Community – I have an apology to make. To everyone who had Marcus Bontempelli before Round 8: I am sorry. I should not have brought him in. I should not have jinxed him.

He had averaged 89 over his past three rounds, and last night he put up a genuinely shocking display. He still managed to put up a score of 92, which I assume must have been on the back of his 11 tackles considering his disposal efficiency was 38% and he had 5 frees against.

Anyway, I’ve learnt my lesson and will not be trading any other premiums into my side ever again. Probably. Maybe. (If you also brought Kruezer in this week, sorry in advance)


A few new rookies this week, with Brennan Cox (117k FWD/DEF) lining up for his debut for Fremantle, Jono Beech (117k FWD) and Callum Brown (117k MID/FWD).



Beyond that, there’s not too much news in the bye rounds. There’s just the minor fact that the three factors during the bye all impact my team, which is going to make me scream.

Jarrod Hardbrow was caught drink driving on Sunday, and as such has a club-imposed suspension this week, which begs the line of ‘it’s only wrong if you get caught’, but that line can sod off considering drink driving is really, really bad. Bad Jarrod. Putting lives at risk AND causing carnage in my backline. Pull ya head in, son.

Aaron Sandilands will continue to miss, at which stage many of us (myself included) are trading. Mi amigo General Soreness discussed the case for keeping him on Twitter, by which he’ll make a good POD on the way home, but I’ve got 15 due to the Hardbrow/Sandi/NRoo saga so I’ve gotta trade him, but I’d hold him if I could. Nick Riewoldt also misses again.

Tom Rockliff returns for the Lions while bubble boy Dallas Willsmore has been dropped, Chad Wingard is back and so is Stevie J.

And that’s about it!


So, you’ve decided to ditch Aaron Sandilands? Who do you go to?

Matt Kruezer has averaged 115 over his last 5 and 123 over his last 3 and is the standout to replace old Sandiballs. Hitting his stride as the Blues hit theirs, and is only 525k. Doesn’t have the greatest run home in terms of rucking opponents but his work around the ground counters that for mine.

The Mummy reviews have been terrible, but that’s because they didn’t cast Shane Mumford. The big man has been the standout ruckman for the year, and I’ve considered bringing him in quite a few times, only to convince myself he’ll fall over and injure himself two weeks after I bring him in. As I won’t be bringing him in, he should be safe. 540k and averaging 105.

Stefan Martin was in ripping form until Archie Smith made his was into the team. Don’t touch him with a barge pole unless Archie is sent back to the NEAFL.

Hold Sandi. In a year of turbulence – if you’ve got the cover, you might as well save the trade. Sandi will be no better or no worse than whoever you bring in for him, and in a month or so could make a very easy straight swap to Max Gawn when he’s on the comeback trail – assuming Gawn cutting his beard hasn’t robbed him of his powers. Would be my preferred option if I had 18 players otherwise.


Somebody once told me this season’s gonna roll me
Because I ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed
But whaddaya gonna do with Shaun Higgins in you crew
Giving you shit stains every weekend


If you didn’t sing that, I’m ashamed of you. So – we have a new segment! I’m taking Higgo’s DraftStars Acadamy and running with it, as I’d like to be good at some form of Fantasy Football by the end of this year.

This week I want to test a theory – the winning team often ends up with the bulk of the points. I had a squiz at the weekend’s games to get some rough stats on what the winners this week all ended up with points-wise


Table of stats
I put that on a graph and correlation between the margin and the number of tons and 90s scored by a respective side is incredibly weak, but it’s reasonably well accepted that sides which win generally score more points. So – I’ve set out to test that this week. I’m backing Collingwood in to win this week – not for any particular reason, more for the sake of the argument. All of my eggs have now gone in the Collingwood Win basket, by selecting 6 Pies and 3 Demons – with two of those demons are selected as defenders.



I’m banking on Brodie Grundy being a monolith in the ruck against stop-gap Cam Pederson, which will give Collingwood’s midfield first use of the ball. As such, Taylor Adams (averaging 118 if you don’t mind) is first picked, with outside runners Tim Broomhead and Tom Phillips (who’s coming off a 98) supplementing him.

Up forward, it’s Darcy Moore and debutant Callum Brown to hopefully kick goals for my side and for theirs, with Moore a chance to frolic through the middle in the ruck.

As much as I wanted to select Michael Hibberd, the salary cap wouldn’t let me, so I have fellow former Bomber Jake Melksham instead, while Oscar McDonald may find himself freer than usual, what with Collingwood doing away with the concept of tall forwards.

The exception, Clayton Oliver, is having a hell of a season and cannot be ignored, even if all the hitouts are going Collingwood’s way, which as Cam Pederson is again rucking solo, they will be.




Everything’s Coming Up Milhouse

Jeez the cupboard is almost as bare as Freo’s, isn’t it? Someone’s obviously taken the rookies out for cleaning.

-62 – James Cousins
-28 – Hugh Greenwood
-26 – Mitch Hannan
-17 – David Cunningham
-14 – Matt Scharenberg
-7 – Scott Selwood
1 – Dallas Willsmore
12 – Jake Barrett
12 – Tom Stewart
18 – Daniel Lloyd
24 – Matthew Perryman

Dig Up, Stupid!

Boy there is a lot of stupid out there in our Supercoach teams this season, but thankfully there’s also plenty of stupid from players not in our sides. Keep an eye on players like Lachie Neale, Rory Laird and Michael Hurley, who have massive breakevens as they head into their byes next week.

188 – Lachie Neale
164 – Jake Lloyd
164 – Rory Laird
159 – Tom Mitchell
158 – Marcus Bontempelli
156 – Josh J Kennedy
148 – Big Boy McEvoy
143 – Michael Hurley
140 – Jack Macrae


I hope everyone listened to me and took Joel Selwood over Paddy Dangerfield last week. I mean I’m not one to brag, but Selwood absolute took Danger to the cleaners, picking up 151 points to Danger’s 149. I mean I don’t know what sort of amateur would have made that mistake, pfffft.

However, not having either of them is a genuine concern on the captaincy front for mine this week, as they’re literally two of the only three players I’ve got who aren’t complete poo. The other one, Scott Pendlebury, is getting the nod from me this week. Averaging 112 over an astonishing 145 games at the G, and scored 124 in the clash last year.

I’ve had the VC on The Bont, hoping he’s shrugged the Kiss of Death I gave him when I brought him in three weeks ago, but we all know how that one went last night. JPK and Dan Hannebury didn’t do much better.

Otherwise, Josh Kelly is in phenomenal form, and now in the discussion of being a top 8 midfielder and a worthy captaincy option, especially with Carlton this week. He’s averaged 127 over his past 5 and tore Essendon to shreds last week with 176.

Zach Merrett, Tom Mitchell and especially Tom Rockliff are all worth a squiz as options this week. Rockliff’s last two scores before doing his shoulder were a 147 and a 148, while Mitchell has been the only shining light in a putrid season for the Hawks, and they have the Suns on Sunday.

I also somehow missed Rory Sloane from this list. At home, against the Saints – you don’t need stats, you just need to put the big orange C on him and lock him in if you’ve got him.


Anyway – Patch out for the week. Hit me up with your moves, shakes and mistakes of the week below, and let me know what you’re thinking re: Draftstars! See you all in the comments, community!

Twitter : @PatchToTheMax


jockreynolds · 09/06/2017 at 11:31

Great stuff Patch! Note Pieman's review of Callum Brown here as well folks:

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 11:39

    I wrote that in the preseason folks & sent it to Jock about 2 hours before the word got out about his glandular fever & we agreed to wait till he was a certainty to play to put it up

      Cjay · 09/06/2017 at 11:54

      Great write up Pieman.
      Hope you have a draft ready for when Daicos hits the park?

        INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 12:21

        I'll see what I can cook up if Josh Daicos gets a go. I'm tracking his little brother who kicked 12 straight playing underage a few weeks ago from 23 high quality touches. Talent scouts can't take there eyes off young Nick Daicos. Think he's only 13 or 14 but & not eligible for a few more years. But pies fans start frothing

      Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 12:07

      Good write up IMP. I've bought him in, sight unseen. Here's hoping he can be a Greenwood type scorer.

        INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 12:24

        Cheees Rick. Don't think he will match Greenwood but I think he can get a few games with wells & Elliot gone for a while

          neil DEMONS DELIGHT · 09/06/2017 at 14:07

          Melbourne boys remember jack watts debut pies Think he is in for the same via b vince cheers mate

      FCAbel · 09/06/2017 at 13:02

      Terrific review mate

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:15

    Beautiful, Pieman. Will be keeping a very close eye on him Monday

Hoot · 09/06/2017 at 11:32

Go Blues!

Hoot · 09/06/2017 at 11:35


38% efficiency
6 Clangers
5 Frees Against
18 Possessions

92 SC

Thanks CD 🙂

    Barracuda · 09/06/2017 at 11:49

    Had it been Trelor it would have been 29…

    pod · 09/06/2017 at 11:55

    He also had 11 tackles.

    Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 12:08

    Might want to include the tackles, contested and 1%ers. Fake news otherwise.

    Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 12:09

    Geez Bonts score last night will be talked about for weeks. It may have worked out correct but he didnt derserve it. Something is wrong when a player hugs a few of the opposition, plays like shit and gets a score like that. Maybe little i love you hug tackles should only get 2 points

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:16

    Champion data tweeted a breakdown this morning which I found very interesting – basically Bont's hard ball gets and tackles pushed his points up massively

      INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 12:44

      That table leaves more questions than answers. For example my understanding was a tackle gets 4 points. Bont had 11 for 30 points & JPK had 3 for 8 points. That doesn't add up. Unless points are shared for gang tackles. Nonetheless CD need to be more upfront with it's scoring system & if they decide to tinker with it. Which they do all the time! I think JPK's game was twice as good as Bont's & then some. They just threw out that table as a decoy. They will make up another one next week

        Zam Zam · 09/06/2017 at 13:15

        Tackles vary in points depending on effectivness, such as creating a turnover vs causing a stoppage. Also impact by timing of game, worth more if in tight last quarter.

          Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:22

          This is the answer. Leaves them with next to no transparency as so many decisions are made with so much context and dealt with in isolation. It's both Supercoach's greatest strength and weakness

        Stirlsy · 09/06/2017 at 13:40

        Agree the scoring system should be set in stone before the season starts….
        People I know wont play SC because of the scoring.
        But the biggest joke is guys from CD are allowed to play a game with cash prizes and they do the scoring…. buggered if i know how that isn't a conflict of interest…..

          INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 13:52

          Agree Stirlsy. The full scoring system should be published well before the season starts to allow people to then research. Before rolling lockouts there were 400K players. It's halved since then. Many left bewildered by how scoring works

        Rick · 09/06/2017 at 14:52

        There's no set amount of points for anything. Every game has a different amount of tackles, goals, marks, everything. Yet the amount of SC points distributed each game is identical.

          LoganJosh7 · 09/06/2017 at 15:33

          yeah rick I hate that. they scale it. I think some games should simply get more points than others. some teams play rubbish football against each other and yet the overall total is still the same as an epic game between finalists!

    Shake n bake · 09/06/2017 at 18:02

    Its quite funny looking at greenwood last week also had 18 touches at 66% and 11 tackles only 72!!!!!!

    Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:26

    11 Tackles

    wombatsfc · 09/06/2017 at 19:46

    The only reason that SC don't charge to play is the structure of the scoring system. I read CD's excuse for giving Bont 50 bonus points and it doesn't hold water.
    He actually increased his points after being tackled and having a free against FFS!

    Shake N Bakes comment is also damning of CD's claims of unbiased scoring. Greenwood18 Disp @66%, 11 tackles but only 72SC considering the role greenwood plays I reckon probably 12 of those 18 were contested,

    10 Years playing this game and I still don't know how scores are awarded despite 100 hours dedicated to trying to find out.
    I'll finish this season due to an obligation to others in the leagues but I wont be bothering next year.

      Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:51

      I know it's a pain in the ass Wombats how it's never possible to crack the code of Supercoach scoring, it's how the powers that be want it to be, with no one really knowing for sure how it works.
      Don't quit playing though…you know it's still fun, if there is any bias towards certain players, just make sure you pick em next year haha

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:06

    Would like to see a fantasy game based on the AFL player ratings… It's still managed by CD but seems to be more respected as an index of performance. Of course it's even more secretive than SC points as there's all this complex stuff about what your actions turn into for the team…

    Personally I think any system that at least tries to capture real performance ie not just raw stats, is better than the alternative.

Pom · 09/06/2017 at 11:49

Left of field, shark move, gamble of doom, hate rucks/Lyon…..but thoughts on Sandi to Spencer if he is named ? Cash grab if you have many a trade left in the bank? Or just a straight up terrible idea?

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:17

    Problem with Spencer is Gawn will return at some stage. If Gawn was out for the year I wouldn't mind it, but Gawn casts a huge shadow over that move, Pommy.

      Pom · 09/06/2017 at 13:25

      Cheers Patch. I think I'm tying too hard for alternative moves. Maybe if doggies keep using Bont in the Ruck he will get dpp for next year!

        Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:22

        Hahahaha we can dream!

    neil demons delight · 09/06/2017 at 14:09

    more than likely not to play

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 18:41

    Definitely not playing, playing VFL.

Sana · 09/06/2017 at 11:51

Anyone considered Koby Stevens in their fwd line?

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:28

    I did a few weeks ago, but not sure he'll be a top 8 forward. If you thinks the Saints will storm home he could do you well, but just prefer Tommy Lynch at the same price for mine.

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 12:52

    If he was at Scooter's price I'd be keen but he isn't. Too expensive as a floating spare at this stage

    Sana · 09/06/2017 at 15:35

    He's a smokey thats for sure, thanks for the thoughts legends

FEARTHEBEARD · 09/06/2017 at 11:56

Sloane or Pendles for the C?

    Tom McV · 09/06/2017 at 12:01


    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:17

    How did I not mention Sloane – my word. I'd absolutely go Sloane

    FCAbel · 09/06/2017 at 13:04

    Mids seem to go well against saints. Sloane looks a goer

      Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:34

      Had the C on Sloane as well tonight, tossing up between him and Titch all week. Kobe Stevens on him all night, get stuffed you mongrel! 67 SC points…. bloody hell.

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:10

    Sloane is a gun, but overrated on SC forums atm. Had a purple patch but now teams are tagging him. Real C options don't get tagged, as either they can't be effectively shit down (danger, pendles) or else their disposal is not considered enough of a threat to bother (rocky, titch).

    FWIW I have Titch into Rocky this round. Titch does well vs GCS. Rocky can do well vs anyone, tho bit of a gamble coming back from the shoulder.

Cjay · 09/06/2017 at 11:57

Bont's shot for goal last night…… really??
Has Cloke been teaching him how to kick close range set shots?

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:29

    It was shocking, wasn't it CJay? Cloke had a few apathetic attempts himself, too. Someone mentioned Bont's kicked 1.7 in his last 3 games

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:11

    Cloke is like a cancer of shitness that affects teams. No idea why wbd bailed him out.

Tom McV · 09/06/2017 at 12:01

Tom Mitchell or Scott Pendlebury captain???

    Cjay · 09/06/2017 at 12:06

    Why not loop? VC Mitchell into C Pendlebury

      Wattsieesq · 09/06/2017 at 14:26

      Probably because he has already used the VC on a Bont/Hanners/JPK/Buddy type

Dane · 09/06/2017 at 12:04

Hibberd or Roberton?

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:18

    Roberton for mine

    FCAbel · 09/06/2017 at 13:06

    I'm weighing this up too. The fact robo is very unique (owned by 3% of teams) gets him over the line for me.

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:12

    Hibberd proven premo option prior to this season… Think Roberton can't keep up his scoring based on past history. He ain't no spring chicken primed for a breakout year, just reckon he has to fall.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/06/2017 at 12:06

Nice to see you have shaken off that NZ lethargy.
Back with a bang – one of the best this year.
Lots of great quips but yeah you r the only one with harbrow, roo and sandi. [email protected]

Spent every cent in draftstars.
Quite a trick but it can be done .

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:19

    Cheers Trigger! You've got Higgo's Fantasy Tetris down pat! Who's in your DraftStars side Trigger?

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/06/2017 at 12:25

      Draftstars side:

      De goey

      Frost only 1 not happy with but can't afford them all.

        Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:30

        That pesky salary cap eh? Like that side a lot – especially Hunt. If Melbourne get on a roll he could go very large indeed

donn17984 · 09/06/2017 at 12:09

PIck of this weeks Rookies??

Who will hold there spot: Beach, C.brown, Cox, Finlayson, Mckenzie – Willis??

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:21

    Brown the only one of those I'd back in straight off the bat

      donn17984 · 09/06/2017 at 12:27

      I have to pick another Cox or Finlayson ?

        FCAbel · 09/06/2017 at 13:07

        Cox of those two I think

          Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:23

          Concur. GWS have too many stars returning for Finlayson to hold his spot, assuming he is actually named

    Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:27

    I don't think any will. If anyone Beech or Brown but don't put your money on it or you'll be sad and broke

Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 12:10

I've got Lynch in this week. I really hope those spud scores are a thing of the past. The Hawks defence shouldn't be too much of a burden this week. Was about $2k short of purchasing Rocky, watch him score 180.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 12:21

    I didn't go Lynch in the end, so don't blame me if he spuds it! That hurts on Rocky, mind you. That hurts so much

      Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 12:36

      If things pan out I'll grab him next week, or at worst, Dusty. So not too upset.

      Derek · 09/06/2017 at 13:50

      Have you ever dislocated your shoulder? I wouldn't be rushing rocky into my team until had a look at him make a few tackles first

        Top hawk · 09/06/2017 at 15:18

        That's exactly why I backed out on Rocky at the last minute and traded in Macrae instead. Rocky might avoid laying too many tackles as that sore shoulder will be planted in the back of his mind. Also, he might spend time up forward like SCDonkey mentioned the other day. I am happy for him to go 180 this week. Just want to have a look at him before jumping on the Rocky train.

        Rooster XXX · 09/06/2017 at 15:50

        Derek – Isn't that what rehab and training is for??? He would hardly playing if he isn't right….Not as if Brisbane have anything too play for that would have them rushing him back….

          David C · 09/06/2017 at 18:39

          He wanted to play the week before the bye but the Lions held him back. 2 extra weeks. He'll be fine. Famous last words.

        Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:13

        Rocky is more machine than man

    jez_m · 09/06/2017 at 12:27

    I'm seriously tossing up whether to put the C on him or play it safe with Tom Mitchell. If Gold Coast clean up their delivery inside 50, he could kick 6+ goals.

JDP · 09/06/2017 at 12:17

who has the better upside:

Berry or Myers?

One will be traded to Cousins

    Cobey · 09/06/2017 at 12:34

    I would trade Myers because of the rd 13 bye but if you have enough on the field I would trade out berry to get more cash

      Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:24

      Byes a big factor in this one. Hold Berry, trade Myers

    jez_m · 09/06/2017 at 12:40

    At this stage I would probably trade Myers.

      Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 12:46

      Yep Myers, he's not shown the ability to score big. I'll be letting Michonne loose on him next week.

    Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:28

    The thing is the round 13 bye. If you have a full team you will have an advantage over many supercoach sides so look towards that. I would trade Berry but that is according to my structure

    redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 19:17

    Berry seems to have good JS. He is dpp and is scoring better, after a really slow start. He seems to be a bench warmer for a few weeks yet.

jez_m · 09/06/2017 at 12:26

Not that I have him, but Rory Sloane is an absolute lock of a captaincy pick this week. His last 6 scores at the Adelaide Oval: 177, 70, 140, 124, 168 and 77 for an average of 126.

    Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 12:38

    Just be hoping you don't get one of those 70s.

      jez_m · 09/06/2017 at 12:41

      Yep. That most recent 70 was against Melbourne when Vince got hold of him, so it will be interesting to see whether the Saints opt for a hard tag on him or not.

        INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 12:55

        You'd be mad not to tag Sloane. And tag the absolute crap out of him. Richo is a smart coach. Other coaches have shown the way recently. Shut down Sloane & your in the game. If you don't he will destroy you

          jez_m · 09/06/2017 at 13:16

          Totally agree Pieman. Sadly he's Crows only A-grade mid and they don't have the Danger/Selwood-type combo where you can't tag both.

            INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 13:40

            Imagine they still had Danger. My goodness

              Derek · 09/06/2017 at 13:51

              Sloane will be tagged

                redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 15:24

                Yes, but how effectively? I'm a saints fan and have real concerns that he will do some real damage. It's going to be painful to watch either way, but he's my VC this week.

                Beady Eye · 09/06/2017 at 16:54

                And none of those other teams thought to tag him at Adelaide Oval?

                Defying_Madness · 10/06/2017 at 00:01

                The great Derek foresaw it all

    pod · 09/06/2017 at 13:56

    Any of those big scores achieved while tagged? Alan Richardson isn't going to let Sloane run around willy nilly.

      Jai · 09/06/2017 at 23:53

      Nek minnit.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:25

    Lockity lock. Will get attention but from memory Saints have never been a brilliant shut down side

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:15

    Wise oracle say: Make pledge, and mischief is nigh.

LoganJosh7 · 09/06/2017 at 12:28

iv got all 3 premiums patch 🙁 plus JJK and Ablett who have been in and out lately. my season is being held together by a thread!!

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:26

    That hurts, Logan. That hurts real bad. You need a pint, a hug, or both. The worm will turn, mate!

      LoganJosh7 · 09/06/2017 at 15:06

      the prospect of all the boys fit and firing in a few weeks is keeping me going!!

Cobey · 09/06/2017 at 12:33

Stuffed up this week I traded in soldo for preuss when I should of traded in English, but it did allow me to trade Joyce up to hibberd. Thoughts?

    Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 12:40

    You never know in this caper. Most of my thought out moves turn to dust, whilst the spur of the moment ones turn to gold. Just ride the wave, it's mostly luck.

TheGreatBozza · 09/06/2017 at 12:59

I'm stumped this week community. I have 19 trades left so plenty of flexibility What options are best?
These are my trade combos I could do. I'm tracking for 17 playing next week pre trades, while my cash league opponent has 19 currently

1. Otten to Doc, Fisher/Berry to Shaz
2. Otten to; Doc, Fisher/Parsons to Cousins
3. Otten to; Doc, Parsons to; Cousins,
4. Option 1, 2 or 3 Sandi to Lynch, giving me 18 next week

My only plan for next week will be offloading Taranto to a FWD Premo, while I'm hoping to go Newman to Lloyd soon after

    Choice · 09/06/2017 at 13:03

    What cash you got?

      TheGreatBozza · 09/06/2017 at 13:23

      Got $160k.
      I've become sold on Doc. It came down to Doc, Hibberd and Lloyd for my last 2 DEF spots, so going Lloyd for value and Doc for elite performance

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:27

    Option 3 for mine, Bozza

    Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 17:03


Choice · 09/06/2017 at 13:00

Ablett Captain
Should I Trade Marchbank, Barrett, Stewart for Hibberd, Roberton & Cousins
Hold off a couple of weeks, let Barrett and Stewart plump up and get Laird and Lloyd? (Will go Marchbank to Hibberd this week anyway)

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 13:42

    Gary loves playing the Hawks. He feasts

    pod · 09/06/2017 at 13:58

    After The Bont's performance I'm relying on GAJ to bring it home.

    Hibberd and Robbo are top defenders, if you can get them in now go for it.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:28

    I'd pull the trigger choice. Better off with points now than later in this caper

J.K · 09/06/2017 at 13:02

Is it worth punting Myers for Cousins this week community? They look to be similar scorers and it will give me addition $ generation. 14 trades left.

    Cjay · 09/06/2017 at 13:26

    Yes I am doing that trade. Would rather a bit better option but not much else on offer in the mid at the moment.

      J.K · 09/06/2017 at 13:38

      Thanks mate. Might even end up punting Lloyd if he isn't named this week. Warm bodies!

        Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 16:58

        Get rid of Lloyd before Myers

Alex · 09/06/2017 at 13:25

Eddy-Lynch (this means I miss out on yeo, however I field 21 this week if I do this)

EVW – Hibberd
Eddy – 489k defender

Thoughts and insert players to trad in

    pod · 09/06/2017 at 14:03

    Hibberd and Lynch are nice trades, forget Kade Simpson.

      Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:33

      I'd go Kade over Lynch myself

Penquin · 09/06/2017 at 13:29

Pieman. Interesting story about Callum Brown and I hope your are right.
This is the true story of the 1990 brawl.
Gavin, or Rowdy as he was also known as was followed down to the emerging brawl by his opponent TD. As they approached the fracas, Dennis Banks kicked Keiran Sporn and Gavin saw Sporn hit so Gavin hit Sporn and then TD hit Gavin. TD got 10 weeks suspension because he got a better punch in? Gavin played on and did ok but didn't get suspended? Premeditation by TD. No way.

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 17:51

    Certainly was quite a brawl. Woukd have cost 1 mil in fines in this day & age

      Penquin · 09/06/2017 at 19:12

      Good man. I enjoy your comments and hopefully your predictions.

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:22

    Those were the biffo days for sure, I remember as a kid , someone would get king hit every week…and the crowd would cheer loudly…times have changed 🙂

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:20

    Brown hardly an aggro player, hard to tell what went on in the chaos but I doubt he struck anyone who had just already been struck by his team mate. Maybe you meant it the other way around?

    Looked to me like bombers started the fight and were pretty keen to take down Brown. Might be a bit one eyed tho ofc =p

Chubby McChubby · 09/06/2017 at 13:30

Why is everyone scared of Kreuzer

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 13:41


    pod · 09/06/2017 at 14:01

    I'm not scared.

    FCAbel · 09/06/2017 at 16:10

    I'm scared

      Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 16:53

      It's such a crazy season. Witts still in my team and performing well. Hardly anyone to trade him to if I were so inclined. Makes you realise how spolit we've been.

        Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:35

        History… but very bloody tempting!

    randomcliche · 10/06/2017 at 00:55

    Viable second ruck from a team that historically done it. He's held together with less paper mache' than Witt's hands. Presence of buns. Enough?

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:20

    He bloody shit.

tl4 · 09/06/2017 at 13:30

thoughts on ainsworth? expensive rookie option but considering him as a possible keeper along with greenwood in the F7/M9 roles

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 13:57

    Id wait for one of Brown Beech or Cox. All 80K cheaper & have DPP also

    Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 18:32

    Too expensive and often not getting a game.

Alex · 09/06/2017 at 13:43

Kade simpson

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:32

    Would be a very handy trade in this week

      Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 16:54

      Think he needed that rest. Should be a consistent 100+ from here out. *Touches wood*

        Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:36

        would he finish top 6 DEF? hmmm…

          Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 23:46

          I don't have him in the top 10 defenders

Derek · 09/06/2017 at 13:55

I have one spot to fill in my defence, has been reserved for Docherty.

Lloyd will be another $35k cheaper next week. I'm starting to think………… no I must be strong!

Lloyd is DPP!

    The Ranger · 09/06/2017 at 13:56

    Pay the price Derek!

    pod · 09/06/2017 at 14:00

    Get Doch Derek, you know you want him.

      Derek · 09/06/2017 at 14:19

      I was waiting for someone to say that.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:31

    You need Doch the Lock Derek.

    FCAbel · 09/06/2017 at 16:14

    Doc first. Could consider Lloyd in to form a d6. Alternatively sideways downgrade to Lloyd

    Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 16:55

    Has to be Doc. Yes the Japanese make some lovely sports cars, but there's nothing like owning a Ferrari.

    Holty · 09/06/2017 at 17:24

    I think its simple Derek. 'Would you like to come up against someone in finals with Doch and you not?'
    Get him in.

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:22

    I've done a sideways on Tuohy to Doc, and will get Lloyd in R14 to finish team. Effectively could consider that a sideways of Tuohy to Lloyd, makes a little cash and gives say +10 ppr.

Rivo · 09/06/2017 at 14:11

Repost – When you hit that trade button this morning and can't reverse it. Hope this works out…

Sandi, Stewart, EVW to..
T.Lynch (GC), Hibberd (Melb) & Ryan.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 14:32

    Nice, Rivo. Like it

LEKD0G · 09/06/2017 at 14:28

Any article with a Smash Mouth sing-along is a 10/10, well done son

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:23

    There could only be about 2 of those articles =p

Stupid Coach · 09/06/2017 at 14:29

Love your work Patch. I don't have The BONT or Harbrow (almost brought him a few weeks ago). However, I do have Roo so feel a little of your pain. Do we know when he will back? I would love to keep him but if he out long term I was going to trade him to Lynch (GC) this week. Unfortunately, don't have the cash to upgrade Parsons. Should I still make the trade this week?

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 18:27

    The bloke that won SuperCoach last year has NRoo to thank. Likely to be back shortly. I'd hold him. But if your struggling for 18 this week perhaps a more to Lynch can be justified

James · 09/06/2017 at 14:29

Taranto – Cousins & Otten – Docherty (Leaving 205k)
Taranto – Cousings & Otten – Hibberd (Leaving 329k)
M/Bank – Scharenberg & Otten – Hibberd (Leaving 264k)
M/Bank – Scharenberg & Otten – Dock (Leaving 140k)
Which option?
What are people's thoughts on Ainsworth, worth a look in this week, if named next week, will be a handy Rd13.

    LoganJosh7 · 09/06/2017 at 15:48

    hang onto Taranto for one more week. so probably option 4 is best.

    actually nah go whatever you want. I have no idea

    LoganJosh7 · 09/06/2017 at 15:48

    if it helps iv gone the double downgrade this week and going the double upgrade next 🙂

jdgrainger · 09/06/2017 at 14:31

Next week I can afford to turn taranto and roughead into franklin and n.riewoldt. That will make my side full premo, is riewoldt reliable enough to hold down my F6? Or should I wait for some more $$$. Something like 6-7 games at etihad for St.Kilda on the run home.

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 09/06/2017 at 14:45

    wouldn't get on roo tbh.

      jdgrainger · 09/06/2017 at 14:47

      I had my sights set on turning roughead to him from round 1, only gonna cost me 20-30k next week. Im weary of his body but his too good to be that cheap

        KrazeeEyezK1lla · 09/06/2017 at 14:51

        the bung knee turns me off big time. obviously a good player/supercoach scorer, but he's not fit, and age isn't on his side.

          jdgrainger · 09/06/2017 at 14:52

          Apparently he could have played this week, richo just wants him to be cherry ripe for next week.

        Patch · 09/06/2017 at 16:20

        Roo not named this week – if you are set on him (which as an owner I don't recommend), don't trade him in this week

    lazza · 09/06/2017 at 15:20

    Forget Riewoldt … he wont end up in the Top 6.
    His 3Rd average is 72. His 5Rd average is 81. His average since his 1 big score in R2 is only 84.
    Since R2 his scoring, price and knee have been going down hill.

    If you must have him wait for a couple of rounds after he returns … he will be cheaper.

    SF4 · 09/06/2017 at 15:46

    Too risky

Dylan · 09/06/2017 at 14:32

Is it worth trading Parsons to Ainsworth (late in today) who has break even of -25 and is set to go up 40k?

    Holty · 09/06/2017 at 15:40

    I have been considering the same. I thought his first 2 games were very solid and then not to be seen again until now.
    Does anyone know if he was injured?

      David C · 09/06/2017 at 18:52

      Yes he was injured not dropped.

    SF4 · 09/06/2017 at 15:45

    Bit too pricey. Shaky JS.

      Holty · 09/06/2017 at 15:50

      This is true but he seems to be the only downgrade option without the R13 bye. I think there will be a few out there who will be considering just to prevent a donut

        Browncow · 09/06/2017 at 23:41

        Has been promoted after 19 touches when Fiorini and a few other had over 30. Seems he has Rocket's love. Tempting for round 13.

    FCAbel · 09/06/2017 at 16:16

    I like it. Thanks for heads up. I missed his inclusion. Nice to have a non round 13 bye downgrade option. Might be worth the extra. Only 35k more than scharenberg

wightyswarriors · 09/06/2017 at 14:39

anyone getting a bizzare error message when trying to access coach kings team for tonoght ?

Tttt · 09/06/2017 at 14:41

Thoughts on going Sandi to doch?
This puts nank into the ruck and allows me to pick up macrae next week

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 09/06/2017 at 14:44

    sounds like a good plan to me. go for it!

wightyswarriors · 09/06/2017 at 14:43

i need to make a change and cant

    SF4 · 09/06/2017 at 15:43

    You can't reverse trades after the first game of the round.

Cliffy · 09/06/2017 at 14:53

Haven't made my upgrades yet, tossing and turning on which of these combos to go with:

Team is (before trades, and have $386,900 and 16 trades left):

DEF: Laird, Shaw, Simpson, Hibberd, Otten, Scharenberg (Stewart, Hibberd)
MID: TMitchell, Adams, Fyfe, Treloar, JPK, Beams, SPP, Barrett (Danger, Fisher, Bolton)
RUCK: Martin, Nank (Sandi)
'FWD: Yeo, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Heeney, Greenwood, Parsons (Eddy, Strandica)

Option 1

Otten – Doc
Sandi – Lynch (GCS, via Strandica DPP)

leaves $198,000 and 14 trades left

Option 2

Otten – Doc
Sandi – Rocky

leaves $40,000 and 14 trades left


    Cliffy · 09/06/2017 at 14:56

    I even thought of doing Otten – Cousins at one point for a huge cash grab, but Otten's price point is high enough to do a straight upgrade instead.

      redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 15:31

      Option 2.

      But are you putting Nank/Ryder in the ruck? You probably won't want him there for the rest of the season.

        Cliffy · 09/06/2017 at 16:23

        Hey redherringfc thanks for the reply.

        Yeah I'm going to return to that issue later down the track in the season, Nank hasn't been horrible of late but you're right in that it's worth looking at later on in the season. Bigger fish to fry first.

Cliffy · 09/06/2017 at 15:05

Another thing I wanted to ask too, since Barrett plays earlier than Fisher this week in terms of their games, does EMG loopholing still work while best 18 scores rule is in effect?

Like let's say Barrett has another solid week against Freo and gets 80-90 odd which puts him in the frame for my best 18 scores for the round, is it as simple as me putting Danger on the field and when he locks out once the final match of the round starts, I'll get Barrett's score baring that his score still lies in my best 18?

Hope that all makes sense, apologies if it doesn't. 😛

    Tim · 09/06/2017 at 15:43

    Believe so.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 16:19

    Loopholes still work, yes

Nick · 09/06/2017 at 15:13

Hey guys
Already have Adams, Doch, Laird, Lloyd, Marchbank and Newman in backline.
Should I trade in either Hibberd or Roberton this week?
If so, which one?

BomberSi · 09/06/2017 at 15:16

I am thinking of going Barrett to Rocky. Can anyone talk me out of it? Figure Barrett score will be impacted by Rocky return and Rocky is add cheap as well will see him for a while. Injury risk but brings me closer to full premo.

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 09/06/2017 at 15:20

    go all out for the rock

    Holty · 09/06/2017 at 15:55

    Only thing im concerned with Rocky is how is his shoulder? If it is slightly sore it will hinder his tackling and we all know how he scores well from this.
    I agree he is a great pick but would wait a week just to see how he goes this weekend

      Patch · 09/06/2017 at 16:11

      As much as I love a #yolo, Holty makes a very valid point – we should trust Rockliff as far as we xan throw him.

      However if you want to bring him in this week I wouldn't fault you

    Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 16:58

    As long as you understand the risk, there's nothing to stop you. Chuck the vc or c on him, I feel he's going huge this week.

dave · 09/06/2017 at 15:43

I'm lucky enough this round to field 9 players in the midfield.
How does the E work during a bye?
Does the best 18 have to be on the ground to count?
For example if I put the E on cousins in the mids he scores a 70 can I then put Selwood on the ground to get cousins score?

    Rooster XXX · 09/06/2017 at 15:57

    Yep so long as Cousins score ultimately ends up in your best 18 scores across all positions for the round his score will go towards your weekly total….

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 16:10

    As I understand it you need players on the ground to score. If you have an E on them and a donut onfield, it will still count. However, if you've got 8 onfield in the mids and the E on Cousins, you don't get his score

      INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 18:24

      Spot on Patch

Holty · 09/06/2017 at 15:52

Does anyone know if Ainsworth was injured early in the season or just dropped? He seemed to be a solid player early in the season.

    Burns. · 09/06/2017 at 16:05

    He was injured

      Holty · 09/06/2017 at 16:20

      Thanks Burnsy

Kyle · 09/06/2017 at 16:02

Went sandi to macrae by swinging nank into ruck. Was him or the bont. Glad i made the right choice there

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 16:08

    Good call!

Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 16:40

Captain Zorko, Zerrett or Docherty?

    BrownlowBoy · 09/06/2017 at 16:45


    Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 16:59

    One of the Zs, imo. Doc is consistent around the 110 but hasn't blasted any biggies….yet.

      Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 17:10

      He got a 150 in rd 6 – That is higher than the other two…

        Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 17:34

        Tis true, just recall him going big regularly. Doc wouldn't be the worst c.

    Kyle · 09/06/2017 at 17:33

    Would be avoiding the c on zorko mate. BLets not forget that the sc pig is back. Rocky will be stealing some of zorkos points i think.

    Imo zerrett is the best option of the 3.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 17:46

    Zachy boy Merrett

Jim · 09/06/2017 at 16:42

Taranto to Cousins, meaning Greenwood plays on field for a few weeks post bye, and was going to sell Taranto next week anyway so the price rise of Cousins will be greater. Keeps bye structure in tact also. Thoughts?

    Rick Grimes · 09/06/2017 at 17:00

    Greenwood is fine at F6 for a couple more weeks.

Will · 09/06/2017 at 16:52

Hey community, should I buy Greene this week or heeney/Macrae next round?

    Will · 09/06/2017 at 17:30

    If I don't buy Greene I will lose league and ranking will drop*

      Relton · 09/06/2017 at 17:44

      Im in the exact same boat!! Im gonna make the call on sundy dependin on how my players tonight and saturday go. I prefer to get heeney but if my scores flopping ill cut butler and get greene!!

        Will · 09/06/2017 at 17:59

        Decisions!! Ahaha

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 17:49

    I've never been a Greene fan and would personally wait for that reason, but I'm baised as balls. Objectively Greene is a solid selection

      Will · 09/06/2017 at 18:00

      Thanks Patch

Top hawk · 09/06/2017 at 16:53

Had the VC on Hanners last night but his 101 doesn't cut the mustard. I am tossing up between these three as my C this round:

* Tom Mitchell
* Adam Treloar
* Sam Docherty
* Patrick Ryder

Who should I go with and why?

    Top hawk · 09/06/2017 at 16:53

    I meant 4

      Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 17:18

      Possies will be with mitch and teloar id go mitch

    Derek · 09/06/2017 at 18:24

    i havn't done it before, but i'm going to give TMitch a run as C

    Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:36

    Can't deny the consistency of Titch. Ryder is a great player but not great at supercoach
    Doch might also be alright.
    Melbourne do a tough job on Midfielders SC scores so Treloar might only get 100ish

    Titch for me. If you'd prefer Doch is also good

    redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 18:52

    If you are chasing massive points i'd go Mitchell, but for a lock in 120-130 i'd back Docherty. Treloar and Ryder – too much chance of getting 80.

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 18:58

    The consensus is overwhelming. Titch gets a crack at Captain in the absence of Dangermouse this week. Go big my friend!

Imgonnalose · 09/06/2017 at 17:17

Is scharenberg worth getting in if I'm getting rid of Myers?

John · 09/06/2017 at 17:19

Who to captain out of:


    Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 17:26

    When in doubt highest possessions so treloar id think.

      Patch · 09/06/2017 at 17:49

      Can't fault that logic

      Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:35

      Did you hear Higgins stats on Mids against Melbourne. The lowest SC scores in the comp!

        whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:01

        Makes sense as Melbourne have a very strong midfield and a great tagger in Vince. If Gawn hadn't of gone down they could've been top 4, at least top 8 I reckon.

    redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 18:56

    There is a reason why Docherty is priced higher than the other 3.

James · 09/06/2017 at 17:29

Is Eddy to Ainsworth worth the risk?

    whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 18:53

    No, too expensive.

    whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 18:55

    Although he was scoring ok before he got injured. Worth consideration but personally won't touch him.

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:48

    Ain't worth

Kyle · 09/06/2017 at 17:37

My forwards are now completed. Would love to hear the communities thoughts on how it looks.

JJK franklin dahl macrae nank and lynch (gold coast). Was so tempted to bring in yeo a few times this year but just couldnt bring myself to doing it. Might have been the wrong choice but oh well

    skdo · 09/06/2017 at 17:38

    You can swing nank into the ruck during the season and switch a ruck for yeo in the future 🙂

      Kyle · 09/06/2017 at 18:29

      Rucks are mummy and stef martin 🙂

        Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 18:30

        Gonna need to give Martin the chop soon

          Kyle · 09/06/2017 at 19:53

          Im gonna wait it out and hope that archie the muppet will get dropped. Only have 11 trades remaining and 2 more upgrades so gonna have to be careful

    Keenbutclueless · 09/06/2017 at 18:16

    I will have the same after Macrae comes in next week. Same half-regret with Yeo. Thought about Heeney instead of Franklin, but someone on this site made a good point about the lingering effects of glandular fever and how it might see him need to be managed a bit later on. He was great last night, but that head to head will keep me intrigued for the rest of the season.

      Kyle · 09/06/2017 at 18:30

      Another one i thought of was heeney. Ultimately tho the glandular fever is what made me stay away aswell.

    redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 19:15

    It looks different to mine and i've finished my forward line with no yeo here either.

    I'd do a straight swap with you, but do you want Pedersen, Steele and Ryder? (You'd probably take Heeney for lynch after last night)

      Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:19

      Glad to hear someone else has Pederson in their Fwd line haha..stay away Spencer! 🙂

        redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 19:35

        He's been outstanding for the reason we got him in. Hope he keeps it up when the real rucks are back.

          Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:55

          Me too bud, I reckon he's a quality player, rucks and can mark it and kick goals…go Peddo!

    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:49

    Same for mine but Yeo comig in next week, no JJK

skdo · 09/06/2017 at 17:37

Does anyone know a site that shows a players injury history and what they injured thanks

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 18:38

    Don't know any off hand but maybe try Google?

      skdo · 09/06/2017 at 18:45


    Moustachio · 10/06/2017 at 10:51

    Search player name and "afl player ratings"… Comes up with link to inside football site which is bloody useful with one line summaries of performance, injury and even includes vfl games.

Tommo09 · 09/06/2017 at 17:43

Upgrading to Doch, Rocky, Gawn, Macrae and Greene/Buddy
Two are coming in for Steele and Sandi

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 17:45

    Doch and Macrae of those listed

    Tommo09 · 09/06/2017 at 17:51

    Have one spot left on each line plus Steele and Sandi to upgrade at this point
    Not looking great

      Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 17:53

      Consider steele as a keeper – he is in top 8 forwards this year. If you hold sandi as well it makes it a whole lot easier. I am holding both.

    Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:33

    The line shows where I think you should have a double take. In order:

    pod · 09/06/2017 at 19:29

    Doch and the Rock.

The BONT · 09/06/2017 at 17:48

VC is on Titch so who gets the C

– Treloar
– Docherty
– Ebert

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 18:22


    Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:31

    The Doch-tor

    redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 19:00

    Is this a trick question?

    Strnadica is my guess after Titch knocks out a 150.

    If he is under 120, go Docherty.

FizzEm · 09/06/2017 at 17:48

Want to cut butler. Tossing up whether to wait this weekend out now and grab heeney or macrae next… or do i go on greene it will be me another warm body but a rd 13 bye to deal with!

    INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 17:52

    MacRae is a top 3 Fwd. Get him

    Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 17:52

    hold a week if you have 18

    Cold_Case · 09/06/2017 at 19:11

    Macrae wont drop much after last nights effort

One Touch Wonder · 09/06/2017 at 18:29

Everyone is getting the wrong Lynch.

    Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 18:31

    let's agree to disagree

    SCdonkey · 09/06/2017 at 18:57

    Demmit!! i bloody hope not. I know i search T Lynch and clicked add to team.

    hedski · 09/06/2017 at 19:07

    Got him in my Draft stars free turbo team tonight.
    (Not an ad, getting GC Lynch tomorrow)

      hedski · 09/06/2017 at 23:17

      Came 13th, stoked.

    Cold_Case · 09/06/2017 at 19:10

    They are saving 16k though. Haha

Tyruddanaut · 09/06/2017 at 18:30

Bloody hell! What's up with this advertising it's pretty annoying. I know you have to make a living but Draftstars this Fantasy Insider that.

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    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 18:36

    Like you said, they have to make a living, websites don't pay for themselves.

    hedski · 09/06/2017 at 18:56

    They are ads, surely you've learnt to ignore ads by now.

    Wedge · 09/06/2017 at 19:01

    We could all donate money out of our own wallets

      whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:09

      Exactly, I love ads.

      whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:09

      Except on TV……….*

    Bob Butter · 09/06/2017 at 19:10

    Adblock on google chrome

Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 18:32

Weird how Jake Spencer was named in the side but is now playing VFL this weekend.

SCdonkey · 09/06/2017 at 18:33

Had the VC on Crouch last week nearly paid off until Selwood and Blicavs tagged him half way at the 3rd until the of the game. He's building up really nicely hopefully he keeps it up after the bye. Putting my faith(VC) on him again this week.

    hedski · 09/06/2017 at 18:59

    Should go OK Donks, vc'd Parks last night, not quite enough (108).

    Cold_Case · 09/06/2017 at 19:08

    Hope your right donkey would love to take him off my upgrade list.

      SCdonkey · 09/06/2017 at 19:23

      He's never been on my upgrade list. Priddis and Fyfe is ahead of him. Averaging 30+ possesions, just the 1%, hard ball gets and kick ratio needs improving. Which has been up in the last few weeks. If he keeps it up of what he's doing lately he'll be a nice POD in the 2nd of the season.

        Cold_Case · 09/06/2017 at 19:31

        Yeah. Just needs to get that average into triple figures. Maybe fyfe will do the same and save us some trades.

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 19:23

    Why not Doncs. Matty Crouch is a decent VC option. Gets plenty of the pill. Just pray his DE is up to scratch tonight! If it is, he can go quite big. Good luck!

Bazooka · 09/06/2017 at 18:50

Doc or Pendles c?

    Ja191 · 09/06/2017 at 19:03

    Pedles for me. Doc consistent pendles higher ceiling

Leo · 09/06/2017 at 18:57

Otten – Hibberd (Melb)
Taranto – Ainsworth
Myers – Cousins
Thoughts on trades or changes
Are any of these not needed?

    hedski · 09/06/2017 at 19:02

    Second one is not much chop Leo, other two look good.

      Leo · 09/06/2017 at 19:38

      what about taranto – cousins instead and forget the ainsworth trade

        hedski · 09/06/2017 at 20:29

        Na Myers is a spud, going him to Cousins.

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 19:28

    I agree with Hedski. There are plenty of new lambs making their debut next week. Why risk Ainsworth at $198K when there is likely to be a couple of really juicy bubble rooks up for grabs in a few weeks at half the price! Patience is a virtue in this game.


whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:02

Loyd out before Myers if you have him, he's been pushed from the extended bench to emergencies.

James · 09/06/2017 at 19:05

Do I captain treloar or docherty?

just afraid that treloar might cop a tag from vince

    whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:08

    Doch should see a lot of the ball against GWS. Unless he's just watching it sail over his head into the goals, that could be a problem.

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 19:20

    All comes down to which player Vince goes to. If its Treloar, then there could be a problem. Treloar smashed the 'Berry" tag a few weeks ago, but Vince is a different beast. With Docherty, you know he will not have this tagging spectre hanging over him. Go with the Doc.

      whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:34

      Can't remember what team it was but someone attempted to tag Docherty this year……………

        Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:35

        How'd that work out for them, what was his score?

        TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 19:41

        Yeah and it was the first and last time smokes. Probably a waste of time tagging the bloke. His lowest score all year is 91. Pretty much tonnes up every week. A bloody machine.

    pod · 09/06/2017 at 19:22

    Any other options? If no then go the Doch.

      James · 09/06/2017 at 19:36

      Laird, Adams or Zorko

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:24

    If you're worried about Treloar, go with Doch, I think he's only had 2 scores under 100.

JDP · 09/06/2017 at 19:23

Cousins or Berry on ground?

    Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 19:26

    cousins now rocky is back

    whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:30

    Loophole Cousins.

Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 19:23

Well make or break shark move. Otten to joey ? bloody risk.

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:28

    Nah I wouldn't mate, go for someone younger.

      Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 19:30

      Yeah may end my season too early. Want to play a little longer 🙂 Got exited on his price atm

        whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 19:33

        He's named starting on the interchange, I see that as a negative sign.

          Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 19:36

          yep. ah the memories of those good old days.

          Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 19:37

          only two spots up back to fill will do with loyd and laird after he drops also.

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:40

    Can you afford Steven May…or Jeremy Howe?

      Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 19:42

      yeah. better pods you reckon?

      Eskimo · 09/06/2017 at 19:44

      actually may is a very nice suggestion may do may. cheers!

        Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:46

        No probs mate, good luck.

Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:26

Jock, you look a bit sad in your Draftstars photo, and what's with the Herringbone suit?…and where's your Beer?…lol

    Wedge · 09/06/2017 at 19:30

    Sad because he's clean with no beer

TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 19:45

Rory Laird and Andy Otten………………I am watching…………It is time for redemption tonight after those steaming horse turds you left on the field last week.

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 19:52

    I thought you would've sent Otten packing this week TOPHAWK…bigger fish to fry?

      TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 20:02

      Next week Russty.

      Otten is playing his last game tonight. Otten will turn into Jake Lloyd next week. Butler to Macrea was a bigger fish to fry this week champ.

    Kyle · 09/06/2017 at 19:58

    Hoping that we see laird turn it around mate. Started him for his tons…not the turds like last week!

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 21:01

    Old mate Rory's listened to your rev up and is motoring along at HT! Otten on 40 isn't half bad either

      TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 21:11

      Yep. Rory deserved a royal spray after last week. Otten is only 26 from his BE of 66 at half time. Would it not be nice if he could go 100+ so the switch next week gets even cheaper. (Jake Lloyd)

Jim_bob321 · 09/06/2017 at 19:50

Punt with Laird C…. Please lets hope this turns out good

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 21:03

    you beauty (as of half time – tough wood)

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 21:45

    Lookin good for ya Jimbob…and Patch….107 at 3/4 time…yowza!!

    Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:40

    Well done….

Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 20:07

Umpiring advantaging Crows much? SMH!

    Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 20:16

    Sloane shouldn't have any points, what a soft free

    Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 20:26

    Even the ball that was miles out of bounds and the boundary spud umpire 3 metres away. Lucky Betts missed the goal.

    whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 21:16

    Not really, they tend to give holding the ball/incorrect disposal more in SA though.

Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 20:07

Adelaide seem to have a problem being able to name a decent inspirational Captain don't they?…with all the years Danger was there, he was never crowned Captain, and then they named a spud key Forward who might perform one in 7 games if they're lucky.
Walker should be demoted to part time key forward spud, as he is, and Sloane should be named Captain I reckon.
Walker doesn't inspire victory, he just inspires, spudliness.

    Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 20:22

    Saints shouldn't have picked up Pies rejects….Brown looking lost against Jenkins

      Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 20:42

      Brown was a spud at collingwood, and is still a spud, I can't comprehend why we got that slug, it's the same as the hawks picking up tyrone shittery.

    Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 20:22

    had him in my team until this week where I cut my losses

      Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 20:43

      Good call kiddo, nice decision. even if he scores well this game, he's still a potato head.

      Patch · 09/06/2017 at 21:00

      Still got him. Sitting on 51 at the half without a major on the board which I'm surprised with, but I'll take it. Long term he won't stay on the field if I can help it, mind you

        Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 21:04

        I went him for Zorko. Short term it might not look good but long term it should be much better and works with my bye structure. I couldn't stand leaking that many points each week

          Patch · 09/06/2017 at 21:10

          Zorko will slay him on the way home. Here's hoping Tex hits some form and makes some cash so I can eventually trade him

            Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 21:46

            fingers crossed

DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 20:16

Steele tagging Sloane >.<

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 20:20

    Still doing ok, will probably end up on 120…StKilda are playing like girl's blouses.

      Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 20:22

      I think he was more frustrated with Steele – on two at QT 🙁

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 20:23

    Fab. I have Steele. Cant they find somebody else to tag Sloane!!

    JohndJames · 09/06/2017 at 20:24

    Not good,if they start using Steele as a tagger,we might have to jump ship,he's made 100k plus,was thinking he was a keeper,but not if he's going to get tagging roles.

    Pman · 09/06/2017 at 20:35

    Just logged and saw Steeles score and thought he must've copped an injury gien his 2 lousy points, hopefully he turns out to be my teams lowest score of the 21 I have so it doesn't count! May have to give some serious thought to punting him as doubt he'll be a top 6-8 Fwd by seasons end.

      INPieman · 09/06/2017 at 20:40

      Steee is on 2 if you have him as captain. He's on 1 & about to lay the mother of all turds

        Pman · 09/06/2017 at 20:48

        I cannot wait to RAGE trade him, he is ont rack to lose $30K if he keeps serving this sort of pus all night. He's been a disappointment but will swing him to mids next week and upgrade to Uber Premo.

          Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 20:52

          That's what happens when Richo listens to the media who said, "you have to tag Sloane"..probably didn't actually, yeah send a good ball winner into a negative role and look at the score now.

            JohndJames · 09/06/2017 at 20:56

            That's what I can't understand Russty,why the hell do you get a ball magnet to tag.surely they could have used someone else.

              Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 21:58

              It's beyond me John…bloody silly decision.

            whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 21:05

            Spot on Rusty. Wasn't even facing the ruck contests. Stevens is also being used and is another that can have a big impact on those tight contests.

              Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 22:00

              Yeah totally agree Smokin, we could've been much more competitive without wasting 2 players on a negative role like that.

        DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 20:51

        2 touches in 2 mins late into 2nd

    Holty · 09/06/2017 at 20:54

    Stevens is tagging sloane, not steele. Steele has been off the field for most of the first half. Not sure what happened but went off early and only came back on half way through second quarter

      DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 20:59

      Holty I swear he was at start of game…

        whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 21:06

        Maybe they've used 3 different players. Maybe try winning the ball instead saints…..that's how you win the game.

        Holty · 09/06/2017 at 21:18

        Missed the start so could be the case. Started watching halfway through 1st and as a steele owner thought where he was. Saw him finally half way through 2nd and looked on fanfooty to see he had been off most of the game

      Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 21:49

      Saints are actually rotation taggers on Sloane….Stevens and Steele

Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 20:49

I've officially given up any hope for StKilda this year, I'm used to disappointment, ever since 2009 lol, the only way we have any hope for next season is if we completely overahul our Forward line. Bruce, Membrey, McCartin, those small buzzy midgets, none of them are any good, we need to start again…and Nick, you've been great but go and retire and enjoy your retirement with your hot blonde nordic wife 🙂

    JohndJames · 09/06/2017 at 20:57

    Bruce is a good player.

    Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 20:59

    Agree Russty am so frustrated watching their pathetic skill level and slow movement of the ball. I predicted it three weeks ago they were going to struggle after going to most games. They need to buy Reid from the Swans to assist the forwards, Kelly from GWS and another premo defender to help Roberton. Not sure they have any idea how to play Richo's gameplan as they zone but nowhere near any opposition players who play keepings off and kick goal after goal.

      Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 21:00

      I would buy Preuss from North too. Longer isn't any good.

    whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 21:04

    Well they've practically wasted two of their best ball getters on stopping Sloane. The best defense is a good offense as they say. Poor strategy.

    Dean · 09/06/2017 at 21:38

    They call me Bruce is a great future forward. The game has changed so much but id be happy with Bruceeeeeee

      Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:29

      Billings has a bright future, could come in to consideration next year in the forward lines….

    Saints man · 10/06/2017 at 09:24

    I think you're being a bit harsh on the forward line, the delivery they ate receiving reminds me of under 12 days but they were very in accurate last night… personally think McCartin Bruce and membery should be out staring lineup for years to come bit need some Kelly delivery
    McCartin just needs time, clone of tom Hawkins and be foes alright

    Ben · 10/06/2017 at 12:24

    Saints supporter, I don't think Bruce, Membrey and McCartin are that bad and Gresham has been doing okay. I think delivery is the main issue. Hopefully McCartin can learn to kick for goal though.

JohndJames · 09/06/2017 at 20:50

Steele to Heeney next week.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 20:57

    Like it

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 21:00

    Steele to Heeney and Otten to Jake Lloyd next week. BANG BANG

      JohndJames · 10/06/2017 at 00:53

      You could wait another week on Lloyd,will be cheaper.

    Darc · 09/06/2017 at 23:30

    Good move

DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 20:51

Hope nobody pimped their Laird!

    Toast · 09/06/2017 at 21:24

    Just thinking the same thing!

    Iamme · 09/06/2017 at 21:51

    OK I admit it, I did so I could pick up Robertson and get a extra weeks score….But my plan is to get him back after bye then I will just about have a full premo team.

      Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:42

      Higgo said to pimp Laird…. shame on you mate. LOL

Richie Porte · 09/06/2017 at 20:51

Who should I trade out for Cousins, SPP, Myers or Barratt. Then should I go Stewart or Berry to Doc or bring in T Lynch for parsons instead then Doc next week.

    Patch · 09/06/2017 at 20:57

    Myers for mine

      Richie Porte · 09/06/2017 at 21:13

      Cheers Patch

    redherringfc · 09/06/2017 at 21:05

    I'd say Myers. second question, answer is yes, probably stewart as berry has had his bye.

      Richie Porte · 09/06/2017 at 21:13

      Thanks mate

    B-rian · 10/06/2017 at 08:38

    You gonna win the Tour de France mate? I'm thinking of backing you

TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 20:56

Jack Steele and Koby Stevens are doing the job on Sloane. Can Sloane break the dual tag in the second half?

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 21:08

    I'm guessing yes, cause St Kida are shite.

      Patch · 09/06/2017 at 21:09

      Well if he doesn't have to break the tag to win the game, he might just drag them both to the goal square at sit there

        Holty · 09/06/2017 at 21:23

        I would personally give him a run with role on the saints best midfielder. Might help him win some footy as he obviously been struggling with the tag himself

    Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 21:53

    No…17 players will be on him

RickeyRat · 09/06/2017 at 20:58

Really worried about Sloane another heavy tag and he's not going to score above 60 should of went JSelwood at least he can handle the attention…

    DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 21:02

    He is almost a burn man

    Derek · 09/06/2017 at 21:06

    We will be saying the same thing about JKelly in a few weeks time

      whatyasmokin · 09/06/2017 at 21:08

      Good observation.

      Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 21:09

      I don't know – the kid is one of the best two way runners in the comp. He could just out stamina his opponent.

        Derek · 09/06/2017 at 22:32

        Coaches will work it out. They always do.

Patch · 09/06/2017 at 21:04

So maybe forgetting Sloane from Captain McCaptainface initially was A Sign. Oops

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 21:44

    Not on you Patch, Sloane clearly can't handle a tag.

Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 21:23

Man imagine what Greenwood would be scoring if he had a higher TOG

    Don't Blush Baby · 09/06/2017 at 22:03

    Agree, also why have Stevens tagging Sloane all night when your 6 goals down , change it up,go head to head FFS,

      DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 22:29

      Players like Greenwood who don't look fancy but put so many pressure acts into the game is what wins premierships and the Crows only had Laird and Lever doing the bulk of that.

      Green woods job security is solid!

        Derek · 09/06/2017 at 22:51

        I really like him.

        I didn't mind the new boy as well. Has a decent crack

          Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 22:54

          Should be a good downgrade option is he keeps getting named. Had a solid debut

          whatyousmokin · 09/06/2017 at 22:55

          Those little intercept touches he gets dont score much sc wise, but are invaluable. Also all his posessions were contested.

        Mifta · 09/06/2017 at 23:04

        Spot on

      whatyousmokin · 09/06/2017 at 22:54

      Shouldve from the start, then if he did damage tag him out.

ListenMeSilence!!! · 09/06/2017 at 21:32

All those idiots that brought in laird after his monster R10 177 would be now crying. I had Laird since day 1 so im not too concerned. But I told you ALL why bring in a Premo who has yet to have his bye is ABSURD –
ya should have listened. WELCOME!!!

    ListenMeSilence!!! · 09/06/2017 at 21:34

    Not Laird sorry SLOANE – I'm looking at Laird score thinking its Sloane's….lol

      TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 21:51

      Have another drink mate

        Don't Blush Baby · 09/06/2017 at 21:58

        Sucken on the party cone tonight mate ,

    Russty_ · 09/06/2017 at 22:02

    I'd probably advise trading Sloane out while he's still worth something , now that he's been figured out, he can't deal with a tag.

    Moonshine · 09/06/2017 at 23:02

    Another ice idiot. Squad. Who would take heed of a rant like that. OMG

Cpt · 09/06/2017 at 22:21

That's it. Sloane out. Can handle a rag.

    Cpt · 09/06/2017 at 22:22

    Tag. Oops my bad.

    Top Gun · 09/06/2017 at 22:29

    Think he was on the rags tonight 😛

      DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 22:30

      I preferred rag lol

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 22:31

    His missus must be on her rags.

Shane · 09/06/2017 at 22:23

Captain Rocky or Pendles?

    RickeyRat · 10/06/2017 at 08:51

    I am going with Rocky over pendlebury in close call expect Pendles to just crack the ton,Rocky will go 120 i project if his shoulder stays in..

TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 22:27

Otten and Steele are cooked.

    DavidSA · 09/06/2017 at 22:31

    Steele just one bad game from a bad night to be playing in a Saints B grade team

    Swans2012 · 09/06/2017 at 22:32

    But Steele is still a lock for f7, at the end of the day he cost very little and as f7-m9 he is perfect

      Finnius123 · 09/06/2017 at 22:49

      agreed. People are jumping the gun on him – perfect for a consistent swing.

      SCdonkey · 09/06/2017 at 22:49

      Agree with ya swans, if I had Steele I'd keep him at F7 with DPP to M9 or M10 cover.

      On top that he can cover for Nank if Nank is needed in the Ruck.

    SF4 · 09/06/2017 at 23:28

    Have served us very well.

Steeeve · 09/06/2017 at 22:28

Traded Laird out. Brought in Doc. Wait for Doc to score 70.

Hoped he would leak more cash before I brought him back in but oh well still happy with my strategy. Doc is going to score a lot more than Laird next week.

    Iamme · 09/06/2017 at 22:34

    As is Roberton for me.

    TOPHAWK1 · 09/06/2017 at 22:34

    Wow. Not sure about your strategy. I have both and you need them both.

      Steeeve · 10/06/2017 at 00:54

      I'll have both again after the bye.
      To go Marchbank to Doc required a downgrade aka two trades.
      Instead I'll go Marchbank to Laird after round 13 which I can afford to do in one trade.
      Plus Doc for Laird covers me for round 13.

      Either way it was two trades but this way I have Marchbank and Doc for round 13.

      Plus Laird will still lose cash even after tonight's big game. I hoped to get him back $50K cheaper but instead it will be $20K. Still only need the one trade.

    SCdonkey · 09/06/2017 at 22:46

    Strange!! Why would people even consider trading out a top 6 defender specially this time of the season.

      Iamme · 09/06/2017 at 23:16

      Because I don't have enough players for next round so it suits my bye structure and I will pick him up again after the bye. Lucky for me my trades have been good for the most part this year. I plan to use 3 next week, which means I will still have 11 after the round 13 bye and only be two short of full Premo…..also going for rank, high risk for high reward.

        SCdonkey · 10/06/2017 at 00:33

        I'm only 1 premo/keeper away with 10 trades left. Will have 18 on field next week with the inclusion of Lynch this week and that's without having to sideway trade.
        #1 Rule never sideway trade a premo unless they are injured or haven't been performing like they should be or a change of roll (aka Shaw)
        And you have to be sure when trading out a premo you're not gonna bring them back, as I did with Trealor for Pendlebury. Might be a waste of trade for some with my decision on Trealor but at least i was fixed on of not bringing him back, and not having to waste another trade on him.

        Trades are Gold and always will with SC

        Top Gun · 10/06/2017 at 07:54

        Maybe trade through the year keeping bye rounds in mind?

    whatyousmokin · 09/06/2017 at 22:51

    Better to have used the two trades earlier on rookie/spud fixes.

    Moorfeet · 09/06/2017 at 22:59

    Dumbest trade I have seen. Were you on ice when you traded?

    Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 23:20

    I hope he scores 70 🙂

    B.T · 09/06/2017 at 23:28

    That was dumb, very dumb

    Mavs17 · 10/06/2017 at 00:12

    Laird just scored over 130… your an idiot.. and is averaging over 30 touches a game

Holty · 09/06/2017 at 22:37

Steeles TOG is not good. In fact its been like this most games lately. He either has a niggle or a bad engine.
He will stay in my team but if this continues will be my last upgrade

Ryan · 09/06/2017 at 22:40

Take otten 62 or roll the dice on sharens berg

    SCdonkey · 09/06/2017 at 22:44

    Take it 60+ from a rookie is good score.

    SF4 · 09/06/2017 at 23:27

    Take it

    Finnius123 · 10/06/2017 at 00:13

    Take it. It is higher than Scharenburg's average.

    Top Gun · 10/06/2017 at 07:56

    Toss of the coin for mine. Even if you roll the dice should only be 20 pts difference unless Shara gets injured

    redherringfc · 10/06/2017 at 09:32

    How many players do you have this week? If you have an option then I'm guessing more than 18. I'd give Sharenberg a run, because Ottens 62 probably won't make your best 18 anyway.

Tommo09 · 09/06/2017 at 22:43

Downgrades next week???
Want to trade Steele and maybe Newman to Dich and Macrae/Buddy

    SF4 · 09/06/2017 at 23:27

    Newman has been very good, he can sit as my D6 for a couple more weeks. Wouldn't rush to trade him out.

      Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 23:28

      If he is trading him to Doch i would have to say it is worth

Sam · 09/06/2017 at 22:47

2 Trades left –
Trade 1 made – Otten – Hibberd
Taranto – Cousins
Marchbank – Docherty (or wait a week)
Keep Myers for 1 more week? Has the bye next week

    Sam · 10/06/2017 at 00:25

    I meant 2 trades left this round. I don't have Laird or Doch. Laird will come down a bit but not much, has the bye next week so could hold and trade him in when ADEL play in RD 14. Thoughts?

Derek · 09/06/2017 at 22:48

What would happen if your C wasn't in your best 18. Would you get VC as the C score? I'm guess you would.

    Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 22:50

    I am pretty sure you get the VC as the C score

      Derek · 09/06/2017 at 23:02

      I don't have Sloane, but if you had the C on him, you would think about taking a few of the rookies off the field this round and see if you could drop out Sloanes score from the best 18. Depends who your VC was

        Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 23:48

        My bad if you're 19th players score isn't in the top 18 after it's doubled, you don't get it and you don't get the VC

        Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:53

        My VC was Kennedy, he scored 102… are you 100% sure on this Derek?

          Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:56

          Derek I hope you're bloody right mate! I've got 21 players this week, 9 have played and Sloane is my 2nd lowest score so far. Otten edging him for bottom spot on 62…. hmmmm

    Finnius123 · 10/06/2017 at 00:11

    Nope you don't just read the rules – you don't get a captains score at all. Would seriously suck skippering Sloane

      Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:24

      tell me about it…

    Lingy · 10/06/2017 at 01:49

    Captains score x2 would be higher than your lowest score.

    David C · 10/06/2017 at 09:42

    If your Captain's doubled score is NOT in your Best 18 scores, then their points will not count. VC only comes into play if your captain does not play. Just read the rules. Help that helps.

Jack · 09/06/2017 at 23:03

Titch or Zorko?

    SF4 · 09/06/2017 at 23:26

    Titch probably a top 5 mid

      Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:11

      Titch 150

Ken · 09/06/2017 at 23:14

Who to put the C on?

Tom Mitchell

    Iamme · 09/06/2017 at 23:18

    Rocky! The guy can put out huge scores

    B.T · 09/06/2017 at 23:25


    In that order

    Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 23:28

    Liking Titch at the G against Gold Coast

      Imgonnalose · 09/06/2017 at 23:31


Defying_Madness · 09/06/2017 at 23:23

Predicted to get 2050 this week just need a big game from my captain Titch. Been a pretty solid round so far

    Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:52

    I should have went with Barry Mitchellssson…. tossing up between him and Sloane all week and last minute decided to put the VC on Kennedy, ah well.

      Defying_Madness · 10/06/2017 at 00:01

      Yeah I similar to many people had the VC on JPK also

Imgonnalose · 09/06/2017 at 23:28

Hey guys would you recommend Sandi – Kruezer or Myers – Scharenberg as my last trade? Can't make both

B.T · 09/06/2017 at 23:33

Sloane shouldn't be known as elite.
The good players can break through tags, he turns to absolute crap when he's tagged.

    Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:10

    Hate to say it but I bloody agree mate…. 66 ouch!

    Mavs17 · 10/06/2017 at 00:10

    Because he doesnt get any help from others. That is why…

Josh · 09/06/2017 at 23:36

17 trades left with $400k in the bank
Thinking T. Stewart and Taranto to Docherty and Tom Lynch (GC) leaving $35k
Could do a third trade of Sandilands to Ainsworth via Nank dpp leaving $300k with intentions to then trade Roughy and Myers to Yeo and Macrae next week.
Is the third trade worth it or am I better off holding Sandilands?
And if I do hold Sandi is it worth trading Parsons or Myers straight to Ainsworth?

    Ken · 09/06/2017 at 23:55

    I like the 3 trades because your getting absolute guns in
    T.lynch, Docherty, Yeo and macrae

    Those 4 are absolute locks

Dee · 09/06/2017 at 23:49

C on Sloane this week, only managed 66 SC. What a bloody stinker….. I had the VC on Kennedy last night who got 102 SC. Would I get Kennedy's score if Sloanes 66 isn't in my teams best 18 scores? Headache is killing me….. it bloody hurts!

    Finnius123 · 10/06/2017 at 00:10

    Nope you just won't get a captain for this round. That sucks 🙁

      Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:22

      Is that fact? If that's the case you would rather Sloanes 66 be in the best 18 scores, my headache just got worst. I don't think I'll no longer be ranked 11K after this week, after being ranked 26K a month ago. Just when you thought you were starting to get some momentum and ready for the back half of the season, Sloane slaps you with a 66. Ah well….

      David C · 10/06/2017 at 09:14

      The captain always counts if he plays.

    Goat · 10/06/2017 at 00:14

    I thought the answer was above. Sloane as C scored 132 which is likely to count. I think the rule is based on scores. Captain is based on who plays.

      Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:25

      Cheers Goat….

Mavs17 · 10/06/2017 at 00:26

Lloyd dropped this week… might be good to trade him to brown since he probably has better JS

    Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:38

    Bang Bang!

    SF4 · 10/06/2017 at 01:26

    I've traded him already, although it was to Cal Brown.

SCathiest · 10/06/2017 at 00:28

I wonder if Higgo "Pimped His Ride" by going Laird to Hibberd?

    Dee · 10/06/2017 at 00:36

    LOL. Don't really take note of Higgo and Jocks opinions to be honest but you gotta love listening to the podcast every week, Crouching has them covered!

    Lingy · 10/06/2017 at 01:43

    Not too long ago, Jock advised the community to trade out Tom Mitchell. Wasn't the greatest advice although you have to enjoy the boys work.

    Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 08:46

    Higgo is just talking crap now. One week we need to "Pimp our ride" another we should only choose fallen premiums. Don't trust him

      Off The Bench · 10/06/2017 at 09:03

      Yep think for yourself, I VC'd Laird as opposed to pimping him out…

Kyle · 10/06/2017 at 01:23

I cant see sloane finishing as a top 8 mid if teams are gonna be tagging him. I dont have him, but for those that do, is it worth trading him out before he loses too much cash for someone like danger or jelwood or zerrett or anyone averaging 110+

    B.T · 10/06/2017 at 01:40

    tbh it wouldn't be the worst idea, of course you would only be able to do this if you have luxury trades.

    RickeyRat · 10/06/2017 at 09:00

    I have only just traded him in I'm hoping he can start running hard and tackling more expect him to bounce back after there bye ,if the crows are to beat top sides they neex him firing they don't have strong midfield,but now wished i had got Jselwood or Dusty.

      Kyle · 10/06/2017 at 09:28

      I have one spot left in my mids and i was thinking about sloane. But decided a few weeks ago that after seeing his scores whenever he is tagged i wouldnt go anywhere near him. Welcome bont.

Davo · 10/06/2017 at 01:54

Hi community. Trade Myers or Fisher to Cousins? Cheers.

Ben · 10/06/2017 at 05:42

How far off is Balic from getting a game? Should I trade him for Cousins?

sidreaming · 10/06/2017 at 05:54

Is Doc a must have? I have been waiting for him to drop in price so that I can pounce… still waiting. My backline is full premo (Simpson,Shaw,hibbo, Adams, laird, Lloyd), but can swing Adams into midfield. So is doc worth having at the expense of a zerret or pendles etc…(scratch Sloane after last night).

    INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 07:33

    Once your team is complete you could consider Shaw to Doch as a luxury trade

      SCdonkey · 10/06/2017 at 08:47

      That's the plan! It is why i have keeped Shaw this long. Once the backline is filled and hopefully Doc or Adams will have a couple of off games in row.

    neil demons delight · 10/06/2017 at 08:48

    Bont is going to be super cheap and a star I would get him at his price

      INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 08:51

      I'm not seeing Bont in the mids enough ATM to pick him up. But the transaction from scooter to Bont won't be too costly for anyone looking at that

        neil DEMONS DELIGHT · 10/06/2017 at 11:47

        exactly what I will do he is doing a bit of ruck work as well and his disposal was un bont like better than scooter

INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 07:38

Jack Steele your position is under review

    Andy · 10/06/2017 at 08:16

    I'm dropping him to the bench to send a message to the playing group. Hopefully he responds to my message.

      INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 08:36

      Might be looping him with greenwood. Away from Etihad he's useless

        Dee · 10/06/2017 at 15:45

        He's gone… Has to be!

Tommo09 · 10/06/2017 at 08:27

Am seeing some massive projections considering it is a bye round?
Few 2000s and many high 1900s
Meanwhile I'm projected 1870 and will be incredibly lucky to hit that
Anyone else seeing these scores?

    INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 08:37

    Yeah. Don't read too much into it. I don't know if it's factoring in scores that won't count

      David C · 10/06/2017 at 09:10

      Yeh, if you have blue dots that's a zero, but non playing players still get a projected score.

    Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 08:48

    Yeah. I don't think it takes into account the best 18 but I don't know. Anyway projected barely ever works. The other week I had proj. 2400 and ended with just under 2200

      Tommo09 · 10/06/2017 at 09:17

      yeah I'm not sure
      Hopefully I can reach that 2k mark

    SCdonkey · 10/06/2017 at 08:51

    I never take notice of score prediction. It just depresses you, if you don't get near the predicted score.

    Imgonnalose · 10/06/2017 at 09:26

    The projections only take into account top 18

bdog · 10/06/2017 at 08:35

Very concerned about having JJ in my team and my decision to take Sloane over Martin 2 weeks ago is worth trading either or both of them next week for Docherty and Martin/Yeo after there Byes currently have 12 trades left with only one defender away from full premo Thoughts?

    neil demons delight · 10/06/2017 at 08:46

    Must get Doc in .He is the second best def. JJ thinking about 700 k

      Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 08:49

      Doch is the best defender smh. There might be a bit of bias there but Adams in defense would get half what he is now

    SCdonkey · 10/06/2017 at 08:53

    Oh! Please. I hope you're not serious? I'm sure you have other issues and rookies need upgrading, than sideway trading.

    bdog · 10/06/2017 at 09:12

    My Rookies are decent shape with Barrett Hardwick and Stewart the trade an options the week later to bring in lloyd and a cheap FWD/MID for my midfield
    Currently have Adams Laird Hibberd Newman JJ Stewart Berg and loophole hibberd in my backs

      SCdonkey · 10/06/2017 at 09:47

      As decent as they may be, they won't score ya 90+ as often as premos. They still need to be upgraded to a premo, Stewart up for Lloyd might have to spend a bit more to get him in or Newman straight swap.

      You have 12 trades left if ya sideway trade with Sloane and JJ that's 2 wasted trade. Then you're looking at bringing Lloyd in, another trade there.
      Will leave you 9 trades and backline still not filled with Newman as your D6.

neil demons delight · 10/06/2017 at 08:39

anyone trading out Laird for doc is crazy unless you can get him back aka Shake n fake last year with Danger Laird is the no 1 defender not doc

    INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 08:48

    510 traded out Laird. I know one of them. He's gone very quiet

Don't Blush Baby · 10/06/2017 at 08:47

Have Myers on the bench ,might trade down to Cousins and get some more cash for upgrades on in my FWD & DEF next week,cant see Myers making much more anyway

    David C · 10/06/2017 at 09:08

    Only needs one big score to start generating cash. Look at Hannan now.

Thomas · 10/06/2017 at 08:53

Lynch, Fyfe, Doch, Treloar or Pendles C?
Was going to lock in Pendles but saw a stat the Melbourne has conceded the least amount of midfield points this year.

    INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 09:12

    Doch will be busy

    TOPHAWK1 · 10/06/2017 at 10:21

    Pendles or the Doc. Either should do the business. Take your pick.

Jack · 10/06/2017 at 09:07

Taranto – cousins nets about 260
Taranto – Ainsworth nets about nets about 170
Can someone tell me why they would be trading in either.
Is the answer a simple 90k

    redherringfc · 10/06/2017 at 09:26

    Taranto won't end up on your field (once you are full premo) so you are better off with the cash and you still have a warm body on the bench.

    Kyle · 10/06/2017 at 09:29

    Cousins. Both will score similar and he has an extra 90k to make over ainsworth

    Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 10:27

    Cousins is rock bottom price and will help you a lot for cash gen. Ainsworth is bye friendly.

    Like most choices, the R13 bye is almost here and you need to have 18 healthy bodies on the field. That's the make or break. Cousins is better but his bye isn't

      Dutch · 10/06/2017 at 10:47

      I'm leaning towards Cousins for the extra cash gen as well. The big unknown is who has better js, I don't think anyone can answer that with certainty, so the extra cash wins out.

BoltonsBlues · 10/06/2017 at 09:58

Newman to Laird once the byes are finished – tick
Sloane captain last night – stained pants
Traded in franklin this week – tickish, couldve been 150+ if he kicked straight

    TOPHAWK1 · 10/06/2017 at 10:17

    Rory Sloane. What an enigma. He has proven once again he cannot handle the hard tag.
    It must be so bloody frustrating when you know that if he runs free, he can go absolutely massive. Perhaps he is not worth risking the C on him for the rest of the season. He will pump out big scores between now and season's end, but he is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get. Love the Newman to Laird trade after his bye, and Buddy will do the job for you.

      Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 10:25

      You can look on the back of the box and you'll know what you get haha. I don't think Sloane is going to be a great choice from now on, the tag is going to be there because he is the most dangerous follower in the league without it

    Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 10:24

    Buddy Franklin…. should change to Bloody Franklin. How could he bomb those from past 50 but stuff up when he was right next to the goals. At least he could mark though and that helped

    INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 10:32

    I was planning to get Sloane after the byes. But not anymore. Whilst he can go uber large you don't want the hard tag scores

TOPHAWK1 · 10/06/2017 at 10:09

Jack Steele and Andy Otten are on their way out. Otten to Jake Lloyd is a done deal. Jack Steele to Isaac Heeney is very very tempting.

However, I might have to skip on Heeney for now as my midfield needs more grunt. I do not have Rocky, Josh Kelly, Jelwood, Dustin Martin, and Scott Pendlebury. I feel I need to grab two of the above 5 within the next couple of weeks to ensure that my side stays in touch with the leading coaches.

Going to be another tough week of choices ahead.

    Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 10:22

    I agree. The next few weeks will be the make or break. That's why I am trying to plan forward and hopefully hold my discipline. That's the only way I think I will get through

      TOPHAWK1 · 10/06/2017 at 10:45

      Bloody oath. Discipline is the key. I am hoping I can get away with two trades this week. (Just grabbing Cousins and Macrae) It means I could use 3 trades next week (Hopefully one down and two up) and then it would leave me with 10 trades for the remaining post bye matches this season. This time last year, I started to fritter away too many trades around this time. My ranking was higher last year than right now, but I only had 7 trades left after round 13. And as a result, I ran out of trades with two rounds left. Cost me big in finals going out in straight sets and my ranking tumbled out of the top 1000. I am determined not to screw up like that again this year. Those 3 extra trades are gonna be like diamonds this year. How are you going on the trades front?

        Tyruddanaut · 10/06/2017 at 14:42

        ATM it doesn't look great. I have 9 trades and 300k cash so I'm hoping that I can make full premium by the end of the byes and still have 6 trades for injured premiums. I might use a couple as a luxury upgrade for Roughy but not until R18

    INPieman · 10/06/2017 at 10:25

    I tossed Otten last night. At quarter time I was cursing like a sailor I didn't get rid of Steele instead. I think I'm going to make Steele my bench cover for Fwd Mids if possible. He just doesn't have a tank & 64% TOG is rubbish. I think you do need 2 of those beasts in your team Hawk & quickly

      Dutch · 10/06/2017 at 10:44

      Agree Pieman, Steele may be the ideal F7/M9, my current thinking also

    JohndJames · 10/06/2017 at 14:45

    I feel this year there are so many players in the mids doing well that you could pick any eight out of sixteen and still be happy with them,I only have Pendles out of that lot and I consider myself full premo in the mids,but others might not.My eight are,Danger,Mitch,Pendles,Bont,Oliver,Fyfe,Hanners and Beams.

    Dee · 10/06/2017 at 15:46


Choice · 10/06/2017 at 10:28

Marchbank to Hibberd
Marchbank to Docherty, Barrett to Cousins (to afford Doch)
will have 10 trades left, 3 upgrades to go to full premo

TOPHAWK1 · 10/06/2017 at 10:30

Thanks Doncs. I know you are a big Dusty fan and I have to admit I am as well. I have always had him in my side because of his DDP eligibility in the previous few years. Has never let me down. Dusty is a semi POD! In any case, like Tyru says in his post, disclipline from here is mega important. That's why I backed out on Rocky at the last minute this week and traded in Jack Macrae. I will watch all of the above ultra premos in the next week or two and go from there. Dusty comes back from his bye next week and has had a nice rest. Perhaps I just grab him next week to get the ball rolling. Cheers mate.

Dutch · 10/06/2017 at 10:52

All week have planned to get Rockliff in this week, now looking at Zorko as an alternative option. Apart from the Port game they've both been at premium level of performance. Zorko's $30k cheaper and I'm starting to think his body is more trustworthy. Rockliff however has a higher ceiling. Who would you choose and why?

    Derek · 10/06/2017 at 11:30

    Have you ever dislocated a shoulder?

    I'd be having a look at rocky make a few tackles before getting him

Pauly Walnuts · 10/06/2017 at 11:07

Anyone think Stef can go big against Freo with no Sandi ? tossing up between him or T Mitch as VC. Mitch probs a safer bet ?

    SCdonkey · 10/06/2017 at 11:19

    Archie!!! Yep Ouchie!! Will hurt Stefans scoring sharing ruck. Titch would be best option to put VC on.

Alex · 10/06/2017 at 11:08

Shaw-K Simpson

    neil demonsdelight · 10/06/2017 at 12:09

    Shaw has been a huge disappointment and Eddy never given a go Hibberd simpson lynch excellent value choices

POTS · 10/06/2017 at 12:46

Is Sandi > Lynch (via Nank) worth a trade? OR should I wait for Wallis, Buddy or Yeo next week? Have 19 players this week and 13 trades left after my two this week

Joshua · 10/06/2017 at 12:52

Lynch, Fyfe, Docherty or Pendles captain?

bdog · 10/06/2017 at 12:58

I can downgrade Pruess to Stradinca then go Myers to Doc this week or should i wait a week to do the same Trade im thinking Myers will score over his b/e and Doc wont reach 128
I'm playing for Ranking this year What is more important 50 to 60 points this week or pocketing extra 30-40 Thousand for Future Trades ?

David P · 10/06/2017 at 12:58

I am troubled by the Kennedy and Sandi injuries. How long will they really be out for? This week I can afford Sandi to Kruezer (or better option) and Kennedy to Dixon (can be up and down but a POD). I jumping the gun? I have 16 trades and won't need to trade next week.

    Russty_ · 10/06/2017 at 13:24

    It's impossible to know regarding their injuries, do you think you'll win most of your leagues and score well this week if you don't do those trades? If the answer's no, maybe you need to do it ,so you don't slip in rankings if you're playing for that.

      David P · 10/06/2017 at 13:38

      Thanks Russty, I should be ok this week so maybe it is best I hold off, better to keep trades than panic trade at this stage in my situation. Plus I am suss about Kruezers ability to stay on the park for the whole season – and I am a Carlton supporter.

        DavidSA · 10/06/2017 at 14:55

        I'm holding Sandilands, turns into a vital ruck POD R14 onward.

        Further more his absense has been hyped up too much. Players with good bye cover are not hurt by Sandi being rested.
        He will be so refreshed and I can see the big man come home strong with 97-103 avg from R14 till end.

        whatyasmokin · 10/06/2017 at 15:58

        You can trade him now and only lose 2 games or keep him out for 4 minimum, let alone the rest of the season.

        You're suss about Kreuzer's ability to stay fit, yet you're keeping a guy who's out for 4?

          David P · 10/06/2017 at 16:36

          Good point. I forgot to mention that I have Nankervis as DPP.
          Cheers guys, appreciate your thoughts.

Andy · 10/06/2017 at 13:14

I did it!! I traded in Kreuzer for Sandi….
My priority is winning my league and with Kreuzer playing next week it made the decision a little easier. I'm still fairly nervous.
I'm sitting at 9th and need to take a calculated risk to cement a spot in the top 8. The doggies won it from outside the top 4 so I know it can be done. I won my league last year and enjoyed the off-season way too much and started the season very slowly.

    Russty_ · 10/06/2017 at 13:20

    Yeah you only need to make the 8 to win the League mate, top 4 is better with the double chance of course, you've gotta have the trades left though in case something happens and so you can come home like a freight train in the finals.
    If one of your big guns goes down during finals and you can't replace em, your season's done.

Dee · 10/06/2017 at 15:52

Otten to Lloyd or Roberton this week? Already have Doch, Hibberd, Adams, Laird and Shaw.

    Russty_ · 10/06/2017 at 17:51

    Lloyd, Sydney are on the way up and Saints on the way down.

Dee · 10/06/2017 at 15:56

Cousins has stopped? Looks like he'll be staying as emergency, no loophole for you mate if you keep going down that way. Is Cousins Ben Cousins cousin or second cousin? Wekkum…. Crouching one waacccchhhhkkaahhh!!

FCAbel · 11/06/2017 at 12:39

Kelly or Pendles Captain? Kelly's big scores have been at home, but he is against Carlton at the G. Pendles goes well historically against Dees at the G, but Melbourne have kept most mids low this year.

    Patch · 11/06/2017 at 12:43

    I'd go Kelly. Lke the bit of risk in it, and suspect Vince will go to one of Pendlebury or Treloar. I've gone Pendles as I've got no other option

      FCAbel · 11/06/2017 at 12:59

      Thanks Patch. Legend

Whitey · 11/06/2017 at 17:55

Ok, ok, I concede. I'm just going to have to pay overs for Dock aren't I?

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