Round 12 SuperCoach Midround FAT CHEW
CAPTAINCY IS THE ISSUE OF THE ROUND.
Who will you whack the skipper’s hat of destiny on this week? Pendlebury. Treloar. Titchell.. this is a big decision folks
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Pendlebury or Mitchell as captain?
Mitchelli vince going to pendles
Titch for safer option. Pendlebury for higher ceiling, the guy can handle a tag. Vince will probably tag Trealor or Adams easy target to get in under their skin.
Titch into Pendles
Docherty worth the 2 trades to get him in? or just go with Hibberd for 1 trade. Got 12 at the moment.
And go ABLETT!!!
If your playing someone with Doch in the second half of the season & you don't have him you will shit your pants. Get him in
I still don't have him. I haven't been sleeping well
Doch or Valium Derek. I'll have both
Agree with pieman
Just got doc in. Fels amazing
Lock the Doch
Have to have him
In next week for me
Thinking maybe Newman, Steele and Myers to Buddy/Macrae, Doch and a rookie
Any on the bubble rookies playing in R13?
If not then I may just trade him to a 102k rookie
Thoughts?
If you have trades for this rnd go Myers to cousins. Do the other two next week
Already traded Barrett to Cousins
Only ainsworth and ainsworth ain't worth it I reckon. Hold till next week and hope another rookie gets named or jump on brown from Collingwood early if he plays alright
I've gone real risky Dixon vice captain and Jeremy Cameron captain
What a cracking sets of balls you've got Dylan. Could be genius & could leave you in the foetal position
That's the definition of balls out supercoaching. Good man.
I'm impressed you have them at all
Guess you won't be taking Dixons score.
Guess you have to take Cameron's score.
Sloane spudded, Rockliff C. Unless Docherty/Treloar are better options?
Rockliff
I've gone Rockliff and have soiled three pairs of undies so far
sloanes being a knob jockey ay
im captaining docherty
Hanners spudded as VC, tossing up between Doc, Beams or Treloar as C. Currently on Doc. Thoughts?
I'd be a bit concerned about Vince tracking Treloar. Doch will be busy against the Giants
Agree with Pieman on Treloar. Think he will cop the tag over Pendles.
Not treloar. Id go.beams
Hey community, Can anyone shed some light as to why Jack Steele only had 64% TOG last night? You'd think he'd be fresh coming off the bye? Not conducive to good SC scoring :' (
I agree
Needs a bigger tank
Although, that just might be his rotation in the midfield
You can see why the Giants moved him on. You couldn't have Sheila & Steele sitting on the pine all day
According to http://www.afl.com.au Steele's average TOG this year is 73.1% so it's a bit of a drop off on his normal game time.
If my captains score is lower than my top 18 scores prior to it being doubled (yes I took Sloane after Hanners teased with a 101 and clearly Sloane can't handle a tag!), do I get m vc score doubled or is there a disclaimer in relation to the captains score?
You get the VC as your captain score and Sloane won't count
Might have to bench a few of your rookies to make that happen
You dont get the VC score as your captain
I think you'll still get the selected captains score mate
From my understanding with C it gets doubled. Sloane scored 66=132 points, which means every other players you have, has to score over 132 in order to get your VC score.
Your captain took the field and scored points. Doesn't matter what you do that is locked in. It's not possible for the vc to become the C now.
Its best 18 scoring players during bye rounds. If you're fielding 19 players. One player with lowest score cancels out as not playing. But in this case Sloane score 132, so it will count to your teams total score.
Even if Sloane scored 3, with the C that's 6, and you had 22 available players we can easily assume Sloane wouldn't make the final 22. But the captaincy hat still wouldn't then pass over to your vc. Once your capt takes the field sc locks it in. It's irreversible then.
Which part don't you understand. Lowest score cancels out as a non playing player. If Sloane only scored 6, he'll automatically considered as a non player(0 point) like you would use Strnadica for Capitan loophole.
Set a Captain (and Vice Captain) as you normally would for double points. If your Captain's doubled score is NOT in your Best 18 scores, then their points will not count – you simply get your Best 18 scores only. Similarly, if your Captain's doubled-score is NOT in your Best 18 scores, you do NOT automatically receive double points from your Vice Captain – your Vice Captain only receives double points as per any other round, if your Captain does not play for any reason.
This is from the herald sun FAQ on bye rnd. The vc will not become c.
Thanks Wedge.
Read the rules mate, Wedge is correct. The captain played so no VC. If the C doubled is not in the best 18 it drops out and you have no captain.
Yeah but when you loophole, your vc plays first. You don't get a free hit at the c and then fall back on the vc if your captain duds it up. You take your vc's score and then change your c to a non playing player.
I'm an unhappy camper this week. Had the VC on Hanners and chose not to use it. Left the big C on Sloane and got burnt for the first time in living memory. Oh well. At least I have 21 players on the park.
I feel your pain. Had the C on Eddy earlier this year and he just didn't have a good game.
The week after I had C on Gawn when he did his knee.
Danger, Selwood or Pendles are my only C options.
I've gone Rocky (VC) into J.Kelly (C)
Can't go wrong.
Don't speak too soon
Is Rockliff worth trading in this week? Obviously a risk with his shoulder and injury history but the blokes a gun. Or should I play it safer and go Zorko?
Your On a winner picking either. Your Nads stay at regular size with Zorko which is what I've done this week, but they grow a bit bigger if you pick Rocky.
I went Rocky.
In 2016 after coming back from a 2nd injury stint he scored ten 100 games out of the remaining 12 and the first game back after that injury was a 204 vs Carlton.
2015 was slightly different he go injured the week before the bye and was out 3 extra weeks but played every game from Round 15 with 8 of the 9 games being 100+ games, too.
Thanks fellas!
I think it's time to show some testicular fortitude and get the great man in.
Will be getting him in when S.Selwood peaks in price
Not much love for Fyfe as VC/C option. Past 11 games he's only drop twice sub 80, 3 times just below 100 and 6 times 100+. He's due for a massive score, playing against the Lion today and a bye next week. I really think he'll go huge today.
T Lynch or Docherty for VC option?
I'd go Lynch. Due for a big bag and a huge score. That's what the VC loopholes for. Have a crack!
Lynch because I was going to pick him up this week but grabbed doc instead. I always get burnt so my burn can be your joy
Like Lynch
Would have gone him for C but didn't trust him if Mitchell failed
Hey guys, should i buy Pendles this week or next week get J Selwood?
pendles has a bye next week so I would hold off and pick up Joel
Out of Ainsworth, Cousins and Sharenberg. Who would be the number 1 priority to get in this week?
Cousins named in midfield and is rookie priced
Cousins got a 40. Complete dud. Glad I didn't get him
I copped a lot of heat for admitting I traded Laird out for Doc. So let me explain.
I need Doc. Everyone does. It was going to require two trades to get him in for Marchbank. Then I'd be munching donuts next round.
Laird had a 160+ break-even. I can bring him back after his bye at a slight discount. And since he'll be $60-$70K cheaper than Doc I can go straight from Marchbank.
In both cases I use just two trades. But Laird out means I have 18 next week.
Bad move? Well it's easy to say that especially after Laird's big night. But I'm doing well in the rankings and don't want to fall behind next week. How many of the people calling me an idiot will field 18 next round?
Let's not forget a past winner traded out Ablett Jr at the peak of his powers when he wasn't injured. There are many ways to skin a cat.
If you've traded wisely & have plenty of trades up your sleeve then that's a solid plan. If your low on trades then those sorts of moves could bite you
The thing is you've traded out Laird who will likely be top 3 defender for another top 3 defender who cost more. Laird might drop 50K but a trade is worth 100K and trade is precious.
The past winner who traded out Ablett, he had the luxury of trades up his sleeves. He traded Ablett as he had his bye for a fallen premo and pocketed juicy cash in the bank to bring back Ablett with only 1 trade plus the cash he saved from Ablett. He did that trade and not have to worry of Ablett pumping 150+.
I see similarities. He still needed two trades, one out one in. I miss one game of Laird as he will return straight after the bye. Unfortunately it was a massive score I missed. It's still only two trades.
Other difference is I'm not making money. Doc is pricey. However it will help me during the round 13 bye. I might regret it but it's better to swing for the fences and fail than play it safe and finish 15,000th
Exactly, you're not making anything. And yes I'm fielding 19-20 next week. 21 this week.
A lot of people ranked decently burn trades like this to stay there. Then the winner will come majestically from slightly further back in the pack and laugh at you with their non panicked optimal trade use.
I have no doubt plenty of people will surpass me but for now I have a shot and would rather take it. It's two trades either way to bring Doc in. This way I have 18 next week.
Same amount of trades used.
I don't mind it…its kinda 'Pimp my ride' stuff, which I don't mind….18 on the park is important I reckon.
Need to open up a swing option for nank in the ruck. Gonna standica. But is it worth paying extra for buzza. Can anyone see him getting a few games with the cats pushing for top 2?
buzza??
Wylie Buzza. He's real
A Cousin of Wylie Coyote
14 trades left, should I go Balic > Cousins?
Not much of a cash grab but I'm hesitant to go early on any of the other mid rookies I've got.
Balic would probably need a spell in the 2s for a few weeks when he comes back to WA, so not sure why I'm so hesitant. Doubt we'll see him again this year. Few players I'd like to upgrade so trades will be important (Shaw, Newman, Fyfe, Scooter, Steele…), but so is cash I guess
Cheers all
when do the bye players get locked?
The moment the opening bounce happens in the last game. Monday
C on Pendles or Rocky?
rocky
Ah them SuperCoach Gods had to get me sooner or later, 120 was the worst id taken all year till last nights 6 f%@#$K!Ng 6 from Sloane …. I should of stuck with the Man Pendles….
Hodge and Touk Touk both late outs, Lynch looking even better now that the hawks have lost their defensive general.
Mitchell getting robbed the 1 week I put him captain
Hope he has a big second half for ya..that goal helped a bit.
Yeah he has 20 less supercoach points compared to his dreamteam somehow. Lets hope he goes big thanks mate
Bugger all contested, all handballs. Average efficiency, No 1%'s. Barely any tackles.
Gazza 57 after 1 quarter, might have to get him next week…little bald legend.
aaand does bugger all in the second quarter, i'll shut up now before I jinx him any further.
Still ended up with 19pts for the quarter thanks to about 6 posies in the last 3 min.
Not a big loss there, Fyfe's been just ok but ok might not be good enough at finals time.
Captaincy. Would have been better with Ablett's half time score over what Sloane produced. Should have known better. Saw the wet all week in a Sydney and expected JPK to dominate and used the VC. Should have taken it.
Ditto. Hurts.
Last minute trade. Was holding barrett for one more week for cash generation but decided to go lynch 1min before bounce. Although happy so far, did also trade parsons to Ainsworth as i feel he is a gun. Hasnt done much so far but is just coming back from injury i guess
What the hell is this umpiring
Gaz is an absolute champion. On track for 150 at this stage.
Got the C on him….yippee!
Nice job Ranger…I wonder how many will be thinking of going Sloane to Ablett next week?
Could leave major burns that trade. Season defining scars.
Yeah I guess it doesn't matter if they tag him and waste 2 players doing it like the pathetic Saints did, and they win anyway.
If he starts copping a tag every week though, he'll be the burnman for coaches who own him.
Very much enjoying Pav's commentary. First year in the caper and he's clear and insightful.
Yeah I agree Northerner, seems very Footy savvy and has a good voice for it, not sure about Nick Dalsanto though lol
Do we take T.Mitchells score he way he is going
Should push around 110-120
He's had 33 disposals, must've been butchering it.
Has been very influential IMO should be a lot higher
On 92 now, he needs to get a goal for ya DM, get that total up to 120-130.
Go with cousins score or gamble on Barrett
Unless he scores another 30+ in the next 15 minutes BONT, I'd go with Barrett.
Thanks for the input appreciate it.
Go Hawks!…it'd be good to have at least one close game this week!
This is what I wanted to see this year as a Hawks fan. Even if we lose we are taking the game on which is what I wanted to see
Jeez Brand really screwed you then…gave away the 50 and he missed the goal initially.
Yeah looking like we lost but oh well
They were ultra risky picks considering Sloane's scores recently.
Yep, Sloane into Pendles would have been a much better option, but then Pendles was ordianary too.
Amazing how influencial ablett is. He comes off for 10min and Hawks get back into the match. Comes back on and he steadies the entire side down.
I wonder what will happen to the Gold Coast if he goes back to Geelong next year…..wooden spoon?
Good chance
Bloody hell Roughy! C'mon I was hoping you would get a decent score this week against an easier side and out of the 12 goals your team has scored, even as FF, you can't kick one. Goodbye either next week or the week after because I can't do this anymore
hawthorn players irrelevant apart from T.M & B.Mc
fair enough.
Do I take the score of 111 from Titch
Who would you put if you dont?
Do I take the score of 111 from Titch or go with DOC
take a punt on doc 111 unders
Take Titch's score.
Titch 111 as captain pre scaling. Hopefully squeeze a few extra points out of him. 117 would be nice. I will take his 230 as captain. Job done.
This round any vc score of 110+ should be concidered with so many top end players out this bye
Thank you gazza for the 147×2! What a champion
I have 2 days to decide whether to pick Titch as captain (111) or take Oliver's score. Not long enough
take olivers score trust me he will go big!
Im rolling the dice on oliver.
Hopefully he has a blinder
i
have 12 trades left can downgrade Pruess to Stradinca then go Myers to Doc this week or should i wait a week to do the same Trade im thinking Myers will score over his b/e and Doc wont reach 128 but want to score as many as possible for my rank
For rank then trade.
I'm thinking doc will reach 128
Rather than responding to all of the Titch comments I am just going to give my opinion here – take the 111. Anything over 110 is good, and with no dangerfield perma-captain this round and the huge speculation about who to pick anyways I would definitely be taking it.
Well said and agree
Ended on 113. Very solid score, I think you have to take it with Danger out
Witts a keeper for sure. May even have to trade Goldy to Gawn if Maxy looks a must have later.
Wits amazing lone ruck
Will have to factor him in if I need to replace Steff in future
He is only getting better each week also. Pretty consistent
Yeah I'm keeping him, not many more reliable options really.
Done just pulled it then 40k in the bank for next week looking for a forward rookie downgrade then to go stewart to lloyd the following week
Do you get the VC score if you put the C on someone with the Bye (Nank)
Yep
Titch gets 100 then no 120 then yes. What to do with 111? Zac,Doc or Ebert are options.
113…I'd probably take that to be safe.
Yep Russty. You and Finnius sold me, there is always another Sloane around the corner. 113 + 113 + say 140 = 366. 140+ 140 + 113 = 393.. Safe better.
Hope it works out for you Billi
I really regret trading out Beams. Might even consider bringing him in very cheap and the bye has only helped him
Zorko is a machine!
If he was in a good team he would be a match winner
Docherty, Pendles, Adams or Zerret as captain which one should i go??
Whoever I suggested captaining Zorko to, I hope you did it!
NNOOOOO I WENT ZERRETT. Can't be that unhappy though as I brought him in this week and has been a great buy. Can't believe he is in only 4% of teams.
He is a great pickup. Major POD. Let's keep him on the down low 🙂
I did not mention it here, but Zorko is my C.
Berry, Barret and Fyfe ❤️
Is it the best 18 out of the 22 that get counted for score ?
My opponent has 19 out of 22 playing. Their D6 is McGovern with Newman as Emergency. Given they already have min 18 playing, im hoping Newmans score is not counted?
Best 18 onfield as far as I'm aware of.
Newman is considered on field because McGovern isn't playing
Who upvoted this lol.
Newman score will be considered because McGovern has the bye.
Thats horse sh*t. lol
Went Titch to Ebert!!! Made 100k and helps my rd 13. Will pick up Mitchell back after rd 13 he should drop 25k after this rd. hope it works!!
That is insanity.
You must have trades to burn, good one if that helps you overall, I'm starting to get worried about not having enough trades left now.
Same Russty
My only luxury is next week as u already know I'm going Shiel to Bont and hope to increase scoring 15 pts per round at a cool cost of around 55k
Starting to worry about the Bont a bit too Dave,with the Bulldogs going to crap it seems, maybe Zorko or Ablett's a better option?
Was waiting for your move Shaker, round 3 next week I think, I'm out for revenge.
Had to take the risk Hedski!! Hatrick sounds good!!
Rigged scoring CD loves Beams blah blah
6 touches one goal 40 sc*
Looks fair to me. 71sc points and 62dt points.
Nice.
Ok community need captain advise myself too
Notable players left that all can ton up
Treloar, Adams, Oliver, Kelly and Hibberd……shoot!
Kelly…he's in great form, Treloar or Adams could be tagged, Hibberd doesn't usually go big enough for the C…or Oliver could go big too. Kelly or Oliver.
I like Oliver after the bye should go big
Gday guys, have Pepper-Powell, have two spare this week and 18 next (pending selections).
Worth flipping to Howe now or even a sneaky McGovern?
I'd consider May over Howe for next week, still cheap and no sense trading now if you don't need to. Depends on how you're faring this week though.
Yeesh, held onto SPP, regretting it!
Short term win for me. Grabbed Gazza this week and put the C on him. ✅ now I hope he stays fit for the long term goal. Risk vs reward
Hey benchmark, I think he's proven over the past several weeks, his body's in good nick,with the big scores he's been knocking out, so I think a good choice for you.
Stefan Martin is back in business. 66 SC at half time. Archie can fumble about up forward. Just leave the ruck work up to big Stef. Looks like Rocky is not his usual self. Only 11 disposals up to half time. Perhaps that shoulder is still a bit raw. Good to see Fyfe getting amongst it a bit today. (60 SC)
The question with Fyfe is without these goals his score would be subpar
Fyfe too slow for the ever evolving game. Injuries have worn down his legs some so the days of him getting 30+ touches are long gone for mine. Still a gem of a player when firing though
2014 – 2016
41 games 21 of them 29+
This season 11 games only 3 games 30+
Fyfe is very quickly turning into the Supercoach disappointment for 2017. At half time I still had some hope, but his second half was p-ss weak. Pathetic. Guy needs to have a hard look at himself in the mirror.
If your captain's score (Sloane) isn't in your top 18, does it still count
Gary out with a shoulder. Hmmm better trade him. Nek minute! Can't Take a trick this year
Gary's high scores make me laugh. His low scores make me sad
Looks like he might be over it…could always get him back?
He is a tasty M9 this season when bottomed out
You can't put Garry Ablett at M9
I can get him back but it takes compromise. But I love Gary & I'll slaughter some ass clown for him. Perhaps Fyfe. I am getting sick of him
That'd be a valid trade IMO, Fyfe and Freo are spudding it.
Ryan's only a point behind him…go Ryan!
Same. Can't believe that Fyfe has done so poorly. Two weeks when I'm full premo I'd say he will go. Sad really.
After full team I am considering God into my team. Alleluia
Hopefully for you…and other Stef owners, Smith will be ditched next week Dave..just for peace of mind.
Yeah he looks rubbish this game
Luke Ryan amongst Freo's best. Glad I went a fraction early on him. Will be taking his score as emergency over Scharenburg.
Definitely now Finn, on 63 with a quarter to go.
Will end up on 90 odd
Definitely trading him in for one of Stewart of EVW after his bye next week.
C'mon Fyfe, Every time I check the scores you've gown down. Please stop
Fyfe is out of my team. Has had a shocking game, would be on 40 points without the goals
Not sure he's touched it third qtr. Hasn't really moved since half time
Fyfe will burn you all after the byes if you trade him….
Fyfe isn't life anymore, Fyfe is Shiteffe lol
Trading Fyfe for anyone I can affoed next week, no longer can we say "Fyfe is Life" when it comes to SC.
If fyfe is life euthanasia me
Fyfe to Bont might be my move
Want to see him play one more game after the bye
If he plays badly Bang Bang to Gaz/Rocky
my defence line has all 6 players playing this round
Have Rance and Ryan on bench with E on Ryan
If I swap Perryman with Rance do I get Ryan's score? (I understand I won't if it's not best 18)
Anyway can't see Perryman scoring more than 55 in a full game
yep you will
Ty bud
Too many V's
Na, I'm on VB #12, all good.
Still umming and ahhing over turning SPP into Ebert before the PA v ESS game starts tonight. Ebert is a great POD in only 3% of teams, is consistent in that he has a low score of 90 and appears to be in careeer best form. Can anyone see any reason not to do this trade?
Apart for simply saving a trade, no, but SPP could get another 90. If you see Ebert as a keeper, yes.
Yes. I like that ownership %.. No seriously i have been banging on for weeks now re Ebert. Great POD thus far. Get him.
Get him. Spp wont make you much more money. He has done his job.
I think somebody suggested Brisbane to beat Freo the other day was paying good odds. Looks like easy money now, hope they took it up!
Hi guys, if someone is emergency can they come on your field as a score. I have all 6 defenders playing and berry on the bench, can his score count in my bye round 18?
Berry won't count.
Dayne Beams has been absolutely huge these last couple of weeks. Who held him?
Wish I had of Fin, thought he was a 4+ with the quad so traded to Pendles.
I think everyone followed that line of thinking – turns out he just needed the break.
He's killing it.
Well done!
Got rid of him as soon at the time he got injured. Hindsight is a beautiful thing. If you have kept him Finnius, cudos mate! You have been rewarded in spades.I flicked Sandi 3 weeks ago and got bagged for doing it. Hindsight is in my favour there. I kept Treloar after his form slump earlier this year, and he came back with a bang. You win and lose some in this caper.
Dumped him but you needed to if you were going for overall or you get left behind
Yep held him…….happy days.
Wish I'd kept him Finn, traded him for Pendles when he went down with injury, might trade Fyfe for him?…lol
I am considering it
Yep held, burning trades everywhere this year BUT not sideways. One of my few good decisions
Should've fielded Barrett instead of SPP……
Why didnt you loop him. I did
Far out I didn't even see…. had a busy week so completely forgot to even loophole.
I mean Barrett's price is going to be high so thats a good think i guess.
Lets just hope SPP can do something against Essendon