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SuperCoach RD11: The Heroes, The Villains, The Damned.

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One down, two to go.

The first of the proper bye rounds has come and gone. Most of us survived, but only just.

Poor returns from the majority of our on-field rookies impacted scoring heavily, as did the late withdrawal of Aaron Sandilands, but this was offset by some terrific outings by the likes of Kelly, Martin, Dangerfield and Selwood.

About 1700 was a par score, with those scoring north of this enjoying an increase in overall rank.

The Heroes

The numbers Josh Kelly (176 SC) produced in his demolition job of Essendon were outstanding. Very few players have the tank to go with this bloke – his gut running is phenomenal. Kelly racked up 38 disposals, 10 tackles, 14 contested possessions, 1 goal and seven clearances, all at 86% efficiency. After 11 rounds he’s averaging 114.1 and hasn’t dropped below 90 once. His consistency is exceptional.

Charlie Dixon (167 SC) is an enigma, but maybe Port have finally cracked the code on how to unleash his full potential. Dixon played a blinder on Thursday night, with 14 of his 20 disposals contested to go along with four goals, six tackles and eight marks. But keep in mind, if you opt to take the plunge and trade the spearhead into your side, get set for a rollarcoaster. Like most key forwards, Charlie has enjoyed some stunning highs and agonising lows in 2017. Three scores over 130 have been offset somewhat by four scores under 80.

The legend of Dustin Martin (165 SC) continues to grow. Dusty was unbelievably good on Saturday night, amassing 38 disposals (15 contested), 8 marks, 6 tackles, 9 clearances and 2.1. The quality outing pushed his average up to 117.9 and he looks set to challenge for the mantle as the game’s number one midfielder.

Once again, the Joel Selwood (151 SC) and Patrick Dangerfield (149 SC) combination united to almost singlehandedly drag Geelong over the line. The pair had 66 disposals, 40 contested possessions, 4 goals, 16 clearances and 11 tackles between them. Sidekick Scott Selwood (101 SC) registered his third ton in a row, complete with another decent haul of 10 tackles, and rewarding those who traded him in.

Zac Williams (146 SC) has now officially taken over from Heath Shaw as the Giants’ number 1 attacking defender. Running off half back, he booted 3.1 and had 12 contested possessions, 7 tackles and 4 clearances. The score pushed his average up to 100 and he must now be considered a genuine top 6 defensive candidate.

Brad Ebert (141 SC) has flown under the radar in 2017. He loves the hard stuff and his fine inside work has seen him averaging 111.7 in a career-best season. While he’s never been known for high efficiency, he currently sits third in the competition for tackles, which helps boost his totals. With a lowest score of 89 and 7 tons in 10 games, he shapes as an excellent POD.  

Tigers pair Bacher Houli (137 SC) and Trent Cotchin (129 SC) continued their exceptional form, while it’s been a remarkable resurgence from Adam Treloar (128 SC), who is averaging 131 since returning from an ankle injury three rounds ago.

The Villains

Rory Laird (59 SC) copped a head knock early in the match against Geelong and didn’t seem himself for the rest of the game, while Matt Priddis (81 SC) has been mediocre the past 3 weeks, contributing returns of 73, 81 and 82.

Fantasy-relevant RUC/FWD pick Toby Nankervis (82 SC) is enduring a rough patch after a bright start to the season, averaging just 83.6 in his past five matches, while fellow ruck beast Shane Mumford (78 SC), has been a little better despite his poor return on the weekend, averaging 96 during the same period. Popular defensive options Zach Touhy (76 SC) and Alex Rance (62 SC) were not able to capitalise on Geelong and Richmond’s convincing wins.

Welcome back, Shaun Higgins (64 SC), we’ve missed you. It was always going to be a matter of time before you returned. Higgo enjoys spending his time swapping in between the sections of this article, knocking up three nice scores of 120+ so far in 2017, but also four scores below 80.

The Redeemers

Since his double ton four weeks ago, Gary Ablett (139 SC) had endured a lean run which included a pair of 80s as well as missing a match with that bung shoulder of his. But he was back in a big way against the Eagles, compiling a precise 36 touches, 16 of them contested, to go with 6 clearances, all at 83% efficiency.

Heath Shaw (99 SC) finally found a bit of form and his owners will be hoping he is bale to maintain this level for the rest of the season.

The Prodigies

In a week where we were forced to play every rookie on our field, the young guns unfortunately produced an absolute crap-fest. Only Will Hoskin-Elliott (91 SC), Tim Taranto (82 SC), Tom Stewart (73 SC) and Huge Greenwood (72 SC) cracked over 60.

James Parsons (56 SC), Andrew McGrath (55 SC), Dan Butler (54 SC), Ed Vickers-Willis (50 SC), David Meyers (46 SC), Shai Bolton (45 SC), Harry Perryman (42 SC), Andy Otten (36 SC), James Stewart (35 SC) and Daniel Lloyd (31 SC) were all pretty ordinary.

James Cousins (56 SC) looks one of the best options on the bubble if you don’t already have him, while team-mate Dallas Willsmore (46 SC) and Gold Coast’s Will Brodie (32 SC) also played their second games. Defensive bubble boy Matt Scharenberg (46 SC) will only get better with each match, while Freo first-gamer Luke Ryan (37 SC) didn’t get a huge amount of the ball on debut.

The Damned

If ever there was a genius master of hindsight coach, it was the one who did not start with Nat Fyfe (104 SC). He’s dropped nearly 100K from his starting price and his score on the weekend was his first ton in the past six matches. The rule of thumb is never sideways a premo, but it’s starting to get to the point where those with trades up their sleeve could be considering a luxury sideways swap if Nathanial doesn’t start to pull his finger out.

Touk Miller (67 SC) has proved to be your classic trap in 2017. The dreaded “more midfield time” slogan was bandied about in the pre season, but unfortunately for his owners it just hasn’t come to fruition. He’s averaging a paltry 78 so far this season, reaching triple figures just twice.

 

How did you go this week?

 Twitter: @CarlPfeiffer9

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Jimbob

Didn't see Z Williams in defensive 50 at all

INPieman

Didn't see an opponent on him either

manolaki

He won't score three goals every week or play the Bombers every week

Barrel

Still easily top six. 4 tons, 5 scores in the 90s – only twice scored below 85. Already performing at much high level than last year.

Jim

Otten was one massive villian.. Not sure who to give the boot to this week; Marchbank or Otten (Got 118k to spend on)

Fraser McInnnes? Is he done? Any point keeping him?

Where is Brett Eddy surely Hinkley would come to his senses cause he's been lighting it up from goal for days now

SC_Kev7

As Marchbank has already had his bye I'd go with Otten

Yeah, he's done. Lycett is just about ready to go isn't he? His JS was very shaky to begin with.

Who would you drop to get him in, Jim?

INPieman

McInness went back on the rookie list. He's done. Port got rid of their injury list as it wasn't being used. And with that went Brett Eddy's chance of a game. The only player they are missing is The Chad. And he's due back shortly

joe

Eddy and McInnes are both done … and I bought both of them.

McInnes will not see playing time unless Petrie and Lycett get hurt again. Even if Eddy were still on the senior list, he's behind Monfries in the pecking order. Time to dump them both when possible.

Ethan

they don't quite play the same role in the team monfries and eddy

Jim

Dropping Mcinnes for Scharenberg this week

manolaki

Otten has to go with bye coming up.

McInnes won't play this year again unless Eagles have a few injuries.

I got rid of Eddy last week. Not sure what he needs to do to get a game but he obviously isn't doing enough

Defying_Madness

Breaking his teamates legs would be a start

MickyB

Who do we think will end up being the top 6 defenders and forwards by the end of the season?

whatyasmokin
lok

that doesn't mean much.

whatyasmokin

Neither do people's guesses.

TheScacman

No order

Backs Docherty, Adams, Laird, Roberton and two of Williams, Rance, Hurley or Tuohy.

Forwards Yeo-yo, Kennedy, Franklin, Macrae, Lynch, Cameron/Dixon/Dahlhaus

lok

Lloyd

Defying_Madness

I don't think Franklin will finish top 6 this year.

manolaki

Your guess is as good as mine.

I think Laird Doc Adams Hibberd Lloyd and maybe Robertson or Williams.

Forward other than Yeo Dahl and McCrae I can't pick them. I am not a fan of key forwards. I have Nank and Steele still so I am hoping they improve to 100 avg and become keepers

SC_Kev7

Only the most trigger happy coach would trade out Fyfe now. He's bottomed out and a bit banged up. His round 13 bye will do him good.

INPieman

Agree Kev. Get to full premo & if you have 8+ trades consider it. But injuries will come & so will regret

manolaki

Agree. Keep until your team is full and assess. I hope Fyfe and Shaw average 110 for the rest of the season and prove the haters wrong

H Lee

who is the best trade in option for sandi out of Lynch (GCS), Franklin, dixon or grundy

whatyasmokin

Lynch and Franklin.

Winter

SPP to the Bont or wait a week?
I do need to win this week against a tough opponent though

Ben

Wait a week is the way to go in terms of $.. SPP should go up and Bont should come down.

manolaki

You could go SPP to JPK. Still very low and great scoring potential

Defying_Madness

I like this better. Wallis may have had an impact on a few dogs players including Bont. Wait to see him go big again first.

Winter

Already got JPK mate, started with the beast

INPieman

Nice Carl. I think Otten deserved a run in the Villians or Damned. Or perhaps the useless Carrot section. Can't wait to p*ss him off

Soothsayer

And then he bangs out a 121!!! It seems that his score is role dependent.

HallyMate

Trading Priddis in over Dusty 3 weeks ago has to be one of the worst decisions I've ever made, wanting to offload him to Zorko this week. Thoughts?

jez_m

I think we've seen the last of Priddis as a Supercoach player unfortunately. West Coast do play some home games after their bye though so if you can hold him for a bit longer and work on getting the rest of your team finalised, I'd probably do that.

Derek

4 out of 5 games after bye are at home.

INPieman

Lycett due back shortly. He's ben lacking a decent Ruck tapping it to him. I'd wait to see if that changes things

Dice

Yeah Hally, had him all year and he's been disappointing. Lost $115,000 since round 1 – come at me Tom Rockliff

KrazeeEyezK1lla

I like the Zorko trade. lots of upside

pod

If Rocky returns Zorko scoring might fall.

INPieman

Rocky & Zorko have pigged out together before. Many times

Sana

I've got him too mate. Makes Fyfe owners look lucky. I'm gonna hold him til I'm full premo, then if im still trade rich I'll ditch him if he hasn't improved

Daniel Z

I started with fyfe and priddis. It's been that kind of year.

whatyousmokin

Both could come home really strong, only just halfway through the season and they are still fit and on the ground every week.

Wedge

Go on footywire and have a look at priddis sc breakdown for the year. It'll make you feel a bit more confident that he can still pump out decent scores. Three in a row last year rnd 5-8 I think about 80 or 70 average scored and then pretty much tons for the rest of the season.

Wedge

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/players/year.php?first

This link should be a nice easy way to view his 2016 sc scores

jez_m

Thoughts on these three trades?

Hampton to Scharenberg
Eddy to Cousins (via Bolton DPP)
Taranto to Wines (via Greenwood DPP – I reckon Wines is a good pickup for less than $500K)

That leaves me with a complete midfield (Titch, Danger, J. Selwood, Bont, JPK, Fyfe, Treloar, Wines + SPP on my bench) and Gives me $115K to get Jake Lloyd next week for Otten.

pod

Nice trades jez, Wines is excellent value.

Derek

I would think about trading out SPP instead of Eddy.

Have a heap more cash

If you are full premium midfield having SPP cash on bench is a waste. He isn't DPP so you can use him.

Plus you keep your DPP player in your midfield to swing with.

jez_m

I did think about that Derek, but without SPP I don't have 18 players for round 13. I'm hoping Callum Brown from Collingwood or another mid rookie gets a run this week so I can trade SPP after round 13. Also have Stewart or EVW to trade down to Luke Ryan soon too hopefully.

Derek

fair enough. I'm keeping SPP until after round 13 for same reason.

Even if you have to trade him down to a non-playing DPP rookie (have a decent bench cover for forward line) and swing Dahl or macCrea into mids if you need. can't have that much cash on bench if they arn't a DPP

jez_

Great minds think alike, Derek! I've had to move my DPP's forward (Greenwood and Bolton) for trades and to make sure I can field as many players as possible. I've got SPP, Myers, Cousins, Parsons, Bolton and Greenwood as my midfield and forward rookies at the moment. One of those DPP's will end up back in my mids at some point though

whatyasmokin

Wines averages 100 every year, reasonable value.

manolaki

Looks good.
Wines is great value.
The other bloke is right though you can generate more cash from SPP or make a shorter jump

Hoot

I need a Fwd rookie to help me generate cash.

Any good options?

INPieman

On the bubble nope. But Jay Kennedy Harris had an astonishing 47 touches & 8 tackles on the weekend. 162k with a BE of 30. That's a desperate option. With the Pies injuries the door is open for Callum Brown 117k Mid/Fwd & Kayle Kirby 117k to get a crack

Defying_Madness

Why does every new rookie have to have the round 13 bye. I might even have to consider Brodie from GC at this point

Rocksta

I reckon Callum Brown is a shoe in to debut this week.
Hopefully he goes alright and we can bring him in for Parsons in a few weeks.

Stirlsy

Bring on Fatso 6 in the magoo's but i hope they keep him on ice till next year…

neil Demons Delight

Boltons got his eye on jkh wouldn't touch him personally but if you.re desperate Brown might be better had him in my first team cheers

joe

There are none unless you haven't already got Greenwood.

IRRELEVANT

Unless you have any MID rookies (Greenwood) in MID and swing them FWD to get James Cousins (HAW).

Mike

Should I trade Macrae into my side this week which will get me a step closer to a full premo side or do I wait a week for him to drop in price a bit? Just means I might not be able to use the 3 trades next week for as many upgrades… HELP!?

joe

Well,he will probably go down by about $10,000 next week. Is that more important than getting his points? Up to you.

BrownlowBoy

Trade or hold Gunston?

jez_m

He served me well last year, but I'm glad I didn't start with him this year. I'd probably trade. Hawks play GCS, Adel, Coll, GWS and Geelong in their next 5 games and I doubt the ball will be in the forward line much for at least three of those games which doesn't bode well for his scoring.

BrownlowBoy

He needs his own category, he's actual garbage.

jez_m

Yeah he's really struggled this year. As a Hawks fan it's pretty obvious he needs a good team around him to perform from a SC point of view and Hawthorn don't have that at the moment

INPieman

That's one premo I would dismiss ASAP

Danners

If you have plenty of trades, maybe use him as F7, otherwise wield the axe

Nate

Hey guys, built up a war chest for upgrading this round and next. Definitely going to bring in a premo forward for Eddy or Parsons.

Laird, Adams, Rance, Lloyd, Newman, Stewart (Sharenburg, Hibberd)
Danger, Pendlebury, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Wines, SPP, Barrett (Berry, Fisher, Myers)
Grundy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahl, Macrae, Nank, Petracca, Greenwood, Parsons (Bolton, Eddy)

750k in the bank. 17 trades left.
Any suggestions guys? Thanks

KrazeeEyezK1lla

Docherty is missing from your defence. would make him a priority, regardless of price

Nate

Cheers Crazee. Was thinking maybe Parsons/Eddy to Franklin and Newman to Doch. Definitely wanting to bring in Doc and Hibberd (Melb) this week too!

KrazeeEyezK1lla

I'd take a punt on Buddy if I didn't already have him. nearly averaging 96 currently in a team that's under performed. I think Swans will win a decent amount of games coming home and push for finals, and Buddy will be in the thick of it.

(go Swans)

Defying_Madness

I think Heeney over Franklin is a better option

whatyasmokin

Nah, Franklin proven.

Defying_Madness

He also has 6 games under 85

whatyasmokin

He's also played 10 games though. Franklin cheaper than Heeney and ok BE. No doubt Heeney is a gun.

Nate

cheers guys. Im thinking Franklin myself though. Would love to get Yeo but feel safer picking up Buddy this week instead of Yeo next week

jez_m

If you can field 18 players for for Round 13 (and you can afford it), I'd go Stewart to Docherty, Sandi to Martin and SPP to Bont

Top Gun

Parsons to Dixon, SPP to Dusty or Kelly, Newman to Doch. Welcome

KrazeeEyezK1lla

Considering Sandi to Kreuzer. Probably won't make the trip to Brisbane this week, then the bye. Also barely cracks 100 when he gets there. Annoying

Defying_Madness

Highly considering this move also. Only problem is I have to make another trade to get this done.

whatyasmokin

Kreuzer could end up top ruck

Swans2012

This is what I'm thinking Krazee, kreuzer has often threatened to live up to his potential, could this be the year? If sandi is out this week I'm thinking I'll do it…Now don't mention it again……#shhhhhhh

A. Sandilands

There's no way I'm risking squeezing myself into the cab to the airport let alone 4 hours in a plane i can't even stand full height in. Trade me, grab someone else, I've served my purpose this year and am happy to finish with a low 90 average from here.

randomcliche

Heya big fella, thanks for the update….but where were you last week? Your team mate Dac Zawson is on here all the time when we need an update on his long-term and short-term prospects… Follow his lead, an exemplary AFL player and community member!

manolaki

Sandi to end up top 3-4 ruckman. Statement!

Randomcliche2

He is mince meat if he doesn't play this week. Gives a 50 to 100 point head start on all non rnd 13 bye rucks from here on out. And it bigger if you are faced with a donut.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Good one Carl.
Some monster scores helped hide the rookie crap
Nank will love a well earned rest this week
apparently rance going good camping with the tiger cubs – insert recipe for disaster.
Not much on the rookie horizon just more ah well picks.
Shaz and Ryan struggled with tempo of afl yesterday.
Gee don't know on shaz but not a great deal else.

BoltonsBlues

If Sandi isnt fit this week are we culling?
I dont think he will be, 1 more week, then the bye, Freo want finals and im thinking they will rest him again this week.
thinking doing
Sandi > Cousins
Stewart > Franklin
leaves me 212k and 20 players and 17 players the next 2 weeks. enough coin to upgrade Newman after the byes and SPP/Barret, then only one more rookie on the field (Greenwood) 10 trades left

ProTravo

Josh Kelly was just beautiful to watch on the weekend. Supercoach lock for many years to come me thinks.
Reminds me of Judd with his aerobic capacity and ability to burst out of stoppages and also reminds me of Pendles the way he uses the ball. Simply majestic.

gator59

Absolute gun… Gunnar look good in saints colours next year

ProTravo

I wish Hawks used the 2 first round picks to get him last year instead of the cripple O'meara.
Would look good in any colours.

Defying_Madness

I still think we (Hawthorn) might be aiming to get him. Expect an offload of players at the end of the year so salary shouldn't be a problem.

Derek

Tyrone must still be worth something 😉

Top Gun

Offload O'Meara, Tyrone, Gibson, Hodge, Burgoyne and then get Kelly. Lol.

redherringfc

Is this alongside Fyfe? I'll look forward to that.

gator59

and may

lok

Great player.. had him in supercoach every year. Once he learns the full ropes of the inside game, then he can be compared to the likes of Danger, Sloane etc..

ProTravo

He will never be the inside player like a Danger or Sloane . . . just like they will never have his disposal efficiency. Still he wins a lot of contested ball and has a higher tackle count this season than Danger, Selwood Dusty ect. Ranked 17th in the comp.

joe

Am I the only person not sold on Kelly yet? He looks undersized for a dominant mid (and, at 22, should have built up his physique by now).

I'm not saying he ain't good. I just don't quite see an A+ in him yet. I look at him and see Bryce Gibbs, not Dangerfield.

Ben

Tough decision on which defender to bring in this week.
My current premos are Adams, Laird, Simpson (and maybe Newman).
Some good value options in Hibberd, Roberton, maybe even Shaw who has bottomed out.
Lloyd will come into my team in 2 weeks time.
Docherty I'm hoping might have a bad game at some point so I can get him cheaper but has been very consistent.

whatyasmokin

By the time you get Docherty it will be 3/4 through the season, so what is the point?

Ben

Should I bother trading in any top forwards (heeny, franklin or macrae) this week or wait. They all seem quite possible to drop in price after this round and my rookies (bolton, greenwood and parsons) all could make cash.
Still got ainsworth in mid so should i maybe trade him out for one of the three forwards and put bolton or parsons on the bench in mid?

DacZawson

Read on the AFL website that Ainsworth is almost back to full fitness, I'd do some more research about his possibility of getting a game before culling him

#Pieinghigh

Need a number 1 forward to complete my forward line.
Current forward line is: Frankling, Steele, Higgins, Ryder, Heeney, Taranto

Option 1. Taranto > Dahlhaus 478k (Rd 12)
Option 2. Taranto > Yeo 515k (Rd 12)
Option 3 Taranto > Wallis 473k (This round).

Thoughts community?

SC_Kev7

Dahl

whatyasmokin

Dahl

Derek

Dahlaus

Lazza

You need 4 players to complete your fwd line

Daniel Z

I was thinking three.

#Pieinghigh

Have gone
Sandilands > Dahlhaus (via Ryder)
Next week will go Taranto > Yeo.

This will make my final team:
Adams, Laird, Roberton, Hibberd, Shaw, Stewart (to be turned into Lloyd in 2 weeks)
Danger, Mitchell, Pendles, J Selwood, Fyfe, Treloar, Hanneberry, Greenwood* (*Pending Barrett Upgrade in 2 weeks to fallen premo)
S Martin, Ryder
Yeo, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Steele, Heeney, Higgins

I am fine having Heeney at F5 and Higgins at F6. The only other one I would consider upgrading would be Steele but it is not a high priority.

Dean

Thats a pretty weak forward if its going to be your final 6 – Not having any of what look to be the top 6 defenders such as: Yeo, Macare, Dixon, Dahlhaus, Nank, Green and even Wallis is looking like a must have.
Wallis is currently the #1 forward based on averages as he is on 110 and Yeo on 107 – However Wallis has only played the two games so his average will drop, but he looks bloody awesome considering he's been out for a year.

Bring in Dahlhaus seeing he has had his bye.

whatyasmokin

Can't call Wallis a must have based on two rounds.

Max

Dahl

ProTravo

Anyone considering Mitch Wallis as a POD? Not many great premo options up fwd and consistency can be an issue with key forwards.
Thoughts?

KrazeeEyezK1lla

why not? I like it

Cold_Case

Looks pretty good. He has averaged mid 80s to 90s last couple of years which includes some low injury affected scores. Be ready for some 130s and 80s in his scoring. What forward this year is any different though.

whatyasmokin

Nah. Hasn't even played more than 19 games in a season. Only averaged 100 once out of about 7 years.

Will

Im bringing him in this week.

Top Gun

I sense a trap!

Dalvin

Full premium his week (with jack steele).

Thoughts on getting buddy at F7 to purely have him as a loophole with picket (non playing) for when he does have his big scores?

E.g When buddy goes big, take his score over Steele, when he goes under 75, put Steele on field.

Thoughts?

I've got 11 trades left and playing for overall rank

SC_Kev7

Fantastic move

INPieman

Full Premo with Buddy as a spare & 11 trades. Great effort. Please post your team

Derek

im jealous

neil Demons Delight

yeah I would like to see that seems too good but congratulations my friend

Dean

I think that's a crazy move.
Save the trade and if one of your forwards does end up injured or suspended then trade Buddy or who ever in, what happens if Buddy end's up injured. Not to mention it's not like he's B/E is 50 or low, its at 105, which is higher than his average.

Saving the trades could be the difference from finishing top 10 to top 5000 – We are only half way through the season and with 9 trades left I guarantee you'll struggle to finish in the top 1000

Derek

No

Do the fancy luxury trades once you have a full premium team.

BlueNath

Not to mention that you could only loophole buddy if Pickett/Carton were playing AFTER Sydney too. (Same as VW scenario suggested etc). Loopholing isn't always possible

Tommo09

Thoughts on my team and my trades this week?
I am a bit lost on what to do

Def: Adams, Laird, Simpson, Hibberd, TUOHY, Newman (STEWART, HIBBERD)
Mid: TMitch, DANGER, SELWOOD, Bont, Pendles, Kennedy, Fyfe, SELWOOD (Barrett, Myers, Greenwood)
Ruc: Mumford, Sandi (Strnadica)
Fwd: Heeney, Steele, NANK, Lynch (GCS), Hannan, Parsons (Bolton, Eddy)

Want to get in Dahl and Cousins in this week and Docherty in the next couple but don't know who to trade

Thanks community

Nate

Hey Tommo. I'm looking to bring Doc in too mate either this week or next. How much cash do you have for upgrades mate?

Sam_01

You got Newman Stewart barret all ripe for the culling don't get to attached to any of them, surely you flipping greenwood in forward and put parsons on the bench, I went parsons up to lynch this week so glad to have the flog off my field

DavidSA

Yeah even though Stewart still has low BE I have to look at moving him on too for me to get to full premo this round

Tommo09

Better to go Docherty or Dahl this round
Leaning towards Dahl as he is cheaper and hopefully Doch drops a bit in the next few weeks
If Docherty, do I trade Stewart or Newman?
And Myers or Barrett to Cousins?

Top Gun

Newman. Stewart BE is low, Newmans at 81

Tommo09

Sorry have 14 trades and $241k left

Jim_bob321

What do u guys think…
EVW (BE of roughly 58) to Mitch Wallis?

Sam_01

If you think he will be top 6 then go for it, personally have never considered him for SuperCoach

INPieman

Sounds good to me

whatyasmokin

Not convinced with Wallis.

Sam_01

Thoughts on Fyffe down to wines? Helps out for byes saves some crutial coin. Wines looking like ports number 1 mid and they are a solid side, Fyffe doesn't look like he gives a toss, young blakely stepping up to take his place he is actually worth more than Fyfe at the moment I think! Just curious on everyone's thoughts

DavidSA

Think his injuries may have reduced his potential much?
He is not running out games like he used to

Sam_01

The week for me to go on wines is now will be a bit of a risky move if I do it, kinda just want someone to talk me into it haha! Will be full premo after this week bar tom Stewart who will need to go up to docherty after that is done I'll have 7 trades left at full premo

whatyasmokin

If you want a burn man go for it.

whatyasmokin

Fyfe is season ranked at 23 out of all players, really not that bad. One big score and he'll be right up there.

whatyasmokin

lol you're saving 14K? Surely you're trolling here?

Sam_01

money is tight this year lads XD
Yeah look probably shouldn't do it
Fyfe is ranked 1st for clangers
with 5 a game and only averaging 26 disposals needs to pull his finger out

whatyasmokin

He could come home strong though, I'd wait till later in the season for such a luxury trade.

Sam_01

yeah true thanks for talking sense into me lads

Stirlsy

Fyfe put to much of a preseason in, he was training long b4 the last season finished and his body shape and size has slowed him down because of it, but not giving a toss gee Sam dont know what you've been watching but i see the guy play every week and he is busting his guts to get to contests.
He will be much better next year just wait and see.

INPieman

Great insight Stirlsy. He's not as sleek as he was. A bit top heavy

Stirlsy

Spot on Pieman He was even heavier early in season i think they are trying to lighten him off up top as the season goes, Should start with the man bun….. but yes was very easy to see he was the wrong body shape early in the season they might of wanted him like that other players have been through this and got it wrong but returned the year after back to their best.
He is at least a yard slower because of it.

neil Demons Delight

Goodwin will fix him up when he lobs but will he get a mid game

Who cares

Absolute rubbish..

Who cares

Absolute rubbish….

Randomcliche2

I nearly pulled the pin this week, but didn't. Watched him and saw a bloke genuinely giving it a crack and doing a lot of team things, albeit not sc things like hitout to advantage in q4. He missed some marks he would have taken pre broken leg. Which I reckon is one reason for the drop off, ie negative points for dropped Mark instead of a mark and kick. If he starts clunking them again watch the F out, you'll want him. I'm looking elsewhere for my rnd 13 fix….smiles at Sandi and Roughy.

Sam_01

Agree mr cliche, look fyfe is a star would be silly to trade him, gotta back in your premos I guess! he has to and will come around. Since rucks are so sketchy this year I'm gonna move nank into my ruck and trade sandy to yeo and roughy up to macrae.

Defying_Madness

I will be giving Fyfe this week to prove himself. I believe he still has it in him, but whether it is this year or the next I would have to say the latter.

bUCKET__

Ainsworth every chance to get a call up at some point soon if fit, if you've held this far might as well hold a little further

Sam_01

Can you make enough to bring in docherty?

Stanks21

Na i cant at this stage. Just had a go

Jack

Hanners or JPK?

Defying_Madness

JPK. Always finishes the season strong

Sam_01

JPK always comes home like a train, can't really go wrong with either jpk is a bit cheaper aswell I think I'd probably just go him

whatyasmokin

So was Yeo. Scott Selwood. We'll see who was the pick of the season at the end of the season…………

pod

Dahl $478K or Macrae $523K for Nank. I could also dump Otten or McGrath, then swing a few DPP's, and grab both Dahl and Macrae.
Any advice welcome.

INPieman

Slow down pod. Don't trade Nank. Surely you can ditch someone else

pod

Thanks INP, I'll keep him but having both Dahl & Macrae this week is soooo tempting.

redherringfc

Grab them both. Nank seems a luxury trade to do it, though.

pod

Cheers red I'll find a way.

pod

Must be drunk.

Dane

Where can you find centre bounce attendance stats?

Bruce Macavany

Only in my SPECIAL little note pad

Randomcliche2

Dunno mate, asked a similar question last week. Fantasy insider anyone? AFL advanced stats? Help a bro out community!

CJay

Riewoldt still out this week.
Thought he was a must have at the start of the season but not so sure anymore.
Will hold another week.

hedski

Same, theyre saying he'll be back next week, can still field 19 this week (maybe).

Top Gun

He was my must have at the beginning of the season.

Randomcliche2

He was mine and then he busted his knee. Trade and save, just like old cars.

Andy

Greene or Wallis? Wallis is playing as a genuine midfielder but still not sure. What should i do?

Danners

Greene, you'd already have Macrae and Dahlhaus

Rooster XXX

Danners why does it matter if he already has Macrae & Dahl?
Totally irrelevant if he already has the two other Doggies fwds….

Dogs have had their bye already GWS haven't so straight way that is a tick for Wallis. If you think Wallis will outecore Greene for rest of 2017 then he is your man, regardless of what other Doggies players you have in fwd line…

The BONT

Welcome to the team Brad Ebert. What are peoples thourghts?

Stanks21

Good pick. Has been very consistent this year and will be around the 100 mark every week.

IntheNickofTime

Don't look back. Have been meaning to pick him up post-bye for a few weeks now.

whatyasmokin

Great pick, very tackle happy this year too.

Billioux

Got him last week.Happy

neil Demons Delight

yeah great move Bont trying to get him myself

Captain Feathersword

its *thoughts you pirate, yarrr yarrrr me hearty

Steeeve

I advised someone against this move last week and boy was I proved wrong. So if you want him then go for it. Just be aware his best season ever was an average of only 100. Every other year he has averaged below 100. Will he really finish the year averaging 110+ like we want from our premo mids?

Bottom

Kelly or Oliver?

Also need an forward upgrade option, thinking wingard/lynch/greene

Stanks21

Both great. But i would say Kelly. And Greene for the forward line

Defying_Madness

Oliver since he has had his bye. Lynch if you are struggling to field a team in round 13 otherwise Greene.

Bottom

Cheers lads, actually contemplating spending the bit more to get sloane over kelly now and i'll go with greene

Defying_Madness

You sure you want to do that considering they both have Round 13 byes. Make sure to double check how many you can field.

BoltonsBlues

paying 580k for Kelly, i wouldnt do it, the kid is a good player, but i dont think he has been hit with a hard tag yet, Curnow for my blues may just go to him this week.
You are paying just below max price right now

whatyasmokin

Never play with your heart. Play with mind and gut.

redherringfc

Who do people think will be the best player to get out of JPK and Hanners, from here on?

The stats tell me Hanners is better, but I've read a lot about JPK always finishing seasons off strongly. JPK is a fair bit cheaper, but it's my last midfield position, so I want the best option.

David C

I brought in Hanners this week, go the better player.

lok

so JPK.

redherringfc

I like the logic.

pod

I'd pick JPK only because he's cheaper, both guns.

Wedge

Yep you would do your head in trying to justify who is better. I would just trade in the cheaper option

Randomcliche2

From memory JPK has more high score records than Hanners….and that's why I have rocky on my bench as well…

Bells E Bubb

Would be McNice to see McNeice get another two games. Any chance?

whatyasmokin

Doubt it, but could be used for loopholing.

Randomcliche2

Mate he was soooooo tired when they rested him. They could be hit with GWS like injuries. Keep an eye on Barron's report.

Jambak

Who to get out of Greene, wallis, macrae, lynch?
Was going to go macrae but concerned with wallis in the side causing him to drop off a few points, thoughts?

whatyasmokin

Macrae, Greene, Lynch, Wallis in that order.

Lynch could be amazing value at 430K but being a KPP more risky.

Danners

Macrae/Lynch

He Man

Hey everyone,

First time posting as I'm a little bit stumped. I built up a bit of a war chest hoping to make some final upgrades to premium.

Def: Docherty, Laird, McDonald, Shaw, Rance, Stewart (Perryman, Scharenberg)

Mid: Dangerfield, Mitchell, Treloar, M Crouch, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Berry, Fisher, Bolton)

Ruck: Sandilands, Grundy

For: Macrae, Franklin, Nankervis, Lynch, Kennedy, Dahl (Greenwood, Parsons)

I've got $553.1k in the war chest and 15 trades.

Thanks heaps guys!

Kyle

Your mids are looking weak mate. Upgrade berry and swallow to premos. Then SPP at m8

Derek

Great War chest.

bang bang bang

Bont, JPK and cousins IN

JohndJames

Hi He Man I'd be looking at your mids,since that is the only line that needs work,Myers,Berry, Fisher and even Swallow need to go,I'd be doing two upgrades one dowgrade, getting in Pendles, Hanners and Cousins this week and be looking at Bont in a few weeks time.

#Pieinghigh

I would trade

Swallow > JPK
SPP / Myers > Bont
SPP / Myers > Cousins

Defence is weak as well.. You really only have 2 premos in Laird and Doch, McDonald, Rance and Shaw aren't in top 6 this year and have been overtaken by Roberton, Adams, Howe, Lloyd etc.

Defying_Madness

Thoughts on possible trades for this week community?
Here is my team: https://gyazo.com/5dfd51fe350d408ea7eabdb4a234876
Need to get rid of Sandi I think, however am short on cash to upgrade him. Am considering Kreuzer if I can find cash.
Cousins is an option, however I can currently only field 17 in Round 13, so bringing him in would worsen my situation. Could just accept the donut in Round 13 however I am playing for rank and currently at around 3k.
Really struggling to come up with any ideas and I also dislike that Barret or SPP will be on the bench this week.
Appreciate any advice in advance

whatyasmokin

Parsons out, Bolton forward and Cousins in.

Sandi for Kreuzer.

Defying_Madness

Then I end up with 2 playing rookies on the bench in the midfield. However this might be my best bet.

whatyasmokin

Still plenty for this round. What about round 13?

Defying_Madness

This round I have 19 or 20 depending on sandi I think and next round I have 17(this is before any trades).

Top Gun

Id sit pretty. Your cows aren't fat enough unless you want to go Stewart to a rookie and then Berry to Premo. Stewart will make a lot more $$$ though.

Defying_Madness

What would you do about the big Sandy

redherringfc

How about Sandi out, Nank to ruck and bring a forward in, Lynch maybe. Next week or week after bring in the best ruck you can and put Nank back up front.

Defying_Madness

I like that idea. Not a fan of Lynch though so am considering Greene or Wallis. Both have disadvantages though one has the bye soon the other would leave me with 3 Dogs players in the forward line.

David C

At this stage of the game whoever you bring in needs to be a keeper.

Defying_Madness

Greene and Wallis are keepers are they not?

Top Gun

The difference between the good sides (1000-5000 rank) and the great sides (inside 300) currently seems the better premos. I don't have Bont, Jelwood, Kelly or Dusty. instead I started with Fyfe, Treloar, JPKennedy, Danger and Neale. Picked up Oliver and Pendles on the way. Seemed like a good starting team at the time.

TOPHAWK1

That's what it basically comes down to Top Gun. The top 300 or so teams would have started with those premos you mentioned as well as having a stable ruck. Perhaps started with Martin and Sandi. I bet these teams also nailed all the early big $ rooks like Otten, Newman, WHE, Barrett, Marchbank etc. Nonetheless, if you are in the top 2500 or so at this time and perhaps no more than 1200 points off the lead, I reckon there is plenty of time to make a real run to the finish line. It requires sound bye planning, disciplined trading. (grabbing the relevant rooks at the right time, culling fattened rooks at the right time, and targeting the ultra premos when their price is not over inflated. Rational VC and E loopholing is crucial. After that, its just a bit of luck, avoiding too many injuries and seeing where the ride takes you!! Good luck mate.

Top Gun

One player to premo. This damn game requires skill and luck to win. 1120 rank but gonna be hard to win from here. Good luck to you too.

TigerNut

I started with Danger, Martin, Kelly and T Mitchell. Was pretty rapt with those selections

Top Gun

Be hitting you up at the start of next season Tiger.. lol

Derek

That has been the sad truth.

I have 5 out of the top 30 ranked players.

I stuck with the old guard and waited for Oliver, Kelly, Bont, Sloane, Neale, Merrett, Yeo, Zorko and Robertson to crash and burn.

Having said that, there are always plenty of risky picks that don't work as well.

I still think some of the old guard will redeem themselves, especially the hard nuts when the season starts to take its toll. Those up front without trades and not able to jump off an early season gun will quickly slip away.

Top Gun

Agreed Derek. Wasn't sure about Kelly….Sloane ranger has taken it to a new level. Simple fact you back yourself. I like many judges look at how a player finishes the last 10 rounds to get a snapshot of their ability next season. Endurance will see the likes of JPK, Jelwood, Pendles, etc as you said to deliver.

SCaddict

That's not necessarily true. I don't have Jelwood, Kelly or Dusty either yet have been steadily climbing the rankings now ranked 318th overall. Avoiding a lot of the disasters like Shaw, Parker and NRoo is probably just as important as having the guys scoring gangbusters to your ranking and league performances.

Also getting your midpricers and rookies more right than wrong makes a major contribution to how successful your season ends up being. A lot of coaches were hurt early in the season by starting too many spud rookies on their field. Then there is your bye navigation performance. So there are a lot of factors at play.

Top Gun

True Scaddict and well done on your ranking but commonalities exist between the top sides as I have been looking at their sides. They seem to have all the 'right' mids. We know players can have a purple patch; let's hope some of the old brigade bring their A game for the remainder of the season. And yes their is so much more than just good mids. Byes usual sort the SC players out who struggle.

Derek

Nice going Addict

neil Demons Delight

get them in and who knows great effort son

DacZawson

After the one week where he goes huge, I'll just assume that it was coincidence that you bring it up now and not 3 weeks ago

Swanny

Priddas and Myers for cousins and Bont sound like a good idea

whatyasmokin