Heroes-Villians-Damned

The future is now. We are seeing a changing of the guard, Community. The old firm has given us plenty of good memories, but the time of the young bucks has come.

A new wave of the brightest young SuperCoach prospects has emerged and boy did they put on a show on the weekend. The likes of Cripps, Kelly, Oliver, Merrett and Mitchell were absolutely prolific for their respective sides, smashing through the 130-point barrier in scintillating fashion.

And then there was Nic bloody Newman. A late inclusion into Sydney line up on Sunday, the youngster proceeded to smash out an incredible score of 151C.

The exuberance of youth has propelled these players into their prime ahead of time – they have well and truly arrived.

The Heroes

Patrick Cripps (157 SC) led all comers with a masterclass for the Blues. Had 30 touches – 20 of them contested – 11 marks and 2 goals all at 80% efficiency. Start the year off slowly after a back injury limited his pre season. Looks to be approaching full fitness now and should dominate for the remainder of the season.

Horse is really messing with us now. He didn’t pick Nic Newman (151 SC) initially, but then snuck him in as a late inclusion against the Roos. By then, most coaches had either traded him out or had him sitting on the pine. He had 35 disposals and 11 marks in a stunning display. The Swans are back in a big way, and their mids in particular had a day out against the Roos. JPK (137 SC), Dan Hannebery (134 SC), Isaac Heeney (130 SC) and Luke Parker (122 SC) all got in on the action.

Those who started with Josh Kelly (147 SC) would be pleased as the star Giant has been incredibly consistent this season and almost single-handedly helped his side get over the line on Saturday. Had it 36 times with 11 tackles and a goal. The Demons had a field day in their 51-point mauling of Adelaide, with Clayton Oliver (142 SC) leading the way with 30 disposals, 10 tackles and a brilliant goal from the boundary line. Team-mates Jack Viney (130 SC), Christian Petracca (121 SC) and Nathan Jones (120 SC) also joined in on the party.

Ball magnets Tom Rockliff (147 SC), Tom Mitchell (135 SC) and Zach Merrett (137 SC) were simply sensational for their respective sides. Rocky had it 30 times, 21 of them contested, and racked up a monster 13 tackles as well. But he dislocated his shoulder late in the match and faces a stint on the sidelines. Opponent Mitchell gathered 36 possessions and 9 tackles in another productive outing while Merrett was brilliant for the Bombers with 33 disposals and 12 tackles.

Sam Docherty (132 SC) is on track to be the number 1 defender in SC for the second consecutive year, accumulating 26 possessions, 11 marks and 6 tackles. However hot on his heals is Rory Laird (124 SC), who was one of the few Crows to perform in their disappointing loss to the Demons, racking up 37 disposals. Young Saint Jack Billings (136 SC) had a break out match with 30 touches and 5 goals while team-mate Seb Ross (129 SC) is proving to be one of the finds of the season, producing another good game which included 31 touches and 2 goals.

When Max Gawn went down, many coaches had the choice between two options  – Brodie Grundy and Stef Martin (125 SC). Those who went Stef should give themselves a big pat on the back. He was excellent again tallying a huge 63 hit outs and 10 tackles. Speaking of gun ruckmen, Sam Jacobs (141 SC) has again entered the conversation. After a couple of barren years, big Sauce has returned to vintage form in 2017, smashing out an enormous 74 hit outs.

Speedy Freo forward-turned-midfielder Michael Walters (137 SC) absolutely cut Richmond apart with his run and dash while gun mid Lachie Neale (129 SC) continued his scintillating form after a slow start to the match. Andrew Gaff (121 SC) was close to best on ground for the Eagles in their win over the Dogs, gathering 35 touches and 15 marks to go with 1.1. West Coast teammate Shannon Hurn (121 SC) had it 28 times, including 20 kicks, at a proficient 89% efficiency.

Other players to break the 120-mark for the round were Bomber Michel Hurley (127 SC) and Swan Sam Reid (127 SC).

The Villains

It was all meant to fall in to place for Brodie Grundy (83 SC). No Cox – check. 46 SC at quarter time – check. Due for a big score after a month of mediocrity – check. So what the bloody hell happened?

Bulldogs Luke Dahlhaus (65 SC) and Jason Johannisen (77 SC) did not register a single tackle between them, with Dahl only having 4 contested possessions out of 25 and Top Deck just 3 contested touches out of his 26. This was the main factor for their low scores.  

Jeez, Heath Shaw (77 SC) has featured in here a few times already this season. We are all waiting for him to hit his straps and it hasn’t bloody happened yet. Seems to be impacted by the emergence of Zac Williams in particular.

Veteran Saints Leigh Montagna (75 SC) and Nick Riewoldt (75 SC) have now appeared in this section two weeks in a row and could be starting to slow down in their old age. Scott Pendlebury (77 SC) appeared to be distracted by the impending birth of his first child, but, hey, at least he didn’t have to leave mid-match. Cats pair Joel Selwood (78 SC) and Zach Tuohy (66 SC) were ordinary in Geelong’s loss to the Bombers.

Rory Sloane (70 SC) had his second quiet match in a row and was hindered by a Bernie Vince tag. Expect teams to deploy this tactic on him for the rest of the season. Fellow Crow Matt Crouch (79 SC) again could not reach the heights expected of him. Superstars Gary Ablett (80 SC) and Robbie Gray (76 SC) did not standout during their historic Chinese match, while Swans pair Lance Franklin (82 SC) and Zak Jones (63 SC) were quiet despite Sydney’s strong victory.

The Redeemers

Elliott Yeo (109 SC) is defying his previous Yo-Yo reputation and is starting to produce a season of real substance and consistency. Now appears to be a must-have forward. Jarryd Roughaed (99 SC) continued his resurgence with 2 goals while Jack Steele (114 SC) played one of his best games for the Saints.

Marc Murphy (108 SC) has shrugged off several injury-plagued seasons and now looks the real deal in 2017. If he continues his current form, a top 10 finish in the midfield is not out of the question. The only concern is his injury history which – as is evidence with Dayne Beams – could re-emerge.

The Prodigies

Despite his modest first two scores, David Meyers (57 SC) looks the goods for the Bombers and his position in the Essendon side appears safe. He should be the number one trade-in target this week if you are looking for a downgrade.

Expensive trio Tim Taranto (82 SC), Will Hoskin-Elliott (75 SC) and Andrew McGrath (66 SC) justified their price tags with solid performances. Brisbane’s Jarrod Berry (71 SC) continues to improve with every game, while fellow Lion Jake Barrett (59 SC) did enough to hold his spot.

Ed Vickers-Willis (79 SC) had a much-improved outing for North, while counterpart Sam Durdin (48 SC) started to find his feet in his second match. Jy Simpkin (6 SC) copped an injury early. Swans rookies Will Hayward (38 SC) and Lewis Melican (31 SC) were unable to cash in on their side’s big win.

Port’s Sam Powell-Pepper (70 SC) had a decent outing in China, while Gold Coast opponents Jack Bowes (52 SC) and Brad Scheer (27 SC) must have been impacted by the pollution and hefty travel time. Freo’s Cam McCarthy (66 SC) looked lively up forward, while Tiger opponent Todd Elton (22 SC) was barely sighted.

Carlton’s rookies Caleb Marchbank (63 SC), Sam Petrevski-Seton (59 SC), Zac Fisher (39 SC) and Tom Williamson (38 SC) failed to impress as did Cats trio Tom Stewart (46 SC), James Parsons (38 SC) and first-gamer Mark O’Connor (28 SC).

Giant Daniel Lloyd (54 SC) looked OK on debut, while West Coast’s Kurt Mutimer (53 SC) and Hawthorn’s Blake Hardwick (32 SC) didn’t get enough of the ball to have an impact.

The Damned

Crows pair Andy Otten (56 SC) and Curtly Hampton (52 SC) did not make their break evens this week and lost cash. Now is the time to move them on before they bleed any more coin. Melbourne opponent Mitch Hannan (30 SC) was again deplorable and surely won’t be in the Demons side much longer, while time may be up for Richmond forward Daniel Butler (36 SC) as well.

Cyril Rioli (75 SC) looks to have done a serious knee injury and will be out for a number of weeks, while Tom Liberatore (34 SC) just hasn’t been the same since his return from a serious knee injury. He had only 8 disposals despite playing 85% game time.

 

How did you go this week, Community?

 Twitter: @CarlPfeiffer9


499 Comments

Ethan · 15/05/2017 at 11:41

Thoughts on Steele Sidebottom, averaged 100+ last 4-5 seasons and has fallen away due to crap DE and clangers. Any chance he'll return to his peak

    jez_m · 15/05/2017 at 11:49

    At this stage it looks unlikely. Won't be a top 10 midfielder by seasons end.

    Danners · 15/05/2017 at 11:55

    Maybe wait a bit and take a punt on R.Gray, could be $440k in a couple of weeks

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:22

      Robbie Gray in carrying a groin injury & is playing as a small forward. Buyer beware

        psyrick · 15/05/2017 at 12:57

        Robbie Gray has been carrying a groin injury for years now, it doesn't really seem to affect him much. While he heavily targeted in the Port forward line, the risk of him getting shut out of games by a good defender is too high to consider him as a good mid option though. Also Wingard is now the preferred mid option to rotate in (might looking to pick him up in the forward line) but I think Hinkley likes switching up rotations so he will still see some mid time, just resticted.

    Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 12:52

    Staying away from any Collingwood mid atm

    Peter Demetriou · 15/05/2017 at 22:27

    Personally think there are some better value picks like D.Martin, R.Gray & Z.Merret (Not that cheap)

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:25

    Yesget him if u can

John H · 15/05/2017 at 11:48

I'm putting myself in the damned section I can't take a trick I give up goodbye supercoach world

    SKSKSKSKSKSK · 15/05/2017 at 19:41

    no

Bells · 15/05/2017 at 11:56

Is Myers worth bringing in? Pretty ordinary scoring. What is his JS like? Getting to the stage where we just want someone in on the bench who will play for rest of year plus a few rock bottom priced guys.

Henry · 15/05/2017 at 12:01

Will Jayden Hunt play next round?

He got 56 considering he only played half a game…

Can do otten and treloar for kelly and hunt, thoughts?

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:24

    Sorry Henry but those trades are garbage.

    Whilst I like Josh Kelly he's not a top mid, not really a POD really either at 7.9% and there will be people chasing his 150 so that ownership may go up. Can see players Like JPK, Zerrett and Fyfe averaging more for the season from here on.

    Jayden Hunt is unproven.

Babo · 15/05/2017 at 12:06

Yeo Yeo… What to do…..

1. Buy NOW.
2. Wait till after WCE Bye.
3. Too Late.. search elsewhere.
4. Wait for his sub 70 Sc which is inevitable.

    Ben · 15/05/2017 at 12:27

    3 or 4 I think. There are better value picks.

    redherringfc · 15/05/2017 at 16:02

    i'm hoping he crashes back to reality and realises he is not a supercoach premium (this year).

    I'm going to see him out for this year and then give some serious consideration for him at the start of 2018.

    Heeney is almost 70k cheaper and hopefully (because i bought him last week) going to be as good as yeo.

    Raging Bulls · 17/05/2017 at 11:52

    2 into 4

Xan · 15/05/2017 at 12:06

Any forward rookie options to bring in this week

    INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:12

    Parsons is cheap. And rubbish

      Filthy Phil · 15/05/2017 at 12:26

      And won't be playing soon enough like just about every other bench rookie this season.

    Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 12:39

    James Stewart / Essendon $170K .. won't be on the bubble till next week.. Scored 91 in his first game ..

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:49

      Desperate times when Stewart is the 2nd most traded in player this week. He won't be doing that every week

    jkjkjkjkjkjk · 15/05/2017 at 19:44

    Heeney

      Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 20:12

      rookie?

neil demons delight · 15/05/2017 at 12:06

great stuff Carl how bad is Cyrils injury..Myers is a must have now

    Kev · 15/05/2017 at 12:48

    If you're in the market for a mid downgrade, sure, but I wouldn't be going early on a SPP/Barrett. Myers hasn't been that impressive

      Daizy · 15/05/2017 at 15:14

      Gotta pick up the good cows when they present.
      Myers is a non negotiable this week for mine

judd0 · 15/05/2017 at 12:08

Thoughts would be appreciated:

Option1:
Otten to Myers via DPP
WHE to Heeney

Option 2:
Otten to Laird
SPP to Myers

I personally like option 1 as I think holding Powell Pepper will help me through the byes and he will make a little more coin, as well as Heeney still being cheap and WHE starting to lose cash.

Option 2 does slightly suit my bye structure better and probably has a better points generation. However I can get Laird in later down the track.

    wightyswarriors · 15/05/2017 at 12:25

    juddo, how do you get otten to myers via dpp ???

      Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 12:41

      Probably has Adams or Berry in the middle … can Sub them into DEF and fill the MID .

        wightyswarriors · 15/05/2017 at 14:37

        course

      Matze · 15/05/2017 at 12:44

      Hibberd or berry swing? Or Lloyd or Adams if he's got them in the mids

        judd0 · 15/05/2017 at 14:22

        Traded Otten out, then swing Mcgrath (Ess) into DEF.

          wightyswarriors · 15/05/2017 at 14:38

          of course…i was only looking at my team….cant do it sadly

    Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 12:43

    Option 2 … though I suspect you have better options than SPP (BE 54 / AV 68)… he is still earning and if you can bench him for the bye he would be a good cover for the remaining byes … then trade him out R14..

HallyMate · 15/05/2017 at 12:09

If I go Marchbank to Dusty and Hannan to Myers this week my team will be:
Def- Laird, Adams, Howe, Lloyd, Rance, Newman (EVW, Stewart)
Mid- Danger, Titchell, Fyfe, Treloar, Dusty, Murphy, Bont, Barrett (Myers, Fisher, Pickett)
Ruck- SandiWitts (Strnadica)
Fwd- Dahlhaus, Macrae, Yeo, Franklin, Nank, Steele (Balic, Parsons)
16 trades and 160k in the bank
How does this compare to where a team should be at this stage of the season? Thanks

    jez_m · 15/05/2017 at 12:34

    Looks good to me – you've only really got two rookie upgrades to do on field plus a few mid-pricers after that.

    Joe. · 15/05/2017 at 12:35

    You are BURNING through the trades. Be careful.

      HallyMate · 15/05/2017 at 12:44

      The way I see it joe is it's okay to burn trades as long as they're not wasted, only need 1 more downgrade to upgrade last 2 onfield rookies leaving 13 trades for injury and underperformers

    Travo · 15/05/2017 at 12:38

    Looks about right, I see you have used a lot of trades. What's your overall ranking?

      HallyMate · 15/05/2017 at 12:42

      sitting at 134th, been as high as 23rd

        Joe. · 15/05/2017 at 12:53

        And you asked "How does this compare to where a team should be at this stage of the season?"

        Right.

    Kev · 15/05/2017 at 12:52

    Like the quick upgrade, HM. I'd hold off trading now until at least round 11. Target Sloane, his price will drop in a big way

      HallyMate · 15/05/2017 at 13:00

      that was the plan Kev! But now his inability to handle a tag has scared me off a little

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:27

    Marchbank BE only 47, not a big fan.

    redherringfc · 15/05/2017 at 16:15

    Assuming Newman has bought himself a few weeks, you'd probably put Marchbank on the bench, so there isn't much point holding him any longer. Hannan is a shot duck. I can't fault your trades.

    Contrary to what some say, if i was in your position i'd still continue to upgrade/downgrade when the rookies look to max out or just to fix that Parsons problem.

    Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 17:37

    Thanks for making us all feel crap about our teams. Lol

      Joe. · 17/05/2017 at 14:54

      No, he is a score-whore.

Steeeve · 15/05/2017 at 12:09

Take a donut with Witts? Can't swing Nank. Only option would be R3 Preuss to Strnadica. Which would mean another round of Parsons/Hannan/Balic dropping turds in my forward line instead of bringing in a forward premo. Thoughts?

    INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:29

    I have the same issue. It's a tough one. I don't want to get rid of Witts. Going up to another ruckman doesn't seem to have enough worth. He's kicking ass for what we paid for him. I also don't want to get rid of Preuss. But it will mean a donut. Don't know Steeeve. I certainly know how you feel

      Harry H · 15/05/2017 at 18:49

      I'm copping the donut as don't want to get rid of Witts. I have it on good authority B Scott made the fair ultimatum to Preuss that if he can total 200 hitouts to advantage and kick 12 in the twos each week he'll be strongly considered

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 12:31

    If Preuss not named this week that is it for him

      Steeeve · 15/05/2017 at 13:38

      If he could be named just for this week that would be absolutely bloody fantastic!

      FCAbel · 15/05/2017 at 16:04

      Better to trade pruess if between him and witts

    Babo · 15/05/2017 at 13:45

    As I expected to do so, Witts needs to be upgraded. Who is the best option is the real question…

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 16:59

      Witts doesn't need to be upgraded, you'll be upgrading him just to score well in round 9, when your trade in ruck will be out in a later round anyway.

      Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 17:48

      Liking Goldie at this stage.

    Goat · 16/05/2017 at 08:05

    Pruess is in my team long term. Saving him for a rainy day. Nothing compelling in the ruck to warrant attention for just 1 Rd.

iLoveNMFC · 15/05/2017 at 12:11

Thoughts community?

SPP to Myers

AND

Hannan to J Kelly or Martin

    Jimmy · 15/05/2017 at 17:22

    I recommend you don't go for kelly, great player but not a top ten mid IMO. Rather go for someone proven of similar price like JPK.
    Just my thoughts

    Ja191 · 15/05/2017 at 17:30

    I'd hold SPP, still a bit more $ to make and should be useful through the bye rounds. and you'd much prefer a JPK/Crips/Selwood eg then Kelly. Martin should be good too

      iLoveNMFC · 15/05/2017 at 17:54

      I've got JPK, Selwood is under an injury cloud and Cripps can be a little up and down sometimes.

LoganJosh7 · 15/05/2017 at 12:14

RIP this community convincing me to trade newman when he wasnt named.

oh supercoach

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 12:33

    I was told to keep him another week by our friends here, was told to get rid of Hampton instead. Pretty happy about that advice

      LoganJosh7 · 15/05/2017 at 13:51

      hampton was my first trade

    Daizy · 15/05/2017 at 14:55

    Make a decision on ur own.
    Too many rely on people to make crystal ball decisions for them then get upset when the advice doesn't come off.

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:29

      Exactly.

      LoganJosh7 · 15/05/2017 at 15:35

      oh relax ya babies – im more deploring supercoach in general. besides the people who complain that our scores arnt similar to DT scores are way worse 😉

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:29

    lol who told you to trade out newman?

    FCAbel · 15/05/2017 at 16:05

    Should gave held him. He did really well

    Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 17:53

    I don't remember pushing your trade button??

jimbo · 15/05/2017 at 12:15

Community,
First trade is Hampton to Myers via Berry but am not to sure with who to upgrade Butler to?
OPTION 1: Butler>Macrae leaving $130k
OPTION 2: Butler>Stef via Nank leaving 170k
OPTION 3: Butler to Goldy via Nank.
Stef and Goldy have bottomed out this round and will most likely smash their BE's as goldy plays melbourne.
On the other hand macrae is steady and it doesnt look like his price will be fluctuating too much.
Should i go bang to a ruck now or bring in macrae for some consistency, team is travelling decently at this stage.
CHeers

    Jack · 15/05/2017 at 14:46

    Buy low, sell high. McRae is a must have forward indeed, but keep a lookout for a poorer game from him and a price fall. The money you save by going to Stef Martin now may come in handy when bringing McRae in later whereas Martin's price will rise from here on out.

    It's that reason that I'm opting for Heeney this week over McRae.

    redherringfc · 15/05/2017 at 16:24

    Sauce looks the real deal, at 510k, might not be this low again.

      redherringfc · 15/05/2017 at 17:45

      525, not 510. still good value.

Wellsey · 15/05/2017 at 12:16

While Hampton and Otten are getting a game, I'm holding. They'll even out at between $300 – $370k with their poxy average and can be downgraded when an appropriate option presents or upgraded to a called premium with $100-$150k. With my shot at the $50k all but knackered, I'm saving trades for a late run at my cash league. Just need to scrape into finals. Plan to have enough trades and bankroll to cover the ensuing resting drama that is certain to come my way.

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 17:00

    They should both be gone, but whatever.

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 17:13

    One should've been traded to EVW*

    Other could've been upgraded to a cheap Shaw, Simmo etc.

      lok · 15/05/2017 at 17:17

      EVW not that good.

        redherringfc · 15/05/2017 at 17:43

        not newman like, but 79 isn't too bad.

INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:19

Can anyone recall a better rookie performance? I can't recall a rookie ever cracking 150. If horse doesn't pick him this week I'll be paying his a personal visit. That was a masterclass. It came from 77% TOG. Which means he sat on the pine for 1/4 of the game. Absolutely astonishing

    iLoveNMFC · 15/05/2017 at 12:24

    Cripps’ 172 a few years ago was decent.

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:35

      Ah yes in New Zealand. I'll pay that. But it was his 2nd season. He played 3 games in his first season & entered that season at an inflated rookie price. But boy was he worth it

        LoganJosh7 · 15/05/2017 at 13:52

        barlow first year did some amazing things i recall? dont think he hit 150 tho…

        neil demons delight · 15/05/2017 at 18:56

        oliver last week not bad

      Kim · 15/05/2017 at 18:22

      It was but wasn't his first season so doesn't count in my book as a rookie

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 12:36

    I think Oxley might have gone 150

    Travo · 15/05/2017 at 12:47

    Yeah I agree, he does everything right for SC. Kick to handball ratio is great as is Disposal Efficiency and marks from opposition kicks quiet often. I think he might end up being a keeper.

      Filthy Phil · 15/05/2017 at 13:16

      Hopefully he's a keeper in Horse's eyes too as that's the only coach that really matters. If he drops him this week with Rampe expected back I'm likely to lash out at the nearest object, be it living or inanimate, so hopefully my kids keep their distance Thursday night!

        INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:03

        Rampe still listed as 2 weeks. Most of the media plays supercoach. Surely someone will ask horse what he thought of Newman's game. I guess we might learn more after that. I'm not confident he holds his place long term. One thing is for sure Newman has a game that champion data rates. Last week he scored 154 in the NEAFL. This week 151 in the AFL. He is a scoring beast

    Steeeve · 15/05/2017 at 13:40

    What about Connor Menadue's 130-odd from last year? That was like Ablett scoring 500,000

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:04

      Who could forget the one off Spuadue game!

      redherringfc · 15/05/2017 at 16:26

      equalled his season point from all other games, if i'm not mistaken.

    Bells · 15/05/2017 at 13:43

    Surely Barlow put in a few similar ones his first year.
    But that was timed beautifully for me. I beat the No1 and No2 in both my leagues thanks to he and Sam Reid going ballistic.

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:09

      I just looked it up Bells & your right. In his first game he scored 151. He did it again in the same season. Cast your eyes on these numbers people. A 116 Av in his first season. His broken leg against Port ended his season
      http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-gold-coast-

        Derek · 15/05/2017 at 14:27

        what ever happened to Michael Barlow…. does he still play?

          Juzzy · 15/05/2017 at 15:10

          First player to kick a goal in China.

          His name will live on forever in pub trivia quizzes.

    lok · 15/05/2017 at 14:12

    Barlow, Cripps and Zorko were the best rookie picks from memory.

    Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 17:55

    What about Dawson's 150 score across 10 games 😛

      neil demons delight · 15/05/2017 at 19:00

      check out his goal of the year last sat left snap

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:53

    Agree Pieman, it was one of the best ever. Horse must play him every game.

Zach · 15/05/2017 at 12:24

My team as it is
Ranked 11,000 with 20k leftover
Simpson, Williams, laird (Stewart)
Adams, marchbank, Newman (Hampton)

Danger, Hanners, treloar, t.mitchell
Selwood, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper, taranto
(Fisher, Barrett, Pickett)

Grundy, Sandilands
(Strandica)

Franklin, McRae, Dalhaus
Nankervis, Roughead, Hoskin Elliot
(Parsons, Eddy)

What trades this week help me out

    Matze · 15/05/2017 at 12:58

    Depends how many trades youve got up your sleeve? Hampton needs the boot but just him out doesn't give you much coin to play with. youll probably have to double down with pretty much zero def rooks on the bubble. You could bring in mcniece and trade Pickett out for Myers? I'd be stuck too!

    Alternatively you could trade out Hampton and WHE and that gives you 680k ish to spend on maybe heeney/yeo and a rookie or doch and a rook??

    Or just one trade Hampton down to anyone playing in defence.

Filthy Phil · 15/05/2017 at 12:24

What the fark is up with bloody Joel Selwood? I traded the prick in for $600K a fortnight ago thinking he was going to get going and also help me with my bye structures and he's now leaking cash like a sieve and will probably be below $500K soon. Should've got Yeo in instead when I had the chance who is already priced more than Selwood now. 🙁

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 12:39

    ankle clearing a problem

    INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:39

    Selwood picked up a leg injury the previous week & really battled to get up for the game. He was hampered. What concern me more is his team. They look rubbish when Selwood & Danger aren't firing. No one steps up

      Holty · 15/05/2017 at 13:06

      True. Same can be said for the Crows. Its all good for their young midfield to be firing when up by 10 goals but very concerning when it gets tough and they seem to run scared from the contest. Sloane is their engine room. He seems to be their only tough nut in the contest so shut him down and bye bye Adelaide. Pyke i think needs a 2nd game plan when Sloane is tagged as they are getting beat up in congestion.

        INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 13:21

        Great point Holty. Tag the crap out of Sloane & your more than half a chance. It's happened the last 2 weeks

        FCAbel · 15/05/2017 at 16:08

        Bring in one if those Champion SANFL rookies and save us all Pike

    Mystic Mac · 15/05/2017 at 12:48

    I'm in the same boat Phil. He'll come good though.

    DavidSA · 15/05/2017 at 12:52

    SuperCoach 101 trade in

    Never pay more than 550k for anyone (bring in fallen prices not inflated) Now I get to look at him for about 100k cheaper and miss his crap scores too.

    My last 2 paint the fence weeks netted me Franklin 444k last week and Kelly 504k this week.

    Btw this year we need to pick up players even cheaper. People who did not start with Bont or Doch need to be aware that if your happy pay 600k it will Squeeze your cash and variety of choices for the next Upgrade.

      Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 13:03

      Bonts should be slightly cheaper after his bye – under $600k, but no where near $550k unfortunately.

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:35

      You have to be 'happy' to pay premium for the best players though or you fall behind.

      Bont started at 586K and doesn't look like falling below that, and you miss his scoring all year, same with Docherty.

        Moustachio · 15/05/2017 at 17:50

        Same with Gawn, Danger, Pendles and NRoo?

          whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 20:19

          Last year yep. You can't anticipate who will drop form, get injured etc.

          If you wait for players to drop below 550K to get them just accept you will not have the best players every year, simple.

      FCAbel · 15/05/2017 at 16:09

      Been waiting nearly one and a half seasons for doc. Still waiting.

    Loop · 15/05/2017 at 13:21

    The previous week he was on about 70 points at half time then got injured. I had the C on him. I've had him from the start and he was good in the early rounds. You have nothing to complain about – I bought in the "fallen premo" Pendlebury, thats worked well.

    Rob · 15/05/2017 at 13:31

    That's why you never start Selwood or pay top dollar for him. Invariably every season something goes wrong and you can almost always pick him up around the byes for around $500K. Anyone who has played supercoach for more than a few years knows this and hey presto it's proving true yet again.

      Derek · 15/05/2017 at 14:23

      he will play no matter what, i'm not a Geelong fan, but i admire the way selwood plays. He has always been one of the first picked in my team. Even though he has only scored 75, it was amazing he even played. goes to show, when selwood is down, geelong are down

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:36

      Yep I never lock in Selwood, it can backfire as he scores big sometimes but has bad lows.

bUCKET__ · 15/05/2017 at 12:25

Goldy vs Pederson is looking delicious after seeing how many hitouts Jacobs ate up this weekend. Welcome to my side, you underpriced horndog!

    INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 12:54

    74 hit outs to 22 was a slaying. Makes the Dees win all the more impressive. My concern with Goldy is opposition with good midfields shark him. He doesn't have a great midfield under his feet & so I can't see those massive scores we have seen in the past. Nonetheless you raise a good point

    Just Jeff · 15/05/2017 at 13:34

    All those poor sods who traded out Goldy early in the season must be hating life right now. With Preuss nowhere to be seen now and Waite back this week it's the prime time to pounce on Goldy. Also has a useful round 12 bye for the cherry on top.

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:15

      I traded Goldy out when he was about to crash in price & Preuss looked like a perma selection. But I did use the Goldy money to get MacRae & Hanners. I'm not upset with that. Now I could get Goldy back cheap

SCDamien · 15/05/2017 at 12:49

How seriously can we take Walters?

    INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 13:27

    Oh boy. Now that is a ballsy pick. Relying on Ross to look after you & keep him in that role all season is the ultimate balls out call. You are really temping the gods here. If he goes back forward you can look forward to the 28 scores like he did the week before the 2 tonnes. Good luck

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:37

    Oh crap………

    FCAbel · 15/05/2017 at 16:11

    Should make decent cash at worst if he goes fwd when Hill returns.

KICKITDOWNTHEGUTS · 15/05/2017 at 12:54

Anyone else got the Witts dilemma this week?
If Pruess isn't named then I'm think of going straight up to an underpriced Goldy or maybe even Ryder, two tonnes in a row and creates a dpp link with Nank in the forward line?
Thoughts? Keeping in mind I'm not keen on copping a donut.

    Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 12:58

    Might want to reconsider your timing … Ryder has a bye this week.

      KICKITDOWNTHEGUTS · 15/05/2017 at 13:55

      Haha good call…

Boltons Blues · 15/05/2017 at 12:58

What the flaming hell do with do with the spud treloar?
If he isn't selected I've considering trading him down to Myers, and using the cash to upgrade either, Butler, Balic, Parsons, pending selection

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:38

    Ditched him last week his injury was the perfect excuse.

    redherringfc · 15/05/2017 at 16:29

    he'll be back and hopefully score like we know he can. I'm holding for a couple of weeks if necessary. I won't make full premo if i waste trades like that.

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 16:49

      Using trades and wasting trades are two very different things.

      Moustachio · 15/05/2017 at 17:57

      You won't make full premo if you hold onto non-premos

        Frank the Tank · 15/05/2017 at 22:15

        JPK showed on the weekend why you hold onto your premiums. Hold.

DavidSA · 15/05/2017 at 13:01

I dont have Pendles but what are season long holders gonna do?
Guys gonna drop down to 525k most likely the next two games he plays which is insane.

Sideways trading to generate cash might be a good option players like

Viney
Gaff
Scully especially – very cheap has not hit the tonnes too much but is in the 90's heaps and will generate most cash by the sideways downgrade in price.

But of course the above is just one option, hold him or not is a defining moment for people with him

    DavidSA · 15/05/2017 at 13:03

    Scully 3 90's and 3 100's and will net you 83k in bank

    INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 13:36

    Can't trade Pendles unless he's injured. The signs are very worrying. He's lost pace & can't escape contests the way he has for a decade. It's like watching Superman not being able to fly. He's also carrying a bad case of baby brain. Happens with your first child. For owners I think we can only suck it up & hope things change. If Pendles was in half decent form the Pies would have won that game by 5 goals. But he isn't. In fact that was the worst game if ever seen him play. Much worse than Anzac day. But if you start sideways trading premos you run out of bullets quickly

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:39

    HOOOOOOOOOOOLD

    Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 19:33

    Trading Pendles is like trading Yabletttttttt. You just don't do it!

    Dogs · 15/05/2017 at 20:14

    Hold, his value means nothing. Had him from the start, will only trade if LTI

Bitta · 15/05/2017 at 13:07

I think its time for Matty Crouch to go, just wont be top 10, so would going up to Merrett be a good pick?

    DavidSA · 15/05/2017 at 13:09

    not a bad trade
    A guy who is 50k cheaper in Martin might be the pick of the week if looking to upgrade in the guts

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:39

    Merrett all the way.

Paco · 15/05/2017 at 13:18

would i be too late on berry?

    DavidSA · 15/05/2017 at 13:21

    I think so bud

    Dnoyes · 15/05/2017 at 13:43

    He probably won't make too much cash. I think he'll get to about 300,000. He does however have very good job security and is a useful dpp player. Might be helpful for your team structures, especially with the byes coming up.

    Cpt Pugwash · 15/05/2017 at 20:22

    Not at all. With all the great options about (insert sarcasm).

    I'd say he'll be on the paddock til seasons end. Safe.

    Better than burning a trade on a 3-4 game rookie then he's dropped for the rest of the season.

    It's pay overs season for secure rookies people.

      Paco · 15/05/2017 at 22:17

      good call!

DavidSA · 15/05/2017 at 13:18

Just a practice 2 trades atm

Butler > Walters
Marchbank > Hibberd

Dice · 15/05/2017 at 13:26

can someone inform me of the story involving Mark Murphy and St Kilda??
i know they got stuck into him but im hearing somehow Wayne Carey is involved?
surely hasn't done something stupid again.

    red · 15/05/2017 at 16:23

    I read that Jake Carlisle did a a family related sledged to Murphy.
    Murphy then gave him a ear full when him was on the ground.
    Jarryn Geary then saw that without knowing the fall story and had a go at Murphy which caused the all in.
    I've never heard such booing before by the Saints supporters against Murphy.
    Goes to show you need to get a better idea of whats happened before you make a jugement on someone.

      Holty · 15/05/2017 at 17:39

      You would have to think what was said would be well below the belt for Smurph to even say anything. He is normally one of the fairest players in the game so for him to react, it is very surprising

    Cpt Pugwash · 15/05/2017 at 20:25

    I didn't say anything about Murphy's Mrs. I just thought it.

    Bang Bang!

Winter · 15/05/2017 at 13:36

SPP to Merrett
OR
WHE to Stef Martin

Other trade is Otten to Myers

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 20:06

    depends on bye structure. SPP will carry you through the byes though and probably still has more cash to make than WHE – stef is a guaranteed number one in his position.

Craig · 15/05/2017 at 13:43

Well if ever there was a year to run a midpriced setup this was certainly the season to do it. Not only have we seen perhaps the most abysmal ensemble of rookies in supercoach history but so many of our ultra premos have failed to perform anywhere near their initial price point. Eevery season we have our fair share of fallen premos I know but nothing like this. In fact so shocking have some of ultra premos been that we are actually preferring to hold trades rather than upgrade the likes of Jones, Marchbank, Steele, Witts, Sandi that we would usually do without thinking in years past.

    draw16 · 15/05/2017 at 14:14

    Not necessarily the year of the midpricer. Yes there have been success stories (like every season), but there have also been your JOM, DSwallow and Roughy to give you a headache. Disclaimer: I started with all 3 mentioned and have burnt trades getting them out. It all depends on your starting selections at Round 1 lockout.

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:46

      Compared to other years it's the year of the mid pricers.

      Guns and rookie strategy has failed, had to see it coming though at the start of the year.

      A majority of the popular mid price picks have succeeded, not failed. You just picked them wrong.

      Randomcliche2 · 15/05/2017 at 23:12

      Its tough, but I think the ratio of outperforming midpricer to gun premo from the year prior is way down. Which makes it easy to think that people who picked the right strategy would pick a great team. I also think people didn't pay enough attention to the 200-400k players given the prevalence and success of previous GnR strategies. In hindsight, you probably only needed 6 full blown premos (Doc + Adams (perhaps Laird), a couple of younger mid guns like Titch/Bont/Mitchell, plus Dahl and McCrae with a team filled out with the likes Yeo, Higgins, Steele, Witts (okay a rookie), Sandi, Murphy, Oliver, even Beams till injury, Robertson, Lloyd, and you'd be living the dream. But you're right. It's not easy picking a mid priced madness team. My midpriced madness league is doing okay 446/25k, but not smashing it, there are 2 who are around the 1k rank. Not enough Murphy/Oliver/Yeo action for serious out-performance.

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 14:18

    the rookies i understand. the last 5 years we have been blessed with Suns, GWS, Essendon, even Port having a heap of rookies who have scored well.

    The Guns have been hard to pick. As Carlos says, it is the changing of the Guard.

    I just had a look and i have only 4 out of the top 20 highest averaging players for 2017 to date. I guess my Premiums are all still from the Old School. Still along way to go and i'm certain the Hard Nut, warhorses will still prevale over the young colts

      neil demons delight · 15/05/2017 at 14:48

      Zac Dawson's left foot snap nominated for goal of the year check it out Derek absolutely brilliant could be a sneaky in maybe

        Derek · 15/05/2017 at 15:20

        mate i've already seen it, i'm all over it. he has been held back as a defender.

INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 13:46

Treloar owners. One thing I noticed in the GWS game was the significant improvement & functionality of the Pies forward line with Ben Reid in it. For the first time in a long time it looked dangerous. If Reid stays there (but who knows the genius Buckley) Treloar's scoring will improve out of sight. Hold him

    David · 15/05/2017 at 13:52

    Good point Pie although it won't count for sh1t is his groin is f*cked. If he doesn't play this week and Collingwood are again coy on his injury then plenty will move him on for one of the plethora of quality fallen premos we have right now.

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:18

      Treloar doesn't even tell football clubs when he has groin surgery

        neil demons delight · 15/05/2017 at 14:56

        when are the pies going to dump Buckley.Surely enough enough he;s simply rubbish and the team suffers. . why wasn't someone front and centre to stop SJ under 10's stuff

          INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 16:58

          I've been wanting rid of Buckley for years. He's no good. Eddie's pride is the problem

            neil demons delight · 15/05/2017 at 19:39

            and buckleys brain not the problem how long has he got pies The team is quite good really and losses have been by small margins

            Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 21:32

            Buckley is Eddies love child

          Scott · 16/05/2017 at 11:27

          That's not Buckley's fault you clown. He's not out there with 20 seconds on the clock to ensure there's a man goal side of Stevie J. That's the players fault. They did that. They kick 20 behinds every week. They turn the ball over. Stop blaming Buckley. The pies kick straight this year and there wouldn't be a discussion about Buckley at all.

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 17:06

    Possibly. But let's face it he's been crap. He got injured. Should've lopped his head off and moved on already……….

    Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 18:39

    Ben Reid out for 4-5 weeks bud

      JoeD · 15/05/2017 at 19:36

      Fark it Treloar is dead to me now! Can't stand to watch the Butcher of Baghdad ply his trade anymore and with no one to kick to now it will be clanger central again. 🙁

    Thomas · 16/05/2017 at 07:47

    Ben Reid out for a month with a quad injury…..

Curious George · 15/05/2017 at 13:48

Any news on treloar and his "ankle" injury?

Babo · 15/05/2017 at 13:51

This is one of those seasons where anything can happen. . .

It would not surprise me to see 5 new names at the top of the overall score for the season this year.

    Geoff B · 15/05/2017 at 13:57

    The byes are going to be a huge sorter of the wheat from the chaff. All those coaches at the top of the sand heap right now who have been side swapping premos, had little regard for their bye structures and have sh1tty benches full of non playing rookies will get found out massively over the next month.

      LoganJosh7 · 15/05/2017 at 14:00

      please yes. cannot believe i have been losing to such coaches. its agonising.

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:19

      Spot on Geoff

    DavidSA · 15/05/2017 at 14:01

    The big 3 I like to call is is Oliver, Yeo and Steele if you started with all 3 your flying

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:21

      Even 2 of them

      Travo · 15/05/2017 at 14:34

      Throw in Marc Murphy too. All teams ahead of me seem to have Oliver and Murph.

Jay · 15/05/2017 at 13:59

What about Dusty? Should be back to some form soon

    Kev · 15/05/2017 at 14:53

    Tiges will get reamed by GWS this week. He loves the Dreamtime clash though, have a look at him then

Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 14:07

Fellas…
How u like these trades
WHE – James Stewart
SPP – Josh Kelly

    Kev · 15/05/2017 at 14:30

    If you have an extra 16k in the bank get Cripps in. I may be wrong but I see Kelly as the main beneficiary of GWS' huge injury list at the moment

      Travo · 15/05/2017 at 15:18

      Disagree Kev. Kelly has been consistent all year and since Conigilio came back into the midfield Kelly has looked even more solid.

        whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:48

        If he didn't just get a 150 you wouldn't be saying this surely.

        Nobody was talking about him last week.

          Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 16:15

          Lowest score of 92 mate, has been very consistent, just hasn't peaked dramatically like others
          He was always in contention of getting picked just not PROVEN yet, until now bud

            whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 16:55

            Great player, but top mid from here on? Highly doubtful.

            whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 16:55

            After checking season rankings he is very high up, good pick but not really proven. Will probably be a lock come 2018……..

              Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 17:11

              Coniglio gone for couple months! Could either play in the hands of Kelly or not… Maybe could increase his UP

                whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 17:15

                Doesn't hurt him that's for sure. Great pick but there's so many fallen premo mids it's incredibly hard to pick. makes things interesting this season though.

                  Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 17:18

                  Very interesting… these decisions will either make or break our seasons.
                  Thinking about it, in order for other clubs to increase their offers for Josh Kelly….. he'll need to play better

Lyndon · 15/05/2017 at 14:12

What's going on With Gazza? Owned him from the start and was so close to rage trading him when he chucked up that insipid effort against GWS. Then he pumped out that double ton a few weeks ago and I thought the old Gazza was back. But since then he can't ton up even though he seems to be getting enough of it. Why do Champion Data all of a sudden hate him? Not sure who is frustrating me the most out or Pendles, Grundy, Shaw or Gazza. It's hard to post a competitive total each week when so many of my full priced premos can't or won't ton up.

    LoganJosh7 · 15/05/2017 at 14:25

    on the wkend he was defs putting the effort in… no other midfielders got near it however. had no help.

    Kev · 15/05/2017 at 14:27

    There's been a big crackdown on contested/uncontested ball, Lyndon. Cheap, sideways kicks/handballs do not register points. When Gaz scored that 210 he had 27 contested possessions. Against Geelong and Port he had 6 and 7 respectively

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:45

      Noticed the same thing Kev. He's not damaging with his ball use either & as a result he isn't scoring. After that Danger tackle he's gone back into his shell for contested stuff. Danger really hurt him

Benjamin B · 15/05/2017 at 14:17

Merrett, Kelly, Titch or Dusty (Bye Friendly)?

    Ja191 · 15/05/2017 at 17:41

    Merrett, kids a gun. Brought him in last week put the C on him.. didn't disappoint — Titch also a good option but i like the price of merrett

Sam · 15/05/2017 at 14:29

Otten, Hampton, Butler, Parsons.. Which of these should I be upgrading (or possibly downgrading) first?

    Kev · 15/05/2017 at 14:50

    I'd cash in Otten. You'll make the most from him. Lost almost 16k this week. With a b..e of 88 and a 3 round average of 62 it's time for him to go.

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:49

    Otten and Hampton should both be gone by this week. One should've gone last week, people are taking way to long to cull.

    I'm not sure why people still have Treloar………….

      Steeeve · 15/05/2017 at 17:52

      Because he's a premo. He's had a poor start but he stormed home last year. The rest will do him some good and he'll storm home again.

      At least I hope so.

      Not enough money being made from rookies to take a huge loss on a premo who could turn out to be a keeper.

      Thomas · 16/05/2017 at 15:05

      Its hard to cull Hampton when there are no rookie defenders on the bubble, and many don't have the cash to upgrade him. I guess there was EVW but he didnt look very promising at the time

INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 14:47

Just been on the phone with a mate of mine who's a blood brother at the Swans. Rampe has been training for 2 weeks & expected to line up this weekend. Brace yourselves

    Curly · 15/05/2017 at 14:51

    Thursday night 6:25pm – Swans team sheet just in:

    IN Rampe OUT Newman

    Thursday night 6:26pm Jock Reynolds website
    "FUUUUUUUUUCK U HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!"

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 15:01

      It's going to be a BARRAGE of abuse Curly. A never before seen barrage

        Neville · 15/05/2017 at 15:11

        Lekdog's cheatsheet comments could be littered with profanities even more so than usual. 🙂

    Jack · 15/05/2017 at 15:15

    God I hope Newman is dropped.

    Babo · 15/05/2017 at 15:19

    Wont they find room for the man who played so well? At someone else's expense..

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 15:28

      You'd think so. But don't forget Horse didn't like Tom Mitchell either. Just because we think he's good means nothing to Horse

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 15:29

    I think Mcveigh will miss this week

      Cogla13 · 15/05/2017 at 17:50

      Yep he'll miss a few weeks with old man injuries.

    Curious George · 15/05/2017 at 15:30

    No way they would drop him after that game
    McVeigh got injured again rampe will replace him

      INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 15:47

      Hope that's the case curious

        Derek · 15/05/2017 at 16:27

        but then again, Jack might also want to come back in…..

          musicissport · 15/05/2017 at 18:36

          Jack is dead in the water and this will be his last year

    Juzzy · 15/05/2017 at 16:42

    Considering Newman does seem to have Tom Mitchell disease all Newman owners can hope for is that he has …

    No conversations with Horse this week, no eye contact, no sudden movements etc …

    If so he should be fine.

      Nutsack · 15/05/2017 at 17:29

      If he does drop him then we know he must have had sloppy seconds with Horse's daughter right after Titch had finished with her.

Rivo · 15/05/2017 at 14:52

Any thoughts please here Community?

    Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 15:33

    I like it mate but SPP still has some cash in him… if i were u i'd wait till teams are announced like me. you dont know, anyone has a possibility of getting named

      Rivo · 15/05/2017 at 16:14

      Thanks Jim. Will do! What a shocker of a season for many of us.

Jono · 15/05/2017 at 15:08

Butler to sauce Jacobs or wait another week for Grundy? Or even godly? Stef doesn't suit my by structure and don't think big boy can keep it up…thoughts?

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 15:26

    Big Boy has been great. Had a very nice run. I had to get him on the Free Agent list in my draft team when Max went down. he has been sensational. Classic case of him becoming a LONE Wolf. had that pesky Hale and Ceglar sharing with him past few years.

Captain Risky · 15/05/2017 at 15:11

Bye Planning… Struggling with round 11.

Looking at this week OUT Hannan & Pruess ,IN Myers & Rance
Next week OUT Marchbank & Williamson IN Dusty & McInnes (Hopefully)

That will leave me with at best 17 players for Round 11 byes. No issues with round 12/13 .

Do we get 3 trades next week??

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 15:23

    we get 3 trades week 11 (first bye round)

    is there anyone from Port or Suns you like the look of. I have Ryder very high on my watchlist

      Kevdup · 16/05/2017 at 17:42

      Also to get ryder next week

        Kevdup · 16/05/2017 at 17:43

        Keen

Tommo09 · 15/05/2017 at 15:15

Tom Lynch villain?
29 points

    The Stare · 15/05/2017 at 16:02

    The Villians are Gold Coast Execs

    Steeeve · 15/05/2017 at 17:53

    Villain is the round 9 bye. I have to wait an extra week for his price to bottom out now. And then welcome my team.

Tommo09 · 15/05/2017 at 15:17

Rookies this week???
Anyone other than Myers??

    The Stare · 15/05/2017 at 16:00

    Only Myers

      Tommo09 · 15/05/2017 at 18:56

      McNiece if he plays??

        Sputnik · 15/05/2017 at 19:26

        Wouldn't expect so Tommo, not after the Bombers pulled off an upset win against the Cats who they had been their b1tch over the past decade. So wouldn't expect many changes by Woosh to mess with that new successful recipe especially for a young rookie who hasn't really done that much in his first two games. That's why coaches needed to do downgrades the past few weeks as this bubble boy wasteland was pretty much anticipated.

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 16:25

    tap…..tap….. is this on?

    INPieman · 15/05/2017 at 16:38

    Durdin

    Macka · 15/05/2017 at 19:28

    <crickets chirping>

Crimewave · 15/05/2017 at 15:17

Traded out Otten to Myers via DPP and Houston to Oliver but any suggestions for other mids, what are we thinking about with Dusty and Kennedy against Oliver?

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 15:51

    You really gonna get Oliver over JPK?

    I have both but it would seem fairly wise to get JPK who is proven over many years for 20K less.

    The Stare · 15/05/2017 at 16:01

    Look at the fallen Premiums over what may become a flash in the pan

The Stare · 15/05/2017 at 15:59

SC LAW – What are the SC rules during the bye rounds? And do these rules apply next week considering Port and GCoast have the bye?

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 16:24

    we just have to suck it up this week. no changes to the rules for this week.

    Sheldon · 15/05/2017 at 17:42

    That's why many coaches in the know didn't start GC or Port keepers as they knew this day would come. They instead make the perfect upgrade sides over the next 2-3 weeks with the likes of Wines, Wingard, Lynch, May, Harbrow etc all potential additions on our shopping lists in the next few weeks as they have nice draws during the main byes (11-13) where they provide full cover.

      Randomcliche2 · 15/05/2017 at 23:51

      I went early on one given I've got full cover on that line. But yes, planning to bring in a few of that crew I think will help immensely, problem is there just so many SC 'issues' from those two teams (such as Gray/Ablett, commendably not explicitly on your list above) I think people will need to be ultra considerate about the balance between rnd 9 and non-round 9 players.

      Derek · 16/05/2017 at 10:13

      Ryder and Wingard are on my watchlist.

FCAbel · 15/05/2017 at 16:14

Option 3 if you can find a cheaper cow. Maybe mcniece? Can you use dpp to get Hampton to Myers? Alternatively forget Heeney and find another premo to bring in with Myers which will fit trade.

    Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 16:17

    That's why we gotta wait till teams are named. Who knows of McNiece will get named, sadly got rested and never got picked again

    Rivo · 15/05/2017 at 17:48

    Thanks FC.
    Not keen on McNiece, poor JS. Think Option 1 is better as Myers looks a good get, Heeney on the up, and I don't have a DPP def to make that happen…

    D: Doc, Laird, Simpson, Shaw, Marchbank, Hampton (EVW, Stewart) .

Joshua · 15/05/2017 at 16:25

SPP to Myers
Otten to Adams

    The Stare · 15/05/2017 at 16:38

    do it dude Adams is a must

      Joshua · 15/05/2017 at 16:48

      yeah he is absolutely flying, started Shaw and Doc then decided Laird over Adams. Heath is killing me!

      Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:56

      proceed with caution – look at team lists r.e. injury before jumping on the bus

        Joshua · 15/05/2017 at 20:41

        He's in a moon boot for precaution yeah?,hope it's nothing more

Jugger · 15/05/2017 at 16:25

How many
weeks is Rockliff out for?

    Sauce · 15/05/2017 at 16:54

    Probs 2 weeks but then has a r11 bye so should be right r12 I'm holding

      Derek · 15/05/2017 at 17:21

      i heard them say two weeks. Seems not enough for a dislocated shoulder. then Lions have Round 11 bye, see him in round 12 would be amazing.

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 16:57

    Being highest ranked SC scorer he is a hold.

    Reality Check · 15/05/2017 at 17:48

    Sadly he has to go I'd say. Can't hold an ultra premo for that long unless you don't give a stuff about rank. Not having surgery I gather so very likely it will pop out again and this time coaches might not be so lucky as fortunately it happened right at the end of the game this time around. Could easily pop out in the opening minutes in his next game in round 12 or whenever he actually comes back.

      Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 18:37

      Fellas his shoulder popped back in immediately, meaning he will be on the sideline for a couple weeks at MAX…..

        BigBoyBananana · 15/05/2017 at 21:01

        Not necessarily true Jim, all depends on structural damage. The fact it popped in straight away is very positive though! #PrayForRocky

Mark · 15/05/2017 at 17:08

Who would you choose out of Oliver, Priddis, dusty, or yeo (would put parsons on bench)

    Mark · 15/05/2017 at 17:16

    Or josh kelly

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 17:17

    Maybe Yeo to get Parsons off the ground.

      Mark · 15/05/2017 at 17:33

      Yeah that's what I'm thinking but he is a bit pricy for a fwd

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:55

    Yeo has a good bye and will get parsons off ground – is expensive though

    Panthers1738 · 16/05/2017 at 07:17

    Oliver

Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 17:12

Yeo

Jim_bob321 · 15/05/2017 at 17:13

*Oliver

Jeff · 15/05/2017 at 17:32

Any good premo forwards that will be consistent over the year other than macrae, dahl, Nank, Kennedy, YEO?

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 20:08

    Ryder

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 20:22

      Didn't go that well vs good rucks in Sandi, Jacobs and Kreuzer. Could of just been lack of form though hard to say. He is tempting.

    SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 20:31

    Heeney

    Randomcliche2 · 15/05/2017 at 23:55

    Higgins. Consistently frustrating.

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:23

    Heeney ahead of Dahl

John · 15/05/2017 at 17:32

Any downgrade options for Butler that will play?

    Ja191 · 15/05/2017 at 19:44

    McInnes for eagles 155k def-forward. only played the one game with 67.. apart from that Parsons – kids gonna finish averaging 150

Andy · 15/05/2017 at 17:36

Tom Mitchell or JPK?

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:55

    Look at bye structures. Both will average the same from here on in.

      Panthers1738 · 16/05/2017 at 07:16

      Mitchell

Tyruddanaut · 15/05/2017 at 17:37

Leave now pendles get out of my team
Of course there's a time for all legendary players to come to a fall and with behavior like his on the weekend, when he pretended to leave, I would say "Pendles, have a week off"

With his child coming around his score is going to drop miles. It's not only the sleepless nights but the confidence too.
My grandfather was in the field, he also is a Vietnam veteran, but when he had my mother, he changed to the other side of the police force that you don't see in movies.
Pendles won't go into contests as hard and won't play like he should. Stay away for the rest of the season.

It time that I trade him out only lost me 20k so I'll be happy to boot him. Trading savvy is what this game is about, not waiting until they are so pathetic a brick wall will be better.
I'm predicting this big fall and saying goodbye to the man

    Steeeve · 15/05/2017 at 17:54

    Seems a tad presumptive. Hold.

      Marcus · 15/05/2017 at 17:56

      Traded him in 2 weeks ago. Sums up my trades this year pretty well

        Just Jeff · 15/05/2017 at 18:08

        You weren't alone Marcus. Plenty of us were sucked in at exactly that point. All the podcasts were raving about his past average against the Blues and considering he was $70K cheaper than his starting price it appeared to be the optimal time to get him in. I think folks are over reacting a little though. The Giants generally do a number on the fantasy scores of their opposition. Wouldn't surprise if he bounced back this week against the Hawks who bleed plenty of points themselves, just ask all the happy Saints owners last week.

          Just Jeff · 15/05/2017 at 18:09

          Well other than Nroo owners lol!

          Tyruddanaut · 15/05/2017 at 19:26

          Forget about team history. This is his personal situation

            Marcus · 15/05/2017 at 19:56

            Jeff at least you didn't trade goldy to grundy. Has got to be my worst trade ever

              Keith · 15/05/2017 at 21:38

              Yep you're the Lone Ranger their pal. That's what listening to Jock gets ya. He'd been selling Grundy to anyone who would listen.

          Derek · 15/05/2017 at 21:40

          I posted below. Look at his games coming up

    Alan · 15/05/2017 at 21:16

    Geez some people really have no idea how to play SuperCoach. No wonder my ranking typically soars in the 2nd half each season as so many of the pretenders fall away with moves like this.

      Zach · 15/05/2017 at 21:35

      It's certainly a good way to run out of trades like all those pathetic teams you see at the end of the season with a bunch of injured premos because their trade well ran dry weeks ago with all the sideways trades they "thought" made sense at the time.

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 21:27

    I was actually looking to get him. He has 6 of the next 7 games at MCG against teams that Collingwood can beat: Hawks, Lions, Freo, Melb, Port, Essendon and Suns.

    Has a round 13 bye.

    Will be under $530k next week.

    Wow

      dSaSPatSfcB · 15/05/2017 at 22:06

      Collingwood couldn't beat a drum with a wooden leg.

      Tyruddanaut · 16/05/2017 at 07:02

      Collingwood were meant to smash Carlton. Look how that turned out. I was watching talking footy last night and they said that it is one of the closest seasons ever. Anyone can win on any given day

        Derek · 16/05/2017 at 10:11

        every season is the same. each week we have a new Flag Favorite. i remember last year, literally every week the experts had a new flag favorite.

      JohndJames · 16/05/2017 at 17:16

      Melbourne has won the last three againts the pies by five goals or more.

SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 17:44

Isaac Heeney or Stef Martin.

Only problem with trading in Heeney is that I will have 4 premos out in Rd 11, Dahl, Buddy and Macrae.

    Tyruddanaut · 15/05/2017 at 17:54

    Martin then

    Jono · 15/05/2017 at 18:01

    Lions and swans have the same bye

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:54

    Same bye? 4 premos isn't that many anyways

      SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 20:30

      sorry, I meant to say in my fwd line ill have 4 premos out. I have a few other guys that have the rd11 bye in other positions.

Tyruddanaut · 15/05/2017 at 17:53

I would like to add, completely different point, the unpredictability of SuperCoach
The team of the week will be written like normal and the (top team of average will be in brackets)

Def: Newman, Doch, Hurley, Laird, Hurn, McDonald-Tipungwuti
(Def: Doch, Laird, Adams, Roberton, Lloyd, Harbrow)
2 of 6 are the same – Doch and Laird

Mid: Cripps, Rocky, Kelly, Oliver, Zerrett, JPK, Billings, Titch
(Mid: Rocky, Bont, Neale, Sloan, Murphy, Oliver, Danger, Titch)
3 of 8 – Titch, Rocky and Oliver

Ruck: Jacobs, Martin
Ruck: (Martin, Nank)
1 of 2 – Martin

Fwd: Walters, Billings, Heeney, Reid, Petracca, Cameron
(Fwd: Yeo, Heeney, Macrae, JJK, Dahl, Pederson)
1 of 6 – Heeney

Altogether there are 15 of 22 or about two thirds of players that scored in the top 6 but their average is below.
I think these options would be safe for choosing but that's not the point of this
SuperCoach is unpredictable, don't expect to get anything. Expect to get 1500 – 3000 each week
Who know you might even get more or less

Mystic Mac · 15/05/2017 at 18:02

Adams was in a moon boot yesterday. Said it was precautionary. Should we be alarmed?

    SCased · 15/05/2017 at 18:23

    No LOL

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:53

    yup. Hearing taylor adams and injury in the same sentence are a massive worry. That is the exact reason I didn't bring him in at the start of the year – very similar to rocky….

      Moustachio · 16/05/2017 at 16:38

      How's that working out so far?

    Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 20:06

    Nah, he likes moon boots … 🙂
    He was wearing one the week before the season started… was wearing one this time last year and even trained in one the year before … someone buy him a blanket …

    Jefferson · 15/05/2017 at 21:13

    Last week everyone was in a tiz over a hand injury at training but he still played and played well. Until teams sheets come out on Thursday I wouldn't be getting your knickers in a knot. There will be plenty of time to panic later. 🙂

      Derek · 15/05/2017 at 21:38

      That's what the panic room is for

Vicki · 15/05/2017 at 18:04

Thoughts please.

Trading out Otten
Best back to bring in please and do you feel any of these will be a top 6 back
Hibberd, Lloyd, Rance, or Simmo.
Thank you for your help.

    pod · 15/05/2017 at 18:12

    Rance a chance

    Joshua · 15/05/2017 at 18:18

    Rance, if Byes arent an issue Lloyd

    Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 20:14

    After Doc, Laird, Adams and Roberton, the 2 remaining from Simmo, Williams, Lloyd and latecomer Hurley.

    Jock Skidmore · 16/05/2017 at 14:47

    Shaw is cheap, may help if cash an issue

Jack · 15/05/2017 at 18:24

21 Trades – 128k. Advice re Bye planning and trades this week?
Shaw, Tuohy, Otten, Newmann, Marchbank, Berry (Hampton, Hibberd)
Adams, Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, JPK, Macrae, Merrett, Pepper, (Beams, Barrett, Balik)
Martin, Sandi (Strnadica)
Nank, Buddy, Roughy, Dahl, Taranto, Butler (Eddy, Parsons)

MichaelQLD · 15/05/2017 at 18:31

It's a funny ole season. Although some coaches have been unlucky copping some LTIs , so far has been nothing compared to last season where he had injury after injury to popular players. But this year it's been the year of the sucker punch. See some premo who looks ripe for the picking who perhaps has a favourable draw coming up and the minute you get them in they suddenly forget how to play footy or pick up some niggle that puts a handbrake on their scoring. I know there are some exceptions like Yeo, Bont or Doch but that hasn't been the general experience for mnost. Or just as bad get rid of some premo who has been spudding it for weeks on end and the moment you do they post 120+ and then continue pumping out tons after that. It's been frustrating as f*ck if you pardon my french especially when most of our rookies have been laying turd after turd. Haven't scored over 2K in over month dealing with all this sh!t.

Paul · 15/05/2017 at 18:34

Hi Community

Thoughts please.
Option 1: Otten to Hurley
Option 2: Otten to Rance.

Thank you.

    Northernsoul74 · 15/05/2017 at 19:17

    Hurley.

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:51

    Rance is proven and has a higher ceiling, as well as the better bye. Hurley is the more consistent player this year – but is a touch more expensive.

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:51

    Dance easy

Adam · 15/05/2017 at 18:42

Thoughts?
SPP>Myers and D.Swallow>Neale

    Randomcliche2 · 16/05/2017 at 00:16

    Depends whether you can cover the bye players this week….if you can….you'll thank yourself later.

Chris_Judd · 15/05/2017 at 18:43

Is it too late to bring in Yeo? Have enough money to bring in any forward and already have dahlhaus and Macrae. If it it too late, what are some other options up forward?

    Danners · 15/05/2017 at 18:50

    Wait a couple of weeks for Yeo to go back down, Heeney looks to be an alright option. If you feel like taking a punt or risky play, maybe have a look at Gunston at $400k.

      pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:28

      Are you drunk?

    Sputnik · 15/05/2017 at 18:52

    If you want him bad then by all means do it but with cash being super tight this season you will likely pay a price at some point during the season which may mean settling on a quasi premo for your M8, F6, D6 spots. Or perhaps having to keep a guy like WHE, Otten or Marchbank around all season. For me the cutoff is $550K and Yeo now exceeds that threshold so he's a personal no go zone at his current price. In fact I'll preferably be trying to spend under $500K on many of my remaining upgrades if at all possible. Otherwise there is little chance of getting to full premo unless you've nailed most of your rookies and midpricers which most of us haven't.

      Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 20:20

      So you would pass on the top FWD for a miserly $8k … it will be $15k next week…

        whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 20:32

        But but it's a rule people have made. Haha

    SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 20:26

    I would wait until he drops down to 500k

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 21:17

    I watched him on weekend and boy was he lucky to have a decent score. 53 at 3/4 time. Dogs panicked in last quarter and kicked it to a two on one a lot. Yeo was the extra in defence and racked up 7 interceptions. Won't happen every week. Way over priced now.

    Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 21:43

    Heeney a must get this week imo 107 average (better than Dahl and McCrae) with a low breakeven of 44. Jump on!

TheGreatBozza · 15/05/2017 at 18:59

Horror weekend. I had planned on loopholing Berry with Newman but forgot about it as I was too busy watching my Pies… meaning I left Stewart on the field and lost a critical cash league match, while slipping to 20k after being top 5000 two weeks ago. It's been a tough season

    Rivo · 16/05/2017 at 08:34

    Feeling your pain Bozza. Very similar run for my team, carnage.

Danny · 15/05/2017 at 19:03

Should i take Rockliff's donut this week?

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:50

    No. He will be out for at least 2 or 3 weeks. Time to move him on – benefit is that you can get anyone.

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 20:09

    If playing for leagues, yes.

    Randomcliche2 · 16/05/2017 at 00:18

    I'm considering holding if out till Rnd 12. But we'll know tomoz hopefully what the right course of action is. My substitution list will read like the lions team sheet. In Beams, Out Rockliff.

DefyingMadness · 15/05/2017 at 19:13

Need help getting rid of some blokes who are going to start bleeding cash.
Going to keep Witts and sub nank into the rucks. This leaves me with a possible donut if Parsons gets dropped. Probably going to need to paint the fence and bring in a premo. Any suggestions are welcome because I am possibly in a lot of trouble
Here is my team, also got 120k in the bank and 19 trades remaining. Ranked in the top 5%

Defenders
Laird, Adams, Rance,
Shaw, Marchbank, Otten
(Hampton, Stewart)

Midfielders
Danger, Tmitch, Zerret, JPK,
Fyfe, Treloar, Taranto, SPP
(Barret, Balic, Berry)

Rucks
Sandi, Witts, (Strn)

Forwards

Yeo, Macrae, Dahl
Heeney, Nank, Butler
(Eddy, Parsons)

    hjhjhj · 15/05/2017 at 19:45

    out Otten Hampton SPP Dahl Butler

      NickMacMan · 15/05/2017 at 19:48

      relax on dahl mate, the others i agree with

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 20:11

      Season rank of 33 after one bad score. Trading Dahl is an amateur move.

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:49

    I am trading witts – only to avoid that doughnut and the need to field my spud forward rookies

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 20:03

    Eddy to Myers

      DefyingMadness · 15/05/2017 at 22:06

      So should I just suck up the huge cash loss I will suffer? Hoping that Parsons plays so I don't have to make this trade and can paint the fence and bring in Dusty/ Hanners, however if Parsons is dropped I will have no choice

        Derek · 16/05/2017 at 08:53

        Fill the donut first. Eddy to Myers. Or Parsons if not named. Via DPP and swing Taranto forward.

Adam · 15/05/2017 at 19:15

Quick question community.

T Mitchell or P Cripps??

    NickMacMan · 15/05/2017 at 19:17

    t mitch just based on reliability

      fgfgf · 15/05/2017 at 19:46

      T MITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DefyingMadness · 15/05/2017 at 19:28

    tmitch

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:49

    Titch for consistency and Cripps for ceiling

      Moustachio · 16/05/2017 at 08:22

      Titch has a massive ceiling.

    Randomcliche2 · 16/05/2017 at 00:24

    Check ya byes mate, but given the price differential and the ability to pump that into someone else…Cripps. That said I'm running Titch and not Cripps and been pretty happy with him, both as a Hawks supporter and SC owner. DE on the way up, but still not the elite kick of his namesake.

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:21

    Cripps

NickMacMan · 15/05/2017 at 19:24

Should i be trading out Hannan cause he is shit or WHE to make some extra cash?

    Captain Risky · 15/05/2017 at 19:44

    Hannan Yes, Can't make cash with him, sure to be dropped, can't risk him on field.

    WHE No idea, probably worth more, couldn't possibly be worse!

    Unfortunately not any viable downgrade options at present.

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 19:47

    Keeping WHE onfield will give you at least 45 points extra a week – with hannan certain to be dropped. It really depends who your target is and what the rest of your structure is – if you are leaving hannan on the bench then WHE but if not I would be getting rid of Hannan (the guy is a nigh-on surety to get dropped)

Garry · 15/05/2017 at 19:25

Is Zorko a good replacement for Rockliff?

    TBone · 15/05/2017 at 19:54

    I like Zorko a lot, and for his price definitely worth a look. Im considering him, Dusty or waiting to grab Selwood next week.

don · 15/05/2017 at 19:30

Oliver or JPK?

    Ja191 · 15/05/2017 at 19:39

    JPK proven, Oliver not but looks a freak. Would go JPK myself but a toss up

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 21:10

    No second year player ha averaged consistently over 100 for the entire season. Clayton could very well prove us wrong but JPK is proven and a favourable price.

      Moustachio · 16/05/2017 at 08:20

      Fyfe. Zorko did it in his first year. Don't spread guesses as fact…

      Fair to say that it is quite rare tho.

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:30

    JPK

Marcus Proudson · 15/05/2017 at 19:31

With Adelaide GWS Collingwood and Essendon having a bye in R13, is anyone else looking at this as an absolute nightmare for their defence.!!!! Which players are we looking at to bring in to cover the likes of laird Adams Hurley shaw McGrath Howe not playing

    SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 20:22

    Lloyd, Rance, Doc or Simmo.

aaron · 15/05/2017 at 19:41

Best Premo Mids without rd 11 bye besides Kelly, Merrett, Titch and Dusty?

    TBone · 15/05/2017 at 19:49

    Wines, Ablett, Cotchin, Selwood, Priddis, Goddard, Fyfe, Neale

      aaron · 15/05/2017 at 20:00

      cheers TBone

      whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 20:14

      Would go with Neale, Fyfe or priddis out of those guys.

      Wines a burn man. Selwood up and down. Goddard could hit a crap patch anytime. Cotchin is a having a great season but better options at the price.

        RobDog · 15/05/2017 at 22:55

        Sloane if he can past being tagged, and Ebert is having an outstanding year with his bye next week so plays through the rest.

The gangbanger · 15/05/2017 at 19:54

G'day community,

Ranked top 3000, got 18 trades left after using up two now, and 18000 bucks left in the bank. My best bloody start. Be good to see what you guys reckon.

Check out my team

Back- Laird, Docerty, Shaw, Rance, Marchbank, Stewart. (Berry and Hibberd on the pine)

Middle- Danger, Fyfe, Zac Merett, Tom Mitchell, Adams, Haneberry, Yeo, Sam P Pepper (Barret, Balich, and Myers)

Ruck- Martin and Sandi (stricnica)

Forward- Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Steele, Buddy, Nankervis, Butler (Parsons and Eddy)

Be good to get some advice on my side.

Thanks guys

    Derek · 15/05/2017 at 19:59

    good team. A bit thin in the guts, only 5 keepers in midfield. Who do you have pencilled in?

    Need MaCrae in fwds is a must.

    Lazza · 15/05/2017 at 20:31

    Obviously Adams and Yeo will end up in DEF and FWD.
    I have same FWD & RUC except I have Baltic instead of Parsons. I'm looking at Yeo and Macrae to come in.
    Weakness is in DEF imo, you have 3 keepers including Adams and short 3 in the MID … Bont and 2 others..
    I don't think Shaw and Rance will be top 6..

      Derek · 15/05/2017 at 21:11

      Shaw and Rance will be close enough to top 6 to hold them now.

Steve1 · 15/05/2017 at 20:00

As bad as this season is, i still much rather it then all those seasons with the SUB rule, sucked not knowing if your rookie wold only play 1 quarter.

Neverweaken · 15/05/2017 at 20:08

Who is a defence rookie to bring in for ottens. Or a forward rookie. Painting the fence but which way?

    Mark · 15/05/2017 at 20:34

    I completely forgot about that

    hedski · 15/05/2017 at 21:28

    Up and down…. Unless its a fancy sideways fence.
    Myers by DPP, McNiece?

Pete · 15/05/2017 at 20:11

Gotta get rid of Butler and Houston but only have $52k in the bank so probably not enough for a premo. Who are the 2 best rooks to bring in this week ?

    SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 20:20

    Myers, Durdin or McNiece if named. Or you could go early on Lloyd or Stewart but I would advise against doing that.

Don't Blush Baby · 15/05/2017 at 20:13

Danger or Bont as the VC on Friday Night – Toss a coin me thinks ?

    Northernsoul74 · 15/05/2017 at 20:18

    Libba out of form but shut Danger down until he got injured last year.

    SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 20:19

    Have the same dilemma, I'm leaning towards Danger just because they are at Simmonds.

      Mark · 15/05/2017 at 20:34

      Bont for me

oldmate65 · 15/05/2017 at 20:16

Is it point chasing to trade in Josh Kelly? Or is he a legitimate POD?

    SF4 · 15/05/2017 at 20:18

    He is averaging 108.9 so It isn't a bad idea to bring him in.

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 20:25

    Not really a POD though as there will be plenty of point chasers. Look at Jelwood or Zerrett as a genuine POD

    whatyasmokin · 15/05/2017 at 20:25

    He will probably be a champion player but I feel it is point chasing a bit and would lock in fallen premos like JPK, Hannebery and Merrett

Mike · 15/05/2017 at 20:32

SPP TO MYERS AND

HOUSTON TO YEO

YES OR NO .
PS IS BUTLER STILL MAKING CASH

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 20:51

    YEO IS TOO EXPENSIVE MAYBE TRY JJK OR SOMEONE SIMILAR WITH THAT BYE BUT A BUT CHEAPER> BULTER IS DONE BUT HE IS HOLDABLE THIS WEEK IF YOU HAVE BIGGER FISH TO FRY

Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 20:39

This week I am trading Witts and SPP for Zerrett and Myers (Putting Nank in the ruck).

Before everyone criticises me for not holding them as good cover throughout the byes – I have done some heavy number crunching and I am definitely going to be able to field 18 players for all three bye rounds as long as 2 of my currently playing rookies don't get dropped (excluding Hannan, Marchbank and Fisher whom I shall be trading + 1 extra trade just in case it all goes to rubbish) – which is pretty unlikely.

Burning Witts means that I do not have to field Parsons or Hannan (both who will probably get dropped), and I get an uber premium midfielder in my side. Trading SPP over Hampton is a tough decision, however I justify it with the fact that I REALLY want Zach merrett and if I want to keep the continuous upgrade process I would be trading SPP before the byes anyways. I don't need him for cover, he has a bye this week, so he has to go. I would otherwise be getting in Taylor Adams for Hampton, however my rookies down the back are the best and I want to have Newman, Berry and co. on field compared to the rest of the rookies for as long as possible – as well as having those rd 11 premium defenders as my final upgrade targets after that rd 11. The only downgrade target this week is myers, so I need to be filling up at least one midfield spot – and that is going to be SPP. I also currently have 7 fwd eligible players, so by trading Witts I can put Nank in the ruck and swing Steele forward, which gives me my preferred forward line as well.

All in all I am very happy with my trades this week, and would love another 1000+ climb up the ranking like last week (3700 –> 2600 with a 2228). Confident with my reasoning, but I would love someone to point me out as wrong! Thoughts community?

    Terry · 15/05/2017 at 20:42

    I havn't finished reading it all yet

      Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 20:52

      Ahahahaha

    Bomba · 15/05/2017 at 21:02

    Myers isn't good enough. Look at his history before the saga.

      Tuco · 15/05/2017 at 21:06

      Beggars can't be choosers Bomba.

      Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 21:06

      sure – but he is the only rookie on the bubble and has decent JS

    TOPHAWK1 · 15/05/2017 at 21:11

    Wow. I am impressed!

    If I had spent as much effort at school like your post above, I would have been a road scholar!!

    I had a good read and I do like your reasoning. I want Zach Merrett as well. And want him big time! He is my number one priority this week. This kid could be anything. And he has a crucial extra year experience on Clayton Oliver. Its about the new kids on the block in 2017 IMO.

    I will try to keep SPP, as I have plenty of bench cover this week. My bench cover will be stretched during rounds 11-13. SPP JS is good, low BE now, and will help me through the key byes and hopefully make a some more cash.

    Cheers

      Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 21:14

      Thanks tophawk, Zerrett is going to be a top 5 mid this year IMO – durable, classy and the number one cog in that essendon midfield.

      FYI its rhode* scholar

      Colin · 15/05/2017 at 21:30

      Yeah I think you only proved your own point that you didn't pay much attention in school – it's Rhodes Scholar mate.

    Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 21:49

    I like yr thinking outside the box. My only query would be trading in two guys who are still going to generate plenty of cash. If you have other players likely to make you money then sure, otherwise are there other possiblities?

      Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 22:00

      The problem is that if I trade out those players with less cash in them (such as hannan and fisher) then I won't make any cash. I am going really hard on my trades early in order to stay in touch and pull out in front of everyone throughout the byes. Shoot first and ask questions later. I will get rid of my spuds throughout the byes in order to get rid of doughies and make my final upgrades. In doing this I will be short on trades. After rd 13 I am planning on 4-5 trades to carry me through. Risky – but it has the highest reward.

    BlueNath · 15/05/2017 at 22:08

    I really don't like you moving Nank into the rucks and giving up a backup ruck option for when (which it will) one of on-field rucks is out for a week or two. Just be careful you are not giving up too much for 1 premo now… you need 18 on-field premo's by seasons end!! It could be a long dark rhode if you don't plan carefully

      Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 22:15

      I like the pun! I already have 18 'keepers' IMO – after this weeks trade. 10 more trades should see me get to 22 – with 5 trades in the kicker for the back end of the season

    Moustachio · 16/05/2017 at 08:16

    Witts still has decent cash to make. SPP is ready. I assume you're wanting to cut Witts to fund love affair with Zerrett. I would listen to your head over heart, take a Parker or JPK instead and maybe you don't have to cull Witts yet?

    Disregard if Witts is R3, in that case I would put that cash on the field ASAP.

    Sam · 16/05/2017 at 08:44

    That's a well thought out plan Funnies! What's your team looking like going into the byes? I'm still working towards that balance across all 3 rounds

      Sam · 16/05/2017 at 08:45

      Or finnius…my auto-correct chose to call you funnies

      Finnius123 · 16/05/2017 at 13:18

      I have been doing some planning and I am pretty confident that I won't be getting a doughnut each week. Maximum 7 premiums out from each bye – it is a lot but can definitely cover that with the need to only field 18. I recommend just getting a pen and paper out and planning exactly what trades you are going to be making, and then writing out what your team is going to be looking like during a selected round. It is the best way to do it to make sure that everyone is going to be fine (or not fine in a few peoples cases)

Bad_News_Brown · 15/05/2017 at 20:54

This week I'm trading in Dangerfield. Look at all that cash I've made, the price Danger is and the POD I've had up until now. Full premo coming up. It's big time domination time.

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 21:06

    I like it – I wish I hadn't started with him in hindsight

    The BONT · 15/05/2017 at 22:38

    YOU make a good point time to cull

    Derek · 16/05/2017 at 08:47

    Genius

Stav · 15/05/2017 at 20:55

Hey guys. Thinking of going early on Marchbank to bring Myers in via DPP swing. Want to hold SPP to cover my byes. Breakevens are relatively close. Is this a bad idea?

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 21:54

    Marchbank isn't going to get a doughnut this week but SPP is – if you can cover it then I don't see why not.

      Stav · 16/05/2017 at 00:03

      Cheers Finnius.

Derek · 15/05/2017 at 21:04

last game

Tommo09 · 15/05/2017 at 21:05

Thinking Otten and Butler to Myers (via DPP) and Adams
This will leave me with 88k left and 18 trades

Probably a double downgrade next week

Thoughts?

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 21:13

    I am going double downgrade next week as well. Like the trade.

Tyruddanaut · 15/05/2017 at 21:21

Butler out and have a donut in my forward line or Houstan out and take the 10-20k cash hit

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 21:22

    Why not both?

      Tyruddanaut · 16/05/2017 at 07:09

      Got other issues to deal with so only have one trade

    Derek · 16/05/2017 at 08:46

    Take the cash drop. You could hold butler until his bye

Danny · 15/05/2017 at 22:03

Praying Rockliff plays this week…

    BlueBoy · 15/05/2017 at 23:23

    Same. Been googling "Tom Rockliff Shoulder Injury" all day. Won't get my hopes up.

      Danny · 16/05/2017 at 06:56

      Yep same here BlueBoy

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:57

    Maybe next week, hold onto him if you can.

      redgumwon · 16/05/2017 at 07:27

      Heard the same Pod. Hold

        Derek · 16/05/2017 at 08:44

        I heard 2 weeks. Then a bye.

    Krazee-Eyez Killa · 16/05/2017 at 09:43

    will hold if I can, regardless of if he doesn't play before the bye. can just see myself scrambling to get him back in after a couple 150's if I get rid of him now

      Derek · 16/05/2017 at 10:06

      he now becomes a major injury problem for the rest of the season

        DefyingMadness · 16/05/2017 at 12:52

        Hopefully they don't rush him out like they have in the past. I will probably trade him in once he is done with his injury

Top Gun · 15/05/2017 at 22:19

As Pepper Pig isn't playing this week can we use him for a captain loop?

    Simo · 15/05/2017 at 22:47

    Yes

Frank the Tank · 15/05/2017 at 22:39

Thoughts on Jake Lloyd?? Top 6 defender? Docherty, Laird and Adams are clearly the top 3. I see guys like Lloyd, Z Williams and Roberton taking the spots that Shaw and Simpson, who aren't what they used to be, have previously occupied.

    Panthers1738 · 16/05/2017 at 06:00

    I've got him and he has been real good. Lowest score of 84 and hasn't been under 100 for the last three weeks. I'd get him over Shaw or Simpson.

Jack · 15/05/2017 at 23:01

Hampton to Myers via DPP and
Butler to Yeo? Or should I go Heeney instead?

    Marcus Proudson · 16/05/2017 at 05:49

    I'm having the same problem. Heeney or yeo. I think yeo may be cheaper at some stage and heeney is good value. But yeo will be top 6 forward. Hmmmmmm

    Leeds17 · 16/05/2017 at 05:58

    maybe let your bye structure guide you.

Mike · 15/05/2017 at 23:30

IS anyone else thinking of trading hyena in? is he the real deal or keeper?

    Finnius123 · 15/05/2017 at 23:31

    Who the hell is hyena?

    Mike · 15/05/2017 at 23:55

    heeney* autocorrect sucks!

    pod · 16/05/2017 at 06:22

    Yes get him he's a star

      Derek · 16/05/2017 at 08:43

      Only concern is if he can run out the season

        Mike · 16/05/2017 at 09:04

        I was also looking at his previous scores and the easier teams he got them against… just wondering if he can replicate that against quality harder sides

        Krazee-Eyez Killa · 16/05/2017 at 09:40

        if you look at last season as a guide, he got better as the season went on. consistently posted 100+ scores at the end from memory. absolute gun. go swans

BigBuggars · 15/05/2017 at 23:56

Hi all, going Otten > Myers then either:
Butler > J.Steven via Taranto
or Butler > Heeney

Thoughts appreciated.

Panthers1738 · 16/05/2017 at 05:56

Thinking about getting rid of Sloane as he will get tagged more often now. Thoughts?

    Lazza · 16/05/2017 at 07:23

    I have no plans to bring him in if that helps …

    INPieman · 16/05/2017 at 07:41

    Crazy

    Moustachio · 16/05/2017 at 08:07

    Not many teams good at tagging. Surely you have bigger problems.

Jessie · 16/05/2017 at 07:24

Carey or Murphy?

    bc2017 · 16/05/2017 at 08:05

    idiot
    not funny

      idiot · 16/05/2017 at 09:57

      you are

    Carlisle · 16/05/2017 at 09:22

    The one that can generate you the most cash.

Rivo · 16/05/2017 at 07:28

Hampton & Houston to McNiece & Yeo/Macrae;
Or
Houston & SPP to Heeney & Myers?

    Rivo · 16/05/2017 at 07:29

    Pending selections of course…

Shane · 16/05/2017 at 08:12

SPP TO MYERS AND THEN BUTLER TO HEENEY

    Ja191 · 16/05/2017 at 09:46

    My trades ^ haha

Good · 16/05/2017 at 08:41

If Rockliff is out this week I am definitely trading. He has the round 11 bye as well which I am quite heavy on. Which premium is worth getting? Maybe josh Kennedy

    Good · 16/05/2017 at 08:51

    My Bad JPK has round 11 bye as well maybe dusty or shuey?

      Ja191 · 16/05/2017 at 09:46

      One word, Zerrett

Panthers1738 · 16/05/2017 at 09:12

Thinking about trading Pendles for Hannebery. Thoughts?

    Krazee-Eyez Killa · 16/05/2017 at 09:32

    Personally, I wouldn't. Can see it coming back to haunt you

    INPieman · 16/05/2017 at 09:33

    Madness. Get to full premium first & then go back clean up who you no longer require if you can

    TOPHAWK1 · 16/05/2017 at 09:38

    Two premo sideways trades this week? What a fantastic idea!………..*silence*…………. Trade out Sloane and Pendles at the same time! Yep bring in Hanners and perhaps a gun like Treloar? Good luck with that.

      INPieman · 16/05/2017 at 09:54

      Probably should also get rid of Danger & Fyfe if he's got them. There no good either

        Krazee-Eyez Killa · 16/05/2017 at 10:16

        Fyfe to Walters is the go. Walters proven premo mid

          INPieman · 16/05/2017 at 10:23

          Sure is Krazee. Back to back tonnes is good enough. Just ignore the previous 8 seasons of rubbish

    Winter · 16/05/2017 at 11:43

    No

    lok · 16/05/2017 at 13:19

    NO

    Heater · 16/05/2017 at 13:45

    Never trade Pendles

INPieman · 16/05/2017 at 09:57

Crap news about Jesse Hogan. Wish him all the best with his battle. What a bad run the young fella is having. In slightly better news Pendles is now a dad. The spud is out & it's a boy

    FEARTHEBEARD · 16/05/2017 at 10:54

    With you there Pieman. Such a shock. Hope Hogan is ok.

    Congrats to the Pendles.

iLoveNMFC · 16/05/2017 at 10:06

Thoughts?

SPP to Josh Kelly/Dusty?

OR

Butler to S. Martin via DPP?

    #crows · 17/05/2017 at 08:54

    Who is DPP

Vicki · 16/05/2017 at 10:15

Hi Community

I was looking at bringing in Lloyd this week for Otten. Will the return of Rampe which could be as early as this week impact on Lloyd's scoring? Is it possible to look up SuperCoach scores from earlier rounds to see how they were together?

Thank you.

Derek · 16/05/2017 at 10:21

How did Mutimer go on the weekend? what is his JS like.

The good thing about him is his first score was a 23, that drops out of his rolling average this week, so he still have a bit of cash to make. has a BE of -21 this week, but if he has another score in the 50's his BE next week will still be very similar as the 23 drops out.

only $151k.

    INPieman · 16/05/2017 at 10:26

    He's been serviceable last 2 weeks & been handy. Missed 2 set shots that kept him from a 70. Won't be collecting 30 touches anytime soon but he looks comfortable at the level. I got him in last week. So likely to be dropped this week

      Derek · 16/05/2017 at 10:37

      thanks. i'll have to do a double downgrade this week as i spent all my cash last week getting Shaw and Rance in. Myers and Mutimer look only options.

      Simpkin will have to go, and if Preuss isn't named that is it for him.

      Derek · 16/05/2017 at 10:40

      has a handy round 12 bye as well

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 16/05/2017 at 11:14

Question: Is Danger a must have this season? Has dropped price considerably so will probably never get him cheaper. Weighing up whether to get him now or just leave him alone

    Finnius123 · 16/05/2017 at 12:45

    He is an absolute bargain at this price – would definitely be getting him in.

    JoeD · 16/05/2017 at 14:13

    Got sore ribs but that won't last forever. Won't be long before he's pumping out those 130s again and the Cats have a nice little run at Simmonds coming up so would get on board either this week or next.

    Moustachio · 16/05/2017 at 16:40

    Wow. Get him.

Hawks · 16/05/2017 at 12:50

Can players that have the bye be used to loophole throughout the round, or are they locked out from the start of the round?

Help appreciated. Thanks in advance

    Heeater · 16/05/2017 at 13:40

    Yes.

Benjamin B · 16/05/2017 at 13:09

Pendlebury has a baby boy.
Looks like he wont be missing a week after all 🙂

    JoeD · 16/05/2017 at 14:15

    I can sniff a 140 plusser coming up against the fantasy point leaking Hawks who have plenty of injury issues now with Rioli, Stratton and Frawley all with lengthy stints on the sideline.

      Austin · 16/05/2017 at 14:18

      Yeah talk that Ty Vickery may play so you know the Hawks playing list must be decimated. 🙂

Stinga · 16/05/2017 at 13:13

Hey all,
So I had nank in my rucks and didn't really have a way to get him in the forward unless I traded in a duel ruck/fwd.
Thoughts on upgrading the likes of Butler to boyd and Houston to Heeney to then bring nank in the forward and eventually trade up Boyd to premo ruck after their bye round? Probably someone like S.Martin.
Will have a full premo fwd line after this. (Macrae, Dahl, Franklin, Nank, Greene, heeney).
Only need to upgrade 1 ruck spot, 1 defense spot and 3 mids then full premo. Got Boyd, Newman, Taranto, SPP and 1 other rookie to upgrade.
20 trades left, 105k in the bank.
Any thoughts on this strategy would be much appreciated!

    lok · 16/05/2017 at 13:19

    I'm guessing you don't know the trick to getting him into the fwd line. Press trade on a fwd player, then scroll down untill you see an s next to your players names down at the bottom.

    Northernsoul74 · 16/05/2017 at 13:28

    Why don't you just trade Butler straight to a premium ruck? Why bother with wasted trade on Boyd?

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 16/05/2017 at 15:48

McVeigh out. Looks as though Nic Newman will get another run regardless of if Rampe comes back

Paddy · 17/05/2017 at 08:01

SPP -> Myers like everybody else.

Potentially can upgrade marchbank this week. Selwoood or Merrett? Selwood better for yes but Merrett looks a fun this year.
Who would you get on?

Ps considered dusty but don't need another roller coaster.

PlottingPlodder · 17/05/2017 at 08:12

SPP -> Myers like everybody else.

Potentially can upgrade marchbank this week. Selwood or Merrett? Selwood better for byes but Merrett looks a gun this year.
Who would you get on?

Ps considered dusty but don't need another roller coaster.

JustaMug · 17/05/2017 at 22:27

What's up with the site Jock???
Found LekDog's cheat sheet through twitter and no podcast this week.. your site showing nothing???
I feel lost haha

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