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PODCAST: Supercoach Round 4

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PLENTY TO GET THROUGH THIS WEEK FOLKS

Max Gawn. Todd Goldstein. Marc Murphy. David Swallow. Nic Newman. Stacks more.
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Ty Webb

Thank you lads!

LoganJosh7

Eddy to Parfitt or hold?

parfitt on the bubble plus need a duel position rookie in my forward line.

LEKD0G

The highlight of every bloody Tuesday afternoon

Tyruddanaut

Never heard anything truer

Gazzzzza

Haha lekdog couldnt agree more

Raging Bulls

Time to draw my weekly bubble bath…

Mick

Is that a home brew in a PET bottle in Jock's hand, in the promo picture?

Top Gun

Two turds in her pan and one in her bush. Bahaha! Love it guys… Trying to get rid of my turds this week.

Bells E Bubb

Witts and Sandi might be keepers at this stage.

Youngy

Sandi will get injured at some stage. Most Likely.

Lach

Sandi will be getting the rest treatment if finals bound for freo.

Youngy

If he gets rested that is bad for SC

Goofy Buffoon

Rested you say?

That's what the Nank is here for! Witts R9, Nank R12 Sandi R13 byes… will be a pleasure to manage thru the byes.

Jim

O'Meara to Swallow. Is it really worth it like everyone is making it out to be?

Tyruddanaut

Not worth a trade wait a week

Col

That about Taranto plus 50k to Swallow?

DAVIDDDDDDDDDDD

can completely understand this trade being done

Youngy

No defintely NOT worth a TRADE

Gav

????wrong

BeaglieBoy

Swallow on the bubble this week will rise very nicely this week and for a good few weeks after that ….O;meara will rise a small amount as long as he reaches his 60ish break-even and his shit score from this week will be in his average for weeks…..also on what we have seen Swallow appears to have a better point scoring potential, is in better form and confidence…..and will leave u with a post trade profit of $47k…..I like this ytade…..have seen worse ones with less justification

Shizzer

What about marchbank and Hannan out for Newman and swallow via dpp or Hannan to Newman thoughts?

SF4

Keep Marchbank for a while and hold onto Hannan until he begins leaking cash.
Find a different way to get Newman in, if you can get rid of a EVW, Hibberd, Smith or another non playing DEF rookie.

LEKD0G

Phillips back in the VFL side for Carlton, will come into the Blues best 22 soon and ruin Kreuzer's output

leedy

Thanks for the good news Lekdog ๐Ÿ™

JuddWarneLoveChild

Agree no idea why, but Carlton never seems to let Kreuzer play as a solo ruck for long.

INPieman

Um why

Steeeve

Great stuff lads. As always.

Putting my plums on the line this week and going Goldy out to Darcy Cameron. I'll have Sandi and Preuss as my r1 and r2. Cameron r3. Hope he gets a game soon.
I have Nank in the forward line for cover.

This will leave me with over $600,000, I'll wait a week and trade out Pickett or some other spud rookie for Hannebery (super cheap).
Then I'll wait another week and trade out a defence rookie for Kade Simpson (super cheap).

Rather than waiting for rookies to fully plump up, I'll snaffle these premos at bargain basement price and be closer to full premo quicker. Hoping it can help separate me from the pack.

Tyruddanaut

Don't jump the wait wait until teams are named

Steeeve

Obviously if Preuss is dropped etc I'll be reversing asap.

In that case I might go Goldy to Nick Roo via Nank.

And I know that seems like the better option to do straight away but: a) N Roo won't be at a discount; b) I will be getting one keeper premo instead of two.

Sauce

I admire your large plums, great success of Cameron gets a gig

Sauce

If

Steeeve

One premo out, two in. Will sacrifice some points this week but Goldy could get me another 60 odd anyway.

Tyruddanaut

Just a thought. A small thought that could change how I play the game of Supercoach. Strengthening the defense is important considering lack of eligible rookies so how about one extra rookie in FWD and Dahlhaus in MID will create room for an extra premium defender! Thoughts?

Top Gun

I have a friend who started with 5 premium backs thinking outside of the box. It has worked a treat for him and he is in the top 300 climbing each week.

Dildor

Felt like this podcast needed to go for 3 hours, many unanswered questions. Oh the joy of sc

Dan

Provided he fits the team's structure, is swallow a must have?

Micky_B

Not worth the trade yet. Going higher than he will for the season especially after the hawthorn game which won't happen too often. I'd hold an omeara or similar for 1 more week but also depends on breakevens

Sauce

No

Youngy

Agree Not a must have

TigerMan

Watch Marc Murphy get tagged quite soon if he keeps this up

Youngy

Agree don't see him keeping up this output and being a top 8 mid

Smurf

Just watch me flex

Jimmy

DEF: Laird, Lloyd, Howe, Otten, Marcbank, Hampton (Stewart, Hibberd)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendles, Rockliff, Fyfe, Priddis, Ablett, Powell-Pepper, O'Meara (Barret, Parfitt, Mountford)
RUCK: Nankervis, Sandilands (Strndica)
FWD: JJK, Greene, Macrae, Roughead, Butler, Houstan (Eddy, Pickett)

Trades: 28
remaining salary: 26,100
Rank: 32k

so i have absolutly no idea what to do with my team help would be real appreciated community thanks

David

Hibberd/Mountford to Newman (pending teams)

Only other trades worth considering are:
– Roughead to Witts via Nank
– O'Meara to Swallow/Murphy (if you did the trade above, might have the money)

Would only do those if you think that A) Roughead will not be good enough for F6 AND Murphy will be a top 15 mid

David

*Preuss also a consideration for Roughead if you think we can rely on him.

Col

Putting Nank back in the forward line gives you ruck cover via Strn.
Newman a must for def this week or miss the boat

SF4

Gotta get Newman in.

TDEV

Considering trading out Taranto, don't have any other issues. What are my options? Got 150k in bank, already have Swallow.

Kev

Nothing that stands out, so it's probably better to hold him. If the trigger finger needs to be itched then Hayward is on the bubble this week. In the mids Fox is too. Balic/Berry are highly rated at their clubs and should stay in

Youngy

No other issues?? Thats impressive if I had 4 trades this week I would use them ALL. I have so many problems

SF4

GWS have mid problems due to injuries and haven't really got anyone to come in and fix the midfield up. Tarantos JS should be as safe as houses for a while. With injuries Taranto might be able to produce some better scores aswell. Hold onto him.

Jake

I reckon he'll pump out a 75+ and start making money soon TDEV, I'll be keeping him this week.

Jojo

Hi community
Jock your a legend mate
What are all your thoughts on going picket to Robbie fox or is it to early jump off picket

Sauce

If you are happy with Pickett scoring 40-50 each week it is a hold if not move on to someone like a Fox who is on the bubble

Cr0magn0n

Pickett hasn't been scoring 40-50 points.

Jake

Don't know if Fox is worth it, maybe have a look at Balic and Berry this week, or consider Will Hayward.

Top Gun

Wouldn't be surprised if Harrison Wigg for the Crows and Frances Watson for the Eagles get a game this week. They have been killing it in the magoos.

Kev

Agree on Wigg. Though ScottyT and BCrouch are ahead of him and both will be back soon

Watson on the rookie list. Do west coast have space to elevate someone?

bUCKET__

2 spots available for rookie elevation at West Coast(1 LTI with Nicnat, one because the main list is short). Petrie was elevated for Lycett I think .

Watson is exciting for eagles fans, he takes the game on with his pace and agility, as well as winning contests. Huge talent. But he still needs to develop physically before regular AFL games and needs to improve decision making.

Worst thing that could happen to him for SC-relevance is playing a game this year, can't see him playing too many and will have his price stuffed for next year!

Gaz

Listened to interview with Adam Simpson Monday – sounds like Watson is progressing well but has plenty of competition for a spot.

Adam

Not yet

Xan

Do I go unique and get Ollie wines or is it safer and a better option to get the Bont

Tyruddanaut

Bont is the SAFEST OPTION IN THE GAME

Youngy

Depends if you want a POD or not

Daniel

POD is only important if they score similar or better to the mainstream choice.
Bont looks like he will handily outscore Wines by the end of the year.

Aydo

Great podcast again boys!! Anyone chasing swallow? Tempted to trade Taranto to swallow. If he keeps tracking the way he has he will surely make a bit of $$$ which will make for an easy upgrade or a good M8/9. Not sure if I'm wasting a trade as that would push SPP to the bench though.

Sauce

If swallow does not fit in your structure then there is no point getting him

Tyruddanaut

Structure is a bullt*sh price of work that makes you pressured to do what the good people are doing and it stopped me from getting Murphy, nank and swallow this year so if it sounds good do it!!!!!!

Kim

Swallow will easily outscore spp, will easily av 80+ a week rookies will av 65-75 if that. Easy decision for mine.

Sauce

I NEED HELP
This is my situation:
I have both JOM and Jack steele without Nanki and swallow, if I trade JOM to swallow I can afford the trade Steele to Nanki, do I hold with JOM and Steele or trade to swallow and Nanki

Tyruddanaut

You're buggered there. I wouldn't, even though I love nank, because that's 2 trades wasted. But the short term benefits are good. Do they outweigh the long term?

Sauce

Cheers

Sauce

Yes

JuddWarneLoveChild

Thoughts on swinging the Nank from forward line for Gawn, to allow bringing that lyin prick Riewoldt back-in (after R1 he claimed to out for 4-6 weeks so i traded him). That way the decision on who comes in for Sandi when he gets injured will be easier?

Tyruddanaut

What I would do if I had gawn

Top Gun

Prefer to wait a few weeks on St Nick. If he gets injured again you will have brought him back twice and be fuming.

CJudd3Votes

Lost Gawn obviously so trades this week were JOM to Swallow in the guts because i feel like he will generate cash and earn his keep, then Gawn goes out, Nank into the ruck, Pafitt forward, Hibberd to the midfield and bringing in Newman. This leaves me with 600k in the bank to do a double upgrade next week however one less premo on field so unsure whether I'm vunerable this week now? Ultimately my thoughts are I'll need money hence bringing in Cows but curious on the community's opinion

Tyruddanaut

I think upgrade swallow to a premo

Sauce

This is some good stuff as far as I'm concerned but probably depends on how many trades you have left because you will use 4 trades in two weeks

Youngy

Id hold JOM.

Luke444

How is that possible who do you swing parfitt for?

Youngy

Brilliant Podcast Lads.

Love your work.

Elijah

Hey community, the podcast has inspired me to think about trading david swallow in for tim taranto (i have 97k in the bank and this trade will mean i have 26 trades left). What are your thoughts?

Steve

Do the first one

Finnius

Taranto or Pickett to Swallow? Means I have SPP on the bench

SF4

Pickett has to go before Taranto.

Tyruddanaut

I don't know… I think Taranto should first

Brandon

Any merit in trading Gawn to strndica? I started with sandi and witts in ruck alongside Gawn, and traded nank in fwd last week, could swing nank to ruck but that forces witts/sandi to the bench.. good idea or stupid? Would result in leaving 600k in bank for 1-2 weeks

Youngy

Hmm not a bad situation. If it was me I would go Gawn –> Preuss.

Tyruddanaut

Preuss, unfortunately, sounds like the best option in your situation. But next week get 2 premiums in with that extra cahs

Kev

I'd go Cameron. You've missed Preuss. Cameron/Nank swingset if Sandi or Witts start to cause trouble. Cameron more likely to get a chance than Strndica

Lach

Option 1: Taranto –> Grundy
Option 2: Taranto –> Riewoldt
Option 3: Taranto –> Murphy / Wines

Youngy

Option 4? Hold Taranto?

Lach

Not to my liking.. I have 300k in bank, obviously it's worth upgrading him in my state.

Youngy

Probably Riewoldt as he will be a top 6 fwd most likely whilst Wines/murph wont be top 8 mid. Dont no about Grundy need to no ur ruck situation

Danners

Riewoldt is probably the most likely to be a top player for their line

Tyruddanaut

Grundy can wait a round if you have time, maybe even 2. So Roo for me

muzz

Started Gawn,Sandi and Preuss, no Nank in ruck or fwd is it to late to get him now as ruck and then switch to fwds later

Youngy

Gawn to Nank is a pretty solid trade

uDonkey

I too feel it's time to cull MBank and Higgo just confirmed it for me. My gut feeling just kept telling me it's time to move him on for a keeper and Florent to Newman.

Beady Eye

If you were only going to cull him after 3 rounds, why bother with Marchbank in the first place?

Touk tuk

U have to give him another week

uDonkey

We didn't had much options of Rookies down back it's why i picked him for 200k Rookie was a hifty price to pay in the first place. Now with all these lower price of Rookies coming up at lower and bargain prices time to go on them and make more cash.

Tyruddanaut

Round 4 or 5 at minimum but I can get a premium if I trade him next week

BeaglieBoyy

I guess the Gawn/Goldy set and forget rucks has proven to be a fallacy….every year the rucks are a problem…..6'10" giraffes are always prone to injuries, reports and form drops and it seems they can't cope with other giraffes in the team with them….in past years have had Sandi/Martin/Jacobs/NicNat/Mummy/Maric/ etc and paid $500k-$600k for the fragile bastards…..this year went with a cheap Sandi, Witts, Nank and Preuss and couldn't be happier…..not that I expected all 4 to have done so well so far…..and it is a long season before us …..but I hope to ride my luck for as long as possible before trading in the surviving ruck premo's be it Grundy or Martin or who ever…..

On another note I WILL be trading out O'Meara for Swallow andTarranto for Fox…..brought in Newman last week for Hibberd

Tyruddanaut

Someone told me in preseason "Gawn and goldi, set and forget, lock up and throw the key."
Good. Congratulations mate

Leeds17

Need help Community, is there a genuine Forward option under 562K?

Youngy

Macrea, Dahlhouse, JJK, NANK

Top hawk

All forward options are cheaper than $562K.

Leeds17

Yeah my bad guys I meant to write "462K"

SF4

Nank if you haven't got him already.

RJH

Don't really have any issues I need to fix in my team this week, hibberd to Newman is an obvious trade but should I go Taranto to Swallow, Hayward, Fox or hold him for another week? Thanks

Youngy

Hold Taranto

Top hawk

Agree. With a BE OF 10, easy cash to be made there this week. I reckon "Tonto" is not far away from a big game. He is staying in my side for now.

Dutch

Agree, TT looks to have good job security for now and will make steady money for the next few weeks, one big game and he'll comfortably get to $300k+. Preserve those trades! None of Swallow, Hayward or Fox are must-haves (on current exposed form), if you are short on cash generation in your side trade out a non-playing rook.

Ben

Thinking of trading out Salem for Newman and Reid out for Roo, good idea?

Danners

A good idea

Scyb

Why are people trading out of roughy? He looks pretty good so far??

Danners

Some of us didn't start on the Nank train. But yes he is still a good option

Harry H

Yep I agree. I'm definitely holding him and think he's a keeper. He was never going to start at a million miles an hour and just have to show some patience

Campbell

55,200k left and 29 trades. This is my team now
Def: Adams, Docherty, Laird, Lloyd, Otten, Hampton (Stewart, Vickers-Willis)
Mid:Dangerfield, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Kennedy, Treloar, Beams, Powell-Pepper, O'Meara (Parfitt, Barret, Pickett)
Ruc: Nankervis, Sandilands ( D Cameron)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Hoskin-Elliot, Butler, Taranto (Houston, Eddy)
1. Was thinking Vickers-Willis to Newman
2. Not sure whether to hold or trade O'Meara if trading was thinking putting Taranto into mid, Nankervis into Fwd and putting Wiits in the ruck.
Thoughts?
Any ideas or thoughts please respond, Cheers.

musicissport

1. Yes
2. JOM to Swallow, too late for Witts

Izzy

G'day Lads, i am looking for some elite opinions on my trades.
Thinking of the standard EVW to Newman and Taranto to Swallow. Will leave me with 26 trades, 45k in the bank and no real issues in the side… what does the community think????

musicissport

First option good, I would hold Tarranto though. Any other way of getting Swallow in?

DacZawson

If Taranto is either on your mid bench or in your forward line I'd consider this before pulling the trigger on the second trade.
If you wait a week on Taranto and then next week you trade one up-one down with Taranto and Marchbank, you could be one more premium better, rather then trading for a short term midpricer in Swallow.

Col

Next week you will be lucky to have 600k between m.bank and Taranto. Given you spend around 120k for a new rookie on the bubble you will still only have 480k which will not really buy you a premo

DacZawson

Apologies. I really didn't think through the maths behind that. I take that all back. I'm glad you're on the ball Col.

Top hawk

As always, a top shelf podcast by Jock, Higgo and Crouching one!

Like 99.99% of fair dinkum coaches, Nic Newman has to come in this week at the expense of Joel Smith. That leaves me with 27 trades. I reckon that will be it trading wise this week.

That said, I am quietly pondering about Jack Steele tonight. He was serviceable this week with his 88, after his earlier efforts of 65 and 113. His price has increased by $28K to $375K. His BE going into round 4 is 66………Already fairly elevated for a bloke who I thought would be in a much better cash generation position than that. He should get 66 this week (didn't in round 2 mind you) so he probably deserves the respect to prove he is the real deal this week or a SC liability. (TRAP a bit harsh)

If I decide to trade him out this week, I can afford the services of potential premo keepers such as Marc Murphy or Nick Riewoldt. I currently have $177K in the bank.

Most probably going to sit on my hands this week, but its tempting to trade up to my first premo after the player price reset this week. It would obviously enhance point scoring power to my side and set me on my way to being full premo sooner rather than later.

What do others in the community reckon? Cheers

DacZawson

With Jack Steven out and St Kilda playing a few games at Etihad in the near future (prefers smaller areas so he can win contested ball), I reckon it's worth giving Steele at least a couple more weeks to show us his true potential

Dutch

Agree, you got Steele in to make some coin, he'll still do that and his scoring potential over the next month or so is decent – I'm holding him for at least another 2-3 weeks – if Steele is your biggest concern you're travelling well.

Neverweaken

Keep for at least another week. Then look at Hanners perhaps. Having traded out Roo I'm scared to get him back in. Don't think I will touch him til the byes

Steve

Been pondering the same in my team but will give him a week or two. Gasnt been what i hoped. His first week scored well but was little influence on ground..realy wabt riewolt in my side though….need to upgrade my def first though before i think of fwds unfortunately

musicissport

Not 100% sold on Murph being genuine premo despite great start. I'd keep Steele one more week, if he spuds you won't lose much coin if any.

Youngy

Im not convinced on Murph either

Steve

Agree think murph will average hugh 90s low 100s.. .good option in fwds but not absolute premo

Youngy

1000+ Coaches have Traded out Heath Shaw. WOW

Trigger Happy Coaches

Dutch

He'll be heavily sought after in a few weeks when his price bottoms out, a few of these 1000+ coaches will be regretting their decision by then.

he Man

T McDonald to Newman and Crouch up to Bont? Good trades or half-assed trades

Neverweaken

I'm the same except Bob Murphy to Newman. Is Newman a must have? Crouch to Bont is Good.

Danners

Half-assed trades, you're trading two premos out based on 3 performances. Find another way to get Newman in. Worry about Crouch later, should do well with a full team

He Men

Cheers for that mate.'

Tyruddanaut

Fantastic trades

Shizzer

Thoughts on marchbank and Hannan out for Newman and swallow in?

Shane

Dont have hannah

Tyruddanaut

Why Marchbank he's still good, don't waste a trade

Tommo09

Smith, Hibberd or O'Meara out for Newman?

Mich

Dangerfield

Danners

Supposing that is Joel Smith so axe him

Tyruddanaut

Adams

Timchief

Is Dane beams a top 10 mid by seasons end?

DacZawson

Definitely could be IF he stays fit. However this is one of the biggest IF's in AFL footy

Danners

That is the reason why I have him in my team

Harry H

He's got to be a chance. But there's a lot of gun mids- no one can say for sure at this stage

Jay

With the help of DPP magic I'm trading Gawn into a keeper in my ultra light defence. Only keepers down back at the moment are Laird and Shaw. Was looking at Adams, any thoughts?

Neverweaken

Think Adams is a keeper. That was my first corrective when I traded out NRoo

Hutto76

Good trade on the Adams front, based on what we knew, but ouch after Roo's big round!

Neverweaken

Least I didn't swap roo to Kennedy!

Gaz

Adams is a keeper but Shaw ,Laird and Adams would all miss r13 with bye. What about Docherty?

Vinny

I have both Gawn and Goldy ๐Ÿ™

Like if you feel for me

Harry H

Damn go back 3 months on this site and almost everyone had that in place. How times change

Kim

Sorry buddy but given jlt form not sure why you did that given nank, sands and witts all much cheaper options. I feel for you though, sucks big time, I have Gawn not touching goldy this season with a 10 foot pole. Shadow of his 2015 form.

Derek

Great Casting of the Pod fellas.

Any news from Wayno?

Neverweaken

Trade Stewart to Newman or do a corrective and trade Bob Murphy to Newman? Bob seems to be playing all over the place. Not setting up from defence.

Hutto76

Stewart probably has another week or so in cash generation (hopefully), so would be ok on the pine, whereas the Murphy option will give you more upgrade cash and unless he pulls out some vintage stuff, seems to have found his value. Both options have merit, but I'd probably downgrade Murphy!

Dan

Is it too late to jump on Preuss?

Harry H

Not if you think his JS is good. I'm jumping on Witts for Gawn despite his 71k price rise last week. He still has great potential to rise

INPieman

Awesome Pod as always lads. But this is a rare occasion I disagree. The irrelevance of Gawn & Goldy creates opportunity. Gawn simply must be traded & Goldy has been surpassed by a gun rookie with a -82 BE after a price rise. I watched Preuss in the JLT thinking he'd get a chance later. Not true & much sooner. He can already compete with gun rucks & do his fair share around the ground. Goldy as a result is a must trade & maybe see you later. He's more of a liability than Gawn this week given his price will crash. Those that started with Sandiwitts are dominating. This is an opportunity to fight back if you play it right & are willing to trade with extreme discipline. Hold your nerve despite temptation with a bank. Massive price spiking cash cows will be rare this season. This could be an opportunity

Hutto76

Good call mate. I'm lucky enough to be on the Sandi Witts Nankers express, but I would definitely be looking to cull either Gawn or Goldy, if I had them.

INPieman

Hey Hutto. No one knows where the Sandi witts express is going. Destination unknown

Derek

Nice work INPieman.

Who would have thought the rucks would prove to be the make or break this year……… oh yeah, everyone did…..

Spending the big dollars may not get a return in the rucks like it once did. And if you do, beware the second ruck.

Harry H

Yep most rookies are rubbish so have to make the best of a tricky situation. I'm going Gawn to Witts and I already have Preuss. Rucks seem the only reliable money making machine this year. Who would have thought months ago when most people were saying 'set and forget' with Goldy and Gawn! Witts, Sandi and Nank all money making machines.

INPieman

In years gone by Harry that would seem a ridiculous trade. But I see multiple benefits to that trade. I'm fine with that

Kim

Wits I doubt is a keeper though so you will have to use another trade later on. Grundy or Martin better options.

Derek

I have been doing some maths and a few things I have for people to consider.

I started with 12 keepers. The average price of these keepers was $586,000 each.

If I use this as an average price for future keepers to be bought, then added my final 8 bench players at an average price of $150k and a nice DPP bench player for around $350k, the total team value will be around $14,290,000.

If I look at my final team value last year it was a touch over $14mil, so in the ball park.

The problem we will all have this year is cash generation. The cash cows are just not there.

If we lower expectations of team value this year to about $13.5mil at best, we are looking at an average spend per keeper for the next 10 at $516k each.

This is a simple way of looking at it and I have been working on a calculation that is a lot more complex, but the result is very similar.

What does this mean?

1) Trade hard for cash and maybe you will have more to spend. Danger is running out of trades.

2) sell a big whale to lower your keeper average. This may already be happening with Gawn being traded.

3) bargain hunt. Be prepared to get someone who might not be on your best 22 list, but their price just offers too good value. Knowing that every keeper bought over $516k means one that needs to be bought under $516k. This will require care timing and patient.

Otherwise we won't get a full premium team.

Just my thoughts…..

Youngy

Derek I love your thoughts and insight

I see that cash generation will be tough and am seriously considering going Gawn to Preuss. Keeper to Keeper is the expected trade but am not convinced on other rucks. Annoyed I didn't pull the trigger and bring him in last week but can't do anything now. My other trade with obviously be Smith to Newman

Hawks

Great thinking.

Borko

Interesting … looking for value keepers in DEF, FWD and RUC will be crucial to allow a big of extra cash for the MIDS. That's a good guide to work by … maybe sub 500k premos is a good target leading up to the byes

Derek

I did some numbers comparing the top 20 defenders last year to the top 20 forwards and found that 20/20 forwards and 19/20 defenders at some point during the year was cheaper than their starting price.

Docherty was the only exception.

The average difference between the start price and their lowest price was a fall of 29% forwards and only 8% for defenders.

There will be value, there always is.

Top hawk

Sounds great in theory Derek. A lot of moving parts are in play.

Things change. And they change FAST.

Finger on the pulse, instinct, and a bit of luck will make the coach competitive.

Just my take.

Northerner

I've got Sandi-Witts-Nank-Preuss combo. That's helped my cash generation outlook. I suspect we'll continue to see another Parfitt equivalent emerge. Might be Pickett this week. A lot will come down to injury required trading as to whether you will run out of trades to get all the cash cows as they emerge.

Keenbutclueless

Great work Derek. After reading this I tried the math on my own team. I am 12-4-6. If we make an average of $150 per rookie then it may take between 2.5 to 3 rookies to get one premium. Let's say that's 18 trades to get 6 premos. Burnt 3 already to get the right rookies. Let's say it takes 1.5 to 2 trades to turn a mid pricer into a premium. That's between 6-8. That leaves between 1-3 trades left for injuries. Not enough. Seems like we will be stuck with some if not all the mid pricers. For me that means at least 2 of Mills Sandi Nank and Roughy need to still be there at the end. You are right Derek, that does feel a stretch. Might have to lower the sights at some point.

Kev

I hate the term "keeper". If you picked Gawn start of the year he was a keeper. 645k. Same with Goldy. 588k. Same with NRoo yet most would have jumped off after his "4-6 week" injury. Higgins was a "must have" keeper last week at almost 90k under your 516k number, yet he dished up a 58

Interesting way of looking at things, Derek, but I agree with Top Hawk, just too many moving parts in the game of SuperCoach to stick to all future upgrades formula

Derek

You are right Kev, many moving parts and maybe I do over think it and make it too complicated.

There is plenty of luck needed in this game but a bit of planning is always useful

You seem to be doing well and having a few little wins with selections, keep it going mate

Derek

i think that might be the case Keen.

We might end the year with a midpricer or two. It wasn't that long ago I finished the year with Terlich.

neil Demons Delight

Came up with similar figures to both Derek and Keen . My maths and using super gold figures leaves me with 20 good prems 3 sub 500 Hanna types included The remaining prems like Keen will be 2 of Sandi Nank and Oliver. The only way out of this is like last years champ who traded heavily and had none or very few trades post byes .This is dangerous and he was lucky I did similar and it backfired leaving me with Menapoo and Hewitt as starters but without cash cows you wont get premiums just really select right ones not Hannan types you will get stuck with

INPieman

Agree with you Derek. I've come up with similar numbers. You certainly can't rely on Pickett to make any money. Not sure if there are 2 many gun rooks coming through soon. And now Stewart has a 22 turd hanging around for 3 weeks. Newman is a blessing. But are there anymore of those coming? Don't count on it

Tommo09

This is why I would like to pick up players like Hannebery if they drop to 450-500k as they are proven premos who are very cheap

I will be targeting Hanners, Shaw and even Gawn when he comes back in as he might be under 500

Steeeve

In the grand scheme of things most of us will be nowhere near the money come season's end. So then we revert to playing for leagues. From one week to the next the difference between a definite top-10 mid (like say Treloar) and some bargain you picked up on the cheap (any fallen premo who you may conisder in that next tier, say top 15-20) is little more than a coin flip.

Neverweaken

Running Sandiwitts with Nank fwd and Strd for swing. Is it worth trading Strd out for Pruest?

Tyruddanaut

Not now

whatyasmokin

Then you lose your swing. I'm sure this has been discussed.

You will also use two trades bringing Preuss in, and trading him out for profit.