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Round 4 Supercoach Panic Room

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Community, I have a confession. I hate Thursday Night Footy.

While in a perfect world, being able to sit on the couch and watch footy every night of the week would be incredible, it consistently messes with our Supercoach sides and plays absolute bloody havoc with the Panic Room.

I’ve heard of numerous people being caught unawares by the lockout; making trades they thought could be reversed, losing captaincy loopholes, not being able to keep up with team sheets. It’s just a mess.

Speaking of messes: our fantasy sides. Well, when I say ‘ours’, I mean mine, which didn’t crack 2000 this week. So I’m heading away for the weekend and having a good, hard look at myself.

Before I do that, though, I need to have a good, hard look at the teams.



Every conceivable play on Jaeger O’Maera’s name is in play this week after it’s emerged he has… you guessed it – knee problems, and will miss Monday’s clash with the Cats. What do we do? Well if possible, go back in time and don’t select him like I told you. If you can’t do that, trade. Up or down, I don’t care, but get rid of him – feel going to David Swallow will be a popular and solid move.

Mind you – he should be back next week if you’re happy with him and want to hold. However, I’ve been concerned about that knee for a long while, and this will dog him for the rest of his career, let alone his 2017. You’ve been warned.

To twist the midfield knife, Brisbane have dropped Jake Barrett after a brilliant, 10-tackle game last week. Because of course they have. Midfield donut, anyone?

Port forward Brett Eddy has also been dropped for the returning Jasper Pittard. Keep an eye out though – last time he was omitted, he was a late in and ruined lots of people’s captaincy loopholes. Sam Durdin has also been dropped.

Ben Long, Troy Menzel, Jy Simpkin, Cedric Cox and Zac Fisher have all been named this week, giving us even more rookie options, with Long, Cox and Fisher debuting. Pity we aren’t getting more trades to go with them…

Jake Spencer comes in for the injured Max Gawn, and at 280k is worth a watch if he gets a run on.

Paddy Ryder misses with suspension, and the Giants’ loss of Stevie J and Ryan Griffin ensure the survival of Tim Taranto for another week.

Somehow, Jarrod Pickett has kept his spot, too.

Collingwood heartthrob Jamie Elliot comes into the Pies’ side for the weekend alongside Jarryd Blair and Lynden Dunn, who will obviously be a must-have in 2 weeks*

*he will not.

Now as I’m away, I don’t have the technology or internet access to edit for extended benches this week, so head on over to tonight for the news, or check Pat Keane on twitter!


The stock exchange is a very busy place this time of year. Remember, the breakeven is the score someone needs to hit in order to increase in value. Eddie Murphy is on the way up, Dan Aykroyd is on the way down.

For even more rookie news, hit up Barron von Crow’s wonderful scouting report.


-106 – Nic Newman

-87 – Andy Otten

-86 – Braydon Pruess

-62 – Robbie Fox

-61 – Will Hayward

-43 – Jarrod Witts

-42 – David Swallow

-41 – Tim Broomhead

-41 – Dan Houston

-38 – Brandon Parfitt

-36 – Ryan Burton

4 – Teia Miles

5 – Tom Stewart

8 – Jarrod Pickett

9 – Tim Taranto

15 – Olvier Florent


We’ve got a few defenders and a few Kennedys to pick off in the next few weeks if you can hold off. Higgo’s podcast selection of Marchbank to one of these blokes is extremely viable in a round or two.

209 – Max Gawn

186 – Todd Goldstein

181 – Kade Simpson

174 – Heath Shaw

165 – Josh J Kennedy

160 – Gary Ablett

154 – Josh P Kennedy

146 – Rory Laird

144 – Tom J. Lynch

144 – Dan Hannebery


I didn’t quite envisage this segment being as relevant as it has turned out to be.

I thought I might have a nice little graph tracking how rucks have been going; and finding who the best ruck selections will be for those who went in looking to upgrade as the year went on. Just an easy little segment. Yeah well so much for that.

Panic? Don’t mind if I do!

Firstly, those who went locked and loaded in the rucks this year have seemingly made a HUGE mistake. Despite the past three years teaching us going low value picks in the rucks is fraught with danger, this year the top dogs have fallen.

Max Gawn has stuffed his hamstring and is out for 3 months, and unlike Nick Riewoldt, he’s not coming back after a week of frolicking around.

No ifs or buts, he’s got to go.

Todd Goldstein has suffered a massive fall from relevance with the arrival of Braydon Pruess and – yet again – a niggling injury.

I’m of the personal opinion Goldstein has no chance of being a top 5 ruck this year and as such should be flicked before you lose mad cash on him. Plenty will disagree, and there’s no doubt Goldstein can be damaging as anything, but unless Pruess makes way, he will struggle.

So who do we go to? If you don’t have The Nank, stop reading this and go trade Nankervis into your side right this instant. If you’re sane and normal and started with Nankervis, the problem becomes trickier.

As discussed last week in the Panic Room and on the podcast this week, if you’re trading a premium out, replace them with a premium.

But – that can absolutely be a premium on another line. If you want Taylor Adams and can work some crazy DPP magic to get him in for Gawn or Goldstein, go for it. As for going down to bucketloads of cash, I prefer going one up, one down.

For reasons stated in the podcast, I’m not a fan of going to Jarrod Witts at this stage. He won’t be a top 3 ruck, and we’ve missed the large chunk of his price rise, so I’m passing. If you’re going purely for cash, go to Brayden Pruess.

If you’re going for a premo in the ruck, I’d look at Stefan Martin, who looks phenomenal, and is possibly the best all-round ruckman in the game at the moment – in ruckwork, work around the ground, as a forward, as a midfielder. He’d be my pick. Brodie Grundy is a close second. Would steer clear of Tom Hickey despite his form reversal – he needs a few more weeks of consistency before I’d look for him.


We’ve only got 2 games before our captaincy loophole in Strndica is locked out, so if you haven’t had a gander at Dan Hannebery or JPK last night, try hitting up The Bont tonight.

Patrick Dangerfield should again be your C but for those being dicey, or holding Jaeger – giving you another vc loop player –

Aaron Sandilands will have free reign against Jake Spencer on Saturday, and Nathaniel Fyfe could be the beneficiary with a big score. Nick Riewoldt could set the Saints alight on Sunday, and Dustin Martin speaks for himself. Rory Sloane is also a smokey at the Adelaide Oval.

Alright community, I’m up on the Mighty Muddy Murray with limited internet access, so I’ll catch you next week! Godspeed and good luck!

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Should have went Eddy to Fox via DPP. Oh well


Fox given a tagging role. Wasn't that good st it. Might struggle to hold his place


I thought Foote was tagging?


No footy on free to air. Jesus died for this?!?!?


Bald Jesus still getting a kick at the suns.


Looks like Yeo could genuinely be a top 8 forward


If he could play all his games in Perth he might


got 139 at Etihad in round 1. Also looks like he's got a clearly defined role down back, unlike previous seasons where he was all over and couldn't build consistency


yeeeooooo….in my side from the get go…..447k to start……..break even 77….scores of (North – away game )139, (Stk – home game)132, (Rich away game) 83 & (syd – home)146 tonight. price will goto $489k…averaging 117 per match- $47k gain….reckon he will peak around $550k, as for top 10..who knows but so far so good..

Averaging 111 away and 139 at home. Weagles have a 10 day break …upcoming games Dawks away, Freo home, Port Away, Doggies Home.


Barrett out trade to swallow ? Or hold ?


I've done this


Very temping going to take my chances and hold


Hold. I would think they are only resting him. Would hope he is back next week


Hanners needs to lift or off comes the head ive had enough


Hannebery needs to back up after last week. Right now, I am not seeing it. If he does not lift in the second half, its time to lob of his head off. Welcome.


Playing on wing this week. 1 centre bounce in first half. Very frustrating


I'd planned to bring him in next week but now thinking I might have to pay extra for Kennedy. Or maybe go for Cripps.
Hanners doesn't look like getting to that 110+ average this year. And really he only made that mark the past two years. Before that he was a ways off top 10 mid.


Another price drop tonight down to $541k.__Has GWS in syd next week, think GWS will smash them, and he'll be on the wing again. Keep an eye out for time played in the guts. If swannies get smashed and Owen – 5, then reckon he will get more midfield time against Carl in melb, bris in syd, then nth and st Kilda in melb….he could go off tap in those four games.. Could be worth bring him in after the GWS game.__Reckon after the GWS game, he will be priced around $530k. If so will look to bring him in, and trade out d.swallow if he plays this weekend with the corky. -42 break even, plays carl this week ave 114 at Etihad, if he hits the ave price rises to $331k…could be ripe to be traded out then, or wait the following week for the round 2 88 score to roll out, and trade him out at $378k. Case of wait and see, swallow injury worries do concern.


Trade out Swallow at 330K? Or 380K? Heck no why bother.


Parfitt or Pickett on field for JOM?
Thinking Parfitt


Use the loophole. Hawthorn doesnt play until monday


I wonder if all the superstar knowitalls will soon start apologising to those they ridiculed for dropping Hannerspud

Rick Grimes

Hanners is a definite hold. Swans losing without him in the guts. Only a matter of time before he's balls deep and scoring massive. Those who traded out will burn another getting him back.


He's had a 112 and 95 since people wanted to dump him……………………

Tom van Waveren

Simpson traded to Newman and omera to Adams or dusty or slone ranger which mid should I pick thinking of getting Adams and will pocket 220 for another premium upgrade? Any help guys


Is that Sam Simpson from Geelong you traded? Surely it wasn't Kade!


Tim Torranto to Swallow as cover for Jager bomb. Good move? Bad move?
S.PP as bench cover if they both play next week.


I reckon you should be holding people who are playing. Give him a few more weeks


Love your work Patch. The Goonies facing JR Brumby FC this week! Off to an interesting start with Hanners pulling his finger out in the 4th quarter.
Might want to check the emergencies in your mids Jock old chap, two non-playing on fielders and only one emergency picked.


Eddy to Broomhead?


Nope, he wont keep his spot in the Pies squad for long.
Waste of money where you could be using somewhere else.


Newman 80sc and looks a good player. Nice kick, good speed.


Price should rise to $185k, increase of 61.4k…


Old man says, Newman will increase by 79K and have a New B/E -66.
Old wise man is rowing boat upstream.

PS: Depending on Champion Data changing the formulae again two weeks running already.


In easier games could see him really racking up big scores, thought he was found wanting a couple times last night in the heat of the contest.

Mal Burn

Should I take Newmans 80 or Stewarts 20?


Will laugh if Stewart tons up.


Jesus turned water into wine. I turned Jaeger into Wines.


What to do with Caddy? Worried I'm about to panic trade and ruin my season right here


I very luckily traded him out before last week. Don't see him as any more than 80 to 90 ever

Rick Grimes

He looked absolute shite last week. I wouldn't want the bloke anywhere near my team. So many better options.


Should I worry that none of my midfield bench is playing? Barrett and Miles omitted. Mountford was already trapped in my M11 position.

Actually. I only have 4 bench players playing. Hampton, Stewart, Hannan and Preuss. Oh dear.

Rick Grimes

It's a concern but you can't help the whims of selection. Just have to ride it out and see what your options are next week. Rookies are like trains, always another one coming..


Do people think it is worth it trading Barrett out this week for d. swallow, keeping o'meara on my bench this week? Already have the right rookies

Rick Grimes

Barrett has a lot of cash to make if he can get back in. Holding but he was always a bench player for me.


Like most of if us I've been hit by a few of my rookies not playing the two I've got playing are Parfitt and Toranto just not sure who to put on the ground any thoughts if not I'll just have to toss a coin.


I've got both of them playing on ground this week due to carnage! It's not going to be a good week. I'd probably role the dice on Parfitt. He was very good last week & deserved his rising star nomination


JOM barett Eddy all out. Add Mountford & at least 4 supposed money making pawns that are not suiting up. It's a tough year for cash gen


Hey mate so trading out Shaw is loco right? Shaw 79 Newman 80. Jaeger not playing and Murphy 125. Adams on D next week. Still bad cash gen 3 way trade?
Shaw – Newman
JOM – Murphy
Marchbank or Hampton to Adams
P.S Swallow a good 46 with the trade in for JOM?


Taking out bont, treloar, fyfe and tmitch… Who's your pick as the best midfielder left under $620k?


Only early but the Bont seems to be the pick of those bunch.


My bad, I wasn't clear enough sorry… I have those four listed – who's next best under 620 apart from those four?


Sloane or Selwood for me


Agree Selwood or Sloane for me as well (Dusty is >$620k)




Have managed to avoid the rookie carnage with only Barret and Eddy outs for my side..


Finally an AFL game on good Friday, and yep, you guessed it…….not televised free to air!!!! Absolutely ridiculous. I know its because of broadcasting rights -Foxtel and seven, but still, you would think as this is still a Friday night fixture, it would be on free to air. Time to fire up the laptop and do some live streaming. Does anybody know of a good sports streaming site where you can watch AFL?


Hang on, it is a day fixture! It is on free to air in Perth. Its all good. Forgive me for my outburst on this holy day!


Telstra live app on your tablet, free to telstra customers……….or pay 99 for the season.

neil Demons Delight

cash generation is the name of the game and T-T is not going to cut it Someone like Hayward will make more a lot quicker but we will have to sacrifice trades for coin.Remember last years winner traded heavily pre byes and ran out quite early.He won – different to what I am reading here get the likes of Hanna Simmo Shaw in as quickly and cheaply as possible they will come good NO PROBLEMS


The secret is to get them as cheap as possible


Agree, but something preusses breakeven is fighting with me to forget.


Grundy, Martin or Nank for Gawn




Woke this morning to my suprise Hanners scored 95!?!. Couldn't watch anymore of the game after half time, Hanners made my anxiety hit the roof! Turned the tv off and went to sleep.

I was really considering of trading him out next week, the bugger came in my dream. Hanners ended up being a top 15 mid at end of season in my dream and tonned up last nights game, which he came close at 95. Don't know he done it, but he did! Also dreamt Crouch being a top 5 mid by end of season.

Hmmm! Wonder if Supercoach Gods are telling me something. I'll be keeping Hanners after all, I've already lost a lot of cash on him and will lose more if I upgrade him to an uber premo. On the bright side he'll be good for M7 or M8 by end of the year. Hopefully my about Crouch will come true and becomes a top 10 mid.


He did ok. Was the second highest scoring Swan behind JPK.

I can see swans getting better and winning 4 out of next 5. Hanners should do much better in a winning team.

I saw him at about 3 centre bounces, very frustrating.


If you've come this far donkey & taken multiple price hits on Hanners you need to keep him. The sharks have him close to the top of the shopping list


Marchbank or Hampton on field




Marchbank the safer option


Hampton. Think we could only bank on marchbank in march. Makes sense anyway.


Taranto on the field and hope he starts churning some decent points or trade to Dswallow? Will have to burn another trade as swallow prob not a m8 keeper. Could play p pepper also


I won't be surprised if GWS smash Port. TT playing forward should get a couple of sausage rolls



Will have 4 0's on the bench this week, even after 2 trades.

Have 6 out of the 10 DAN AYKROYDS

Things are not looking good

Trades for me this week where
Smith –> Newman
and Ill go Gawn to Grundy today most likely. But am still considering Preuss as cash generation will be hard this year, especially with none of my rookies playing


Looking at the landscape cash is tough Youngy. It's a massive ballsy move to go Preuss. But I'm not against it. I'll be pulling the trigger on Goldy to Preuss after final teams are named & slotting witts into R2


The reason I'm leaning towards Witts for Gawn (already have Pruess at R3), to compensate for slow rookie cash generation. Have three 0's on my bench this week – the silver lining being I can use each one as a loophole.

Youngy, if you're struggling for cash generation I think you should strongly consider the Pruess option.


I did a double downgrade this week for cash gen Youngy

My trades were Taranto > Fox and JOM > Newman


Goldy to Pruess is a loco trade! Why would trade a premo to a rookie when Goldy will finish top 3 rucks. See what I did there?


Goldy to Pruess is a loco trade! Why would trade a premo to a rookie when Goldy will finish top 3 rucks. See what I did there?

neil Demons Delight

Agree with the guys Youngy Though martin seems the logical choice Pruess is where I am going.


Thoughts on trading Jaegar to Mcluggage then banking the cash/


McCluggage only scored 43, and costs 200K…………..should've got Fox in?


Go Balic if you're trading to avoid a donut. Otherwise hold


Heard JOM was out early so banged my E on Barrett…only to learn he's out too. Found out too late to put E on Fox.

So my on field options now are:

1. Pickett (ouch)
2.Swap Macrae or Dahl for Pickett and have them on field in place of JOM.
FWD line then gives me option of either Pickett or Hannan.
Put Eddy on field, bench Hannan with E, if Hannan spuds then I put Pickett on field in place of Eddy, should have about 40mins between games to spare!

Obviously option 2 is the goer, but what's my cutoff in points to keeping Hannan? 60? Given Pickett's putrid average do I accept even less than that?

Advice welcome, thanks community.

Vale Swans….


Well worked out. I'd keep 50+


Which 2 onfield out of Houston, Butler and Parfitt


Houston and butler easy


Butler and Parfitt.


Got some Captain options all of which involved Danger C Obviously. Who should I pick for VC?
Fyfe, Sandi, Beams, Pendles, Treloar


Fyfe or Pendlebery.


A little help boys, Swallow or Murph for Jaeger, 200k vs 5k in kitty, leave Gawn on bench and hope Dusty's price doesnt rise too much
Or Dustin in for Gawn nothing in kitty? Suggestions appreciated


Jager to murphy




None of the above


Thinking of putting Nank in from the forward to the ruck trading out Gwan but that won't leave me a ruck back up and moving Parfitt or Taranto from the middle into the forward line and getting in Sloane or Martin does this sound like a good move. Not sure either on which one to get Sloane or Martin.


So hard to come to a final decision on this:

Option 1 -> Straight swap Gawn to Stef Martin

Option 2 -> Swing Nank into R1 and turn Gawn into NRoo

Option 3 -> Swing Nank into R1, and via Parfitt or Pickett MID/FWD DPP turn Gawn into Bont

What do you all reckon?


Already went J.Smith – Newman for last night.


Roo or Bont


I am staying away from NRoo. Knee worries me and is a bit expensive.

Martin, Grundy? Still don't know….. I still think Goldy will come good and will be able to get him around $450k in s few weeks. I was thinking Grundy, but I worry that Cox will become a Preuss Mk2, Martin has already jumped in price….. hard choice.

Not a Bont fan but I can see why you would be, CD love him, and if CD love him so do I. I was thinking Pendles, but will wait to see effect on him after Wells has played a couple of games.


Dusty or Sloane? Someone help a bafuzzled fella out




Why's that


Because dusty is the better choice


Sloane. Just cos.


Is anyone trading JOM down to a rookie? Not sure whether to downgrade to forward rookie for cash via dpp, or to downgrade to swallow for 50k in the bank? cheers!


Thinking same Ben but have to decide if going to Swallow on the bubble better for $ growth. Also considering Gawn to Dusty or Reiwoldt and put Jaeger on pine for a week or so. I guess it all depends on yr cash generation needs. Wish I had of done the newman trade last week, then would do both this week.


yeah its tough man. i would do the gawn to dusty trade this week if i were you. hes looking the goods to me. theres no good mid rookies i want to bring in so might have to do JOM to Swallow


Not really many options there Ben, Fox was probably the most viable, reckon I'm going down/sideways to Swallow myself


I am still working out what to do.

1. JOM down to Swallow and Tuohey up to Adams
2. JOM up to Bont but will need to drop Tuohey down to Otten


IS MURPH THE REAL DEAL?…..up $50 k after this week if he hits his BE, averaging 142 after 3 games
Any thoughts?


Not worth at all.. missed boat in my opinion. Watch him either cop a real tag this round or just stink it up. Pretty much his first actual decent preseason, but the bloke can't handle a tag from what I've seen.


I think not


He'll come back to the pack at least imo


This 142 avg is what's getting coaches like us attracted like a moth to the light.
Thing is 520k is still cheap as chips if he can avg 110-115 from here on out. I don't think he will be top 10 mids at seasons end but would be damn close to it.


I reckon he'll average 142 for the whole year.


Could drop to 140


I dont have him but has been a proven premo before. I think he will average 110+. People have also forgotten there is no malthouse either. Malthouse destroyed his sc relevance when he was there. He was tagged in the years prior to malthouse and still averaged 110+.
Full preseason and no Malthouse could mean big things


Who to start on field out of Jack Bowes, Parfitt, or Picket? Thanks lads


I'd go Parfitt mate. Looked good last week.


Parfitt by a mile

Hawks slow, old and no midfield Geelong will kill them and all Geelong players will get the better scaling pts so Parfitt for me should shit in 65+


Agree with the others, Parfitt


cheers guys! parfitt it is


Just remember 2 weeks ago I called out Hannebery to avg 105 at best after his first two rounds.

The whole Sydney midfield is slow and stale, on JPK is a reliable choice this year


Swans have got no service from their rucks this year.

Sinclair 24 HO….

Once they get their ruckmen back they should do ok.


The only risk is that their ruckmen may stay on an involuntary rotating roster, they're all so fragile each of them seems to struggle to sting a decent set of games together.

Whether Hanners returns to his form of last year really depends on whether his role returns to an inside mid, versus his current outside / wing role. Will be the difference between circa 100 avg and 100+ avg.


Agree Dutch
I had him to start with and after 2 rounds I have seen enough. Understand that Sydney have some notable injuries to good players right now but losing Tippet in the ruck meant it will get worse for the Mids


Assuming Hanners is in the guts…


Very frustrating to watch


Hanners will come good once there team cones back


Not trying to suggest horse has them all smoking cones


Goldy to Witts or Martin?

Was looking at a premo for premo most of the week, but then I saw how bone dry some people's bench were, cash gen seems to be a problem even if I've only got 2 out this week, the rest on the bench arent getting much over 50.

300k in the bank if I go Witts, 100k if I go Martin.


Isn't Witts already nearly $300k?

He isn't rookie priced anymore!

Not a good cash cow, missed that one.


Whilst Derek is correct, Witts is no longer a true cash cow, he should still appreciate in value by $150k or so whilst earning decent points – if you're short on cash generation elsewhere he's a viable option. Just need to accept another trade will be required around the byes to turn him into a premium. I'm thinking of him as a (hopefully) reliable mid-pricer now.


David do you have him or are you getting him


Derek mate thats not even funny. People might see that post and believe you. He will at least average 160+


Raffaruci no mate don't have him and not looking at bringing him in at all

Got 3 spots to fill in my mids they will be Pendles, Martin and a smoky come bye rounds


Take Newman's 80 and loophole Hampton? Thinking of taking it as probably not too much to lose. Hampton is in the middle but had a quiet period last week.


Take the 80 for sure


You take an 80 from a rookie every day of the week


Lock the 80 in for sure


Thanks for the feedback.

Locked and Loaded

Do we trade Goldy? Or give the big man the benefit of the doubt?


As soon as I see no late changes, he's out. Preuss is in for cash gen

Locked and Loaded

Leaning towards Preuss as well… just have to accept that we will need to make another trade for an upgrade later on…
Another option is to swing Nank into the rucks and bring in a fwd but then you lose your swing


I've dropped him for Witts

Tried and Trusted

Gday lads, any news on swallow and his small knock? he okay to play tommorow?


I read on the AFL website that they will manage O'Mearas knee. He may miss 2 weeks. Not good news for the future either.


Move him on


Goldy having a field day in the first half. Against the Bulldogs no less. Probably average 120 from here. sigh.


Finished on about 100. And Pruess makes a significant impact to his scoring potential


Yep I'll be happy for him if he does well but I'm not devastated to have him out of my team


Goldy back to no 1 Ruck and Preuss is rookie cash gen to Grundy. Preuss avg 70 for season


Dahl. 143 put VC on him and will no doubt loop this for C score but Danger against Hawks smells like 160+
Macrae. 103
JJ. 87

Solid Easter Friday scores

Stupid Coach

So far traded Hibberd (NM) to Newman and happy with that even if it meant loosing the DPP on Lloyd.

Have Gawn and JOM. Gawn to S Martin leaves me around $140k. I could then trade JOM next week but would need to make a downgrade first to be able to trade him to a premo mid.

Does this sound like a good trade strategy or am I using too many this early in the season (currently have 29)

Any comments much appreciated


You have lloyd = lucky trade JOM to premium top 10 mid Sloane or Selwood or whoever you think will bolster mid. Gawn to Stefan M is hopefully premo to premo top 2 Ruck. Butcher those rookies to get what you need SPP bout to get his head cut off for my M8 premo thinking Sloane


SPP having a shocker, got him on the bench as E loophole. What score should I take from him over Pickett on the field?


Goldy having a field day in the first half. Against the Bulldogs no less. Probably average 120 from here. sigh.

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Good luck struggling your way through this bye crap if supercoach and fantasy keep the same format.

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