PODCAST: Supercoach Finals Week 3

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SuperCoach Finals Week 2


A time of reflection and planning for the future for others.
We look at some moistening trade in options this week. We look towards 2018. We prime ourselves for this Sunday’s community contest (Fremantle v Richmond this week)
Enjoy friends, thanks as always for your support. See you in the comments.

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Imgonnalose · 15/08/2017 at 16:51

Thanks for the cracking, crutchular area stimulisation this year boys! And to the community – good luck to everyone for the next 2 weeks and your Pre season research!

My question: I have 945000 to spend on a mid and a fwd, who do I go with?

    Imgonnalose · 15/08/2017 at 16:53

    Make that 938700

      Stunning · 15/08/2017 at 17:02

      How can you expect help if you don't name your team.
      Have you got The Bont and Yeo?

        Stunning · 15/08/2017 at 17:06

        Sorry but that adds up to about a mill.

          Imgonnalose · 15/08/2017 at 17:19

          Mids: Danger, Sloane, Kelly, Zorko, Merrett, Bont, Adams
          Forwards: Yeo, Dahl, Macrae, Nank, Heeney

            Tibor · 15/08/2017 at 18:06

            Oliver playing against Brisbane then pies both at the G with everything to play for, costs just under 600k

              Ostrich · 15/08/2017 at 21:00

              Leaving only $340K to get a fwd. no way.

                Tibor · 16/08/2017 at 09:19

                C'mon Oswald Q, he can just about get Trav Cloke for that

    FCAbel · 15/08/2017 at 21:52

    Bennell and zorko or Billings and rocky

    Tim · 01/11/2018 at 01:18

    Listening to Crouching, Jock and Higgo. How good ? you're the best

Joshua · 15/08/2017 at 16:52

Is Neale a goner? Of course when I trade him in 🙁

    Cogla13 · 15/08/2017 at 18:50

    I am hearing he might miss the last 2 games, he's been playing sore.

      Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 19:13

      What's your source?, I didn't see it anywhere.

        Joshua · 15/08/2017 at 19:28


          Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 19:48

          Oh ok cheers Josh, strange how there's no mention of this on the AFL website or the Herald Sun site.

        Stirlsy · 15/08/2017 at 20:07

        Ill watch news ross will tell all he on in 20mins

          Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 20:22

          Thanks Stirlsy.

        Stirlsy · 15/08/2017 at 20:32

        OK Russty this is what the Boss just said about Neale, yes i heard that going around this morning and i spoke to him and he is sore and shouldn't have played on the weekend.
        He will have an easy week and see how he comes up for this week but hasn't been ruled out for this week or the week after.
        And more tomoz as the man himself is on news tomorrow nite, might get a better answer then.
        Hope that's some help Russty but we are talking Freo hardest team to get much out of.

          Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 21:16

          Cheers Stirlsy, you're a gentleman mate, Hope Neale can lift himself to see out the last few games to play for some pride, bit of a bummer how the general public are always the last ones to know, if I'd known about this, I wouldn't have brought him in, as I'm sure Josh wouldn't have.

          Thanks again mate.

            Stirlsy · 15/08/2017 at 21:22

            Anytime…..Neale is on news tomorrow night so ill leave that msg here also.

              Hubba · 16/08/2017 at 21:35

              This is not good news to me…

    Swans2012 · 15/08/2017 at 21:10

    No Neale will make things……interesting…..I mean that in a horrified bad sort of way……

      Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 21:21

      Yup…sure will!….I'm hoping he just opts to see the season out, and then gets his issues taken care of, rather than sitting the rest of it out.

        Stirlsy · 16/08/2017 at 20:29

        As you have probably read he is out this week hopes to be able to play last game. But he will require surgery on both groins at end of season so hard to see any reason he plays again this year IMO.

          Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 20:50

          Dangit!….thanks for the news Stirlsy, haven't had a chance to check today, cheers mate.

          Swans2012 · 16/08/2017 at 21:54

          Neale and Selwood to trade with one trade left…….interesting….I guess its hold Neale and hope…..

            Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 21:57

            How much cash Swans?…can you get an ultra-premo trading Selwood? otherwise, maybe trade Neale…give yourself the best chance of winning.

              Swans2012 · 17/08/2017 at 07:55

              Yeah it's a tough call, no cash but I can swing Lloyd in for cover for one of them and still have rookie loophole options for what they are worth, just thinking if there is a chance Neale plays next week then he'd be best to hold, but as stated above I can't see any benefit that'd make freo play him next week.

Good Times · 15/08/2017 at 17:29

Farewell Golden Oldies
Scott Thompson
Jobe Watson
Steve Johnson
Josh Gibson
Luke Hodge
Ivan Maric
Nick Riewoldt
Sam Mitchell
Matt Priddis
Matthew Boyd
Robert Murphy

    Tibor · 15/08/2017 at 18:22

    Pretty impressive list

    Any chance of Razor Ray hanging up his whistle and massive "look at me" attitude so we can really celebrate

    Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 21:38

    Add James Kelly too, he was one of the good ones at Geelong for awhile.

    Smote · 16/08/2017 at 23:08

    See ya later and thanks for the memories Zac Dawson.

jockreynolds · 15/08/2017 at 17:41

Flux. Sad. Part of life. We stand on the shoulders of giants

    Hubba · 16/08/2017 at 21:36

    Wonder will Sandi retire?

Paule · 15/08/2017 at 17:47

this is my team, I have 2 trades left and want to use em this week to get into the final of my cash league at work. What to do?

DEF: S.Docherty, T.Adams, J.Lloyd, M.Hibberd, N.Newman, H.Shaw, L.Ryan, B.McNiece

MID: P.Dangerfield, T.Mitchell, M.Bontempelli, M.Murphy, R.Slone, D.Heppell, T.Rockliff, S.Selwood, D.Myers, D.Mountford, S.Bolton

RUC: S.Mumford, M.Gawn, T.Nankervis

FOR: E.Yeo, L.Franklin, L.Dahlaus, JSteele, I.Heeney, H.Greenwood, J.Stewart, L.Strnadica

Only have $41,300 in the bank. The wisdom of the community would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your help.

    Imgonnalose · 15/08/2017 at 17:52

    Why don't you have Macrae??? The only forward you need
    Nank to Macrae and greenwood to a rookie

      Paule · 15/08/2017 at 18:25

      not enough cash

        Paule · 15/08/2017 at 18:28

        whoops. Looking into it now. Cheers

    Ruddigar · 15/08/2017 at 18:20

    Do you need those three in the ruck. You could move the Nank forward and trade him to free up cash. I'd stick with Gawn despite his terrible weekend score. This was the result of some of the worst umpiring ruck decisions ever and though they won't admit it it would have to have been addressed and unlikely to re occur if you have doubt check video for yourself.

    Maybe one short in the midfield???

    Rocksta · 15/08/2017 at 18:38

    Nank to Soldo, Myers to Beams or Zerrett.


      Tibor · 15/08/2017 at 18:41

      Sounds about right good call

    Paule · 15/08/2017 at 19:52

    OK so I'm thinking of a bit of a shark move. let me know what you think? Trade out Greenwood and Ryan for Laird and Brayshaw.

      Paule · 15/08/2017 at 19:54

      and moved Nank forward

      redherringfc · 16/08/2017 at 13:09

      The risk with those trades is that the guys you are trading out are a good chance to outscore the ones you are moving in. Bradshaw only scored 91 and from watching the game he slowed a lot in the 2nd half. 2nd game back can be well below the first. Laird has not been great lately.

      I'd go with one up and one down. Nank almost certainly is the 1st to go, put Strnadica in the ruck, bring in a cheapy. I'd probably bring in Hurley for one of the defenders, Newman for mine.

      If you want to roll the dice pick a key position forward who is cheap and might kick a bag.

Stirlsy · 15/08/2017 at 18:02

Congrats Higgo on yr DRAFTSTARS win. Not far away Jock yr turn will come.

    hedski · 15/08/2017 at 18:31

    Scored $2.75 on the weekend Stirlsy…bang.

      jockreynolds · 15/08/2017 at 19:43

      Cheers Stirlsy, rapt mate

      Stirlsy · 15/08/2017 at 20:10

      2.60 for me another lolly pop coming my way. Did you see Gator's big win on Sunday?

        hedski · 15/08/2017 at 21:09

        Yeah mate, great collect. Gotta get me some.

Steeeve · 15/08/2017 at 20:04

I can't recall the term but it defines players who seemingly have exited premiumhood, then bounce back for one more beastly year.
Who are some candidates next year? I'm thinking JPK.

    Stirlsy · 15/08/2017 at 20:20

    Is that the term yr looking for?

      Steeeve · 15/08/2017 at 23:03

      Could be
      Seem to recall Higgo wrote about it in the magazine back when.
      Im thinking:
      Both should be steals and history shows blokes are capable of having one more massive year around that 30 mark.

      Fyfe and Hanners present value next year as well but are still right in their primes.
      I'll also be looking closely at Cripps. And Nic Nat.

        The Ranger · 16/08/2017 at 09:52

        It was in one of the mags wasn't it Steeeve? Buffalo Bounce? Was that it?
        It's used to describe an ageing prermo who has a bit of a drop off one year but then, having realised their mortality, smashes out a great year the next time around.
        Pendles, Selwood, JPK, there's a few that could do it.
        I'll be backing in Pendles if he has a good preseason, injury and pregnancy did for him this time around.

          Derek · 16/08/2017 at 10:22

          the Buffalo Bounce refers to key position Forwards.

          Due to their large standard deviation in scores and their relatively high Starting price, the KPF will nearly always drop in price in the first half of the season. Then due to the same effect of a large standard deviation they will rise in price in the second half of the season.

          not sure why it is called a Buffalo Bounce…… i have heard of dead-cat bounces.

    Stirlsy · 15/08/2017 at 20:22

    Fyfe for me but his already turned it around.

    Swans2012 · 15/08/2017 at 21:11


    neil Demons Delight · 15/08/2017 at 21:37

    Dahlhouse for mine too good to be that poor

      Steeeve · 15/08/2017 at 23:04

      Will be a starter in my team again next year Neil. Even if he's not quite been himself this season.

      Hopefully Bont and Robbie Gray can join him up forward.

      Tibor · 16/08/2017 at 09:25

      If Max Gawn is fit and healthy he will be a monster

      Tyruddanaut · 16/08/2017 at 20:13

      It depends on his JS in inside midfield. The dogs have about 5 so do a lot of rotations

    Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 22:00

    Bugger all past premos for me next season, I'll be looking towards the new crop coming through…could end up being a disaster year but at least I'll learn who's coming through in the new generation.

    Smote · 16/08/2017 at 01:14

    A few reliable premos were revealed to have chinks in their armour this year and require careful consideration for SC '18.
    Sloane who can't handle a tag.
    Rockliff…shoulder stuffed plus coach gave him his first ever tagging job.
    Pendles…getting on and durability now has a possible ?
    Ablett jr…as above, plus heart not in it at GC.

    As mentioned above, will be considering:
    Jack Steven
    Bring on next year.

      Derek · 16/08/2017 at 09:35

      i fear the game may have become too fast for JPK. Not as many stoppages so he is out of the game too much.

      my first picked next year will be MCrouch.

      Others high on my list will be:

      Jack martin
      lewis taylor

        Stirlsy · 16/08/2017 at 13:37

        I'm quite big on Whitfield for next year as well Derek, if Kelly departs GWS he will be the one to grab.

      SC_Kev7 · 16/08/2017 at 09:39

      If Gaz made it to the Cats would you consider him, Smote?

        Smote · 16/08/2017 at 12:25

        Gaz as a pure mid, no mate. Durability just is not there unfortunately.
        2017 14 games (won't add to this)
        2016 14 games
        2015 6 games
        2014 15 games
        Saving your trades so critical to this caper….

        Smote · 16/08/2017 at 12:59

        JPK ave disposals this year…. 28. Ranked 16th overall.

        But i take on board your point Derek…out of the top 15 ranked players (for highest ave disposals) to play 15 or more games this year only Mark Murphy and JPK are over 29 years of age.

        Definitely need to consider the younger crop coming through.

        McGrath… too many lockdown roles on small forwards?

        Really like MCrouch, Oliver, Menegola, Blakely and Hopper as choices…especially Hopper with an injury free preseason and possible new club.

    Derek · 16/08/2017 at 09:55

    you are talking about the "Mammoth Curve"

    discussed in detail in the first Jock magazine.

    Like a mammoth who knows they are heading for extinction, they harden themselves for one last crack at it.

    Pendlebury is a good example

      The Ranger · 16/08/2017 at 10:10

      That's it Derek, the Mammoth Curve!
      That was doing my head in…

      Steeeve · 16/08/2017 at 22:10

      Thats it! Agree on Pendles. JPK will be very tempting at his price. Cant think of too many others.
      Reason I brought it up, everyone is talking about the next generation. These traditional beasts could be real pods.

    Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 21:43

    Tyrone Vickery, if he can get back to his best and stay out of injury trouble, he could get back to averaging 50 points per game 🙂

ahmad rubas · 15/08/2017 at 20:12

whats the better trade bring in martin in my midfield because my opponent has him and i can cover his score if he goes massive or bring in crouch who my opponent doesnt have

    Paule · 15/08/2017 at 20:25

    tigers V Freo or Crows V Swans I reckon Dusty will go large.

    Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 22:12

    I'd go Crouch Ahmad…mr consistency!

Tyruddanaut · 15/08/2017 at 20:36

Which retirees were better? This years or 2007s? 2007 had Archer, Hird, Kouta, Bucks, and more that I can't name off the top of my head

    Don't Blush Baby · 15/08/2017 at 20:53

    Riccuitto,Grant & Darcy in 2007- arguments for both ,personally I prefer 2017

    Derek · 16/08/2017 at 08:54

    I'm fearing a fremantle press conference…………… will Zac Dawson retire this season? I'll be devastated.

      Tibor · 16/08/2017 at 09:26

      Has a garbage truck pulled up out front?

      neilDemons Delight · 16/08/2017 at 09:32

      Hawks might chase him for gobbos spot Logical replacement think of it Derek Cyril and Zac in the Bunnies

        Derek · 16/08/2017 at 09:39

        a big Home Coming for the ex-hawk.

        he has been kicking a few goals in the WAFL

    Derek · 16/08/2017 at 09:10

    Gibbo and Bob added to the list.

Don't Blush Baby · 15/08/2017 at 20:49

Just looking at the injury list on the AFL site it happens every year where the teams that are in contention have the least amount of significant injuries

Rocksta · 15/08/2017 at 20:52

Ok, this is doing my head in. 2 trades left going into a prelim this week. Do I:

1) Jelwood to Dusty/Matt Crouch and Ryan to Grimes( will be bench cover). This will leave me with no cover in the fwd line.
2) Jelwood to Rocky and Goldy to Heeney via Ryder into Ruck. Leaves me with cover on all lines
3) Jelwood to Sloane and Goldy to Wallis via Ryder into Ruck. Leaves me with cover on all lines.

Help desperately needed.

    Swans2012 · 15/08/2017 at 21:30

    2. Better to prepare for the worst…… and rocky and Heeney score more than wallis and Sloane from here imo

    I'm considering similar problems although the potential for Neale out may change things

    neil Demons Delight · 15/08/2017 at 21:42

    no 2 but not sure on Rocky will get the vince tag this week would go m crouch

      Swans2012 · 16/08/2017 at 08:30

      I think Zorko gets that tag?

        Swans2012 · 16/08/2017 at 08:30

        Or even beams or rich ahead of current form rocky?

          Derek · 16/08/2017 at 09:08

          for a moment there, i thought you were saying to pick Rich…….. phew.

            Tibor · 16/08/2017 at 09:31

            Why would Melb tag any of this lot, surely if you are a prospective finals team playing the bottom side you back your own players to get the job done and play attacking rather than defensively. Doesn't matter to Melb if Rocky scores 150 plus but has little impact on the result

        neil Demons Delight · 16/08/2017 at 09:36

        Zorko might get Bugg wouldn't that be something. but I do agree Swans he will get tagged too

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/08/2017 at 21:56

    Like #2 out of those options Rock.

    Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 22:02

    Agree with these wise heads above me Rocksta, go for 2 and trust Rocky can come through for ya.

    Neilsa Demon · 17/08/2017 at 09:44

    must have cover so no. 3

Pete · 15/08/2017 at 21:00

Rank 260
in all 10 finals this week
13 k n 2 trades left

doc laird adams Lloyd hibbard newman
ryan ( hibbard n/a )
danger Mitchell d martin oliver m crouch bont kellly fyfe
greenwood ( witherden cousins n/a )
goldy gawn ( strndraca )
mcrae yeo nank heeney j kennedy dalhoues
burton ( eddy )

thoughts on this week ??

    B rian · 16/08/2017 at 16:54

    Congrats Pete, great year. wait for team news but Goldi probably gona get dropped and I wouldn't like to be going into finals with Nank in my team. Id be moving both on.

Don't Blush Baby · 15/08/2017 at 21:05

2,1 & 3 IMO only ,I also have 2 trades with a similar situation and want to have each line covered for any unexpected carnage

    Don't Blush Baby · 15/08/2017 at 21:06

    The above is a reply to Rocksta

    Rocksta · 15/08/2017 at 21:07

    Thanks DBB

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/08/2017 at 21:38

Just got a new S8 phone.
Stuff me this thing is fast!!
And the stuff you can do – mind blowing.
I know not SC related but wow just wow.

Back on track with Neale likely to miss and others missing those teams with trades at the pointy end now in the box seat.

A Stephen Bradbury could come from the clouds.
Be an interesting next couple of weeks.

    Russty_ · 15/08/2017 at 21:58

    Nice pick up Trigger, new technology is always a bit of fun, I'm still rocking an S4 here…lol, as I don't use it for online stuff and prefer a cheap plan, yeah Neale is a bit of a worry…and Sloane for me, could be a crash and burn scenario here, just have to wait and see.

    Swans2012 · 16/08/2017 at 08:10

    Im writing this through the cracked screen of an iPhone 7, not replacing the screen until after sc finals as the way things are going I can see it copping some (more) abuse

      Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 21:44

      Just don't throw the I-phone at the TV Swans, you don't need 2 cracked screens in one go lol

    Tyruddanaut · 16/08/2017 at 20:11

    S8 actually stands for Supercoach-Using-Device-Version 8

jamie · 16/08/2017 at 00:56

Charlie Dixon am i crazy, leaves me more for a replacement. If not billings or heeny?

also is looping j lloyd and L ryan a safeish play for d6??

Derek · 16/08/2017 at 09:01

there is a generation of AFL retiring this season.

the game is fast and furious. The old blokes (except for Silk) just can't keep up. It is a young man's game now, especially supercoach.

    jockreynolds · 16/08/2017 at 09:04

    Spot on Derek – it's why draft picks are as important as they've ever been. Kids bought up with a new style of game

      Tibor · 16/08/2017 at 09:56

      I reckon the more things change the more they stay the same rule applies here Jock. There's always a place for a bloke who wins his own ball. Tom Mitchell could be the must have player of the younger group. Tag doesn't seem to effect him, plays every week, scores well in a middle of the ladder team…consistency……

    Derek · 16/08/2017 at 09:06

    Working on Jock's infamous theory of the supercoach void, there will be need to be some serious research done this pre-season on who is going to fill the gaps left my all the retiring players. The hawks young players, Howe, Burton, hardwick, Sicily showed what happens when you take away birtchell, Stratten, Gibson and frawley.

      Ostrich · 16/08/2017 at 09:47

      Birchell still good enough.

        Ruddigar · 16/08/2017 at 09:58

        Probably gets a game but not if they want to move back up to being a finals contender

          Derek · 16/08/2017 at 10:09

          he didn't play much this year, that gave an opportunity to hardwick. that is what i'm saying, look for the voids created by the retiring players

            Tibor · 16/08/2017 at 18:31

            Great call that works for rookies getting opportunities and good players who have been around a few years ( mid price ), finally getting a role that allows them to bloom well said Derek

              Derek · 16/08/2017 at 19:12

              Players who change clubs to fill a new role, also worth looking at

                Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 19:20

                Yep there were some cracker mid price players in that department this year. Then there's the return from injury lot where diamonds in the rough can be found, at the same time burns can be severe.

Thomas · 16/08/2017 at 09:11

Hey community,
So sadly, this season is coming to a close. This was my first season that i took supercoach seriously and surprised myself by being inside the top 4000 atm and playing in 6 finals this week. Would like to thank the community for all your words of wisdom, played a pivotal role in my ranking and i throughly enjoyed each and every post on this website.

I am wanting to plan for next year and was wondering how i should start. I want to do a full supercoach pre season and not sure how i should go about it. Thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers community

    SC_Kev7 · 16/08/2017 at 09:33

    Congrats on your year, Thomas! Brilliant stuff. Preseason kicks off around December on this site, so stay tuned. There will be player reviews for 2018 and some awesome supercoach wisdom from the best minds in the business.

    Be sure to get amongst the comments too. Some real nuggets of gold can be found

    neil Demons Delight · 16/08/2017 at 09:54

    Congrats on a wonderful year Thomas. I think the one big tool you need is Jocks Magazine believe me don't hesitate full of vital imfo by many on this site. Second is definitely watch your trades look at whats happening now … don't ever be trigger happy and give your rookies time 2 bad games doesn't mean the chop and above all be wary of the flavour of the month mitch hannan comes to mind.Thirdly make sure you have plenty of DPP Cover on all lines including rucks I chose Soldo late when Strd would have saved me. Have all your info on hand to make critical decisions early there are some in my book that have a big red line thru them this early..Rance Treloar Pendles ablett .Jpk Franklin and yes I do expect criticism on some of these but not in my team ever good luck my friend

      Derek · 16/08/2017 at 16:52

      i always look forward to seeing Higgos analysis of his team and the good/bad trades he made, and also the analysis of the winners team and see what set them apart this year.

      spend the early pre-season working on your structure and game plan, the names can be fitted in later. set a few guidelines IE: will not pick a player who is an injury waiting to happen. Must do Full pre-season etc.

      dan · 16/08/2017 at 18:39

      Absolutely sound advice. No line through Heater ? Thought he would be no 1 no go in future.

      Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 19:08

      Problem is you also have to put the previous year behind you or you can end up burning yourself.

      Ie JPK might have the preseason of his career in 2018 and be a good price.

      You might pay top dollar for some success stories of 2017 yet they crash and burn next year. Leaving you low on cash and trades.

      Every year is a new conundrum and whilst you take data from the last a heck of a lot can change as we've seen.

Shake n bake · 16/08/2017 at 10:45

This is my midfield Fyfe Parker Merrett Heppell Wines Mitchell Bont Treloar & Ebert thinking trade Ebert to Danger but then who do l bench?? My other trade if l do it is Lynch to Pederson just want to see how Greenwood goes Friday night 1st.

    neil Demons Delight · 16/08/2017 at 11:26

    got to be either treloar or wines who was lucky Pederson looks really good pod choice only problem is they want Watts in who also gives a contest in the ruck maybe there is room for both

      JohndJames · 16/08/2017 at 17:28

      You would think we have to keep Cam.in the team after last week Neil.

TheGreatBozza · 16/08/2017 at 12:45

I'd like to see Jock Reynolds create a Supercoach hall of fame. Recognise some of those players who were great servants of our supercoach sides. It will be a chance to recognise some of the supercoach stalwarts over the years. Some of the past superstars that come to mind are Chad Cornes, Scott Thompson, Joel Bowden, Dean Cox, Alan Didak, Heath Scotland, Stevie J… I could go on

    Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 19:12

    You could help my friend!

    What SC parameters would you think suitable for the hall of fame? I'm thinking something like 8 seasons of 90+ averaging 🙂

      TheGreatBozza · 16/08/2017 at 19:20

      I'd need to dig through the history books to find a solid bench mark. 8 years of 90+ is a remarkable effort however. I think even the players who can string together 2-4 seasons for 115+ deserve recognition

        Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 19:22

        Yeah 8 is a stretch. It is a hall of fame though. Maybe 5 years of 100+ throughout their career.

Big G · 16/08/2017 at 13:46

Lachie Neale out.

    INPieman · 16/08/2017 at 14:32


      Big G · 16/08/2017 at 15:11

      A whole year potentially down the drain for me. Oh well.

        Derek · 16/08/2017 at 16:58

        except for JPK, Selwood, Wingard injuries, i've actually been pretty lucky over the last few weeks…. it was just a pity i was 2,000 points behind.

        just goes to show, you need plenty of luck in this game.

          Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 19:02

          Absolutely. Feels like it's becoming far more reliant on luck sadly.

Dave2008 · 16/08/2017 at 15:27

In p final 4 trades left and 94 500 in the bank.
Need to trade Grundy and Selwood
A Kreuzer Gibbs

B S Martin J Kelly

    JohndJames · 16/08/2017 at 17:10


    JDP · 16/08/2017 at 17:54

    Def A

    Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 18:57

    Kruezer and Rockliff?

      Dave2008 · 17/08/2017 at 00:36

      Kreuzer by far best ruck option but Gibbs has been up and down lately. Rocky can go large but is more risky. Martin is up against Gawn. Ok so how about A Kreuzer and Rocky
      B Martin and Kelly ?
      Thanks !

Joshua · 16/08/2017 at 15:54

With one trade left and Neale out this week should I trade Neale out or cover with Witherden? (Assuming he plays)

    B rian · 16/08/2017 at 16:31

    Trade Neale and loophole witherden with maybe Greenwood if you have him. Leave nothing in the tank this week

      Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 18:57


    Cogla13 · 16/08/2017 at 19:31

    Neale probably out only 1 week. If Witherden named I'd hold for possible forced trades next week.

    Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 21:54

    How much cash do you have Josh?…can you get Matt Crouch?…if you can, I'd do it, risk it for the biscuit.

      Joshua · 17/08/2017 at 00:03

      Haha I wish

Joshua · 16/08/2017 at 16:52

Parker, Murphy, Merrett or Beams?

    JohndJames · 16/08/2017 at 17:25

    I like Beams,but Parker is also a go.

JohndJames · 16/08/2017 at 17:24

In six Preliminary Finals,normally don't ask questions,just comment,but need advice this time round,have two trades left,do I use those to improve the team now,or wait a week,hoping I make a few GF. The trades that I am thinking of are Ryan to Hurley and Parsons to Howard.Both Ryan and Parsons are on the bench at the moment.

    TheGreatBozza · 16/08/2017 at 18:21

    Id wait a week and go bang bang in your GF. Are you comfortable in getting a few wins with your current line up?

      JohndJames · 16/08/2017 at 21:10

      Been happy with my team for a while now,I'm projected to win all 6,but that can change if my opponents still have trades up their sleeves.I wasn't going to trade till next week,then I thought what if I lose,I'll feel a bit stupid,still having the two trades left.I guess I should just back my team in,it's gotten me this far.

    Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 18:53

    I'd probably trade myself.

    B rian · 16/08/2017 at 19:14

    Don't trade before Friday. Let the weekend unfold and see how you are going. Id be leaning towards trading especially if it gives you loophole options. But if you don't need to trade to win then don't.

      JohndJames · 16/08/2017 at 21:14

      I might leave the powder dry see how I'm going,then if I'm winning leave it.Like you said ''if you don't need to trade to win then don't''.

    Cogla13 · 16/08/2017 at 19:29

    Keep at least 1 trade for next week and as mentioned above don't trade until the last possible moment this round.

    Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 23:36

    Gotta say John, I think trading in Howard would be a mistake….can you get Hurley without trading Howard in?
    Just do one this week if it means guaranteed extra points…Howard doesn't guarantee you anything.

      JohndJames · 17/08/2017 at 00:42

      Yes I can Russty,will have $12,000 still left over if I just do the Ryan to Hurley trade,had wanted to trade Newman instead but didn't have the cash.Still undecided since you would expect Ryan to do a lot better this week.Tempted to just sit on my hands and see what happens.I was looking at Howard for his ruck/fwd and being better cover than bloody Parsons who if I'd had enough trades would have gone weeks ago,but yes it would be a waste of a trade.

JDP · 16/08/2017 at 17:45

Need to trade Neale with last trade:

Do I go to Parker or Hurley via DPP

Thanks in advance

    GJS · 16/08/2017 at 19:11

    Why? Is neale injured?

      GJS · 16/08/2017 at 19:13

      It OK- just saw the earlier comments about being rested for soreness

Tough Year · 16/08/2017 at 17:54

I have Neale, Selwood and Lynch on bench just scrapping home.

Tough Yera · 16/08/2017 at 17:57

Thoughts on Sicily for next year?

    Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 19:01

    Sadly he could peak in price heavily just at season's end making him expensive next year.

      Derek · 16/08/2017 at 19:10

      Next year price is based purely on average, not ending price

        Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 19:17

        Well then that changes my perspective after checking his current average. Probably a lock for mine bar any preseason mishaps.

    neil Demons Delight · 16/08/2017 at 19:46

    The Hawks could provide us with a lot of talent I am bullish about Tim Obrien and tich as well as sicily Cousins a chance too

    Tibor · 16/08/2017 at 19:57

    Has looked ok as a defender but no guarantee what his role may be. It might be a harsh and early call but I have some flog factor concerns re Sicily. Kept well in check by some experienced heads around him but shows some real mega flog potential going forward

      Whatyasmokin · 17/08/2017 at 18:51


Danger and Doch · 16/08/2017 at 18:30

Suggestions for future SC. One crack at captain. Whoever brings the ball back in after a behind, does not score anything till AFTER he has disposed of the ball…call it the Doch rule…..no more cheap kicks to self and a follow up easy disposal. Thoughts.

    Whatyasmokin · 16/08/2017 at 18:51

    Captain's Loophole is fine imo although they may as well just let you pick two players without doing the non playing loophole crap.

    Only having one captain option is just going to add to the 'pot luck' scoring we are witnessing this year.

    Not sure if I'm keen on dropping points for players kicking out either as it's an integral part of the game and a big responsibility. Supercoach is based on scoring for a player's true impact on the game.

    The player kicking out doesn't get points if they don't kick it to themselves though which is an issue they may need to address.

    All players should be scored for one kick out regardless of having kicked to themselves prior, but perhaps at half the amount of a regular kick out of defense.

    That way it would open up possibilities for more defenders to choose from and not such a large gap between those who kick out and those who don't.

      Tyruddanaut · 16/08/2017 at 20:05

      The disposal should not be awarded after a kick out unless he plays on. Often 15+ Behinds are kicked in a game and if a team has a pure full back that's an extra 45 points a game

Crippa · 16/08/2017 at 18:41

Is there still a site leaking trades left?

Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 21:46

Harley Bennell's playing this week….whoopee, who cares lol

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 16/08/2017 at 22:10

    Time for a Harley ride

      Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 22:12

      He'll probably get drunk before the game and punch someone in a nightclub and then get homesick and return to whatever shitehole he came from lol

      Steeeve · 17/08/2017 at 00:00

      Since I'm choosing between Nick Reiwoldt or Higgins for my Tom Lynch injury trade, Bennell might almost be worth the risk!

    Whatyasmokin · 17/08/2017 at 18:50

    Could be a good pick if in the forward line next year.

nathan · 16/08/2017 at 21:52

Got 945k to bring in 2 forwards?

current forwards are macrae dahl franklin heeney

    Jamie · 17/08/2017 at 08:14

    Billings? I'm also in a similar dilemma

John · 16/08/2017 at 22:02

Grundy for Kreuzer or Ryder? Was thinking Ryder because he has an easier run, thoughts?

    Russty_ · 16/08/2017 at 22:09

    Kreuzer's averaging more, overall, 3 round and 5 round averages, go for the big gun.

    Better to go for the best points scorer rather than save a few bucks and lose this week.

    Whatyasmokin · 17/08/2017 at 18:49

    Kruezer for sure. Best Ruck in the AFL.

Rivo · 17/08/2017 at 08:25

Jock, your weekly podcasts will be greatly missed as the sc season comes to a close. Intelligent, humorous and spicy.

Like many coaches this season I'm down to no trades and enough injury worries to be looking at a couple of donuts in this weeks knock out finals.

Team here: any suggestions aside from pray to the sc gods???

D: Doc, Laird, Hibberd, Rance, Simpson, Ryan (Witherden, Scharenberg);
M: Danger, Dusty, M.Crouch, Treloar, Neale, Hanners, Sloane, Lloyd, (Jelwood, Bolton, Cousins);
R: Gawn. Martin (Strnadica);
F: Buddy Ryder, Dahl, Heeney, Greenwood, Young (Lynch -GC, Eddy).

Looks like I'm stuffed. Neale out, Sloane doubtful, Bolton unlikely to play.

Community, any options here????

    Neilsa Demon · 17/08/2017 at 09:48

    Aside from praying not much reflect on misspent trades and fix next year at least this is what I am going to do

      Rivo · 17/08/2017 at 11:46

      Thanks. It's been a shocker this season.
      My "Never Again" list is growing….

    neil Demons Delight · 17/08/2017 at 15:28

    6 weeks ago I couldn't fault your team a ripper just goes to show how valuable trades are and I realise you possibly picked one or two up recently but 4 more trades would be great c u next year Rivo

Paul · 17/08/2017 at 09:46

Merrett or Zorko for Neale?

    Whatyasmokin · 17/08/2017 at 18:48


neil Demons Delight · 17/08/2017 at 10:16

My best pick up this year was either Oliver or Witts and the worst take your pick Treloar Jpk Rance Dahlhouse wallis

neil Demons Delight · 17/08/2017 at 10:32

I hope Melbourne people are reading this That garbage about trading Weideman and Brayshaw for Kelly please tell me this is made up bull No doubt we would love him but remember we got Tyson and Salem for him and I reckon that was good . About the only player dispensable in my opinion is Spencer

    JohndJames · 17/08/2017 at 13:05

    No way that would happen Neil,I'd have Brayshaw over Kelly any day of the week,plus Kelly has a bit of 'big head' about him.Where did you hear it from Neil ? it has to be bullshit,we love Angus as a person and player,no way we would put him up as a trade,not sure why we would even want Kelly.

      neil Demons Delight · 17/08/2017 at 13:31

      don't know why my comment didn't go thru I will leave out the language apparently on afl site Weidemans good value too not an inside but we need an outside mid

    Tibor · 17/08/2017 at 17:29

    It's in an article on the AFL website but it is only an opinion piece about each clubs "dream trades" and the contributors to the alleged dream trades are just any tom dick or harry who has put forward a thought.. This piece of nonsense came from some muppet in Upwey called Stefan….

    Please restrict your idiotic ideas to talk back radio stef….

GarryOwen · 17/08/2017 at 16:05

2 trades & 15k in the bank
GAJ & Selwood the obvious trade out but have a "problem" in that I may have 8 defenders will play (hence no loophole)
DEF: Adams, Laird, Shaw, Hibberd (Melb), Lloyd, Newman (Ryan & S/Berg)
MID: Danger, Dusty, Bont, TMitch, Hanners, Fyfe, GAJ, J Selwood (Witherden, Hibberd (Nth), C Brown)
RUCK: Gawn & Staf (Strndica)
FWD: Maccare, Dahl, Heeney, Yeo, Higgins, Nank (Greenwood, Bayouk).

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

    B rian · 17/08/2017 at 16:41

    Sub Lloyd into midfield for Hibberd

Gary · 17/08/2017 at 19:54

2 trades & 529,300k in the bank
Probably need to get Danger in whom do I trade out – will keep 1 trade for next week if I am lucky enough to get through this week. Any thoughts?
DEF: Adams, Laird, Docherty, Tuhoy, Lloyd, JJ (Ryan & Mcneice)
MID: Dusty, Bont, TMitch, Hanners, Fyfe, Merret, Witherden, (Bolton,Mountford, Cousins)
RUCK: Gawn & Staf (Strndica)
FWD: Maccare, Dahl, Heeney, Yeo, Buddy, Greenwood, (Eddy,Bayok).

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

    johnny · 17/08/2017 at 20:35

    Surely Witherden out for danger, leaving yourself a bit of cash to go to the best player possible for next week

    Russty_ · 17/08/2017 at 22:56

    Yeah Get Danger or Duncan…why don't you already have Danger btw?

      Gary · 17/08/2017 at 23:23

      Traded him out when he was suspended for league win. Had 5 trades at that point and got me over the line.
      Might upgrade Greenwood to Ryder next week provided no injuries.

        Nifty · 17/08/2017 at 23:44

        Your missing another mid Gary..

johnny · 17/08/2017 at 20:33

Got 80k in the bank, who should I bring in for J Selwood (474k) ?

And Witherden or Ryan on the field?


    Russty_ · 18/08/2017 at 02:32

    Hard to answer without knowing who you already have, for 553 K here's some suggestions…
    Rocky for a cheapy boom or buster.

    And I'd go Witherden onfield over Ryan, just in case Ryan is playing injured and not telling anyone…crap score last week.

      johnny · 18/08/2017 at 09:48

      I've got danger, dusty, titch, oliver, bont, beams, fyfe, jelwood in the mids

      was looking at merrett with two easy games left, gold coast and freo, but his form hasn't been great of late so not sure

      Ballsnall · 18/08/2017 at 14:36

      Witherden is not a DEFINATE starter yet. Anyway I am starting Ryan because most Freo players had a bad day.

    dan · 18/08/2017 at 07:16

    I had Ryan on the field last week over shaw…lost by 7 🙁

Bells · 18/08/2017 at 11:53

Great year Jock, Higgo and Crouching.
Next year consider the preseason book as electronic only. We can read it on our phones and tablets no probs. Save the trees too. Increase the price by half the cost of postage to make yourselves a bit of cash.
Also – I reckon you should charge for premo content on your website. $20 for the season, or $5 a month or something.
We want you guys to stay in the game and make some dollars doing it.
And bugger off the gambling promos if you can afford to.

Just my opinon as a big fan.
Thanks again for your great podcasts and great Supercoach community.

    Moosehead · 18/08/2017 at 14:34

    I endorse that Bells. I would rather pay Jock than SC gold which in my opinion is not value for money.

Dave2008 · 18/08/2017 at 15:08

A Docherty and Gunston

B Roberton and McRae

Thanks !

Paul · 18/08/2017 at 18:03

D: Doch, adams,laird, roberton, lloyd, hibberd (Glass and Guthrie)
M: Danger, dusty, mitchell, crouch, bont, kelly, fyfe, Treloar (Witherden, Cousins, Atley)
R: Martin & Gawn
F: Macrae, Buddy, Dahl, T.Lynch, JJKennedy, Greenwood (Young, Eddy)

Have 2 trades left, $46,800 left and need to win to make it to GF

Appreciate your advice

    Paul · 18/08/2017 at 18:05

    Should I trade or should I hold – Dilemma

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 19/08/2017 at 21:54

So that is why Pickett was a 1st rd draft pick!
Was wondering. Lad had a good night.

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