AFL SuperCoach Podcast Round 11

THE FIRST OF THE MAJOR BYE ROUNDS IS HERE.

This week we explore some bye friendly options, but more importantly – the STRATEGY that will get the job done during this challenging and trouser stretching period.
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477 Comments

Steeeve · 30/05/2017 at 17:10

I'm taking the punt on Robbie Gray. They need to push for finals and will throw him in the guts. Massive ceiling, absolute bargain, covers me for all the byes.
Going early on Barrett to get him in.

    pilchos · 30/05/2017 at 17:19

    exact same as me, surely cant have an average of under 100 at seasons end

    Hoot · 30/05/2017 at 17:22

    rock bottom premo.. so long as he plays more on the ball.

    Leeds17 · 30/05/2017 at 17:50

    It's something I'm contemplating but they could have used him in the Mids last week and dont think he attended a centre bounce

    Randomcliche · 30/05/2017 at 19:05

    Not still sore down there?

      jockreynolds · 30/05/2017 at 19:16

      That's the question mark – he's still struggling with a bit of a groin niggle

        Randomcliche2 · 30/05/2017 at 20:36

        I look in my crystal ball and see Robbie Gray. There right at top just inside the arc…that's it! Robbie Gray stuck in the 50m arc. Welcome.

        Steeeve · 31/05/2017 at 14:21

        The groin has been no good for years, didn't stop him when he came home averaging 115 last year

    Ben · 30/05/2017 at 20:31

    What about wines?

      LoganJosh7 · 31/05/2017 at 12:03

      white or red?

    Danners · 30/05/2017 at 21:40

    Sounds good, if he doesn't perform, could be a handy M9 for you

    Luke · 02/06/2017 at 09:30

    good move Robbie a solid 40

      Steeeve · 02/06/2017 at 16:20

      Thanks Luke hadn't realised

stêvę · 30/05/2017 at 17:15

really tossing up trades this week. 15 left, but only 3 spots away from full premo so not concerned.
Option 1:Balic>greenwood
Option 2: Balic> greenwood, z fisher>bolton
Option 3:Balic> greenwood, z fisher>bolton, Parsons>D. Martin
Considering just going for it with option 3 to leave me with 18 this round and covered whole bye round with 12 trades left and 2 from full premo.

    MickyB · 30/05/2017 at 17:34

    Option 1 for me

      stêvę · 30/05/2017 at 17:42

      for reference the 2 rookies id be left with on field would be newman and powell pepper

Will · 30/05/2017 at 17:23

Which players should i buy this week?

Option 1 > Scott Selwood, Toby Greene and Greenwood (would leave me with 2 onfield rookies)
or
Option 2 > Pendles, Greenwood and cousins (cousins would sit on pine) would leave me with 3 infield rookies and full premo mid.

Cant decide, please give me your suggestions

    MickyB · 30/05/2017 at 17:34

    2

    Randomcliche · 30/05/2017 at 19:07

    Yoi should not buy Green. #flogacts

    Danners · 30/05/2017 at 21:40

    2, you will need DePendlebury

    Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2017 at 21:49

    Greene is, how do I put it, suspension prone

Imgonnalose · 30/05/2017 at 17:34

Sloane's getting tagged so I might trade him to petracca? Thoughts

    lok · 30/05/2017 at 17:47

    LOL no.

    EatChickenNuggets · 30/05/2017 at 17:53

    If I had Sloane, I would do the same, go for it I reckon

      Imgonnalose · 30/05/2017 at 17:57

      I was joking but fair enough haha especially as petracca with the bye

jez_ · 30/05/2017 at 17:54

Anyone considering Luke Parker as a trade in option post-bye? Sure he's been rubbish so far, but he's as rock bottom a permo as you can get. If he can average 105+ from here out he's a great pick for mine.

    MickyB · 30/05/2017 at 18:18

    No

    Adam · 30/05/2017 at 18:51

    Traded him in a couple of weeks ago. Worth taking a punt on him, buying very low on him and if strapped for cash, at his price it's great value for his potential.

      jez_m · 30/05/2017 at 18:57

      I'm strongly considering it Adam. In a year where cash generation is a struggle, we need to maximise every dollar and for a guy who averaged 111 last year he's a bargin.

    Danners · 30/05/2017 at 21:41

    That is a massive punt with the way he's going at the moment. If you have nothing to lose, go for it

    Top Gun · 31/05/2017 at 19:11

    Gutsy and could be gold. Seems like he is playing with an injury?

    Jim · 01/06/2017 at 15:01

    I've had him from round 1 and he's ruined my year. Don't do it

    Bells E Bubb · 02/06/2017 at 07:19

    Hell no.

Hoot · 30/05/2017 at 17:55

How do we define a "full premo side".

Im thinking something like….

In your opinion, a complete team in which every in field player from the current round onwards will;

Def avg >92
Mid avg >105
Ruck avg >97
Fwd avg >91

Thoughts?

    Imgonnalose · 30/05/2017 at 17:59

    But that would exclude Zac Dawson from premo status?

      Hoot · 30/05/2017 at 18:09

      You think the minimum should be lowered more?

        lok · 30/05/2017 at 18:18

        Yeah man no side is complete without the benefit of Dawson. Might have to lower it down to a solid 35 mark.

          Derek · 30/05/2017 at 23:22

          How many times was Dawson All Australian?

    Defying_Madness · 30/05/2017 at 18:10

    I will take the 95 avg from sandi and witts not too picky for me

      Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2017 at 21:46

      Hopefully 97 this week haha

    MickyB · 30/05/2017 at 18:20

    If ur onfield team is all top 10 in their position excluding rucks who average 100+

      Hoot · 30/05/2017 at 18:57

      If you look at the top 10 FWDs who have played 6 or more games… No. 10 (i think) is averaging 95ish and is Franklin.

      Lots of players in the low 90's (way out of top 10) that could turn their season around and vv for the top 5.

      I.e Lynch or Wingard

        Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2017 at 21:47

        I think you're missing out on 20% of the other players. There are a lot of under performing FWDs and Bavks this year

    Randomcliche2 · 30/05/2017 at 20:45

    I'd suggest 110 avg for mids and or having a reasonable chance of hitting 110, might not be to date eg Wines Fyfe, but they might get there…. so lets premo them up.

    Probably need the big 3 doc laird and adams in defense….or at least 2….looks at the team sees one 🙁

      Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2017 at 21:48

      I would say, due to the lack of 100+ defensive players, those three are a must

        Hoot · 30/05/2017 at 22:31

        At Rd 22 it will be very interesting to see what our D5 & 6 is averaging. (last 10 games) & (season)

        Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 11:06

        Yeah, not starting any of them was a big mistake. So I kinda see full premo as set of non-negotiable players like the three you say, plus 'others' that meet a threshold, not just all above a threshold. Lesson learned for next year. Can't pick 4 D5 and D6 players!

          Tyruddanaut · 31/05/2017 at 18:34

          I have the same problem! But currently JJ and Hibberd will fill the spots because of their byes. D6 will take some brain powrr

Austin · 30/05/2017 at 18:03

WARNING: Anyone contemplating Scooter this week you may want to rethink that. As Jock said that tackle count is unsustainable even in the short term. Will also be performing a lockdown role this weekend on Sloane and likely the same on Shuey or Mitchell when the Cats next play at West Coast. So don't be shocked if he spuds out back to back 60s which will both stifle his cash generation and also bring on a serious bout of buyer's remorse. Anyway you've been warned community so I really don't want to read your whiney b1tch comments next week when that selection all turns to shite.

    zilla · 30/05/2017 at 18:20

    On that note, and on the year of upsets and weird consistencies and inconsistencies I will be bringing in scooter. You say, Austin, dont be shocked if he doesn't have a high tackle count.. But going on this year MATE, dont be suprised if he does! And I dont want your Whiney WHINGEY comments about how you missed the boat because you were not willing to grow some knackers or take a chance. You can analyse all u want. Sometimes u just have to jump in the deep end… Shark or no shark… and swim to see if u can get to shore..

      lok · 30/05/2017 at 18:29

      No Zilla. Be realistic.. there is no world where a player can average 15+ tackles a game. I think Selwood will score a soft 67 this week, but will definitely have his chances of scoring 90-100 during the remaining rounds.

    Leeds17 · 30/05/2017 at 18:54

    I think it's pretty simple ask yourself are you happy with & does it suit you plan of attack if he averages 85-90 (from here on), if the answer is yes then bring him in if the answer is no then don't.

    You can't expect him to average 100+ it's just not a realistic expectation even though of course there is a slight chance he does.

    TigerNut · 30/05/2017 at 18:56

    Agree. I called McInnes wasn't a good trade in. I called Not to trade in Harbrow last week and now I'm calling the Scooter trade as a trap. I'm happy for everyone else to get Scooter because ill be able to get ahead of the pack. Trade in Scooter everyone haha

      ITCANTBT · 30/05/2017 at 19:09

      One week early on Cousins instead of Scooter at the expense of SPP?

        TigerNut · 30/05/2017 at 19:22

        Keep SPP for the byes. Do u have anyone else on the bench to trade instead such as Barrett?

          ITCANTBT · 30/05/2017 at 19:49

          Yeah I have Barrett

            Wedge · 31/05/2017 at 18:14

            Don't trade barrett

        Stanks21 · 30/05/2017 at 19:36

        Do it. PP is shit now. Time to move on from him

      Gogetem · 31/05/2017 at 18:37

      2 out of 3 ain't bad haha

    Karl · 30/05/2017 at 19:08

    Totally agree. Looking forward to seeing just how many conned coaches get sucked in Friday night and then look for the reverse trade button Saturday morning only to realise it's all too late bwahahahaha!

    Austin · 30/05/2017 at 19:12

    Oh yeah did I mention that he's flimsier than balsa wood?! The warnings signs are there for those not hypnotised by the SC score column the past two weeks!

      Mike · 30/05/2017 at 19:20

      What if you get him in for a few weeks of cash generation and then upgrade him to a premo? Or don't you think he will make enough cash to get in that upgrade position?

      bUCKET__ · 30/05/2017 at 19:35

      Nail on the head this is the real concern, Austin.

      He's never scored poorly from tagging before, heck his best work with WCE was when he had a clear role. But playing through injuries have stuffed him up real bad, particularly with the quality of his disposal (which was never a strength to begin with).

      Still taking a punt on him because he wouldn't be the worst M9 to loophole when he does score well. Best case scenario he makes a bit of $$. Heck of a bigger ceiling than your Myers et al if you're forced cover someone.

    wombatsfc · 30/05/2017 at 20:47

    In 2012 he ave 104 over 22 games and was the 18th highest scoring SC player.
    In 2013 he ave 103.8 over 18 games and was 80th highest SC scorer despite missing those games
    In 2014 his starting price was 559K but injuries only allowed 12 at an ave of 80
    2015 his worst year ever 12 games @ 57 (sub rule?)
    Only 3 games last year coz he was leaving

    He's definately worth the punt and there's more chance of him scoring over 80 than under 80. I'm not worried about a lockdown on Sloane he scored 102 playing a lockdown on Bont. Bont had his worst game of the year with 81

    Derek · 30/05/2017 at 22:15

    The question is why do you want to spend $281k on a player?

    Won't make enough cash quickly enough. Best going with the cheapies

      Austin · 30/05/2017 at 22:34

      Right on Derek! When you're priced more than twice that of a typical rookie it doesn't take much to go wrong for it to end up being a dud pick. Just look no further than JOM or Swallow.

        Stanks21 · 30/05/2017 at 23:03

        Difference is… JOM and Swallow are shit haha one injury plagued and the other is not going to be anywhere near his best again

      SCdonkey · 30/05/2017 at 22:51

      You give me a Rookie that's worth bringing in with a solid JS that will play week in week out.

      The berg? Injury riddled
      Bolton? Like the guys said in the podcast Tigers seem to be rotating their small fowards
      Perryman hasn't set the world on fire in his two games plus a whole lot of players to come back in.
      Lloyd hmmm!! Probably won't get a game this week

        Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 16:01

        Lloyd will play with all the outs GWS have. Richmond really like Bolton and I think they'll give him an extended run. Someone has to go out for Butler but I suspect Castagna or Sam Lloyd might be first on the block. They played Rioli all of last year.

          SCdonkey · 31/05/2017 at 16:18

          Doubt it mate with Tom Scully, Steve Johnson, Rory Lobb and Tendai Mzungu are expected to come in this week.

      wombatsfc · 31/05/2017 at 14:19

      The price for players after round 9 is the same Derek, they all cost a trade.
      The answer to your question is I need an 18th player on field and the choices are a rookie tiger who might play 3 more games for the year and make 100k whilst scoring 50 each week or a proven midfielder likely to go 80+ each week and make the same cash in the same time.

      So then the question becomes: Do I want to spend a trade to make 100k +150 points over the bye rounds or do I want to spend a trade to make 100k and 300 points over the bye rounds?

    Hoot · 30/05/2017 at 22:46

    Prob best to get onto the TooSerious player calculator and punch in the SC scores you honestly expect to get from him in the coming weeks. If the combination of points and increased value is to your liking then it has to be a yes. I dont think its a straight yes or no. Putting a sub 100 player at M8 now (at a bargain) and invest the dollars elsewhere could be a smart move for many coaches.

    Tommo09 · 31/05/2017 at 07:31

    I think he will probably keep up his tackling while he is tagging
    Anytime Sloane goes near the ball, BANG. Smash
    I don't think he will get tonnes in the next two weeks but I'm happy with a solid 80

    Valens_FC · 31/05/2017 at 13:22

    If he goes 100, 100 he will generate about $110k cash in those 2 weeks. If he goes 80, 80 it will be about $85k over the next 2 weeks. In the context of this season, that is acceptable especially as there is no issue on JS, albeit there is significant injury risk.

    Personally I don't think this can be a pure cash generation play, it has to be on the assumption of holding because you don't believe you will be able to afford to buy remaining premos needed by the end of the byes – a "compromise premo" if you will. If it works out and you still have trades then the option will be there to upgrade – or hold him as an M9 as others have said. If it doesn't work out I'm not sure the risk is much different to one of the rookies who gets a few games then gets dropped leaving you short of optimal cash generation – and worse still, with no points. Rookies are really tough this season, even Greenwood you can't say has solid JS.

    Tirade Offern · 31/05/2017 at 13:30

    This is amazing stuff .
    Still for me it gets down to $286k is a bargain for M9 (post Byes). If I don't get him this week the price jumps will stop me even taking a punt on him. A punt on him in form and fit over a punt on a rookie seems fine. Even if he just gets at least 60 over the byes I should still be ahead.
    or
    I may just get Robbie Gray and take the punt he holds together….and still hope for 60 over the byes.

    What am I saying?….Go Scooter Go you good thing

Stirlsy · 30/05/2017 at 18:11

Jock did you get on that dog i tipped you last Friday???

    jockreynolds · 30/05/2017 at 18:49

    Nah mate did she get up?! haa

      Stirlsy · 30/05/2017 at 22:14

      Yeah paid 4.30 classic name Dangerwood, that was a heat and semi's this week but will be really short this week.

Mike · 30/05/2017 at 18:14

Will newman hit his BE of 80 or trade.

WHEN will B Eddy get a game next ppl

    MickyB · 30/05/2017 at 18:21

    Eddy is a trade to greenwood or bolton
    Im considering trading newman

    Josh Kelly · 30/05/2017 at 20:10

    Eddy will probably play this week

      TheGreatBozza · 30/05/2017 at 21:01

      Ken confirmed no changes due to the magoos having a short turnaround.

      I'm holding Eddy with the hope he can get back in. He's kicking goals in the magoos

        Defying_Madness · 30/05/2017 at 21:11

        He also said more mid time for Robbie

          TheGreatBozza · 30/05/2017 at 22:11

          Could be an absolute bargain

          daz · 30/05/2017 at 22:31

          when and where was this heard?

        Top Gun · 31/05/2017 at 19:20

        Give Eddy the flick. Not even named as an emergency so that means there are at least three players ahead of him

    Derek · 30/05/2017 at 22:02

    Newman won't hit his BE this week, guaranteed.

    Eddy will need someone at port to get injured. Monfries isn't far away.

    SC17 · 31/05/2017 at 20:55

    Looking to keep Newman through the byes then upgrading him to a premium.

Will · 30/05/2017 at 18:38

Sloane or Pendles?

    jez_m · 30/05/2017 at 18:59

    Flip a coin. Pendles for mine.

    Danners · 30/05/2017 at 21:42

    DePendlebury

    Derek · 30/05/2017 at 22:00

    I'm getting both this week

    SF4 · 30/05/2017 at 22:27

    Pendles

Chris · 30/05/2017 at 18:38

Is it worth getting S.Selwood as an M9?

    zilla · 30/05/2017 at 18:43

    yes

      john · 30/05/2017 at 19:41

      yes

    Danners · 30/05/2017 at 21:42

    If you have plenty of trades, yes

    Derek · 30/05/2017 at 21:59

    No. You want your M9 to have DPP

      Northerner · 31/05/2017 at 05:52

      Agree Derek. Taranto firming nicely for that role. Greenwood might push him out if he keeps up current output. But they would make a good mid fwd combo

      tirade offern · 31/05/2017 at 13:59

      m10 and/or m11 will work for dpp' s too obviously

      Gogetem · 31/05/2017 at 18:38

      Or your F7

    Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 13:06

    A lot of tag roles coming up, I reckon you could do better elsewhere

    Top Gun · 31/05/2017 at 19:20

    See the 1000's of comments up ^^^^^^^^^^^

ITCANTBT · 30/05/2017 at 18:58

Greene or Lynch?

    SF4 · 30/05/2017 at 22:27

    Greene

    Josh Kelly · 30/05/2017 at 23:31

    My boy Tobias Greene is a must

      Jack · 01/06/2017 at 12:45

      You going to north Melbourne?

Don't Blush Baby · 30/05/2017 at 19:01

Ross Lying indicated today – I paraphrase – first year ruckman Sean Darcy and mature age draftee Luke Ryan are in the selection mix this week

ITCANTBT · 30/05/2017 at 19:09

Why are people considering trading Barrett? Great scores and a BE of 12

    SC_Kev7 · 30/05/2017 at 19:14

    Probably because he has his bye this week. I agree, been great recently. Though that might have something to do with Rocky's absence

    Stanks21 · 30/05/2017 at 19:28

    Because Rocky will be back soon… which means barretts time in the MID will decline a lot.

    ProTravo · 31/05/2017 at 09:40

    Scott Selwood. That's why.

SC_Kev7 · 30/05/2017 at 19:16

Tinkering with lineups for the Draftstars comp and… yeah, it's not looking great. Hopefully Ryan gets the nod for a cheapie down back

    jockreynolds · 30/05/2017 at 19:30

    Tough contest Kev – we absolutely need to identify some value.

    P_J_Higgo · 30/05/2017 at 19:43

    Hello SC_Kev7,
    I will be releasing my findings on Thursday via a new weekly JR Academy Special Ops. Post. At this stage in my forecasting the player representing greatest value is Aaron Sandilands. Will he play? I am not sure. If he does he is priced at a my value rating of $127.10 per point. I am really looking forward to this great challenge that Jock has bestowed upon me – this shall be quite a challenge.
    Kind regards,
    Peter

      jockreynolds · 30/05/2017 at 19:46

      $127.10 per point. Your mathematical brain staggers my Higg. Gagging for Thursday mate. I keep wrestling with the same conundrum in the daily form.. go with a team you reckon represents the best value & bang for buck.. or go with a point of difference team to split you apart from the pack?

        P_J_Higgo · 30/05/2017 at 19:57

        Interesting, Jock.
        The stunning reality of Daily Fantasy is that in order to put oneself in contention to win, one must be prepared to lose. This means that entrenched within your selection criteria must be a degree of difference based on which way you foresee the metaphoric herd heading.
        These higher level concepts will be teased out in due course.

      SC_Kev7 · 30/05/2017 at 19:47

      Looking forward it it, Higgo. Under 10k Shaz picks himself. Don't mind de goey in the mids and Broomhead up forward

        jockreynolds · 30/05/2017 at 19:48

        You could almost.. sweep the field.. with Broomhead Kev. Thank you.

          SC_Kev7 · 30/05/2017 at 19:58

          Boom tish!

    LoganJosh7 · 31/05/2017 at 11:06

    How come it excludes SA residents? Just curious 🙂 never played it before…

      SC_Kev7 · 31/05/2017 at 11:36

      Not sure, Logan. Something on the Draftstars side of things. Different gambling laws in each state if I had to guess

      Stephen · 01/06/2017 at 11:15

      i live in SA and let me pick a team, do we not win the prize if in Adel?

        jockreynolds · 01/06/2017 at 11:21

        Yeah it's gambling legislation fellas – Draftstars can't promote free contests for prizemoney in SA & NSW

Richard · 30/05/2017 at 19:19

Forward line carnage this week ?

    SF4 · 30/05/2017 at 22:29

    Yep, have Heeney, Buddy, Dahl and Macrae all out, luckily I have coverage but it's not great, i.e Parsons, Bolton and Greenwood.

    JEL · 31/05/2017 at 00:09

    Doesn't matter. So long as you can get 18 bodies on field, regardless of position.

TigerNut · 30/05/2017 at 19:21

I heard Dimma Hardwick say in a press conference that young Tyson Stengle (Fwd) is a ''good player'' and he'll get a run at some stage. The Tigers have rotated their small forward options a bit this year and I see Shai Bolton''s job security for the short term good. But not for the long term. In saying that Bolton could be a good pick to get through the byes and a handy swing option. For anyone considering Bolton

    SC_Kev7 · 30/05/2017 at 19:57

    Stengle on the rookie list, Tiger. I think we've got 2-3 spots open to elevate him.

    ProTravo · 31/05/2017 at 11:13

    I have Butler and want to bring in Bolton. I am interested in Tiger supporters thoughts on the job security of the small forwards.
    Do you see Bolton going out if Butler comes in this week? Why do you think Bolton has good short term JS and do you think he will be in the side after the round 12 bye?

JOHNO · 30/05/2017 at 19:40

OUT Walker ($389,400)INGreenwood ($117,300)
OUT Heppell ($510,200)INSelwood ($281,800)

    ITCANTBT · 30/05/2017 at 19:48

    Hold Heppell

    Stanks21 · 30/05/2017 at 19:51

    Dont trade heppell…..

    ToughBretts · 31/05/2017 at 10:11

    That second trade is the definition of a waste

    LoganJosh7 · 31/05/2017 at 11:07

    terrible trades

    Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 11:08

    Get back up and try again.

bUCKET__ · 30/05/2017 at 19:41

Might do Sandi to Sloane this week.

Days before lockout I swapped Witts + Sloane for Sandi + Heater. Looked safer at the time. Ah well! Everyone has a 'coulda shoulda' moment at the start of each season.

Jeffreyhead · 30/05/2017 at 20:00

Going bang this week – newman to mcgovern, Florent to s. Selwood, spp to jelwood.
Can anyone tell me this is a good plan?

    TOPHAWK1 · 30/05/2017 at 20:05

    That is a scary, very scary plan. All your trade ins will be having a bye holiday next week. That said having not seen your team, you might need bye players next week to help you with an oversupply of rd 13 bye players. Good luck mate.

TOPHAWK1 · 30/05/2017 at 20:24

G'day community!

As always, a ripper podcast by Jock, Higgo, and Crouching one.

Rules are made to be broken.

I am not buying into this triple downgrade stuff this week. There is only ONE must have rookie this week. Hugh Greenwood.

Sorry Higgo, but I am not trading out Barrett or Berry this week. Their BE's are 12 and 36 respectively. Warm bodies, great job security, and more cash to be made after their rest this week. There is no real urgency on Cousins and Scharenberg. Not yet on the bubble. WATCH this week.

Bolton and Perryman are not must have rooks IMO. Bolton has the bye next week and Perryman has not shown enough to justify a trade.

As such, I am going ONE down and 2 UP this week.

Hugh Greenwood, Scott Pendlebury and either Tom J Lynch or Ollie Wines are coming into my side this week. The latter is a toss up.

Cheers.

(Subject to no unexpected selections/omissions/late withdrawals)

    SCdonkey · 30/05/2017 at 22:36

    Those are solid picks TH, i agree with ya TH triple downgrade is just not worth it with all the Rookies we have on offer apart from Greenwood which i already have him in my team. I'm only gonna take one rookie(depends on team annoucement) this week, Selwood and will have to burn a trade on JJK pending the injury status.

    I like Wines for POD factor, So long you have 3 or 4 of Danger, Sloane, Pendle, Bont and Jelwood in your team.

      murray · 31/05/2017 at 09:53

      go wines Tophawk, not Lynch. Wines will be a lot more consistent

      murray · 31/05/2017 at 09:54

      agree with you also SC donkey

    murray · 31/05/2017 at 09:52

    agreed tophalk, Greenwood is the only downgrade for me also, agree with all you analysis on the other rookies. I am also liking the prospects of Wines, even before it was mentioned in the podcast, he has had his bye, the only premo of 469k averaging 103 and is a contested beast. Get him whilst you can as he is going to soar over the 500k very quickly and stay there IMHO
    To get Wines though I might have to trade Roughead (haw) or Sandi if not named again (loophole with Nank)

    Dean · 31/05/2017 at 23:19

    Triple downgrade is the way to go if you're low on cash and know what your doing.

    However that being said Tophawk what you're doing is a great selection of trades because you are only bringing the ONE prmo that has yet to have his bye (Pendles) who has a very low B/E

    Those who are bringing the likes of Sloane & Pendles or numerous other premo's that have not had their bye is seriously absurd.

    I think Bolton has good J/S – He was in most of out teams prior to the season proper starting REMEMBER.
    However Re: Perryman I agree he surely has very poor JS especially considering GWS injury list, a few will be returning sooner rather then later.

      Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 23:34

      The only reason anyone in the pre-season would've had Bolton in their side is cause he's cheap and a DPP, no one would've known then if he'd get a game or not..and no one knows whether he'll get another game or not, the guy is seriously undersized for AFL…(70kg, 175 cm tall, 18 years old). He's certainly not a lock in rookie this week, or next.

ITCANTBT · 30/05/2017 at 20:32

Balic to Greenwood
Taranto to Greene or Lynch?
SPP to Scooter or Cousins?

    TOPHAWK1 · 30/05/2017 at 20:45

    Hold Heppell

      ITCANTBT · 30/05/2017 at 21:11

      Thanks mate

Tommo09 · 30/05/2017 at 20:40

OUT Kennedy Balic
IN Mumford S.Selwood

May end up going Eddy to Bolton if Eddy not named and Bolton is due to being able to field 18

Thoughts community???

    SF4 · 30/05/2017 at 23:37

    Have you already got Greenwood?
    Those 2 trades are good ones.

      Tommo09 · 31/05/2017 at 07:26

      Yes I got him last week

    Lachy · 31/05/2017 at 01:02

    no

      Tommo09 · 31/05/2017 at 07:26

      What do you suggest then

Eve · 30/05/2017 at 20:50

19 trades 27k. Trade candidates for this week?
Need help to field best side.
DEF: Adams, Shaw, Tuohy, Otten, Marchbank, Newmann (Berry, Hibberd)
MED: Danger, Pendles, JJK, Fyfe, Merrett, Beams, Taranto, P-Pepper (Balic, Myers, Barrett)
RUC: Nank, Martin (Sandi)
FWD: JJK, Buddy, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughy, Parsons (Eddy, Strnadica)

    WhatsaFtumch · 31/05/2017 at 10:38

    Balic to Greenwood

    Barrett to S Selwood,

    JJK (FWD) to Yeo

    Tirade Offern · 31/05/2017 at 13:42

    perhaps JJK, Taranto and Barrett out. Bring in Wallis, Wines and Scooter?

Adam · 30/05/2017 at 21:03

OUT Balic, Pederson, Pickett
IN SSelwood, Greenwood, Sloan

Will be bringing in Scharenberg & Cousins after the bye, straight swap Newman to Lloyd and I'll be just about done.

bob the builder · 30/05/2017 at 21:04

Trading to Cousins and Greenwood.

Trade 2 out of Eddy, Balic and Fisher??

    Ja191 · 30/05/2017 at 22:06

    Eddy and Balic simply cause they're not playing

      David · 31/05/2017 at 11:29

      Eddy might play

Danners · 30/05/2017 at 21:49

Another ripping podcast Jock and crew! Wondering where Wayno has gone? Is he doing Year 12 or something? Probably need some of his hot tips around about now. But anyway, won't be buying into Scooter this week, the fear of the tag, and he is a midpriced player. Save the $160k and go a rookie.
I'm not having the best season so I am trying to get the big guns starting with Sloane this week leaving me with 2 Def ,1 Mid, 1 Ruck, and 1 Fwd premo to get. Probably be looking at doing
Fisher to Sloane
Balic to Bolton
Had $445k in the bank, and it would be $155k after these trades. I already have Greenwood.
Thoughts?

    Steeeve · 30/05/2017 at 22:10

    I think he's doing year 7 mate. Fifth time lucky!

    TOPHAWK1 · 30/05/2017 at 22:20

    He is not doing year 12 stuff mate….I heard he is actually in the clink! Seems he has been a naughty boy.

    Wait till team announcements before deciding on those trade options.

    Cheers

      Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 10:39

      Yeah, jock said something to that effect over a month ago…

Daz · 30/05/2017 at 22:09

I like the talk about Ollie- it looks like the knee knock was against WC? did he cop mitch robbo the week before in Bris? Im tossing up to go either this man, rockcliff or Bont ( in a few rounds) to finsh my mids, I feel ollie could nearly avg as much as bont and then the glass cannon rocky who you will get some outrageous scores from who will avg more but carries a large risk and is 130k more than ollie, just so torn!!! Do we think ollie can avg 110 for the rest of the season? if so I'm keen.

Will · 30/05/2017 at 22:25

Sloane this week or Rockliff next?

    Clarence · 30/05/2017 at 23:11

    With a dodgy shoulder I think Rocky is a no go zone for now. Could easily pop out again and you will be kicking yourself that you had advanced warning but ignored it. Would wanna make sure he could at least lay fierce tackles before I'd be bringing him in.

    Josh Kelly · 30/05/2017 at 23:45

    Tom Rockliff for sure! In his last 4 seasons post round 10, he's averaging a whopping 128.04, he always has a great history late in seasons and I'd back him for a 5th consecutive season to finish off very strong, I know there is an injury risk but his scoring outweighs the injury risk by a lot, and only ever seems to get injured early & towards mid-season, never missed consecutive games late in the season for a while now!

      Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 01:52

      I'd be tempted to get rid of Rocky if I had him, history schmistory, he's got a fkd up shoulder, and is in a team that's a pile of swill.

      Shoulder could give way at any time, there are many other good mid options coming good now.

        Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 10:47

        Shoulder agree. Doesn't matter he's in a rubbish scoring team, Brisbane have been rubbish for ages and Rocky an SC gun regardless. If his shoulder is stuffed I will trade him out, but I've held to check. Low BE, so I think non-owners are going to have to make a call sight unseen or be willing and able to pay well over $600k for him…Given the lower priced JPK, Dusty, Jelwood, Pendles, Sloane and even Bont I don't think you non-owners should be taking the injury risk on board.

Defying_Madness · 30/05/2017 at 22:28

I really want Pendles this week but I only have 16 playing in round 13. Maybe I should just go for Selwood but I feel like Pendles might be a must have

    TOPHAWK1 · 30/05/2017 at 22:46

    If you really want Pendles, then get him in! You have 9 trades going into the byes.

    Having 9 trades means the byes are a "Mini Super coach" within itself.

    You just have to manage the risks and your team.

    Cheers

      Defying_Madness · 30/05/2017 at 23:41

      I only have 15 trades remaining though, might be safer to just get Joel. For now I think i will just wait for team selections as I have Eddy and Balic.

        Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 10:50

        15 is a lot more than I……if there was a few non-rnd13 rookies it would be nice….if not just roll some switcheroo trades into the likes of Bont, Wallis, JPK and take a full 6 trades into the back end of the season. If you are full premo by then I think that is enough.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 30/05/2017 at 23:47

      Yeah bugger it been tossing around pendles or sloane for last mid spot.
      Welcome pies rolls royce. MR DEPENDLEBURY.

      Mid now done:
      Danger, selwood, pendles, titch, bont, JPK, Treloar and Fyfe.
      Got 4 out rd 13 but not gonna get pendles any cheaper.
      Was gonna wait till after his bye but have cash so time to buy is now.
      And besides pendles rd 11,12 should score better than a rookie playing two rounds 12,13.

B.T · 30/05/2017 at 22:33

Scooter to tag Sloanedog this week, not much of a problem. scooter knows how to find the footy whilst tagging and provides good pressure. I wouldn't be worried and believe he will still be good for a good score.

    Tommo09 · 31/05/2017 at 07:32

    Tackling numbers could go up
    Sloane is never too far away from the ball and that means lots of tackles for Scooter

    Pitch 72 · 31/05/2017 at 07:44

    Big problem mate, you said it yourself, Scooter is a tagger, wouldn't rely on this blokes tackling ability to get a half decent score, big trap imo.

Dean · 30/05/2017 at 23:38

I do like what Scott Selwood has done thus far however its not out of the ordinary for him to start the season off well and then taper off to average 70's to 80's and this is my greatest concern.

My current defence is: Laird, Shaw, McGrath, Hampton, Stewart, EVW (Marchbank, Newman)

I'm strongly deliberating whether I go:
OPTION 1 – R11
Marchbank to Scharenberg
Fisher to Greenwood
Pepper to Selwood
Leaves me with $364,500

Then in round R12
Newman to Docherty
McGrath to Roberton
Leaves me with $21,700

OPTION 2 – R11
Marchbank to Scharenberg
Fisher to Greenwood
Pepper to Bolton
Leaves me with $529,000

R12
Newman to Docherty
McGrath to Roberton
Leaves me with $168,800

R14
Shaw to Adams
Hampton to Lloyd
NOTE: I will need to find another $50,000 to do the above two trades but that shouldn't be a problem.
That will then see me one Midfielder Short – Where I will look to bring in Jelwood, Zerritt or Neal in Round 15
as I will need to generate cash in order to bring in my last premo.

The upside about bringing S-Selwood in now is that he should reach $400k by the end of round 13 – So it will only take $150k to $200k to upgrade to a ultra premo midfield such as Jelwood, Zerritt or Neale.

The downside is if I bring S-Selwood in now, it will leave my Defence with two Ultra Premo's short, because I don't class Shaw as a Ultra Premo thus far this season.

Your thoughts and suggestions are appreciated

    Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 02:16

    Too complicated for me…if you took the time to write all that confusing diatribe, then you should already know what to do, just listen to your initial gut instinct and try not to over analyse it. Maybe trial it by trading them in and then reversing accordingly until it looks ok.

    Posts that long and detailed with too many options, does people's heads in. It did, mine…we're not Women, who tend to over analyse everything and need clarification on every little detail, we're guys, who prefer it short, sharp and to the point.
    No offence…but learn how to shorten your stuff.

      Dean · 31/05/2017 at 17:16

      Russty it would have been a lot easier to just ignore my entire post and say nothing mate.
      No offence but you seem like a very bitter individual and I won't lower myself to your standards Re: Woman and so forth.

      It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

        Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 20:52

        Yeah I know Dean I probably should've ignored it but I was honestly trying to help, tried to read it 3 times and it still didn't make sense, talking about what you're going to be doing in round 11, 12 and 14?…sorry it just did by head in with it's verbosity.
        Not bitter about anything mate..and I'm certainly not a misogynist as you alluded to, (which I don't appreciate).

        Here's a cliche quote from someone else for you mate, as you saw fit to throw one at me…"A bird in hand, is worth 2 in the bush".

      Jack · 01/06/2017 at 09:11

      Oh my god Russty_ you are a disgrace to the supercoach community, a low life individual who talks big game behind the computer in your parents house but really anything over 900 for you in the byes is a win for you…. stop trolling

    The Ranger · 31/05/2017 at 06:55

    Option 2 Dean but I don't see Bolton as a must have.
    Maybe look at a non playing DPP loophole player for later in the season.

      Dean · 31/05/2017 at 18:26

      Cheers mate, yeah leading this way at the moment anyway.

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 08:20

    SSelwood will be a case of after the byes, you'll say, why do I have SSelwood?

      Dean · 31/05/2017 at 18:25

      That's what im concerned about due to being this late in the season. Had it of been earlier in the season then it's a no brainier. Decisions, Decisions.

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 08:38

    Newman this week and pepper next week

    Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 11:00

    Having your full team there would be useful (and longer, sorry Rusty, some of us like the details….). I just can't go past not only the potential points and cash gen that scooter presents. Gives you either, 1 a stepping stone to a premo defender or 2 (best case scenario) a 3rd premo mid or 3, very valuable M9 for injury cover. I'm leaning to option 1 as I think Scooter is a better pick than all the non-greenwood rookies.

      Dean · 31/05/2017 at 18:20

      Randomcliche2 Appreciate your reply mate. This is my current team.

      DEF: Laird, Shaw, McGrath, Hampton, Stewart, EVW (Marchbank, Newman)
      MID: Sloane, Danger, Titch, Pendles, Bont, Heppell, Fyfe, Pepper (Myers, Barrett, Fisher)
      RUCK: Martin, Sandilands (Stradica)
      FWD: Yeo, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Nank, Franklin, Heeney (Parsons, Eddy)

      I do agree with you about Selwood, however his price makes it difficult for my team to become full premo by round 15 at the very latest.

        Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 21:25

        I'd focus on that M8 position. I think you might need to run shaw a bit longer. I see 4 defensive upgrades and one mid. Doc Adams Roberton and Lloyd (rnd 14) are all good targets. The M8 position filled perhaps Wines/Gray this week. Just remember that each week that cash is on the bench it could have been a premo on field given the presence of premo PA/GCS post bye players. Scooter to make more cash than Bolton? I've mapped trades and values out to rnd 15 to make sure I can afford full premo, it seems challenging but it's doable. Give it a shot.

          Dean · 31/05/2017 at 23:52

          Cheers mate appreciate the feedback.

          For example Bolton is projected to reach $229k by round 15 – that's a $112k increase.
          Scooter is projected to reach $427k by round 15 – that's a $145k increase.
          So we are talking about a cash generation difference of approximately $33k favouring Scooter going by their current averages, I don't see Scooter averaging anywhere near 107 – I see him averaging between 90 and 95 at best.

          Bolton has a average of 55 – with these cheap rookies all they need is the one game to score 80+ and that sky rockets their price or cash generation, so IF Bolton does end up scoring a 80+ prior to round 15 then his cash generation will be greater then Scooter's and I personally feel there is more chance of Bolton scoring a 80+ then Scooter continuing to score 100+

          So going by averages Bolton most likely will not make as much cash as Scooter however to purchase Scooter its going to cost you almost 2.5 times the amount of what Bolton costs, which then effects bringing other premo's in sooner.

          It all depends on your bye structure and if it's going to effect your initial plans and in my case it will unfortunately.

    wombatsfc · 01/06/2017 at 01:01

    Too may options and not enough research Dean it WOULD be out of the ordinary for scooter to start well then taper off
    Rounds 1-9 in 2012:- 104, 152,145,94,111,139,75,106,71 he had six more tons (4 over 130) including a 155 tagging Judd in round 12
    Rounds 1-9 in 2013:- 81-tagging fyffe, 74,121, 128-tagging Smurph, 101-tagging boak, 110,111,54 tagging wells,91 tagging ward he had 6 more tons 2 ninety+ and an 87 for rest of year
    Rounds 1-8 in 2014 (injury limited him to only 4 more games that year:- 114,70,111,78tagging boak,86tagging smurph,71tagging fyffe, 115
    In 2015 injury a being the sub for 4 of his 12 games screwed things up but he still managed 2 tons and 5 scores above 78

      Dean · 01/06/2017 at 18:28

      Wombat cheers m8

      I appreciate your feedback however I cannot see Scooter averaging 100 which he need's to do, he is currently averaging 107 and if you believe he will continue to average 100+ then you're a very brave man. I cannot see him averaging more than 95 come season end and that's enough research for me as the vast majority of research is going into my team.

      I need to cash in on a few of my fattened rookies such as Marchbank, Newman, Hampton & Fisher in order to generate at least $500k in round 11
      So I can then bring in Docherty, Roberton & Simpson in round 12 and then look to bring in Lloyd in round 13 or 14 along with swapping Shaw to Adams.

      If I bring in Selwood this week that just stuffs up my whole plan as I wont have enough cash. Something I cannot afford to risk as I would rather have my defence filled up with the top averaging Premo's as opposed to bringing in a midpriced midfielder and hoping for the best which will leave my defence short of a premo.

      If I had to leave my defence a premo short for a couple of extra weeks say until Round 16 which I am contemplating then I would prefer to turn Pepper into Jelwood or Hanners or JPK in round 12

DavidSA · 31/05/2017 at 07:02

Triple downgrade $666,700 in the bank

Next week

Mcrgrath > Mont
Berry > Bont
Parsons > T.Greene

Gives me full premium team but….. Fyfe and Shiel are my two biggest failures

    DavidSA · 31/05/2017 at 07:05

    Thinking JPK over Bont atm now for 10k cheaper

Paul · 31/05/2017 at 07:06

Hi community need some help now ranked about 6k and have 100k in the bank, 19 trades remaining
My team currently

Adams, laird, Johaniesen( scharenberg)
Hibberd, shaw, Newman( Stewart)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, t. Mitchell, Hannerbery
Treleor, Merrett, Taranto, SPP
( Myers, fisher, Barrett )

Grundy, Sandilands
(Strandica)

McRae, Dalhaus, JJK(eddy)
Nankervis, Roughead, Hoskin(parsons)

Thanks community

    DavidSA · 31/05/2017 at 07:13

    Barrett > Cousins
    WHE > Greenwood
    Fisher > Bolten – this one not a must but the triple downgrade and swing with greenwood is valid

    Next week should be fun for selecting Port, GC, Saints, Sydney, WB or Carlton players

      Kyle · 31/05/2017 at 12:52

      Barrett set to make quite a bit mor cash. Would avoid trading him

jamie · 31/05/2017 at 07:43

what to do about nick riewoldt, has he just about had it with his knees?
i have the feeling that he is going to miss a lot of footy and at best not score to his potential due to injuries this season.

could be the week for me to trade him out as i only have 17 scoring players (18 with mutimer if selected)..
already have macrae, higgins, nank, buddy, steele.

thinking toby greene?

Mark · 31/05/2017 at 08:05

Thoughts on Ollie Wines as an M8?

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 08:36

    Wines is a good pick. Will play next 3 games, big tick. Next game is against the Hawks, they give up a lot of contested ball. He is good value and might be the purchase you need to make to save cash for a premium elsewhere

      Keenbutclueless · 31/05/2017 at 09:36

      I agree with Derek. If he averages 105 for the last 13 games, then 1365. If you have a premium who averages 110 for 12 games that's 1320. Add the rookie who plays then that's around the same number. So, in effect, he only has to average 105 to be equal to a full premium. At 465k that's great value.

      Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 10:42

      I'm already full premo mid….so Fyfe to Wines? (Rnd 13 is sktechy at best, so useful)…. Your thoughts?

        Da_Boysh · 31/05/2017 at 14:57

        thinking the same.. Fyfe is not living up to expectations.. I have full premo mid though so i think trade elsewhere for now

    Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 13:10

    Timing is perfect, price is unders and he's a good player, Great pick up

Juggers · 31/05/2017 at 08:14

SPP to Cousins
Balic to Greenwood
Taranto to Greene
Leaves 200k for next week

    wightyswarriors · 31/05/2017 at 22:02

    SPP has had the bye…why trade him ??

Derek · 31/05/2017 at 08:35

Plan was to triple downgrade this week and then go Wooshka. Again, the lack of Rookie options is a problem.

If I go three down will get Greenwood, Bolton and perryman. Out will be Newman, Barrett and Preuss. This will give me $870k.

$870k seems far to much in bank, plus rookie options not great.

I can get Greenwood, Pendlebury and Sloane this week and have no cash. Docherty a priority next week.

I'm worried about Sloane getting the Selwood tag this week, I'm worried about rookie downgrade options next week and I worry about going early on Sloane and Pendles before their byes.

Wines might be a better option than Sloane?

    SCdonkey · 31/05/2017 at 09:40

    If I had that option to go to Greenwood, Pendlebury and Sloane, i wouldn't think twice. Unless you don't have enough cover for Rd 13 bye.

    I wouldn't worry too much on Selwood tagging Sloane, I'd be more worried Sloane tagging Dangemouse like he did last year.

      Derek · 31/05/2017 at 10:44

      My round 13 is ok.

      The rookies are a concern. I don't mind Perryman because of his DPP. I'll be trading out McGrath and Berry soon so a DEF/MID swinger on bench will be important.

    TOPHAWK1 · 31/05/2017 at 09:41

    I am also going to break away from protocol this week. There are just too many fallen premo picks at hand and a lack of quality bubble rookies at the moment. (Pendlebury, Wines, Robbie Gray, Bontempelli just to name a few)

    I am going one down and two up. Greenwood comes in as well as Pendlebury and either Wines, Robbie Gray or Tom J Lynch. Will have around 10K left after theses trades. Who would you pick out of those three blokes I am still stewing over?

    I think Scooter will be going to Sloane this week. Geelong know they have to shut him down in order to win the match. I am targeting Sloane after his bye BUT only if he can get on top of the taggers. I would think Wines or Robbie Gray is a nice bye play at incredible value and hopefully start producing premo output from here.

    Cheers

      Derek · 31/05/2017 at 10:46

      Out of that lot I would pick Wines. The value is just too good.

      I keep looking at SMitch as well.

    Shake n bake · 31/05/2017 at 09:53

    All the guys u want in Derek have that rd 13 buy. Even if you can cover that l wouldn't do it. Greenwood yes l went early with greenwood picked him up in his 1st game took that risk. Maybe a shark move Derek something you think might pay off. Your team will start looking like everybody else because im sure a lot of teams in front of you will look at Pendels & Slone after rd 13 who don't have them. If you go with your trades hope I'm up against you rd 13 haha.

      Derek · 31/05/2017 at 10:40

      Good point about making my team look like everyone else's.

      I have to get Docherty next week, I'm sick of watching him score 120's.

      Maybe I pass on Sloane. He has a big target on him now

        Rick Grimes · 31/05/2017 at 12:58

        I'm going to hold off on Sloane until I'm certain he can handle the tag. No doubt one of my premiums will go down before season end and I can always jump on him then if he's absolutely essential.

    neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 13:22

    Bont is surely a must have even more so than Sloane or pendles Only two sub par games and flies home Priddis is another to look at also We play each other in Agraders this week On top but your team looks unbeatable also play sassy and Tophawk in trigs and cashy so not looking good

      Derek · 31/05/2017 at 16:25

      my team is coming together. had a horrible start with 3 sub 2k scores in first 4 weeks, and i didn't even have Lobbe this year.

      Just backed the wrong Premiums.

      i very carefully planned for the byes, so i should have 21 play this week, 22 next week and 20 in round 13.

      I need a few wins and hopefully make the finals and cause some problems then

        Dean · 31/05/2017 at 18:46

        Derek I personally won't bring in premo's that haven't had their bye, I just don't see the point although granted guns like Sloane & Pendles have extremely low B/E so I see your logic behind it.

        I find starting with players predominantly Pendles is a must as there scores week to week can't be ignored and the same applies with Sloane, im glad I started with them.

        Those who wanted Sloane should have picked him up after round 9 – I prefer to downgrade in the first week of the byes.

Sam · 31/05/2017 at 09:01

Should i go Parfitt to Wines, which would leave me with 150k, and bring in Doch for Newman next week

or

Parfitt to Selwood, which only leaves me with 75k, and would make it much harder to bring in Doch, would probably wait for Lloyds price to drop.

    Stanks21 · 31/05/2017 at 09:21

    1st choice
    But depends on what MID position wines takes

      Sam · 31/05/2017 at 09:23

      Well he would be my M7, but he will be my M8 come end of bye rounds

        Stanks21 · 31/05/2017 at 09:25

        Go for it then.

        Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 11:01

        Agreed, Doc is the boss.

    Dean · 31/05/2017 at 18:49

    Get Wines now & Doc next week. You can figure out a way to bring in Selwood after his bye mate.

Tommy · 31/05/2017 at 09:45

Which option? First trade is locked in, Hampton – Scharenberg
Option 1: Fisher and Parfitt – Cousins and Wines/Jelwood (leaves me with 637k BEFORE i bring in one of the mid premos
Option 2: Parfitt and Hampton – Cousins and Perryman (leaves me with 700k)
Option 3: Parfitt and Fisher – Cousins and S Selwood (leaves me with 356k)

I know the premo option is probably the best, but after listening to the podcast, thinking i maybe i should set myself up for next week
which one?

    Kyle · 31/05/2017 at 12:47

    Next week is the easiest bye to cover mate. I tend to disagree with the boys in saying 3 down this week. If you can bring in a premo like jelwood i would do it this week. Im bringing him in this week.

    Dean · 31/05/2017 at 19:26

    I personally believe its absurd bringing in Elite Premo's prior to their bye round, we have had all this time and now you're wanting to bring in these Premo's – I cannot understand the logic.

    Also if I were you I would wait on bringing in TWO rookies that have had only the one game, I can understand doing it with one like Scharenberg as he was one of my first rookies selected prior to the season starting. I presume you have already selected Shai Bolton from Richmond who is a MID/FWD?

    I wouldn't be bringing in Cousins in just yet mate.

    wightyswarriors · 31/05/2017 at 22:05

    Why Hampton to berg this week..what if berg cops an injury ?

Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 11:02

Does anyone have access to center bounce stats that can tell me if there has been a drop off by Macrae in the last two weeks with Wallis returning?

Thanks in advance!

    waynesworld · 31/05/2017 at 13:28

    I think wallis will have an in packed on the bonts score more.
    Bont will do alot more outside work which lower his contested ball

      Mich · 31/05/2017 at 13:59

      In packed

    Moppy · 31/05/2017 at 13:29

    Good question because I want one or the other.

      Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:28

      I'd happily add 3 more dogs to dahl in my team: Bont, Wallis and Macrae but sadly I think there is a most room for one…

Sellars1220 · 31/05/2017 at 11:03

A bit stuck here so here's the trades I'm considering

Option 1. JJK, Newman, SPP > Greene, Adams, Greenwood

Option 2. JJK, Eddy, SPP > Greene, Scottwood, Greenewood

Option 3. JJK, Fisher, SPP > Sloane, Scottwood, Greenwood

    Dean · 31/05/2017 at 19:33

    Option 3

    As I have stated several times. It has me baffled why people would bring in Premo's who have not had their bye rounds.
    Granted if you want to bring in one such as a Sloane or Pendles I see the logic behind it as their B/E is very low but don't bring in two premo's that haven't had their bye's yet, it's just absurd.

    murray · 01/06/2017 at 09:12

    3

    Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:15

    If it sends you to full premo 1, but if you need more cash gen, then 3, whoops, just saw it was Greene in the first two. #noflogs
    Option 4. Wallis/Buddy/TJL + Adams + Greenwood if it sends you full premo, or very nearly to it.

James · 31/05/2017 at 11:44

Any suggestions for trades for my team? Dunno who to trade or even if I should trade, any help would be appreciated.

DEF: Adams, Laird, Simpson, Shaw, Newman, Otten EMG – Stewart, Berry

MID: Danger, Zorko, Bont, Selwood, Treloar, JPK, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper EMG – Lloyd, Barrett, Miles

RUCK: Grundy, Sandilands EMG- Strnadica

FWD: Macrae, Franklin, Dahlhaus, Nank, Greenwood, Parsons, EMG- Stewart, Eddy

Gus · 31/05/2017 at 11:46

Robbie Gray, Ollie Wines or Brad Ebert – only want one of them – which one do you take? Robbie is a bargain but no game time in the middle. Ebert best choice, but Ollie and Robbie well priced…dilemma, dilemma!

    Tom · 31/05/2017 at 11:59

    Ebert – will cost you more but will score more in long run.

    Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 13:13

    Take Ollie. Melbourne football club thought they could do better than Ollie in the draft a few years back and they picked Jimmy Toumpas. Where's he playing this week?

SCdonkey · 31/05/2017 at 11:56

Waiting patiently for these players to be named this week;
L Ryan $117K Ross mentioned his name, but never go by what Ross says.
F McInnes $153K on the Bubble his name has been mentioned so many times in the WCE website likely to be in this week. JJK is out for 3 weeks, Lycett is another week or two away.
B McNiece $102 on the Bubble
B Eddy

    Kyle · 31/05/2017 at 12:43

    Would be careful mate. JJK is out for 3 weeks but one of those is his bye. Meaning he will only miss 2 games and suddenly doesnt sound so bad. If mcinnes only gets 2 games and is dropped when JJK returns is it really worth bringing him in?

      waynesworld · 31/05/2017 at 13:42

      Yes but JJK could easily become a 4 to 6 week spell.
      Think the eagles are trying to convince themselves that its 3 weeks only.

      SCdonkey · 31/05/2017 at 13:42

      Good point, if, that's IF McInnes play well and Petrie spuds it up. Then Simmo will have to weigh his options with McInnes and Petrie like what he did in past two weeks.

      Will have to gamble on that IF and hopefully it falls in my favour. Plus i only need McInnes to play a handful of games to make some cash and ready for upgrade few weeks after the bye rounds.

        Dean · 31/05/2017 at 19:50

        You would be a donkey bringing in McInnes hoping he is a upgrade Rookie straight after the bye rounds.
        If you're going to gamble bringing in a player such as McInnes then bring him in to remain on your bench as HOPEFUL cover and maybe a potential upgrade towards the end of the season if you have enough trades to spare.

        I have contemplated bringing McInnes into my side if named, but IF I bring him in he is there to stay.

        DO NOT BRING HIM IN HOPING HE WILL BE A UPGRADE OPTION IN ROUND 14 OR 15 – If you do, I wish I was playing you every week in my league games.

Ron · 31/05/2017 at 11:59

Will Fraser McInnes play this week. With JJK going down, one would think he just has to come back in?

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 13:08

    i think Lecras will be back

John · 31/05/2017 at 12:31

And talking about it is highly recommended.

Kyle · 31/05/2017 at 12:41

Love your work jock. I am looking at 2 down and 1 up this week. Havnt seen anyone mention joel selwoods name yet. Hes cheap and starting to go back up in price now. Means barrett would be my only rookie mid on field. And will turn him into the bont in 2 weeks.

Also seeing a lot of people wanting to trade out newman. I am against that trade personally. Great chance that we can just do a straight swap to lloyd in a few weeks. Both will be around the 400k mark soon and excluding lloyds 4, is averaging 100. Neeman can definately reach his BE of 80 and make some more cash for us i think. As long as bye structures permit, i reckon this could be the better move than trading beeman out now.

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 13:05

    reaching his BE doesn't make cash. he has to exceed it, and by a fair bit.

      Kyle · 31/05/2017 at 13:24

      All he needs to do is stay around the 400-420k mark and we can straight swap newman to lloyd in 3 weeks. Newman can definately score more than 80. There is no doubt about that and he can still make more cash imo.

    neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 13:27

    Newman is a big chance to make his B E so I would keep him Bont is the one in two weeks also his offsider Wallis has DPP and sc relevant goes big

    Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:31

    Jelwood is good pick this week, can't have too much 'wood', in fact I know one person going for a '3 wood' this week, he's hoping to score a birdie…

Rick Grimes · 31/05/2017 at 12:52

Good call SCD. Gotta talk about it and gotta understand it's not something to be ashamed of.

hedski · 31/05/2017 at 13:19

Thinking of culling some deadwood this week.
Ballic => Bolton
Preuss => Sterndicka
Fisher => Wines
Not completely sold on Bolton yet, let's me hold the likes of Stewart, Berry, SPP and Barrett for a few weeks and get another look at Cousins, Scharenberg and hopefully Ryan.
Solid? Cheers.

    Imgonnalose · 31/05/2017 at 14:19

    Sounds good hedski, I assume you already have a fair bit of cash?
    I wasn't sold on Bolton at first, but I think he would have been playing a lot earlier in the season if it wasn't for injury and suspension

    Danners · 31/05/2017 at 14:39

    Looks solid to me if you already have Greenwood

    hedski · 31/05/2017 at 14:50

    Had a little bit of cash stashed away, not a heap, thinking Stewart to Scharenberg next week, maybe Berry to Ryan after freos bye (assuming he's on the bubble), then upgrade Barrett once I squeeze a bit more cash out of him. SPP for bye coverage shouldn't leak much then up him.
    Got Greenwood in last week.

Ben · 31/05/2017 at 13:36

Asked for advice before but still unsure about what to do with my forward line. Possibly on the trading block are JJK, Houston and saint nick and durdin. If Houston or durdin aren't named then they are out for Greenwood. Do I bother trading out JJK or Nick yet though, other top forwards that I haven't got, Macrae, Heeny and Buddy all have their byes this week so do I just wait a week for more news on JJK and Nick? I'm not covered for byes properly though but not competing for rank so not too sure if I care about a donut or two anyways.
Thanks

    Imgonnalose · 31/05/2017 at 14:20

    Hold saint Nick and jjk for now, doesn't seem like jjk will be out for long

james · 31/05/2017 at 13:42

Hey community, need some help with my trades any help would be appreciated. 18 trades left, 90k in the bank and this is my team currently.

DEF: Adams, Laird, Simpson, Shaw, Newman, Otten EMG – Stewart, Berry

MID: Danger, Zorko, Bont, Selwood, Treloar, JPK, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper EMG – Lloyd, Barrett, Miles

RUCK: Grundy, Sandilands EMG- Strnadica

FWD: Macrae, Franklin, Dahlhaus, Nank, Greenwood, Parsons, EMG- Stewart, Eddy

    Imgonnalose · 31/05/2017 at 14:21

    Newman – hibberd
    Spp – bolton

      Jeff · 31/05/2017 at 14:56

      Hold off on getting hibberd, both have the bye this week so it's just a waste not waiting. I'd maybe look at getting in a dusty this week-hibberd will still be gettable because of ottens cash gen

    SF4 · 31/05/2017 at 16:30

    Eddy>Bolton is a good move

ken · 31/05/2017 at 14:15

i really want sloane.. but is joel selwood the better option? scared that sloane won't be able to break tags, but selwood also cannot handle tags

    Imgonnalose · 31/05/2017 at 14:22

    Selwood won't get tagged as much as Sloane though I wouldn't think

      ken · 31/05/2017 at 14:34

      the thing is that when sloane doesnt get the tag…he scores 130+

    Danners · 31/05/2017 at 14:38

    Depends on your bye structure, if you have about 20 playing in Round 13, get Sloane. Otherwise get Selwood

    neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 14:43

    danger will get the tag always does

      ken · 31/05/2017 at 14:50

      selwood did cop that greenwood tag

    Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 15:50

    If they put a hard tag on Joel at tax payer stadium his free kick count will go through the roof and that is easy points

wightyswarriors · 31/05/2017 at 14:31

Decisions……Have not got danger yet, and this was going to be the week, via Barrett. But S Selwood looks so juicy, albeit he wont keep going at this rate. However, if I get selwood for fisher, byes are improved, and selwood and greenwood will appreciate far quicker than danger, giving me final prem upgrade much quicker. Likely wins in rs 11 and 12.
Thoughts ?

    ken · 31/05/2017 at 14:55

    get in danger ASAP

    jimmy2times · 31/05/2017 at 16:09

    start looking towards next year

    B.T · 31/05/2017 at 16:29

    Get danger or the rest of the season won't be pretty.

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 17:45

    seriously….. you are deciding between dangerfield and Scott Selwood.?….. SCOTT Selwood.?

    Dean · 31/05/2017 at 19:58

    I had to read this post 3 times. Scott Selwood vs Danger? You're taking the pi$$ out surely.

    Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 23:02

    You've got 3 trades…Danger Greenwood and scooter in that order.

Mystic Mac · 31/05/2017 at 14:32

Anyone else holding Kennedy (West Coast)?

    Danners · 31/05/2017 at 14:37

    Might as well this week if you can then it is his bye so he could be back after that

    INPieman · 31/05/2017 at 14:38

    3 weeks & with a bye it's only 2 & it's during the byes. You have to hold. Eagles will be desperate to get him back

    SCdonkey · 31/05/2017 at 14:50

    As much as i like to hold him. With him going down stuffed up my plan of fielding 18 players for Rd 11, they say he'll be out for 3 weeks(who knows might be more or might be less). To answer your question, I'll be pulling the trigger, will be my loss if JJK starts pumping 150 when come back. But I need to start gaining grounds on the pack ahead.

      zilla · 05/06/2017 at 15:42

      For sure, The only real avenue for goals at wet toast. ….. He will come back and dominate. Always does…

Sellars1226 · 31/05/2017 at 14:39

Fisher, SPP, JJK > Sloane, Scottwood, Greenwood ?

Good trades?

Im_Bored · 31/05/2017 at 14:39

Maccas have a new big mac chicken burger!

    Robert · 31/05/2017 at 15:26

    hopefully they dont mess with the "special sauce"

    Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 15:46

    Is it the same special sauce but with chicken instead of what they are passing off as beef

    Hoot · 31/05/2017 at 15:51

    Any good?

    &

    Will it enhance my scoring?

      Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 15:55

      I've been on the twister combo from dirty bird and that's done stuff all for my scoring

        Robert · 31/05/2017 at 16:02

        thats cause you aint going the sweet chilli version

          Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 16:10

          I'll give it a run

            Robert · 31/05/2017 at 16:15

            guaranteed to increase you score by 10% or your money back

    wombatsfc · 31/05/2017 at 17:13

    Just because it's white and maccas call it chicken doesn't mean that it's actually from a chook.
    Have you noticed the decline in seagulls and pigeons around maccas stores lately?

      Juggers · 31/05/2017 at 18:55

      Pigeons taste so good

    redherringfc · 31/05/2017 at 17:55

    mmmmm! Beaks and feat!

    hedski · 31/05/2017 at 18:51

    Double qtr pounder, add lettuce and bacon…if in doubt go to Kermonds.

      INPieman · 31/05/2017 at 19:31

      Lettuce Hedski? You don't win friends with salad

        hedski · 31/05/2017 at 19:44

        Call me old fashioned Pie, but a burger needs a bit of the green goodness to soak up the juices (must salt your lettuce BTW)

          KSinny · 31/05/2017 at 20:43

          Agreed

          wombatsfc · 31/05/2017 at 21:19

          hamburgers should be made of stuff that eats grass, not with grass.

            hedski · 31/05/2017 at 22:07

            Mmmmm, wombat burgers.

              wombatsfc · 01/06/2017 at 00:31

              I wont be going camping with you anymore hedski, I'm starting to think that you were lying about the BBQ sauce scented aeroguard.

                hedski · 01/06/2017 at 06:19

                Ha, ditto. I always remember the sign in a nature park where someone added a comma.
                WOMBATS – Eats, roots and leaves.
                Scary stuff.

Rabbits16 · 31/05/2017 at 14:41

Time to trade Jack steele & Sandilands?

Jack Steel is getting good scores but he was always a stepping stone for me & is sandilands going to be a headache now?

    ken · 31/05/2017 at 14:50

    yeh im swapping him into the midfield and either getting j.selwood or sloane

    Sellars1226 · 31/05/2017 at 14:58

    I'm holding steel but planning to trade out sandi next week

    WTF · 31/05/2017 at 20:04

    Shakes his head in disbelief. If I owned Steele from day 1 and he averaged 92 as he has done, he would definitely remain as my F5 or F6

      JohndJames · 31/05/2017 at 21:18

      Spot on WTF he is a keeper as a fwd,had Steele from the start,very happy considering the fds are the hardest to pick this year.

      Rabbits16 · 01/06/2017 at 14:11

      this is what im thinking too mate as i have had him from the start and has scored consistently pretty good. cheers

    Defying_Madness · 31/05/2017 at 21:29

    I wouldn't be keeping Steele if I owned him

savemebarry1 · 31/05/2017 at 14:50

This is how my trades this week almost went:
-Newman>Sloane
-Mountford>Greenwood
-Priddis>Treloar

Originally I wanted Treloar due to his cheap price along with a Rd 13 Bye. Also because I believed for $17k more than Priddis he would be much more worth it as he'd likely finish with an average of 110+ while Priddis would be low 100's. But then I felt guilty for making a sideways trade, and reversed it.

So here's how my trades this week actually went:
-Newman>Sloane
-Fisher>Wines
-Butler>Greenwood

So I'm still iffy about it (trading Fisher with a BE of 20) but I'm glad I avoided the sideways trade and brought in a cheap bye-free player.
So does anyone else agree with those trades or have any suggestions for alternate options? Cheers guys

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 16:32

    is there anyone besides Butler to trade? he could play this week then you can trade him next week on his bye

    WhatsaFtumch · 31/05/2017 at 17:56

    I will probably be sideways trading at this stage:

    Barrett to S Selwood

    Priddis (BE 145) to Sloane (BE49)

    Fyfe (BE 118) to Dusty (BE57)

    My probably flawed reasoning is thus: Priddis has dropped off big time this year (averaging 98 but only 86.7 last 3 rounds – can't carry that anymore from a premium…and his BE is 145 which looks unlikely.

    Fyfe is a similar story…averaging 92 last 3 rounds but 87 last 5 and hasn't scored over 100 since round 5…either his body or his mind isn't right…or maybe it's both…neither trade changes my bye structure -18 playing first 2 rounds and will probably trade in Wallis for WHE next week to give me 18 for rd 13…

    Barrett will make a little more money sure but Rocky coming back will affect him, but Scooter should make more quicker and either be a perfect M9 or be a cheap(er) upgrade to a premium…well that's what I'm hoping anyway…I will have 14 trades and 72K left at the end of this week in order to find 5 more premos across all lines…

    Still have Marchbank, SPP, Fisher, Stewart, EVW, Myers, Greenwood, Hibberd (NM), Pickett and Eddy to generate cash (well probably not those last 3)…it'll be tight but I can't see myself keeping Priddis all year..Fyfe maybe but I watched him again on the weekend and as I said, he just doesn't look right, so figured I'd bite the bullet now

    I'm not feeling guilty…but I agree with your thinking on both sets of trades…Good Luck!

    I know these are big risks but I figure big risk, big reward…or it'll all come crashing down around me…

    Dean · 31/05/2017 at 20:11

    LOCK it in, looks excellent getting Sloan, Wines & Greenwood.

    Priddis to Treloar is a massive waste of a trade. DON'T do it, if you're going to trade out Priddis wait until the bye rounds are completed and upgrade him to a elite premo such as: Danger, Pendles, Selwood, Zerrit or Titch.

    Just as I will be doing with Shaw post bye rounds, Shaw to Amams = No brainier.

      savemebarry1 · 31/05/2017 at 23:05

      Only problem is it doesn't leave me with a great deal of bank. Just 14k to spare and my defence is desperate for another premo.

Jeff · 31/05/2017 at 14:52

Which rookie to downgrade- SPP, Balic if named, fisher, Barrett or eddy-will definitely trade balic if not named

    Robert · 31/05/2017 at 15:23

    Balic still not back at the club – wont be named

      Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 18:27

      Balic and Eddy won't be named.

Jambak · 31/05/2017 at 14:55

JJK keep or nah?

    Robert · 31/05/2017 at 15:23

    i read above he will only miss 2 games…keep

      Kyle · 31/05/2017 at 15:30

      Out for 3 weeks. One is his bye so only missing 2 games 🙂

    Max · 31/05/2017 at 15:29

    nah

Greg · 31/05/2017 at 15:19

Will Sandi play this weekend? It's going to screw up my bye strategy majorly if we aren't going to be seeing him until after Freo's round 13 bye.

    Robert · 31/05/2017 at 15:22

    Yep he is playing

Tommo09 · 31/05/2017 at 15:19

+1

Confused · 31/05/2017 at 15:37

Jelwood or wines this week community? Really stuck with which to bring in.

    Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 16:12

    There's a reason Joel will cost you more

    SF4 · 31/05/2017 at 16:27

    Selwood for sure.

      Derek · 31/05/2017 at 17:42

      i traded Wines into my team to see what it looked like…… i couldn't hit the reverse button fast enough.

        Tommy · 01/06/2017 at 13:50

        Whys that?

neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 15:39

is anyone having trouble with supercoach site Once in cant do anything trade check players rankings nothing this site is annoying

    Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 15:44

    I have found the site terrible all year but the app on my phone is pretty good

      neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 15:49

      the annoying thing is it can cost you big time I want sselwood but cant get there not only that but I have last weeks team and 1200 pts and sitting on top if it doesn't come good its lost me

        Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 15:53

        If you're trying to get on to get s Selwood in maybe the sc gods are telling you something

          neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 16:01

          true mate icant even reverse

    Robert · 31/05/2017 at 16:07

    i blame the NBN

    Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 18:31

    Yep, nothing much is working on the site. I found I could right click and open and some things worked if that helps.

    hedski · 31/05/2017 at 18:52

    All looks good here, reversed trades 20 times today.

      neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 20:01

      still nothing

#Jelwoodonly · 31/05/2017 at 15:40

This is the week I cull all those Zeros on my bench. Goodbye Fox, Goodbye Eddy and Goodbye to the false prophet from the West Balic.

I need cash and I need some rookies who have a chance of playing, I can't deal with Robbie Fox back on the Rookie List, Eddy sitting in the magoos for all eternity and Balic gone AWOL any longer.

My initial thoughts for this week was to go:

Fox > S Selwood
Balic > Greenwood
Eddy > S Bolton

50k remaining

Advantages, S Selwood has good JS and has a handy bye. Disadvantages, he is a TRAP! I need to suck it up and learn my lesson from last year when I brought in Zaharakis who scored a few 100s but then stunk it up with consistent 60s and even a few 30s. NO SCOTT SELWOOD. He is not good enough to make Mid 8 in my final team and I just know, I just know I will end up having bigger problems than him and just have to accept him and his mediocre scores.

I will avoid the Selwood trap and go:

Balic > Cousins (mid)
Fox > Greenwood (mids)
Eddy > Bolton (fwd)

This leaves with me much handier bank with $230k and allows me to do some master trades and fix my forward line over the next few weeks.

I am retaining Barrett, that little piglet has come good and is going to be a warm body over these byes, BE of 12, he has cash to make yet.

Team will be full premo by Round 15 if all goes according to plan, and I won't be stuck with duds like S Selwood stinking it up with 60s and 70s when he only makes 6 tackles a game.

I realise I run the risk of having some Non playing players with Cousins and Bolton having shaky JS but I reckon this is the time to make cash and take a chance. This is my one chance to clear out that deadwood and I will go for glory, not the mid priced security blanket that is S Selwood.

#Jelwoodonly

    Josh · 31/05/2017 at 15:56

    I'm bringing in Scott Selwood but not as a keeper. With te limited rookies around to get any cash flow I'm willing to spend the extra coin on him as a stepping stone, I expect him to average about 80 which is going to be better than any rookie you bring in, so not only will he provide a similar if not better cash flow than a rookie he will also provide better scores.. seems like a no brainer for only 160K more, and also players like scharenburg for example he is only 80k more.

    The only thing I'm worried about is him re injuring himself but I'm willing to take that punt. He will help me during the byes and that's all I need

      Josh · 31/05/2017 at 15:58

      Also he has job security unlike 70% of rookies this year..
      Bolton and cousins might only play 1/2 more games and then your left where you started with a player with minimal value and a 0, which is the same as if Selwood injures himself. I know where I'm leaning anyway

        Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 18:33

        Cousins and Bolton's JS is ok in the short term.

    SCdonkey · 31/05/2017 at 16:12

    "I realise I run the risk of having some Non playing players with Cousins and Bolton having shaky JS but I reckon this is the time to make cash and take a chance." SMH

    Hmmm!!
    While you can have a player at a bargain price that has a better JS not to worry coping a donut and may cover if injury occurs. (NO further comment)

      Derek · 31/05/2017 at 17:39

      i think there are still a few weeks to make some cash. get a decent bubble boy rookie now they can still be culled in a few weeks time to make some valuable cash for upgrades.

Juggers · 31/05/2017 at 15:59

SPP will be going to Cousins and Balic to Greenwood. Trying to decide which MID or forward to trade Taranto to. Have 590,000 to spend but want to save money where I can. I'm thinking either Greene or Wines, Both would fill the last spot in that line.

Tibor · 31/05/2017 at 16:03

Lots of S Selwood chatter this week. Three rules that hold firm for mine, All the Selwoods are good, all the westoffs are crap and all the Motlop are. F……. in the head.

As good a player as Scott is he will be required to play a lot of negative roles that cut into his sc output. On the odd occasion where he has an opportunity to play his own game he can score but he is the classic team man not the team star like the brother.

    Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 18:35

    He can score good as a tagger as well.

      wombatsfc · 31/05/2017 at 18:50

      He sure can cogla, he knocked out a lazy 102 whilst blanketing Bont to keep him to his lowest score of the season.
      Champion data love the Bont and usually give him 30 just for running through the banner so for him to only score 81 scooter must have been very close all game. I doubt that it's possible for him to be more shutdown than he was in his first 2 games.

      The reason the non-believers give is "He'll get shutdown roles" which is the same as saying "I wont trade him in because I believe that he'll continue playing the same role that has him averaging 107".

        Rick Grimes · 31/05/2017 at 19:21

        Time will tell. I'm prepared to eat humble pie, just hope the Scootetheads do likewise when he underperforms.

Ben · 31/05/2017 at 16:08

Do I trade SPP to Scharenberg through dpp, wait a week then then trade SPP to Scharenberg or trade SPP this week to S Selwood?
Thanks

    Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 18:37

    I guess your bye structure should decide this for you. Don't do 1.

Will · 31/05/2017 at 16:22

Who will average more form here, Kelly or JPK?

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 17:36

    winter is coming……….

      Will · 31/05/2017 at 17:50

      Oh yes Derek

      Jon Snow · 31/05/2017 at 19:02

      R u farkin kidding me?! 🙁

Harry H · 31/05/2017 at 16:27

Intrigued by the S Selwood debate and how people can be so emphatic one way or the other. He's a speculative pick and one that requires a clear thought process. I'm trading him in and this is my rationale:
1) I'm going ok with trades, 15 after this week and only 4 upgrades to go
2) Selwood is my M9. I'm not relying on him week after week on field. If I was, he's too risky and I wouldn't get him in
3) I trade him fully expecting he'll miss the odd week as C Scott always rests players. The key is he's M9 so I'm not reliant on his score
4) If he breaks down again, worst case is he still makes some money
5) I'm not bringing him in as a cash cow. He's coverage in the 2nd half of the year
6) Myers was my original plan for M9 but his scores aren't cutting it so I need another option
7) I accept that a DPP is handy on the mids bench. M11 is currently Barrett and he'll downgrade to a DPP rookie for flexibility

So I end up as a semi gun as M9 (albeit a risky pick), an average scorer with high JS as M10, and a DPP for flexibility as M11. Deal done.

    Derek · 31/05/2017 at 17:35

    i disagree. M9 has to be a DPP.

    Keenbutclueless · 31/05/2017 at 18:17

    My aim is to have Nank as F7. This is effectively F7,R3 and M9. It's one of the most important roles in my structure for that reason. It is also an effective use of my scarce cash!

      Derek · 31/05/2017 at 18:32

      agree.

      Have Nank at F7 with a non playing M9 who has DPP. If a mid goes down, swing Dalhaus into guts and Nank on field.

      You also have clearly studied the draw and realized that Richmond have 5 of their last 7 games on a SUNDAY, allowing for late outs and even a bit of fancy E loopholing across 3 lines.

      Scott Selwood can't do that! I think Cats have mainly Friday and early saturday games left for the season. not a good choice for an M9

Da_Boysh · 31/05/2017 at 16:59

Clayton Oliver has a BE of about 123.. do I upgrade him to a pendles, or a wines etc. Am I supposed to hold him all season can he keep up the output or should I move him on at his price peak.

    ATLfan · 31/05/2017 at 17:00

    Definitely hold, he's a top 10 mid for sure

    Juggers · 31/05/2017 at 17:01

    Definitely keep him

    SCdonkey · 31/05/2017 at 17:07

    Most definitely HOLD. He's playing that well, will probably get 2 or 3 sub 100 but worth keeping til the end of season. Looking like to be a breakout year for him.

    Dnoyes · 31/05/2017 at 17:27

    I've considered moving him on as a trade of difference. He's only a young player and fitness has been an issue for him over his career. There are probably better things to do with your trades now however, so I'd only do it if you feel that you need to make a risky move to climb the ranks.

    INPieman · 31/05/2017 at 18:48

    Hmmmm that's quite the conundrum. Oliver is in his second season & has had an incredible first half of this season. The question is can he run out the rest of it. Personally if I had him I'd trade him to Pendles who is always a top 5 mid & durable to the Jax. If you had the option to send Oliver to Pendles for 6k at the start of the season you would have taken it no questions asked. But it does also depend how that effects your bye structure & how your going for trades

      Da_Boysh · 01/06/2017 at 09:48

      well i wont have 18 players for round 11 so there's upside there. I definitely thought I would have him to move on at some point but he has done so well I have not really considered it until just now. Pendles it is

    JohndJames · 31/05/2017 at 21:13

    Depends on how you are going with trades,it's a trade you do if you have no other problems. I've had Oliver from the start,with the intention of keeping him as a M8 he is currently my M5 in a full premo mids line.

    Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:08

    Could go higher with a fit Gawn back….might be low point across the byes for the second half of the season…..#whoknows?

Joey · 31/05/2017 at 17:23

Who will average more from here on Rockliff or Joel Selwood?

    Ja191 · 31/05/2017 at 18:07

    Rockliff

    Tyruddanaut · 31/05/2017 at 18:31

    I think Rockliff has shown promise but he is rather prone to injury. Joel Selwood will likely give you 22 games and still score as a premium should. I'm predicting 107+ from Joel and 111+ from Rockliff

    wightyswarriors · 31/05/2017 at 18:43

    Rockliff, but Id rather selwood for most points over the season

    Kyle · 31/05/2017 at 19:13

    Definately rocky will average more. 125+ definately isnt beyond him. You just run the risk of injury.

    hedski · 31/05/2017 at 19:47

    Selwood, don't trust Rocky's shoulder.
    Then again I thought Beams quad would be 4+ and Sandiballs hammy 4+.

      Joey · 31/05/2017 at 20:10

      Will he most likely be back next week?

        hedski · 31/05/2017 at 20:32

        Sandi? Maybe but I kicked him for Mummy last week. Sry not sure on Rocky.

    Daniel Z · 02/06/2017 at 00:07

    Rockliff will average more but that doesn't matter. They both have 12 games remaining.
    If Selwood averages 110 for the year, that's 1,320 points.
    If Rocky misses one, he'd have to average 120 points per game.

    It's feasible but not worth the risk (especially with a 50k higher price tag).

Steeeve · 31/05/2017 at 17:36

That sad realisation Cousins could be the best option for a midfield downgrade but it will mean we don't get another game out of Barrett. Might as well move him on now.

    Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 19:29

    Wait 1 week. Cousins might go down injured.

      Steeeve · 01/06/2017 at 12:13

      I'll wait and see on Cousins. But if he is worth bringing in it will have to be done before Barrett plays again and makes more cash. Perhaps it's better to just trade Barrett this week and have SPP's warm body on field.

    Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 23:06

    Trade
    Sincerely,
    Grasshopper

Mitch · 31/05/2017 at 17:44

option 1
OUT:
C.Marchbank, T.Taranto, B.Eddy
IN:
T.Adams, H.Greenwood , S.Bolton
leaves about 80k

Option 2
OUT: N.Newman, N.Fyfe, T. Taranto
IN: T. Adams, R.Sloane, H.Greenwood
leaves only 13k and makes the bye rounds more difficult to navigate, but i beleive sets me up best for the pointy end of the year. Is this a backwards trade in the context of my team?

I intend on bringing in Docherty & scharanburger next week for Newman and someone else (maybe Stewart), also holding JJK.

i have 18 trades and 6k bank before making any this round.
DEF: Larid, Lloyd, Hibberd, Shaw, Newman, Marchbank (Stewart, Berry)
MID: Danger, Titchell,, Pendles, Bont, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, SPP ( Fisher, Myers, Barrett)
FWD: JJK, Dahl, Macrae, Higgins, Taranto, Stewart (Parsons, Eddy)

Any suggestions appreciated 🙂

    Mitch · 31/05/2017 at 17:45

    oh and i forgot…
    RUC: Nank, Sandi (Stef)

    wightyswarriors · 31/05/2017 at 18:41

    Do you have an easier question ? LOL

    Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 20:19

    Don't know if trading out Fyfe is such a good idea, the guy's still averaging 100, option 1 for me, if S.Selwood successfully tags Sloane this week, he could go sub 100..and would only rise in price a little next week.
    I thought about getting rid of Fyfe too but it's really a luxury trade and there are more important things to deal with.

    Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 22:55

    Option 1 provided fyfe named this week.

      Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 23:00

      Hey Random 2, is Fyfe in danger of not being named this week…and for what reason?

Ryan · 31/05/2017 at 18:21

Thinking of trading fyfe my m8 for s selwood am i crazy

    wightyswarriors · 31/05/2017 at 18:38

    sc101…NEVER trade a fallen prem sideways….hanners….treloar etc… really think swood will continue to go big ? A rookie upgrade maybe for swood

    INPieman · 31/05/2017 at 18:39

    No doubt about it. See a doctor immediately

      Danners · 31/05/2017 at 21:21

      I would listen to Pieman's advice, not sure whether this is any relevant these days but #Fyfeislife

    Neil · 31/05/2017 at 19:03

    I'd do it … Fyfe is cooked!

      Rick Grimes · 31/05/2017 at 19:16

      I seem to recall people saying Hanners was cooked early on, has averaged 115 over the last 8. Treloar also stuffed, now banging out big tons. Fyfe will burn those who trade him.

        Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:22

        Cripps to….

    Top Gun · 31/05/2017 at 19:40

    NOOOO! Fyfe is still a gun.

      Ryan · 31/05/2017 at 20:58

      Thanks guys ii think ill take a miss on selwood he just does not fit with full premo in the middle dont want that much cash sitting on the bench

    Goat · 31/05/2017 at 22:55

    S Selwood is a no go. I have read and tested the comments on this forum and cannot see. Win here. I have SPP. Just as likely he will clock 100 Rd 11 and I can save a trade. Both would have to go in 2-3 weeks.

    Defying_Madness · 01/06/2017 at 00:21

    Only way i would ever consider trading out Fyfe is to Pendles or another ultra premo, however even that seems illogical and a waste of a trade. I personally will give Fyfe 2 more rounds to improve and if he doesn't I will move him onto Joel Selwood

      Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:25

      I gave him last week to improve, see ya later pal. #injuredhand #injuredheart #busynotbreakingdownbeforemegacontract

Darcy Kelly · 31/05/2017 at 18:30

Do we hold or trade butler? Need player's playing round 13 so could ho eddy to greenwood not butler. What do u, the community, think?

    INPieman · 31/05/2017 at 18:39

    Get rid of Butler. He's served his purpose

    Cogla13 · 31/05/2017 at 19:32

    Eddy is non playing, Butler probably in this week. Trade Eddy.

Jwill2bong · 31/05/2017 at 18:45

Robbie Gray named on the ball, is that a game changer?

    Ja191 · 31/05/2017 at 19:01

    question is whether he will be named on ball for the rest of the year. One week is one week.

    Hannibal · 31/05/2017 at 19:05

    Doesn't mean sh1t! Hinkley is just trying to mind f*ck Clarko!

    Top Gun · 31/05/2017 at 19:39

    Team positions mean nothing. I'm surprised coaches don't rotate premo mids to the forward line during the game to give them more of a rest and then Gray would get awesome scores.

    Hoot · 31/05/2017 at 20:01

    Who's going to take the punt?

    Pman · 31/05/2017 at 21:39

    No as it means nothing at all where they line up in the papers.

James · 31/05/2017 at 19:02

Get Sloane now or wait a couple on Neale? (bye structure irrelvant)

    Northerner · 31/05/2017 at 21:09

    Sloane. Who knows where Freo will finish

Top Gun · 31/05/2017 at 19:37

Wonder how many people have the same problem… would love to get either Scharenberg, Sloane or Cousins but my structure would then struggle in Round 13. Might be forced to go Bolton Selwood S or Martin D

Joshua · 31/05/2017 at 19:53

Balic to greenwood, taranto to Greene locked in.
Barrett or SPP to Cousins or Scott selwood?

James · 31/05/2017 at 19:57

WHE to Greenwood (18 players this week) or Eddy to greenwood (19 players assuming eddy is not named) but less cash gen and risk of WHE leaking a little cash befor round 13? Thank so in advance

    Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 20:27

    Eddy not named, Port and Hawks sides are unchanged from last week.
    I'd go Eddy over WHE…he could have a good game before you trade him out.

Jack · 31/05/2017 at 20:06

Trades this week

OUT
Jarrod Berry
Jarrod Pickett
David Swallow

IN
Hugh Greenwood
Scott Selwood
Joel Selwood

Thoughts community? Solid trades?

Only leaves me with 7k after that. Thinking of going early on Cousins instead of Scott Selwood..

    Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 20:25

    Solid trades, but there are many peeps saying yes to S.Selwood and many saying no, depends on what you expect from him for 280k I guess.
    He'll definitely rise at least 50k next week even if he only scores 75 or 80, Cousins looks allright though, 80kg, 185cm midfielder, apparently a "high possesion getter"..and will save you a buttload of money.

    Good luck.

      BlueNath · 31/05/2017 at 21:12

      Agreed. Wait… where are you keeping your money Russty?

    Randomcliche2 · 31/05/2017 at 21:37

    Yes, but no to the effective swallow to scooter, if you don't need the extra small bit of cash. Swallow to play all bye rounds is why.

    Hammer Twofall · 01/06/2017 at 15:09

    Solid Trades. Will help you sleep nights over the bye weeks

Juggers · 31/05/2017 at 20:38

Mitch Hibberd any chance to be named?

Whitey · 31/05/2017 at 20:44

Anyone else about the throw their computer through the window? The SC website won't let me do anything. RAGING!!!!

    Dan · 31/05/2017 at 20:54

    nah, its not working for me either, better work tommorow!

    redgumwon · 31/05/2017 at 21:12

    Same thing using internet explorer. Supercoach will work with Chrome.

      David C · 01/06/2017 at 09:08

      Use a different browser. Microsoft Edge works, just not working with internet explorer.

    hedski · 31/05/2017 at 21:18

    Works fine on my phone, don't have a computer, already out the window.

    neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 21:30

    fix the problem then

      redgumwon · 31/05/2017 at 21:31

      It will work using Chrome instead of Explorer

Tyruddanaut · 31/05/2017 at 20:47

Should Iock in Hugh Greenwood as a pick? I'm not sure whether that short period between teams and play is enough for further decisions

    bob the builder · 31/05/2017 at 20:50

    yeah i hate it, have locked him in for Eddy

    Top Gun · 31/05/2017 at 23:15

    Yep a must get

Sellars1226 · 31/05/2017 at 20:54

Should I trade out Fyfe for Rockcliff when he comes back? Last year Rockcliff got injured and came back and went berserk and pumped out like 150-70 SC points

    Danners · 31/05/2017 at 21:18

    If you have like 20+ trades maybe, but Fyfe was a top 3 player couple years back

Doc · 31/05/2017 at 21:11

Cousins or Bolton?

Neither planned to be upgraded or on field.
Save the cash or take the DPP?.

    Danners · 31/05/2017 at 21:19

    Bolton, Cousins JS looks pretty low to me just looking at Hawthorn's emergencies at the moment. Bolton probably would help your bye structure anyway

BlueNath · 31/05/2017 at 21:23

Sloane or Danger for VC Friday night?? Can the Sloane Ranger still rack up decent points with Ssellwood on his hammer?

    BlueNath · 31/05/2017 at 21:26

    And who to make C if the VC fails!

    TOPHAWK1 · 31/05/2017 at 21:54

    Tom Mitchell could be a good VC and Friday night may just be stress free!

    Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 22:39

    I'm gonna go with Danger as VC Bluenath, and Pendles as C…. just in case Sloane gets the crap tagged out of him..as Tophawk said, T-mitch would be better, but I assume you don't own him?

neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 21:25

hope the supercoach site comes good shortly still cant move about once in

    Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 22:43

    I haven't had any trouble with it at all, all day Neil, could be your internet provider is the problem?

      neil Demons Delight · 31/05/2017 at 23:01

      some people on this forum are the same thanks for your reply changed provider to chrome and another laptop still nought but not only me I blame supercoach gods hope it is fixed by morning or I am stuck with last weeks team and no changes rotten way to lose cheers

        Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 23:06

        Sometimes it has something to do with the updates you might've installed Neil, they aren't always friendly to your computer, try doing a system restore from 3 days ago or so…or run a good, paid for anti-malware programme, could also be a trojan, redirecting you everytime you try to get to Supercoach.

        Russty_ · 31/05/2017 at 23:10

        Your provider isn't your Search engine mate, your provider is Telstra, IInet etc, ..my puter was running slow as FK in regards to connecting to and navigating Supercoach pages, I did the restore and ran my Malware program several times and now it's fast and good.

        David C · 01/06/2017 at 09:12

        Try another internet browser. It's not working for me on Internet Explorer but works with Edge. Someone updated it is working with Chrome.

        Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:10

        Clear your cookies and stuff as well…. working fine here….

        redgumwon · 01/06/2017 at 12:52

        I got this off the Herald Sun today

        Thank you for your email.

        We're looking into that issue at the moment, and for the meantime we can recommend you try using a different web browser such as Chrome to make adjustments to your team.

        Kind regards,

        SuperCoach AFL Support

Dutch · 31/05/2017 at 21:35

Like many others, have started to look at Wines as an option. Thought looking back at Ocker's spreadsheet would be a good reference check. It concerns me. Wines highest yearly average in the last 4 years is 100.3, and the 8-week averages show he's never averaged more than 110 in those 8-week stretches, and out of the twelve 8-week stretches he's only averaged more than 100 four times. This is well short of ultra-premium. Do we really expect him to step up to 110+ performance for the rest of this year, for the first time in his career? Maybe, but it's a decent risk. I understand the bye situation is attractive, as is his price, but I won't be entering such risky territory with my premium mid selections.

    Keenbutclueless · 31/05/2017 at 21:47

    My thoughts on Wines is that I only need him to average 105. He plays 13 games = 1365 points. Someone who plays 12 games @ 110 = 1320 plus a rookie. So about the same total score.
    I agree he is unlikely to average 110, but he will do the job if averages 105. I think he can do 105.
    I am also short of cash, so it is a great choice for me

    Pman · 31/05/2017 at 21:51

    I agree. Wines is a bust and no one would be considering him if it wasn't for the BYES this week. I see him as a short term gain but a potential long term pain as I don't believe he will finish season as a top 10 mid and therefore a wasted trade.

Dutch · 31/05/2017 at 21:39

Also looked at Tom J Lynch (GC), his price will bottom out after this week and again the bye situation is attractive. A very valid selection in my opinion, with one big question mark – the GC play Port Adelaide in the last round, the League GFs, at Adelaide Oval. Whilst I don't expect another sub-40 score then (like in Shanghai), it may be quite a task for him to go big. Does anyone share my concern/

    Keenbutclueless · 31/05/2017 at 21:56

    You and I are thinking alike! Not sure that's a good thing for you given my rank this year! The 435k price tag next week is too good to ignore. I will be taking the risk because I am short of cash. By the last round I hope to have Nank at F7. As Derek rightly pointed out, there will be good opportunities to loophole by then. Given his volatility in scoring, I will be looking to loophole him as often as possible

    TOPHAWK1 · 31/05/2017 at 22:12

    Not really Dutchie. I do not share your concern.

    You are looking way too far ahead. The GF in SC leagues is 3 months away. Even one week in footy is an eternity.

    I like Tom J Lynch too. Class player. If I do pick him at the right price in the next week or two, he will still dispensable come finals.

    Cheers

Oliver · 01/06/2017 at 00:49

How much safer is Ollie Wines to Robbie Gray? I can't decide which one to bring in?

    Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:21

    He's not. One is proven (albeit injured), one is an ultra premo breakout contender. I am buying Wines though. If you read last weeks teams you'd think Gray was playing mids http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-1… but he didn't. Until you see him play mid you can't select him because you can't believe a team sheet, a press conference, a tweet, whatever that he will play there….

    Hammer Twofall · 01/06/2017 at 15:07

    Get both. Do the trades to get Wines then while Gray is so cheap trade him in for SPP

Jono · 01/06/2017 at 06:51

Option 1: JJK, Eddy, Balic to Wines, Scharenberg, Greenwood
Option 2: Newman, Eddy, Balic to Wines, Scharenberg, Greenwood
Hold or trade JJK really?

    Hammer Twofall · 01/06/2017 at 15:05

    1 for sure

Harry · 01/06/2017 at 08:39

Is it worth going Pickett to Bolton or waste of Trade?

    Bells E Bubb · 01/06/2017 at 23:58

    Can’t see that being a winner. Cousins? Greenwood?

murray · 01/06/2017 at 08:53

I want to trade out Newman this week, any ideas on a cheap rookie DEF downgrade option who has reasonable job security and will play a few weeks. Ultimately is to generate cash for next week(s)

    Cogla13 · 01/06/2017 at 11:13

    Ryan should get named for Freo. Sharenberg should have solid JS. Also, Perryman but he is a bit of a slow burn.

      murray · 01/06/2017 at 14:49

      thanks Cogla, I actually had him on my shortlist preseason, if picked I think I will get him. Sharenberg also has to be considered. I might so either so I can get wines this week

    KrazeeEyezK1lla · 01/06/2017 at 17:11

    Scharenberg

Jack · 01/06/2017 at 09:50

Thursday night games are crap. Fraser McInnes is gonna stain my team for the rest of the year.

    Randomcliche2 · 01/06/2017 at 12:06

    Might come in this week…but probably not in rnd 13 when you'll probably most need him…..

Redd · 01/06/2017 at 10:53

Whats every1s oppinion on Zack Williams will he see out the year in the top 6 defenders?

Jet · 01/06/2017 at 11:20

I am thinking about getting brad Ebert in this week is this a smart or dumb trade considering he is only selected by 2.7% of the competition and is averaging 108

    Steeeve · 01/06/2017 at 12:15

    Has shown he can't maintain that average. Will average 100 from here on. Gray moving back into the mids could drop that average even further.

      Defying_Madness · 01/06/2017 at 20:51

      Smart one aren't you

        Steeeve · 02/06/2017 at 16:22

        Thursday was not good for my opinions but hey you can't change facts. Ebert has never managed consistent uber-premo output and Gray has (numerous times).

    Dean · 01/06/2017 at 19:47

    I rate Ebert a LOT. Don't understand why only a select few own him, he is a top POD.

Doug · 19/06/2017 at 12:19

Hello

Wombats · 19/06/2017 at 12:24

Top article as always!

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