SuperCoach RD11: The Heroes, The Villains, The Damned.

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One down, two to go.

The first of the proper bye rounds has come and gone. Most of us survived, but only just.

Poor returns from the majority of our on-field rookies impacted scoring heavily, as did the late withdrawal of Aaron Sandilands, but this was offset by some terrific outings by the likes of Kelly, Martin, Dangerfield and Selwood.

About 1700 was a par score, with those scoring north of this enjoying an increase in overall rank.

The Heroes

The numbers Josh Kelly (176 SC) produced in his demolition job of Essendon were outstanding. Very few players have the tank to go with this bloke – his gut running is phenomenal. Kelly racked up 38 disposals, 10 tackles, 14 contested possessions, 1 goal and seven clearances, all at 86% efficiency. After 11 rounds he’s averaging 114.1 and hasn’t dropped below 90 once. His consistency is exceptional.

Charlie Dixon (167 SC) is an enigma, but maybe Port have finally cracked the code on how to unleash his full potential. Dixon played a blinder on Thursday night, with 14 of his 20 disposals contested to go along with four goals, six tackles and eight marks. But keep in mind, if you opt to take the plunge and trade the spearhead into your side, get set for a rollarcoaster. Like most key forwards, Charlie has enjoyed some stunning highs and agonising lows in 2017. Three scores over 130 have been offset somewhat by four scores under 80.

The legend of Dustin Martin (165 SC) continues to grow. Dusty was unbelievably good on Saturday night, amassing 38 disposals (15 contested), 8 marks, 6 tackles, 9 clearances and 2.1. The quality outing pushed his average up to 117.9 and he looks set to challenge for the mantle as the game’s number one midfielder.

Once again, the Joel Selwood (151 SC) and Patrick Dangerfield (149 SC) combination united to almost singlehandedly drag Geelong over the line. The pair had 66 disposals, 40 contested possessions, 4 goals, 16 clearances and 11 tackles between them. Sidekick Scott Selwood (101 SC) registered his third ton in a row, complete with another decent haul of 10 tackles, and rewarding those who traded him in.

Zac Williams (146 SC) has now officially taken over from Heath Shaw as the Giants’ number 1 attacking defender. Running off half back, he booted 3.1 and had 12 contested possessions, 7 tackles and 4 clearances. The score pushed his average up to 100 and he must now be considered a genuine top 6 defensive candidate.

Brad Ebert (141 SC) has flown under the radar in 2017. He loves the hard stuff and his fine inside work has seen him averaging 111.7 in a career-best season. While he’s never been known for high efficiency, he currently sits third in the competition for tackles, which helps boost his totals. With a lowest score of 89 and 7 tons in 10 games, he shapes as an excellent POD.  

Tigers pair Bacher Houli (137 SC) and Trent Cotchin (129 SC) continued their exceptional form, while it’s been a remarkable resurgence from Adam Treloar (128 SC), who is averaging 131 since returning from an ankle injury three rounds ago.

The Villains

Rory Laird (59 SC) copped a head knock early in the match against Geelong and didn’t seem himself for the rest of the game, while Matt Priddis (81 SC) has been mediocre the past 3 weeks, contributing returns of 73, 81 and 82.

Fantasy-relevant RUC/FWD pick Toby Nankervis (82 SC) is enduring a rough patch after a bright start to the season, averaging just 83.6 in his past five matches, while fellow ruck beast Shane Mumford (78 SC), has been a little better despite his poor return on the weekend, averaging 96 during the same period. Popular defensive options Zach Touhy (76 SC) and Alex Rance (62 SC) were not able to capitalise on Geelong and Richmond’s convincing wins.

Welcome back, Shaun Higgins (64 SC), we’ve missed you. It was always going to be a matter of time before you returned. Higgo enjoys spending his time swapping in between the sections of this article, knocking up three nice scores of 120+ so far in 2017, but also four scores below 80.

The Redeemers

Since his double ton four weeks ago, Gary Ablett (139 SC) had endured a lean run which included a pair of 80s as well as missing a match with that bung shoulder of his. But he was back in a big way against the Eagles, compiling a precise 36 touches, 16 of them contested, to go with 6 clearances, all at 83% efficiency.

Heath Shaw (99 SC) finally found a bit of form and his owners will be hoping he is bale to maintain this level for the rest of the season.

The Prodigies

In a week where we were forced to play every rookie on our field, the young guns unfortunately produced an absolute crap-fest. Only Will Hoskin-Elliott (91 SC), Tim Taranto (82 SC), Tom Stewart (73 SC) and Huge Greenwood (72 SC) cracked over 60.

James Parsons (56 SC), Andrew McGrath (55 SC), Dan Butler (54 SC), Ed Vickers-Willis (50 SC), David Meyers (46 SC), Shai Bolton (45 SC), Harry Perryman (42 SC), Andy Otten (36 SC), James Stewart (35 SC) and Daniel Lloyd (31 SC) were all pretty ordinary.

James Cousins (56 SC) looks one of the best options on the bubble if you don’t already have him, while team-mate Dallas Willsmore (46 SC) and Gold Coast’s Will Brodie (32 SC) also played their second games. Defensive bubble boy Matt Scharenberg (46 SC) will only get better with each match, while Freo first-gamer Luke Ryan (37 SC) didn’t get a huge amount of the ball on debut.

The Damned

If ever there was a genius master of hindsight coach, it was the one who did not start with Nat Fyfe (104 SC). He’s dropped nearly 100K from his starting price and his score on the weekend was his first ton in the past six matches. The rule of thumb is never sideways a premo, but it’s starting to get to the point where those with trades up their sleeve could be considering a luxury sideways swap if Nathanial doesn’t start to pull his finger out.

Touk Miller (67 SC) has proved to be your classic trap in 2017. The dreaded “more midfield time” slogan was bandied about in the pre season, but unfortunately for his owners it just hasn’t come to fruition. He’s averaging a paltry 78 so far this season, reaching triple figures just twice.


How did you go this week?

 Twitter: @CarlPfeiffer9


Jimbob · 05/06/2017 at 13:03

Didn't see Z Williams in defensive 50 at all

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 13:21

    Didn't see an opponent on him either

    manolaki · 06/06/2017 at 11:55

    He won't score three goals every week or play the Bombers every week

      Barrel · 06/06/2017 at 13:30

      Still easily top six. 4 tons, 5 scores in the 90s – only twice scored below 85. Already performing at much high level than last year.

Jim · 05/06/2017 at 13:11

Otten was one massive villian.. Not sure who to give the boot to this week; Marchbank or Otten (Got 118k to spend on)

Fraser McInnnes? Is he done? Any point keeping him?

Where is Brett Eddy surely Hinkley would come to his senses cause he's been lighting it up from goal for days now

    SC_Kev7 · 05/06/2017 at 13:26

    As Marchbank has already had his bye I'd go with Otten

    Yeah, he's done. Lycett is just about ready to go isn't he? His JS was very shaky to begin with.

    Who would you drop to get him in, Jim?

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 13:27

    McInness went back on the rookie list. He's done. Port got rid of their injury list as it wasn't being used. And with that went Brett Eddy's chance of a game. The only player they are missing is The Chad. And he's due back shortly

    joe · 05/06/2017 at 15:59

    Eddy and McInnes are both done … and I bought both of them.

    McInnes will not see playing time unless Petrie and Lycett get hurt again. Even if Eddy were still on the senior list, he's behind Monfries in the pecking order. Time to dump them both when possible.

      Ethan · 05/06/2017 at 16:28

      they don't quite play the same role in the team monfries and eddy

      Jim · 05/06/2017 at 20:59

      Dropping Mcinnes for Scharenberg this week

    manolaki · 06/06/2017 at 11:56

    Otten has to go with bye coming up.

    McInnes won't play this year again unless Eagles have a few injuries.

    I got rid of Eddy last week. Not sure what he needs to do to get a game but he obviously isn't doing enough

      Defying_Madness · 06/06/2017 at 12:19

      Breaking his teamates legs would be a start

MickyB · 05/06/2017 at 13:12

Who do we think will end up being the top 6 defenders and forwards by the end of the season?

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 16:56

      lok · 05/06/2017 at 21:31

      that doesn't mean much.

        whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 21:49

        Neither do people's guesses.

    TheScacman · 05/06/2017 at 21:30

    No order

    Backs Docherty, Adams, Laird, Roberton and two of Williams, Rance, Hurley or Tuohy.

    Forwards Yeo-yo, Kennedy, Franklin, Macrae, Lynch, Cameron/Dixon/Dahlhaus

      lok · 05/06/2017 at 21:31


      Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 21:36

      I don't think Franklin will finish top 6 this year.

    manolaki · 06/06/2017 at 11:59

    Your guess is as good as mine.

    I think Laird Doc Adams Hibberd Lloyd and maybe Robertson or Williams.

    Forward other than Yeo Dahl and McCrae I can't pick them. I am not a fan of key forwards. I have Nank and Steele still so I am hoping they improve to 100 avg and become keepers

SC_Kev7 · 05/06/2017 at 13:15

Only the most trigger happy coach would trade out Fyfe now. He's bottomed out and a bit banged up. His round 13 bye will do him good.

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 13:22

    Agree Kev. Get to full premo & if you have 8+ trades consider it. But injuries will come & so will regret

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/06/2017 at 17:24

    Fyfe to dusty Rd 13
    Hmmmm trigger finger poised 🙂

      Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 17:26

      I have my trigger finger on Fyfe to Jelwood/ Martin also, if he plays shit this weekend he is gone.

    manolaki · 06/06/2017 at 12:01

    Agree. Keep until your team is full and assess. I hope Fyfe and Shaw average 110 for the rest of the season and prove the haters wrong

H Lee · 05/06/2017 at 13:19

who is the best trade in option for sandi out of Lynch (GCS), Franklin, dixon or grundy

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 16:56

    Lynch and Franklin.

Winter · 05/06/2017 at 13:20

SPP to the Bont or wait a week?
I do need to win this week against a tough opponent though

    Ben · 05/06/2017 at 14:52

    Wait a week is the way to go in terms of $.. SPP should go up and Bont should come down.

    manolaki · 06/06/2017 at 12:02

    You could go SPP to JPK. Still very low and great scoring potential

      Defying_Madness · 06/06/2017 at 12:14

      I like this better. Wallis may have had an impact on a few dogs players including Bont. Wait to see him go big again first.

      Winter · 06/06/2017 at 17:22

      Already got JPK mate, started with the beast

INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 13:29

Nice Carl. I think Otten deserved a run in the Villians or Damned. Or perhaps the useless Carrot section. Can't wait to p*ss him off

    Soothsayer · 06/06/2017 at 13:40

    And then he bangs out a 121!!! It seems that his score is role dependent.

HallyMate · 05/06/2017 at 13:32

Trading Priddis in over Dusty 3 weeks ago has to be one of the worst decisions I've ever made, wanting to offload him to Zorko this week. Thoughts?

    jez_m · 05/06/2017 at 13:40

    I think we've seen the last of Priddis as a Supercoach player unfortunately. West Coast do play some home games after their bye though so if you can hold him for a bit longer and work on getting the rest of your team finalised, I'd probably do that.

      Derek · 05/06/2017 at 14:48

      4 out of 5 games after bye are at home.

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 13:45

    Lycett due back shortly. He's ben lacking a decent Ruck tapping it to him. I'd wait to see if that changes things

    Dice · 05/06/2017 at 14:08

    Yeah Hally, had him all year and he's been disappointing. Lost $115,000 since round 1 – come at me Tom Rockliff

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 14:35

    I like the Zorko trade. lots of upside

    pod · 05/06/2017 at 14:57

    If Rocky returns Zorko scoring might fall.

      INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 15:04

      Rocky & Zorko have pigged out together before. Many times

    Sana · 05/06/2017 at 16:20

    I've got him too mate. Makes Fyfe owners look lucky. I'm gonna hold him til I'm full premo, then if im still trade rich I'll ditch him if he hasn't improved

      Daniel Z · 06/06/2017 at 06:13

      I started with fyfe and priddis. It's been that kind of year.

        whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:39

        Both could come home really strong, only just halfway through the season and they are still fit and on the ground every week.

    Wedge · 06/06/2017 at 11:22

    Go on footywire and have a look at priddis sc breakdown for the year. It'll make you feel a bit more confident that he can still pump out decent scores. Three in a row last year rnd 5-8 I think about 80 or 70 average scored and then pretty much tons for the rest of the season.

jez_m · 05/06/2017 at 13:39

Thoughts on these three trades?

Hampton to Scharenberg
Eddy to Cousins (via Bolton DPP)
Taranto to Wines (via Greenwood DPP – I reckon Wines is a good pickup for less than $500K)

That leaves me with a complete midfield (Titch, Danger, J. Selwood, Bont, JPK, Fyfe, Treloar, Wines + SPP on my bench) and Gives me $115K to get Jake Lloyd next week for Otten.

    pod · 05/06/2017 at 14:03

    Nice trades jez, Wines is excellent value.

    Derek · 05/06/2017 at 14:52

    I would think about trading out SPP instead of Eddy.

    Have a heap more cash

    If you are full premium midfield having SPP cash on bench is a waste. He isn't DPP so you can use him.

    Plus you keep your DPP player in your midfield to swing with.

      jez_m · 05/06/2017 at 15:35

      I did think about that Derek, but without SPP I don't have 18 players for round 13. I'm hoping Callum Brown from Collingwood or another mid rookie gets a run this week so I can trade SPP after round 13. Also have Stewart or EVW to trade down to Luke Ryan soon too hopefully.

        Derek · 05/06/2017 at 17:18

        fair enough. I'm keeping SPP until after round 13 for same reason.

        Even if you have to trade him down to a non-playing DPP rookie (have a decent bench cover for forward line) and swing Dahl or macCrea into mids if you need. can't have that much cash on bench if they arn't a DPP

          jez_ · 05/06/2017 at 17:37

          Great minds think alike, Derek! I've had to move my DPP's forward (Greenwood and Bolton) for trades and to make sure I can field as many players as possible. I've got SPP, Myers, Cousins, Parsons, Bolton and Greenwood as my midfield and forward rookies at the moment. One of those DPP's will end up back in my mids at some point though

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 16:58

    Wines averages 100 every year, reasonable value.

    manolaki · 06/06/2017 at 13:49

    Looks good.
    Wines is great value.
    The other bloke is right though you can generate more cash from SPP or make a shorter jump

Hoot · 05/06/2017 at 13:46

I need a Fwd rookie to help me generate cash.

Any good options?

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 14:16

    On the bubble nope. But Jay Kennedy Harris had an astonishing 47 touches & 8 tackles on the weekend. 162k with a BE of 30. That's a desperate option. With the Pies injuries the door is open for Callum Brown 117k Mid/Fwd & Kayle Kirby 117k to get a crack

      Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 16:58

      Why does every new rookie have to have the round 13 bye. I might even have to consider Brodie from GC at this point

      Rocksta · 05/06/2017 at 18:25

      I reckon Callum Brown is a shoe in to debut this week.
      Hopefully he goes alright and we can bring him in for Parsons in a few weeks.

      Stirlsy · 05/06/2017 at 19:30

      Bring on Fatso 6 in the magoo's but i hope they keep him on ice till next year…

      neil Demons Delight · 05/06/2017 at 20:10

      Boltons got his eye on jkh wouldn't touch him personally but if desperate Brown might be better had him in my first team cheers

    joe · 05/06/2017 at 16:23

    There are none unless you haven't already got Greenwood.

      IRRELEVANT · 05/06/2017 at 16:49

      Unless you have any MID rookies (Greenwood) in MID and swing them FWD to get James Cousins (HAW).

Mike · 05/06/2017 at 13:54

Should I trade Macrae into my side this week which will get me a step closer to a full premo side or do I wait a week for him to drop in price a bit? Just means I might not be able to use the 3 trades next week for as many upgrades… HELP!?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/06/2017 at 14:32

    No sure why the rush to get to full premo by Rd 13 unless going for overall?
    Be nice but with the majority of rookie crap just not gonna happen.
    Gotta squeeze every cent of your rooks and pounce on fallen premo at their bottom price.
    As mccrae has a high b/e and Barrett a low b/E will do that trade to 13 maybe even Rd 14. Should be at least $60k better off.
    So I'd wait.

      Mike · 05/06/2017 at 14:42

      Great cheers for the help mate!

    joe · 05/06/2017 at 16:24

    Well,he will probably go down by about $10,000 next week. Is that more important than getting his points? Up to you.

Tim · 05/06/2017 at 14:26

Wallis or Tom Lynch?
Bringing in Wallis means i have 3 doggie fwds (4 in total)

    jez_m · 05/06/2017 at 14:31

    Lynch for mine

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 16:59


    neil Demons Delight · 05/06/2017 at 20:13

    I have both but think wallis will go big

BrownlowBoy · 05/06/2017 at 14:34

Trade or hold Gunston?

    jez_m · 05/06/2017 at 14:46

    He served me well last year, but I'm glad I didn't start with him this year. I'd probably trade. Hawks play GCS, Adel, Coll, GWS and Geelong in their next 5 games and I doubt the ball will be in the forward line much for at least three of those games which doesn't bode well for his scoring.

      BrownlowBoy · 05/06/2017 at 14:48

      He needs his own category, he's actual garbage.

        jez_m · 05/06/2017 at 15:38

        Yeah he's really struggled this year. As a Hawks fan it's pretty obvious he needs a good team around him to perform from a SC point of view and Hawthorn don't have that at the moment

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 15:05

    That's one premo I would dismiss ASAP

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/06/2017 at 15:07

      Historical only.

        INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 16:21

        Yep Trig. Premo turned Mid Procer

    Danners · 05/06/2017 at 19:06

    If you have plenty of trades, maybe use him as F7, otherwise wield the axe

Nate · 05/06/2017 at 14:38

Hey guys, built up a war chest for upgrading this round and next. Definitely going to bring in a premo forward for Eddy or Parsons.

Laird, Adams, Rance, Lloyd, Newman, Stewart (Sharenburg, Hibberd)
Danger, Pendlebury, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Wines, SPP, Barrett (Berry, Fisher, Myers)
Grundy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahl, Macrae, Nank, Petracca, Greenwood, Parsons (Bolton, Eddy)

750k in the bank. 17 trades left.
Any suggestions guys? Thanks

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 14:47

    Docherty is missing from your defence. would make him a priority, regardless of price

      Nate · 05/06/2017 at 15:34

      Cheers Crazee. Was thinking maybe Parsons/Eddy to Franklin and Newman to Doch. Definitely wanting to bring in Doc and Hibberd (Melb) this week too!

        KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 16:11

        I'd take a punt on Buddy if I didn't already have him. nearly averaging 96 currently in a team that's under performed. I think Swans will win a decent amount of games coming home and push for finals, and Buddy will be in the thick of it.

        (go Swans)

        Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 17:00

        I think Heeney over Franklin is a better option

          whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:11

          Nah, Franklin proven.

            Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 17:14

            He also has 6 games under 85

              whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:18

              He's also played 10 games though. Franklin cheaper than Heeney and ok BE. No doubt Heeney is a gun.

                Nate · 05/06/2017 at 18:02

                cheers guys. Im thinking Franklin myself though. Would love to get Yeo but feel safer picking up Buddy this week instead of Yeo next week

    jez_m · 05/06/2017 at 15:46

    If you can field 18 players for for Round 13 (and you can afford it), I'd go Stewart to Docherty, Sandi to Martin and SPP to Bont

    Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 18:35

    Parsons to Dixon, SPP to Dusty or Kelly, Newman to Doch. Welcome

KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 14:38

Considering Sandi to Kreuzer. Probably won't make the trip to Brisbane this week, then the bye. Also barely cracks 100 when he gets there. Annoying

    Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 17:01

    Highly considering this move also. Only problem is I have to make another trade to get this done.

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:02

    Kreuzer could end up top ruck

    Swans2012 · 05/06/2017 at 19:18

    This is what I'm thinking Krazee, kreuzer has often threatened to live up to his potential, could this be the year? If sandi is out this week I'm thinking I'll do it…Now don't mention it again……#shhhhhhh

    A. Sandilands · 06/06/2017 at 02:10

    There's no way I'm risking squeezing myself into the cab to the airport let alone 4 hours in a plane i can't even stand full height in. Trade me, grab someone else, I've served my purpose this year and am happy to finish with a low 90 average from here.

      Bells · 06/06/2017 at 08:21

      I reckon you go large post bye with 100 plus average. Holding.

        whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:38

        Dont want him to hurt that hammy mid game after all the good scores and profit hes provided. Glad i dumped him before the so called one week off.

      randomcliche · 06/06/2017 at 13:20

      Heya big fella, thanks for the update….but where were you last week? Your team mate Dac Zawson is on here all the time when we need an update on his long-term and short-term prospects… Follow his lead, an exemplary AFL player and community member!

    manolaki · 06/06/2017 at 14:14

    Sandi to end up top 3-4 ruckman. Statement!

      Randomcliche2 · 06/06/2017 at 20:08

      He is mince meat if he doesn't play this week. Gives a 50 to 100 point head start on all non rnd 13 bye rucks from here on out. And it bigger if you are faced with a donut.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/06/2017 at 14:38

Good one Carl.
Some monster scores helped hide the rookie crap
Nank will love a well earned rest this week
apparently rance going good camping with the tiger cubs – insert recipe for disaster.
Not much on the rookie horizon just more ah well picks.
Shaz and Ryan struggled with tempo of afl yesterday.
Gee don't know on shaz but not a great deal else.

BoltonsBlues · 05/06/2017 at 14:46

If Sandi isnt fit this week are we culling?
I dont think he will be, 1 more week, then the bye, Freo want finals and im thinking they will rest him again this week.
thinking doing
Sandi > Cousins
Stewart > Franklin
leaves me 212k and 20 players and 17 players the next 2 weeks. enough coin to upgrade Newman after the byes and SPP/Barret, then only one more rookie on the field (Greenwood) 10 trades left

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/06/2017 at 15:04

    Hey bolts looks like u have some serious DPP action going there.

    Assume Nank into the ruck?

      BoltonsBlues · 05/06/2017 at 15:30

      Yeah im DPP happy at the moment, only swing i dont have is FWD/DEF
      Sandi out > Nank ruck > Greenwood FWD > Cousins MID, ill lose FWD/MID swing this week, but will get it back when i trade SPP/Barret and move Greenwood back to the MID

    Mike · 05/06/2017 at 15:04

    Yeah no way he is flying all the way to Brizzy with a tight hammy. If he pings one then he could be out for months so it would be foolish for Freo to play him in a game they should win comfortably anyway. So we won't see him until after his bye now.

ProTravo · 05/06/2017 at 14:48

Josh Kelly was just beautiful to watch on the weekend. Supercoach lock for many years to come me thinks.
Reminds me of Judd with his aerobic capacity and ability to burst out of stoppages and also reminds me of Pendles the way he uses the ball. Simply majestic.

    gator59 · 05/06/2017 at 15:01

    Absolute gun… Gunnar look good in saints colours next year

      ProTravo · 05/06/2017 at 15:03

      I wish Hawks used the 2 first round picks to get him last year instead of the cripple O'meara.
      Would look good in any colours.

        Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 17:02

        I still think we (Hawthorn) might be aiming to get him. Expect an offload of players at the end of the year so salary shouldn't be a problem.

          Derek · 05/06/2017 at 17:13

          Tyrone must still be worth something 😉

          Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 18:38

          Offload O'Meara, Tyrone, Gibson, Hodge, Burgoyne and then get Kelly. Lol.

      redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 19:01

      Is this alongside Fyfe? I'll look forward to that.

        gator59 · 05/06/2017 at 21:05

        and may

          Bells · 06/06/2017 at 08:24

          He's going to the Swans.

    lok · 05/06/2017 at 18:50

    Great player.. had him in supercoach every year. Once he learns the full ropes of the inside game, then he can be compared to the likes of Danger, Sloane etc..

      ProTravo · 06/06/2017 at 11:08

      He will never be the inside player like a Danger or Sloane . . . just like they will never have his disposal efficiency. Still he wins a lot of contested ball and has a higher tackle count this season than Danger, Selwood Dusty ect. Ranked 17th in the comp.

    joe · 06/06/2017 at 11:34

    Am I the only person not sold on Kelly yet? He looks undersized for a dominant mid (and, at 22, should have built up his physique by now).

    I'm not saying he ain't good. I just don't quite see an A+ in him yet. I look at him and see Bryce Gibbs, not Dangerfield.

Ben · 05/06/2017 at 14:49

Tough decision on which defender to bring in this week.
My current premos are Adams, Laird, Simpson (and maybe Newman).
Some good value options in Hibberd, Roberton, maybe even Shaw who has bottomed out.
Lloyd will come into my team in 2 weeks time.
Docherty I'm hoping might have a bad game at some point so I can get him cheaper but has been very consistent.

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:05

    By the time you get Docherty it will be 3/4 through the season, so what is the point?

David · 05/06/2017 at 15:00

Personally Rossy and Sandilands were in the heroes column for mine. Must have jumped about 1000 rankings spot on his late out alone. So many coaches were banking on his ton to save their miserable round but they were snacking on a big fat donut instead which was a thing of beauty to behold! 🙂

Ben · 05/06/2017 at 15:00

Should I bother trading in any top forwards (heeny, franklin or macrae) this week or wait. They all seem quite possible to drop in price after this round and my rookies (bolton, greenwood and parsons) all could make cash.
Still got ainsworth in mid so should i maybe trade him out for one of the three forwards and put bolton or parsons on the bench in mid?

    DacZawson · 05/06/2017 at 15:41

    Read on the AFL website that Ainsworth is almost back to full fitness, I'd do some more research about his possibility of getting a game before culling him

#Pieinghigh · 05/06/2017 at 15:23

Need a number 1 forward to complete my forward line.
Current forward line is: Frankling, Steele, Higgins, Ryder, Heeney, Taranto

Option 1. Taranto > Dahlhaus 478k (Rd 12)
Option 2. Taranto > Yeo 515k (Rd 12)
Option 3 Taranto > Wallis 473k (This round).

Thoughts community?

    SC_Kev7 · 05/06/2017 at 15:55


    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:06


    Derek · 05/06/2017 at 17:11


    Lazza · 05/06/2017 at 18:56

    You need 4 players to complete your fwd line

      Daniel Z · 06/06/2017 at 06:34

      I was thinking three.

      #Pieinghigh · 06/06/2017 at 12:00

      Have gone
      Sandilands > Dahlhaus (via Ryder)
      Next week will go Taranto > Yeo.

      This will make my final team:
      Adams, Laird, Roberton, Hibberd, Shaw, Stewart (to be turned into Lloyd in 2 weeks)
      Danger, Mitchell, Pendles, J Selwood, Fyfe, Treloar, Hanneberry, Greenwood* (*Pending Barrett Upgrade in 2 weeks to fallen premo)
      S Martin, Ryder
      Yeo, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Steele, Heeney, Higgins

      I am fine having Heeney at F5 and Higgins at F6. The only other one I would consider upgrading would be Steele but it is not a high priority.

    Dean · 05/06/2017 at 19:29

    Thats a pretty weak forward if its going to be your final 6 – Not having any of what look to be the top 6 defenders such as: Yeo, Macare, Dixon, Dahlhaus, Nank, Green and even Wallis is looking like a must have.
    Wallis is currently the #1 forward based on averages as he is on 110 and Yeo on 107 – However Wallis has only played the two games so his average will drop, but he looks bloody awesome considering he's been out for a year.

    Bring in Dahlhaus seeing he has had his bye.

      whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 20:48

      Can't call Wallis a must have based on two rounds.

    Max · 05/06/2017 at 20:50


ProTravo · 05/06/2017 at 15:27

Anyone considering Mitch Wallis as a POD? Not many great premo options up fwd and consistency can be an issue with key forwards.

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 16:07

    why not? I like it

    Cold_Case · 05/06/2017 at 16:31

    Looks pretty good. He has averaged mid 80s to 90s last couple of years which includes some low injury affected scores. Be ready for some 130s and 80s in his scoring. What forward this year is any different though.

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:15

    Nah. Hasn't even played more than 19 games in a season. Only averaged 100 once out of about 7 years.

    Will · 05/06/2017 at 17:18

    Im bringing him in this week.

    Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 18:51

    I sense a trap!

Dalvin · 05/06/2017 at 15:28

Full premium his week (with jack steele).

Thoughts on getting buddy at F7 to purely have him as a loophole with picket (non playing) for when he does have his big scores?

E.g When buddy goes big, take his score over Steele, when he goes under 75, put Steele on field.


I've got 11 trades left and playing for overall rank

    SC_Kev7 · 05/06/2017 at 15:54

    Fantastic move

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 16:30

    Full Premo with Buddy as a spare & 11 trades. Great effort. Please post your team

      Derek · 05/06/2017 at 17:10

      im jealous

      Dalvin · 05/06/2017 at 17:10

      I'll have 9 trades if I do the buddy move next week, 11 at the moment:

      Docherty, laird, roberton, shaw, Hibberd (Stewart, ryan)

      Bont, Mitchell, danger, Sloane, treolor, dusty, Fyfe, Selwood (cousins, Maynard, greenwood)

      Witts, sandi (strnadica)

      Dahlhaus, yeo, nank, Steele, Wallis, heeney (Pickett, parsons)

        Dalvin · 05/06/2017 at 17:14

        And Adams also in defence

          INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 17:40

          Very solid. Great effort. And yep I like the Buddy loop strategy. He can go massive. Steele will give you solid scores 80-115. if you can fund it you should consider turning Stewart into Lloyd & looping him with Shaw

            Dalvin · 05/06/2017 at 17:49

            Great idea Pieman.. I wasn't sure about it as the defence are more solid and reliable than the forwards this year but still worth t I guess.

            That could take me to 7 trades.. do you think that's too low with 6-7 rounds leftmost just before finals?

              INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 18:16

              If you trade Barrett to Mitch Hibberd you can use Lloyd as DPP cover as well. You can cover your midfield from both Fwd & Defence. That would also save you short term injury trades. You have Nank covering your Ruck line as well. Literally all bases covered & only need to trade for long term injuries

                Dalvin · 05/06/2017 at 18:24

                awesome, great idea indeed!

                Thanks for the advice 🙂

                  INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 18:34

                  No worries. If you win the 50k sling some this way

                Northerner · 05/06/2017 at 21:06

                Consider Oscar Junker over Hibberd that will save you extra $21k as an option.

          Randomcliche2 · 05/06/2017 at 23:13

          Beautiful team, well done. I'm 22 keeper this week, but we'll short of your 22. I'm running Sandi witts as well. And will be looking to add Gawn for a real full premo because once he's back I think you'll just want him. And yes I'm aiming for 24 premos as well with the same swing cover as pieman described. Great work bud.

        Lazza · 05/06/2017 at 19:01

        You don't have full premo with those rucks and Shaw. Still 3 short. Possibly 4 with Nankervis dropping off.

        Lazza · 05/06/2017 at 19:22

        So with 11 trades left to start this round means you max-traded every round.. interested to see your starting squad …

          whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 20:47

          No it doesn't. All except one round.

        Dean · 05/06/2017 at 19:32

        Is your Selwood Joel or Scott?

      neil Demons Delight · 05/06/2017 at 20:17

      yeah I would like to see that seems too good but congratulations my friend

    Dean · 05/06/2017 at 19:43

    I think that's a crazy move.
    Save the trade and if one of your forwards does end up injured or suspended then trade Buddy or who ever in, what happens if Buddy end's up injured. Not to mention it's not like he's B/E is 50 or low, its at 105, which is higher than his average.

    Saving the trades could be the difference from finishing top 10 to top 5000 – We are only half way through the season and with 9 trades left I guarantee you'll struggle to finish in the top 1000

    Derek · 05/06/2017 at 20:18


    Do the fancy luxury trades once you have a full premium team.

    BlueNath · 05/06/2017 at 21:20

    Not to mention that you could only loophole buddy if Pickett/Carton were playing AFTER Sydney too. (Same as VW scenario suggested etc). Loopholing isn't always possible

Tommo09 · 05/06/2017 at 15:28

Thoughts on my team and my trades this week?
I am a bit lost on what to do

Def: Adams, Laird, Simpson, Hibberd, TUOHY, Newman (STEWART, HIBBERD)
Mid: TMitch, DANGER, SELWOOD, Bont, Pendles, Kennedy, Fyfe, SELWOOD (Barrett, Myers, Greenwood)
Ruc: Mumford, Sandi (Strnadica)
Fwd: Heeney, Steele, NANK, Lynch (GCS), Hannan, Parsons (Bolton, Eddy)

Want to get in Dahl and Cousins in this week and Docherty in the next couple but don't know who to trade

Thanks community

    Nate · 05/06/2017 at 15:41

    Hey Tommo. I'm looking to bring Doc in too mate either this week or next. How much cash do you have for upgrades mate?

    Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 16:34

    You got Newman Stewart barret all ripe for the culling don't get to attached to any of them, surely you flipping greenwood in forward and put parsons on the bench, I went parsons up to lynch this week so glad to have the flog off my field

      DavidSA · 05/06/2017 at 17:00

      Yeah even though Stewart still has low BE I have to look at moving him on too for me to get to full premo this round

        Tommo09 · 05/06/2017 at 18:46

        Better to go Docherty or Dahl this round
        Leaning towards Dahl as he is cheaper and hopefully Doch drops a bit in the next few weeks
        If Docherty, do I trade Stewart or Newman?
        And Myers or Barrett to Cousins?

          Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:02

          Newman. Stewart BE is low, Newmans at 81

    Tommo09 · 05/06/2017 at 18:39

    Sorry have 14 trades and $241k left

Jim_bob321 · 05/06/2017 at 15:52

What do u guys think…
EVW (BE of roughly 58) to Mitch Wallis?

    Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 16:31

    If you think he will be top 6 then go for it, personally have never considered him for SuperCoach

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 16:33

    Sounds good to me

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:08

    Not convinced with Wallis.

    Mike · 05/06/2017 at 18:50

    Has never been much of s Supercoach scorer. Just like Harbrow a few weeks ago I reckon he'll suck in plenty only to start pumping out 80s-90s.

Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 16:30

Thoughts on Fyffe down to wines? Helps out for byes saves some crutial coin. Wines looking like ports number 1 mid and they are a solid side, Fyffe doesn't look like he gives a toss, young blakely stepping up to take his place he is actually worth more than Fyfe at the moment I think! Just curious on everyone's thoughts

    DavidSA · 05/06/2017 at 16:58

    Think his injuries may have reduced his potential much?
    He is not running out games like he used to

      Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 17:12

      The week for me to go on wines is now will be a bit of a risky move if I do it, kinda just want someone to talk me into it haha! Will be full premo after this week bar tom Stewart who will need to go up to docherty after that is done I'll have 7 trades left at full premo

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:09

    If you want a burn man go for it.

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:10

    Fyfe is season ranked at 23 out of all players, really not that bad. One big score and he'll be right up there.

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:14

    lol you're saving 14K? Surely you're trolling here?

      Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 17:24

      money is tight this year lads XD
      Yeah look probably shouldn't do it
      Fyfe is ranked 1st for clangers
      with 5 a game and only averaging 26 disposals needs to pull his finger out

        whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 18:06

        He could come home strong though, I'd wait till later in the season for such a luxury trade.

          Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 18:23

          yeah true thanks for talking sense into me lads

    Stirlsy · 05/06/2017 at 17:42

    Fyfe put to much of a preseason in, he was training long b4 the last season finished and his body shape and size has slowed him down because of it, but not giving a toss gee Sam dont know what you've been watching but i see the guy play every week and he is busting his guts to get to contests.
    He will be much better next year just wait and see.

      INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 17:47

      Great insight Stirlsy. He's not as sleek as he was. A bit top heavy

        Stirlsy · 05/06/2017 at 18:07

        Spot on Pieman He was even heavier early in season i think they are trying to lighten him off up top as the season goes, Should start with the man bun….. but yes was very easy to see he was the wrong body shape early in the season they might of wanted him like that other players have been through this and got it wrong but returned the year after back to their best.
        He is at least a yard slower because of it.

          neil Demons Delight · 05/06/2017 at 20:23

          Goodwin will fix him up when he lobs but will he get a mid game

          Who cares · 05/06/2017 at 22:47

          Absolute rubbish..

      Who cares · 05/06/2017 at 22:47

      Absolute rubbish….

    Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:05

    Waste of a trade

      Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 21:04

      If you watch the way danger goes after the pill with second and third efforts Fyfe doesn't compete. I dunno he just doesn't seem as influential as he used to be. He was bloody playing in the ruck for stints on the weekend haha

        Stirlsy · 05/06/2017 at 23:51

        I don't think he will return to the 120+ a game this year Sam, he is struggling ATM and it will be pretty much the same after his bye. The word all week in Perth was he and Sandi wouldn't play, so chances are he is sore or carrying something.
        I'm not against the trade if your team is complete or you have trades to burn as i don't see him going better then 105 avg on the way home.

    Randomcliche2 · 05/06/2017 at 23:30

    I nearly pulled the pin this week, but didn't. Watched him and saw a bloke genuinely giving it a crack and doing a lot of team things, albeit not sc things like hitout to advantage in q4. He missed some marks he would have taken pre broken leg. Which I reckon is one reason for the drop off, ie negative points for dropped Mark instead of a mark and kick. If he starts clunking them again watch the F out, you'll want him. I'm looking elsewhere for my rnd 13 fix….smiles at Sandi and Roughy.

      Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 23:46

      Agree mr cliche, look fyfe is a star would be silly to trade him, gotta back in your premos I guess! he has to and will come around. Since rucks are so sketchy this year I'm gonna move nank into my ruck and trade sandy to yeo and roughy up to macrae.

      Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 23:50

      I will be giving Fyfe this week to prove himself. I believe he still has it in him, but whether it is this year or the next I would have to say the latter.

bUCKET__ · 05/06/2017 at 16:31

Ainsworth every chance to get a call up at some point soon if fit, if you've held this far might as well hold a little further

Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 16:54

Can you make enough to bring in docherty?

    Stanks21 · 05/06/2017 at 17:04

    Na i cant at this stage. Just had a go

Jack · 05/06/2017 at 17:06

Hanners or JPK?

    Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 17:07

    JPK. Always finishes the season strong

    Sam_01 · 05/06/2017 at 17:13

    JPK always comes home like a train, can't really go wrong with either jpk is a bit cheaper aswell I think I'd probably just go him

whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 17:09

So was Yeo. Scott Selwood. We'll see who was the pick of the season at the end of the season…………

pod · 05/06/2017 at 17:20

Dahl $478K or Macrae $523K for Nank. I could also dump Otten or McGrath, then swing a few DPP's, and grab both Dahl and Macrae.
Any advice welcome.

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 17:49

    Slow down pod. Don't trade Nank. Surely you can ditch someone else

      pod · 05/06/2017 at 18:19

      Thanks INP, I'll keep him but having both Dahl & Macrae this week is soooo tempting.

    redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 17:59

    Grab them both. Nank seems a luxury trade to do it, though.

      pod · 05/06/2017 at 18:20

      Cheers red I'll find a way.

pod · 05/06/2017 at 17:24

Must be drunk.

Dane · 05/06/2017 at 17:26

Where can you find centre bounce attendance stats?

    Bruce Macavany · 05/06/2017 at 21:15

    Only in my SPECIAL little note pad

    Randomcliche2 · 05/06/2017 at 23:35

    Dunno mate, asked a similar question last week. Fantasy insider anyone? AFL advanced stats? Help a bro out community!

CJay · 05/06/2017 at 17:28

Riewoldt still out this week.
Thought he was a must have at the start of the season but not so sure anymore.
Will hold another week.

    hedski · 05/06/2017 at 17:49

    Same, theyre saying he'll be back next week, can still field 19 this week (maybe).

    Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:59

    He was my must have at the beginning of the season.

    Randomcliche2 · 05/06/2017 at 23:36

    He was mine and then he busted his knee. Trade and save, just like old cars.

Andy · 05/06/2017 at 17:38

Greene or Wallis? Wallis is playing as a genuine midfielder but still not sure. What should i do?

    Danners · 05/06/2017 at 19:07

    Greene, you'd already have Macrae and Dahlhaus

      Rooster XXX · 05/06/2017 at 22:52

      Danners why does it matter if he already has Macrae & Dahl?
      Totally irrelevant if he already has the two other Doggies fwds….

      Dogs have had their bye already GWS haven't so straight way that is a tick for Wallis. If you think Wallis will outecore Greene for rest of 2017 then he is your man, regardless of what other Doggies players you have in fwd line…

The BONT · 05/06/2017 at 17:48

Welcome to the team Brad Ebert. What are peoples thourghts?

    Stanks21 · 05/06/2017 at 17:51

    Good pick. Has been very consistent this year and will be around the 100 mark every week.

    IntheNickofTime · 05/06/2017 at 17:57

    Don't look back. Have been meaning to pick him up post-bye for a few weeks now.

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 18:04

    Great pick, very tackle happy this year too.

      Billioux · 05/06/2017 at 18:06

      Got him last week.Happy

    neil Demons Delight · 05/06/2017 at 20:25

    yeah great move Bont trying to get him myself

    Captain Feathersword · 05/06/2017 at 20:31

    its *thoughts you pirate, yarrr yarrrr me hearty

    Steeeve · 06/06/2017 at 09:35

    I advised someone against this move last week and boy was I proved wrong. So if you want him then go for it. Just be aware his best season ever was an average of only 100. Every other year he has averaged below 100. Will he really finish the year averaging 110+ like we want from our premo mids?

Bottom · 05/06/2017 at 17:57

Kelly or Oliver?

Also need an forward upgrade option, thinking wingard/lynch/greene

    Stanks21 · 05/06/2017 at 18:01

    Both great. But i would say Kelly. And Greene for the forward line

    Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 18:08

    Oliver since he has had his bye. Lynch if you are struggling to field a team in round 13 otherwise Greene.

      Bottom · 05/06/2017 at 18:10

      Cheers lads, actually contemplating spending the bit more to get sloane over kelly now and i'll go with greene

        Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 18:18

        You sure you want to do that considering they both have Round 13 byes. Make sure to double check how many you can field.

    BoltonsBlues · 05/06/2017 at 21:21

    paying 580k for Kelly, i wouldnt do it, the kid is a good player, but i dont think he has been hit with a hard tag yet, Curnow for my blues may just go to him this week.
    You are paying just below max price right now

      whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 21:49

      Never play with your heart. Play with mind and gut.

redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 18:05

Who do people think will be the best player to get out of JPK and Hanners, from here on?

The stats tell me Hanners is better, but I've read a lot about JPK always finishing seasons off strongly. JPK is a fair bit cheaper, but it's my last midfield position, so I want the best option.

    David C · 05/06/2017 at 18:36

    I brought in Hanners this week, go the better player.

      lok · 05/06/2017 at 18:51

      so JPK.

        redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 18:56

        I like the logic.

    pod · 05/06/2017 at 18:54

    I'd pick JPK only because he's cheaper, both guns.

      Wedge · 05/06/2017 at 21:59

      Yep you would do your head in trying to justify who is better. I would just trade in the cheaper option

    Randomcliche2 · 05/06/2017 at 23:41

    From memory JPK has more high score records than Hanners….and that's why I have rocky on my bench as well…

Bells E Bubb · 05/06/2017 at 18:06

Would be McNice to see McNeice get another two games. Any chance?

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 18:13

    Doubt it, but could be used for loopholing.

    Randomcliche2 · 05/06/2017 at 23:44

    Mate he was soooooo tired when they rested him. They could be hit with GWS like injuries. Keep an eye on Barron's report.

Jambak · 05/06/2017 at 18:06

Who to get out of Greene, wallis, macrae, lynch?
Was going to go macrae but concerned with wallis in the side causing him to drop off a few points, thoughts?

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 18:12

    Macrae, Greene, Lynch, Wallis in that order.

    Lynch could be amazing value at 430K but being a KPP more risky.

      Jambak · 05/06/2017 at 18:18

      Yeah that's true already have two in buddy and Kennedy, don't need another yoyo in my side

    Danners · 05/06/2017 at 19:10


He Man · 05/06/2017 at 18:16

Hey everyone,

First time posting as I'm a little bit stumped. I built up a bit of a war chest hoping to make some final upgrades to premium.

Def: Docherty, Laird, McDonald, Shaw, Rance, Stewart (Perryman, Scharenberg)

Mid: Dangerfield, Mitchell, Treloar, M Crouch, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Berry, Fisher, Bolton)

Ruck: Sandilands, Grundy

For: Macrae, Franklin, Nankervis, Lynch, Kennedy, Dahl (Greenwood, Parsons)

I've got $553.1k in the war chest and 15 trades.

Thanks heaps guys!

    Kyle · 05/06/2017 at 19:31

    Your mids are looking weak mate. Upgrade berry and swallow to premos. Then SPP at m8

    Derek · 05/06/2017 at 19:58

    Great War chest.

    bang bang bang

    Bont, JPK and cousins IN

    JohndJames · 05/06/2017 at 23:54

    Hi He Man I'd be looking at your mids,since that is the only line that needs work,Myers,Berry, Fisher and even Swallow need to go,I'd be doing two upgrades one dowgrade, getting in Pendles, Hanners and Cousins this week and be looking at Bont in a few weeks time.

    #Pieinghigh · 06/06/2017 at 14:04

    I would trade

    Swallow > JPK
    SPP / Myers > Bont
    SPP / Myers > Cousins

    Defence is weak as well.. You really only have 2 premos in Laird and Doch, McDonald, Rance and Shaw aren't in top 6 this year and have been overtaken by Roberton, Adams, Howe, Lloyd etc.

Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 18:17

Thoughts on possible trades for this week community?
Here is my team:
Need to get rid of Sandi I think, however am short on cash to upgrade him. Am considering Kreuzer if I can find cash.
Cousins is an option, however I can currently only field 17 in Round 13, so bringing him in would worsen my situation. Could just accept the donut in Round 13 however I am playing for rank and currently at around 3k.
Really struggling to come up with any ideas and I also dislike that Barret or SPP will be on the bench this week.
Appreciate any advice in advance

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 18:22

    Parsons out, Bolton forward and Cousins in.

    Sandi for Kreuzer.

      Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 18:36

      Then I end up with 2 playing rookies on the bench in the midfield. However this might be my best bet.

        whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 18:56

        Still plenty for this round. What about round 13?

          Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 18:59

          This round I have 19 or 20 depending on sandi I think and next round I have 17(this is before any trades).

    Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:41

    Id sit pretty. Your cows aren't fat enough unless you want to go Stewart to a rookie and then Berry to Premo. Stewart will make a lot more $$$ though.

      Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 19:56

      What would you do about the big Sandy

    redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 20:09

    How about Sandi out, Nank to ruck and bring a forward in, Lynch maybe. Next week or week after bring in the best ruck you can and put Nank back up front.

      Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 20:25

      I like that idea. Not a fan of Lynch though so am considering Greene or Wallis. Both have disadvantages though one has the bye soon the other would leave me with 3 Dogs players in the forward line.

        David C · 05/06/2017 at 20:48

        At this stage of the game whoever you bring in needs to be a keeper.

          Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 20:59

          Greene and Wallis are keepers are they not?

Jez · 05/06/2017 at 18:24

160k – 16 trades
Def: Adams, Shaw, Tuohy, Otten, Newmann, Marchbank (Berry, Hibberd)
Mid: Dangerfield, Fyfe, Kennedy, Pendlebury, Merrett, Beams, P-Pepper, S Selwood (Taranto, Myers, Greenwood)
Ruck: Sandilands, S Martin (Strnadica)
Fwd: Macrae, Dahlhaus, Lynch, Roughead, Franklin, Nank (Eddy, Parsons)
Looking for advice on holding or trading this week and who to?
Would appreciate your S/Coach tactics.

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:16

    Newman or Marchbank and Myers out for Docherty and Cousins. I'd probably hold Newman another week or two and go Marchbank to Docherty if you can afford to

      David C · 05/06/2017 at 20:46

      Otten before Newman and Marchbank due to byes.

        Jez · 05/06/2017 at 21:49

        Would you go Otten to Hibberd or Roberton, Melb already had byes and can do this with single trade.
        Can also go Otten – Laird but Rd 13 not ideal.
        In two trades I could get Cousins and Docherty.
        What are your thoughts there?

Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 18:27

The difference between the good sides (1000-5000 rank) and the great sides (inside 300) currently seems the better premos. I don't have Bont, Jelwood, Kelly or Dusty. instead I started with Fyfe, Treloar, JPKennedy, Danger and Neale. Picked up Oliver and Pendles on the way. Seemed like a good starting team at the time.

    TOPHAWK1 · 05/06/2017 at 18:52

    That's what it basically comes down to Top Gun. The top 300 or so teams would have started with those premos you mentioned as well as having a stable ruck. Perhaps started with Martin and Sandi. I bet these teams also nailed all the early big $ rooks like Otten, Newman, WHE, Barrett, Marchbank etc. Nonetheless, if you are in the top 2500 or so at this time and perhaps no more than 1200 points off the lead, I reckon there is plenty of time to make a real run to the finish line. It requires sound bye planning, disciplined trading. (grabbing the relevant rooks at the right time, culling fattened rooks at the right time, and targeting the ultra premos when their price is not over inflated. Rational VC and E loopholing is crucial. After that, its just a bit of luck, avoiding too many injuries and seeing where the ride takes you!! Good luck mate.

      Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:09

      One player to premo. This damn game requires skill and luck to win. 1120 rank but gonna be hard to win from here. Good luck to you too.

    TigerNut · 05/06/2017 at 19:03

    I started with Danger, Martin, Kelly and T Mitchell. Was pretty rapt with those selections

      Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:11

      Be hitting you up at the start of next season Tiger.. lol

    Derek · 05/06/2017 at 19:06

    That has been the sad truth.

    I have 5 out of the top 30 ranked players.

    I stuck with the old guard and waited for Oliver, Kelly, Bont, Sloane, Neale, Merrett, Yeo, Zorko and Robertson to crash and burn.

    Having said that, there are always plenty of risky picks that don't work as well.

    I still think some of the old guard will redeem themselves, especially the hard nuts when the season starts to take its toll. Those up front without trades and not able to jump off an early season gun will quickly slip away.

      Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:16

      Agreed Derek. Wasn't sure about Kelly….Sloane ranger has taken it to a new level. Simple fact you back yourself. I like many judges look at how a player finishes the last 10 rounds to get a snapshot of their ability next season. Endurance will see the likes of JPK, Jelwood, Pendles, etc as you said to deliver.

      Moosehead · 05/06/2017 at 19:25

      Derek old son, you are so hard on yourself. Be like Hanners and get on the terps. Even someone like you who is so SC knowledgeable and generous with your opinion can have an ordinary SC year. I also went for the traditional players but going ok.

    SCaddict · 05/06/2017 at 19:38

    That's not necessarily true. I don't have Jelwood, Kelly or Dusty either yet have been steadily climbing the rankings now ranked 318th overall. Avoiding a lot of the disasters like Shaw, Parker and NRoo is probably just as important as having the guys scoring gangbusters to your ranking and league performances.

    Also getting your midpricers and rookies more right than wrong makes a major contribution to how successful your season ends up being. A lot of coaches were hurt early in the season by starting too many spud rookies on their field. Then there is your bye navigation performance. So there are a lot of factors at play.

      Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:51

      True Scaddict and well done on your ranking but commonalities exist between the top sides as I have been looking at their sides. They seem to have all the 'right' mids. We know players can have a purple patch; let's hope some of the old brigade bring their A game for the remainder of the season. And yes their is so much more than just good mids. Byes usual sort the SC players out who struggle.

      Derek · 05/06/2017 at 20:12

      Nice going Addict

      neil Demons Delight · 05/06/2017 at 20:37

      get them in and who knows great effort son

    wombatsfc · 05/06/2017 at 20:24

    It doesn't neccasarily mean that they started those players TG. If your prepared to burn trades and sideways trade in the first 11 weeks it's not difficult to have 5 of the top 10 mids by round 12.

    It's only half time mate all sorts of atrocities are yet to befall 100,000 supercoaches and all sorts of miracles are yet to happen to the other 100,000.
    Dusty might decide to stay in NZ until he joins the hoppers n/y, Bont might continue his 3 round ave of 87 for rest of year, Jelwood might turn out to be a cyborg and get banned.

DacZawson · 05/06/2017 at 18:35

After the one week where he goes huge, I'll just assume that it was coincidence that you bring it up now and not 3 weeks ago

Swanny · 05/06/2017 at 18:52

Priddas and Myers for cousins and Bont sound like a good idea

    whatyasmokin · 05/06/2017 at 18:55

    Normally wouldn't promote sideways trading but considering the byes it's ok. Hope you don't regret it later though.

    Danners · 05/06/2017 at 19:09

    Only if you have around 20 trades

      INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 20:41

      Agree with Danners. Lycett back shortly will mean he has a ruckman that can tap it to him. West Coast have had make shift spud rucks all season

    redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 19:17

    If i had Priddis i'd be holding him and hoping he comes good, at least for a few games after his bye. Statistically speaking he seems in a similar boat to Fyfe, although he may have bottomed out in price.

    David C · 05/06/2017 at 20:41

    If you are going to sideways trade at least go to a form player. Bont lately not producing … maybe Hannebury.

Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 19:04

He has been doing Shaw's job; it's as though they have reversed roles

Glen · 05/06/2017 at 19:08

Do we see callum brown getting a run soon ddp cheap and for the run home.?please help need a player in the future.

    The Who · 05/06/2017 at 19:22

    Who are you? who who who who, now tell me who are you? (im singing to this so called callum brown)

      Billy · 05/06/2017 at 19:28

      Glen or is there anyone else who could get a run on the way home don't see many hibbard!!

Tom McV · 05/06/2017 at 19:34

Williams or Hibberd?

    SF4 · 05/06/2017 at 19:52

    Hibberd, already had his bye

Kyle · 05/06/2017 at 19:37

Is there actually anyone worth bringing in this week? Need to do a downgrade or two to bring in bont and a premo forward next week but really struggling with finding someone to bring in. Already have simpson and cant bring in scharenberg cause im struggling to field 18 in r13.

    jez_m · 06/06/2017 at 12:53

    James Cousins from Hawthorn ($102K MID) is on the bubble this week. He's a good downgrade option and his job security going forward is reasonable I reckon.

    randomcliche · 06/06/2017 at 13:08

    for non-rnd 13….start doing your 'rookie rain dance' for Smith (melb), otherwise its some pommie from the doggies….yuck.

Don't Blush Baby · 05/06/2017 at 19:40

J.Harbrow charged with Drink Driving, glad I didn't bring him in

    Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 19:56

    Same, I changed my mind to Hibberd last minute

    Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 20:05

    And missing a game after being suspended. Jack Martin assaulted. As Bill Lawry used to say "It's all happening!"

    Swans2012 · 05/06/2017 at 20:25

    That's a new way for me to lose a player during byes ffs

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 20:38

    Needs to go straight to the Ben Cousins school of Booze Bus evasion

    No one · 05/06/2017 at 21:00

    So Shaw's changed on field roles with Williams and off field roles with Harbrow?

    Randomcliche2 · 06/06/2017 at 00:18

    That's a p!sser…..#burnsomemoretrades (see if this gets past the auto moderate)

Jambo · 05/06/2017 at 19:49

Last week, I traded Fyfe for Jelwood then gave Jelwood the VC tag. 🙂

    redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 19:58

    Did you then roll the dice and put the C on Kelly?

Hothi_FC · 05/06/2017 at 20:00

Thoughts on ugrading tex walker, thinking of mitch wallis or charlie dixon? which one shall i go for? I do have $651 000 to play around with

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:19

    out of the two, Wallis. With Dixon I think you'll get some 130+ scores, plus some 40's.

    ONE TOUCH WONDER · 05/06/2017 at 20:29

    Tex Walker, That's my shark move…

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:54


    pod · 06/06/2017 at 11:06

    Must be better options.

Ja191 · 05/06/2017 at 20:12

Hibberd, rocky, jpk and the only one you'd want to trade out of those is Sandi and maybe WHE.(will make a bit more)

Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 20:16

Rocky, JPK in ….WHE, Newman out …but it all depends on your bye and team structures. Do you have cover for Sandi with Nank?

Mike · 05/06/2017 at 20:17


    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:21


      Brick · 05/06/2017 at 20:27


        KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:39

        haha Brick. nice

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 20:36


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redherringfc · 05/06/2017 at 20:19

Does anyone know the likelihood of Darcy Cameron getting a game for Sydney? I've heard rumblings (on this page) that Tippett needs the axe so he can get a run.

Or should I pocket the extra 15k and just get Strndica?

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:39

    Depends on how the next few games go I'd say. If we(swans) are 100% out of the finals race, I can see Cameron getting some games. if we're right in the hunt for finals I think they'll want to field the best team possible each week, and Tippett can still be pretty handy if he pulls his finger out

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 21:16

    Tippett is a much more expensive version of Jesse White ATM. Think he will get a go at some point

Top Gun · 05/06/2017 at 20:25

With Mitch Robinson gone for the season Rocky and Zorko the Magnificent should go big

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 21:17

    They would anyway. Pigs

Danny · 05/06/2017 at 20:29

Wallis or Greene?

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:53


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    joe · 06/06/2017 at 11:52

    Wallis is a really interesting POD candidate and has cleared his bye.

    It's tempting.

Pete · 05/06/2017 at 20:34

Should I trade McGrath to Cousins this week ? Can't afford an upgrade so it might weaken my team in the short term as McGrath is my M8.

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:53

    If hes your M8 its not a problem. M6 and there might be.

KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:37

This week I'm considering:

Sandi to Kreuzer
Myers to Cousins
Eddy to Junker(going in the mid) via DPP (junker cheap 102k just to open up the def/mid swing I've been wanting. understand he won't play)

leaves me with the following team.

DEF: Docherty, Laird, Adams, Lloyd, Newman, Z Jones (Melican, Scharenberg)
MID: Danger, Titch, Pendles, JSelwood, Bont, JPK, Fyfe, SSelwood (SPP, Cousins, Junker)
RUCK: Grundy, Kreuzer (Strndica)
FWD: Yeo, Dahl, Nank, Buddy, Heeney, Greenwood (Parsons, Deluca-Cardillo)

defence a little Swans happy, so Newman and Jones will turn into maybe Roberton and HIbberd pretty soon. both Newman and Jones can go big though so we'll see. May keep SPP as an M9. SSelwood keeps his spot for a while until he reaches 450k if I'm lucky.

these trades also leave me with 11 trades and 108k.

now in theory the plan seems okay? but things rarely go to plan ha worried it may take me too long to get to full premo

    Deedee · 05/06/2017 at 20:44

    Who is Junker?

      KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:46


      KrazeeEyezK1lla · 05/06/2017 at 20:46

      kid from North. Oscar Junker. 102k mid/def

    Mike · 06/06/2017 at 06:53

    Looks like your in a bit of trouble with Heeny and Nank in your fwd line @this stage of the season as they are def not top 6 forwards . Can also see you on trouble with Lloyd and Kreuzer at seasons end . Hope you have plenty of trades. Good luck

      whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 08:07

      Heeney could actually be a top 6-10 forward come seasons end. Nank is still averaging 98 iirc. Not sure why you think Lloyd will be a problem hes a ball magnet. Kruezer is an injury concern his form is top notch see him vs Goldy recently?

      KrazeeEyezK1lla · 06/06/2017 at 08:13

      yeah but where's the fun in having the same team as everybody else? I can see Heeney and Nank averaging 100 for the rest of the year. both teams pushing for finals. Richmond much more likely. Swans will come hard. Heeney's a gun.

      WTF · 07/06/2017 at 20:03

      Mike sounds like you missed the boat on NANK or you haven't got a clue.
      Nank is averaging 98 so he is currently a top 6 forward now that Kennedy is out.
      NANK will be a top 10 forward come season end with the versatility of having ruck cover = PRICELESS!!!

      Same goes for Heeney 97 average thus far.

      The best 10 forwards based on Average's are:
      Wallis 110 but only played two games, Yeo 107, Macrae 101, Dixon 101, Dahlhaus 99, Nank 98, Heeney 97, Greene 97, Franklin 95, Cameron 96

      Lloyd will also be top 6 to 10 defender and a very cheap one in two weeks time, I will be jumping on him along with 30% of others.

      If Kreuzer remains sound he is killing it out there this year, his only issue is remaining injury free.

      It seems as though you are jealous or very silly when it comes to SC – Or more than likely a combination of both.

David C · 05/06/2017 at 20:38

Sharenberg is on the bubble so get him now. But hold after that. Conserve trades.

    Mavs17 · 05/06/2017 at 20:53

    Should i bother trading Burton. Can pretty much upgrade hime to most good DEF and then leave Stewart to cull in a few more weeks

Dean · 05/06/2017 at 20:38

Not sure what I want to do this week, I traded down last week and scored horrendously.
When I made my trades last week I initially done them wanting to trade out Newman & McGrath this week to bring in Docherty & Roberton which will leave me with $184k in the bank – I will definitely be bringing in Docherty but unsure on Roberton.

McGrath should make his B/E & I think Newman will score 90+ and has the capacity to score close to Roberton, however Newman isn't consistent like Roberton.
I prefer Hibbered over Roberton but due to Hibbered having his bye in R13 really screws me up as I don't have enough R13 players.

If I trade Hampton to Docherty it will only leave me with $212k left over so it doesn't really allow me to upgrade the way Newman & McGrath would. In Round 13 or 14 I must bring in Lloyd and would LOVE to bring Adams in after his bye if I can manage to find the cash.

Not easy.

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:52

    Mate Hibberd had his bye last week. If you want him get him in, hes a good price with a low be and has been racking up numbers like roberton.

Harrow · 05/06/2017 at 20:42

Problem solved. Michael Hibberd – Melbourne, had his bye in round 11

    Dean · 05/06/2017 at 23:41

    All this swapping and trying to manipulate my team has screwed with my head. Cheers mate my brain in fried, what's left of it. That's a massive relief.

Dean · 05/06/2017 at 20:47

Roberton or Hibberd?

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 21:09

    Hmmm good question. Roberton has been freed up by the arrival of Carlisle & Brown. But if one of them went down he could suffer. Hibberd won't be impacted by that sort of problem. So perhaps the better long term option

Shake n bake · 05/06/2017 at 21:04

Might just trade Danger to Ebert this week! Have 20 trades then bring him back maybe rd 13 or 14. did the same last year at bye time Danger to Slone.

    Mavs17 · 05/06/2017 at 21:09

    Just wow….. surely this is a joke haha?

    dannyyboyy · 05/06/2017 at 21:10

    dangers BE is 79, if he has another ripper when he comes back you might have to spend a bit more to pull this move off. This move, mr Bake, requires quite large plums!

    BlueNath · 05/06/2017 at 21:11

    Yeah, go for it! You have 20 trades left so why not waste 2 more on sideways trades. It's not every round you get to waste 3 trades!

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/06/2017 at 21:12

    The magnificent shake n bake fake – folklore that one.
    Danger – Sloane- Danger pure genius.

    Danger – Ebert not quite the same ring

    But with 20! still up the sleeve ……

      The Ranger · 05/06/2017 at 23:05

      Haha! I'd forgotten about the Shake n Bake Fake of 2016!
      Great move Shake, do it again!!!

    Derek · 06/06/2017 at 13:28

    That my friend…. is a Classic Shake n bake fake!!!!

pod · 05/06/2017 at 21:10

Darcy Moore could have a new role playing as part time ruck. If he's anything like his old man could be a late POD.

    Tim Watson · 05/06/2017 at 21:12

    watched footy classified i see

      pod · 05/06/2017 at 21:13

      Hey Tim, don't you ever sleep, and yes I did.

    BlueNath · 05/06/2017 at 21:13

    Not good news for Grundy owners!

      Tyruddanaut · 05/06/2017 at 21:59

      Moore has already started playing the role. He did a bit last week but Grundy still racked up 98

        Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 22:31

        Moore did not play ruck in the second half. I believe Grundy was very low at half time

    Tibor · 06/06/2017 at 09:28

    The primary reason there is talk of Darcy Moore as a ruckman is he is so bloody disappointing as a forward

      pod · 06/06/2017 at 09:58

      True Tibor but well done Bucks for finally tweaking game plan.

Rivo · 05/06/2017 at 22:04

Is it time for Sandi to go? Have Nank and Stef. Considering Ryder or Grundy.

Have midfield full premo. Still 4 premo's short (3 in Fwd).

Have 18 on-field cover for this round. Hold or trade? Thoughts?

    NickMacMan · 05/06/2017 at 22:10

    If he isn't named he is gone

    whatyousmokin · 05/06/2017 at 22:41

    Ryder possibly due to dp. Not a big fan of grundy.

    Pete · 05/06/2017 at 23:06

    Has to go if not named. Can't wear another two weeks of zeroitis from a guy who was never going to be a keeper anyway.

    David C · 06/06/2017 at 06:56

    I'm waiting for Gawn.

      Rivo · 06/06/2017 at 08:00

      David, yes Gawn is very tempting. Want to see how he goes and think his price may fall first week or 2 as he eases back into it. Hmmm.

        whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 08:11

        Hoping my sandi to goldy trade pays off. Then hopefully do witts to gawn for stuff all cash towards finals.

    TheGreatBozza · 06/06/2017 at 12:50

    I'm holding him. A donut this week isn't the worst as we actually have cover since it is best 18. I am playing for league wins however, so I will re-evaluate the big fellas after R13

NickMacMan · 05/06/2017 at 22:06

Myers, SPP or Barrett out?

    Rivo · 05/06/2017 at 22:16

    Myers 1st of those, on shaky ground, SPP & Barrett still have a little more cash to make.

    INPieman · 05/06/2017 at 22:24

    Myers I'm afraid to say

    Hoot · 06/06/2017 at 09:43

    Myres has a history of 70s and may prove his worth post byes… just a shame to trade out a players with only 100k increase so far…. in saying that i may have to do it myself to get the cash i need.

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:49

    You could dotch SPP because he is worth $325k which will help with upgrades and possibly wont make much more cash on a be of 49. Straight to cousins gives you enough cash for a good upgrade.

TBone · 05/06/2017 at 22:26

Is Kreuzer a decent option to go to from Sandi? Either that or I wait another week and grab Stef after he goes down in price (139 b/e)

    whatyousmokin · 05/06/2017 at 22:40

    Yep like kruezer

    Derek · 06/06/2017 at 13:27

    i would keep sandi before i traded in Kruezer, that is about as sideways as you can get

Choice · 05/06/2017 at 22:28

Out: Barrett,Berry, Newman
In: Doch, Hibberd, cousins

    Mavs17 · 05/06/2017 at 22:31

    Good trades

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 08:10

    Solid. Pity you didnt ditch the brisbane boys last week though. Im jolding barrett was just coming into some form. Hope rocky returning doesnt squeeze him out.

      Choice · 06/06/2017 at 10:38

      I could just go Marchbank to Hibberd and hold off getting Doch, miss out on Cousins though.

        whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:46

        Nah probably stick with the trades I reckon.

Mavs17 · 05/06/2017 at 22:35

Is Lloyd sydney worth bringing in this week or next week?

    Defying_Madness · 05/06/2017 at 22:35

    Next week his be is 160ish

      Mavs17 · 05/06/2017 at 22:37

      Thanks. Thinking ill upgrade Burton to him and keep stewart to downgrade in coming weeks.

    Leeds17 · 06/06/2017 at 06:10

    Looking at him for R13 will come down in price but also would like to see him play a game as the head knocks can affect you for a couple weeks.

BigBuggars · 05/06/2017 at 22:38

So f%$kin glad I concluded that Harbrow had "come of age" and was worth bringing in a couple weeks back. The dickhead.

Randomcliche2 · 05/06/2017 at 23:21

Clayton Oliver. Daylight second. Witts, third. Doc well ahead of the defensive line.

    Tibor · 06/06/2017 at 09:25

    Couldn't agree more

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:35

    Yeah Id say oliver at this stage.

    Damo · 06/06/2017 at 15:15

    Roberton could definitely be in the conversation to

      Randomcliche2 · 06/06/2017 at 19:58

      Now we're talking. Perhaps Roberton or smurphy I instead of daylight….good as daylight has been this season….Kelly also making a run for it. Yeo, Steele and mid-season pick of Walters are also looking good. As for Nank, well he might not see the season out, but has been very good. Adams a bloody good pick in defence as well. It's tricky to compare players from different lines at different prices scoring different averages. Burton? Newman? All I know is Oliver 1 not Zac Williams.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/06/2017 at 23:22

Stuff me sideways!!
Did anyone happen to glance at the top score in rd 11?

Wait for it …..


Bear in mind that is from 18 players – man that is super impressive. Most of us be happy with that from 22.

    INPieman · 06/06/2017 at 07:54

    All the magic numbers came up. Also had some nice players that didn't make the 18. Crazy week

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 08:08

    Wow, thats crazy. Im going for top score this week haha.

    Hoot · 06/06/2017 at 09:39

    Some ppl set up their team from rd1 to win the "high score of the round" prize… trading strategically to aim at 22 onfield premos. Not sure if these is still a cash incentive to do so as there was years ago.

Rick Grimes · 06/06/2017 at 08:23

Are there any downgrade options? I need a midfielder, ideally fwd eligible. Just nothing even on the horizon as far as I can see. Might have to resort to a non-starter.

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 08:31

    Theres two hawks midfield rookies?

      Rick Grimes · 06/06/2017 at 08:53

      I have Cousins already, the other I'm not sold on. I wanted to be full premo by end of byes but without viable downgrade options it's hard.

        INPieman · 06/06/2017 at 09:23

        I expect Callum Brown to debut this week Rick. 117K Mid/Fwd. He was a travelling emergency to Perth. With Elliott Wells & Goldsack stuffed & Levi Greenwood a maybe I think he's almost certain to get a game

          Rick Grimes · 06/06/2017 at 09:45

          Thanks INP. I looked at him as someone who would surely get a run soon. Is Scharenburg safe for now? I'd expected more from him. Is tidy when he gets the ball, just not getting much of it.

            whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:31

            And hes expensive

            whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:44

            What about luke ryan?

            INPieman · 06/06/2017 at 10:51

            He is very tidy with it. Finding his feet at senior level. JS very good for a rookie. 3 blokes going down (probably long term) further improves. Bench cover decent option. Don't bring him in as a cash cow

              Rick Grimes · 06/06/2017 at 11:15

              I already bought him in last week. He's D7 for now.

    Derek · 06/06/2017 at 11:32

    Miles from Hawthorn played in the VFL last week and looks to have recovered from his knee injury. Don't be surprised to see him named this week, or more likely after the bye.

      Rick Grimes · 06/06/2017 at 14:08

      Yea he's worth a look.

FEARTHEBEARD · 06/06/2017 at 09:17

Roberton or Lloyd likely to be best defender? Can make either work?

Kruezer or Martin???

Sandi sitting there not sure what to do?

    pod · 06/06/2017 at 10:03

    Roberton and Kruezer, nice.

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:44

    Lloyd in a couple of weeks will be a bargain, or hibberd/roberton now. Just remember kreuzer could fall apart, that saying he looks really confident in his body and is playing like a champ.

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 11:02

    And yeah id pull the trigger on the sandi to kruezer.

meph · 06/06/2017 at 09:33

Hello to this fantastic community havent posted my side here this season but really need some advice. Firstly not playing for rank just trying to ensure I make league finals in a fairly competitive league. Anyway here is my team

DEF: Doc, Adams, Laird, Shaw, Hibberd, Sharenberg (Stewart, perryman)

MID: Danger, titch, Merrett, Bont, Fyfe, JPK, Pendles, Barrett (myers, Bolton, Mountford)

RUCK: Stef, Sandi (Strndica)

FWD: Yeo, Dahl, McCrae, Buddy, Nank, Greenwood (Hannan, Eddy)

Have 190k in the kitty and 9 trades left (used one this week already Parsons to JPK)

I have used alot of trades I know but seemed to have been hit by every big injury so far. Any knowledgeable person have anything for me. Hold after the one trade this week? Upgrade somewhere?

    Rick Grimes · 06/06/2017 at 09:59

    I'd say hold this week as you can field a good 18. Next week should get close too. You need all rookies to fatten before you burn any further trades, IMO. Stewart and Perryman will make a premo, as will Barrett and Myers/Bolton, as will Greenwood, Hannan. But that's 6 trades worth, so you'll need to time it right and pray no further injuries.

      INPieman · 06/06/2017 at 10:17

      Agree with Rick. Hold fire on the 9. You need to max out every cent from those rookies from here & pray

      whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:42

      Agree here those rookies need to fatten team value looks low.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/06/2017 at 10:24

    Sit down and hang on.

    Only 1/2 way.

    Need to conserve and make every trade count from here on in.

    neil Demons Delight · 06/06/2017 at 12:46

    yes sit tight and let them fatten more meph Youre squad is competitive and Stewart Barrett AND Greenwood better than average rooks who really should be kept but I see your point however in your situation I think you may have to keep one probably Stewart or Greenwood couple of nice pods there too good luck Meph

    Derek · 06/06/2017 at 13:23

    you like the Bang bang bang! traded your arss off. Now you have to pick through the bargain bins and look for a fallen premium of two. Lloyd good example, wait a couple of weeks and snap him up. RGray will be dirt cheap soon. Gunston or Tex are at the bottom of the bargain bin if you have long arms

    Lazza · 06/06/2017 at 20:01

    To only have 9 you must have made 2 trades this round. No one can have less than 11 before this round unless you are playing in a 10 team comp which started a week earlier.

      Lazza · 06/06/2017 at 20:05

      Whoops.. forgot we could trade before the comps started …

JDP · 06/06/2017 at 10:25

Myers to Cousins?
Both round 13 Byes so won't help or hinder next week.

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:40

    Already did it. Myers is done for scoring not getting near it.

    Derek · 06/06/2017 at 13:12

    Myers is capable of a big score (more than Cousin anyway). All you need from a rookie is one good score and you can make some cash, myers might? cousins won't. But for $102k what do we expect.

    Not convinced about Cousins JS. Miles played in the VFL last week and i can see him taking Cousins place.

    having said that, i'm getting Cousins this week.

Dice · 06/06/2017 at 10:52

Because of Queen's bday game, can we still trade on Saturday arvo when Monday's teams are out?

    whatyousmokin · 06/06/2017 at 10:56

    Yeah but just remember you cant reverse trades once the round starts. So do each tradevas you need it ie one thursday night, friday etc

      Dice · 06/06/2017 at 11:16

      Wanting to do 2 trades now, and come Saturday night trade out a player with a bye this week for a player in Monday's game – that will work??

        randomcliche · 06/06/2017 at 13:14

        provided you've got the cashola for the first trades and don't need cash from the final one…

Jimmy · 06/06/2017 at 11:26

Dion Prestia at his price and after the bye, do you think he could come good or will his knee continue to give him grief? 99% chance I won't go there because now it's time to really start upgrading as opposed to finding cash generators but I can't help but to be intrigued

    jez_m · 06/06/2017 at 13:16

    He's only played 22 games in a season once. I'd steer clear because he'll probably be injured/rested between now and the end of the H&A season.

FEARTHEBEARD · 06/06/2017 at 11:53

Really could use the community help here.

Big decisions for me. PIEMAN my friend add your 2 cents.

If I want I can go Kruezer/Martin, Roberton in this week and will have to take Ryan as the cash cow for Stewart.

Can alternatively take Lloyd and either ruckman and Schanberggggg.

My team at present (with trades yet to be reversed is full premium in my eyes)

Adams, Laird, Docherty, Roberton, Shaw, Hibberd (Ryan as cover)

Sloane, Pendles, Danger, Oliver, Fyfe, Trealor, JPK, Beams, (Bolton & Myers as cover)

Kruezer, Witts (Strna allowing Nank as cover)

Yeo, Macrae, Dalh, Steele, Heeney, Nank (Greenwood as cover and able to link with Bolton)

I am unsure if Martin/Kruezer or Roberton/Lloyd is my best bet… Would love some thoughts just for the better premium picks as the cover won't bother me anywhere except d if Ryan gets dropped and even then my 6 d's are all premium and if injured long can be traded.

    INPieman · 06/06/2017 at 14:45

    I don't think you should be trading Witts. He going really well & he's consistent. You should be trying to hold him until Gawn is cheap. Roberton has a great ceiling but Lloyd will be very cheap & has valuable DPP. With Archie Smith playing at the moment you can't under any circumstances trade Martin in. Archie kills his scoring. Your team is looking very solid. How many trades do you have?

      FEARTHEBEARD · 07/06/2017 at 10:54

      Wasn't trading Witts.


      Think might hold on him.

      Lloyd or Roberton u reckon best overall forget about price?

    JohndJames · 06/06/2017 at 14:45

    Wait till Lloyd drops in price,could go down 60k in the next two weeks.

    Lazza · 06/06/2017 at 20:11

    If I were you I'd be getting my eyes checked. 4 short of Full Premo in my eyes, possibly 5.

      FEARTHEBEARD · 07/06/2017 at 10:54

      Then your eyes are biased.

    Dean · 07/06/2017 at 19:15

    That is a quality side my friend. Anyone knocking your team is either very envious or very stupid or both.

    The only non premo you have and unfortunately so do I is Shaw, this is the first season in over a decade where Shaw decides to play average at best.
    If I were you I would NOT be making a trade at all this week, if that was my team I would be holding strong and conserving trades because many ranked in the top, will end up finishing out of the top 1000 due to lack of trades.

    I would only consider trading Shaw to Lloyd around round 14 or even Williams or Hurley and also consider trading Fyfe out for J Selwood or Hanners
    Also maybe and it's a BIG maybe consider to bring in – S Martin or Mummy only if Kruezer or Witts start dropping off, meaning scores of sub 80's for three weeks in a row.

    Apart from that sit tight and HOLD those trades in case some of your players get injured or suspended, unless you have plenty of trades left (16+)
    With a team like that it doesn't matter even if you were ranked # 1 right now with low trades, with still half a season to go a lack of trades will kill you come season end.

    GOOD LUCK – Seriously a very nice side mate. Wish that was my side.

neil Demons Delight · 06/06/2017 at 12:36

Nice team feathers. Lloyd looks more reliable than Roberton still a quality choice though but Lloyd for me plus swans seem to be more of a chance for the eight the other one I like Kruz no real other ruckman of note where Martin does.. You are correct full prem in your eyes like many of us I have settled for Mc Grath at D6 in my eyes only thru lack of coin unless you were smart at the get go and lucky we all have McGrath.s Yours are Beams Steele AND Heeney all three caoable and steele and heeney could well be the best available not Beams though Bont AND Selwood for sure better than Beams sorry to be negative but a real good team cheers

    FEARTHEBEARD · 06/06/2017 at 13:49

    Thanks for reply Neil.

    Yeh I rate Beams and like him as a player.

    I would agree the other 2 can go just as big though all you need to do is see Bont last few weeks are 80-90 and Beams has pulled some big scores.

    If he went to shit would jump on 1.

      neil Demons Delight · 06/06/2017 at 14:38

      its mainly his injuries that spooks me fearthe beard though adams has that problem beams a real good pod I would imagine

Bill · 06/06/2017 at 13:14

Trading out Sandilands for Cain Ackland. Thoughts?

    INPieman · 06/06/2017 at 14:46

    Stroke of genius right there

Big G · 06/06/2017 at 16:06

Buddy or Wallis?

    Dean · 07/06/2017 at 18:09

    Wallis by far as he will be more consistent.

Dean · 07/06/2017 at 18:08

Make of this what you will. Dylan Roberton score when playing away over the last three years hasn't been great.

Here are the teams and scores Roberton faced away over the past three years.
GCS 70
Adelaide 69
Lions 84
GWS 123
Port 91
WCE 46

Port 52
WCE 72
Adelaide 46
GCS 79

WCE 105

Roberton's worst performances have been against Adelaide at their home ground where he scored 69 in 2015 and 46 in 2016 – It will be interesting to see what he scores this week.

Although I believe Roberton could very well be a top 6 defender this season, I personally won't be bringing him in this week, I will have to wait until next week as Docherty & Hibberd will enter my team this week.

hacksdejuego · 16/07/2017 at 04:25

Dion Prestia a su precio y después del adiós, ¿crees que podría venir bien o que su rodilla seguirá causándole dolor? 99% de posibilidades de que no vaya allí porque ahora es el momento de empezar a actualizar en lugar de encontrar generadores de efectivo, pero no puedo dejar de estar intrigado

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