Round 7 Supercoach Panic Room
It’s time to batten down the hatches, team. The Gods are angered. Not content with giving us underperforming premo’s, we now have injuries to popular players and some MRP shenanigans to deal with. But before we get to that…
I’ve heard from Patch and he’s absolutely living it up across the ditch in Hobbitland. He gave me some great advice on where to buy a hammock (the hammock complex on third). He was also kind enough to take some time out of his regime to send across a postcard to the bungalow. I swiped it off Jock’s desk and um… I don’t know what to make of it. I’ll let you be the judge.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Everything was not awesome for plenty of coaches last week (Hello! ♂️) Many struggled to scrape together 1950, while those that avoided the carnage got a good kick up the rankings. Without knowing precisely what the problem was, would I say it’s time for our readers to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?
Yes I would, community.
Time to PANIC!
THE NEWS
The SuperCoach higher power is kicking us while we’re down this week. Flat out refusing to allow us to downgrade our crappy rookies to generate meagre cash. At the start of the week the MRP threw us a curveball, handing out one and two week bans to Nankervis and Greene respectively. Coupled with losing Parfitt (8-10 weeks) and Zac Fisher (1 week) to hamstring injuries, it was already shaping up to be a difficult week (again).
Then came that fateful Wednesday night. They say you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing when disaster strikes. I’d just polished off a game of Fifa17, a solid 3-1 win against West Brom. Pogba scored a double. I opened up Twitter and the first 20-odd posts were details of Dayne Beams’ quad injury. Shit. He’ll miss two, but “Dayne Beams” + “quad injury” are not words you want to see side-by-side.
In team news, Coniglio line up for his first game of 2017 tonight. He’s worth watching. Eleven of his 13 tons in 2016 were 110+. Harrison Himmelberg will also play his first match of the year. You can scratch him off your downgrade list though as he played 4 games at the back end of 2016. As such his price sits at 275k.
North have rested Simpkin for their clash against Adelaide. The Crows will go in unchanged.
Time out has ended for Jordan De Goey at Collingwood. He can stay with the first team as long as he eats his vegetables and knows that he is a very bad boy. Carlton have lost Fisher (hamstring) and J.Silvagni (shoulder) to injury.
Still no Brett Eddy at Port. Travis Boak has recovered from injury and will return. West Coast have named an unchanged lineup, but will take all three emergencies across to Adelaide Oval as fitness clouds hang over Nathan Vardy and Liam Duggan. Watch for McInnes (155k DEF/FWD) to come in if Vardy doesn’t get up.
Gold Coast are giving us Brad Scheer among four inclusions. Dave Swallow also returns. Fiorini and Bowes are among the outs. Parsons is back for Geelong, but we’ve lost backline staple Tom Stewart.
Matty Boyd is back for the Dogs. Ivan Soldo will debut for the Tigers. Though I expect him to be straight back out again when Nank has served his week off.
In Sunday games; Sydney and Brisbane will see at least six changes between them. Barrett has been named on field and will play. Foote, Florent, and Josh Clayton are amongst the ins but on the extended bench. As is Nic Newman.
Jesse Hogan returns to face the Hawks after the passing of his father, while the Hawks idea of “catastrophic change” is to do absolutely nothing. They’ve added Cyril, Birchall, and Whitecross to the squad.
Essendon have made so many changes I’m struggling to get my head around it. The big ones are Jobe, McNiece, and McGrath being rested for the trip west. Myers has been named on field and will play, potential debutants Stewart and Mutch are on an extended bench
RUCKING HELL
Go away! We’ve got bigger problems now.
Far greater fantasy minds than mine have given you advice on how to deal with Nankervis. I’m holding.
Just quietly, is it time to talk about a return of Big Boy McEvoy to SuperCoach relevance? 125 on the weekend makes his three round average 114. A clear beneficiary of third man up being scrapped, he is averaging 11 more hitouts and three more possessions compared to 2016.
TRADING PLACES
For any that missed last week, the Eddie Murphy/Dan whatshisname has been replaced by “Everything’s coming up, Milhouse!” for those on the way up, while “Dig up, stupid!” is for those in a deep, dark hole of Paddy Dangerfield-sized crapness. We’ve got four rookies on the bubble this week. Parsons is my pick of the bunch.
Everything’s Coming Up, Milhouse!
-68 – Aaron Black
-59 – James Parsons
-49 – Lewis Melican
-47 – Harley Balic
-36 – EVW
-29 – Blake Hardwick
-24 – Tom Williamson
-23 – Jake Barrett
0 – SPP
4 – Mitch Hannan
Dig Up, Stupid!
206 – Tom Rockliff
177 – Patrick Dangerfield
164 – Marc Murphy
153 – Stef Martin
152 – Zac Merrett
148 – Brodie Grundy
147 – Dayne Zorko
146 – Luke Shuey
145 – JPK
144 – Ollie Wines
141 – Nat Fyfe
Barron von Crow keeps delivering the goods for all your rookie needs, Lek’s cheat sheet last week was absolutely bang on. Get this weeks edition here. Also upgrade season is fast approaching, while our rookies aren’t as fat and juicy as in previous years, the fallen premo is still a thing. Jock cast his eye over some of the options this week. There’s plenty!
Round 7 ROOKIE Scout Report by @ BarronVonCrow https://t.co/2KtJgnE8qv #Supercoach
— Jock Reynolds (@jock_reynolds) May 2, 2017
CAPTAIN’S CALL
In hindsight naming this segment Captain’s Call was destined for disaster. Tony Abbott’s captain’s call was ridiculed and unnecessary, just like this turned out to be.
If you followed my, uh… “wisdoms” and whacked the VC on Buddy, he was towelled up by Silvagni and could only manage 82. No problem, #FyfeIsLyf, right? No, oh God, no. Fyfe is just not life so far this year, throwing together dismal 62. To make things much, much worse our perma-cap put up 65 and Selwood was completely blanketed by Greenwood. Congrats if you had the stones to whack the armband on Gaz! Am I against shameless self promotion? See below.
Reminiscing over the simpler times in life when Gaz was perma-cap and Fyfe didn't take a steaming dump on your SuperCoach midfield
— Kevin Horton (@SC_Kev7) April 29, 2017
Some Pies are on my radar for VC this week. Collingwood play early Saturday arvo against the Blues and a certain dependable(bery) averages 137 in his last 8 against them. Rory Sloane is in scary form and has a handy record against North. Nick Riewoldt plays on the Friday night and has three scores above 120 in his 5 games against GWS.
Cats have the Suns on Saturday night. Look for them to bounce back, in particular Dangerfield and Selwood. After Sloane completely torched Richmond’s midfield, The Bont should be strongly considered by his owners. He has scored 140 and 142 in his two games against Richmond and averages 114 at Etihad this year.
I'm just hoping to scrape into the eight in most of my leagues. Lessons learnt – sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet and put some mid-pricers in your team.
P.S: Treloar could be my worse selection this year.
Treloar will come good mate, don't let it worry you
*worst
If you'd traded in Fiorini or Matera, that would've been your worst decision of the year, Treloar's a gun, just been a bit sloppy, he will come good.
This years mid pricers include roughead, Jom, swallow and beams. All traded out by most before round 7 . It is also very hit and miss
EVW or Melican?
EVW
Toss of a coin IMO. Interesting to see Melican on the field even with McVeigh & Allir back. Or do looks deceive?
Personally I am struggling to decide out of Melican, EVW, Parsons and Black for my one rookie this week. Factored into that is whether to get rid of Hampton, Butler, Petrevski-Seton or Houston.
EVW, Melican is from the rookie list and could go back down at any time
EVW, considering Newman has been dropped I would expect that Melican will find his way back into the 2s aswell
Im gonna take a Nank doughnut in ruck this week, tarde Beams to Pendles, and not sure about 2nd trade. Hosuton/Butler to Parsons. Or Stewart / Hampton to Melican?
Cheers
Maybe the non playing Rookie out?
Really wanted to do the same, Simo. Competitive leagues are forcing me to be creative. Will have to let Pendles slip through my fingers this week.
Prefer Parsons over Melican. Reckon you can squeeze a few more dollars out of Houston than Butler, though consider Houston's upcoming bye
stewart and hampton have more money to be made so I'd go with the first rookie trade option
I'm also accepting a donut for Nank.
Nice work Kev, thanks.
Panic has given way to sheer terror for me this week. Nothing I've done has worked this year so I'm looking around for shark moves which is always a worry.
I'm even considering bringing in the Little Master despite the fact he has the bye in a couple of weeks.
$585 this week and expected to go up 70K ish over the next couple of weeks. Jeez he looked good at the weekend.
It's wrong isn't it? Madness, surely?
I was actually thinking the same thing…
GAJ still carries too much risk for mine
I would think the whole community has a soft spot for Gaz. His durability is still too much of a question mark for mine
I hear ya Kev, but the weekends game was the first time this year that's he's looked completely free of any injury concern.
He was just doing what the old Gary used to do, getting to every contest, winning his own ball and using it better than anyone else. He's bloody tempting at 585K.
Agree Ranger. That was the first time in years I saw Gary confident in his body. And boy oh boy was it fun to watch as an owner. I watched the game with my young fella. At the end of the game the first thing he said was I'm getting Gary this week. The bye coming up does make it tough for people to trade into him. If it won't impact you to badly in round 9 I say get on now. Such a high scoring monolith is worth the risk
Im all for it mate, im trying to separate pendles from gaz but they are like for like in most ways. More likely to get ablett since got a trealoar already.
Love the write up.
I’ve traded Parfitt down to parsons.
Should i trade beams to Kade simpson or heath shaw through sendind adams into the mid for one week? Then get Pendles next week from marchbank or otten
OR
trade for pendles this week and then for one of the those backs next week?
I feel option 1 as the back will rise more in price this week then pendles?
Cheers, BB
I feel you should grab Pendles while you can. I had grand plans to grab him this week but it means munching a donut this week (bring back Eddy!). Long term Pendles price can explode while Simmo/Shaw will be under 500k again
Not sure how you can swap beams to Simpson or shaw. Both are defenders. Hold beams see what happens and get Simpson or shaw this week. Ottens needs to be traded out this week or next.
By moving Adams into the Mids for the week I can grab shaw/Simpson. Agreed ottens times is up
Beams to…..(have $609k to spend)
Bont
Dusty +$70k
Someone else?
The Bont is a lock to finish top 5 in the mids.
It sure looks that way, Dusty not so much on recent form
i'd go bont. I'm thinking of that trade myself but that would mean holding JOM.
But if I sell JOM I've got like $470k in the bank which means a mid pricer or taking a punt on a rookie like Myers who may not hold his spot. Hardest trade week this year for sure
Don't go early on Myers would be my advice there
Cripps? Looks like he's starting to come good and will leave you 100k in the bank
Na, not for me, don't reckon he'll be up there come seasons end
Bont
Welcome to the undypunchers bont
Thanks Kev,
Need the communities help.
Thinking of boosting my fwd line this week.
With Dahl, McCrae and Steele want to avoid Rd 11 so that leaves out Roo, Buddy, Heeney etc.
Interested in the Rd 12 fwds.
JJK – can he be a top 6 forward?
AS he is KPP he is reliant on goals.
Scores so far:
174, 82, 66, 110, 76, 141 – when he kicks goals he goes Big! The big ones – Two at domain one at the ES.
the other one that has peaked my interest is YEO.
I know everyone says he is a yo yo scorer but so all the rest which are KPP
Scores so far:
139, 102, 83, 141, 59, 150 – when he goes big he goes BIG. Very friendly role this year. The big ones. Two at domain one at ES
As you can see if anything a bit more consistent than JJK so far.,
Remaining games for Eagles – 9 domain, 4 ES. 3 Other
I have $510k to spend on a fwd.
Anyone I may have missed? I have Nankervis and not interested in the tool that is Toby Greene.
Like the eagles esp with the remaining games.
Just not sure which one.
Any help would be appreciated.
I have more trust in JJK to produce what he has been doing in the first 6 rounds over the entire year. I can't say the same for Yeo.
It's flip a coin territory George.
JJK's scores will go up and down 'cos he's a KPP and Yeo's will because he's Elliot Yeo.
Interesting in both cases their two lowest scores were at the MCG. Eagles don't play there again this year.
I prefer Yeo, but only just. Eagles have already played 3 of the bottom 4. JJK may start to struggle when teams actually have a full back that can go with him. At the start of the season he was 409k and you don't be that price by being a consistent high scorer.
JJK was one of the most expensive forwards at the start of the year at around 530k Kev. Maybe you are thinking of yeo starting at a much lower price? Or maybe i read it wrong lol
Yeo was 409 to start (I had to check because the way I read what Kev wrote, it sounded like he meant JJK was 409k).
Still up in the air with what to do this week. With 24 trades left and a duck egg looming in the ruck, I'm thinking of going Parfitt to Parsons and, a risky-ish trade, in Preuss to Goldstein. It'd save me from a duck egg, but might make it harder for me to bring in Pendles this week. Currently have 24 trades left and 90.1k in the bank. Here's the current team: http://i.imgur.com/bkwCRRH.png
Parfitt to Parsons is pretty much a lock for a trade, but I'll still be copping a duck egg or possibly two if Florent doesn't end up playing. What should I do?
Geez. I haven't seen much from Goldy to suggest he's a good pick. Rucks are a nightmare this season as far as working out the best R1-2 to finish the season. I'm far from convinced ATM that Goldy is one of them. And if Preuss comes back at some point which is very likely your going to be in the foetal position. Mummy is too expensive & doesn't play enough. Stef well if Archie comes in he's stuffed. Grundy well each game Cox has played he goes sub 100. So my advice Sam is take the donut
Same from me Sam, I'm taking the donut.
It hurts but it means I can stick to the trade plans that I had in place.
Yeah, taking the donut is probably for the best in the long run when I think about it. Thanks for the help dude! Also, thoughts on downgrading Otten or Hampton to someone like Melican for some more cash generation?
Otten & Hampton play for the best team & have the latest bye round. And they have shown they are capable of decent scoring. If you really want the Pelican find someone else. Keep in mind he has a round 11 bye. That round is a nightmare
Hmm yeah. I'm just toying with idea atm as I'll need to make some more cash so I can get Pendles in next week. Don't really want to go Newman to Melican but I suppose it's an option as well. Tom Stewart too.
" Stef well if Archie comes in he's stuffed" … can't see how you draw that conclusion.
Martin & Smith have only ever played in 1 game together – R21 last year.
No one is fielding 2 rucks at the moment … some are struggling with 1.
Get Sandi SirSam, nobody to take his spot and averaging more than Goldy,Stef and grundy over the last few. Ideally you'd trade out a fwd and move Nank and then after Pruess plays again and reaches 320k trade him for strandika to open the ruck/fwd swing.
While Sandi could be nice to have, he's risen by over 100K since the start of the season hence I think I've missed the boat on him and it's not worth forking out extra cash to bring him in when Nank is only out for a week. Brining him in would also just put a duck egg in my forward line instead and it'd mess with me getting Pendles next week. Fairly sure I'm going to go Parfitt for Parsons and Newman to Melican.
Parfitt to Parsons signed off. The fact they brought him straight back & he's onfield gives me some confidence. More so than Black. Don't be surprised if Newman loses his spot this week. He looked a bit lost last week. Although he had plenty of mates. If he is dropped again ill shoot him & leave Beams on the pine for a week. There's no rookie defenders on the horizon after this week & Newman to EVW is bye friendly assuming he's keeps his spot. Great job Kev
sounds a good move.
I'm doing similar, Parfitt to parsons.
I'll bring in EVW as well, but i need to decide out of Stewart, Preuss, Simpkin or pickett who gets the chop. At the moment it is Preuss, i feel i've been lied to.
Same. Didn't Brad Scott say in his press conference last week he'd in a way for Goldy & Preuss to play together. Perhaps he meant the VFL. Prick
None of the North picks have worked out very well so far have they?
I'd be holding Preuss if I had him. He'll make money and score decent points when Goldy gets injured next.
Do you have to trade Derek? Not sure on EVW.
You can probably get mcniece next week though as he is only rested this week if he is picked, not sold on his js but he is only 102k, hopefully hibberd (nm) comes back at some stage but i think north would need a few injuries or form drop for tat to happen.
Ben McNiece – Was rested this week but has played 2 for the bombers, priced at $102k. Not huge scores but his write up talks about his deadly left boot.
Haven't seen him play to be honest he is the only defender on the Horizon.
Ben McNeice at age 25 being rested after 2 games. I'm not so sure. Hope he does come back soon. Pruess was rested a few weeks ago. He must be still tired cause he ain't getting a gig
Jack Steven as a trade option. Thoughts?
NO
Who out of
Hannebery, Cripps and gray then? Leaning towards cripps
Cripps seems to be building. He could go on a rampage soon
I've ridden the Jack Steven train before and can hit $600k, if he does you should sell. Fair price $565k for mine. So yeah, pick him up next week if you look like running short on cash gen, at just over $500k will be a risky but not entirely stoopid move if short on cash. I won't be buying.
Parfitt to Parsons
Beams to S Martin via Nank.
Been thinking the same all week but think I'm going to take nanks donut instead, don't like Martin yet will look at him after his bye
I'm thinking the same thing but I might go Grundy instead, price is better and It's all about the cash this year but I think Martin is a got pick and I will look at upgrading Sandilands to he after the byes.
Already have Grundy.
Am getting on GAJ has had 138, 118,118, 162 in DT over the last month 36, 34, 33, 45 disposals the last month
So have two options
1. Houston > Parsons then JOM > GAJ this gives me a donut up fwd and Beams still to upgrade next week. Want to get rid of JOM as there were reports his knee still not good floating around yesterday and a BE of 104. But this means I get a donut up fwd.
2. Greene > Yeo and Beams > GAJ is option to and no donut but I dont get on Parsons the rookie for my fwd line. Not a big fan of this but sideways is the only way I can avoid the donut from Eddy. Im also stuck with Jom still.
I'm leaning towards option 1….after that month of footy welcome back little master.
I get Nank back next week, rnd 8 and Greene week after….this is one of those tough decisions to take the donut for the long term benefit of getting at least one cash cow in my side this week so I stay relevant weeks to come, also Houston is a chance to clear out a rnd 9 byes which is needed if im gonna bring GAJ in
SPP has another couple of weeks, might go Swallow down to Myers if the rest no good to him in a few and upgrade Witts before his bye looks like the plan to cover GAJ rnd 9….depending upon scoring of course.
SPP to Myers on the bubble will be a popular trade if it comes off
Option 1 for mine.
Fair call with GAJ
If he scores 140 each round for the next 2 weeks you will be paying almost $100k extra for him.
Honestly it's now or never with him
Really want to get Balic in as believe he is great scorer and even at inflated price he will provide at least another 120k. Which 2 options are best thanks community.
Option 1
Parfit to Balic
Option 2
Hampton to EVW
Option 3
Hampton to Parsons (Via swing Hibberd to defence) this means that Otten Marchbank and Newman would field the ground, leaving Hibberd and Stewart on the bench.
Is Hampton to parsons to risky considering the job security of Hibberd (Nth) Newman and Stewart and therefore could likely find myself getting a donut? Thoughts would be much appreciated.
Thanks Community
I am also running with hibberd (nm) and stewart in def, not too worried unlikely to be late out hopefully. Stewart is also listed as emergency so still outside chance of playing if geelong have a withdrawal. A lot of teams will be affected anyway if a newman/otten/hampton/marchbank dont play so won't stress about it. More peoples ruck (if nank in ruck) forwards with nank and greene and no rookie cover or mids with beams out also if no rookie cover that are more worrying for most i think this week.
Should make for an interesting round, i'm hoping to move up rankings as i have plenty of rookie coverage in forwards and mids and hopefully i can nail vc loop not like last week!!
Trading in Bont and Pendles over the next 2 weeks. Both have a similar be, who do I get this week? Who will score higher. Have Pendles ATM
Would get Pendlebury I would say. But both have fairy high BE. So can hold off for next week.
Think they may both go 130+ as both have very good records against their opposition. I would get pendles this week as he is cheaper. Toss of a coin as to who will score more though!!
Yeah I think either way it's fairly safe, I'm gonna back dependlebury
Tough question for me this week who from the backline rookies are ready to cull a little early for Melican or EVW?
I have Newman, Hampton, Otten & Marchbank. Decision will be made easy if Newman doesnt get named. However assuming he does I was thinking Otten out of those 4 as it feels like he may be dropping off a little.
Assuming Newman is named what order would people be trading out the above named defenders
Otten by far, his BE is highest 55 and he isn't playing the position that he was getting 100 in. He has to go this week or next at the latest. Marchbank is consistent and price won't move much either way.
I'm just a little gun shy of going early because I thought the same of WHE and traded him out last week for the big Bud.
Whether to double downgrade or paint the fence is going to haunt me for the next 24 hours.
Fyfe, Beams, Dahl, Nank, Bowes, Stewart, Fisher, McGrath, Eddy not playing
My trades have changed massively
Done a huge amount of dpp swinging and find myself with trading out Bowes and Beams for….
Franklin lock 444k for a guy who will avg low 90's for rest of season
Hawkins as a POD at 442k – also need to mention that Wingard is a worthy option but I feel he can spud it like a key position forward as well.
Before I get the comments of these trades are crazy ect plz remember we all need to buy low this season ty guys
Is Fyfe out?
Typo my bad
Dahl named yeah?
My cash gen is going okay, so will be focusing on McCrae, and perhaps even Wallis when he come back. Franklin yes, just hope the swans mids turn it around so they can kick it to him. Hawkins yeah nah doesn't get enough around the ground for me. I think either of Ryder or Higgins or Steele (already played) are better options at that price point.
uhhh cant decide who to trade out out of otten marchbank and hampton – need to trade 1 but feel they all need at least 1 more week 🙁
I had the same options and I ditched Otten this week.
His good scores came when Jenkins wasn't playing.
Otten will either just get his BE or just miss it. He has changed position and only got 61 last week and with BE of 55 he should only just get it. He has to go next week.
exact same boat!! it's hampton for me though.
NANK THE TANK that suspension has killed me!!!! Want to bring Hibberd in but can't cos need to get rid of Parfitt and Nank plays forward so need 2 fads for cover…..Bugger. Can trade Beams out, but won't solve 2 fwd issues…DOUBLE BUGGER!
You might regret trading Nank out more than the doughnut you'll get if you don't, maybe just take your medicine this week mate.
Dare i keep beams?m
His output was not the Beams of old. He has done his job was never a keeper. Hit the T button.
What for? Beams is injured and will take time to get match fit.
He is sitting on my bench this week. Welcome double down.
Ok think I got this sorted
Gone Beams > Franklin pocketing 32k
Bowes > Parfitt pocketing 126k
Bank is 326k now. Full 22 will play only if Newman gets the nod on Sunday
Did you mean Bowes out for Parsons? Trading Parfitt in would be a bit bizarre lol
Yup man lol this round got my brain fried
You might want to rethink that second trade David!
Lloyd is a top 6 defender??
Is he worth bringing in, Swans are only going to get better
I've had him from gotime and yes he's been very reliable, there are other good options too though, Simpson, Shaw etc
LLoyd is maybe a top 8 defender, 6 will be a bonus.
He will be one of the top defenders maybe top 10 since he doesn't blast out 120+ scores often enough
I was considering bringing in Grundy this week but looking at his record when cox is playing, it is horrible
Averaging 78 in 3 games when Cox is playing
And 117 when playing lone wolf.
Can someone kneecap Cox and make this decision easier.
I guess i have Martin or Mummy to select although reluctant to pick Mummy with his injury past
As a Grundy owner I'm heading down to the Lexus centre a bit later on to do exactly that, Holty!
Im going Martin… mummy to risky
Mummy is the form ruck. Tackles a lot, some misplaced hence the weekends off at times. But he is a monster and can
go very big
I'm hearing mummy a late out. So your reluctance may be well founded
Beams out for jpk or hanneberry?
leaning towards jpk as hanners hasnt seemed right this season yet
Hanners was definitely carrying something early on, but he's building and if he really gets going his ceiling is way higher (IMO).
Yeah JPK seems to be a solid option and a handy POD
Trades this week,
Beams > GAJ and Otten > EVW = Bank $300
Next week – Murphy > Pendles and Kelly > Sloane
Thoughts?
Don't fall into the gaz trap. If you have so much cash in bank then don't bother downgrading Otten, I would go someone like Hampton instead who has a lower output. Keep kelly for a little while – he is providing premium output at the moment.
not sure its a trap, he has had 36, 34, 33 and 45 disposals this month….
So you're bringing in three elite midfielders GAJ, Pendles, and Sloane. I can't argue at all.
Yep looks great to me. Three premiums, giggety.
Love your work Kev. I feel your pain about Eddy as I too have him on the bench and no cover for Nank so will be coping at least one donut. My options are:
1) Parfitt to Parsons and Fiorini (WTF was I thinking!!) to Pendles/Martin
2) Parfitt to Parsons and Beams to Pendles/Martin
Money is not an option with either Pendles or Martin. Pendles has the potential to score better, however, Martin suits my bye structures better.
Any comments/advice much appreciated.
Thanks, SC.
I like option 1. Fiorini won't do anything special for you. What indeed were you thinking?! Go with Pendles. This week is shaping up to be utter carnage again, get him in a slap the VC on him. If he spuds it against Carlton then surely the apocalypse won't be far away
If I think I can win H2H this week regardless.
Do I bring in Pendles and Parsons.
Or do I bring in Parsons & Black/Balic???
If you go through Pendles scoring history you will notice 2 things. It's absolutely ridiculous & consecutive sub 100 scores is almost non existent. Collecting him at 577k is a gift. I wouldn't think twice about it if I didn't already have him. And chuck the VC on him. He loves playing Carlton
Cheers once again Pieman. My concern is who the rookies are coming forward.
Need to see cash keep being generated. Balic while 50k dearer may be a good one with another 100-150k+ to come?
Black could also pump out 150k so I'm stuck on if I take that and still should win H2H and go for Pendles next week?
I agree with INPieman, I never go a rookie after his bubble has burst and also don't rate Black that highly, don't think you can go wrong this week with Parsons and Pendles
Parsons I think is the one to grab this week. Black I'm less sure of his JS. Last week he got a bit of it but butchered the ball. Balic you've missed the first price rise, is it worth it? I'd go the first option personally. Buying players at the best price is what this game is all about.
Completely agree with Rick. Parsons onfield & Black on the bench tells me a story
How about some of you grow a pair and make your own mind up on who to trade.
The same questions do tend to repeat themselves hundreds of times, I kinda get sick of seeing the same thing posted over and over and over again too.
I think it's due to the format of this forum where it doesn't seem to auto-refresh, and when you do refresh, it always leaves you back on bloody page 1.
Hit the last activity button at the top of the thread of posts, which will take you to the newest post in time order
Ahh got it now mate, thanks for that!..never even noticed it lol
Kevs Klangers good stuff.
Does that mean Patch thinks you have a butt that won't quit Kev?
Bloody shambles again this week.
Do you think it may be possible to have one week where there isn't catastrophic change.
Bloody Clarko was obviously referring to Super coach.
Rioli in? Not quite catastrophic. Maybe more to come.
The postcard specifically mentions Jock, Trigger. We've all seen the great man in the mag and I wouldn't be surprised if Patch had it in his carry on luggage in case the in flight entertainment wasn't up to scratch
Whys everyone saying jump on Pendles? will he get tagged this week against the blues.
I have 740K do I jump on pendles or Merrett, Slone, rocky?
Tags don't work on Pendles and I doubt they will anyway, Sloane would be tempting
Hey Donn,
Either of Sloane and Pendles will be a good outcome … I'd imagine you will want both of them eventually … Sloane MAY drop in price … Pendles will definitely go up at some stage. I'd look at your cash flow for the next 3 weeks to be sure you can bring premos in on a steady basis from thereon. You may want to bank on Sloane after his BYE – its a long wait (R13) but you should have locked away a couple more premos by then.
BTW – be sure of what you want. Sadly, I will only be able to fit in Sloane now by trading sideways … late in the season.
Get Pendles mate. He won't be this cheap again and the way you do well at this game is to buy good players at their lowest price.
Sloanes price will come down at some point.
He may get tagged but they may decide to tag treloar instead. Clearly they haven't tagged pendles the past 4 times they have played or if they have it clearly didn't work. I brought him in as he is the best cheapest super premo available this week and suits my buy structures the best.
Slone is far too expensive and won't keep up his average for long, rocky on the way down so best off buying in 1-2 weeks, Merrett won't be in top 8-10 forwards. Pendles will be and is the best of that bunch at his current price. I think he will tear Carlton a new one also so he is my vc for this week.
Why jump on Pendles you say, well only because he is the most durable and consistent player that SC may have ever seen
is otten and beams to pendles and evw a good trade? planning on houston and spp to danger and a rookie next week. also have players like parfitt, eddie, pickett and hibberd on the bench.
PS. not copping a 0 this week
Otten has a bit more mooing to do, any other options? If I were you I'd look at Parfitt to Parsons and Beams to Pendles
Will Murphy be sub 500 this week, not sure wether to trade this week or not?
Trade this week unless you have an onfield doughnut – then look after than. Murphy can last a week, but if you have no other pressing issues then pull the trigger.
I have Beams…
I think he'll not get anywhere close, though he's scoring at least. Got 31 disposals last week, so is still getting the ball.
boy oh boy
if you HAD to trade 1 now and hold on to the other for 2-3 weeks who would you trade out of BEAMS and ROUGHEAD??
Beams – he's gone
Trade roughy. Beams price won't shift and if you have decent cover in the midfield no stress
Beams. Injury history etc. Roughead is neither making money nor losing it. Scoring better or as well as the rookie options.
haha this is what i mean boyyyyyys. i think i might get rid of beams – does mean i need to bring balic in from my forward line as cover and i lose my DP bonus as im gonna trade pickett for parsons. but you gots to do what you gots to do!
im holding beams but have decent bench cover to do so. i still believe in a season where $$ is scarce he may finish an M8 if he comes back fit after byes. roughy will be far from a keeper
My two cents on Pendles, he still has a break even of 124, so there's no guarantee he'll even go up in price. Certainly not saying don't buy him, just don't throw your structures out the window to do so.
I'm picking him up next week
Same
I was going to get him next week originally but since beams is out I don't want 2 rookies on my mids as loosing far too many points and I doubt very much beams will be back in 2 weeks I reckon they will play it conservative. Could easily turn into 3+ weeks. However I was wrong with Riewoldt. Not worth keeping beams in my opinion will hurt you if going for overall which I am.
It's time to show BIG TIME DOMINATION if you ask me. In Comes the BONTTTTTTTTTT o yeaaaaaa
Is it too late for Balic and/or Berry? Missed rd 3 for both but they both look to have good JS and Parfitt at least has to go this week?
They both look better than EVW/Parsons in terms of durability. Thoughts community?
BLic I think will average more than berry so I would pick him but depends also how useful their dpp is for you.
Going for league wins & batting already. Trade dilemma now with McNiece not selected and other changes. Options below, seeking feedback please. $44k & 23 trades. Keeping Nank on Fwd bench with no bench cover for Fwds this week. Help!!!!
1. Parfitt & Hampton to Parsons & Hibberd, leaves $66k
2. Parfitt & Hampton to Parsons & Tuohy, leaves $5k;
3. Otten & Parfitt to Macrae & McNiece, leaves $6k cash and McNiece to bench;
4. Parfitt & Butler to Heeney & Parsons, leaves $17k cash;
5. Parfitt & Marchbank to Yeo & McNiece, leaves $6k;
6. Parfitt & Otten to JJK & EVW, leaves $25k;
7. Parfitt to Parsons only, leaves $170k;
8. Cop the donut.
P9. Parfitt and Hampton to What you talkin about Willis and Parsons – last chance for you grab some cash champ
Parfitt and Hampton to EVW and Parsons. You don't have enough cash to do an upgrade yet. Better to double downgrade this week (when there are actually good rookies) and have a solid wallet for the weeks to come.
Thanks Finnius. Tough call re EVW. Have Stewart, Newman and Otten also. Still think Hampton should be first to go?
McNiece isn't playing
Sitting on 22 trades
I'm unsure if I should use 2 or 1 This week (I've got BEAMS and nank)
Option 1:
Beams> Pendles
Pickett> Parsons (must do 2nd trade to afford pendles)
Option 2:
Beams>Dusty (bye friendly)
Option 3:
Beams>Pendles
Hampton>EVW
Option 1
Agree option 1
Really tossing up my decisions here. At the moment i am going:
Butler > Parsons
Beam > Pendles
Butler to parsons is pretty much a lock, given parfitt is in my mids. I have considered trading parfitt to pendlebury however i may hold onto parfitt and see what myers will do this week which will allow a good downgrade option in the next few weeks.
Thoughts?
It genuinely doesn't matter who you trade this week as both will score zero. I would be going Beams this week as keeping Parfitt gives you DPP fluidity so when you get rid of him next week then you have options in both your forward line and midfield. Like butler to Parsons.
Thanks mate. Also leaves me with $380k in the kittyz
Going into this week with potentially zero bench cover, except maybe Newman…fingers bloody crossed!
I think a few will be in the same boat mate, fingers crossed indeed could be a rough week again! Let's hope our premise and vc/c are not as crap as last week though!
Cheers Kim, from what I've read, I'm one of the lucky ones this week not copping a doughnut onfield!
I'm playing it as safe as I can with VC and C, going Pendles and Bont, good luck to you mate.
Trading Beams out – is Oliver a viable option??
Other mids that I have – Danger, Pendels, Fyfe, Titch, JPK
Thoughts appreciated
I think he is. Good option for the price. According to the mids you've stated, someone with the round 11 bye looks preferable in your mid setup. May i suggest Cripps as an option to you? $513k for a mid about to explode for his team, and round 11 bye too. If I didnt have to take Beams out this week to avoid a donut, I would have happily brought in Cripps
I think he is, averaging 114 for six rounds is hard to ignore, I put him in two weeks ago for O'Meara.
He's still a pretty good price too.
Had Oliver from the start. Pleasantly surprised. I've also watched a fair bit of Melbourne's games and he doesn't seem to need
much to post very good numbers i.e. 105+. So I think he's the real deal. Tackling is a bonus as well. I think he's a keeper even
if he only rounds out M8/9
He looks the real deal but I don't think he'll be a top 10 mid come year's end
Interestingly Newman is showing up green on Supercoach app as being selected.
Cool, might field him over Hampton then if that's the case.
Can loophole Hampton with him if not selected anyways – so there is no detraction of starting him.
Cheers mate.
Emergency on the extended bench champ
He's green on SC, you beauty!!
He is on the extended bench at the moment so it is a mistake should be in orange. Wait for teams tonight to see if he made the cut. I don't have him so won't be disappointed at all if he is an emergency this week.
He is OUT emergency
i only just realised gc and port adelaide have byes earlier than the bye round due to the china clash..
hoping GAZ has a stinker, drops in price to be picked up round 10, perfectly in time to be the guardian angel that he is in the bye rounds
Good luck, he's carrying that 210 for the next fortnight. Price is only going one way.
Williams, Lloyd or Simpson the better bet? Been back and forth on this all week.
Lloyd for me. DPP is so valuable and they will all average very similarly. Youngest and least likely to get injured is another benefit.
HAMPTON, MARCHBANK, OTTEN OR STEWART THE PLAYER TO CHOP FOR EVW??
doubling down despite beams being out.. too many cash cows around
Parfitt > parsons was my 1st
I would think Marchbank, Hampton & Otten all have better JS than Stewart, although I'm not convinced on EVW – could lose his spot to Hibberd?
Hope so. I'd happily bring Hibberd back into my side if he returned and scored a 60+. Might seem unlikely but he can find the pill at VFL level no worries.
do you prefer melican over EVW
Not really convinced by either to be honest…both Sydney and North seem to have options in defence to bring in (Almir, McVeigh, Talia, Hibberd, Mullett}…although I think EVW will possibly play more games for the year…I would rather wait and bring in Myers as a mid in a week or two
Hampton
Well obviously stewart since he isnt even playing
its actually not that obvious k.sinny as stewart is only being managed so he will be back next week and his BE is -5 still. so plenty of cash left in him where other BEs are about there AVGs… so hampton IMO.
oh ok i thought he got dropped thanks
You still munching pies down Relton?
a four n twenty and VB at the halftime of the magoos & still find plenty of the pill! could keep up with that butler at the tiges still!
whose the pick of the defenders Pieman? EVW Melican McNiece or berry even?
riewoldt VC
stef martin C (vs sydney who has no ruck really)
thoughts?
risky but could be a serious ploy. Nice VC option.
Naismith isn't really no ruck, he is at least a Ruckman and not someone filling in for one.
Swans valued naismith over nank so he must be considered a half decent ruckman. But in saying that they also think tippett is a ruckman…
A very unique VC and C. Supposing that is Nick Riewoldt, you could find a better VC instead of him
What would you do?
Trade to get 2 premos now – Pendles & a RUC thus avoiding a donut whilst keeping Nank on the bench;
This will give me 14 premos plus Nank&Sandi.
OR, bring in Pendles for Beams and down trade for one of Parsons/Black/EVW.
I have multiple options as I can move players via DPP to accommodate DEF/MID/RUC/FWD.
I like option one. Nank on bench and avoiding a doughnut is the best solution.
Who has a calculator?
Everyone is asking who to trade out of Otten, Hampton, Marchbank.
What would the break evens be for each of them if they all score 90 this week?
Help, maths geniuses!
Otten 75, Hampton about 60 and Marchbank about 55
can i ask what the BE calculation method is to figure it out.. i have always tried but no idea how it works
This is a very rough formula but it's pretty close….ie: Players Price divided by 5140 multiplied by 3 then minus the sum of the two previous rounds…it needs to worked out after the players price change.
SUPERCOACH BREAKEVEN FORMULA
Player’s Price X 3 minus (sum of previous 2 rounds)
5140
Easy way of doing it is 3round average. Every 20 points equals $100000. So if average is 90 break even is $450000. Not exact but very close and can do in your head easily
To be perfectly honest I look at the projected score and their projected BE. If i think they are going to score slightly more/less then I guess based on their last few weeks. Supercoach gold is pretty amazing – if you seriously care about supercoach it is a great tool and I recommend everyone get it.
Boy oh boy really is time to cull the Crow boys very shortly. Come on defence rookies!!!
Even hoping Mitch Hibberd comes back for North, now that is desperation!
If Otten is a late omission due to the weather tomorrow and Newman doesn't get a game I will have 2 backline donuts.
That would be tough on otten. He's been awesome
Bont, Pendlebury or dustbin martin
Pendles or Bont
DePendlebury
I'm just waiting for the Bont to have a poor game……. might not happen!
Is anyone holding Beams for now?
My plan at this stage is a double downgrade to make some cash and get in rookies that will create further cash gen;
Parffitt –> Parsons
Marchbank –> Melican
Or should I look at trade 1 and use the cash to upgrade beams to a pendles or alike
Not much in the way of def & Fwd rookies on the horizon. If you can cover beams for this week it's not a bad idea
In your opinion would you rather
Cop a donut this week but turn beams into pendles.
Or
Turn Eddy into parsons, field a full team and upgrade beams to pendles next week.
(Can't do both this week due to other priorities)
I'm in the same boat. It's doing my head in.
Turning Eddy into Parsons just seems like such a waste of a trade. That said, I don't think Eddy will be getting a game any time soon so may have to bite the bullet.
Really is a waste of a trade but it seems Eddy won't be breaking into the side anytime soon. Think I'll get parsons for him and just accept it as a rookie correction, will need the cover heading into byes.
Tough call. But not many forward rooks coming up so go Parsons in this case & grab Pendles next week
Tough call. I have to cull either Preuss or Simpkin to make sure I have no donuts in forward line.
I'm sure Simpkin will be back next week but Preuss not sure
Like option 2 – a doughnut is a doughnut, and if you can do beams into pendles next week then it's water off a ducks back
im holding Dusty. I've doubled down this week too many cash cows on the bubble. we have to generate that cash while its there!
Ablett will have to wait….because of the upcoming bye. Tossing up between getting Pendles today or next week for Dayne Beams. I could wait a week and snap up either Heath Shaw, or Kade Simpson today. What is of higher priority? The break evens suggest that one of the premo defenders should be dealt with first. Pendles excellent record against Carlton makes it really tough call. Any thoughts? Cheers
I've gone Pendles this week and made him my VC, and will go Premo defender next week, moving on Marchbank or Hampton.
Are you still planning Gaz post bye? I would go Gaz this week over Pendles if you got cover for Rnd 9 (or Myers bubble??)
Will we know if newman is playing once the teams come out tonight?
Newman is Emergency
Really want to get Balic in as believe he is great scorer and even at inflated price he will provide at least another 120k. Which 2 options are best thanks community.
Sorry didn't mean to post that- that was part of my last post
He always plays well against the Cats, good move.
Does the round 9 bye allow us to do 3 trades this year?
No. Only 2.
It's the same as every other round you still field your best 22 also not 18 like rounds 11-13
Community, I'm strongly considering Berry instead of EVW. Should he even come into contention or is Berry not worth looking at?
Berry could work for you. His first three games were putrid and he actually fell in price after he went on the bubble. He somehow kept his place and played very well last week for his 62. So he has only gone up about $8K. His BE is only 11 and will rise much more sharply from here. Its almost like he is on the bubble now after having played 4 games.Looks like this kid is a late bloomer. I have him and his MID/DEF eligibility is also very appealing. As he has played 2 more games under his belt his JS looks solid too. Very valid option for mine. Cheers