demons delight · 22/08/2017 at 23:55
its funny Russty two weeks back scored 2k but lucky I had a rest then with the same team knocked out 2500 GOING TO BE REAL TOUGH Coreys league is very underated been good for two years beat corey last week and he is a gun certainly better than me so there is hope.Couple of outs and a new ballgame ONE thing that's got me close is I have 14 dpp,s and that's a real advantage with premium outs thanks for your comments alwaysconstructive

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 00:01
Cheers Neil, ditto mate, always enjoy your insights as well…and yes DPP's are important, I'm going for more next year, one mistake I made this year is not securing my Ruck DPP, had Soldo on the bench when it should've been Strndica.

Rocksta · 23/08/2017 at 00:18
I hear ya Rusty. I have Soldo on the bench and if Goldy doesn't get up, I'm looking at a Donut in the GF as used my last trades last week.
Highly unlikely Soldon will get a Guernsey this week with Nank's great form last week one out.

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 00:27
Jeez mate that's rough, hope the big fella passes his fitness test for ya..I just read him, Preuss and Larkey could all be out this week, just caps off their season really, fingers crossed for ya he makes it mate.
Yeah I don't like Soldo's chances either after last week, I reckon the Tigers need to let Nank be the man and not share duties, otherwise he just goes mediocre.

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 08:26
did the same still have him big mistake

Swans2012 · 23/08/2017 at 09:00
it's definitely the toughest league I've been in this year Neil (looking forward to the cashy gf against you! I'm thewinningchoice by the way), I made a decision early on to focus a bit more on leagues this year (I'm hardline ranking only normally), and I guess it's paid off as I've made the cashy and trigs happy place gf's (there's been a fair bit of luck involved though). My ranking has dropped off a bit over the last month to 2k ish from a high in the top 1000 so definitely not my greatest season but respectable still…. can't wait to do it all again next year! Thanks for the opportunity again trig! Great league!!

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 11:36
yeah Jayden I did know your name and what an amazing year for you To even be playing you in the cashy G F is unreal out of my league but I will give it a red hot go champ. I dropped off also at the end mid 3ooo at one stage but happy and enjoyed it all Keep it in mind next year I would love the cashy runner up in my league A GRADERS .one point Jayden name changes make it difficult when selecting coaches for leagues I know I cancelled one of the top players who changed names and am really embarrassed trying to make A GRADERS the top league but TRIGGS the cashys from pies Legends Shake n bakes UP THERECAZALLY AND Coreys leagues are top competition wish I could say good luck but may we both enjoy it cheers mate neil Demons Delight

Swans2012 · 24/08/2017 at 19:27
I think we'll both need luck Neil, I'm sure we'll converse some more over the weekend!! And would love an invite to a graders!

Don't Blush Baby · 23/08/2017 at 19:32
Thanks Trig for inviting me into your league this year ,whilst I couldn't crack it for the top 8 I'm playing Jock in the Minor Premiership Final of which I'm stoked about
Cheers To All

neil demons delight · 22/08/2017 at 23:20
beams

frogger · 23/08/2017 at 01:23
Other than JJK, think pretty much every KPF Jones has gone to has underperformed vs season avg. Would assume he'll get Franklin.
Believe North gives up higher midfield scores than any other team and Beams has been raping and pillaging as is.
On that basis, Beams for mine unless you really need to take a Hail Mary.

2018 · 22/08/2017 at 22:43
Great Work Ben Great debut. Good luck INPieman and Ben for 2018

neil demons delight · 22/08/2017 at 23:22
wondering how he went we all learnt a lot Pies

Rick Grimes · 23/08/2017 at 07:38
That's a nice story IMP. The force is clearly strong in young Ben. It's a great game for youngsters around learning to interpret stats and understand price movements. Also, as a lot of us experience, learning to take those swift kicks to the nuts when our best laid plans turn to dust!!

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 00:12
Its been more of a frustrating season than most Danners but from my point the most enjoyable.The competition has got a lot more knowledgeable and this makes for a better game. I am retired now and spend a massive amount of time researching. It has paid off with the rookies but not the premium players That's where I have to get better no more Treloars should have seen his disposal was rubbish and he was not an orphan also the ability to preserve trades got to get better but mate I LOVE IT CHEERS have a great break

Russty_ · 22/08/2017 at 23:57
Great stuff Hawker, good to hear you've still got something to look forward to this week mate, bummer you didn't get over the line in the most excellent Pine Lodge League lol was looking forward to locking horns with you in the GF, but not meant to be this year.
Next year for me…
Stick with the youth,
Save a da trades,
Don't be too hasty to trade out injuries or out of form players,
Plenty of DPP's on all lines.
Cheers mate 🙂

gator59 · 23/08/2017 at 00:05
Great stuff Toppa and Russty .. Hope you both go well

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 00:07
Hey Gator, same to you mate, you still in it with a sniff mate?
Go saints this week…hope the impossible happens and everything falls into place for us to make the 8, it's a long shot but possible, hopefully they can do it for St Nick…the Champ.

gator59 · 23/08/2017 at 00:17
Yeah Russty we certainly have our backs against the wall..
If we don't make it and with some good recruiting over the trade period we might make a few sides quiver in there boots

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 00:32
Yeah I'm hoping for a big year from the Saints next year Gator, some of our younger blokes are really starting to step up, exciting times ahead 🙂

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 08:41
Steele was good very good and Kelly would top it off. Both rucks did well too. yeah I reckon sainters are on track

hedski · 23/08/2017 at 07:26
Ha ha, didn't make it TH, looks like your up against Kev, good luck mate.

SC_Kev7 · 23/08/2017 at 07:54
Should be a tight one, TH. I got up by 40 in the regular season. If Neale doesn't get up this week we'll have only 9 different players

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 09:00
all great leagues gator I am in them also and tremble when meeting yourself but that's what it,s about good competition. Silly trades is the no. one Cant help injuries and the byes luckily I nailed that won all 3 but you have to put time into .them early I thought the key to the byes was the early game Port and G.C.. I am thinking 700 was too much for DANGER and in hindsight a late trade would have been smart Got stuck with Jellwood and now rely on DPP,s to cover when I could have a Duncan there. too many could haves have a great off season gator see you next year to revive the battles cheers neil demon delights

gator59 · 23/08/2017 at 10:23
Thanks Neil for the kind words.. I hope you kick some ass this week so you have a little gloat about your efforts … I'm sure your stubborness on not locking the Doch at start of season cost you some what in some of your battles and you may have to pay the big bucks next year to secure him…… I myself love locking horns with you and all the other GREAT super coaches and may it continue for many seasons to come… I think this was my 4th season at this caper and wow i have come a long way and it's all got to do with guys like your self and ALL and i mean ALL the GREAT ones on this sight that contribute on a regular daily basis..
Hoping we can all lift to greater heights next season… So make sure you kick this so called Sugar Ray's ass this week
I sure will be cheering for you mate!!

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 11:23
yeah stubbiness with Doc cost both Derek and myself locked in with Hibberd already in def Another poor choice was Rance Never mind trying hard to do Jay Clark sugar ray but tough gig that and Jayden in Pauls no 1 cashy also real hard SEE YOU 2018 CHEERS

gator59 · 23/08/2017 at 12:08
You sure will Neil cheers mate..

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 00:52
Hey smote, Yeah I did the survey, I would like to see 2 extra trades there, but won't be too heartbroken if they don't, I don't mind just the 2 Emergencies on the fwd and back lines, I'd actually like it back the way it was before they changed it with 2 E's on all lines. 3 in the midfied isn't really necessary in my opinion and an extra ruck would've been handy this year….then we could've had a non dpp but possibly playing one, and a dpp for loopholing purposes.
It also looks like they're looking at the possibility of just making it one charge for Supercoach Gold and the Herald Sun Subscription in one, rather than charging $20 for Gold and $28 a month for the articles etc. I suggested the $49.95 charge, hope they go with that.
I'd also like to see a rule where if one of your players goes down within the first 5 minutes of the game, you can still sub them with the E on that line. Their score whatever they got would be wiped off the total, that'd be penalty enough I reckon rather than having to cop a 5 or whatever.
Cheers mate.

Smote · 23/08/2017 at 11:44
Sensible stuff Russty.
The extra sub for ruck instead of more fwd/def subs is a winner which I didn't consider before.
Cheers for your feedback.

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 09:10
Sorry Smote but A for mine leave it 30 trades is plenty and kitty ok too but I do like Rustys 2 ideas 1.when a player goes down early jellwood and Lloyd are two I think that is unfair give us the E and 2 second ruck makes sense too cheers neil

Smote · 23/08/2017 at 11:54
Hey Neil.
No worries mate just testing the waters out there.
Its good to read that folks are more or less happy with the status quo. Means I got to lift my game!
And hold an injured premo & cop the odd donut instead of trading around injuries.

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 12:34
every week there is a flavour of the day Hannan Houston berry THE TRICK IS researching them and getting it right best of luck

Moosehead · 23/08/2017 at 10:03
Leave the game and SC alone. Every year there is an AFL reaction to whinging thus another rule change. I like AFL over soccer but one of the great things about soccer is they leave the game alone (And have one umpire)
and therefore it is easier to control. Our great game is becoming very difficult to umpire because there are too many rules and now we have four umpires – stupid.
Every year I write about how the game is getting faster, the players stronger increasing the momentum = more injuries yet anxious SCers still become trigger happy. Don't panic and use your 30 trades sensibly. I am not high in the rankings but am in several GF's because I had trades.

Smote · 23/08/2017 at 11:56
Cheers Moosehead,
You nailed it with the trigger happy comments.
Still mystifies me how disciplined some folks are with their trades.
Good luck in your GFs.

redherringfc · 23/08/2017 at 16:18
My only suggestion on the survey was that from the bye rounds you can make three trades per week.
I think 30 trades is enough. Next year my goal is to hit the finals with at least 6 trades.

JohndJames · 23/08/2017 at 17:56
Hi Smote,I wouldn't mind an extra three trades,even though I still have two left,but I doubt they will change it,an extra Ruck,like Russty suggested is a good idea,the others can just stay the same.Also having had three players go down in the first few minutes of a game, Lloyd R10 for 4pts,Beams R14 for 12pts and Sandy R15 for 12pts,I totally agree with Russty about being able to use the E in those circumstances.

Tibor · 23/08/2017 at 08:05
He's definitely on the first shortlist for 2018 along with the big bearded man if he gets a good pre season. What does an eagles midfield look like post Mitchell and Priddis?..
Early priority updating the flog list……
Clearly need a spell

INPieman · 23/08/2017 at 14:08
Beams has looked back to his best Rick. And hits the scoreboard. But he comes with so much injury risk

JohndJames · 23/08/2017 at 17:32
I've had him from the start,happy I stuck with him.just put him on the bench till he came back,I was mainly trying to conserve trades.

SC_Kev7 · 23/08/2017 at 10:04
Listed as a test in the injury report yesterday

frogger · 23/08/2017 at 14:12
Test per Ross Lyon, so still a chance.

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 18:51
No reason to play him really, what do they have to gain?

Thomas · 23/08/2017 at 10:30
Yup, that was my name this year, and he sure lived up to the name

Swans2012 · 23/08/2017 at 10:36
nice, makes me laugh for some reason every time I read it.

Loco lad · 23/08/2017 at 11:37
I went three mids that didn't work out but I noticed a couple did so it is a luck think. I didn't go too hard on becoming full premo too early and that is why I am in a few GF's. Had plenty of trades when Selwood, Kennedy etc and Grundy was suspended. (Still disappointed with 2 instead of 1 week) I laugh at the 'Advice' given by the experts about getting to full premo. Seriously. How many SCers really think they can win $50K? Aim for league wins especially the $ leagues and save your trades is my advise esp to newish SCers.

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 19:21
I think "full premo" is a relative term, according to that particular team's coach, a lot of Supercoaches do think they can win the 50k, that's why they play, I don't really understand why you find it so laughable that guys consider getting to full premo important…and scoff at their advice.
That might be something someone would say if they were right up there in the rankings, which I doubt you are.
P.S, you might only be in a few grand finals because you're in some shitty leagues, cheers!

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 11:59
the 250 -450 players imo will be keys next year and Loco is correct trades are the key to it I ran out when jpk and selwood went down and suffered and when you consider I got Newman 3 times and traded him a week later crazy crazy I was lucky to get Nank and Oliver but could easily have been JOM and Swallow research and more research is the go Selection of premiums also is vital Next year I will start with no more than 4 prem mids danger tich oliver andm crouch cheers

The Ranger · 23/08/2017 at 12:41
If this season has taught me anything it is that no two seasons are the same so despite the mid priced team working well this year I don't think it necessarily means that G'n'R won't be a better option next year.
Next year I'll be less strategy based and more focused on value.

SC_Kev7 · 23/08/2017 at 13:06
It's actually really rare that so many midprice selections work out. I feel some will overcorrect next year and go a bit midprice mad. There was enough into on the site about rookies, I can't recall one that was missed, just the rookies were poor and were slow in generating cash.
I'm happy with the amount of preseason research I did, my year just didn't work out. Luck of the draw really. I think my big lesson from the year was I took in a strategy of trading aggressively and staying away from guys who showed form but had a speculative or poor SC-history (coughYeocough). Aggressive trading worked out well for the winner last year but this season was different. Being able to adapt and recognise when a player is playing well (maturity, role change etc) is something I'll try to do next year

CapTkAos · 23/08/2017 at 14:00
I slacked off with pre-season research this year and paid the price. I'm generally a guns and rookie type selector. A couple of the guns I picked had interrupted pre-seasons which I wasn't aware of. They didn't hit round 1 ready to deliver, and I was playing catch up from then on.

redherringfc · 23/08/2017 at 16:30
I learnt that my timing is excisite.
I bought Sloane at his peak price, held him through all of his woeful games and then sold him for a 200k loss the week that he pumps out a 150 odd.

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 18:54
Hahah, you were being sarcastic!…Sloane has been a nightmare for peeps who stuck with him as long as they could and then had to offload him, and then he delivers…thanks chump Sloane!

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 19:03
Hey Thomas, I learned that when you decide to trade a guy like Pederson in cause he was doing so well, maybe hang on a few more weeks to see if he gets back in after he gets dropped, I wish I had now.
Don't ever trade Jaeger O'Meara into your team…period…the guy's a trainwreck.
Lock the Doch, from the start.
Don't necessarily trade Danger in from the start.
Dusty always has a flat patch and ends up under 500K,,,trade him in then.
Should've started with Tom Mitchell but didn't.
Should've listened to my gut and traded in Hurley early, didn't end up doing it.
Should've always had a Ruck DPP with Strndica instead of Soldo.

Derek · 24/08/2017 at 09:38
tried to fit too many "keepers" into my original starting team.
started with 12 Keepers (same as other years)
of those 12, finished the season with only 6 (trelor, fyfe, pendlebury, gawn, cyril, Selwood – all traded out).
Starting with too many keepers lead to a couple of issues.
1) what if those keepers weren't any good? Hannaberry, Shaw etc Might have been good in the past but not any more, could have a different role.
2) not nimble enough to jump on a breakout player. usually have the rest of the team as rookies to generate cash, so can't sell them, and can't sell a keeper, so when a Oliver, Kelly, Yeo, Robertson, Howe, Heeney, Witts, jumps out of the pack early in the season, can't get them.
3) if a keeper gets injured or suspended, the decision to hold or trade is amplified because having so much cash on bench will hurt.
4) having so many keepers, means an overload of rookies to balance out the salary cap. means that we have to rely on on-field rookies to score points. Berry, SPP, Stewart, hampton, parsons, simpkin… all scored less than 30 points when i had them on field.
5) nearly all "keepers" will drop in price at some point during the year and in many cases their starting price is their most expensive.

SC_Kev7 · 23/08/2017 at 12:55
Dusty has only cracked the ton once from his 10 games v Saints.
I like Merrett v Freo. If your opponent C's Danger you can match him or take a risk on Merrett depending on how close the matchup is

Graven Icon · 23/08/2017 at 15:09
Thanks Kev. Wouldn't touch Merrett in a fit. He has lost $117K and his last 3 has averaged 85. Now considering Fyfe because Worsfold doesn't tag.

SC_Kev7 · 23/08/2017 at 16:10
Fair call, GI. Zerrett a handy record v Freo, but yeah, you're right, he's limping over the finish line. Fyfe been much better after the bye

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 18:43
Most players with concussion don't usually play the next week, I'd doubt it.

Derek · 24/08/2017 at 09:09
doubt it

DeadBuried1 · 24/08/2017 at 09:17
According to the Collingwood web site he's been given the green light….

Dojo_Warrior · 24/08/2017 at 11:05
Yep, confirmed by the club in injury report that he will be available for selection

Russty_ · 24/08/2017 at 13:52
Great news!…I can field a full team 🙂

Gravitator · 23/08/2017 at 19:57
For your sake, I hope Adams is ok and plays.

Limbo rocker · 24/08/2017 at 05:16
Adams will play despite Russty's pessimism.

Russty_ · 24/08/2017 at 13:40
I wasn't being pessimistic, I was stating a fact as to the way concussion protocols have played out this season, the majority who had copped a head knock this year were rested the next week.
I have Adams, I want him to play as much as anyone.

Rick Grimes · 24/08/2017 at 09:49
Is Neale playing, touch and go isn't he? Treloar for me. As for Hurley trade, how about a speculator on Pittard or McGovern.

Russty_ · 23/08/2017 at 19:23
Cheers Glory, have a good Summer mate, see you in a few months 🙂

neil demons delight · 23/08/2017 at 19:43
cheers Glory been a weird but enjoyable season

neil demons delight · 24/08/2017 at 08:47
Its a tough call that 90% of us should play for leagues Limbo. I am more in Defying Madness court and believe most serious coaches areThe first step is top 1% THEN TOP 1000 then top 100. Leagues are fun and good banter but I want to test my ability in rank . Have to disagree also with gone after 3 weeks after all most good sc,s would be under 500 off the mark easy peasy to catch up Its all opinion anyway Luck plays an almighty part in our game cheers neil demons delight and good luck to all

Derek · 24/08/2017 at 09:07
fair call. This year i really challenged myself and was in some leagues with elite coaches. had a bad start and was therefore having to chase wins to stay in contact. next year i'll make sure i'm in some crappy leagues 😉

Rick Grimes · 24/08/2017 at 09:41
I predominantly play for rank. The real glory is playing with the big boys at the top. And for me the enjoyment comes in trading and getting to full premium. There is a fine line where you can go for broke early on yet still keep enough trades for the back end. It requires almost perfect trading and a ton of luck.

Limbo rocker · 24/08/2017 at 15:04
Also, I don't have the time to reasearch as much as some of you guys who take it far more seriously than me, and good luck to you if you have the time and inclination.
Titch VC and Danger C? Of the best midfielders, and I believe I have the 8 of the better ones, who WON'T be tagged. Unfortunately I can't use Kelly against Cats. That's the luck of the draw. If I had Beams I'd be tempted but traded him when he did his quad.
I will invest in Jocks magazine next year.
Good fortune everyone except my opponents, especially those two in the money leagues. Hee, hee.

Derek · 24/08/2017 at 08:58
top 1000 is a great effort this year. well done mate. looking forward to catching up in a league with you next year.

Defying_Madness · 24/08/2017 at 15:19
Thanks mate, looking forward to getting in some leagues with some of the guys on the site next year

Rick Grimes · 24/08/2017 at 09:42
Danger. Always Danger.

Lintel · 24/08/2017 at 14:52
What's wrong with Mitchell VC and Danger C?
That will be the call by the majority of SCers this weekend. Personally, I have a problem having only two non players so I must VC early so I can loophole.

The Ranger · 24/08/2017 at 12:10
Not starting TMitch has haunted me all season Rick, he was in my team throughout the preseason and then at the last minute I swapped him for Hanners thinking that Hanners had the runs on the board and would be a safer bet. I remember thinking that with TMitch not at the Swans Hanners might actually average more as I thought he would get more time on the inside.
It all made sense at the time…
I finally brought him in last week with my last trade and he promptly got me into a GF.
He'll be my third pick next year after Danger and Doch.

neil demons delight · 24/08/2017 at 13:46
similar to mine Rick I was lucky snare tich the 3 rucks Lloyd and oliver also had newman 3 times rance and treloar shudder

WightysWarriors · 24/08/2017 at 16:31
Jwood and Dusty for Oliver and Crouch for mine. If I could only pick five.

JohndJames · 24/08/2017 at 17:16
Looks good to me Neil,you could even add Beams to that midfield if he is at the right price.In def I would be getting Doc and Hibberd and in the Rucks probably Ryder if he keeps his Ruck/Fwd rating as for the Fwds ,Buddy,Heeney and Macrae will be on the watchlist.

neil demons delight · 24/08/2017 at 18:09
yep I was tossing up with him definetely next Spot on with def Ryder and MCrae not to bad the other player locked in is Gawn so you nailed it except Maxy well done still the GF in cashy and COREYS LEAGUE left and of course the MIGHTY DEES GO DEES CHEERS j j

neil demons delight · 24/08/2017 at 17:57
Thanks for your views this year for me in particular was pre season I must admit , though it didn't work, your idea on m7 had me thinking .Always ripping contests looking forward to next year mate

Russty_ · 24/08/2017 at 18:07
Cheers Derek, thanks for all your thoughts and insights mate, catch you next time around. Have a good Summer.

Moosehead · 24/08/2017 at 18:27
I always look fwd to your views Derek. Thanks for all you have done to help me me. In a few Grannies so ya.

Rocksta · 24/08/2017 at 22:22
Tell me about it. I haven't got any trades left so will have to rely on either Glass, or Grimes via DPP swing ( Adams into the guts) if Glass bombs as cover. Other than that, full Premo but my opponent has a strong team and trades left.
It will most likely cost me the Granny.

Dan · 26/08/2017 at 13:05
Yeo if you can afford him