SuperCoach RD14: The Heroes, The Villains, The Damned.

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 2017 is the year of the thriller, Community.

There’s been bloody cliff-hangers everywhere. In this round alone, four of the nine games were decided by 3 points or less.  Never before has an AFL season produced so many close matches and upset results.

From a coach’s perspective, there were plenty of underpant stains across the board. Those who managed to avoid them posted respectable scores, but many felt the wrath of the SC Gods this round. As a result, par was hard to predict, but I’d say if you had around 2250 you were doing alright.

The Heroes

Robbie Gray (146 SC) was enormous in Port’s win over the Pies, slotting 5 goals and gathering 20 possessions to be the best player on the ground. Gray’s ceiling is through the roof, but playing that forward role will see his scores fluctuate from big tons to below par returns. Still, his price south of $500K makes him an almost irresistible option in the midfield. Will you take the plunge?

Patrick Dangerfield (145 SC) almost single-handedly willed a wounded Geelong outfit over the line against the plucky Dockers. Danger was in full-on beast mode with 23 of his 31 disposals contested, as well extracting 12 crucial clearances and 9 tackles. He’s well and truly on back-to-back Brownlow pace now.  

Young Bomber Zachary Merrett (141 SC) is a dead set gun. He’s making a strong case to be a must-have midfielder in 2018. The Zach Attack racked up 33 disposals, 14 of them contested, as well as 8 clearances and 6 tackles at 81% efficiency. The fine outing pushed his season-average up to 114.  Swans opponent Josh P Kennedy (127 SC) was prolific in his own right during Sydney’s thrilling win, muscling up a typically bullocking 36 possessions.  

The Giants had a field day fantasy-wise in their romp over the Lions, with Jon Patton (153 SC), Dylan Shiel (143 SC), Jeremey Cameron (133 SC) and Toby Greene (127 SC) all reaping the rewards. Patton, Cameron and Greene nailed four goals each, while Shiel had the pill 38 times.

Tom McDonald (139 SC) was the hero for the Demons at Subiaco booting the match-winning goal with just 30 seconds left. McDonald has been thrust forward since Melbourne lost Jesse Hogan and it seems to be agreeing with him, averaging 120 in his past 2 matches. Team-mate Jack Viney (127 SC) was also suburb, dominating the midfield with 38 disposals.  

The break out season of Matthew Kruezer (135 SC) has been astounding. He’s now the standout ruck prospect in the competition. An influential 37-hit out and 2-goal effort was the latest in a run of remarkable form. The Big Kruz now has six 120+ scores in his past seven games. From Round 7 onwards he has gone: 127, 104, 121, 146, 132, 144, 135. They are stunning numbers. But at a price north of $600K, he may be unreachable to many coaches.  

Saint Jack Billings (130 SC) continues to put his hand up for a permanent spot in our forward lines. After a quiet start to the year, Billings has hit some blistering form of late. With 6 tons in his past 7 games, at an average of 107, he’s making a compelling case to be considered at F6.  

Stef Martin (128 SC), Jack McCrae (122 SC), Dustin Martin (121 SC) and Sam Docherty (120 SC) all have high ownership percentages and they did not let their coaches down, playing excellent games that put them in their sides’ best players.  

Brad Hill (130 SC), Ben Cunnington (126 SC), Steele Sidebottom (125 SC), Jeremy Howe (125 SC), Shaun Burgoyne (123 SC), Sam Menegola (123 SC), Rhys “Shotgun” Mathieson (122 SC) and Tom Campbell (120 SC) were others to crack the 120-mark this round.

The Villains

Joel Selwood (3 SC) was knocked out in the first minutes of Geelong’s match yesterday, in a result that hit his owners hard. He will receive a concussion test during the week to determine if he is available, but knowing Joel, you’d back him in to get up for next week. The plus for those who don’t own him is that he’ll be dirt cheap in a week or two. He’s already dripped 40K from last week to be sitting at $538K. With an enormous breakeven of 241 this week he will soon be close to $500K – a dead-set bargain.

All the talk mid-week was on how much Dayne Zorko (51 SC) was flying, so Murphy’s Law had to step in and bring the magnificent one back down to earth. Zorko had an absolute stinker against the Giants, getting his hands on the ball just 5 times. You read right, FIVE possessions in a whole match. The Zork went head to head with Callan Ward, producing a result that would have been bitterly disappointing to thousands of coaches who traded him in this week.

Lions team-mate Tom Rockliff (82 SC) has been quiet since returning from a shoulder injury two games ago, but with Beams now out of the side, expect his output to increase in the future.  Popular selections Lance Franklin (83 SC) and Rory Laird (72 SC) were below their best, as was GWS monolith Shane Mumford (77 SC).

Brad Ebert (58 SC) was having a really consistent season before this round. He started off well for the Power, but faded significantly in the second half. In Round 11 Zac Williams (49 SC) produced what looked to be a career-defining performance of 145 SC. But in the two matches since, he has been highly underwhelming, averaging just 56.

Jason Johannisen (82 SC) and Matt Priddis (68 SC) continued their disappointing form in 2017, while Mitch Wallis (76 SC) had him first blemish for the season. St Kilda’s Dylan Roberton (80 SC) and Carlton pair Kade Simpson (78 SC) and Marc Murphy (77 SC) were all quiet, but expect them to bounce back next week.

The Redeemers

Marcus Bontempelli (139 SC) was back to his best on Saturday night after a lean couple of weeks, helping the Dogs to get the job done. The Bont had 28 disposals, 10 tackles, 1 goal and 8 clearances in a standout performance.

After starting off the season slowly, Matt Crouch (131 SC) has really his hit straps in the past month. The inside mid had 35 touches on Thursday night to go with 8 tackles. He’s averaging 114 from his last 4 matches and is starting to impact on games more. At under $550K, he could be a good POD in the midfield coming home.

Big Maxy Gawn (113 SC) will be ripe for the picking in a couple of weeks time after making a successful return from a serious hamstring injury. Maxwell barely got out of second gear and still managed to knock out a ton, so he looms as an excellent addition to the ruck when his price drops shortly.

Patrick Cripps (134 SC) has been up and down in 2017 due to a back injury hampering his pre season. He looked to have turned the corner in round 8 with a magnificent 157, but was unable to register three figures in the corresponding three matches. But scores of 114 and 135 in his last two have him poised for a strong run home.

Mark Blicavs (135 SC) has been well off the pace this season but he bounced back in a big way yesterday. Playing a part-time ruck role, he had 21 possessions, 22 hit outs and 9 tackles. After injuring his hammy, which resulted in a sub-50 return last week, Scott Selwood (72 SC) deserves a special mention for getting himself right to play on the weekend. Scooter, your owners salute you.

The Prodigies

Hugh Greenwood (127 SC), take a bow. Many coaches have the dynamic ex-basketballer sitting at F6 and if he can maintain these sort of performances, he’s worth holding onto. Dare I say it, maybe even keeping.  More than half of his 21 possessions were contested and he had 9 tackles, 6 clearances and 6 marks to go with 2 goals, all at a sublime 95% efficiency. Another gun ex-basketballer, Pendles, was certainly a fan.

Those still holding Will Hoskin-Elliott (91 SC), Nic Newman (90 SC), Blake Hardwick (84 SC), James Parsons (82 SC) and Sam Powell-Pepper (82 SC) would be pleased with their output in recent weeks, while Brissie duo Hugh McCluggage (77 SC) and Jarrod Berry (76 SC) posted respectable scores.

Brennan Cox (60 SC), Jono Beech (49 SC) and Callum Brown (43 SC) are on the bubble this week and while the trio have not posted any scores of note yet, they could be good downgrade options if their job security remains strong.

However, it might be worth waiting for Alex Witherden (76 SC). The young Lion looked the goods in his first match, gathering 20 disposals and 7 marks. A 117K DEF/MID option, Witherden will be heavily traded into if he can back his debut up with another good outing next week. Freo duo Sean Darcy (50 SC) and Josh Deluca (33 SC) also played their maiden games.  

Other rookie scores: Ben Ainsworth (64 SC), Oli Florent (63 SC), Lewis Melican (60 SC), Tim Taranto (53 SC), Mitch Hannan (51 SC), James Stewart (51 SC), Luke Ryan (49 SC), Daniel Lloyd (48 SC), Declan Mountford (46 SC), Andrew McGrath (45 SC), Will Hayward (43 SC), Jarrod Pickett (43 SC), Shai Bolton (39 SC), Sam Petrevski-Seton (32 SC).

The Damned

It would be a luxury trade of the highest order, but if Rory Sloane (80 SC) can’t develop a way to handle a tag soon he might have to be offloaded. Sloane was shadowed by Daniel Howe on Thursday night, who hasn’t done much tagging before, and it severely limited his output – again. The Crows hardnut is averaging just 77 in the 5 matches he’s been tagged in this season.  It’s becoming a concerning theme he needs to rectify, because you bet your bottom dollar it will keep happening for the rest of the season. It would take massive plums to drop him now, but it’s worth keeping an eye on.

You would think if ever there was a game to get up and play well in, it would be your 250th. Not so for Heath Shaw (60 SC). Heater was barely sighted and had just 9 touches, despite GWS thumping out a big win. His average has dipped to a miserable 85 points per game and the patience of many coaches has run out. He’s got to go.

The brittle Dayne Beams (12 SC) suffered a shoulder/collarbone injury after being steamrolled by Shane Mumford and looks set for a long stint on the sidelines. This may be a blessing in disguise for Tom Rockliff owners, as Rocky seems to perform much better when Beams is out of the Brissie side.

Tom Lynch (39 SC) is going through the worst form slump of his AFL career. Over the past 6 matches, Lynch is averaging a deplorable 64, with just one triple-figure score. He’s having zero impact on games, which is hurting the Suns severely. With his price dipping under $400K and a breakeven of 159, he could be picked up at a bargain price in a week or two.

Bacher Houli (119 SC) is one of the form players of the competition but he faces a stint on the sidelines for a crude hit behind play on Carlton opponent Jed Lamb. A two-week suspension means he is worth holding, but anymore and his owners should consider a sideways trade.  Tom Stewart (48 SC) suffered a facial fracture in Geelong’s Sunday match and is in doubt for this week. He’s served his purpose, so it’s probably time to either upgrade or downgrade him. He might get up for this week, but it looks unlikely.

Caleb Marchbank (60 SC) and Jake Barrett (32 SC) have done a good job of making us some cash, but with massive break evens this week, they need to be shown the door. Toby Nankervis (62 SC) continues to underwhelm, but many of us have bigger problems, meaning he could survive for a couple more weeks yet.


How did you go this week?

 Twitter: @CarlPfeiffer9


slats7 · 26/06/2017 at 12:16

Houli celebrated the end of Ramadan by knocking back some Lamb.

    LoganJosh7 · 26/06/2017 at 12:19

    you've just been itching to share that one hey 😉

    percytheslice · 26/06/2017 at 12:24


    Bells E Bubb · 26/06/2017 at 14:14

    But Lamb wasn't facing Mecca when sacrificed, so it's off to hell fire for Mr Houli.
    Sorry Bachar but the Big Mahn upstairs really cares about these details as omnipotent beings don't really have much on…

    TigerNut · 26/06/2017 at 17:58

    That is gold haha

    JAL · 27/06/2017 at 11:07

    Surprised ISIS haven't come out to claim responsibility yet.

    Jed · 27/06/2017 at 11:54

    can't knock back some woolworths lamb, its the best

    Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 14:15

    Pretty funny how he said it was "unintentional"…lol, I've never seen anything more intentional than that hit.

LoganJosh7 · 26/06/2017 at 12:17

would you wait a week for witherdon or go for shoenmakers this week?

    Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 12:20

    Have you considered non playing DPP's if you don't need cash anymore? But out of those two wouldn't be looking at Shoe has bad JS.

      LoganJosh7 · 26/06/2017 at 12:27

      but both are playing so I don't really see why not? much better as injury cover

        Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 12:35

        Hard to tell without looking at your team. If you don't have loopholes for each position and need the cash I would get a 102k DPP player.

    jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 12:34

    Stratton is due back from injury in a week or two, so Schoenmakers will probably make way.

      LoganJosh7 · 26/06/2017 at 12:43


    Swans2012 · 26/06/2017 at 13:25

    Witherden for mine, coach likes him and looked the goods

    Randomcliche2 · 27/06/2017 at 10:44

    The cobbler is a trap. Only way out is if you need a loophole player down the track.

Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 12:20

Hello community,
Here is my team and looking for some trade suggestions. Looking at Gawn and Rocky/ Jelwood as my final upgrades.

    B T · 26/06/2017 at 12:37

    In a week or 2 you can go Greenwood>Jelwood.

    Very good looking team you have there

      Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 19:58

      Cheers BT love your work 🙂

    Nick · 26/06/2017 at 12:38

    Hold this week Prysey

    INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 13:37

    Agree with Nick hold this week & maybe witts to Gawn next week

      Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 13:39

      Do you think downgrading Berry might be a good move so I can upgrade Parsons and Witts next week?

        INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 14:01

        After you upgrade Gawn I'm not sure there will be enough to upgrade Parsons. Assume you will send him to a mid & sub Greenwood to your Fwd line?

          Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 14:10

          I should have enough for Jelwood or Rocky right? It will be tight though

            INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 14:25

            if you can be patient for a few weeks you should be able to get one of them

        Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 19:50

        Pitentionally downgrade on berry yeah. Gives You bulk $$ to play with. Unless you want him as your first emergency.

    Randomcliche2 · 27/06/2017 at 10:53

    Parsons berry to bont now if ya patience is low. Just make sure you can do Gawn next week. But Jelwood and Gawn are dead set targets I reckon.

Nickf · 26/06/2017 at 12:20

Biggest what if round of my life community and I'm struggling to deal.. 2255 with the C on Jelwood and having Gaz and Fyfe on the bench… Was pushing for the top 1000 but instead I'm left hopelessly devastated

    Bells E Bubb · 26/06/2017 at 14:10

    HA- HA! (Nelson laugh)

      Nickf · 26/06/2017 at 15:00

      Do you find something comical about my depression when looking at my supercharger team?.. would you like it if I laughed at your misfortune? Huh??…

        Marron · 26/06/2017 at 16:16

        Bit too serious Nick. Grab a Kleenex. I feel for you but it's a game. I'm with Bells – cue the Nelson laugh.

          Boo-ritto · 26/06/2017 at 16:40

          simpsons reference clearly went over their heads Nick

            Nickf · 26/06/2017 at 18:41

            Haha it's an obscure one so I'll forgive

              Bells · 26/06/2017 at 19:20

              Hey no harm intended. Depression is a real thing. Go to a gp if you have it. They still hand out 6 free psych sessions on Medicare I think. Well worthwhile and can be a big leg up.
              But if not really depressed see my first post. 😉

        Daniel Z · 27/06/2017 at 01:55

        This was the best team that I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

          Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 02:13

          What you talkin bout Willis?

            AuroraBorealis?! · 27/06/2017 at 04:43

            Another simpson reference, i thought this community was meant to be the best at those

              Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 14:13

              I'm more of a Family Guy…Guy 🙂

          Nickf · 27/06/2017 at 12:36

          I guess so?

    The Ranger · 27/06/2017 at 09:50

    You tried your best and you failed miserably Nick.
    The lesson is: never try.

      Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 14:13


Thomas · 26/06/2017 at 12:21

Thoughts on my team and possible trades over the coming weeks? Got 7 trades and $900 in the bank
Def: Doch, Adams, Laird, Simmo, Rance, HIbberd
Mid: Danger, Bont, Pendles, Neale, Treloar, JPK, Fyfe, Greenwood (SPP, Cousins, JDC)
Ruc: Grundy, Ryder (Strnadica)
Fwd: Yeo, Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Buddy, Lynch (Bolton, Eddy)

Definitely targeting Jelwood in a couple of weeks, will be too cheap to ignore. I would like to trade out Lynch for Gawn in a couple of weeks also, but can't see where the cash is going to come from to fund this.
Any other ideas also appreciated!

    Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 12:23

    Maybe do some downgrades in preparation for when Gawn and Jelwood hit rock bottom?

    Hawks · 26/06/2017 at 12:42

    SPP to Witherden, will create cash for the Jelwood acquisition.

    Daniel Z · 27/06/2017 at 01:56

    Who's on your def bench?

      Thomas · 27/06/2017 at 09:44

      Ryan and Sharenberg

Jim · 26/06/2017 at 12:26

Barrett to Matt White (PTA) good to have a DPP, but iffy on his job security. With scores like 81 & 63 is he worth it? *He's just for bench cash generation*

Shaw to Docherty, kicking myself to why I haven't done this yet

Is it time to pass up on the Nank Tank? Currently in my fwd

    Derek · 26/06/2017 at 13:13

    He is $200k. Far to expensive

      No one · 26/06/2017 at 18:51

      He is $200k. Close to cheap.

    Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:20

    JS a worry, could be injured at any moment. Forget it.

    TheGreatBozza · 26/06/2017 at 19:46

    He ain't going to play Collingwood every week.

    Jim · 26/06/2017 at 20:18

    If he is named I'll bite the bullet and risk it. Any mid rooks on the bubble this week?

Hawks · 26/06/2017 at 12:28

My computer was the villain this week.

Was part way through setting my line-up on Thursday night, and it decided not to function.

Result was that my trade for Jake Lloyd went through, but I hadn't had the chance to change my captains from the previous week. Thank you captain Rory Laird, still salvaged a score of 2255, after I was able to set the rest of my team at work on Friday.

    Jack · 26/06/2017 at 18:19

    Time for a smart phone! Go Hawks!

HallyMate · 26/06/2017 at 12:35

Few weeks back I said trading in priddis over dusty was one of the worst trades I'd ever done, managed to top that two weeks ago when I brought in jelwood and lynch. Trading in Neale this week owners beware

    B T · 26/06/2017 at 13:17

    Same mate. 2 weeks ago I traded Fyfe>Jelwood and Taranto>GC Lynch.

    They have both only scored a total of 76 in their past 2 games.

    Even James Parsons did better than that, in 1 game.

      HallyMate · 26/06/2017 at 13:25

      Who would've thought playing parsons over lynch would've been the better move two weekend in a row

jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 12:38

Really keen to hear people's thoughts on which is the better pick from here out of Toby Greene and Jack Billings. Billings has only had two scores below 93 in his last 10 games and is a massive POD, while Greene is a touch more consistent but hasn't had the tendency to go as large as Billings in the last little while. Also Billings' MID/FWD status could come in handy later on. Thoughts?

    INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 13:27

    Really like the patch of form from Billings & his DPP. Can he keep it up for the rest of the season is the question. Both look like good options

      Beezneez · 26/06/2017 at 17:45

      Couldn't be worse than Lynch of the GC variety..

    Bock Choy · 26/06/2017 at 13:35

    His season average is only 92.9 which makes his price ($516,200) pretty expensive. Will he revert to mean or has he legitimately broken out?

      jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 14:52

      It's a good point you raise Bock Choy – Billings is definitely on that upward price trend and based on overall average is overpriced. Greene is averaging more over the course of the season and is actually about $6K cheaper this week with a similar breakeven. Despite playing two less games he's only scored 105 points less than Billings.

    Leeds17 · 26/06/2017 at 18:34

    In the losses against Sydney & Adelaide he was exceptional his SC score doesn't show how good he was when the most of his teammates were awful, he's overpriced now I think, his half forward role & reliance on high DE% worry me but I do think he's turned the corner as a player and as a SC scorer.

      jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 19:04

      Cheers Leeds. Will need to watch him closely for the rest of the year. Might be worth a look as a starter in 2018 if he keeps his DPP.

    Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 19:53

    I'm going for billings. Think he is a great POD

INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 12:39

Someone on SEN this morning said scooter reinjured his hammy yesterday. Anyone know any more detail

    hedski · 26/06/2017 at 13:08

    If that's true he will become Zerrett this week.

      Defying_Madness · 26/06/2017 at 14:47

      Solid plan

    Jimmy · 26/06/2017 at 16:16

    Seriously though any news? Lol

      Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 16:36

      Herald Sun site just says both Selwood's listed as a 'Test' Jimmy. Concussion and Hamstring, have to wait and see.

        Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:23

        Official AFL website hasn't updated theirs from June 22 so I dare say herald Sun's Scooter info is from last week.

          Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 19:24

          Was actually posted today at 1.16 pm on The Barometer.

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:39

    Is this you under another sign in Pieman?

      INPieman · 27/06/2017 at 16:13

      What do you mean? I only use the one with the pic. Not interested in childish morons

Andrews1 · 26/06/2017 at 12:51

Doch, Adams, laird, hurley, lloyd, hibberd SCHARENBERG RYAN

danger, bont, pendles, treloar, JPK, Rocky, Neale, Fyfe BOLTON COUSINS MOUNTFORD

martin sandi STRNDKA

Dahlhause, billings, nanks, lynch, heeney, greenwood PARSoNS EDDY

only have 5 trades left because i wasted trades at the start of the year due to a lack of experience with 320k ITB

I will certaintly get gawn in next week but the real question is my forward line

Do i have to keep nank due to the amount of trades i have left?

    jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 13:01

    Yep I'd be holding all remaining trades once you turf Sandi. Chances are you'll cop a couple of injuries between now and end of the year.

    Derek · 26/06/2017 at 13:11

    Keep Nank. He is still the #1 ruck and should score ok.

    Half have him and many people will keep him, won't lose much ground.

    Uncertain who to get in forwards, keep until you are confident to go to someone else

      Leeds17 · 26/06/2017 at 18:38

      Hey mate would your advice be different if he had say 8-9 trades left?

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 15:13

    Hold Nank and wait for Greenwood to plump up nicely. He's expected to reach 400k in 3 weeks or you can risk an extra 10k to take him a week earlier

    Randomcliche2 · 27/06/2017 at 11:06

    Gawn has had multiple knee recos torn hammy back issues. Keep Nank. Buy Yeo/macrae and run Nank at f7 r3. If you can keep Greenwood while doing that do so.
    Your sincerely
    President No Trades Left Comittee

Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 13:06

Wow, you're a real little ray of sunshine ain't ya?

INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 13:15

Moron. If you really want to be a hero use your log in & show your identity. Your a coward

    Tibor · 26/06/2017 at 18:46

    A turd not even worthy of your attention pieman

jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 13:19

You're a peanut, Wombats.

Benjamin B · 26/06/2017 at 13:51

Bring in Martin or wait for Gawn?

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 15:06

    Gawn definately

Bells · 26/06/2017 at 14:00

Scooter is my 'Hero'.
If not for him getting up I would've traded in Zorko. Not only did I avoid that, but will pick up Jelwood in a few.
If Scoot gets a couple of tons in next two weeks he might win my player of the year, popping Newman.

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 15:06

    Better than Newman!? I don't think so. What other 123k priced players would have an average output of 90 odd?

    Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:24

    Someone has a crush……

Rivo · 26/06/2017 at 14:02

Still a couple of premos short with 7 trades and $112k remaining. Keen on Gawn & Bont. However have a couple of lemons in the team too…

D: Doc, Laird, Simpson, Rance, Hibberd, Shaw (Scharenberg, Ryan);
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Treloar, Hanners, M.Crouch, Scooter (Pickett, Mountford, Cousins);
R: Martin, Ryder (Strnadica);
F: Dahl, Heeney, Buddy, Nank, Lynch (GC), Greenwood (Bolton, Eddy).

Any thoughts on the below????

1. This week – Scooter to Gray?
2. This week – Shaw to Lloyd
3. Next week – Scooter to Gawn via DPP swing & Greenwood or Lynch to Bont?

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 15:04

    I would say an adapted form of option 3. Trade Scott to Joel Selwood and hold the rest of your premos

      Rivo · 26/06/2017 at 21:04

      Don't mind it Tyrudn- would be a straight swap next week.

    Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 19:56

    You should have gotten bonti last week when he bottomed out

      Rivo · 26/06/2017 at 21:01

      Perhaps Jake, but I rolled the dice last week on Ryder to get Ruck DPP swing back. Nank was doubtful and I wanted to avoid the donut.

    Rocksta · 26/06/2017 at 22:48

    I'd say Scooter to Jelwood next week, as well as say Bolton to Witherden via pickett if Witherden backs it up this week.
    Look at upgrading Greenwood to a Macrae or Green in rd 17.
    No trades this week.
    You don't have a lot of trades and need to use them wisely.

      Rivo · 27/06/2017 at 11:26

      That's a good plan Rocksta. Thanks. Are you suggesting to trade out Bolton or Pickett to Witherden? Surely Bolton will make more cash?

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:41

    Fill team before sideways trading imo

The Ranger · 26/06/2017 at 14:05

I finally get to full keeper this round.
Not calling it full premo 'cos it certainly isn't but it's what I'm stuck with.

DEF: Adams, Laird, Simpson, McGovern,Llloyd, Newman – Ryan, Scharenberg
MIDS Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Ablett, JPK, Hanners, Bont, Fyfe – Greenwood, Pickett, Junker
RUC Grundy, Ryder – Cameron
FWD Yeo, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Nank, Lynch (GC), Pedersen – Bolton, Maynard

6 trades and 68K left.
Hoping to go straight from Pedersen to Gawn in a couple of weeks.
Gonna be a long ride home…

    B T · 26/06/2017 at 15:13

    I reckon you can hold Pederson, Lynch and Nank have been worse than him.

      The Ranger · 26/06/2017 at 15:25

      You might be right BT, gonna wait and see how the Pederen/Gawn/Hogan/T-Mac/Far Too Many Tall Blokes thing pans out.
      Lynch and Nank have bled so much cash I prob won't be able to jump straight from one of those to Gawn which is why I'm leaning toward Pedersen.

Simo · 26/06/2017 at 14:10

Which rookie bubble fwd has better JS do you think out of Beech, Cal Brown & Brennan Cox?

    SC_Kev7 · 26/06/2017 at 15:59

    Reckon Cox and Brown are more or less even. Brown slightly ahead as we know how much Ross loves to dick around the rookies

Alex · 26/06/2017 at 14:14

Beams to Bont or Gray

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 26/06/2017 at 14:41

    Parker or Cripps

    Boner Contention · 26/06/2017 at 15:03

    Go POD Alex…try Whitfield or Menegola

    The Ranger · 26/06/2017 at 15:29


      Randomcliche2 · 27/06/2017 at 11:12


    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 19:08

    Bont. Gray is a key forward

TBone · 26/06/2017 at 14:20

Hey guys, tough decisions to be made this week. Still have 11 trades left to make. Get rid of Shaw for T. Adams? SPP to Adams then Shaw or Newman to Jelwood in a couple weeks time and swing Adams to defense? Thanks community 🙂

    SC_Kev7 · 26/06/2017 at 15:57

    SPP to Adams: Yeah
    Shaw v Newman… I'd back Newman

      TBone · 26/06/2017 at 19:08

      Cheers Kev, I'm feeling the same way!

neil Demons Delight · 26/06/2017 at 14:27

you are really something wombatty at least pieman gives us usefull info that not all have access to..Why don't you give us something worthy goose

Stirlsy · 26/06/2017 at 14:29

2304 with Fyfe out Bolton stepped in for him with a whooping 39, and Jelwood going down hurt…. T.Mac is going well since i got him in, so now its sit a week and get Gawn
Problems I have, iv got Pedersen T.mac and want Gawn but how will they work together?
Like on the w/end they all scored well when on the ball, and T.mac had a day out with 5 and played well up fwd but Pedersen only had around 25sc pts at half time. He hadn't been in the ruck much in first have but got 2nd half of 3rd in ruck and his scoring took off.
It's out of Pedersen or Nank in the swap to get gawn but who to flick?
And then Hogan comes back how will it all work out at the dees?

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 15:03

    The problem with having multiple players on the same team is their scoring outputs will decrease. Although in some cases, as seen with the Collingwood and Carlton Midfields, they can benefit each other to higher scoring outputs.
    All of your players are in different positions so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just hope that scaling isn't too harsh

      Stirlsy · 26/06/2017 at 15:21

      Its the Gawn factor Tyruddanaut, Pedersen was 2nd choise to replace Gawn and has done well avg just under 100 his been sharing ruck with T.mac and both rested fwd.
      Gawn had 70% gametime on W/End that will go to 80% this week, ill just sit back and see if i get a better guide Friday night.
      Pedersen is a worry for me tho, with Hoges coming back where will he fit in? I cant see the Dees messing with a 3 tall fwd line this far into season.
      Will be interesting to see how they work it out.

    neil Demons Delight · 26/06/2017 at 15:17

    Stirlsy what a problem I think Nank will come good so that's one.Both Pederson and tmac have enormous Js as well. Its got to be Demon for Demon . if at all I think I would look at other options but if forced I would reluctantly go Gawn for TMAC good luck with that one cheers

      Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:27

      You reckon they'll play Gawn, Pederson and Hogan?

LoganJosh7 · 26/06/2017 at 14:31

Which two players would you start onfield out of roughy, WHE and greenwood

    Scyb · 26/06/2017 at 14:39

    Roughie and Greenwood

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 15:00

    Do you have a loophole option just in case the bench player scores high?

      LoganJosh7 · 26/06/2017 at 16:31

      possibly JJK

    TheScacman · 26/06/2017 at 17:54

    WHE and Greenwood, i'd look at trading roughead down to a callum brown type player which gives you 300k to spend finishing upgrading your team

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:42

    Weather dependant. Greenwood and WHE. If raining greenwood Jordie

B-rian · 26/06/2017 at 14:36

Wombats, no one on here cares what you have to say. But I imagine you would be used of that you friendless idiot

Jimmy · 26/06/2017 at 15:10

Community need some help who would you get rid of first: Sloan, Heppel, Fyfe or Scott Selwood as it seems his 15 minutes of SuperCoach fame is over?

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 19:07

    Fyfe and Scott Selwood after a week or two

Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 15:11

I'm not sure whether to jump on Joel or Gawn in a week or two. I can obtain them both at the expense of Scooter except that will be the last trade of my supercoach year, bar injuries, as I panic traded Fyfe, Hanners and Touhy earlier this year. I still can't figure if those were good or bad trades but I'm going to say they were all good because Fyfe didn't play a game since, Touhy has scored an avg of 20 less a game (Brought in Adams) and Oliver and Nank came in for Hanners

    Rivo · 27/06/2017 at 12:25

    I'm in the same boat. Selwood (provided he is over that head knock) and Gawn are SC beasts. Sound like good moves to me & very much on my radar.

    Defying_Madness · 27/06/2017 at 12:40

    I would say Hanners has been better than Oliver after his first 2 games. Been very happy with his scores since I brought him in over Oliver

mike · 26/06/2017 at 15:36

Thoughts on my team and possible trades over the coming weeks? Got 7 trades and $252,000 in the bank
Def: Doch, Laird, Lloyd, Shaw, Newman, Hibberd
Mid: Danger,Martin, Bont, Kennedy, Addams, Wines, Heppell, Selwood
Ruc: Grundy, Ryder
Fwd: Dahlhouse, Franklin, Lynch, Wingard, Wallis, Greenwood

    SC_Kev7 · 26/06/2017 at 15:53

    Looks pretty good, mike. Assuming that's Scooter at M8 and not Joel there are better midfield options to strengthen. Consider Gawn next week as well, should be around 530k

    Daniel · 27/06/2017 at 10:58


Jim_bob321 · 26/06/2017 at 15:39

Who is a better pick atm.
Heeney or Greene?
Cheers community

    SC_Kev7 · 26/06/2017 at 15:46


    jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 18:56

    Can't go wrong with either. If it means anything, Greene is $20K cheaper.

    Josh · 26/06/2017 at 21:17

    heeney. Way more consistent

    BlueNath · 26/06/2017 at 21:30

    Heeney. The kid is bloody tough, great decision maker and user, amazing marking especially considering his height, superb… Just get him in!

    Lazza · 26/06/2017 at 21:43

    Greene… more upside, more often..

    Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 21:57

    I'll say Heeney cause he seems to still be improving, and doesn't have the hot temper of Greene who can do silly things sometimes and get suspended.

Gordy · 26/06/2017 at 15:55

I had ablett beams selwood fyfe kelly lynch and nank. One word SHITE.

SC16 · 26/06/2017 at 16:22

Papley as my last foward upgrade? thoughts???

    redherringfc · 26/06/2017 at 17:30

    Gutsy! I had a chuckle when someone mentioned him last week, but his stats looked alright.

    73 on the weekend isn't encouraging. You might end up paying top dollar for a run of the mill mid-pricer.

      Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:30

      Papley is hard at it. That saying I wouldn't lock him in.

      SC16 · 26/06/2017 at 19:46

      been watching the kid for a while and i reckon i might take the punt on him if he plays alright this weekend isntead of going say a macrae who i dont have

    jez_ · 26/06/2017 at 19:00

    Someone like Jeremy Cameron is a much better option and still a POD.

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 19:06

    I'd be careful with people on recent streaks

    SC16 · 26/06/2017 at 19:48

    my fowardline consists of Yeo, Dahl, Buddy, Higgins, Lynch, Greenwood

    Bells · 26/06/2017 at 23:01

    He's 60k more than when I got him 2 weeks back.
    Look I'm a lot happier than anyone holding Lynch and I'm pretty sure that will continue to be the case, but he is a risk. Seeing him off half back, through the mids and kicking goals the last month encouraged me. Wherever Horse needs a win, Papley goes imo.
    The Swans have been winning games as their list of strong bodies rotating thru mids is longer than other teams. Hewett, Parker, Jack, Kennedy, Jones, Papley, Hanners, Newman, Mills just wear other teams down. Paps will continue to be a part of that imho so should continue to go ok or better. I see that 73 as his floor atm.
    Or yeah, could be a trap. Just not as bad as the one Lynch set.

    " You gotta ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky? Well….do you…punk?"

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:43

    He's in great form. Huge pod. Maybe

Wombatsfc · 26/06/2017 at 16:30

Mate that comment isn't even worthy of a Numbat. Totally humourless, except for the smiley face, and way too blatant. Pickup your game or find a different forum to troll

BrownlowBoy · 26/06/2017 at 16:43

Best options for Beams? Already have Danger, Selwood, Bont, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe.

Thinking Merrett

    Jim_bob321 · 26/06/2017 at 16:47

    Merrett or Neale

      Andrews1 · 26/06/2017 at 16:55


    Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 20:13


SC_BEN · 26/06/2017 at 16:51

Looking to trade out Beams who is the better option without considering salary cap
Dusty, Merrett, Rockliff

    Andrews1 · 26/06/2017 at 16:54


    joshunt7 · 26/06/2017 at 21:34


      Brett H · 26/06/2017 at 22:03

      haha – those 3 answers wont help you SC BEN !!!

      I vote in this order: Dusty / Zerrett / then Rocky

        SC_BEN · 26/06/2017 at 22:21

        hahaha!! My only doubt behind dusty is any injury he may be playing through?

    Top Gun · 27/06/2017 at 11:42

    Merrett or Dusty

Keenbutclueless · 26/06/2017 at 17:28

With Nank to Gawn next week I will have 5 trades left and my team almost as I envisaged it when I planned it out at the start of the season

Def. Adams Laird Rance Williams Lloyd Mills
Mid. Danger Selwood Bont JPK Titchell Treloar Fyfe Wines
Ruck. Gawn Martin
Fwd. Macrae Dahl Yeo Buddy Lynch Ryder

I sideways trade JJK to Yeo when he got injured
Williams instead of Hurley (mistake!)
Wines instead of Gray (probably a mistake)
Thought Mills was a keeper, but not enough to upgrade him anyway

Ended up with Lloyd instead of Doc because couldn't generate enough cash and Doc never dropped.

Captains choices have been ok.

Selwood going down this week was the only time it's happened all year.

Only one injury – JJK

All in all, pretty sound.

Trouble is, for all of that ranked more than 15k.

Will probably hold my own in the leagues for the rest of the season.

I know it's probably too early to reflect, but when things pretty much go to plan, but still so far off the pace, then it's time to get a new plan! I will be starting now on planning my team for 2018. It will be different. Maybe crash and burn, but my vanilla team with a vanilla plan hasn't worked.

    Tyruddanaut · 26/06/2017 at 19:05

    Any ideas on who your premos will be

      Keenbutclueless · 26/06/2017 at 19:20

      Danger – because you need the double points. Every other premium drops in price. Also the draft looks shallow. So it might be value, value, value. My early looks are Fyfe (surely must improve), Mills (might have gone a year early), Gray (as a forward might be a lock), Petracca (early breakout choice), Seb Ross (keeps on improving), Blakely (getting better and will be in the zone), Billings (will be on everyone's radar), and I like the look of Robertson from Brisbane (not sure if he can go next level, but one I am watching)

Mikey · 26/06/2017 at 17:44

Need help with trades badly. Should I keep scooter? Got 7 trades and $148,400 in the bank
Def: Doch, Adams, Laird, Roberton, Harbrow, HIbberd
Mid: Danger, Bont, S Selwood, Murphy, Shuey, Hannebery, Zorko, Merrett (Lloyd , Cousins, M Hibbered)
Ruc: Grundy, Ryder (Eagles)
Fwd: Buddy, Dahl, Macrae, Greenwood, Nank, Parsons (Bolton, Eddy)

Definitely thinking Gawn but want to produce another promo this week

    Bells · 26/06/2017 at 19:38

    Keep Scooter, upgrade a fwd this week.
    Try and trade Scooter to get his brother in a few more weeks. He will be a bargain at 500k by then.

    Top Gun · 27/06/2017 at 11:41

    Maybe work on yr forward line a little more – u need a Yeo or a Heeney in. What are your defence rooks as I don't see much $$$ generation besides Parsons.

Indecisive phil · 26/06/2017 at 17:56

Which of these 3 trades would you do for your final Mid Premo? Each trade will leave me with 5 – 10k in bank.
Scooter > Dusty
Berry > Merrett
Fisher > Bont
Scooter is my current M8 my M11 is Bolton
I have greenwood to loop with Buddy & Eddy for loophole FWD
trading Berry would leave me without bench cover in def

    Finnius123 · 26/06/2017 at 18:06

    Fisher to Bont

    Lazza · 26/06/2017 at 18:26

    Fisher and Berry have a few dollars in them yet … Scooter is ready to trade … might want to check on Fisher's return date … they rate him … so will play … In terms of your target 'ins' any of the 3…. Bont has bottomed out and is best value for money ..
    I'd go Scooter to Bonts..

    Tibor · 26/06/2017 at 18:54

    All three suggested ins are great. The out has to be scooter. Tend to agree with Lazza if Bont has bottomed out, real line ball call on quality with dusty.

Rick Grimes · 26/06/2017 at 17:56

Lynch to Roo. Couldn't do much worse, surely.

    Finnius123 · 26/06/2017 at 18:04

    sideways trade for no points gain. Try and get lynch to F7 and loophole him. That's what I am doing with Greenwood.

      Rick Grimes · 26/06/2017 at 18:19

      A fit Roo is consistent 80+ every week. Lynch chucking out 30s and hard to even see a ton on the horizon.

        Tibor · 26/06/2017 at 18:57

        Well said rick but you realise that nearly guarantees Lynch putting on a show next weekend

    Top Gun · 26/06/2017 at 20:38

    Roo is not fit. Huge risk.

      Rick Grimes · 27/06/2017 at 08:41

      Yea, I'll hold Lynch for one more week and see what the lay of the land is. Team announcements are likely to throw any planning straight out the window anyway!!

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:44

    Better to upgrade cow and run Lynch as f7 if possible.

neil Demons Delight · 26/06/2017 at 18:05

Usually cant read the long reviews but yours was interesting .It brings home where most of us are this year Mills Williams Fyfe and Wines are not quite there but I too am at that final stage and have Scooter and Lynch hardly prems more could be type players.. Next year pay the price will be my go and less prems maybe only 8 which will result in a slow start picking up more bargains post byes conserving trades good luck for the remainder Keen

    Keenbutclueless · 26/06/2017 at 18:42

    Thanks Neil. Same to you. Looking forward to bouncing some ideas off you in the pre-season

      neil Demons Delight · 27/06/2017 at 08:29

      how are you travelling After a bad year I am at 4.5 k so not too bad Too many bad decisions .looking forward to next year in the meantime go dees

    Moustachio · 27/06/2017 at 18:09

    Bear in mind if you paid the price for the #1 on all lines to start the year (Doc Danger Gawn NRoo), you would have come to regret 3/4 of those.

Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 18:13

is Lynch to Matthew White crazy? Means Greenwood will be holding down F6 but frees up 200k allowing me to go nank to gawn and Scooter to joel. Thoughts?

    Lazza · 26/06/2017 at 18:20

    Good outcomes for on field … what are your plans for White?

      Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 18:28

      Forward cover

    Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:33

    As long as you can accept Matt White might be an expensive donut it's alright.

      Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 18:33

      Go cheaper for a schoenmakers? Matthew White has the most potential i feel.

        jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 19:02

        Schoenmakers won't play many more games. Stratton due back from injury either this week or next.

    Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 20:07

    Callum brown?

      Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 20:16

      Got him

        Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 20:46

        Deluca 102k?

Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 18:13

Thoughts on holding Shaw at D6?

    Lazza · 26/06/2017 at 18:19

    Not if you are nearing full-premo.

    Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:33

    Not ideal.

    Whatyasmokin · 26/06/2017 at 18:34

    But if you can loophole with another rookie defender then might work ok. ie non playing defender and Ryan on bench.

      Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 18:38

      Got Scharenberg and joel smith on bench, probably not. Shaw to rance (cash restriction) this week a good trade?

        Tibor · 26/06/2017 at 18:50

        All depends how your trades remaining sits. Personally I'd love to move him on but limited trades and more pressing needs mean he stays

          Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 18:52

          If i make desired trades (Lynch-matthew white, Nank- gawn, Scooter-Joel, Shaw out) Would leave me 3 spare for injuries but a lot of cash. Risky situation

            Derek · 27/06/2017 at 00:07

            Please don't get White, nothing good will come from it.

    Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 20:09

    Yeah look that was my plan with how he had been playing but in really unsure. I could potentionally upgrade him to Docherty right now but I think I'm hold onto him for the moment have other plans like getting gawn in and potentionally upgrading lynch who is under performing.

Ruddigar · 26/06/2017 at 18:44

Lighten up francis

Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 18:45

Shaw to T-mac or rance?

    Tibor · 26/06/2017 at 19:01

    im a one eyed demon so I am happy with t mac but when Hogan and watts come back it is not clear what toms role will be, it could easily be back to some stuff that is not really SuperCoach score friendly so for me the head rules the heart, get rance

    jez_m · 26/06/2017 at 19:02

    Rance easily

    Top Gun · 26/06/2017 at 20:40

    I have rance and hurley. Hurley is so underrated

Tibor · 26/06/2017 at 19:08

Which week do people think is the best to get Gawn back in. Obviously wait one more at least but should it be a longer wait. I'm not fussed who his opponents are more just timing the right price, it will be goldy or Ryder to make way

    Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 19:29

    Have to wait and see what he scores but if he does well, I think the second week he could start going up again.

      INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 20:29

      Noticed Max is already in the top 10 trade ins this week. The answer is probably when the price suit your team. If you can make the transaction in one trade that's ideal

    Derek · 27/06/2017 at 00:05

    Gawn has 5 very tough opponents after this week. I'd have another look and see if he is playing well enough to score well over those 5 weeks.

    I think he'll do good, but $50k is a lot , worth the wait

Bells E Bubb · 26/06/2017 at 19:25

Viz Top Tip: Hey Lynch owners, why not compound the problem by trading him out for Patton (150 odd this round)?

ASADA · 26/06/2017 at 19:33

Def- Doch, adams, Laird, touhy, newman, mcgrath

Upgrading A.Mcgrath , with 528k in the bank
Howe , roberton, or hurley??
Or anyone else under that price

    Tommo · 26/06/2017 at 20:03

    Rance or Simmo maybe?

    Saints man · 27/06/2017 at 08:50

    Lloyd is your man

PlottingPlodder · 26/06/2017 at 19:42

Scooter and Shaw out into zerrett and dpp rookie
Leaving kitty to get berry or greenwood up to gawn next week.

8 trades left and will be full premo with that move (though lynch is in the team…..)

Jake.B · 26/06/2017 at 20:05

Got in witherden for Stewart and gives me 250k in the bank.
Hold onto tom lynch? Only got him in a few weeks ago but could potentionally upgrade him to Greene or Billings?

If I hold I'm not too fussed, just thought Greene and Billings may be better options or even Yeo/Heeney.

I have Greenwood as my last fwd and my plan had been to swap nank forward and trade Greenwood to gawn when gawn had bottomed out but the way greenwood is playing he could turn into a Newman and become a keeper. But if nank runs out of puff, instead a swap from nank to gawn would be on the cards.

Essentially i can plan to swap nank for gawn which allows me to trade lynch to a better player, or hold off and keep lynch as we know he will be a rollercoaster. I have 9 trades left. I'm really warming to lynch to a better forward. Otherwise I could keep lynch and swap Greenwood for a better forward when he bottoms out.

Decisions decisions decisions I'm really unsure argh

    Derek · 26/06/2017 at 23:57

    Hold Lynch. The Suns play nearly all there games Saturday afternoon and all but 1 before Richmond. I'd be looking at looping Lynch and Nank. Nank is DPP to loop into Ruck if Lynch does well

      Jake.B · 27/06/2017 at 21:06

      Hmm. For the moment I have swapped lynch for Yeo just to see what I would have left. Ok have to have a think about it but yes that could definatly be a handy option.

    Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 23:04

    Lynch, besides his terribly low scores, hasn't gone too bad this year, 9 out of 13 scores have been ok, with 5 tonnes.

Tommo · 26/06/2017 at 20:12

Alright lads ive got 9 trades left and 22k in the bank and my team looks like this:

DEF: Doc, Laird, Adams, Simmo, Rance, Stewart (Schaz, Ryan)

MID: Danger, Titch, Pendles, Oliver, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Lloyd (Myers, Cousins, Maynard)

RUC: Martin, Grundy (Strnadica)

FWD: Macrae, Dahl, Buddy, Nank, Tom J Lynch, JJK (Parsons, Greenwood)

Should i use 2 trades this week and get that final premo mid (would have to be Greenwood and Stewart to Bont and 102k rookie unless theres another mid premo that has dropped)


Wait for Jelwood to drop and try to get him by going Myers/Parsons and Stewart to Jelwood and DPP 102k rookie?

TIA for any advice

    INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 20:55

    Consider Myers to Brown or even Witherden this week & hope Ryan plays to cover D6. Get some money. Then perhaps take another price rise from Parsons & cash him out to maybe Cardilo-Deluca if he gets another game next week & you should have the cash to send Stewart to a 600k mid

      Tommo · 26/06/2017 at 21:13

      Cheers Pieman, youre a gem

        INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 21:26

        DPP rookies are gold from now on

          Derek · 26/06/2017 at 23:50

          Yep. Got Witherden last week instead of Ryan. 6/8 of my bench are DPP

          Northerner · 27/06/2017 at 04:29

          I like the non playing DPP rookies at this time of season. Freo and West Coast ideal because Sunday games. I was disappointed when the Freo hyphen was named as I had my eye on him. lost the GF last year because I only had a C loophole and no rookie loophole options for the main lines.

    Top Gun · 27/06/2017 at 11:29

    Hold Greenwood he is gold!

Sandinuts · 26/06/2017 at 20:12

Whos the better option out of Laird, Adams or Roberton? Also, would it be worth bringing in Riewoldt soon?

    Lazza · 26/06/2017 at 22:00

    Adams by the length of the MCG

    Derek · 26/06/2017 at 23:47


    jez_m · 27/06/2017 at 09:34

    Adams is far more consistent. Just probably doesn't have the ceiling of the other two.

Tommo09 · 26/06/2017 at 20:28

Thinking about trading Stewart and Hannan to a 102k rookie and maybe M.White as a POD F7???

This will allow me to trade Selwood and Sandi to Gawn and Rocky next week or the week after

    INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 21:32

    White has no guarantees of staying in the team. 12 years of historical numbers aren't pretty either

      Tommo09 · 26/06/2017 at 21:47

      Those numbers aren't great at all
      Anyone else to downgrade to or should I just go to a rookie???

        INPieman · 27/06/2017 at 07:50

        Looked up White in the preseason. Not SC relevant at that price. There is Brown Beech or Cardlio-Deluca. But don't like the JS of any of them

Steeeve · 26/06/2017 at 20:29

Thinking ill go Hannan to Gawn this week. Will cost an extra $50k but worth it for an extra week at full premo.

    BlueNath · 26/06/2017 at 21:17

    This week? Wait another week and it may be a straight swap! I just saved you $50k

      BlueNath · 26/06/2017 at 21:18

      Just reread your post! I would wait though. A week is a long time in footy as they say. Anything could happen

    Bells · 26/06/2017 at 23:12

    Madness. When one of your mids go down in next 6 weeks that 50k ensures you get whoever you want. Wait a week.

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:46

    If near the top it's a good trade as last upgrade. Points Wirth more than cash. If leagues in mind wait.

Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 20:33

Will Selwood drop to 550 and gawn to 515?

    Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 20:33


      BlueNath · 26/06/2017 at 21:15


    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:47

    About where I see them.

Joshua · 26/06/2017 at 20:37

Lynch to Matthew white and Shaw to rance or Lynch to Schoenmakers and Shaw to Howe?

    Northerner · 27/06/2017 at 04:22

    I like none of those options. Unless you are flush with trades, hold.

golf · 26/06/2017 at 20:55

Thoughts on who will win the flag?

    BlueNath · 26/06/2017 at 21:14

    I can't even confidently tip who will win each game

    joshunt7 · 26/06/2017 at 21:27

    GWS Geelong GF

    Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 21:42

    StKilda of course lol

    B T · 26/06/2017 at 22:47

    Giants or Swans. Maybe cats

      Deeboss · 27/06/2017 at 01:11

      Geelong Melbourne GF

    ProTravo · 27/06/2017 at 12:12

    Giants are on top and look as though they are just cruising.

    JohndJames · 27/06/2017 at 13:24

    There are still 12 in the race for the top 8 spots,so too soon to tell,lets wait and see the draw come the finals.

Stuck · 26/06/2017 at 20:58

Please help with trades. Will bring Gawn in and can probably afford a midfield premo as well.
Docherty, Laird, Rance, Hibberd (Melbourne), Newman, Berry (Scharenberg, Ryan)
Danger, Martin, Mitchell (Hawthorn), Jelwood, Bont, Lloyd (Sydney), SPP, McCluggage (Bolton, Brodie, Mountford)
Witts, Ryder (Cameron)
Heeney, Macrae, Wallis, Franklin, Nank, Grrenwood (Parsons, Eddy)
TIA for any advice

    BlueNath · 26/06/2017 at 21:13

    Don't get Gawn this week. He has not bottomed out yet. It really depends on how many trades you have left. But I would say Gawn is not a priority. You need to fill two midfield premo spots as a priority (best avenue of point generation). Then you have to get another premo for Berry in DEF. once these spots are filled should you then sure up team deficiencies.

      Stuck · 27/06/2017 at 15:31

      Ok, thanks. Which midfeild premise should I get? I can afford any at the moment.

        Stuck · 27/06/2017 at 15:31


    Iamme · 26/06/2017 at 23:48

    I plan this week to get Kruzer for the Nank and maybe next week when Gawn has bottomed out would be the time to swoop and I will offload Wittsy, who has been a star and made me 257,700…. Considering he started out at 217,600K, he has been a bargain for those like me who started with him..

      Thomas · 27/06/2017 at 12:44

      Thats a very expensive sideways trade, definitely not worth it

    redherringfc · 27/06/2017 at 16:37

    Lloyd and Berry are both dpp. Swap them around and your backs are complete.

    Now focus on those 3 mid spots. Without looking them up, I'd say SPP 1st to go and then take your pick. But keep Berry for DPP with backs.

    Bring in the best mids you can afford. Pendles (is the baby born yet? might miss a game), JPK been doing well and is probably underpriced still, Hanners (although he has been below par since i bought him), Oliver, Take your pick, but look for value – stay away from Sloane and Fyfe. You need value so you can fill your other spots with as few trades as possible.

    Next week, bring Gawn in for a forward or mid (greenwood to mid) put Ryder as a forward. You might need a 2nd trade for cash.

    These trades leave you 1 spot away from full premo.

      Stuck · 27/06/2017 at 20:28

      Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.

Richo · 26/06/2017 at 21:01

Dusty or Merrett who will score more for the remainder of the season??

    BlueNath · 26/06/2017 at 21:05

    Merrett. More consistent

    joshunt7 · 26/06/2017 at 21:28

    Dusty, goes big more often and is consistent enough.

      Lachy · 27/06/2017 at 01:28

      Zach has gone big more often…

        ProTravo · 27/06/2017 at 12:11

        Maybe, but Dusty has beaten Zerrett's highest score 4 times this season.
        Dusty is the ultimate VC option,

    B T · 26/06/2017 at 22:46


Dutch · 26/06/2017 at 21:10

Watching afl360 earlier the newsfeed at the bottom said Taranto is out for 10 weeks – afl website now says the same – in case anyone is still holding him

Doc · 26/06/2017 at 21:11

Is JJK a hold, or time to go?

Skinny on trades and currently looping greenwood and hannan.

    Northerner · 27/06/2017 at 04:19

    Hold. He's one more week.

    jez_m · 27/06/2017 at 09:36

    If you're low on trades, hold. His ownership has halved, so he'll be a nice POD.

Iain · 26/06/2017 at 21:23

Came second overall this week, 2556 and 500 big ones giddy up!i

    Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 21:44

    Nice job man..must be nice gettin paid to play Supercoach! 🙂

    INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 21:47

    Well done! Enjoy the loot

    ProTravo · 27/06/2017 at 12:09

    Well done Iain, how is your overall rank?

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:47

    Champion. Keep on smashen it

joshunt7 · 26/06/2017 at 21:26

Is it worth trading out Nank?? i only have 7 trades left with 450k in the bank.

    INPieman · 26/06/2017 at 21:47

    If that's the worst of your problems do it

    B T · 26/06/2017 at 22:46

    Nank to Gawn would be a good move if he's in your ruck.

Jamie · 26/06/2017 at 21:40

Is Fyfe to Jelwood a sreious option in two weeks time? I know sideways trades are luxury but this could be quality.

    Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 21:47

    Definitely a very sreious option…he'll be cheap cheap cheap!

    B T · 26/06/2017 at 22:46

    I did that move when Fyfe had his bye. Hasn't worked out yet, in 2 weeks Jelwood will be 500k or so. To hard to miss up on a premo like him at that price;

    Tyruddanaut · 27/06/2017 at 07:41

    Jelwood is a very high scorer. I'd do it

Jamie · 26/06/2017 at 21:45

Rookies are as follows, T Stewart, L Ryan, M Hibberd (NMelbs), J Cousins, Eddy, Preuss, Parsons, Hannan and greenwood. 12 trades left and 385k in the bank. Love to upgrade a rookie to Gawn, and another to mcrae but money may be tight for that plan. The rookies playing are all still making money though. Any suggestions?

    Jamie · 26/06/2017 at 21:48

    Could also do Adams potentially. Backs are Laird, Howe, Doc, Newman, Lloyd and Harbrow. Probs the last place that needs attention but Adams will be cheap after this round

    Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 21:54

    Stewart out for someone…and then maybe Preuss out for Gawn after he gets down in price, no point having Preuss's money on the bench with him never getting a game.

      Jamie · 26/06/2017 at 22:02

      held him this long, surely he gets a game soon right???

        Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 22:15

        Daw seems to be first choice ahead of him this season, the worst thing is, Preuss never did anything wrong, he played well!

    Derek · 27/06/2017 at 14:22

    it is a simple mathematical equation.

    who do you need to be at full premium?

    How much do they cost in total?

    How many rookies do you need to cull to get to your premium cost?

Willymack1234 · 26/06/2017 at 21:47

Heater to Lloyd with only 5 trades left a good or bad idea?

    Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 21:50

    That's pretty low mate, I'd hold unless you get injuries, otherwise you'll be stuffed.

    Derek · 26/06/2017 at 23:42

    Nah. Very sideways

Russty_ · 26/06/2017 at 22:04

Hope Pickett makes his breakeven…so he can make another 2.8 k ! 🙂

    Tyruddanaut · 27/06/2017 at 07:40

    Who are you hoping to get?

      Derek · 27/06/2017 at 09:06

      I wasn't able to loophole on weekend because he was playing, very annoying.

        The Ranger · 27/06/2017 at 09:41

        This years Menadue isn't he?!

      Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 14:27

      Was just hoping he gets another game is all lol..backup.

    INPieman · 27/06/2017 at 10:31

    He outscored Lynch. That's how bad he's travelling

      Derek · 27/06/2017 at 14:19

      did you see Zac kicked a couple on the weekend! he must be playing in the midfield?

Rocksta · 26/06/2017 at 23:07

I know JJ has had an ordinary year and can't handle a tag but surely he needs to be considered as a D6/7.
He's particularly attractive if you've got Adams as you can swing him into your mids if you have a mid injury and JJ as a D7.

    Tyruddanaut · 27/06/2017 at 07:40


    The Ranger · 27/06/2017 at 09:46

    Tempting at that price isn't he Rocksta?
    High ceiling too.
    I'd say yes if he was ya D7 but no if he's D6.

    Swans2012 · 27/06/2017 at 10:21

    Do the dogs play a lot of early games later in the year? You'd want to be able to see his score before taking…. but I think the idea is good, I've got McGovern at d7 otherwise I'd look at it!

NickMacMan · 26/06/2017 at 23:29

1. Beams & Scooter to Zerret & Neale
2. Beams & Nank to Zerret & Greene


    Rocksta · 27/06/2017 at 00:04


      Deeboss · 27/06/2017 at 01:14

      No. 3

    Tyruddanaut · 27/06/2017 at 07:40

    No. 1. Zerrett and Neale are top class

Albentley · 27/06/2017 at 06:45

Thinking of going nank to Jeremy Cameron. Thought guys.? Would leave me with 3 trades left though

    Tyruddanaut · 27/06/2017 at 07:38

    Very risky move. Nank has been consistent and reliable but Cameron relies on goals. He will only score well in high scoring encounters

      CJay · 27/06/2017 at 08:33

      With only 3 trades left, I would we saving them as Injuries will strike.
      The Nank has been a bit ordinary lately but he may fill back up to a full tank and come good.

    Swans2012 · 27/06/2017 at 08:53

    Hold the nank as ruck cover if nothing else

    Derek · 27/06/2017 at 09:04


      Albentley · 27/06/2017 at 10:25

      His average the last 7 rounds is only just above 70. Cameron is playing higher this year meaning he's getting more of the ball. I think nank has hit a wall also

        Derek · 27/06/2017 at 14:17

        did you just answer your own question

    Jimmy · 27/06/2017 at 11:03

    I would definitely be holding on to all your trades at the moment barring a season ending injury.

    redherringfc · 27/06/2017 at 16:47

    3 trades is not good. I'm planning on being on 6 after next week and hope that i can keep all of them for finals.

    Whatyasmokin · 27/06/2017 at 17:17

    Madness to do it with that amount of trades, maybe in another 5+ rounds.

hedski · 27/06/2017 at 08:24

Baby watch is back on peoples, Dangers missus is due in the next two weeks.

    INPieman · 27/06/2017 at 08:30

    Not this again!

      Rick Grimes · 27/06/2017 at 08:49

      Surely Danger will expertly clear the new born from the contested area and get to the game.

        INPieman · 27/06/2017 at 09:02

        Reckon he could still kick 4 holding a cradle

          Rick Grimes · 27/06/2017 at 11:58

          Even if he could just play a quarte he'll outscore a couple of my spuds. Lynch, I'm looking at you!

    Ruddigar · 27/06/2017 at 11:03

    After this week cats travel to Sydney for gws then to Brisbane the week after. They need to induce right now….

Rick Grimes · 27/06/2017 at 08:48

A refreshed Fyfe to score 150 this weekend and throw a huge cat amongst the pigeons.

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 27/06/2017 at 09:26

    Fyfe back to Lyfe?

    INPieman · 27/06/2017 at 09:31

    Now that would be nice

    The Ranger · 27/06/2017 at 09:40

    Fingers are crossed Rick

    Philosophy Pete · 27/06/2017 at 09:52

    I've tried that but the pigeons just fly away leaving the cat looking confused and alone.

      Deeboss · 27/06/2017 at 14:00

      50 I reckon…

TRIGGER HAPPY · 27/06/2017 at 09:45

Hero's this week the coaches.
Sure we had some guns missing but the boys in charge let us know early nit 1 hr before the game so at least we could try to put a contingency plan in place.
If you were named you played if not u didn't.
Villan Thursday night game as teams were announced 1 hr before kick off.
Most of us chucked the E on greenwood and hoped for the best.
But hey we made it, time to dust yourself off and go again.

    neil Demons Delight · 27/06/2017 at 11:48

    then there was SELWOOD GRRRR

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 27/06/2017 at 13:02

      yeah selwood casualty of own bravery only knows one way and will never change.

      beams mummified weclome to the club with mitch duncan,

jez_m · 27/06/2017 at 09:51

Josh Kennedy ruled out for another week. Still holding personally.

Steve · 27/06/2017 at 10:29

Bring in Brown or Witherden this week community?

    H Lee · 27/06/2017 at 10:38

    witherden looks the goods steve, plus brown has iffy JS with elliot and co. to return. maybe hold off the trade for one more week to see how witherden looks this week?

    INPieman · 27/06/2017 at 11:13

    Witherden lost his draft year to a busted leg playing school footy. As a result he landed in the bargain bin in the draft & cheap for what he really should be. I won't be surprised if Brown loses his spot this week. Witherden is a seriously classy player & I'm sure the Lions will be keen to pump as many games into him as possible. This week or next get him in

      Swans2012 · 27/06/2017 at 11:42

      Coach loves him as well pieman, remember reading somewhere he intended to play him as soon as his body was right, seems good to his word so far….

      Derek · 27/06/2017 at 14:15

      i brought Witherden in last week and therefore had an eye on him last week. he did a few really classy things. he had the ball about centre-half back and was about to kick it down the guts, but out the corner of his eye he saw a player on the wing and in mid-kick he was able to slice the ball off his outstep to the player by himself on the wing. i thought to myself there is a footballer who can play. (it might have been a lucky fluke)

    Derek · 27/06/2017 at 14:45

    what role do you want them to play?

    To make cash? Brown is on bubble.

    Job Security to have a warm body in case of injury? Witherden maybe.

    To have a DPP swing? Witherden is Def/Mid, where brown is Fwd/Mid. I would usually look at who you want to "match" them with and try and get from the same team, eg; i'll have greenwood as my F7/M9, but i'd prefer to have Jarmen as my swinger (also Fwd/Mid) because he is also from the crows and you won't have the problem of half of the swing has already played.

    To have an E or C loophole? both play plenty of Sunday games.

    to score the most? lord help you if you need them onfield

ASADA · 27/06/2017 at 10:57

Whats the go with murphy? Dropped under 500k and hasnt been hitting the scores that he was earlier in the season. Should we expect him to comeback or maybe trade him out to a more consistent premo?

    Tibor · 27/06/2017 at 11:13

    Stick now, opposition defensive effort will go to doc and Simpson kreuzer looking like all Aust ruckman may as well back Murphy in to get back to good scoring

    Whatyasmokin · 27/06/2017 at 17:10

    Was always going to happen with Murphy that's why many didn't jump on the early season bolter bandwagon.

    Moustachio · 27/06/2017 at 18:15

    Was never going to be a keeper, needed to be traded about 2 months ago

      Don't Blush Baby · 27/06/2017 at 18:18

      That's why is nickname is Smurphy – SOFT, should not be captain at that FC

Randomcliche2 · 27/06/2017 at 11:00

Zzzzzzz……. hit the snooze button half way through that pathetic rant.

Thomas · 27/06/2017 at 11:07

Lynch or SPP on field?

NickMacMan · 27/06/2017 at 11:20

Neale or JPK

    Pitch 72 · 27/06/2017 at 11:55

    JPK, its that time of year for him.

    Finnius123 · 27/06/2017 at 11:58

    Neale POD and gun

    ProTravo · 27/06/2017 at 12:07

    Neale is a POD, JPK better form.

Bhargs · 27/06/2017 at 11:27

13 trades left
$17.9k in the bank

DEF: Doc, Laird, Lloyd, Shaw, J Martin, T Stewart (Perryman, Ryan)

MID: Danger, Titch, Pendles, Bont, JPK, SPP, Fyfe, Greenwood, (Barett, C Brown, J Atley)

RUC: Witts, Z Smith (Strnadica)

FWD: Macrae, Dahl, Buddy, Westhoff, Yeo, Nank (McInnes, Taranto)

Still lots of trades till full Premo and need Help 🙁

    Tommy Mac · 27/06/2017 at 11:57

    That is actually the worst team ive ever seen

      TheGreatBozza · 27/06/2017 at 12:17

      That's a bit stiff mate. There'll be much worse out there

      GloryDays90 · 27/06/2017 at 13:51

      Wow mate this site is all about helping one another not being a D#ck. If your going to say stuff like this then i suggest you leave and dont come back.

    The Ranger · 27/06/2017 at 12:07

    Time to go shopping Bhargs, you've got loads of trades.
    Stewart and Barrett out will give you 685K to spend.
    Get Adams into your backline and pick up Witherden as a handy bench player.
    Then next week move on Taranto and SPP. and get another premo mid.

      Rick Grimes · 27/06/2017 at 12:44

      You need to get trading fast! Go one down, one up. Stewart to Witherden and Barrett to Zerrett would be my move this week. Next week Taranto to a rookie and Perryman to Adams. Week after PP to rookie and Greenwood to an ultra premo. Any cash thereafter should be used to upgrade the likes of Westoff, Nank and Smith. You have the trades, it's just moving the pieces around to earn as much bang for your buck as possible.

        Rick Grimes · 27/06/2017 at 12:53

        Now I do the math you probably don't have the cash for my first trade suggestion. Maybe look at Oliver instead, he;s been very consistent. Robbie Gray could be an inspired pick too, has a massive ceiling and is cheap. In a couple of weeks grab Selwood cheap as chips too.

          Ricky · 28/06/2017 at 11:14

          You've got quite a few trades left, but i love the creativity in your team! Keep it up buddy

      Bhargs · 28/06/2017 at 13:38

      Cheer's mate!

    B-rian · 27/06/2017 at 13:22

    Maybe double downgrade this week. With the aim of getting Adams and gawn next week when they have bottomed out. Then get selwood the week after.

      ProTravo · 27/06/2017 at 15:51

      This isn't a bad idea. I would assume you're not going to be going for overall rank.
      Double downgrade this week would put you in a prime position for some premo's that will be very cheap next week and would benifit your team better in the long run.
      Gawn and Jelwood would be good targets.

        Bhargs · 28/06/2017 at 13:40

        Yeah nah not going for overall, league win would be enough for me. I think I might go double downgrade to get adams and Gawn next week

ProTravo · 27/06/2017 at 12:13

Pendlebury vs T.Mitchell

Who would you take?

    Max · 27/06/2017 at 13:01


    Finnius123 · 27/06/2017 at 13:01

    Titch is more consistent this year

Max · 27/06/2017 at 12:58

Stewart to Witherden
Nank To Gawn

    Lazza · 27/06/2017 at 13:14

    Do it … but chk the price differential between Nank and Gawn.. better financially to wait another week.. but points wise do it now..

      Lazza · 27/06/2017 at 13:15

      i.e how much Nank will lose vs Gawn

JohndJames · 27/06/2017 at 13:27

Does anyone know how long Stewart and Beams are going to be out for,was going to keep them,since I'm very low on trades.

    Thomas · 27/06/2017 at 13:45

    Not sure on Stewart. but Beams is out for a month

      JohndJames · 27/06/2017 at 13:54

      OK thanks Thomas,I might have to trade him out then,if it had been only two weeks or so,I wouldn't have worried,but four could turn into five,too long to have a rookie on the field in place of him.

    FCAbel · 27/06/2017 at 13:49

    Beams a month. Stewart maybe this week I hear.

      Box · 27/06/2017 at 13:56

      Stewart is having facial surgery which could be long term…………

Deeboss · 27/06/2017 at 14:02

7 trades left…

Holty · 27/06/2017 at 14:07

Trading Lynch for The Bont. I know its sideways but with plenty trades left and 1 upgrade required, might as well. Then will look to bring in Macrae for the last forward spot. Will loophole Greenwood and Ainsworth for the M6 for a few weeks.

matthewspangher · 27/06/2017 at 14:30

dusty or j.selwood to finish off the midfield?, was planning on dusty but the thought of sewood at $450k or so in a couple of weeks seems too good to pass up

    Benjamin B · 27/06/2017 at 15:56

    I've got Dusty, i feel he is a must. However I'm filling my final mid spot with Jelwood once hes bottomed out in 2 weeks.

    Id say wait for jelwood just due to cash. Maybe get dusty down the track with a sideways trade from an underperforming premo mid if you have the trades

cattery · 27/06/2017 at 15:24

Trade out Newman or Shaw for Adams?

    Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 15:37

    Shaw for sure!

    Benjamin B · 27/06/2017 at 15:53


Benjamin B · 27/06/2017 at 15:47

Who scores more from here on in.
Heeney, Billings, Gray, Wallis?

    DacZawson · 27/06/2017 at 16:24


      Holty · 27/06/2017 at 16:33


    Holty · 27/06/2017 at 16:32

    Im assuming you are looking for a forward?
    Gray isnt a forward.

      Benjamin B · 27/06/2017 at 16:55

      Yeah my bad.. thought he ha DPP. Heeney it is

Holty · 27/06/2017 at 16:20

Im assuming you are looking for a forward?
Gray isnt a forward.

JohndJames · 27/06/2017 at 17:26

This week are people going with Bont /Doc for VC and Danger C. or Danger VC and Merrett / Pendles C.

    Defying_Madness · 27/06/2017 at 17:36

    Big kreuzer for mine

Daz · 27/06/2017 at 17:52

Doc to Danger for me

Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 18:19

Podcast is up.

joshunt7 · 27/06/2017 at 22:03

who should I upgrade Barrett to? I got 7 trades left with 415k in the bank, but need to save about 200k for some trades later. Was thinking between Bont, Rockliff and sloane as Barrett is due to drop as much as the last two I said.

    Russty_ · 27/06/2017 at 23:02

    Out of those 3…BONT all day.

Ricky · 28/06/2017 at 11:16

Hey guys, do you think i should go trade out heppell? I can get any other mid, what are your thoughts

    adrian · 28/06/2017 at 11:18

    Hey mate, i recommend going to someone like Josh Kelly, i reckon he's a gun and some big SC scores are coming up for him

Pablo · 28/06/2017 at 17:06

Yeo, Macrae or Heeney to finish my forward line? Dogs still playing inconsistent footy which looks to affect Macrae's output. Heeney and swans seem to have hit some form. Yeo and WC- at least they have a run of home games. I don't trust Billings to be a consistent alternative.

Alan · 29/06/2017 at 13:27

Yeo or Greene guys?

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