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Supercoach Rd 20 : Rookie Scout Report

Published by Barron Von Crow on

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Supercoach Finals are here and we’ve already got a headache in the form of our favourite Captain option and highest scoring player in Patrick Dangerfield being suspended for the first week.

Here at the scout report though, we’re looking past this week in Supercoach. We’re looking ahead. Way, way, way, way ahead, all the way to the year 2018. Since this years rookie crop is pretty much done and dusted from an upgrade/downgrade POV in Supercoach, we’re digging out the Barron Bargain Bin for 2018 and taking a look at what might be in store for us next year.

Last year we took a look at about 9 players and managed to ID players early such as Jarrod Witts, Nic Newman, Jake Barrett, James Stewart and even the recently promoted Harry McKay, so hopefully we can strike gold early again like we did last year. If you have any suggestions on players to cover over the next month, please feel free to let us know in the comments below, or via the Twitter machine.

THIS WEEKS PODCAST HAS LANDED – SUPERCOACH FINALS MAYHEM!

Jordan Dawson – Sydney Swans – MID/FWD – $123,900

Drafted from Sturt in the SANFL with the 56th pick in the 2015 AFL Draft, he actually played for the Sturt league side in his draft year, playing 5 games and averaged 11 disposals,  5 marks and just over a goal a game playing in the forward line.

He only managed 12 NEAFL games in his debut year at the Swans where he averaged 18 disposals, 6 marks and 3 tackles, plus just over a goal a game, but also missed a chunk of time early thanks to a calf injury. He has kicked on from there though, staying healthy for the entire 2017 pre-season and earned himself an AFL debut game in Round 3 where he had 10 disposals, 3 marks and scored 32 SCPoints.

So far this year he’s played 11 games in the NEAFL and has improved his averages to nearly 29 disposals, 8 marks and 2.5 goals per game. That’s where he’ll possibly do his most damage as he scored multiple goals in all but 2 games in the NEAFL season so far.

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I imagine he’ll keep his dual mid/forward eligibility, which will be a big bonus for us, though at this stage you’d expect we’d slot him in as a forward if he did play. It’s certainly debatable just how much time, though his heatmap in his one AFL game indicated he gathered most of his possessions around the wings, with 60% of his possessions coming in the defensive half.

He didn’t play any pre-season games this year, so that will be the first thing we look out for starting next year.

Nick O’Kearney – St Kilda Saints – MID/FWD – $123,900

Drafted with the 5th pick in the rookie draft in 2015, O’Kearney has taken another step forward in his 2nd year at the Saints, boosting his disposal average up from 21 to nearly 26 per game. He was listed as a medium defender/midfielder in his draft year, but at his size of 181 cm and 72kgs, he might be better suited for a more outside role across half back, rather than getting busy on the inside of packs.

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He certainly hasn’t shown the goal scoring power of Dawson above (though looking at NEAFL scores, 100+ point blowouts aren’t uncommon in that league), but his mark and tackle numbers have been fairly consistent, while he hasn’t dropped below 20 possessions in the VFL since Round 2.

Like Dawson, he didn’t feature in the “whoever sponsors this thing now” pre-season cup, so we’d want to see how he goes in that, but the VFL form is very encouraging.

Kayle Kirby – Collingwood Magpies – FWD – $117,300

The excitement machine, but his he suitable for Supercoach? That’ll be the biggest question we have on Kirby as we look ahead to the 2018 AFL season. He was drafted with pick 50 in the 2016 AFL Draft, but has spent the year in the VFL where he’s been tasked to work on his conditioning. He’s been compared to both Byron Pickett and Cyril Rioli, which isn’t anything to sneeze at.

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As you can see from his stats, he hasn’t had any issues kicking goals, averaging 2.5 per game, but his low disposal count of almost 10 a game is where he might struggle to score points for us.

While averaging just 10 disposals a game isn’t ideal, we’ve seen from a few blokes this year, especially forwards, players such as Shai Bolton, Dan Butler, Mitch Hannan etc, that if they can have a decent day out in front of goals they can put up an OK score, though he could be the next Jarrod Pickett also. His biggest thing over the off-season may be just to continue to work on his fitness and if he can do that, he might find a consistent spot in the Pies 22.

AROUND THE GROUNDS

VFL

Round 15 of the VFL season saw the Northern Blues get a win over Geelong 80-75, Footscray were smashed by Williamstown 102-23, Richmond defeated North Ballarat 103-61, Essendon beat Collingwood 100-86, Box Hill had an easy win over Sandringham 142-95, Casey  defeated Coburg 86-43 and Werribee won a close won against Port Melbourne 105-101.

Northern Blues (Carlton)

Kristian Jaksch – Booted 4 goals from 10 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and 5 hitouts.

Ciaran SheehanSheehan had 16 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 2 inside 50’s and 3 rebound 50’s.

Jarrod PickettPickett kicked 2.1 from 9 disposals, 4 tackles and 4 marks.

Matt KorcheckHad just 5 disposals with 2 tackles and 36 hitouts.

Andrew GallucciBooted 1 goal with 14 disposals, 4 marks and 2 tackles.

Collingwood

Tim BroomheadHad a game high 37 disposals, with 8 marks, 2 tackles, 7 inside 50’s and 3 rebound 50’s.

Kayle Kirby – Kicked 3.2 with 10 disposals, 1 mark, 6 tackles and 3 inside 50’s.

Essendon

Aaron Francis – Kicked 1.1 with 14 dispsosals, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 5 inside 50’s and 5 rebound 50’s.

Kobe Mutch – Mutch had 25 disposals with 3 marks, 5 tackles, 2 inside 50’s and 6 rebound 50’s.

Mason RedmanRedman had 17 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 3 inside 50’s and 2 rebound 50’s.

Joshua BegleyBegley kicked 1.1 with 14 disposals, 2 marks, 6 tackles and 6 inside 50’s.

Geelong

Esava Ratugolea – Had just 8 disposals, 2 tackles and 2 inside 50’s.

Ryan Abbott – Abbott finished with 16 disposals, 4 marks, 2 inside 50’s and 31 hitouts.

Aaron BlackKicked 3.2 with 16 disposals, 4 marks and 5 tackles.

Box Hill (Hawthorn)

Kieran Lovell – Lovell had 21 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles and 2 inside 50’s.

Teia Miles – Booted 5 goals with 17 disposals, 8 marks and 1 tackle.

Oliver HanrahanKicked 1.1 with 17 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle and 3 inside 50’s.

Marc PittonetPittonet had 33 hitouts with 15 disposals, 6 marks, 5 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s.

Casey (Melbourne)

Corey Maynard – Had a team high 27 disposals with 7 marks, 7 tackles, 6 inside 50’s and kicked 1.2.

Jake SpencerFinished with 16 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles, 5 inside 50’s and 43 hitouts.

Sam WeidemanKicked 3.3 with 21 disposals and 8 marks.

Dion JohnstoneBooted 2 goals with 10 disposals, 3 marks, 8 tackles and 3 inside 50’s.

Werribee (North Melbourne)

Matthew TaylorTaylor had 20 disposals with 7 marks and 4 rebound 50’s.

Will FordhamFordham had 14 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles and 3 rebound 50’s.

Josh WilliamsWilliams kicked a goal with 17 disposals, 4 marks and 4 inside 50’s.

Jed Anderson – Kicked 1.1 with 15 disposals, 4 marks and 6 tackles.

Cameron Zurhaar – Finished with 2.1, along with 18 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and 6 inside 50’s.

Richmond

Jack Graham – Finished with a team high 28 disposals, along with 4 marks, 7 tackles and 6 inside 50’s.

Ben Lennon – Kicked 3.1 from 10 disposals, 5 marks and 2 tackles.

Tyson Stengle – Kicked 3.1 with 17 disposals, 6 marks, 5 tackles and 2 inside 50’s.

Sandringham (St Kilda)

Ben Long – Kicked a goal with 13 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles and 2 each of inside and rebound 50’s.

Nick O’KearneyHad a team high 35 disposals, as well as 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 inside 50’s, 3 rebound 50’s and a goal.

Ed Phillips – Had 17 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles.

Josh Battle – Battle had just the 11 disposals, with 4 marks, 3 tackles and 3 inside 50’s.

Footscray (Western Bulldogs)

Fletcher RobertsFinished with 13 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles and 3 inside 50’s.

Josh PruddenPrudden had 14 disposals, 2 marks, 7 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s.

Kieran CollinsCollins had 10 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles and 2 rebound 50’s.

Declan HamiltonHamilton had 21 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 4 rebound 50’s and kicked a goal.

SANFL

Round 15 of the SANFL season is another split round, with Port having the week off and Adelaide losing to Glenelg 86-69.

Adelaide

Tom DoedeeHad 16 disposals, 5 marks, 4 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s.

Dean GoreGore had 17 disposals with 5 marks and 4 tackles.

Harrison WiggWigg had a game high 34 disposals, with 9 marks, 3 tackles, 10 inside 50’s and 8 rebound 50’s.

Ben Jarman – Jarman had 11 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and 2 inside 50’s.

Troy MenzelKicked 3 goals with 12 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles and 3 inside 50’s.

NEAFL

Round 18 of the NEAFL season featured Brisbane easily defeating Eastlake 153-59 while Gold Coast beat the UWS Giants 103-72. Sydney had the week off with the bye.

Brisbane

Matthew Hammelmann – Booted 5.3 with 13 disposals, 11 marks, 5 tackles and 2 inside 50’s.

Reuben WilliamWilliam had 21 disposals, 5 marks and 8 tackles.

Liam Dawson – Kicked 2.1 with 11 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles and 2 inside 50’s.

Josh ClaytonClayton had 34 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 8 inside 50’s and 3 rebound 50’s.

Blake GrewarKicked 1.2 with 14 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles and 2 inside 50’s.

Gold Coast

Trent McKenzieFinished with 32 disposals, 8 marks, 2 tackles, 6 inside 50’s and 4 rebound 50’s as well as 1 goal.

Will BrodieFinished with 28 disposals, 9 marks, 5 inside 50’s, 2 rebound 50’s and 2 behinds.

Jack BowesBowes kicked 2 goals, with 26 disposals, 5 marks, 7 tackles and 3 inside 50’s.

Brad Scheer – Scheer booted 3 behinds with 24 disposals, 8 marks, 5 tackles and 4 inside 50’s.

GWS

Isaac Cumming – Cumming had 18 disposals, 6 marks, 1 tackle and 3 rebound 50’s.

Zachary SprouleSproule had 15 disposals, 4 marks and 1 tackle.

Jake SteinStein finished with 19 disposals, 8 marks, 3 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s.

Daniel LloydLloyd had a team high 31 disposals, with 6 marks, 7 tackles and 7 inside 50’s.

WAFL

Round 19 of the WAFL season saw Peel Thunder go down to Swan Districts 72-56, while East Perth won a tight one against Clarement 74-70.

Peel Thunder (Fremantle)

Josh Duluca-Cardillo – Finished with 12 disposals, 2 marks, 9 tackles and kicked a goal.

East Perth (West Coast)

Thomas Cole – Cole had 17 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles and 3 rebound 50’s.

Fraser McInnesMcInnes kicked a goal with 15 disposals, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 3 inside 50’s and 2 hitouts.

 

And that’s it from me, but as always, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to leave them in the section below, or drop me a line on the twitters

@BarronVonCrow

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SC_Kev7

Good to see some names being thrown around for next year, love your work BvC.

I've noticed Mutch, Graham, and Wigg as being fairly constant this year in these writeups. Hopefully there's no late season debuts for these guys that throw out their 2018 starting price

INPieman

Wigg has been banging the door down for years it seems like. Never gets a crack

SC_Kev7

You're our man in South Australia, Barron, what's the go here mate? Something more to it or just that "back the group in" mentality holding him back?

Derek

They can give him #44

Jake.B

Mutch most certainly gets a heap of it. Really rate the kid

INPieman

Very nice BVC. With the upcoming draft not looking overly strong or deep it's going to be more important that ever to hope some blokes who have been on lists for a while get an opportunity. I really hope Kayle Kirby can get himself fit over summer. Man is he some sort of talent. Paul Ahern is top of my rookie prospects for 2018 ATM. North will be super keen to role him out

SC_Kev7

An area where I fell down this year was my naivety in thinking rookies would stand up when there weren't any to start with. Needed to use multiple trades just to make 150-200k.

Recycled players and these guys that have been plugging away at lower levels I'll be looking at rather than new draftees

INPieman

Mature aged recruits is the starting point Kev. And don't pick Cam Rayner if he plays round 1. My nanna has a better tank than him. Did a beep test recently & only got to level 11. At the same age Dusty did a level 14. And we all know how long it took him to get a tank

Derek

Like Eddy!

Derek

If Jordan Dawson is twice as good as Zac Dawson…… we might have a half decent player.

Shake n bake

Danger excepted his 1 week.

King-Willy-Pepsi-Can

Yep geelong and Paddy have accepted the one week ban.. Goodbye Charlie

GloryDays90

Wish Melbourne would give Maynard a crack! Has been great in the last few weeks

James T

With Danger being suspended this week I have bench coverage for only defense and forward line. Only 2 trades left but very much considering trading an injured out of form JPK to Oliver or Kelly. Would have swung Greenwood to M8 but was 1k off affording Ryder who would have perfectly completed my team. Thoughts guys? 🙂

JohndJames

Oliver,you should already have him,only gone below 90 once,one of the most consistent players in the league.Sorry I'm not getting into you personally,just that I've had Clarry since the start and was telling anyone who would listen,even before the season started to get him in at his price,what could you lose,no they said get in JOM instead,how did that work out.Then even after ten rounds of bloody great footy,they were saying,is he worth it,will he keep going,well yes and yes to that.OK had my rant,just had to get it off my chest,at least you are thinking of getting him in.

Whatyasmokin

Yep people were saying he'd break down as the season wore on…………smashes out a 170 in round 19!

Soothsayer

I got O'Meara and Swallow instead. Awesome.

Jambo

My heart sunk when I saw my score (1900).

I don't understand why people are saying, "trade Danger!", play him as your floating donut.

Don't be fooled by Tommy Hawkins' 192! He'll slam back down to earth this Friday, mark my words! I reckon take a serious look at Lukey Dunstan, whom I will call Dunny! As a AFL player, he is breaking from average to elite status.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Geelong plays Friday night

Danger won't float too far

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Could very well be the perfect storm

Danger
JPK
Lloyd
Kruezer.

Can only trade 2 which means may well be reliant on rooks Rd 1 of finals.

Without fail happens every year.
Remember Freo resting half their team?
Hope I'm not the only one facing this carnage.

Swans2012

I've got danger Lloyd and kreuzer trig, hoping kreuzer plays but fully expecting Lloyd to. Nank might prove valuable to me yet….

Whatyasmokin

Got all 4, but have extensive bench coverage luckily. Means I'll probably bow out of half my ten leagues though in week one.

Swans2012

By extensive bench cover how much cover are you talking? I have Shaw witherden and greenwood (who I may turn into gc lynch)

Whatyasmokin

Nank/Stewart in forward, can swing nank into ruck if Kreuz doesn't play. Going Witts to Gawn this week.

Can cover JPK and Danger in mids with Rocky and Myers.

Have Ryan and McGrath on defense bench.

jez_m

Kieran Lovell from the Hawks will be one to watch over the pre-season. Has had a shoulder issue for most of this season and has just returned to the VFL so he will be cheap next year and the Hawks will be keen to start getting games into him alongside the likes of Mitchell, O'Meara, Shiels and Howe.

Whatyasmokin

I'm locking in O'meara again if he's 300K.

don't do it

What are you smokin?

Whatyasmokin

Mid price goodness. Omeara was my only mid price player I would call a failure.

Had Sandi but traded him out as soon as injured, profited well and previous score was 100.
Oliver….
Steele.
Witts.
Marchbank.
Hoskin Elliot.

If you dont take risks then you wont be rewarded and hopefully Omeara comes good. Obviously wont trade him in again if hes not doing full training and doesnt play JLT.

Jim_bob321

Dangerfield down to Dusty anyone? Have 3 trades left
Got elimination final this week and my opponent has Dusty as well.
Cheers community

Whatyasmokin

I'd seriously consider that move. That saying danger will probably go big vs Richmond next week when he returns.

Who's your mid cover?

Jim_bob321

Witherden.

Whatyasmokin

He's pretty good cover, should go alright vs Carlton in Brisbane this week.

Do you have another mid bench player in case of a late out?

James

Have 5 trades and $87k in the bank. Don't what trades I'm gonna do this week any suggestions? Either thinking of upgrading JPK to Martin or upgrading Shaw.

DEF: Docherty, Hurley, Laird, Simpson, Adams, Shaw (Witherden, Ryan)
MID: Danger, Zorko, Merrett, Fyfe, JPK, Bont, Treloar, Jelwood (Bolton, Cousins, Glass)
RUCK: Grundy, Gawn (English)
FWD: Macrae, Franklin, Heeney, Dahlhaus, Yeo, Greewnood (Strnadica, Young)

Thanks!!

Whatyasmokin

Upgrade and downgrade to get Ryder.

Trade out Shaw, get a cheap defensive rookie/defensive junker.

Witherden will score as much or more than shaw, can even loop with a junker to get most out of witherden and ryan.

Greenwood to Ryder. Welcome.

BrownlowBoy

As CaptKaOs was saying on the other thread about players for next year. Be interested to see who everyone plans on starting next year in each position? Just a few players they think they have locked in for 2018?

For me its Doch, Danger, Titch, Jelwood, Oliver, Fyfe, Ryder, Heeney

TRIGGA_HAPPY

I'll have a crack as if I have 4 out this week cue the chubby woman. Betta start warming up her vocal chords.

Doc, Yeo
Danger, Titch, Cripps
Kruez, nicnat/preuss
Gray, Heeney, maccrae, curnow

Whatyasmokin

Like those choices. Yeo been playing defense has he? For me then……….

Doch, Yeo, Witherden. If Mcveigh retires Lloyd might get a spot.
Danger, Titch, Oliver, Zerrett. Possibly Fyfe.
Kruez and Gawn. Set and Forget.
Gray, Heeney, Macrae.

JohndJames

I'll go with the structure that I might use,Def: Doc.Hibberd,Witherden. Mids: Danger,Mitch,Oliver,Bont,Fyfe. Rucks: Ryder. Fwd: Macrae,Heeney.

Don't Blush Baby

VC & C – With no Danger the Coaches who get this right this week will have a huge advantage ?
My options are as below;
Jelwood – Fyfe – worried Joel will get a hard tag ?
Bont – Fyfe – Bont playing Lions could go large ?
Fyfe – TMitch – Fyfe playing GC could go large ?

Whatyasmokin

Like Fyfe – TMitch. probably do that myself.

JohndJames

Fyfe VC,Dusty C.

BrownlowBoy

Any ideas who will be getting DPP next year?

Surely Robbie Gray as a forward. Wouldn't mind Blakely as a defender either.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Hoping as I have named them above yeah blakey in Def would be a good get.
Danger as a fwd? Reaching?

BrownlowBoy

Maybe, depending where he lines up for the rest of the year.

Whatyasmokin

Yeah I reckon reaching, doesn't spend quite enough time up there, also doesn't get a heap of touches in the forwards that will impact the decision.

Would be nice though and will make picking the midfield more interesting.

Soothsayer

Ok I'm thinking about a couple of outs – blakely and danger. Will their absence help Ryan and Henderson get those big scores they are both capable of? I'm thinking mainly of draft league. Who will benefit most from Blakely being out?