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Round 3 Supercoach Panic Room

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GODSH HECKING DARN IT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

Gosh HECKING darn it. Nick Riewoldt is back ALREADY. After St Nick himself cautioned interested parties – Saints supporters and Supercoachers alike – that he could miss up to six weeks, we had no choice. BUT HE LIED TO US. HE IS BACK. Gosh hecking darn it.

Community, please excuse my appalling manners, and pardon the French – Welcome to the Panic Room!

This is the second most important week of the year after round 1: the final round before price changes. This is the last chance we get to make adjustments to our teams before everything goes haywire, the last chance to jump on those rookies and midpricers we like and to dump those we don’t.

So, please buckle up and keep your hands and feet inside The Panic Room at all times!

THE NEWS

There is plenty of news to come with the unexpected hecking return of Nick Riewoldt. After searching the back of a very bare cupboard in round one, we continue to be blessed by surprise rookies, with Sydney naming their FIFTH debutant for the year, the 123k fwd/mid Jordan Dawson.

While gaining one Dawson in the east, we lose another in the West, with Zac Dawson part of a large posse of spuds making way (it’ll get relevant in a second, trust me) for some new growth, including Griffin Logue (180k def) and Harley Balic (123k mid/fwd), the latter of whom has been averaging 31 touches in the WAFL.

Our forward lines once again feel the touch of rookie mana, with Jamie Parsons, (117k fwd) from Geelong, Sam Durdin (123k fwd) and Timothy Smith (102k fwd) all named for the first games. Addtionally, Hugh McLuggage (202k fwd/mid) and Jarrod Berry (139k def/mid) were named in the guts by the Lions.

Sunday teams have seen us been given looks at Harry McKay (123k fwd), Tom Williamson (117k def), James Stewart (170k fwd), Ben Long (117k def/fwd) – but as to which of them make the final cut is a different question.

Ben Ainsworth will also miss with a quad injury, and Jy Simpkin from North will also miss with a similar injury

Pleasing, nearly all rookies have held their spots, with Andy Otten staying in the side as cover for the injured Josh Jenkins and Braydon Pruess keeping his position despite the return of top dog Todd Goldstein. However, Harrison Macreadie, Jarrod Pickett, Teia Miles and Ben Ainsworth are all named on extended benches and need watching at 5pm tonight.

Jack Steven is missing with a punctured lung, and on top of that, the Saints have named Billy Longer in their extended squad, and if he’s not culled this evening will be very bad news for Tom Hickey owners.

Jon Griffin has been dropped with Aaron Sandilands due to carry the ruck load solo.

THE PATCH UP

Special edition of The Patch Up this week, which will look at some of the popular corrective trades people are making this week: (for which you should also look at Lekdog’s fantastic cheat sheet here)

THE HANNEBURY QUESTION: I’ve been unable to watch either Sydney game this year, and as such I’ve got no clue if the goose is cooked. If you think the goose is cooked: sure, trade him. But you MUST trade him for a premium.

Lekdog was eloquent and To The Point on Wednesday that I’m just going to copy and paste his Wisdoms, “If you have decided to trade a premium you simply MUST trade them to another premium. I don’t want to see coaches trading out a Treloar and bringing in a rookie or even a speculative pick like Marc Murphy. It will just hurt you in the long term. The importance of Supercoach is having ample cash generation whilst maintaining as many keepers as possible.”  So – if you want to trade Hannebury, make sure you bring in a premium in his place. You can bring that premo in anywhere – forward, back, ruck – just make sure you don’t go into round 3 with less premiums than you started with.

THE STEELE CONUNDRUM: Jack Steele had an off week. Midpricers do that, which is why they’re not premiums yet. He’ll bounce back – the wide expanses of Subiaco don’t suit Steele’s contested game, and he does his best work in the confines of Etihad stadium. Hold. Especially with Steven out for 2-4 weeks.

THE HAWTHORN HUSTLE: Should we ditch Jarryd Roughead and Jaeger O’Maera? Maybe and no. It does depend on structures, but with forward rookies popping out of the barren soil like flowers blooming in spring, Roughead down to a Hoskin-Elliot, Houston or the like is too good an opportunity to pass up for my side – Rough will still be a solid pick, mind you, but I’d rather bank the cash and get cash gen going. As for Jaeger – he’ll get better. This is his first competitive football since 2015, remember. He’ll start busting 110s and 120s before too long, especially if he keeps collecting 38 possessions a game.

TIM ‘TARANTULA’ TARANTO: Has a breakeven of zero this week. Starting to cool my jets on TT, and I’m trading him to Houston to make more cashola. Wouldn’t be a bad one to keep for a while.

DO I NEED THE NANK: get The Nank into your bank ASAP, if not sooner. Must-have.

IS SHAUN HIGGINS LEGIT?: I think so? He certainly won’t average 120 for the rest of the year – might go 100 if we’re lucky. But If you all trade him in and ruin my forward POD I will be most upset.

IS CLAYTON OLIVER THE REAL DEAL? Possibly. Would I go Hanners to him? Probably not. Jaeger to him? Yes. Won’t be a keeper, so as Higgo would say, be “cognisant” of that.

BUILD YOUR BANK: If you can downgrade this week, do it (as long as you’re not downgrading a premo!) Having money in the bank is good. Very good. Why?

PanicRoomHomer

For any other patch-ups, hit me up in the comments! However, before you go asking about rookies, check out Barron von Crow’s MUST READ rookie power rankings of who you need and you don’t here!

TRADING PLACES

Alright – if you don’t know the drill, Trading Places is the Supercoach stock exchange, just with far less Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd than the 1988 film. A breakeven is a score a player needs to reach in order to increase in value: if they don’t reach that score, they will drop in price. I’ll collect the most notable 8 or 10 high and low breakevens each week.

The Eddie Murphies are those whose stocks are on the rise:

EDDIE MURPHYS

-90 – Dan Butler

-85 – Will Hoskin-Elliot

-85 – Dan Houson

-82 – Andy Otten

-59 – Mitch Hannan

-47 – Brett Eddy

-29 – Ben Ainsworth

-27 – The Nank

-17 – Andy McGrath

-12 – Brandon Parfitt

0 – Tim Taranto

8 – Jarrod Pickett

8 – Oliver Florent

Dan Aykroyds are those who’s moons are waning, and will drop in price, and damn Daniel (Aykroyd) do we have some price drops coming. Keep an eye on these blokes if you haven’t got them – we might be able to grab them cheaply very soon.

DAN AYKROYDS

223 – Dan Hannebury

182 – Matt Boyd

178 – Paddy Cripps

171 – Gary Ablett Jnr

170 – Kade Simpson

167 – Luke Parker

161 – Heath Shaw

148 – Tom Lynch

145 – Adam Treloar

133 – Max Gawn

RUCKING HELL

Hell was indeed felt in all its wrath by owners of Todd Goldstein, who was a late out for North after leaving training on crutches. The official word is he’d rolled his ankle, and “if the game [had been] tomorrow he would have played.” He’s been named this week, alongside his stablemate Braydon Pruess.

Those with Brayden Pruess or Jarrod Witts on the bench would have been more than pleased to get those scores onfield, however.

For those that played, it was a very, very good weekend for most our rucks – with the only exception being Aaron Sandilands, who was parked at full back for parts of Freo’s shellacking this weekend.

Brodie Grundy had a beautiful 135, The Nank had 124 to continue his massive start to the year, and he is now a must-have for those that skipped the train. Max Gawn continues to be the #1 ruck in the competition after his 111, Stef Martin played far better than his 126 indicates – he tore Shaun McKernan apart.

Even old mates Jarrod Witts and Brayden Pruess managed to ton up! Whaddaya know!

Only downside is Tom Hickey again being unable to crack the ton, against a West Coast outfit featuring Nathan Vardy and Jono Giles as their ruckmen. He’s the only ruckman I’d considering correcting, especially if Billy Longer is named tonight, and if you’ve missed Sandilands or Nankervis, 100% make the leap. Instead of going to Witts, I’d look to sideways to Martin or Grundy.

CAPTAIN McCAPTAINFACE

Come one, come all to the one stop shop for Flogging Dead Memes Well Beyond Their Use-By Date.

This week makes captaincy a little bit harder, with hapless a Freo playing on Saturday night instead of Sunday, meaning most will have to use their VC before Luke Strndica gets locked out. SO – what have we got on offer before then?

Friday night sees us again have an early choice of Collingwood options, and with Scott Pendlebury in scintillating form, he’s the perfect VC option for the round – if you’ve got him. If you were like me, and instead selected Adam Treloar that makes things tougher. Treloar has been in good form, but his disposal efficiency is letting him down. He averages 108 against the Swans, with a top score at the SSG of 125, which isn’t quite enough for my liking.

Josh P Kennedy and Buddy Franklin are also in the frame – with JPK averaging 110 at the SSG and Franklin in dangerous form. I’m going JPK, but only because I didn’t start Franklin.

Saturday arvo gives us few options – GWS and North Melbourne aren’t providing incredibly consistent Supercoach outputs, and I find both of them incredibly difficult to read. Toby Greene has started well, with 138 against a thoroughly useless Gold Coast, and he could once again tear them to shreds. I’d avoid Shaun Higgins as a VC option simply because Jock made me write a contract in my own blood saying I could pick him ONLY if I never made him captain.

Dusty Martin and Josh J Kennedy are both very good VC options if you rate your trigger fingers – Martin in particular has started like a house on fire, and would be an excellent VC option. Kennedy coming up against Alex Rance may have a tougher week, but if the delivery is good he may fire. The Nank is also a very sneaky option coming up against Jono Giles.

Then we get to the heavy stuff – Geelong and Melbourne come up against each other, which would make Max Gawn a great option if Paddy Dangerfield and Joel Selwood weren’t lining up opposite him. Dangerfield only averages 85 against the Dees, and 96 at Etihad, so I’m considering Selwood, who averages 115 against Melbourne.

If you really, really rate your trigger fingers, you can VC the Melbourne vs Geelong game and try and hit Nat Fyfe up for the captaincy this week, or flick across the the Showdown and try Rory Sloane out for size at his favourite hunting ground, the Adelaide Oval.

If Sunday if more your jam, Tom Rockliff has started the season extraordinarily well, my hero Zach Merrett could tear the Blues apart at the ‘G and Tom Mitchell is a valid backup option.

Now, after my opening tirade, I’m off to put money in the swear jar before Higgo’s mum removes my cookie privileges.

May the supercoach gods smile upon you this weekend – best of luck, community! See you in the comments.

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Nick

so are you saying you wld have Vc'ed buddy if you had him? I have pendles too….?? Really torn on who l should pick…

Kev

I'm a sucker for players going big in milestone games. Buddy VC tonight

undypuncher

Same as

Dutch

I am going with Buddy – but then again both my vc selections to date have failed….

Patch

I would indeed be VCing Buddy if I had him, even if I had Pendles.

It could backfire horribly, but that's what the VC selection is for in my view!

Warren

Hanners vc ????

Simmo6

Backing Parker to explode tonight.. VC..

Considering a sandi > WHE via nano to ruck trade..

Thoughts?

Simmo6

Nank**

reff

sandi rucking solo this weekend

Patch

Would probably hold onto Sandi if you can, Simmo. Parker VC is gutsy but I like it!

Finnius123

Not a fan of the sandy trade. Hold onto him. Freo need him firing every week. He won't get rested and is one of the best ruckmen in the comp when he is 100%.

LoganJOsh

so i went hibberd -otten
and sympkin – WHE

would love housten but cant fit him in

anyone else have the balls to hang onto saint nick like yours truly?

Seeker

Wish I had held Roo now, but hindsight is 20/20

undypuncher

Im not dissapointed I traded him I feel im structured better fir cash flow now

LoganJosh

an article came out only 4 days after he was injured saying he could only be 1-2 weeks. he'll be a top 6 forward for sure!

Rick Grimes

Roo not guaranteed to start. Might also be managed for minutes. I'm glad to be rid (watch him score massive this weekend).

Patch

Like those moves, Logan! I moved Roo on, and would make the same decision again with the information we were given, so I'm not annoyed over it! However, he'll be a beautiful POD for you!

TRIGGER HAPPY

Great work patch
Or
Is that great patch work?
Seemed to stitched up all and sundry.
Very comprehensive.
100% agree. Make your trades if they improve your team but not to its detriment.
Don't have nank but got other priorities so will have to let him go.

LoganJosh

no otten in the Eddie Murphy's?

Patch

He's in now, not sure how I missed him! -82

JEL

No love for the Smurph? BE is -19

Dutch

Community, I have Cameron (Syd) as my R3, less assured to get a game anytime soon now that Naismith is named for tonight. Considering trading him for Pruess to get some cash generation in the next few weeks – good idea or not?

Kev

I'd concentrate on other rooks, Dutch. You want them consistently earning up until the byes. By round 5 Preuss will no longer be making large coin when that 111 is out of his system (unless Goldy sits out again). JS is a concern also, was originally out in round 2

Raging Bulls

Contrary to Kev, I would definitely do that if Sinclair plays before Cameron he has HUGE issues, coz I am Swans fan, and Sinclair is the biggest DUD we have ever drafted BAR NONE! Hopeless footballer. And they reckon Tippet might only miss 1. Preuss is a great option. Will end up being $300-$400k at some point and handy R3 at times when Goldy has rooted another teammates missus or less liklier than that hurt himself again (possibly fleeing the scene of tapping a teammates Bird)… Do it if you have all the other rooks locked away! 🙂

Dutch

Thanks Kev and RB for your thoughts.
The other implication of doing this trade is that I will loose my ruck-fwd swing with Nank who I have at F4 (have Gawn / Sandi at R1/2). Pruess will be traded out again before or during byes as he will have fattened up by then. A slightly higher risk profile for the next few weeks, but its not bothering me too much – should it?

Patch

I would, Dutchy, as long as everything else about your side was nicely set

Dutch

Thanks. Have most of the key rooks and happy with all my premiums / mids. Key missing rooks are WHE, Houston and Pruess. Passing on WHE, will stuff up my structures to get him in. Sitting on Smith and Hibberd, will move them on the next 1-2 weeks if new bubble boys appear. Will decide on Houston tomorrow, will maybe come in for Sympkin. Which leaves Cameron >> Pruess as tonight's decision. No trades to date, so comfortable on that front.

Micky_B

Cripps to oliver and smith to marchbank
Or hold cripps and leave smith on the bench?

Will oliver average over 100 from here on in?

BradK

Hold mate. As per above, dont downgrade premos

John James

I like that move,Oliver should score around the same as Cripps and Marchbank is a must for injured Smith,get it done.

Stav

Hey guys, is having 7 from one game too much? 6 are premos and one rookie?

LoganJosh

no – but you better hope they dont both have the bye on the same week

Danners

Doesn't matter, as long as they're getting points for now

BrownlowBoy

Smith (Defence) to Newman this week?

undypuncher

Whats the rush have another look at newman this week and make sure his right

Rick Grimes

Yea, no rush. If you can loophole, so it. If not, just monitor the situation. The likes of Otten, Hampton, Stewart all going to provide about the same return, if not more.

Dutch

Wait until next week unless you are facing a donut

Finnius

I am going the VC on Buddy this week. Could go absolutely huge in his 250th.

TRIGGER HAPPY

I'm going to post this as maybe the community maybe interested in the match ups in
Trigs Happy Place this week.
If not hit me up in the comments and I wont post again on this league.
But if there is enough interest from the community I can post the head to head battles every week and the results on Monday.

The majority of regular community members face off in this league.

Week 3 Matchup: (Head to head battle)

LEK v SC Addict
Liam v Don't blush baby
INPieman v Barron Von Crow (BVC)
TRIGGER HAPPY v Kev
Billy v Rick Grimes
Gator v Moustachio
Neil demons delights v Jock
Shake & Bake v Tophawk
Patch v Swans2012

As you can see no easy games. Gotta bring your best every week. Should be some cracking battles.
Good luck to all.

Randomcliche2

Do it. Go Swans2012!

LoganJosh7

jealous im not in the league – happy to see it tho!

Pablo

I'm interested.

Kim

Next season what do you have to do to get into this league? I am already in top 4,000 and should hopefully finish top 500-1,000 if not higher. Regular poster also.

Liam

Gonna be a good battle all season. Bring it on Don't blush baby.

Swans2012

Love your work trig, would love to get a win on the board early!

Big fact hunt

Awesome trigger but if you do this we need a post on who won and what they scored great job

Neverweaken

Is WHE a must have? Or go straight from Caddy to Buddy? Will be trading out Caddy as a corrective anyway

Patch

I would go to Buddy instead of WHE if ditching Caddy, mate!

POTS

I'm not sure WHE will continue to pump out scores like he has esp with the likes of Elliot and Wells to return. Go straight to Buddy and save a trade that would have been used from WHE to a premo later on.

Youngy

Agree bring in Buddy

BockChoy

I suggest using Caddy as a stepping stone to an ultra premo.

Cliffy

Nice one again Patch!

Got another C option that could be relevant this week, perhaps Beams against the Saints?

144 he had against them last time he played them, and has a last 3 avg of 138 against them.

Nick

im thibnking either VC buddy to danger or danger into beams

Patch

Nice one, Cliffy! Could be a decent option – personally I want to see him string a few 120+ scores together before I'll toy with him as a VC option, but after last week it seems he's got his groove back!

POTS

VC Danger into Beams. If Danger scores well just loophole it.

Jack

Rough head out Nank in worth it??

Kev

Yes

Patch

Lock it in, Jack!

Danners

Might want to read the article

Steve

Is otten worth starting on the field this week? or should i play stewart?

jwill2bong

Otten, Jenkins not playing, Otten will do a bit of ruck work and should outscore Stewart.

Sully321

start otten

Dutch

Often

Youngy

Ye Otten over Stewart

Cliffy

Another thing I wanted to ask was if I was that desperate to get WHE in this week, would it be more feasible to use just the 1 trade and side-swap Roughy or Taranto to WHE rather than having to use 2 trades to get it done?

Cliffy

Additionally I only have $51,700 left in the bank.

Cliffy

Or I could potentially go a Roughy/Taranto – WHE, and for the 2nd trade go Pickett – Hannan.

Neverweaken

Go the one trade. And don't worry about Hannan. Other rookies coming up soon

INPieman

It's been wonderful Gary. But affer your sulk last night your out. Not coming out to speak until someone coughed up a cheque is wrong Gary

BradK

Dam you Ablett. He's been the greatest player for a long time, but he's screwed over both cats and suns. I've been watching his games closely and one of his current problems is his teammates are ignoring him/not giving him the ball. As an ablett owner, this sucks, but is dam understandable considering the flog abletts been. He's playing selfishly and looking for the cheap possies, but most of all he looks like an old man and is sadly no longer the great player I once admired. Adios Garry Jnr

BrownlowBoy

Don't think you can call him selfish or a flog. This bloke carried the Suns the whole time he has been there, where would they be without him. You cannot expect a 33 year old coming off serious injuries to just waltz in and dominated like he did in his prime years. It's just not going to happen. Gary is one of the best players to ever step on a football field, and it's a disgrace what the media are doing, was just about BOG in round 1 and I'm sure many players look disinterested when their team is getting pummelled by 100+ points verse the premiership favourites.

Beady Eye

You can carry a team and still be a selfish flog.

BrownlowBoy

What makes him selfish? Don't say leaving Geelong was selfish either because footy is his job. Leaving Geelong sets him up for life, you can't tell me you wouldn't leave your current job to go somewhere else if they offered you a lot more money than you were currently on.

INPieman

Only speaking to the media after the cheque cleared is selfish

BrownlowBoy

Can see where you are coming from – but family issues might have not have arisen until after the contract who knows. Just disappointing how he is getting belted pillar to post by the media. Not the first player to ask to go home. We all know how Cam McCarthy's situation unfolded.

INPieman

Perhaps he has some personal issues. And fair enough. Heard a couple of times his wife has already packed up & left. But he's got enough money to be selling stories. Might be on the front page of the woman's day next week

BrownlowBoy

Yes I have heard about his wife, also I believe his brother is not in good shape at the moment.

Jack

Does everyone believe in the Ollie Wines hype? Is this the breakout year? Do we trust his consistency? Cheers community

LoganJosh7

the next R.Sloane id say. consistantly around 100 ish

Danners

Port have won both games so wait a bit before getting him

Sam

Nice work Patch

Keen to get thoughts on trading Tom Lynch (SUNS) to Greene?

Sully321

I'd be holding Lynch.

SCaddict

Lynch also had a shocker against the Giants in Rd8 last season with a 42 so this comes with the territory with KPPs unfortunately.

So you should really keep the faith as he could reward his keepers with a good score against the Hawks. Not sure I'd make the move to get on Greene who can be very up and down himself as we all saw last season. Would probably go a Nank or Higgins type and bank some coin or even down to a WHE and only commit to another premo forward when the picture is a little clearer on who exactly will be the top 6 forwards this season.

But ultimately if you have serious doubts about Lynch being a top forward and really like Greene this season then it's your team so make that call. It's just if you side swap too many underperforming premos early in the season you will quickly run out of trades more than likely for little return,

Sam

Thanks SCaddict, wise words. I like lynch and think he'll be getting a coleman soon. My concern is the supply…not sure what happened to the SUNS from the JLT series but hoping they reappear soon.

Early days so think i'll hold the trade

Patch

Couldn't have said it better myself, Addict. Hold for mine.

Pablo

I am also holding Lynch. Part of the challenge with a KPF.

Sully321

Hey community,
I'm thinking of upgrading Roughead to either Brodie Grundy or Taylor Adams. I'm not sure who to go out of the two. If i bring in Grundy it means i'll continue to have a thin defence playing Marchbank at D3 and have only two on field rookies in my fwd line.
If i decide to bring in Adams it would mean I'd have 3 on field rookies in both my fwd and back lines.
I feel like Grundy will be a top 2 ruck this year and I won't get a better opportunity to bring him in than this week. Whereas there will be a lot of opportunities this year for me to bring in Adams.
I really would appreciate your thoughts community.
Thanks in Advance

undypuncher

Id strengthen up backline but id go a more durable option than adams … laird shaw docherty simmo

Sully321

I already have laird and Doc. Shaw and simpson are going to drop in price and i feel they will be easier to get at a later date, so I feel Adams, Grundy and possibly JJ are my only options

BradK

Do people think that Bont cant score as well (or better) than Pendles?

Sully321

I'd think Bont is more capable of getting big scores. But you can almost guarantee Pendles will score at least 110 every week

Danners

Not this year, maybe in a couple years time

Alex

Who's more of a priority Marchbank or Hannan

undypuncher

Marchbank

BradK

Marchbank by a mile. People will probably soon regret they have hannan

Steeeve

Except there are HEAPS of promising rookies coming up to swap him to if he doesn't have another great game in the next fortnight.

Patch

Marchbank, easily

Jack

Who do I field ?
Def-Otten or Stewart

Fwd-Houston or butler
Cheers guys

BradK

Otten to field. Would consider hampton over them both though if you have him. He's named as a follower.

Ozz

Butler or Taranto to start?

BradK

Taranto

Dutch

Taranto

hedski

I'm panicked Patch.
Not sure I need to trade this week, I've never had 30 trades left after round 3, seems wrong cos I like to bang bang.
Maybe I should sideways Pickett to Houston if he's not named tonight to get a bit of that sweet sweet rush that comes with hitting the big T button.
Hold me and tell me alls well Patch!!

Patch

All is well, Hedski, all is well. Shush now, it'll all be fine. Your restraint is admirable, and you've done well. There is no shame in holding trades, for you can always go BANG BANG later in the year. So there, Hedski, all is fine. All is well, my child.

That said, Pickett-Houston isn't a terrible move if you were that way inclined, but I'd probably wait for Heywood or another rookie to bob up instead of Houston

hedski

Cheers Patch, so soothing.

Dutch

Not sure I would use a trade on Pickett to Houston, although I can see the attraction of quicker cash generation. I am determined to only trade on non- playing rooks, even if that means foregoing WHE. Sympkin the key target in my sights at present.

Jimmy

Can someone please tell me how much Heath Shaw is projected to drop in price

CJay

-24.4K Jimmy with a BE 161

Randomcliche2

-24k into -31k on a projected score of 108 this week.

LoganJosh7

if you have him hold.
if you dont wait 2 weeks then get him!

Steeeve

It's irrelevant because he is a keeper

Derek

agree. i think he was looking at getting him in

Steeeve

In that case it is highly relevant. Proceed all haha

undyouncher

So I have hibberd but not otten not going otten cos I dont like his js gonna hold hibberd and look at othrrs next week yay or nay? I have hanners swapping him for merret yay or nay ? and my mid rookies are pepper barret parfit picket and bowes so swapping bowes for aisnworth yay or nay ?

Patch

-Not a bad call, Newman looked Heath Shaw like when drafted according to those in the know
-I love my boy Zachy Merrett, can't go wrong with him
-Not sold on Ainsworth, would look to hold Bowes for another week or so, unless you can pick up a forward rookie for him

Alex

Sandi to WHE via Nank and then J Smith up to Marchbank leaving me with 35K in the bank thoughts community?!?

Flubber

Sandi rucking solo this week. Will score huge

Nado

Considering the Sandi to WHE trade myself. I am still undecided, the main thing to consider is how much extra cash will WHE make. Sandi himself has a breakeven of 0 and likely to score higher than WHE in the long-run.

However, in your case if this trade helps you net Marchbank who is almost a must have then I say go for it.

Dutch

Not recommended

mark

Hey guys should i trade roughy to WHE and upgrade smith to marchbank or just trade taranto to WHE and save my other trade.
I havent used a trade yet

LoganJosh7

dont really like either of those. roughy will get better as the season goes. and taranto will make cash also.
but WHE is a must have so up to you.

Patch

I like those moves, Mark

RickeyRat

Ii actually went Hall to oliver then upgraded Parfitt to WHE reckon forwards are average this season Roughie could end up top 6 or 8 by seasons end,now cashed up to bring in Greene next two weeks already have Dalhaus and Macrae who both will be keepers IMO

Zoomer

Hi Patch. Do you think I should trade Mills. Thinking of Mills to Newman and Jy Simpkin to either the Bont or Mark Murphy. What do you think???

LoganJosh7

wait on newman.

Patch

Agree with Logan, would wait on Newman. However, trading Mills out isn't a bad option, and if the upside is Mills to Bont, I would lock the trade in for mine.

Yes, do it.

Ben

Who should I field, Otten or McGrath?
Thanks

LoganJosh7

otten – no jenkins

Rick Grimes

If Eddie Murphy is the price risers and Dan Aykroyd is the price droppers, who is Jamie lee Curtis? You know what I'm talking about…(well, only if you've seen the movie).

Babo

I get ya mate.

Seeker

I have Simpkin who is out (quad…yeah sure) anyway I'm in three minds
1) Simpkin to WHE (1 trade & $81k in bank)
A little concerned that this is a bit of a 'shoal move' cos everyone trying to bring WHE in

2) Simpkin to Houston (1trade & $175k in bank)
Still worried about Houston's JS but he's a cheaper buy in

3) do nothing Simpkin will play again sooner or later & will slowly appreciate cash value

I also have Joel Smith & Hibberd doing nothing on my Def bench, but Smith will be traded to another bubble boy next week

I'd love some feedback

Daniel

I would be hesitant to wait because it means you could potentially have three bench players out next week.
If there are some injuries or other issues, you may not have enough trades to do what you have to do.
If you don't think Simpkin can get the job done cash-wise, WHE is not a bad bet (think he's around 33% ownership at the moment).

Choppers

I have the same situation. I went Simpkin to W H-E and will keep Smith and Hibberd at D7,8. Likely bubble boys coming up next week and the week after in Newman then maybe Berry(D/M) Long(D/F)

Trader

Smith is out for 12 weeks

Choppers

Thanks Trader. No probs. I understand that., but I also had another trade that I needed to do this round so will probably trade out Smith next week, especially if Newman goes alright tonight and keeps his spot next week.

Dutch

Facing the same dilemma except don't have the cash for WHE. Am considering leaning towards option 2 over option 3, but will see how the Sydney rooks go tonight first.

Andy

What is Zach Tuohy's price projected to change to after this round??

Beady Eye

Up $3.8K if he scores his average.

Neverweaken

Who to put on the field out of Houston or Butler?
Who on field out of Pepper pig or swallow?

Or 2 out of Houston, Butler, WHE

Daniel

The way SPP has looked his first two games, I get the feeling he'll love playing in showdowns. I'd back him in over Swallow but barely.

I'd probably take WHE and Houston (it's a small sample size but his scores so far have been more consistent).

TBone

Is Roughy to Nank sensible? or just a waste of a trade?

Daniel

Depends on if you have any other issues.

Roughy will come good, he is just going to take a few games to get back to his best.
Nank could be top 3-4 ruck by year's end or top 6-8 forward if his form continues. For 366k, that's a good deal and could save you a trade later on. If his form doesn't continue for the season, he'll still have (likely) made more money than Roughy by the byes.

Patch

I like it, TBone. Nank essential

Crabb

Legit my entire midfield is playing saturday night or later…. Nank it is then.

What's your view on Gaz Patch and others? Trade or hold…

Randomcliche2

Lesson learnt. Buy a premo pie each season for neigh on guaranteed Friday night VC action. I forgot to do it and corrected with Roo to pendles trade last week. Oh well….

Captain Risky

Looking ahead I would have gone Bontempelli for VC… The bulldogs have been rewarded for a good season.

Randomcliche2

Very true……….in fact my rnd 4 isn't looking so flash with freo so early on….hmmmm…..

Patch

I… I think I would hold. I haven't seen any Gold Coast games, and I just couldn't see him getting back to his best this year during the preseason, but Murphy's Law says if you trade him he'll average 160 for the rest of the year. I think. I'm not sure.

Crabb

Bloody hell patch no help you are – the key to being an expert is blindingly blurting an opinion one way or another and hoping everyone forgets by next week. You know this ol' boy.

Stupid Coach

At the start of the week, I was thinking of trading Roo to Buddy. Now he is named to play (still think he will be a late withdrawal). Should I:

1. Stick with him and hope he plays and just trade Smith to Otten (also have Laird and Hampton).
2. Trade him to Buddy or Higgins and Smith to Otten or McGrath.
3. Do nothing – trade Smith to Newman or another rookie defender next week when they are on the bubble.

Any thoughts and feedback much appreciated?

Randomcliche2

If you have nank, then 1.

Rivo

Last minute doubts have crept in….

Do I really need to trade out J.Smith to get Butler in through DPP? I can rationalize the cash increase for Butler but already have Houston, Eddy, plus mid swings in Pickett & Parfitt. Do I pull the trigger or Hold? Should have enough field cover without trading. Any thoughts?

Randomcliche2

Target acquired, breathe in, breathe out, squeeze BANG!

Patch

I'd do it, Rivo. Butler one of the best rookie opportunities we've got this year

Rivo

Thanks Patch. Trade done.

Derek

i would do it.

Danny

Trade Zach Tuohy or hold??

SCaddict

Absolutely hold mate. He is averaging 90 which is more than either Shaw or Simmo at this point. He's still adjusting to a new side but is doing his job so far with a BE of just 74.

If he can't maintain a 90 plus average from here you could then look at switching him for a Shaw or Simmo that may have bottomed out in price in the next 2-3 weeks perhaps for just $50K or so which would still be a win. But I think you would be crazy to trade him right now whilst he's holding his price and even making some coin.

Paul R

Contemplating either C.Mills to Otten and building warchest/cash gen or alternatively GAJ to Bont as corrective trade. Was leaning to giving GAJ one more week but last 24 hours leaving me more unsure- any thoughts/alternatives? Have majority of other rooks in place…

SCaddict

I'd do Mills to Otten myself and give Gazza one last gasp before you bury him for good. Whilst Mills should score better than he has it's very unlikely he'll finish as a top 10 defender keeper. So you may as well take the cash grab on Otten now, who could even match Millsy's scoring in the short term, or at least come close. The only slight concern with Otts is his JS with Jenkins to return. But if he keeps performing well and the Crows keep winning he'll make it very hard for his coach to drop him.

Or alternatively you could give Mills another week too just in case he scores well against the Pies tonight and if he doesn't then move him on for Newman next week.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Captain my Captain.

The old one two for me this week:
Danger into Fyfe.
Just gotta have the old trigger finger ready Sat night.

Who's thinking the same or maybe a VC tonight as PATCH pointed out above.

Touk tuk

Vc on danger. C on fyfe or beams… not decided yet

Nick

Buddy or Danger into beams

Sam

Danger into Titchell? Can see Mitchell getting a big score against the suns…thoughts?

TDEV

Anyone else's eyes lighting up at the cash WHE can make for your team. I am really tempted to downgrade Roughie. But I think I will manage to resist, he should improve before bye rounds and I can't see WHE keeping up his form. The hawks are also up against the suns, so the ball should spend a lot of time in their fwd line.

Randomcliche2

Well done. You and me both. I'm splashing on Marchy though. WHE has some good games onto his byes though.

Patch

I have downgraded Roughie. WHE doesn't really need to hold his form, he just needs to average 75/80 to the byes. He'll drop some pant stains but will make us a lot of cashola

Alex

McGrath or Marchbank?

Kev

Marchbank

Patch

Marchbank

Holty

Bugger it, im holding Ablett. Selected him for a reason.

SCaddict

It's a tough call Holty. One I certainly don't envy you and his other tormented owners making.

Randomcliche2

How is Murphy getting in your team?

Can it

Why not downgrade an average defensive premo to get a midfield premo?

Can it

Like say a Simpson, to get a buddy?

Patch

Simpson will come very good by year's end, Can It. Be very cautious about trading them out, but if you want to get one on a different line there's nothing against that

Sana

Over the year you'll most likely find Simpson to be a much more reliable premo than old mate Buddy. Their past tells us that much, but if ya gut tells you otherwise…!

Jimbo

Omeara to WHE via DPP
Smith to Marchbank

Thoughts everyone please???
Went one extra in the midfield so this will mean SPP moves to M8.

Kev

Hold. O'Meara will make enough coin to be worthwhile pick

Patch

Can you go Rough to WHE? Think Jaeger will come good eventually, and I'd be loathe to trade out a guy that picks up 38 touches in his second game of footy for 2 years

B-SC

Roughy to WHE
OR
Brodie to WHE

Kev

Brodie

Patch

Brodie-WHE

B-SC

Thanks

Trade Dilemma

Trade Florent for Butler or conserve a trade? Butler is better in the short term but a trade is a trade

SCaddict

I probably wouldn't. Whilst I think Butler will be a nice rookie for those who started him I'm not sure he's worth getting rid of rookie that still has a pulse like Florent. It only takes one decent game for a rookie to start making coin and maybe it will be tonight against the Pies??

If he doesn't well there appears to be no shortage of promising rookies to switch him to over the next fortnight.

Dutch

Agree with sca