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SuperCoach Finals Week 2: FAT CHEW

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A SPECIAL FLY-KICK EDITION OF THE CHEW THIS WEEK.

Dangerfield shapes again as a popular C choice.. interesting to see which way those with Josh Kelly’s 132 SC on the loop go? I’d take it,
Let’s discuss the issues of the SC round in progress – and continue the discussion in tomorrow’s $2 Hawks v North buy-in (70 entries so far, prize pool up to $600.. do the mathematics on that folks!)

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Rowen

Needing a MID and FWD to carry thru till the end. 937k

Mid options: Sloane Gibbs Menegola Hannerbury
Fwd options: Steele Sicily Gunston JJK

Sloane gets tagged next week.
Gibbs likely tagged this week.
Menegola lacks ceiling of others.
Hanners not near 2016 form.

Steele loves a tackle but can go 60ish.
Sicily is ultimate hail-mary.
JJK got 101 from 5, and 97 from 6. Up against Jones.

Thoughts anyone?? I like Sloane this week but need balance of not limiting my chances next week.

Dan

I'm thinking through the same thing with my Mid's at the moment. Could an option be to bring Sloane in, and loop him next week (i.e. see how he goes on Friday night as to whether you keep his score)?

Rowen

Thanks Dan. Yeah, that was the plan…. not sure if I'll end up with anyone to cover him even if he goes terrible next week. Reckon I'm leaving towards Sloane & Steele as the best options

Tyruddanaut

Menegola is a star and will go well without Jelwood in the side. More Mid time.
JJK is on and off so it's a risk, but he'll avg 15 more than those fools

Imgonnalose

Had the exact same problem, and went Sidebottom and Wallis. Thoughts community?

JohndJames

Have the VC on Danger and the C on Mitch,can loop if need be,but will have to be quick since I will have to put Witherden on to the field in time if needed.The carnage of this round just goes to show that no matter how much research you do at the start of the season or how well you manage your trades,nothing can protect you from massive outs like we have experienced this weekend.

Tyruddanaut

Actually, I could've been safe if I traded Dahl to Gawn last week and then waited to get English out for Strndica. Everything wouldve been fine. BUT NOW IM OUT OF TRADES AND EVERYONES INJURED AND I CAN BARELY FIELD 21

Stirlsy

Danger into Gawn for me with vc and C
Opponents both have 22 and one of them can loop so its going to be a challenge with my 21 on the plus side he had Wallis last nite v my Macrae so im up atm.

SC_Kev7

Shoutout to Crouching for the textbook fly kicking lessons he gave Toby. Shouldn't have been done on the field, but credit where it's due

bUCKET__

Macrae y u do dis

INPieman

He chopped it up

Russty_

Him and his whole team were dog poop last night.

GoSainters

Hi All. Thinking of taking Newman off the field to loophole and get Shaw's score. I reckon Ryan and Lloyd (on field) will beat that. Thoughts please community.

neil Demons Delight

Greene is such a flog Gws doesn't need him constantly doing these acts They could really win it with him on song wake up flog

Russty_

He really is the King of Flogs, he seems to have an uncontrollable urge to be a dickhead.
Talented kid though, it's a shame, cause he'll always be known as a hothead flog instead.

matt

ok – had the VC on bont, now trying to decide – danger or dusty for the big C? Normally would just go danger and set and forget, but opponent has the C on dusty, so I'm thinking I should do the same just to neutralise (as I should win otherwise, unless danger spud's it and martin has a ripper)…

Big G

Did Mitch Wallis die in the last half – not one possession for 2 quarters??

Tyruddanaut

Franklin (VC) on track for 200. C'mon, you can do it. I've almost forgotten about Dahlhaus and Macrae.
That reminds me, Bulldogs have too many Midfielders, even Bont has to play forward for most of the game. They need to communicate with the hawks who have to put their forwards eg. Sicily and Rioli in the midfield.

Russty_

Good call on the VC πŸ™‚

Defying_Madness

Everyone who fielded Ryan over Lloyd wouldn't be too happy right now including myself

Russty_

.Freo are getting reamed…you'd think he would've gotten a fair bit of it…disappointing!

Defying_Madness

Yeah it is pretty disappointing

bUCKET__

Took Ryan over Heater on the bench :'(

Russty_

I've got him and Rance…both having bloody shockers, Harry Taylor's killing Rance in the contest.

Defying_Madness

I have Rance also, at this point I just want Ryan to get close to Lloyds score so I don't feel too bad.

bUCKET__

7 scores under 70 at this point for me. I was pretty happy Rance junked it up, he's been my best in def. So much for a fit team haha

neil Demons Delight

Rance is so disappointing really all year like Treloar not sc relevant anymore but none the less a gifted player as is Treloar same could be said for Brown when at Collingwood always one of the first picked but hopeless in sc . Point is these players and Riewolt of tiges are great club people but not for me anymore

Russty_

Agree Neil, I reckon Rance is past his best, Supercoach-wise, he's always been hopeless in scoring in the AFL Fantasy game.
I'll be going with a younger gun next season, maybe not such a 'Renaissance Man' as what Rance apparently is…for someone who focuses more of their energy on actually playing good Footy.

Defying_Madness

Had Heeney, Franklin, Hanners, Fyfe and then Ryan. Would have been perfect if I fielded Lloyd. Thanks for the 32 points Ryan

Keenbutclueless

fielded him over Mills. I am benching Roberton to get Mills 94. Stuck with Ryan's 32. I just know Roberton will go big and make it worse.

Tyruddanaut

I fielded him over Sharenberg and I still feel bad

Russty_

Omg Buddy's goin nuts!…hope you had the VC on him Hedski, could be your get out of jail free card mate πŸ™‚

Derek

Putting out fires all over the place means I've made my last trade and will now finish the season with Darcy at R2. Didn't even manage to finish season at Full Premium.

Anyone play EPL fantasy. Season Starts tonight. Anyone have a league I can join?

Russty_

No offence Derek but the only way I'd watch Soccer is if I was chained to a chair in a torture chamber with toothpicks holding my eyes open.

hedski

Amen to that.

Defying_Madness

Amen

Tyruddanaut

Amen

GloryDays90

Im playing not in a league yet though but will join yours if you have made one?

Joshua

Traded in Neale over Kelly.. Happy he's getting the stinker game out of his system in time for my week off πŸ˜‰

Russty_

Shit mate , you dodged a bullet there…this could be his worst game of the season.

Joshua

Hope this isn't a sign to come and just an anomaly. 44..that is deadly bad

Russty_

Reckon Freo will be playing for some pride next week after this week's destruction…he will do better.

Tyruddanaut

Dodged? He walked straight into it!

Russty_

Yeah dodged, he traded him in, but wasn't playing this week.

Tyruddanaut

Ohh, got ya

Russty_

Good stuff with your Cats mate, hope Tigers lose badly this week and get down on confidence so my Sainters can smoke em next week.

hedski

Rance came good, massive last half to post 90 odd.
Looks like I'll lose my cash semi but never expected to win fielding 20.
Bad feeling about the maggots v cats next week, they just seem to beat us.

Russty_

Yeah GD, he's too inconsistent these days, and will probably start to get regular injuries soon also. He's getting on a bit now.
I'm gonna try to avoid all tall key forwards next season.

BrownlowBoy

Parker instead of Neale πŸ™‚ finally a bit of luck.

Russty_

Looking on the bright side of Ryan's rubbish score…if I combine Buddy's 164 and Ryan's poultry 32, that = 196.
I expected Buddy to maybe get 85 and the same with Ryan, so not too bad really.

Tyruddanaut

I try to do that every round and it means I'm rarely disappointed. For example in the Dogs, GWS game I had Macrae and Dahlhaus but it didn't matter because with Williams, Kelly and the Bont playing they averages about 97 each which is a decent score

ahmad rubas

decided to loophole lloyd and newman this week obviously not taking newman score but what are your thoughts on taking lloyd score or fielding greenwood

Tyruddanaut

Luke Ryan is my hero. Have my babies, Luke

Tyruddanaut

My cats, injured and traded. With every touch Danger gets, I feel worse

hedski

My cats stayed in the top 4.
SC wise have Danger, Tuohy, Jelwood(d'oh).

Tyruddanaut

Going with about 1,000 off 9 incl. Franklin Captain. I just found out that I am actually playing a league game against the Phantom this week and only slightly have the advantage over him.

Crow

i need some motivation guys. I've officially lost the will to continue playing this great game of supercoach. Last year, i was ranked 1st on all 3 of my leagues and made it to the preliminarily finals and my whole team underperformed and all 3 of my opponents teams all scored well above their averages. Same thing is happening again this year. I got beat in the first stage of the finals last week because my opponent only had 1 unique player score under 100 and those that did were all over 110' and some over 140. Then this round has been worse and it's only half way. Last night i had Kelly as VC and thought "yeah, finally got a bit of luck" despite Macraes sub par score, boy was a wrong, check the scores today Ryan 30 points, Parsons another 30 points if he even scored that (also great stroke of luck, reason why i fielded both was because I had all 3 Witherden, Duncan and Merrett) And who did my opponent have ? Neale less than 50 good right? Lol, Franklin over 160, Parker almost 130 and Fyfe over 110 in a team who got beat by almost 100 points and what's funny, i benched Ryan last week who got over 100 and Franklin got 40 odd and now look what's happened. He also had Dangerfield as captain who was seemingly having a quiet day but i knew that he would get a big score. Honestly guys, i am sorry for writing this, but i am just at a point where i've had enough because i don't expect to be the best and i know i am not, but when week after week you get bad luck and players from your opponent who have had bad games all of a sudden hit giant scores, it just makes you wonder "what's the point playing the game when you can't enjoy it anymore".
I just hope that my remaining players have good games and i get just a little bit of luck going my way but i highly doubt it.

Keenbutclueless

I hear you. Playing for league glory can do that to you. I switched my attention to playing for rank. I still enter leagues, but with a focus on rank, it's only my own bad luck or judgement calls that go pear-shaped that upset me. Still play leagues, but far more sanguine about the outcome, and my opponents good luck worries me far less.
One thing this year was Derek started a JR Community Group. Maybe get the same group of players you play in a league with to play in a group instead. It would mean that one match is not so pivotal to the overall result.

hedski

Great call keen, only focus on league when your well back in rankings, wins take care of them selves. I do love my cashies tho.

Crow

So what exactly is the JR community group? It sounds interesting and a lot less stressful. But too sum up the night, i felt good because both my brisbane boys Rocky and Stef, both did me proud but as i predicted, my opponents players Murphy and Kennedy both dominated, and what was more salt to the wound, was that Kennedy was on minus 6 points at quarter time and he ended up getting 120 at the end of the night. So to sum it up im 280 odd points down with Gawn, Ross and Howe against Savage and Treloar, which means unless a miracle happens with late outs by Savage or Treloar highly unlikely or they really spud it up and my players get 130+ or a bit score over 170, im done for. But one thing i am proud of, is that i could potentially still get over 2200 with Duncan and Merrett both out and having to play Parsons and Ryan who only got 30 points each. Something positive that came out of this pathetic round of good fortune.

Russty_

Hey Crow, JR Community group is just like another league mate, an extra league to enter ( with a few thousand players in it) to have a separate ranking from the overall ranking.
Best thing to do for maximum enjoyment is I reckon, don't worry about overall rankings so much as, getting into Leagues with mates or Jock Reynolds players who love Supercoach, so your league is full of players who care about it, and don't abandon or give up on it half way through. Nothing worse than that.

Leagues with good players in it, banter and competive fun is what I love about it…overall ranking comes second.

neil Demons Delight

I am with you Keen.. I play for rank bit like a triathalon really just go for PBs and hope luck is on your side. I DID HOWEVER miss a trip to usa finishing 4th after helping a fallen lady competitor by a stride .They will do it to you.. it is interesting to note that imo the mids premos either won it or lost it..i.e. treloar vs murphy oliver vs swallow cheers Keen

Derek

Jock…. here's another one for you mate.

Tyruddanaut

Next year maybe you should take it less seriously. I was doing very badly one year so I chucked a team together in two seconds, came 60,000 for the year but at least it brought my enjoyment back. There is a competitive nature to this game but it's not designed for competition as much. Out of 200,000 teams on about 3% of us do the research and put time and effort in.
Just play for fun, not to win and maybe your joy will return

Nicko

Panicking. Not sure whether to make this rash decision but I need to win this round.
Original plan was to hold my last trade. Now I'm wondering whether to trade Merrett out for Heppell or Yeo. I currently have Josh Thomas on field.
Other option is to trade out Roo for Nank (already had him), Betts or Burton, and swing Greenwood on field in Mid.
Or just hold and let luck run it's course :/

Dans Donkeys

Hey Guys – awesome column, great advice – haven't posted all year until now – my moment of need!
I need your help to beat a insufferable muppet in my league (aka my boss).
VC is on Danger, I want to take his score (Titch currently captain).
I can put Titch on bench, and loophole in J.Cousins from Hawks, but i also have E on J Selwood – if you have 2 emergencies selected – will it take Selwoods donut, as it takes lowest score in that scenario – or will it take Titch's score, as Selwood isn't playing.

Thanks heaps – you could be helping win the battler for good against evil!

Keenbutclueless

You will get Titch's score.

Dans Donkeys

Thanks guys – awesome news – good luck in your own rounds!

Russty_

Yeah Keen's right Dan…you won't get Selwood's score cause in that situation, you get the lowest bench score if 2 players are playing on the bench..With Selwood not playing, it sees it as only 1 player on your bench.

INPieman

So I get home from torture. Played golf. I see Newman & Ryan combined scored as much as Pickett did last week by himself. WTF!? Even more angry

hedski

A Picket is only good to drive a nail into to make a fence to keep shit pricks like Picket out.

Jim_bob321

Great… Zorko C is working really well!

Russty_

Zorko the Crapnificent has been a bit underwhelming lately.

hedski

Sweet, my opp got him in. Told him not to. Why would he listen to me when he's gonna smash me anyway.

black st. boy

same here jimbob,was proj to win all 3 games by at least 200 but with spudorko capt and heaps under performing im gunna lose all 3.thats with 2 trades and $400k left!!!

B rian

Rocky is on my never again list, But I think im going to get him next week

Russty_

I guess that means he can go onto your never again, with the exception of one time, list πŸ™‚

Sully321

if i have two emergencies in my backline, and one isn't playing will the playing emergency's score count?

Russty_

Yes it will…and well done landing that plane on the Hudson by the way.

Sully321

cheers rusty it wasn't easy but I managed. Tom Hanks did me proud as well πŸ™‚

TOPHAWK1

Coaches who traded in Tom Rockliff last week or this week have been well rewarded. Like I said mid week, the bloke is coming good. And he has. That shoulder is on the mend.125 SC.
At $400K the bloke was a steal.

Coaches who traded in Dayne Zorko at $600K have been rewarded with 78 SC.

Key take out……BUY LOW AND SELL HIGH!

Defying_Madness

Coaches who brought in Beams also would have been well rewarded. I unfortunately didn't bring in either Beams or Rocky and went Gray, time will tell if this was a good move or not. Rocky also got 3 goals which inflated his score but he did look very good today.

TOPHAWK1

I reckon Robbie Gray is a great pick. Also bargain priced, high ceiling, no major injury issues, and can play midfield and forward.

GUN PLAYER

Good luck tomorrow mate.

Defying_Madness

Thanks mate, not looking good so far. He's on 16 points currently midway through the 2nd quarter, hopefully he has a big second half.

Russty_

28 at the half, not too good, hopefully he can kick some sausage rolls and ton up for ya.

Northerner

Well done Hawk. I picked him up as well. $388k mid pricer who can go large. An M9 that covered this week for Ablett and can be looped with Sloane next week. Even if he'd scored 80/90 it would have been a solid trade at this stage of the season with low cash and remaining trades.

TheGreatBozza

One quarter in and I'm regretting not jumping on Matt Crouch to wait for Merrett next week, as Dons have an elite run home. Hopefully my decision to grab Paddy Ryder instesd can make up for it

JohndJames

I agreed you get Crouch in Panic Room.

TheGreatBozza

I should have listened. I was hoping he'd drop a bit and grab him next week. I still can afford to grab him next week, just may be higher in price

JohndJames

He'll be about $10,000 more so no big deal,it's just that you miss out on his points this round,which would have been nice to have.

TheGreatBozza

We'll since I'm in a league prelim and no game this week I'm not too fussed

Finnius123

Greenwood has 54% TOG. If Don Pyke backed him in then he would be averaging 105+

Russty_

What a bastard!…I would kill him if killing people wasn't illegal.

TOPHAWK1

Glad I got the week off.

JJK -6 SC @ 1/4 TIME. WTF!

Defying_Madness

Can't believe he got such a huge score after that start. Best on ground for sure.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Just a lazy 40 per qtr after Qtr time.
He was the difference.
Leading the coleman after missing 5 games. If u can stop him can stop WC.
GWS white board should have one plan this week.
Operation stop or keep JJK quiet.

Finnius123

Took Danger's score as captain and didn't back in Matt Crouch – maybe the wrong option…

JohndJames

About the same score,so your fine.

Joshua

Midfield minutes not doing Doc any good, 29 at HT

hedski

Add Sloanedog to my shitlist

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Think he got injured in 3rd qtr.

hedski

Yeah thought he was gone for the night when I posted that.

TOPHAWK1

Sloane is about as consistent as Melbourne's weather. He is on my "never go there" list.

TOPHAWK1

Glad I got the week off.

Ohhh BTW Micheal Hurley= GUN

TRIGGA_HAPPY

200 last week 50 this week from Newman and Ryan.
Which is just part of the game everyone can have an off week but did they have to do it this week both at once when my opponent didn't have them?
Sting in the tail is Rick countered with his pods Buddy and Rocky.

Well played Rick good luck in the Happy Place finals next week.

Would need a miracle to catch u from here.
Adams or Billings to punch out a double ton might do it. πŸ™‚
Was that a flying pig I saw in the sky?

Derek

You had injury problems Trigga? Why you have two rookies still onfield?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

After the last 2 weeks scores played what I thought was the percentages and looped shaw and Lloyd.
So based on form played newman and Ryan on field.
Fickle game.
Shaw 75 Friday night thought Newman would match that.
Plus yep copped some Injuries.

JohndJames

Well Russty tomorrow we find out which of our two teams will give themselves a chance of playing finals this year,at the moment I have no confidence in my lot at all,so my prediction that we will miss out by a game is looking about right.

neil Demons Delight

Even money in my book brownlow..but we probably have an edge in class go dees

Russty_

Cheers boys, good luck to your evil Demons lol, may the best team win lads.

JohndJames

Same to you Russty,would be nice if we could both make it,but not to be,finals have come early for the two of us.

Russty_

Looks like I found out my team are still spuds John, not quite there yet…maybe next year, Saints fans have been saying that since 1966 lol.
Congrats to your boys, I hope they do well in the finals, they deserve some good breaks after being down for awhile.

Randomcliche2

Okay so I'm down atm, 210 points behind, opponent has Ryder and Oliver to come, I have Gawn, Hibbard, Howe and Higgins. Should I through a hail mary and put the C on Gawn (or Titch)? Current VC is Danger (141)….. thoughts?

B rian

If Gawn doesn't get over 140 you mignt be in trouble anyway so it could be a good gamble.
Good luck

Randomcliche2

Thanks B rain, went with the logic, cause I liked it, but yikes that was stinker today! Hope you went better, cheers

Bhargava

Titch against North at his fav stadium is a good punt if you've got nothing to lose

LetsGo

Titch over gawn this week Random, he's playing north in tas, I'm expecting him to go large

johnny

got this week off, into the prelims with 3 trades left
def: doch, laird, hurley, heater, luke ryan, witherden (lloyd, glass)
mid: danger, martin, fyfe, beams, bont, oliver, t.adams, c.brown (pendles, jelwood, james cousins)
ruck: ryder, gawn (grundy)
fwd: macrae, yeo, dahl, heeney, nank, greenwood (parsons, darcy cameron)

take the risk and trade pendles to titch before the hawks vs north game
OR stay put and then trade after this round?
(saving the trade for this round could mean I could fix problems elsewhere if they arise)

B rian

the only reason not to trade is if you think titch is going to get injured or suspended (unlikely)
Making the trade this week means you can fix other problems that may come up next week. (likely)

Make the trade,

Northerner

Agreed. Still leaves you with 2 trades with Prelim and GF to go which would be more than most

JohndJames

Bring in Titch,you have held Pendles long enough.

Northerner

With all the outs and likely donuts or dud rookies on field this week, it's likely to really throw the rankings around. Could be some large moves if you nail it this week.

NovemberFoxtrotIndia

Started Buddy on the pine with the E…wise move..
After hearing about all the rain in Perth decided to sit JJK on the bench with Greenwood onfield.
Pretty happy at quarter time

At EOG (end of game) it was OMG.

Could cost me this weeks final.

Only trade for week was Menegola in over Rocky (Witherden out).

Bdog

Par score this week?

Tyruddanaut

Still three more games to go. Can't decide until everyone has played

JohndJames

Looking at 2350 if everything goes to plan,should win four of my five semi finals,but overall its really too early to say.My mids are going gangbusters,the backs and forwards,apart from Buddy,not so much.

INPieman

I think anything over 2200 this week will resemble a pretty decent score. Lots of people with donuts

JohndJames

Yes missed out on the carnage,thank God,since I stuffed up with Ryan on field and Lloyd on the bench and for the first time this year didn't get my C loophole right so the C stays on Mitch.

BrownlowBoy

How long after this supercoach season finishes does research for next season begin? Already looking forward to pre season articles.

INPieman

Maybe have a day off. Maybe

JohndJames

Might do it a bit different this time round and not even look at it till the end of Feb,since I already have a good idea which Premos I will go with,it will just be the rookies that I will have to worry about.

Russty_

don't forget the midpriced madness John, it's not a dirty word anymore, p.s congrats on the win today, I'll just say it now lol

JohndJames

Yes I can see the midpriced players getting in there,depending on how good the rookies are,if anything like this year,we could be going with a quite a few MP.Thanks Russty,but I'll wait till the end,footy is a funny game,we played crap footy the last two weeks and now we decide to turn up.

Kjf

Good opportunity to try and spot a mid price who moves up next year. Wouldn't rule out Alex Neal Bullen, very much improved and getting more confidence

Russty_

I'm looking forward to 5 months off from Footy after the siren blows on the GF…..can't over do it!

Lazza

I still have 5 Prelims to go, but already planning for next year, have already locked down my premos and a couple of mid-pricers for next year … just jot em down as you go ..
One thing that's fairly obvious .. the old brigade are out the door …

dan

Held that stain Heater all year but switched to Ryan this week. Looks like I'm gonna lose by 20-30. Anyone else in same boat ?

leedy

Don't feel too hard done by … I had Newman. Luckily though my opponent had Ryan and my life was suddenly good again πŸ™‚

dan

I lost by 6…….my life is not worth living πŸ™

BrownlowBoy

Mad Monday was this Monday just gone with the news Merrett, Selwood, Grundy, Witherden would all be out.

hedski

Mine started Friday night, will finish when I rock up to work Monday morning with a fuzzy head.
Playing 2 short I have Howe + 224 points vs Oliver, Hibberd, Gawn, Adams and Ryder.
"Game over man, game over." (As the late great Bill Paxton would say)

Jim

Ryan (decided to play him over Heater this week) and Neale just lost me my semi finals this week. Gawn with the C over danger as a Hail Mary to try get back into it, only need him to score about 200 points… also ready for a slide back down the rankings after my first 2500 score last week.. how long till next year?..

hedski

4 months and 18 days Jim.

Jim

Can't come quick enough Hedski!

hedski

Tell me about it!

dan

I held heater all year and switched him to Ryan…lost by 6. Play the same guy in a different league next week.

Derek

i watched Crows play last night, in particular MCrouch. Move over JPK.

Russty_

Gawn Gawn Gawn…what the hell are you doing you big beardless bastard?!…3 points…really?
And the Saints are getting flogged…perfect! lol

JohndJames

Max is playing better than that,what the hell,although Pedo is going alright,maybe he's taking some of Maxy's points.

Russty_

Yeah most of them I'd say John, dangit, was hoping Gawny would go well this week.

Tyruddanaut

Sorry, John, but can you please refrain from calling him 'Pedo'. I don't know whether it was intentional or……

JohndJames

That's what we call him at the Dees,what's the problem ?