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PODCAST: Supercoach Finals Week 3

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SuperCoach Finals Week 2

PRELIM FINAL TIME FOR THE LUCKY ONES..

A time of reflection and planning for the future for others.
We look at some moistening trade in options this week. We look towards 2018. We prime ourselves for this Sunday’s community contest (Fremantle v Richmond this week)
Enjoy friends, thanks as always for your support. See you in the comments.

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Imgonnalose

Thanks for the cracking, crutchular area stimulisation this year boys! And to the community – good luck to everyone for the next 2 weeks and your Pre season research!

My question: I have 945000 to spend on a mid and a fwd, who do I go with?

Imgonnalose

Make that 938700

FCAbel

Bennell and zorko or Billings and rocky

Tim

Listening to Crouching, Jock and Higgo. How good ? you're the best

Joshua

Is Neale a goner? Of course when I trade him in 🙁

Cogla13

I am hearing he might miss the last 2 games, he's been playing sore.

Russty_

What's your source?, I didn't see it anywhere.

Joshua
Russty_

Oh ok cheers Josh, strange how there's no mention of this on the AFL website or the Herald Sun site.

Stirlsy

Ill watch news ross will tell all he on in 20mins

Russty_

Thanks Stirlsy.

Stirlsy

OK Russty this is what the Boss just said about Neale, yes i heard that going around this morning and i spoke to him and he is sore and shouldn't have played on the weekend.
He will have an easy week and see how he comes up for this week but hasn't been ruled out for this week or the week after.
And more tomoz as the man himself is on news tomorrow nite, might get a better answer then.
Hope that's some help Russty but we are talking Freo hardest team to get much out of.

Russty_

Cheers Stirlsy, you're a gentleman mate, Hope Neale can lift himself to see out the last few games to play for some pride, bit of a bummer how the general public are always the last ones to know, if I'd known about this, I wouldn't have brought him in, as I'm sure Josh wouldn't have.

Thanks again mate.

Stirlsy

Anytime…..Neale is on news tomorrow night so ill leave that msg here also.

Hubba

This is not good news to me…

Swans2012

No Neale will make things……interesting…..I mean that in a horrified bad sort of way……

Russty_

Yup…sure will!….I'm hoping he just opts to see the season out, and then gets his issues taken care of, rather than sitting the rest of it out.

Stirlsy

As you have probably read he is out this week hopes to be able to play last game. But he will require surgery on both groins at end of season so hard to see any reason he plays again this year IMO.

Russty_

Dangit!….thanks for the news Stirlsy, haven't had a chance to check today, cheers mate.

Swans2012

Neale and Selwood to trade with one trade left…….interesting….I guess its hold Neale and hope…..

Russty_

How much cash Swans?…can you get an ultra-premo trading Selwood? otherwise, maybe trade Neale…give yourself the best chance of winning.

Swans2012

Yeah it's a tough call, no cash but I can swing Lloyd in for cover for one of them and still have rookie loophole options for what they are worth, just thinking if there is a chance Neale plays next week then he'd be best to hold, but as stated above I can't see any benefit that'd make freo play him next week.

Good Times

Farewell Golden Oldies
Scott Thompson
Jobe Watson
Steve Johnson
Josh Gibson
Luke Hodge
Ivan Maric
Nick Riewoldt
Sam Mitchell
Matt Priddis
Matthew Boyd
Robert Murphy

Russty_

Add James Kelly too, he was one of the good ones at Geelong for awhile.

Smote

See ya later and thanks for the memories Zac Dawson.

Hubba

Wonder will Sandi retire?

Paule

NEED HELP!!!
this is my team, I have 2 trades left and want to use em this week to get into the final of my cash league at work. What to do?

DEF: S.Docherty, T.Adams, J.Lloyd, M.Hibberd, N.Newman, H.Shaw, L.Ryan, B.McNiece

MID: P.Dangerfield, T.Mitchell, M.Bontempelli, M.Murphy, R.Slone, D.Heppell, T.Rockliff, S.Selwood, D.Myers, D.Mountford, S.Bolton

RUC: S.Mumford, M.Gawn, T.Nankervis

FOR: E.Yeo, L.Franklin, L.Dahlaus, JSteele, I.Heeney, H.Greenwood, J.Stewart, L.Strnadica

Only have $41,300 in the bank. The wisdom of the community would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your help.

Imgonnalose

Why don't you have Macrae??? The only forward you need
Nank to Macrae and greenwood to a rookie

Paule

not enough cash

Paule

whoops. Looking into it now. Cheers

Rocksta

Nank to Soldo, Myers to Beams or Zerrett.

Welcome

Paule

OK so I'm thinking of a bit of a shark move. let me know what you think? Trade out Greenwood and Ryan for Laird and Brayshaw.

Paule

and moved Nank forward

redherringfc

The risk with those trades is that the guys you are trading out are a good chance to outscore the ones you are moving in. Bradshaw only scored 91 and from watching the game he slowed a lot in the 2nd half. 2nd game back can be well below the first. Laird has not been great lately.

I'd go with one up and one down. Nank almost certainly is the 1st to go, put Strnadica in the ruck, bring in a cheapy. I'd probably bring in Hurley for one of the defenders, Newman for mine.

If you want to roll the dice pick a key position forward who is cheap and might kick a bag.

Stirlsy

Congrats Higgo on yr DRAFTSTARS win. Not far away Jock yr turn will come.

hedski

Scored $2.75 on the weekend Stirlsy…bang.

Stirlsy

2.60 for me another lolly pop coming my way. Did you see Gator's big win on Sunday?

hedski

Yeah mate, great collect. Gotta get me some.

ahmad rubas

whats the better trade bring in martin in my midfield because my opponent has him and i can cover his score if he goes massive or bring in crouch who my opponent doesnt have

Paule

tigers V Freo or Crows V Swans I reckon Dusty will go large.

Russty_

I'd go Crouch Ahmad…mr consistency!

Tyruddanaut

Which retirees were better? This years or 2007s? 2007 had Archer, Hird, Kouta, Bucks, and more that I can't name off the top of my head

Derek

I'm fearing a fremantle press conference…………… will Zac Dawson retire this season? I'll be devastated.

Derek

Gibbo and Bob added to the list.

Don't Blush Baby

Just looking at the injury list on the AFL site it happens every year where the teams that are in contention have the least amount of significant injuries

Rocksta

Ok, this is doing my head in. 2 trades left going into a prelim this week. Do I:

1) Jelwood to Dusty/Matt Crouch and Ryan to Grimes( will be bench cover). This will leave me with no cover in the fwd line.
2) Jelwood to Rocky and Goldy to Heeney via Ryder into Ruck. Leaves me with cover on all lines
3) Jelwood to Sloane and Goldy to Wallis via Ryder into Ruck. Leaves me with cover on all lines.

Help desperately needed.

Swans2012

2. Better to prepare for the worst…… and rocky and Heeney score more than wallis and Sloane from here imo

I'm considering similar problems although the potential for Neale out may change things

neil Demons Delight

no 2 but not sure on Rocky will get the vince tag this week would go m crouch

Swans2012

I think Zorko gets that tag?

Swans2012

Or even beams or rich ahead of current form rocky?

Derek

for a moment there, i thought you were saying to pick Rich…….. phew.

neil Demons Delight

Zorko might get Bugg wouldn't that be something. but I do agree Swans he will get tagged too

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Like #2 out of those options Rock.

Russty_

Agree with these wise heads above me Rocksta, go for 2 and trust Rocky can come through for ya.

Pete

Rank 260
in all 10 finals this week
13 k n 2 trades left

doc laird adams Lloyd hibbard newman
ryan ( hibbard n/a )
danger Mitchell d martin oliver m crouch bont kellly fyfe
greenwood ( witherden cousins n/a )
goldy gawn ( strndraca )
mcrae yeo nank heeney j kennedy dalhoues
burton ( eddy )

thoughts on this week ??

B rian

Congrats Pete, great year. wait for team news but Goldi probably gona get dropped and I wouldn't like to be going into finals with Nank in my team. Id be moving both on.

Don't Blush Baby

2,1 & 3 IMO only ,I also have 2 trades with a similar situation and want to have each line covered for any unexpected carnage

Rocksta

Thanks DBB

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Just got a new S8 phone.
Stuff me this thing is fast!!
And the stuff you can do – mind blowing.
I know not SC related but wow just wow.

Back on track with Neale likely to miss and others missing those teams with trades at the pointy end now in the box seat.

A Stephen Bradbury could come from the clouds.
Be an interesting next couple of weeks.

Russty_

Nice pick up Trigger, new technology is always a bit of fun, I'm still rocking an S4 here…lol, as I don't use it for online stuff and prefer a cheap plan, yeah Neale is a bit of a worry…and Sloane for me, could be a crash and burn scenario here, just have to wait and see.

Swans2012

Im writing this through the cracked screen of an iPhone 7, not replacing the screen until after sc finals as the way things are going I can see it copping some (more) abuse

Russty_

Just don't throw the I-phone at the TV Swans, you don't need 2 cracked screens in one go lol

Tyruddanaut

S8 actually stands for Supercoach-Using-Device-Version 8

jamie

Charlie Dixon am i crazy, leaves me more for a replacement. If not billings or heeny?

also is looping j lloyd and L ryan a safeish play for d6??

Derek

there is a generation of AFL retiring this season.

the game is fast and furious. The old blokes (except for Silk) just can't keep up. It is a young man's game now, especially supercoach.

Derek

Working on Jock's infamous theory of the supercoach void, there will be need to be some serious research done this pre-season on who is going to fill the gaps left my all the retiring players. The hawks young players, Howe, Burton, hardwick, Sicily showed what happens when you take away birtchell, Stratten, Gibson and frawley.

Shake n bake

This is my midfield Fyfe Parker Merrett Heppell Wines Mitchell Bont Treloar & Ebert thinking trade Ebert to Danger but then who do l bench?? My other trade if l do it is Lynch to Pederson just want to see how Greenwood goes Friday night 1st.

neil Demons Delight

got to be either treloar or wines who was lucky Pederson looks really good pod choice only problem is they want Watts in who also gives a contest in the ruck maybe there is room for both

JohndJames

You would think we have to keep Cam.in the team after last week Neil.

TheGreatBozza

I'd like to see Jock Reynolds create a Supercoach hall of fame. Recognise some of those players who were great servants of our supercoach sides. It will be a chance to recognise some of the supercoach stalwarts over the years. Some of the past superstars that come to mind are Chad Cornes, Scott Thompson, Joel Bowden, Dean Cox, Alan Didak, Heath Scotland, Stevie J… I could go on

Whatyasmokin

You could help my friend!

What SC parameters would you think suitable for the hall of fame? I'm thinking something like 8 seasons of 90+ averaging 🙂

TheGreatBozza

I'd need to dig through the history books to find a solid bench mark. 8 years of 90+ is a remarkable effort however. I think even the players who can string together 2-4 seasons for 115+ deserve recognition

Whatyasmokin

Yeah 8 is a stretch. It is a hall of fame though. Maybe 5 years of 100+ throughout their career.

Big G

Lachie Neale out.

INPieman

Shit

Big G

A whole year potentially down the drain for me. Oh well.

Derek

except for JPK, Selwood, Wingard injuries, i've actually been pretty lucky over the last few weeks…. it was just a pity i was 2,000 points behind.

just goes to show, you need plenty of luck in this game.

Whatyasmokin

Absolutely. Feels like it's becoming far more reliant on luck sadly.

Dave2008

In p final 4 trades left and 94 500 in the bank.
Need to trade Grundy and Selwood
A Kreuzer Gibbs

B S Martin J Kelly

JohndJames

A

Whatyasmokin

Kruezer and Rockliff?

Dave2008

Kreuzer by far best ruck option but Gibbs has been up and down lately. Rocky can go large but is more risky. Martin is up against Gawn. Ok so how about A Kreuzer and Rocky
B Martin and Kelly ?
Thanks !

Joshua

With one trade left and Neale out this week should I trade Neale out or cover with Witherden? (Assuming he plays)

B rian

Trade Neale and loophole witherden with maybe Greenwood if you have him. Leave nothing in the tank this week

Whatyasmokin

Agreed

Cogla13

Neale probably out only 1 week. If Witherden named I'd hold for possible forced trades next week.

Russty_

How much cash do you have Josh?…can you get Matt Crouch?…if you can, I'd do it, risk it for the biscuit.

Joshua

Haha I wish

Joshua

Parker, Murphy, Merrett or Beams?

JohndJames

I like Beams,but Parker is also a go.

JohndJames

In six Preliminary Finals,normally don't ask questions,just comment,but need advice this time round,have two trades left,do I use those to improve the team now,or wait a week,hoping I make a few GF. The trades that I am thinking of are Ryan to Hurley and Parsons to Howard.Both Ryan and Parsons are on the bench at the moment.

TheGreatBozza

Id wait a week and go bang bang in your GF. Are you comfortable in getting a few wins with your current line up?

JohndJames

Been happy with my team for a while now,I'm projected to win all 6,but that can change if my opponents still have trades up their sleeves.I wasn't going to trade till next week,then I thought what if I lose,I'll feel a bit stupid,still having the two trades left.I guess I should just back my team in,it's gotten me this far.

Whatyasmokin

I'd probably trade myself.

B rian

Don't trade before Friday. Let the weekend unfold and see how you are going. Id be leaning towards trading especially if it gives you loophole options. But if you don't need to trade to win then don't.

JohndJames

I might leave the powder dry see how I'm going,then if I'm winning leave it.Like you said ''if you don't need to trade to win then don't''.

Cogla13

Keep at least 1 trade for next week and as mentioned above don't trade until the last possible moment this round.

Russty_

Gotta say John, I think trading in Howard would be a mistake….can you get Hurley without trading Howard in?
Just do one this week if it means guaranteed extra points…Howard doesn't guarantee you anything.

JohndJames

Yes I can Russty,will have $12,000 still left over if I just do the Ryan to Hurley trade,had wanted to trade Newman instead but didn't have the cash.Still undecided since you would expect Ryan to do a lot better this week.Tempted to just sit on my hands and see what happens.I was looking at Howard for his ruck/fwd and being better cover than bloody Parsons who if I'd had enough trades would have gone weeks ago,but yes it would be a waste of a trade.

JDP

Need to trade Neale with last trade:

Do I go to Parker or Hurley via DPP

Thanks in advance

GJS

Why? Is neale injured?

GJS

It OK- just saw the earlier comments about being rested for soreness

Tough Year

I have Neale, Selwood and Lynch on bench just scrapping home.

Tough Yera

Thoughts on Sicily for next year?

Whatyasmokin

Sadly he could peak in price heavily just at season's end making him expensive next year.

Derek

Next year price is based purely on average, not ending price

Whatyasmokin

Well then that changes my perspective after checking his current average. Probably a lock for mine bar any preseason mishaps.

neil Demons Delight

The Hawks could provide us with a lot of talent I am bullish about Tim Obrien and tich as well as sicily Cousins a chance too

Danger and Doch

Suggestions for future SC. One crack at captain. Whoever brings the ball back in after a behind, does not score anything till AFTER he has disposed of the ball…call it the Doch rule…..no more cheap kicks to self and a follow up easy disposal. Thoughts.

Whatyasmokin

Captain's Loophole is fine imo although they may as well just let you pick two players without doing the non playing loophole crap.

Only having one captain option is just going to add to the 'pot luck' scoring we are witnessing this year.

Not sure if I'm keen on dropping points for players kicking out either as it's an integral part of the game and a big responsibility. Supercoach is based on scoring for a player's true impact on the game.

The player kicking out doesn't get points if they don't kick it to themselves though which is an issue they may need to address.

All players should be scored for one kick out regardless of having kicked to themselves prior, but perhaps at half the amount of a regular kick out of defense.

That way it would open up possibilities for more defenders to choose from and not such a large gap between those who kick out and those who don't.

Tyruddanaut

The disposal should not be awarded after a kick out unless he plays on. Often 15+ Behinds are kicked in a game and if a team has a pure full back that's an extra 45 points a game

Crippa

Is there still a site leaking trades left?

Russty_

Harley Bennell's playing this week….whoopee, who cares lol

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Time for a Harley ride

Russty_

He'll probably get drunk before the game and punch someone in a nightclub and then get homesick and return to whatever shitehole he came from lol

Whatyasmokin

Could be a good pick if in the forward line next year.

nathan

Got 945k to bring in 2 forwards?

current forwards are macrae dahl franklin heeney

Jamie

Billings? I'm also in a similar dilemma

John

Grundy for Kreuzer or Ryder? Was thinking Ryder because he has an easier run, thoughts?

Russty_

Kreuzer's averaging more, overall, 3 round and 5 round averages, go for the big gun.

Better to go for the best points scorer rather than save a few bucks and lose this week.

Whatyasmokin

Kruezer for sure. Best Ruck in the AFL.

Rivo

Jock, your weekly podcasts will be greatly missed as the sc season comes to a close. Intelligent, humorous and spicy.

Like many coaches this season I'm down to no trades and enough injury worries to be looking at a couple of donuts in this weeks knock out finals.

Team here: any suggestions aside from pray to the sc gods???

D: Doc, Laird, Hibberd, Rance, Simpson, Ryan (Witherden, Scharenberg);
M: Danger, Dusty, M.Crouch, Treloar, Neale, Hanners, Sloane, Lloyd, (Jelwood, Bolton, Cousins);
R: Gawn. Martin (Strnadica);
F: Buddy Ryder, Dahl, Heeney, Greenwood, Young (Lynch -GC, Eddy).

Looks like I'm stuffed. Neale out, Sloane doubtful, Bolton unlikely to play.

Community, any options here????

neil Demons Delight

6 weeks ago I couldn't fault your team a ripper just goes to show how valuable trades are and I realise you possibly picked one or two up recently but 4 more trades would be great c u next year Rivo

Paul

Merrett or Zorko for Neale?

Whatyasmokin

Merrett.

neil Demons Delight

My best pick up this year was either Oliver or Witts and the worst take your pick Treloar Jpk Rance Dahlhouse wallis

neil Demons Delight

I hope Melbourne people are reading this That garbage about trading Weideman and Brayshaw for Kelly please tell me this is made up bull No doubt we would love him but remember we got Tyson and Salem for him and I reckon that was good . About the only player dispensable in my opinion is Spencer

JohndJames

No way that would happen Neil,I'd have Brayshaw over Kelly any day of the week,plus Kelly has a bit of 'big head' about him.Where did you hear it from Neil ? it has to be bullshit,we love Angus as a person and player,no way we would put him up as a trade,not sure why we would even want Kelly.

neil Demons Delight

don't know why my comment didn't go thru I will leave out the language apparently on afl site Weidemans good value too not an inside but we need an outside mid

GarryOwen

2 trades & 15k in the bank
GAJ & Selwood the obvious trade out but have a "problem" in that I may have 8 defenders will play (hence no loophole)
DEF: Adams, Laird, Shaw, Hibberd (Melb), Lloyd, Newman (Ryan & S/Berg)
MID: Danger, Dusty, Bont, TMitch, Hanners, Fyfe, GAJ, J Selwood (Witherden, Hibberd (Nth), C Brown)
RUCK: Gawn & Staf (Strndica)
FWD: Maccare, Dahl, Heeney, Yeo, Higgins, Nank (Greenwood, Bayouk).

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

B rian

Sub Lloyd into midfield for Hibberd

Gary

2 trades & 529,300k in the bank
Probably need to get Danger in whom do I trade out – will keep 1 trade for next week if I am lucky enough to get through this week. Any thoughts?
DEF: Adams, Laird, Docherty, Tuhoy, Lloyd, JJ (Ryan & Mcneice)
MID: Dusty, Bont, TMitch, Hanners, Fyfe, Merret, Witherden, (Bolton,Mountford, Cousins)
RUCK: Gawn & Staf (Strndica)
FWD: Maccare, Dahl, Heeney, Yeo, Buddy, Greenwood, (Eddy,Bayok).

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

johnny

Surely Witherden out for danger, leaving yourself a bit of cash to go to the best player possible for next week

Russty_

Yeah Get Danger or Duncan…why don't you already have Danger btw?

Gary

Traded him out when he was suspended for league win. Had 5 trades at that point and got me over the line.
Might upgrade Greenwood to Ryder next week provided no injuries.

Nifty

Your missing another mid Gary..

johnny

Got 80k in the bank, who should I bring in for J Selwood (474k) ?

And Witherden or Ryan on the field?

Cheers

Russty_

Hard to answer without knowing who you already have, for 553 K here's some suggestions…
Macrae
Bont
Murphy
Parker
B.Crouch
Beams
Merrett
Ward
coniglio
Sidebum
Gray
Rocky for a cheapy boom or buster.

And I'd go Witherden onfield over Ryan, just in case Ryan is playing injured and not telling anyone…crap score last week.

johnny

I've got danger, dusty, titch, oliver, bont, beams, fyfe, jelwood in the mids

was looking at merrett with two easy games left, gold coast and freo, but his form hasn't been great of late so not sure

dan

I had Ryan on the field last week over shaw…lost by 7 🙁

Bells

Great year Jock, Higgo and Crouching.
Next year consider the preseason book as electronic only. We can read it on our phones and tablets no probs. Save the trees too. Increase the price by half the cost of postage to make yourselves a bit of cash.
Also – I reckon you should charge for premo content on your website. $20 for the season, or $5 a month or something.
We want you guys to stay in the game and make some dollars doing it.
And bugger off the gambling promos if you can afford to.

Just my opinon as a big fan.
Thanks again for your great podcasts and great Supercoach community.

Moosehead

I endorse that Bells. I would rather pay Jock than SC gold which in my opinion is not value for money.

Dave2008

A Docherty and Gunston

B Roberton and McRae

Thanks !

Paul

D: Doch, adams,laird, roberton, lloyd, hibberd (Glass and Guthrie)
M: Danger, dusty, mitchell, crouch, bont, kelly, fyfe, Treloar (Witherden, Cousins, Atley)
R: Martin & Gawn
F: Macrae, Buddy, Dahl, T.Lynch, JJKennedy, Greenwood (Young, Eddy)

Have 2 trades left, $46,800 left and need to win to make it to GF

Appreciate your advice

Paul

Should I trade or should I hold – Dilemma

TRIGGA_HAPPY

So that is why Pickett was a 1st rd draft pick!
Was wondering. Lad had a good night.