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GODSH HECKING DARN IT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

Gosh HECKING darn it. Nick Riewoldt is back ALREADY. After St Nick himself cautioned interested parties – Saints supporters and Supercoachers alike – that he could miss up to six weeks, we had no choice. BUT HE LIED TO US. HE IS BACK. Gosh hecking darn it.

Community, please excuse my appalling manners, and pardon the French – Welcome to the Panic Room!

This is the second most important week of the year after round 1: the final round before price changes. This is the last chance we get to make adjustments to our teams before everything goes haywire, the last chance to jump on those rookies and midpricers we like and to dump those we don’t.

So, please buckle up and keep your hands and feet inside The Panic Room at all times!

THE NEWS

There is plenty of news to come with the unexpected hecking return of Nick Riewoldt. After searching the back of a very bare cupboard in round one, we continue to be blessed by surprise rookies, with Sydney naming their FIFTH debutant for the year, the 123k fwd/mid Jordan Dawson.

While gaining one Dawson in the east, we lose another in the West, with Zac Dawson part of a large posse of spuds making way (it’ll get relevant in a second, trust me) for some new growth, including Griffin Logue (180k def) and Harley Balic (123k mid/fwd), the latter of whom has been averaging 31 touches in the WAFL.

Our forward lines once again feel the touch of rookie mana, with Jamie Parsons, (117k fwd) from Geelong, Sam Durdin (123k fwd) and Timothy Smith (102k fwd) all named for the first games. Addtionally, Hugh McLuggage (202k fwd/mid) and Jarrod Berry (139k def/mid) were named in the guts by the Lions.

Sunday teams have seen us been given looks at Harry McKay (123k fwd), Tom Williamson (117k def), James Stewart (170k fwd), Ben Long (117k def/fwd) – but as to which of them make the final cut is a different question.

Ben Ainsworth will also miss with a quad injury, and Jy Simpkin from North will also miss with a similar injury

Pleasing, nearly all rookies have held their spots, with Andy Otten staying in the side as cover for the injured Josh Jenkins and Braydon Pruess keeping his position despite the return of top dog Todd Goldstein. However, Harrison Macreadie, Jarrod Pickett, Teia Miles and Ben Ainsworth are all named on extended benches and need watching at 5pm tonight.

Jack Steven is missing with a punctured lung, and on top of that, the Saints have named Billy Longer in their extended squad, and if he’s not culled this evening will be very bad news for Tom Hickey owners.

Jon Griffin has been dropped with Aaron Sandilands due to carry the ruck load solo.

THE PATCH UP

Special edition of The Patch Up this week, which will look at some of the popular corrective trades people are making this week: (for which you should also look at Lekdog’s fantastic cheat sheet here)

THE HANNEBURY QUESTION: I’ve been unable to watch either Sydney game this year, and as such I’ve got no clue if the goose is cooked. If you think the goose is cooked: sure, trade him. But you MUST trade him for a premium.

Lekdog was eloquent and To The Point on Wednesday that I’m just going to copy and paste his Wisdoms, “If you have decided to trade a premium you simply MUST trade them to another premium. I don’t want to see coaches trading out a Treloar and bringing in a rookie or even a speculative pick like Marc Murphy. It will just hurt you in the long term. The importance of Supercoach is having ample cash generation whilst maintaining as many keepers as possible.”  So – if you want to trade Hannebury, make sure you bring in a premium in his place. You can bring that premo in anywhere – forward, back, ruck – just make sure you don’t go into round 3 with less premiums than you started with.

THE STEELE CONUNDRUM: Jack Steele had an off week. Midpricers do that, which is why they’re not premiums yet. He’ll bounce back – the wide expanses of Subiaco don’t suit Steele’s contested game, and he does his best work in the confines of Etihad stadium. Hold. Especially with Steven out for 2-4 weeks.

THE HAWTHORN HUSTLE: Should we ditch Jarryd Roughead and Jaeger O’Maera? Maybe and no. It does depend on structures, but with forward rookies popping out of the barren soil like flowers blooming in spring, Roughead down to a Hoskin-Elliot, Houston or the like is too good an opportunity to pass up for my side – Rough will still be a solid pick, mind you, but I’d rather bank the cash and get cash gen going. As for Jaeger – he’ll get better. This is his first competitive football since 2015, remember. He’ll start busting 110s and 120s before too long, especially if he keeps collecting 38 possessions a game.

TIM ‘TARANTULA’ TARANTO: Has a breakeven of zero this week. Starting to cool my jets on TT, and I’m trading him to Houston to make more cashola. Wouldn’t be a bad one to keep for a while.

DO I NEED THE NANK: get The Nank into your bank ASAP, if not sooner. Must-have.

IS SHAUN HIGGINS LEGIT?: I think so? He certainly won’t average 120 for the rest of the year – might go 100 if we’re lucky. But If you all trade him in and ruin my forward POD I will be most upset.

IS CLAYTON OLIVER THE REAL DEAL? Possibly. Would I go Hanners to him? Probably not. Jaeger to him? Yes. Won’t be a keeper, so as Higgo would say, be “cognisant” of that.

BUILD YOUR BANK: If you can downgrade this week, do it (as long as you’re not downgrading a premo!) Having money in the bank is good. Very good. Why?

PanicRoomHomer

For any other patch-ups, hit me up in the comments! However, before you go asking about rookies, check out Barron von Crow’s MUST READ rookie power rankings of who you need and you don’t here!

TRADING PLACES

Alright – if you don’t know the drill, Trading Places is the Supercoach stock exchange, just with far less Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd than the 1988 film. A breakeven is a score a player needs to reach in order to increase in value: if they don’t reach that score, they will drop in price. I’ll collect the most notable 8 or 10 high and low breakevens each week.

The Eddie Murphies are those whose stocks are on the rise:

EDDIE MURPHYS

-90 – Dan Butler

-85 – Will Hoskin-Elliot

-85 – Dan Houson

-82 – Andy Otten

-59 – Mitch Hannan

-47 – Brett Eddy

-29 – Ben Ainsworth

-27 – The Nank

-17 – Andy McGrath

-12 – Brandon Parfitt

0 – Tim Taranto

8 – Jarrod Pickett

8 – Oliver Florent

Dan Aykroyds are those who’s moons are waning, and will drop in price, and damn Daniel (Aykroyd) do we have some price drops coming. Keep an eye on these blokes if you haven’t got them – we might be able to grab them cheaply very soon.

DAN AYKROYDS

223 – Dan Hannebury

182 – Matt Boyd

178 – Paddy Cripps

171 – Gary Ablett Jnr

170 – Kade Simpson

167 – Luke Parker

161 – Heath Shaw

148 – Tom Lynch

145 – Adam Treloar

133 – Max Gawn

RUCKING HELL

Hell was indeed felt in all its wrath by owners of Todd Goldstein, who was a late out for North after leaving training on crutches. The official word is he’d rolled his ankle, and “if the game [had been] tomorrow he would have played.” He’s been named this week, alongside his stablemate Braydon Pruess.

Those with Brayden Pruess or Jarrod Witts on the bench would have been more than pleased to get those scores onfield, however.

For those that played, it was a very, very good weekend for most our rucks – with the only exception being Aaron Sandilands, who was parked at full back for parts of Freo’s shellacking this weekend.

Brodie Grundy had a beautiful 135, The Nank had 124 to continue his massive start to the year, and he is now a must-have for those that skipped the train. Max Gawn continues to be the #1 ruck in the competition after his 111, Stef Martin played far better than his 126 indicates – he tore Shaun McKernan apart.

Even old mates Jarrod Witts and Brayden Pruess managed to ton up! Whaddaya know!

Only downside is Tom Hickey again being unable to crack the ton, against a West Coast outfit featuring Nathan Vardy and Jono Giles as their ruckmen. He’s the only ruckman I’d considering correcting, especially if Billy Longer is named tonight, and if you’ve missed Sandilands or Nankervis, 100% make the leap. Instead of going to Witts, I’d look to sideways to Martin or Grundy.

CAPTAIN McCAPTAINFACE

Come one, come all to the one stop shop for Flogging Dead Memes Well Beyond Their Use-By Date.

This week makes captaincy a little bit harder, with hapless a Freo playing on Saturday night instead of Sunday, meaning most will have to use their VC before Luke Strndica gets locked out. SO – what have we got on offer before then?

Friday night sees us again have an early choice of Collingwood options, and with Scott Pendlebury in scintillating form, he’s the perfect VC option for the round – if you’ve got him. If you were like me, and instead selected Adam Treloar that makes things tougher. Treloar has been in good form, but his disposal efficiency is letting him down. He averages 108 against the Swans, with a top score at the SSG of 125, which isn’t quite enough for my liking.

Josh P Kennedy and Buddy Franklin are also in the frame – with JPK averaging 110 at the SSG and Franklin in dangerous form. I’m going JPK, but only because I didn’t start Franklin.

Saturday arvo gives us few options – GWS and North Melbourne aren’t providing incredibly consistent Supercoach outputs, and I find both of them incredibly difficult to read. Toby Greene has started well, with 138 against a thoroughly useless Gold Coast, and he could once again tear them to shreds. I’d avoid Shaun Higgins as a VC option simply because Jock made me write a contract in my own blood saying I could pick him ONLY if I never made him captain.

Dusty Martin and Josh J Kennedy are both very good VC options if you rate your trigger fingers – Martin in particular has started like a house on fire, and would be an excellent VC option. Kennedy coming up against Alex Rance may have a tougher week, but if the delivery is good he may fire. The Nank is also a very sneaky option coming up against Jono Giles.

Then we get to the heavy stuff – Geelong and Melbourne come up against each other, which would make Max Gawn a great option if Paddy Dangerfield and Joel Selwood weren’t lining up opposite him. Dangerfield only averages 85 against the Dees, and 96 at Etihad, so I’m considering Selwood, who averages 115 against Melbourne.

If you really, really rate your trigger fingers, you can VC the Melbourne vs Geelong game and try and hit Nat Fyfe up for the captaincy this week, or flick across the the Showdown and try Rory Sloane out for size at his favourite hunting ground, the Adelaide Oval.

If Sunday if more your jam, Tom Rockliff has started the season extraordinarily well, my hero Zach Merrett could tear the Blues apart at the ‘G and Tom Mitchell is a valid backup option.

Now, after my opening tirade, I’m off to put money in the swear jar before Higgo’s mum removes my cookie privileges.

May the supercoach gods smile upon you this weekend – best of luck, community! See you in the comments.

Twitter : @PatchToTheMax

 

 


543 Comments

Nick · 07/04/2017 at 11:00

so are you saying you wld have Vc'ed buddy if you had him? I have pendles too….?? Really torn on who l should pick…

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 11:25

    I'm a sucker for players going big in milestone games. Buddy VC tonight

      undypuncher · 07/04/2017 at 12:47

      Same as

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 12:31

    I am going with Buddy – but then again both my vc selections to date have failed….

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:40

    I would indeed be VCing Buddy if I had him, even if I had Pendles.

    It could backfire horribly, but that's what the VC selection is for in my view!

    Warren · 07/04/2017 at 18:11

    Hanners vc ????

Simmo6 · 07/04/2017 at 11:10

Backing Parker to explode tonight.. VC..

Considering a sandi > WHE via nano to ruck trade..

Thoughts?

    Simmo6 · 07/04/2017 at 11:12

    Nank**

    reff · 07/04/2017 at 13:05

    sandi rucking solo this weekend

      Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:41

      Would probably hold onto Sandi if you can, Simmo. Parker VC is gutsy but I like it!

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:26

    Not a fan of the sandy trade. Hold onto him. Freo need him firing every week. He won't get rested and is one of the best ruckmen in the comp when he is 100%.

BoDerek · 07/04/2017 at 11:12

I just love the Panic Room!

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 15:01

    So do i

      BoDerek · 07/04/2017 at 15:53

      Sorry you're too late this time and besides you're not BoDerek so already pinched all the likes. Better luck next time bud!

    Youngy · 07/04/2017 at 18:19

    Every week Derek without fail. Haha

LoganJOsh · 07/04/2017 at 11:13

so i went hibberd -otten
and sympkin – WHE

would love housten but cant fit him in

anyone else have the balls to hang onto saint nick like yours truly?

    Seeker · 07/04/2017 at 12:15

    Wish I had held Roo now, but hindsight is 20/20

    undypuncher · 07/04/2017 at 12:51

    Im not dissapointed I traded him I feel im structured better fir cash flow now

      LoganJosh · 07/04/2017 at 13:13

      an article came out only 4 days after he was injured saying he could only be 1-2 weeks. he'll be a top 6 forward for sure!

      Rick Grimes · 07/04/2017 at 13:19

      Roo not guaranteed to start. Might also be managed for minutes. I'm glad to be rid (watch him score massive this weekend).

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:43

    Like those moves, Logan! I moved Roo on, and would make the same decision again with the information we were given, so I'm not annoyed over it! However, he'll be a beautiful POD for you!

TRIGGER HAPPY · 07/04/2017 at 11:13

Great work patch
Or
Is that great patch work?
Seemed to stitched up all and sundry.
Very comprehensive.
100% agree. Make your trades if they improve your team but not to its detriment.
Don't have nank but got other priorities so will have to let him go.

LoganJosh · 07/04/2017 at 11:21

no otten in the Eddie Murphy's?

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:44

    He's in now, not sure how I missed him! -82

      JEL · 07/04/2017 at 19:13

      No love for the Smurph? BE is -19

hedski · 07/04/2017 at 11:23

I'm panicked Patch.
Not sure I need to trade this week, I've never had 30 trades left after round 3, seems wrong cos I like to bang bang.
Maybe I should sideways Pickett to Houston if he's not named tonight to get a bit of that sweet sweet rush that comes with hitting the big T button.
Hold me and tell me alls well Patch!!

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:47

    All is well, Hedski, all is well. Shush now, it'll all be fine. Your restraint is admirable, and you've done well. There is no shame in holding trades, for you can always go BANG BANG later in the year. So there, Hedski, all is fine. All is well, my child.

    That said, Pickett-Houston isn't a terrible move if you were that way inclined, but I'd probably wait for Heywood or another rookie to bob up instead of Houston

      hedski · 07/04/2017 at 16:24

      Cheers Patch, so soothing.

Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 11:24

Community, I have Cameron (Syd) as my R3, less assured to get a game anytime soon now that Naismith is named for tonight. Considering trading him for Pruess to get some cash generation in the next few weeks – good idea or not?

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 12:13

    I'd concentrate on other rooks, Dutch. You want them consistently earning up until the byes. By round 5 Preuss will no longer be making large coin when that 111 is out of his system (unless Goldy sits out again). JS is a concern also, was originally out in round 2

    Raging Bulls · 07/04/2017 at 13:36

    Contrary to Kev, I would definitely do that if Sinclair plays before Cameron he has HUGE issues, coz I am Swans fan, and Sinclair is the biggest DUD we have ever drafted BAR NONE! Hopeless footballer. And they reckon Tippet might only miss 1. Preuss is a great option. Will end up being $300-$400k at some point and handy R3 at times when Goldy has rooted another teammates missus or less liklier than that hurt himself again (possibly fleeing the scene of tapping a teammates Bird)… Do it if you have all the other rooks locked away! 🙂

      Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 15:43

      Thanks Kev and RB for your thoughts.
      The other implication of doing this trade is that I will loose my ruck-fwd swing with Nank who I have at F4 (have Gawn / Sandi at R1/2). Pruess will be traded out again before or during byes as he will have fattened up by then. A slightly higher risk profile for the next few weeks, but its not bothering me too much – should it?

        Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:48

        I would, Dutchy, as long as everything else about your side was nicely set

          Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 18:38

          Thanks. Have most of the key rooks and happy with all my premiums / mids. Key missing rooks are WHE, Houston and Pruess. Passing on WHE, will stuff up my structures to get him in. Sitting on Smith and Hibberd, will move them on the next 1-2 weeks if new bubble boys appear. Will decide on Houston tomorrow, will maybe come in for Sympkin. Which leaves Cameron >> Pruess as tonight's decision. No trades to date, so comfortable on that front.

Micky_B · 07/04/2017 at 11:24

Cripps to oliver and smith to marchbank
Or hold cripps and leave smith on the bench?

Will oliver average over 100 from here on in?

    BradK · 07/04/2017 at 11:43

    Hold mate. As per above, dont downgrade premos

    John James · 07/04/2017 at 19:33

    I like that move,Oliver should score around the same as Cripps and Marchbank is a must for injured Smith,get it done.

Stav · 07/04/2017 at 11:24

Hey guys, is having 7 from one game too much? 6 are premos and one rookie?

    LoganJosh · 07/04/2017 at 11:32

    no – but you better hope they dont both have the bye on the same week

      Stav · 07/04/2017 at 11:36

      It's sydney v collingwood tonight (JPK, Lloyd, Buddy, WHE, Pendles, Treloar, Adams) and they don't share the same bye

        LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 14:20

        fine by me – probably wouldntve gone both pendles and treloar tho.

        Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:48

        You'll be fine, Stav! Means you'll have a monster score at 11pm tonight!

    Danners · 07/04/2017 at 18:56

    Doesn't matter, as long as they're getting points for now

BrownlowBoy · 07/04/2017 at 11:26

Smith (Defence) to Newman this week?

    undypuncher · 07/04/2017 at 12:54

    Whats the rush have another look at newman this week and make sure his right

      Rick Grimes · 07/04/2017 at 13:20

      Yea, no rush. If you can loophole, so it. If not, just monitor the situation. The likes of Otten, Hampton, Stewart all going to provide about the same return, if not more.

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 15:44

    Wait until next week unless you are facing a donut

Finnius · 07/04/2017 at 11:30

I am going the VC on Buddy this week. Could go absolutely huge in his 250th.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 07/04/2017 at 11:30

I'm going to post this as maybe the community maybe interested in the match ups in
Trigs Happy Place this week.
If not hit me up in the comments and I wont post again on this league.
But if there is enough interest from the community I can post the head to head battles every week and the results on Monday.

The majority of regular community members face off in this league.

Week 3 Matchup: (Head to head battle)

LEK v SC Addict
Liam v Don't blush baby
INPieman v Barron Von Crow (BVC)
TRIGGER HAPPY v Kev
Billy v Rick Grimes
Gator v Moustachio
Neil demons delights v Jock
Shake & Bake v Tophawk
Patch v Swans2012

As you can see no easy games. Gotta bring your best every week. Should be some cracking battles.
Good luck to all.

    Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 12:58

    Do it. Go Swans2012!

    LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 14:24

    jealous im not in the league – happy to see it tho!

    Pablo · 07/04/2017 at 15:12

    I'm interested.

    Kim · 07/04/2017 at 15:49

    Next season what do you have to do to get into this league? I am already in top 4,000 and should hopefully finish top 500-1,000 if not higher. Regular poster also.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 07/04/2017 at 15:55

      Sorry only so many spots.
      But make sure you ate part of the JR Group. 🙂

        gator59 · 07/04/2017 at 16:28

        Great inititiive Trigger.. would love to see this every week.. Well done mate

        LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 16:41

        whats the JR group? is it this here you mean?

    Liam · 07/04/2017 at 21:09

    Gonna be a good battle all season. Bring it on Don't blush baby.

    Swans2012 · 08/04/2017 at 00:23

    Love your work trig, would love to get a win on the board early!

    Big fact hunt · 08/04/2017 at 07:21

    Awesome trigger but if you do this we need a post on who won and what they scored great job

Neverweaken · 07/04/2017 at 11:32

Is WHE a must have? Or go straight from Caddy to Buddy? Will be trading out Caddy as a corrective anyway

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:51

    I would go to Buddy instead of WHE if ditching Caddy, mate!

    POTS · 07/04/2017 at 16:36

    I'm not sure WHE will continue to pump out scores like he has esp with the likes of Elliot and Wells to return. Go straight to Buddy and save a trade that would have been used from WHE to a premo later on.

    Youngy · 07/04/2017 at 18:21

    Agree bring in Buddy

    BockChoy · 07/04/2017 at 22:31

    I suggest using Caddy as a stepping stone to an ultra premo.

Cliffy · 07/04/2017 at 11:35

Nice one again Patch!

Got another C option that could be relevant this week, perhaps Beams against the Saints?

144 he had against them last time he played them, and has a last 3 avg of 138 against them.

    Nick · 07/04/2017 at 12:00

    im thibnking either VC buddy to danger or danger into beams

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:52

    Nice one, Cliffy! Could be a decent option – personally I want to see him string a few 120+ scores together before I'll toy with him as a VC option, but after last week it seems he's got his groove back!

    POTS · 07/04/2017 at 16:38

    VC Danger into Beams. If Danger scores well just loophole it.

Jack · 07/04/2017 at 11:39

Rough head out Nank in worth it??

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 12:16

    Yes

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:52

    Lock it in, Jack!

    Danners · 07/04/2017 at 18:58

    Might want to read the article

Steve · 07/04/2017 at 11:40

Is otten worth starting on the field this week? or should i play stewart?

    jwill2bong · 07/04/2017 at 11:48

    Otten, Jenkins not playing, Otten will do a bit of ruck work and should outscore Stewart.

    Sully321 · 07/04/2017 at 12:19

    start otten

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 12:39

    Often

    Youngy · 07/04/2017 at 18:22

    Ye Otten over Stewart

Cliffy · 07/04/2017 at 11:46

Another thing I wanted to ask was if I was that desperate to get WHE in this week, would it be more feasible to use just the 1 trade and side-swap Roughy or Taranto to WHE rather than having to use 2 trades to get it done?

    Cliffy · 07/04/2017 at 11:47

    Additionally I only have $51,700 left in the bank.

      Cliffy · 07/04/2017 at 11:48

      Or I could potentially go a Roughy/Taranto – WHE, and for the 2nd trade go Pickett – Hannan.

    Neverweaken · 07/04/2017 at 12:09

    Go the one trade. And don't worry about Hannan. Other rookies coming up soon

INPieman · 07/04/2017 at 11:59

It's been wonderful Gary. But affer your sulk last night your out. Not coming out to speak until someone coughed up a cheque is wrong Gary

    BradK · 07/04/2017 at 12:29

    Dam you Ablett. He's been the greatest player for a long time, but he's screwed over both cats and suns. I've been watching his games closely and one of his current problems is his teammates are ignoring him/not giving him the ball. As an ablett owner, this sucks, but is dam understandable considering the flog abletts been. He's playing selfishly and looking for the cheap possies, but most of all he looks like an old man and is sadly no longer the great player I once admired. Adios Garry Jnr

      BrownlowBoy · 07/04/2017 at 12:59

      Don't think you can call him selfish or a flog. This bloke carried the Suns the whole time he has been there, where would they be without him. You cannot expect a 33 year old coming off serious injuries to just waltz in and dominated like he did in his prime years. It's just not going to happen. Gary is one of the best players to ever step on a football field, and it's a disgrace what the media are doing, was just about BOG in round 1 and I'm sure many players look disinterested when their team is getting pummelled by 100+ points verse the premiership favourites.

        Beady Eye · 07/04/2017 at 13:56

        You can carry a team and still be a selfish flog.

          BrownlowBoy · 07/04/2017 at 14:12

          What makes him selfish? Don't say leaving Geelong was selfish either because footy is his job. Leaving Geelong sets him up for life, you can't tell me you wouldn't leave your current job to go somewhere else if they offered you a lot more money than you were currently on.

            INPieman · 07/04/2017 at 14:37

            Only speaking to the media after the cheque cleared is selfish

              BrownlowBoy · 07/04/2017 at 14:48

              Can see where you are coming from – but family issues might have not have arisen until after the contract who knows. Just disappointing how he is getting belted pillar to post by the media. Not the first player to ask to go home. We all know how Cam McCarthy's situation unfolded.

                INPieman · 07/04/2017 at 15:31

                Perhaps he has some personal issues. And fair enough. Heard a couple of times his wife has already packed up & left. But he's got enough money to be selling stories. Might be on the front page of the woman's day next week

                  BrownlowBoy · 07/04/2017 at 15:52

                  Yes I have heard about his wife, also I believe his brother is not in good shape at the moment.

Jack · 07/04/2017 at 11:59

Does everyone believe in the Ollie Wines hype? Is this the breakout year? Do we trust his consistency? Cheers community

    LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 14:28

    the next R.Sloane id say. consistantly around 100 ish

    Danners · 07/04/2017 at 18:59

    Port have won both games so wait a bit before getting him

Sam · 07/04/2017 at 12:11

Nice work Patch

Keen to get thoughts on trading Tom Lynch (SUNS) to Greene?

    Sully321 · 07/04/2017 at 12:20

    I'd be holding Lynch.

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 13:04

    Lynch also had a shocker against the Giants in Rd8 last season with a 42 so this comes with the territory with KPPs unfortunately.

    So you should really keep the faith as he could reward his keepers with a good score against the Hawks. Not sure I'd make the move to get on Greene who can be very up and down himself as we all saw last season. Would probably go a Nank or Higgins type and bank some coin or even down to a WHE and only commit to another premo forward when the picture is a little clearer on who exactly will be the top 6 forwards this season.

    But ultimately if you have serious doubts about Lynch being a top forward and really like Greene this season then it's your team so make that call. It's just if you side swap too many underperforming premos early in the season you will quickly run out of trades more than likely for little return,

      Sam · 07/04/2017 at 14:03

      Thanks SCaddict, wise words. I like lynch and think he'll be getting a coleman soon. My concern is the supply…not sure what happened to the SUNS from the JLT series but hoping they reappear soon.

      Early days so think i'll hold the trade

      Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:53

      Couldn't have said it better myself, Addict. Hold for mine.

    Pablo · 07/04/2017 at 15:51

    I am also holding Lynch. Part of the challenge with a KPF.

Sully321 · 07/04/2017 at 12:19

Hey community,
I'm thinking of upgrading Roughead to either Brodie Grundy or Taylor Adams. I'm not sure who to go out of the two. If i bring in Grundy it means i'll continue to have a thin defence playing Marchbank at D3 and have only two on field rookies in my fwd line.
If i decide to bring in Adams it would mean I'd have 3 on field rookies in both my fwd and back lines.
I feel like Grundy will be a top 2 ruck this year and I won't get a better opportunity to bring him in than this week. Whereas there will be a lot of opportunities this year for me to bring in Adams.
I really would appreciate your thoughts community.
Thanks in Advance

    undypuncher · 07/04/2017 at 13:04

    Id strengthen up backline but id go a more durable option than adams … laird shaw docherty simmo

      Sully321 · 07/04/2017 at 14:24

      I already have laird and Doc. Shaw and simpson are going to drop in price and i feel they will be easier to get at a later date, so I feel Adams, Grundy and possibly JJ are my only options

BradK · 07/04/2017 at 12:19

Do people think that Bont cant score as well (or better) than Pendles?

    Sully321 · 07/04/2017 at 12:22

    I'd think Bont is more capable of getting big scores. But you can almost guarantee Pendles will score at least 110 every week

    Danners · 07/04/2017 at 19:00

    Not this year, maybe in a couple years time

Tommo · 07/04/2017 at 12:24

Hey lads, unsure who to start rookie wise in my mid and fwd. For M8 I need to choose between Parfitt, Petrevski-Seton and Barrett. F6 is between Houston, Eddy and Pickett. Any help will be much appreciated

    undypuncher · 07/04/2017 at 12:45

    Barret and housten

    TBone · 07/04/2017 at 13:16

    Barrett named on emergencies so wouldn't go him… Maybe PS and Houston

      Dildor · 07/04/2017 at 13:22

      Extended bench, could still play

Alex · 07/04/2017 at 12:25

Who's more of a priority Marchbank or Hannan

    undypuncher · 07/04/2017 at 12:46

    Marchbank

    BradK · 07/04/2017 at 12:48

    Marchbank by a mile. People will probably soon regret they have hannan

      Steeeve · 07/04/2017 at 17:03

      Except there are HEAPS of promising rookies coming up to swap him to if he doesn't have another great game in the next fortnight.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:25

    Marchbank, easily

Jack · 07/04/2017 at 12:32

Who do I field ?
Def-Otten or Stewart

Fwd-Houston or butler
Cheers guys

    BradK · 07/04/2017 at 12:47

    Otten to field. Would consider hampton over them both though if you have him. He's named as a follower.

Ozz · 07/04/2017 at 12:32

Butler or Taranto to start?

    BradK · 07/04/2017 at 12:46

    Taranto

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 15:46

    Taranto

Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 12:36

Not sure I would use a trade on Pickett to Houston, although I can see the attraction of quicker cash generation. I am determined to only trade on non- playing rooks, even if that means foregoing WHE. Sympkin the key target in my sights at present.

Jimmy · 07/04/2017 at 12:37

Can someone please tell me how much Heath Shaw is projected to drop in price

    CJay · 07/04/2017 at 12:48

    -24.4K Jimmy with a BE 161

      Jimmy · 07/04/2017 at 13:05

      Thanks CJay

    Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 13:05

    -24k into -31k on a projected score of 108 this week.

    LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 14:41

    if you have him hold.
    if you dont wait 2 weeks then get him!

    Steeeve · 07/04/2017 at 14:45

    It's irrelevant because he is a keeper

      Derek · 07/04/2017 at 16:32

      agree. i think he was looking at getting him in

        Steeeve · 07/04/2017 at 17:04

        In that case it is highly relevant. Proceed all haha

undyouncher · 07/04/2017 at 12:44

So I have hibberd but not otten not going otten cos I dont like his js gonna hold hibberd and look at othrrs next week yay or nay? I have hanners swapping him for merret yay or nay ? and my mid rookies are pepper barret parfit picket and bowes so swapping bowes for aisnworth yay or nay ?

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:55

    -Not a bad call, Newman looked Heath Shaw like when drafted according to those in the know
    -I love my boy Zachy Merrett, can't go wrong with him
    -Not sold on Ainsworth, would look to hold Bowes for another week or so, unless you can pick up a forward rookie for him

Alex · 07/04/2017 at 12:48

Sandi to WHE via Nank and then J Smith up to Marchbank leaving me with 35K in the bank thoughts community?!?

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 14:54

    Sandi rucking solo this week. Will score huge

    Nado · 07/04/2017 at 15:03

    Considering the Sandi to WHE trade myself. I am still undecided, the main thing to consider is how much extra cash will WHE make. Sandi himself has a breakeven of 0 and likely to score higher than WHE in the long-run.

    However, in your case if this trade helps you net Marchbank who is almost a must have then I say go for it.

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 15:47

    Not recommended

mark · 07/04/2017 at 12:50

Hey guys should i trade roughy to WHE and upgrade smith to marchbank or just trade taranto to WHE and save my other trade.
I havent used a trade yet

    LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 14:43

    dont really like either of those. roughy will get better as the season goes. and taranto will make cash also.
    but WHE is a must have so up to you.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:55

    I like those moves, Mark

    RickeyRat · 07/04/2017 at 17:14

    Ii actually went Hall to oliver then upgraded Parfitt to WHE reckon forwards are average this season Roughie could end up top 6 or 8 by seasons end,now cashed up to bring in Greene next two weeks already have Dalhaus and Macrae who both will be keepers IMO

Zoomer · 07/04/2017 at 13:08

Hi Patch. Do you think I should trade Mills. Thinking of Mills to Newman and Jy Simpkin to either the Bont or Mark Murphy. What do you think???

    LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 14:43

    wait on newman.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 15:57

    Agree with Logan, would wait on Newman. However, trading Mills out isn't a bad option, and if the upside is Mills to Bont, I would lock the trade in for mine.

    Yes, do it.

Ben · 07/04/2017 at 13:10

Who should I field, Otten or McGrath?
Thanks

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 07/04/2017 at 14:21

    Can u loop as Dons play Sunday.

      Ben · 07/04/2017 at 18:46

      I'm new here so I don't really understand what you mean by loop.
      Would you be able to explain for me?
      Thanks

    LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 14:54

    otten – no jenkins

Rick Grimes · 07/04/2017 at 13:17

If Eddie Murphy is the price risers and Dan Aykroyd is the price droppers, who is Jamie lee Curtis? You know what I'm talking about…(well, only if you've seen the movie).

    Babo · 07/04/2017 at 18:04

    I get ya mate.

Seeker · 07/04/2017 at 13:22

I have Simpkin who is out (quad…yeah sure) anyway I'm in three minds
1) Simpkin to WHE (1 trade & $81k in bank)
A little concerned that this is a bit of a 'shoal move' cos everyone trying to bring WHE in

2) Simpkin to Houston (1trade & $175k in bank)
Still worried about Houston's JS but he's a cheaper buy in

3) do nothing Simpkin will play again sooner or later & will slowly appreciate cash value

I also have Joel Smith & Hibberd doing nothing on my Def bench, but Smith will be traded to another bubble boy next week

I'd love some feedback

    Daniel · 07/04/2017 at 13:59

    I would be hesitant to wait because it means you could potentially have three bench players out next week.
    If there are some injuries or other issues, you may not have enough trades to do what you have to do.
    If you don't think Simpkin can get the job done cash-wise, WHE is not a bad bet (think he's around 33% ownership at the moment).

    Choppers · 07/04/2017 at 14:01

    I have the same situation. I went Simpkin to W H-E and will keep Smith and Hibberd at D7,8. Likely bubble boys coming up next week and the week after in Newman then maybe Berry(D/M) Long(D/F)

      Trader · 07/04/2017 at 14:11

      Smith is out for 12 weeks

        Choppers · 07/04/2017 at 14:23

        Thanks Trader. No probs. I understand that., but I also had another trade that I needed to do this round so will probably trade out Smith next week, especially if Newman goes alright tonight and keeps his spot next week.

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 15:50

    Facing the same dilemma except don't have the cash for WHE. Am considering leaning towards option 2 over option 3, but will see how the Sydney rooks go tonight first.

Andy · 07/04/2017 at 13:31

What is Zach Tuohy's price projected to change to after this round??

    Beady Eye · 07/04/2017 at 13:48

    Up $3.8K if he scores his average.

Neverweaken · 07/04/2017 at 13:47

Who to put on the field out of Houston or Butler?
Who on field out of Pepper pig or swallow?

Or 2 out of Houston, Butler, WHE

    Daniel · 07/04/2017 at 14:01

    The way SPP has looked his first two games, I get the feeling he'll love playing in showdowns. I'd back him in over Swallow but barely.

    I'd probably take WHE and Houston (it's a small sample size but his scores so far have been more consistent).

TBone · 07/04/2017 at 13:49

Is Roughy to Nank sensible? or just a waste of a trade?

    Daniel · 07/04/2017 at 14:04

    Depends on if you have any other issues.

    Roughy will come good, he is just going to take a few games to get back to his best.
    Nank could be top 3-4 ruck by year's end or top 6-8 forward if his form continues. For 366k, that's a good deal and could save you a trade later on. If his form doesn't continue for the season, he'll still have (likely) made more money than Roughy by the byes.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:00

    I like it, TBone. Nank essential

Crabb · 07/04/2017 at 13:50

Legit my entire midfield is playing saturday night or later…. Nank it is then.

What's your view on Gaz Patch and others? Trade or hold…

    Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 15:10

    Lesson learnt. Buy a premo pie each season for neigh on guaranteed Friday night VC action. I forgot to do it and corrected with Roo to pendles trade last week. Oh well….

      Captain Risky · 07/04/2017 at 19:31

      Looking ahead I would have gone Bontempelli for VC… The bulldogs have been rewarded for a good season.

        Randomcliche2 · 08/04/2017 at 01:16

        Very true……….in fact my rnd 4 isn't looking so flash with freo so early on….hmmmm…..

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:02

    I… I think I would hold. I haven't seen any Gold Coast games, and I just couldn't see him getting back to his best this year during the preseason, but Murphy's Law says if you trade him he'll average 160 for the rest of the year. I think. I'm not sure.

      Crabb · 07/04/2017 at 19:06

      Bloody hell patch no help you are – the key to being an expert is blindingly blurting an opinion one way or another and hoping everyone forgets by next week. You know this ol' boy.

Stupid Coach · 07/04/2017 at 13:59

At the start of the week, I was thinking of trading Roo to Buddy. Now he is named to play (still think he will be a late withdrawal). Should I:

1. Stick with him and hope he plays and just trade Smith to Otten (also have Laird and Hampton).
2. Trade him to Buddy or Higgins and Smith to Otten or McGrath.
3. Do nothing – trade Smith to Newman or another rookie defender next week when they are on the bubble.

Any thoughts and feedback much appreciated?

    Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 15:12

    If you have nank, then 1.

Rivo · 07/04/2017 at 14:05

Last minute doubts have crept in….

Do I really need to trade out J.Smith to get Butler in through DPP? I can rationalize the cash increase for Butler but already have Houston, Eddy, plus mid swings in Pickett & Parfitt. Do I pull the trigger or Hold? Should have enough field cover without trading. Any thoughts?

    Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 15:18

    Target acquired, breathe in, breathe out, squeeze BANG!

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:03

    I'd do it, Rivo. Butler one of the best rookie opportunities we've got this year

      Rivo · 08/04/2017 at 07:56

      Thanks Patch. Trade done.

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 16:30

    i would do it.

Danny · 07/04/2017 at 14:13

Trade Zach Tuohy or hold??

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 14:26

    Absolutely hold mate. He is averaging 90 which is more than either Shaw or Simmo at this point. He's still adjusting to a new side but is doing his job so far with a BE of just 74.

    If he can't maintain a 90 plus average from here you could then look at switching him for a Shaw or Simmo that may have bottomed out in price in the next 2-3 weeks perhaps for just $50K or so which would still be a win. But I think you would be crazy to trade him right now whilst he's holding his price and even making some coin.

      Danny · 07/04/2017 at 14:36

      Cheers Mate

Paul R · 07/04/2017 at 14:16

Contemplating either C.Mills to Otten and building warchest/cash gen or alternatively GAJ to Bont as corrective trade. Was leaning to giving GAJ one more week but last 24 hours leaving me more unsure- any thoughts/alternatives? Have majority of other rooks in place…

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 14:34

    I'd do Mills to Otten myself and give Gazza one last gasp before you bury him for good. Whilst Mills should score better than he has it's very unlikely he'll finish as a top 10 defender keeper. So you may as well take the cash grab on Otten now, who could even match Millsy's scoring in the short term, or at least come close. The only slight concern with Otts is his JS with Jenkins to return. But if he keeps performing well and the Crows keep winning he'll make it very hard for his coach to drop him.

    Or alternatively you could give Mills another week too just in case he scores well against the Pies tonight and if he doesn't then move him on for Newman next week.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 07/04/2017 at 14:18

Captain my Captain.

The old one two for me this week:
Danger into Fyfe.
Just gotta have the old trigger finger ready Sat night.

Who's thinking the same or maybe a VC tonight as PATCH pointed out above.

    Touk tuk · 07/04/2017 at 14:35

    Vc on danger. C on fyfe or beams… not decided yet

    Nick · 07/04/2017 at 14:58

    Buddy or Danger into beams

    Sam · 07/04/2017 at 18:07

    Danger into Titchell? Can see Mitchell getting a big score against the suns…thoughts?

TDEV · 07/04/2017 at 14:26

Anyone else's eyes lighting up at the cash WHE can make for your team. I am really tempted to downgrade Roughie. But I think I will manage to resist, he should improve before bye rounds and I can't see WHE keeping up his form. The hawks are also up against the suns, so the ball should spend a lot of time in their fwd line.

    Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 15:22

    Well done. You and me both. I'm splashing on Marchy though. WHE has some good games onto his byes though.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:04

    I have downgraded Roughie. WHE doesn't really need to hold his form, he just needs to average 75/80 to the byes. He'll drop some pant stains but will make us a lot of cashola

Alex · 07/04/2017 at 14:30

McGrath or Marchbank?

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 15:37

    Marchbank

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:04

    Marchbank

Holty · 07/04/2017 at 14:34

Bugger it, im holding Ablett. Selected him for a reason.

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 14:46

    It's a tough call Holty. One I certainly don't envy you and his other tormented owners making.

    Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 15:23

    How is Murphy getting in your team?

Can it · 07/04/2017 at 14:36

Why not downgrade an average defensive premo to get a midfield premo?

    Can it · 07/04/2017 at 14:55

    Like say a Simpson, to get a buddy?

      Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:06

      Simpson will come very good by year's end, Can It. Be very cautious about trading them out, but if you want to get one on a different line there's nothing against that

    Sana · 07/04/2017 at 16:11

    Over the year you'll most likely find Simpson to be a much more reliable premo than old mate Buddy. Their past tells us that much, but if ya gut tells you otherwise…!

Jimbo · 07/04/2017 at 14:37

Omeara to WHE via DPP
Smith to Marchbank

Thoughts everyone please???
Went one extra in the midfield so this will mean SPP moves to M8.

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 15:39

    Hold. O'Meara will make enough coin to be worthwhile pick

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:06

    Can you go Rough to WHE? Think Jaeger will come good eventually, and I'd be loathe to trade out a guy that picks up 38 touches in his second game of footy for 2 years

B-SC · 07/04/2017 at 14:42

Roughy to WHE
OR
Brodie to WHE

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 15:37

    Brodie

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:07

    Brodie-WHE

      B-SC · 07/04/2017 at 17:43

      Thanks

Trade Dilemma · 07/04/2017 at 14:42

Trade Florent for Butler or conserve a trade? Butler is better in the short term but a trade is a trade

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 14:54

    I probably wouldn't. Whilst I think Butler will be a nice rookie for those who started him I'm not sure he's worth getting rid of rookie that still has a pulse like Florent. It only takes one decent game for a rookie to start making coin and maybe it will be tonight against the Pies??

    If he doesn't well there appears to be no shortage of promising rookies to switch him to over the next fortnight.

      Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 15:52

      Agree with sca

Archer · 07/04/2017 at 15:11

Buddy into Danger or Danger into Titch for captaincy this week?

    FCAbel · 07/04/2017 at 15:47

    Danger into titchell for me. Both good options though

    iLoveNMFC · 07/04/2017 at 15:52

    Buddy into Danger.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:07

    Buddy into Danger

Tommy · 07/04/2017 at 15:27

Want to get in either WHE or Houston but at same time needing to upgrade Mills.
Options are:
GHS to WHE (hold 1 trade)
GHS to Houston, Mills to Lloyd
GHS to WHE, Mills to Salem
GHS to Houston, Eddy to WHE (try and upgrade Mills Ned to week)

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 16:28

    i'm confused. who is GHS

      Tommy · 07/04/2017 at 16:43

      George Horlin-Smith

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:27

    I like option 4, Tommy

Adsy · 07/04/2017 at 15:28

Steele to Nank this week? Already going J.Smith to Butler via DPP and holding Hibberd to next week. (All based on selection of course)

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:23

    Nope. Steele will come good. Too sidewaysy for me. THey will both end up averaging about the same.

HII · 07/04/2017 at 15:29

SIMPSON TO MARCHBANK
PICKET TO BUDDY

OR

SIMPSON TO MARCHBANK
PICKET TO 400-500k mid

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 15:31

    Wouldn't drop Simmo.

    If you're sold on the idea, go Buddy

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 16:27

    stop it

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:23

    Don't trade Simpson. One bad week.

Jager Bombs · 07/04/2017 at 15:36

Ryder or Roughy – Need to get Nank in and undecided who for. Who do the community think will avg better out Ryder or Rough.

Thoughts.

Micky_B · 07/04/2017 at 15:37

Roughy to WHE and smith to marchbank?

Hal · 07/04/2017 at 15:47

Anyone trading outside of long-term injuries really doesn't have a clue about SC and doesn't regularly finish in top 1-2%…DO NOT TRADE! even how tempting it may be

    Tom · 07/04/2017 at 15:48

    Spot on Hal…crazy to start trading this early…bet you people will trade and who they trade out scores 120 this week, hahaha

      Hal · 07/04/2017 at 16:37

      exactly!

    TBone · 07/04/2017 at 15:58

    But surely if you have 2 doughnut rookies on the bench, trading to another one makes sense though?

      Hal · 07/04/2017 at 16:05

      No, would hold T-Bone back players named to play.

        TBone · 07/04/2017 at 16:14

        gotcha. so even though hibberd and vickers willis sitting on def bench getting 0s, dont trade in otten?

          Hal · 07/04/2017 at 16:33

          Yep, no guarantee he will keep up his scoring

            Winter · 07/04/2017 at 16:55

            TBone Otten is playing where as your 2 aren't. Get him in

          Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:21

          I'm gonna advise you against that T. If you are serious about the whole Supercoach gig then you will make the trade. We need dosh and dosh quickly – even if we are burning trades early one. The warning is against people who trade premo's sideways, because we are strapped for trades as it is.

    BlakeyP · 07/04/2017 at 16:23

    You do realise that the last 2 winners of SC traded in the first 2 rounds to get the best rookies for money Gen or correction trades.
    So silly comment really

      Derek · 07/04/2017 at 16:25

      that is a no brainer. Rule number 1, get the right rookies.

        Hal · 07/04/2017 at 16:34

        no guarantee on Rookies Derek

          Derek · 07/04/2017 at 16:40

          after two weeks you should know who the good ones are.

          a good rookie is one who is playing!

      Hal · 07/04/2017 at 16:34

      Horses for courses BlakeyP – means nothing the prior winners didn't trade for first 7 weeks…everyone has their own strategy, but would be madness to trade just to get a rookie in…no guarantee they will keep up scores of first two weeks…

        Winter · 07/04/2017 at 16:56

        You trade rookies in for cash generation not points you goose

          BradK · 07/04/2017 at 17:03

          I finished top 20 last year and made 3 trades in the first 2 weeks. One of these was Barlow to Merrett or something similar, and one was another seemily sideways trade. I know alot about supercoach, and always finish well.

          This year I've sideways traded ablett to pendles, and corrected a rookie mistake. Ranked 7000ish which isnt great, but no, ur wrong with this theory

        BlakeyP · 07/04/2017 at 17:03

        I agree with you that there are different ways to skin a cat. But you are here say that it is madness to trade in R2 and that if you do you have no clue about SC. Those comment are just out right wrong, It is a proven strategy by many past winners. So are you saying those winners had no clue?
        I not saying go do silly trades like Hampton to Otten , but trading Hibberd to WHE or Butler is a smart move. Holding onto a non playing rookie who is making you no money this early is more madness than trading.

    DaBoyz · 07/04/2017 at 17:24

    Not trading this round is probably why you're only 1-2% and no top 0%

Jim · 07/04/2017 at 15:49

Torn between getting in WHE (F5) or Witts (R2)? Can only fit one of them in. Any thoughts would be appreciated

    Jim · 07/04/2017 at 15:54

    Trading out Pickett by the way. Can get Witts through Nank DPP

Dildor · 07/04/2017 at 15:52

Keep us updated!

TheGreatBozza · 07/04/2017 at 15:59

Is Hibberd to Butler worth it? It'll move along cash gen but that's about it. My only injury concern is J.Smith but I'll wait on Newman for him.

My other concern is that I have only $3,000 in the bank. Would Roughy > WHE be worth it purely for cash gen? Or should I hold out as I can see Roughy turning the corner

    TBone · 07/04/2017 at 16:09

    roughy vs gold coast, he'll score huge!

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:09

    Rough will turn the corner, but I'm trading him anyway. Many are advising against it but the cash is too good to turn down for my side.

    Give Hibberd another few weeks to get back into the side and go Smith-Butler if you can, but if you can't, Hibberd-Butler is a good move.

      TheGreatBozza · 07/04/2017 at 16:19

      Don't have the cash for Smith to Butler unfortunately. As tempting as the cash is I'll hold Roughy, it's a long a season and I'm going to focus on a cash league victory, meaning trades will be vital

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:18

    I am scrapping Roughy to Witts (Already have WHE). YOu will make some serious dosh and they will average about the same. Even if Roughhead goes huge this week his average will be about 85-90 IMO

Bob · 07/04/2017 at 16:04

Start Taranto, Eddy or Parfitt on Bench as F8?

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 16:08

    I'd start Taranto, Bob

      Bob · 07/04/2017 at 16:25

      Thx Patch

    TBone · 07/04/2017 at 16:09

    taranto!

      Bob · 07/04/2017 at 16:26

      Thx T-Bone

Alex · 07/04/2017 at 16:09

Unsure if I should hold on hanners and either bring in WHE or marchbank..or downgrade, which I know is a big no no… was thinking hanners out swing up TT and and bring in WHE and drop vickers for marchbank, or fix my forward line with the hanners cash and bring in WHE and buddy

    John James · 07/04/2017 at 19:17

    In the end only you cane make the decision but I would trade Hanners to Marchbank.,although Buddy sounds good as well.

Sana · 07/04/2017 at 16:12

Trade Hanners? Y or N (no explanations required, I've heard every reason for both)

My decision will be based on weight of numbers from the JR Community of expert supercoaches

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 16:22

    nope

    i was told he is only owned by 10%. seems like everyone has him

    Winter · 07/04/2017 at 16:27

    Keep just because you hold your premo's

      marcus · 07/04/2017 at 16:29

      I wont be trading him

    LoganJosh7 · 07/04/2017 at 16:42

    no

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 16:56

    N

    Nick · 07/04/2017 at 16:58

    no

    Sana · 07/04/2017 at 17:06

    Thanks champions, consider him held.

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:17

    Nah

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:23

    N

    John James · 07/04/2017 at 19:12

    I have to laugh how everyone says don't trade your premo's ,but really what is the difference between trading a premo that isn't performing and a rookie.I don't have Hanners,but if I did I would be trading him out for another Premo that you would like,but don't have,like a Pendles or Bont or Beams,or if you already have them ,maybe to a rookie that is on the bubble that you don't have.I know I am going to be shouted down over this but in some cases it just makes sense to do it.

    Crowmagnon · 07/04/2017 at 19:16

    No

No idea · 07/04/2017 at 16:15

Bowes or Florent to WHE.
Trading one not sure which.

Mitchell Carter · 07/04/2017 at 16:23

Whats ottens JS like?
have hibberd and vickers on bench not playing. have stewart, marchbank, hampton, mcgrath already
need to move one on?
also
roughy down to whe or straight swap taranto to whe?

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:16

    Check the other 600 comments asking exactly the same thing

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 17:51

    Otten is a 50/50 for next week. May even be decided how well he plays this week. Jenkins back in next week might see him pushed out
    I would hold, but if you had to trade one i'd keep hibberd purely because he has had one game so is closer to bubble and he has DPP which is nice to swing other players around, especially if you get Berry

    i would pass on WHE. It is a reasonable good cash increase, but has a higher investment to make the cash. taranto will make good cash anyway, especially as his first round will drop out next week. Rough will come good, plays suns this week so should go close to 90+

Winter · 07/04/2017 at 16:27

Is Hannan a must have rookie or do I wait for Hayward next week?
Other trade is Taranto to Hoskin-Elliot which leaves me with only 2.7k in the bank…..

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 17:45

    did you watch hannan play last week? that is usually the best way to tell if you should bring a rookie in, can they play footy?

      Winter · 07/04/2017 at 18:55

      I didn't watch the game which is why I'm asking…

DavidSA · 07/04/2017 at 16:39

1) Hickey > Grundy
Picket > Butler. Leaves $3,500 in bank

3) Taranto > WHE
Picket > Butler. Leaves 59,900 in bank

2) Hickey > Witts
Picket > Butler. Leaves 306k in bank

Plz need lots of honest feedback
Keep Hickey or not and is WHE a must have?

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:16

    I personally would go option 2. 1 is tempting but you need more dosh in the bank than that. Witts will appreciate quickly and in getting him over HIckey you effectively make 300k with the price of downgrade + his cash gen. Higgo was speaking about this in the POD (give it a listen).

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:18

    Option 2 for mine. Need that cash generation and Hickey's awful score will drop out of his calculations after this weekend, so you can make the switch later.

Liam · 07/04/2017 at 16:41

Should i get rid of jobe watson for clayton oliver or hold?

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:14

    If you picked him you backed him as a keeper. Stick with him. In saying that freeing up 80k and the cash gen is tempting…. I think that they will both average around the 100 mark this year

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:19

    Hold – Jobe hasn't been going that badly, and will have the same output as Oliver. Save the trade.

Tom · 07/04/2017 at 16:49

Got 103k and 29 trades left
DEF: Simmo, T.Adams, Laird, hampton, Otten, Stewart (HIbberd, Smith)
Mid: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams O'meara, SPP (Hibberd, Pickett, Barrett)
RUC: Grundy, Sandy (Strnadica)
FWD: Buddy, Dahl, Macrae, Hoskin Elliot, Butler, Hannan (Bowes, Eddy)

So guys, been hearing that Nank maybe a must have. Is this true and is there anyway of getting him in?

    Tom · 07/04/2017 at 16:51

    Hibberd is in def, not in the middle. Parfitt is the other rookie mid

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:13

    If you want Nank in (I don't think it is necessary/feasible with your structure), I would scrap JOM and swing Bowes into the midfield, then picking up Nankdaddy in ya forward line. Only do it if you think he will average more than JOM. I reckon it will be about the same, but he is a lot less likely to do a knee! Also means you have either bowes or Barrett onfield in the mids, which could cause issue.

      Tom · 07/04/2017 at 17:19

      Thanks mate, its either that or i don't get him, and go Bowes – Houston and Smith – Marchbank. Which one do ya reckon?

      Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:20

      Yeah this seems the only option to get him in, and as loathe as I'd be to trade Jaeger out I think you Need The Nank

        Thomas · 07/04/2017 at 19:40

        You reckon he is that much of a must have? Even more than bringing in Marchbank for a non playing player?

Tony · 07/04/2017 at 16:57

Hi Patch – whichh two do you think should be on field out of Taranto Butler and Houston. Cheers

    SCDamien · 07/04/2017 at 17:04

    Houston, probably.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:25

    Taranto and Houston for mine

relton · 07/04/2017 at 17:02

should a trade out either pickett or parfitt to bring in houston for quick cash generation??
Not sure about bringing in WHE also…

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:26

    If you've got non-playing rookies, trade them out, but one of Pickett and Parfitt out wouldn't hurt for one of WHE or Houston (probably WHE if you can)

Krups · 07/04/2017 at 17:04

My only issue is should i trade Roughy to WHE and Hibberd to Otton and have $330,000 in war chest. My FWD line would be Dalh, Buddy, Higgins, Nank, Butler and either one of the above options in WHE or roughy

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:24

    Like those move, Krups

      Krups · 07/04/2017 at 17:26

      Thanks Patch

Joe T · 07/04/2017 at 17:04

Good luck with the league matchups this week community!

I'm trading Hibberd to Butler via DPP which is a no brainer. I'm unsure on WHE but it seems like that cash generation is too good to pass up. Is it worth trading Pickett to WHE even though Pickett has pretty good JS but doesn't seem like he'll generate much cash? Leaves me with $35k

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:24

    I'd pull the pin on the second trade. We need that cash gen early on, and Pickett won't provide much of it. However, if you have other non-playing rookies, trade them out first

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:33

    Pickett has just been named in the VFL side. Get rid of him if you need to get in old mate WHE.

    Joe T · 07/04/2017 at 18:43

    Cheers boys, think i'll go with it!

    No other non-playing rookies other than Joel Smith in defence who'll become Nic Newman next week if all goes to plan

Kenny · 07/04/2017 at 17:06

G'day community – does anyone know why there are big differences between what Supercoach Gold prices forecast and the Footywire predictions? Are they done by dividing a different number (ie $5441 was preseason price divider). SG price rises for Murphy doesn't inspire selection but the Footywire ones do .. any info appreciated.

relton · 07/04/2017 at 17:09

trade the injured simpkin to WHE or houston??

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:22

    WHE for mine

bill · 07/04/2017 at 17:10

Roughy –> WHE
+
Hibberd(NTH) –> Marchbank

Thoughts on these trades??

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:22

    Like 'em, Bill

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:32

    Yup

JTread · 07/04/2017 at 17:10

Bank of 154k & 29 Trades:

DEF – Adams, Laird, Docherty, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Hibberd)
MID – Danger, Selwood, Fyfe, JPK, Beams, Jobe Watson, SPP, O'Meara (Barrett, Parfitt, Pickett)
RUC – Stef Martin, Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD – Nank, Macrae, Dahl, Roughy, Taranto, Houston (Butler, Eddy)

Considering

*Jobe for Pendles/Bont
*Roughy for Buddy
*Taranto/Pickett/Parfitt for WHE

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:22

    Jobe-Bont
    Roughy-WHE

    Thoughts?

      Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:32

      Just about to suggest a similar thing. Maybe Jobe to Pendles though.

        JTread · 07/04/2017 at 17:50

        thanks guys.. thinking now taranto-WHE & Jobe-Bont. thoughts?

FiL · 07/04/2017 at 17:11

Thinking of going Matt Crouch out and Dyson Heppell in.
Heppel looks like an absolute stud and Crouch looks like a trap.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 17:22

    This is the one round of the year we can go sideways, FiL, however I can't see either finishing top 10, so if you're dropping Crouch, I'd try and go up to a rolled gold premium.

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:29

    If you are dropping him grab a true blue premo. Just remember you bought him for a reason…

      Steven · 07/04/2017 at 19:33

      What are thoughts either murphy or wines?

Alex · 07/04/2017 at 17:19

29 Trades – 140k. Should I trade J Smith, Hibberd or Strndeca this week Only options are Stewart, Mcgrath or Preuss, advice?
DEF: Shaw, Tuohy, Adams, March, Otten, Hampton (Hibberd, J Smith)
MID: Pendles, JPK, Danger, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Swallow, P-Pepper (Barrett, Pickett, Parfitt)
RUC: Gawn, Sandi (Strndeca)
FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Rough, Nank, Hoskin-Elliott, Taranto (Eddy, Hannan)

    Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:31

    Maybe go Hibberd to Stewart. But I reckon Newman will be a better option than him so perhaps wait a week. The other change I would suggest would be getting rid of Tuohy for someone like JJ or Rozza Laird. These guys are premo's who are definitely will be in the top 8 come years end – whilst tuohy is a bit more speculative. You have the cash in the bank and this is the one week we make sideways trades – so I personally would pull the trigger.

Thomas · 07/04/2017 at 17:22

Hey guys, just working out my VC and C this week. These are my options:

JPK, buddy, pendles, Treloar, Danger, Fyfe, Beams.

Which you you reckon should be VC and C? My loophole is Strrndica so VC has to be friday night/saturday arvo.

    Mystic Mac · 07/04/2017 at 17:31

    I've gone with Buddy 🙂

    finnigin · 07/04/2017 at 18:16

    danger vc and if short of 125 look for gaj to smoke it up on sunday

James · 07/04/2017 at 17:24

worth swapping picket to houston? or waste of trade? current rookie situation is

Def: Marchbank, Otten, Hampton, Stewart, Hibberd (waiting on berry)
Mid: SPP, Barrett, Parfitt, Picket
Ruck: Witts
Fwd: WHE, Butler, Taranto, Eddy

currently sitting 750th and have burned 1 trade this week (smith to witts via DPP), any thoughts would be appreciated

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:26

    swap pickett to houston.

Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:25

Whilst this is the Panic Room – I think that everyone needs to take 3 deep breaths. The amount of talk on here about trading Premo's is absolutely ridiculous! One bad week does not constitute a season people. Relax. Switch off your laptop. Good trades never come this late anyways.

Finnius123 · 07/04/2017 at 17:28

Pickett named in the VFL side. Not looking likely for Sunday

    relton · 07/04/2017 at 17:32

    his on the pine for the blues

Chamblais · 07/04/2017 at 17:31

Any harm trading Schoenmakers to WHE? Not sure when Schoenmakers will be back in the lineup.

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 17:40

    do it.

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:26

    Why the hell did you have Schoenmakers in the first place!?

      Chamblais · 07/04/2017 at 19:11

      Because I'm tragic at this game!

JonathonBrown · 07/04/2017 at 17:34

hoskin elliot or higgins?

    JonathonBrown · 07/04/2017 at 17:35

    currently have the vc on hannebry aswell just to remind myself he can be a good captain when in form

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:25

    WHE

Paul · 07/04/2017 at 17:38

Is Taranto for WHE a good trade?

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:25

    No. Trade a non playing rookie first
    or Pickett –> WHE

      Paul · 08/04/2017 at 12:48

      Thanks

harry · 07/04/2017 at 17:42

roughy -> WHE

or

roughy -> higgins

or

hold roughy and hope he comes good and is a f6 option?

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:25

    roughy –> WHE

dazloki · 07/04/2017 at 17:44

been disciplined and only used one trade so far… looking now to jump off joel smith – which of these three is more legit: mackie, spurr or salem? or should i bank some cash and go for mcgrath? please and thank you 🙂

    finnigin · 07/04/2017 at 18:13

    i rekon mcgrath by mid season will average 90 plus, still finding his feet and doing ok

      dazloki · 07/04/2017 at 18:34

      cheers – what do you think about not trading in any of the current crop and waiting for another def rookie to hit the bubble? I have def cover so can afford to do this too…

        Daniel · 08/04/2017 at 11:48

        Wait for Newman next week

Pacca Jnr · 07/04/2017 at 17:49

Urgent question with time running out, going to trade out Cam McCarthy, and my options are

Option 1 – Straight swap to WHE
Option 2 – Swing Nank into forwards and bring in Witts in the ruck

Current forward line is: JJK, Macrae, Steele, McCarthy, Houston, Pickett – look better with Nank/Witts combo or WHE/Nank?

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:24

    WHE/Nank

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 18:37

    Option 2 for mine. Witts is the most overlooked cash cow this week and Nank belongs in your forward line anyway.

WitTsY · 07/04/2017 at 17:54

is strnadica to witts a good move ?? he'd only be on my bench but generating cash! got stef R1 sandi R2 and nank up FWD

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:24

    I have the exact same setup as you, but if you trade out Stnadica then you won't have the freedom of swaping with Nank when Sandi cooks it. I'm getting in WHE and Houston over Witts

      WitTsY · 07/04/2017 at 18:42

      but if sandi cooks it u have witts to step on the field?? but yes that will isolate nank to fwd line

        Crowmagnon · 07/04/2017 at 18:49

        Im thinking about going joel smith to witts via dpp and leaving strndca on the fwd bench with the view to moving him back to the ruck later.
        Only problem is i have to trade roughy down to whe to do it.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 18:50

    Witts worries me – if things keep going badly in GC (which they will), they'll change it up and possibly bring in another ruckman, which will kill his score. He's a lot lower on my personal priority list, but if you've got all the must have rookies, he will undeniably make cash

Josh · 07/04/2017 at 17:58

How much is HOUSTON estimated to rise in price???

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:23

    $73,000 this week

Dylan · 07/04/2017 at 17:58

I have all good rookies except for WHE and Butler. Do I trade to get both or just gun for one of them?

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:22

    Butler first IMO, then WHE. Depends how much $$ you will have at the end of both of those trades

      Dylan · 07/04/2017 at 18:28

      Currently have $3,330, my only realistic trade to get WHE is to swap KK via DPP switch. Butler I can get through trading Hibberd pretty easily

        Crowmagnon · 07/04/2017 at 18:52

        I would do that kk isnt a top 6 defender or going to make cash.

Adam · 07/04/2017 at 18:01

Is trading Hampton to Marchbank worth a trade??? Or is it a waste of a trade? Please help!!

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:22

    Waste. Hampton is in line to make good cash. Do you have NO ONE down back that you could swap? Ideally you want a non playing rookie

    Youngy · 07/04/2017 at 19:58

    waste

Mitchell Carter · 07/04/2017 at 18:03

pendles or jpk vc tonight?
feel like its a flip of a coin

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:21

    JPK

    Youngy · 07/04/2017 at 19:58

    Pendles for mine

finnigin · 07/04/2017 at 18:06

the best supercoacher ever has the heat on him so expect some huge numbers from him, pity he is in the last round but, fortune favours the brave , if the vc misses 125, im jumpin on

Derek · 07/04/2017 at 18:15

i love the panic Room…. so much panic!!!

here are my thoughts on the week.

WHE has been mentioned a thousand times, i wonder who will be the flavor of next week?

he will make some nice cash and should be close to $335k in a couple of weeks with 2 reasonable scores. a nice $120k increase. After that there won't be much increase as his 120 will drop out and unless he has another big score to replace it he will stagnate around $360k. swans & saints next two rounds. Whatever happens it will be a quick turnaround and you will have to trade him out in week 5 which is great timing to get the next wave of rookies and what trading for cash increase is all about.

he could smash out another 120 and then it is happy days, $400k here he comes, or

the downside is that if he has a couple of poor games, and at his inflated price he won't make as much cash as a bargin rookie with similar scores will. if he comes out and has two 50's he will only make about $95k before his price peak…still ok.

i personally had a look at going Smith to WHE but was $2k short, so i moved on, not wanting to change any structures to make it happen.

I think the bottom line is to look at Butler first. If you already have Butler and you have enough cash in the bank to trade out a dead rookie to WHE it should be a nice trade, plenty of upside and minimal (if any) downside. if you don't have the cash, don't panic, there will be another flavor of the week in a few days time.

    Flubber · 07/04/2017 at 18:21

    Love your work Derek
    I personally think that Collingwood will get flogged tonight, so can't see WHE getting another monster score. Still going with him for that $100k increase in price though. Hibberd –> WHE a no brainer

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 18:21

    Are you holding ya boy Simpkin? I thought that's who you might be culling for WHE this week.

      Derek · 07/04/2017 at 18:48

      wasn't happy he wasn't named. but it was because of injury, so hold for now. if he was omitted i may have gone Simpkin to WHE (have the cash)

      i havn't seen a Norf game this year to see him play.

        Derek · 07/04/2017 at 19:34

        Am worried Simpkin might miss more than 1 and become a Lambert, sitting on bubble for weeks.

        Tempting……

    Mickey P · 07/04/2017 at 18:27

    I like your reasoning Derek … but still has not helped me decide on whether to go Taranto to WHE or not?

    WHE has better job security and quicker cash increase, but like you said, he could stink it up this week and maybe Taranto scores an 80? I am so confused

      Derek · 07/04/2017 at 18:47

      taranto should increase by $50k to $70k in the next two weeks with reasonable scores. therefore you are only behind WHE trade by $60k-$70k. NOT worth the trade for that small amount.

      i think taranto might get on the end of a few being in the GWS forward line. their first week was bad, GWS are real deal and i can see them giving some teams a touch up.

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 18:29

    OTTEN is all about job security.

    he is about to go wooshka in price. As a % Return on investment ROI he is way ahead of WHE (maybe Butler is the only one better this week)

    so normally it would be a no-brainer, especially with Smith sitting on the bench with a big red dot next to his name.

    ottens problem is that he had a great score last week because of an injury to jenkins and his role changed mid-game. 1) that won't happen again, so don't expect another 100+ 2) Lever has come back into the team, but otten has kept his place which is good, but he may still get pushed out when jenkins returns next week. It may come down to how well he plays this week, or maybe another injury. Cheeny isn't far away from a game either to put extra pressure on his place.

    i am tempted to trade Smith to otten and make some nice cash this week, maybe $70k and run the risk of maybe another week and grab some more cash. probably had that trade locked away until teams came out and i saw a nice bunch of rookies get named. i don't want to have a half-cooked non playing otten on my bench when there are better rookies to get in a couple of weeks time.

    bottom line is, if i was guaranteed that he would get two more games, i'd be happy with that and the timing would be great to cull him and get another bubble boy, nice fast easy cash…. but i'm not convinced he will play next week so i'll probably pass.

    the only other thing that may change my mind is if newman has a really poor game tonight. he will be my Smith to newman trade next week, but if he goes poor, i might jump on Smith to otten trade before saturday afternoon.

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 18:55

    love it, Derek. Agree, but WHE has what a lot of others don't, which is job security. Taranto is up in the air, I'm still worried by Houston. We should absolutely be aware of WHE dropping pant stains (I reckon he'll give us one tonight) but he'll still rise in value, and the Pies' mids are good enough to give their forwards every opportunity.

    Completely agree that Butler is ahead of him, however.

    Love your insights as always, Derek!

      Derek · 07/04/2017 at 19:32

      I don't mind the quick cash grab. Even if he has a poor game tonight, good cash.

      JS isn't my worry, would look at moving on quickly if I got him.

      I am able to go Simpkin to WHE. Just worried if Simpkin might miss a few

        SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 19:43

        C'mon Derek I know you like to be a contrarian and not follow the herd but everyone loves a quick cash grab and who knows maybe WHE will pleasantly surprise you. 🙂

        Even if Simpkin returns soon he doesn't present as the most appetising cash cow known to man.

David · 07/04/2017 at 18:20

Hanners to Higgins and Cameron to WHE, solid trades?

    Dylan · 07/04/2017 at 18:44

    Try to hold Hanners if you can as he could turn things around, if it's really necessary to move him then yeah those trades are pretty good

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 18:47

    Higgins not yet proven – I'd hold. Cameron to WHE is a good move if you can make it though

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 18:53

    No and Yes

Dusty's Neck Tatts · 07/04/2017 at 18:25

How about Roughy to Clayton Oliver (via dpp)?

    Dylan · 07/04/2017 at 18:45

    I like the move! Maybe try Roughie to WHE first but if you have him already I'd personally do it

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 18:47

    Don't mind it mate!

      yellownblack · 07/04/2017 at 20:01

      hi guys,

      I'm thinking on taranto to oliver and I've traded roughy to WHE.. yes or no?

Todd · 07/04/2017 at 18:36

Can someone explain how the captains loophole works? Only player i have thats not playing is hibberd in defence. Can i have VC on JPK and C on dangerfield?

    Dylan · 07/04/2017 at 18:44

    Yeah of course, put the VC on JPK and if he makes a huge score, swap Hibberd onto the field and put the captaincy on him. Put the emergency on the player you swapped to the bench and you'll reap the rewards

      Todd · 07/04/2017 at 18:47

      Cheers dylza!

Jim · 07/04/2017 at 18:38

Torn between trading out Pickett for either WHE (F5) or Witts (R2-via Nank DPP)? Can only fit one of them in. Any thoughts would be appreciated

    Mickey P · 07/04/2017 at 18:41

    Same dilemma – tossed a coin – welcome my team WHE

      Patch · 07/04/2017 at 18:49

      I would take WHE. Witts a chance to spud it up majorly, and I still have the sinking feeling Nicholls or Brooksby will get a game if this get even more pear shaped up there

    Dylan · 07/04/2017 at 18:42

    I think WHE is a better idea, Pickett isn't going to make mush cash at all and at Collingwood, Hoskin-Elliot has cash to make and he will have much better job security. Even when Jamie Elliot is back, I think guys like Broomhead or Phillips will go before Hoskin-Elliot

    Dutch · 07/04/2017 at 18:51

    WHE the better option out of those two

    Youngy · 07/04/2017 at 19:59

    Agree WHE for mine

harryO · 07/04/2017 at 18:44

parfitt or pickett to houston??

    Patch · 07/04/2017 at 18:48

    Would go Pickett but it's impossible to tell

Borko · 07/04/2017 at 18:54

Anyone game to put the VC on Hannebery?

DAVIDDDDDDDDDDD · 07/04/2017 at 18:55

Making a late call of taranto to butler and Mills to Adams. creates a bit more guns and rookies going forward, thoughts?

Blaknight · 07/04/2017 at 18:56

Thoughts community.

Out of C.Hampton, T.Stewart & A.Otten need 1 on the pine.

Out of D.Butler, T.Taranto, D.Houston & B.Eddy need 2 on the pine.

Thanks.

    DAVIDDDDDDDDDDD · 07/04/2017 at 18:57

    stewart eddy and butler on pine

      Crowmagnon · 07/04/2017 at 18:59

      I'd put butler on field. Coin toss between houston and taranto. Aaaand taranto won.

Iconic · 07/04/2017 at 18:57

Roughy >> W. Hoskin-Elliot and $320k or J. Smith >> W. Hoskin-Elliot and $45k

    Crowmagnon · 07/04/2017 at 18:58

    Smith.

EatChickenNuggets · 07/04/2017 at 18:59

What's the deal with Pickett? Named in VFL and AFL sides??

Thommo88 · 07/04/2017 at 19:01

Hey community I need some opinions.

I Traded Roo out last week.

This week
MCarthy to WHE

Don't have Butler worth trading out mountford via DPP? Not a fan of 3 trades down before RD 3

Current Rookies Below
Marchbank, Ottens, hampton, Stewart, hibberd, SPP,Barett, Pickett, Mountford, Parfitt, WHE, Taranto Houston, Eddy, Strandica

Thanks Guys

BrownlowBoy · 07/04/2017 at 19:07

Pickett/Parfitt to Houston a good trade?

    TBone · 07/04/2017 at 19:19

    pickett

cashcows · 07/04/2017 at 19:17

Smith to Houston no brainer?

    Jib_Jib · 07/04/2017 at 19:27

    I'm dodging Houston this week, bad JS don't want to trade in a problem. Lots more fwd rookies will be available very soon.

Tommo09 · 07/04/2017 at 19:20

JPK into Gawn this week

    Mich · 07/04/2017 at 19:23

    For what its worth, JPKs grandma passed away today. Not sure how that will affect his game

Jordan · 07/04/2017 at 19:21

Simpkin to Houston or hold him

hedski · 07/04/2017 at 19:24

SPS to Houston bringing Taranto to mids onfield (had SPS onfield).
SPS's cash gen looks pretty suss atm for his price, leaves $80k in the kitty.
I'll look at Pickett/Parfitt to Hayward or someone after they make a paltry $5k this week.
Solid?

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 19:26

    That would be only trade, leaving WHE alone, dont want to mess with structure.

    Noirlust · 09/04/2017 at 17:38

    Sps over 100 points so far today. Looks like it was a good trade

      hedski · 09/04/2017 at 18:15

      Yeah mate spewin, see comment in fat chew.

Jordan · 07/04/2017 at 19:27

I'm panicking do I need Hoskin Elliot or not!!!! Will I fall behind if I don't go Taranto to him..? Because people who do get him in will generate cash earlier therefore will have a full premium side earliear

DAVIDDDDDDDDDDD · 07/04/2017 at 19:32

Mills to Lloyd, someone convince me it's a bad idea

    Captain Risky · 07/04/2017 at 19:40

    Got Lloyd, happy so far but it's only 2 games in !!!

Vinny · 07/04/2017 at 19:38

Is it worth trading
Taranto for Marcbank
Hannerbery for Sloane

Will pick up Hanners on the cheap, i know its a waste of two trades, but has to happen now. Sorry Dan, prove me wrong though.

hedski · 07/04/2017 at 19:39

I tell ya what Cameron to Preuss is starting to look sexy the closer this game gets to starting.
Have Gawndiballs and Nank fwd, Cameron is not much chop for a loop/swing atm anyway and Preuss can generate some cash before offloading him for Serious Penii.
$hit wasn't gonna trade.

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 19:49

I decided to do nothing this week…nothing I tells ya! hahaha and I don't care, just feels weird not to trade for 3 rounds but, i'm travelling ok, so FK Witts, and WHE, and everyone else some think are a must get in this week. Plenty more coming in soon , it's nice still having 30 trades 🙂

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 20:06

    Couldn't help myself Russ, down to 28 🙁

      Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:19

      I'm sure you made smart choices Hedski, you're an experienced campaigner, all i remember about the last 10 years of Supercoach is, running out of trades and praying to baby Jesus no one went down in the finals lol, so trying to avoid that this year.
      Also, when I looked back through my trade choices, I regretted about a third of them.
      Ideally I'd like to just be able to go BANG BANG BANG BANG! in the last third of the season :), I'm only in it for the leagues though, not overall, need another 10 years experience for that!

        hedski · 07/04/2017 at 20:26

        SPS and Cameron to Preuss and Houston…cash generators.

          Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:34

          Yep understand that, will strengthen your team points and moneywise, both corrective trades rather than reactive or bandwagon trades.

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:06

So much for buddy as VC lol, it needs to get in Swan's forward line before he can score points! wake up Sydney.

johnno2908 · 07/04/2017 at 20:15

Hannerz looks to be running with Treloar?

Jack · 07/04/2017 at 20:22

Got in WHE, and after actually watching him closely for the first time….he is one of the biggest seagulls I've ever seen lol. Is basically just standing on his own on the wing and getting uncontested marks. Looks like he's going to be a solid scorer long term with that role

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:29

Treloar's disposal efficiency is Rubbish at the moment, 40 %, not good enough for a premo midfielder, needs to think a bit more.

Holty · 07/04/2017 at 20:31

Wow, WHE 10 disposals, 9 kicks, 8 marks, 70% de at quarter time and only 26sc points.i also hope noone traded out Hanners as well. 29points at quarter time.

    Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:39

    Seems a bit harsh, but I'm guessing it's cause none of those marks are contested, and not many of those kicks were effective. He does get his hands on it a lot though!

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 20:40

    Hanners looking more Hanners like.

      Holty · 07/04/2017 at 20:43

      Yeah hedski. You could see last week he was getting more into the contests. Its only a matter of time

    Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:47

    6968 traded out Hanners this week, insanity 🙂

      BlakeyP · 07/04/2017 at 21:05

      Fools

Trader · 07/04/2017 at 20:43

How many fools traded out hanners…….lol

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:44

Fasolo will probably be the one everyone wants to jump on next week.

    Derek · 08/04/2017 at 00:09

    Never entered my mind.

BrownlowBoy · 07/04/2017 at 20:53

Own up, who traded Hanners?

    Daniel · 08/04/2017 at 12:01

    I thought about it but then remembered I traded Sloane out after a slow start last year (he ended up top 10-15 midfielders for the year).

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 20:55

Maybe trading out Treloar to someone who thinks about their posessions more wasn't such a bad idea this week?

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 21:01

6561 people traded in Sam Reid this week also, and he's had 4 disposals at half time for 19 points

Stav · 07/04/2017 at 21:01

Ouch for those who traded Hanners this week. 63 to half time

    BlakeyP · 07/04/2017 at 21:04

    SC Gods at work dont trade ya premos

      John James · 07/04/2017 at 21:23

      Unless you have Treloar. HaHaHaHa

        Randomcliche2 · 07/04/2017 at 23:59

        just a longer job that one….I'm sure they are on to it…. I did love the CD review into his scores…. check out the Paige on FB for the details…

          hedski · 08/04/2017 at 00:24

          Yeah, written by old April Treloar on the first wasn't it? Ha ha.

Ben · 07/04/2017 at 21:19

Why can't Adam trelor kick?

    Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 21:22

    I think he's a bit of a panic merchant and doesn't look for a target properly before getting rid of it.

    Finnius · 07/04/2017 at 21:27

    Just kicked a serious goal

Holty · 07/04/2017 at 21:27

Does supercoach gold give you updated scores of the players during games?

    Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 21:33

    Don't think so, Gold gives you predictions, breakevens and the analyser, $28 a month subscription to Herald Sun gives you the alleged "live scores" and all the articles afl related to supercoach…and i do mean alleged!

      Holty · 07/04/2017 at 21:35

      Cheers russ

      hedski · 07/04/2017 at 23:04

      Yes (Sry have subscription not sure)

    Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 21:35

    P.S, subscribing to the Herald Sun, online also gives you Supercoach Gold for the season.

      Don't Blush Baby · 07/04/2017 at 21:47

      Suggest Fan Footy

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 23:03

    If u are in match day you can hit player stats and it gives u live sc for every player. Works better now than first two rounds.
    Think the gold trial would have ran out by now for those tight arses out there.

John James · 07/04/2017 at 21:29

Trading in Taylor Adams this week looks like a good move,should have already had him,but wanted to see how he went first.

    Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 21:35

    Yeah he's pretty good, if he holds up.

    Holty · 07/04/2017 at 21:37

    Still dont have him and wont. Expect him to miss games at somepoint. Although he will be tempting after the byes if he hasnt missed any game til that point

      Kev · 07/04/2017 at 22:35

      He'll cost over 640k by then Holty

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 21:48

Hahaha, i know 6968 people will hate me right now but Hanneberry is 99 points at three quarter time lol

    Kev · 07/04/2017 at 22:34

    His break even next week will still be 200 and I traded him for Adams so yeah I'm laughing Russ. I spose you're one of the donkeys who kept him mate.

      marcus · 07/04/2017 at 23:20

      Kev clearly doesnt know supercoach. Trades a premium becuase of his breakeven.
      You wont be laughing when your out trades mate

        Derek · 08/04/2017 at 00:07

        Kev is clearly Just joking.

        ………… I hope

Boltons Blues · 07/04/2017 at 21:49

Put your hands up if you traded out hanners this wee?
Not me thankfully (didn't start him)

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 22:43

    Hanners was off injured most of last quarter, only scored 12pt in 4th

      meph · 08/04/2017 at 03:33

      I admit that i did. A score of 111 does not change anything to me. Wont be a top 8 mid.

hedski · 07/04/2017 at 21:52

Looks like Hibbo Jr is not getting a run this week (VC Buddy).
He's gone for Newman next week (@74 at 3/4 time).

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 22:06

UUUUGH it seems like no one wants to win this Game!

Steeeve · 07/04/2017 at 22:16

Glad I brought WHE in but by golly he's made some half hearted efforts in the second half. Amazing skills and when he goes he makes a real impact. Just isn't happening enough.
Smooth as butter and soft as putty.

    SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 22:54

    Will go up $70K this week alone … Ka-Ching!

Russ in W.A · 07/04/2017 at 22:24

Sydney don't seem to be as powerful as what they once were.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2017 at 22:31

    maybe it's because of the 7 rookies they have on the field…

Shake n bake · 07/04/2017 at 22:26

Brought in Newman a week early glad l did.

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 22:40

    how many times will Newman get mentioned this week

      SCaddict · 07/04/2017 at 22:49

      Get ready for a deluge of Seinfeld GIFs on Facebook and Twitter!

      "Hellooooo NEWMAN!"

      Shake n bake · 07/04/2017 at 23:09

      It was a risk but worth taking in the end had emg on him with hibbard starting. Had nowhere to move with Smith & hibbard as non players. Would have to have started Stewart wasn't keen. Oh well had to pot Smith & sure Newman will get a gig next week.

        hedski · 07/04/2017 at 23:25

        BANG!

          Derek · 07/04/2017 at 23:34

          Yep. He was very good. Most will have him by next week

            Shake n bake · 07/04/2017 at 23:44

            I'm a genius mate

              hedski · 08/04/2017 at 00:04

              And a humble one at that Shaker!

              Derek · 08/04/2017 at 00:06

              Yes you are mate

    Shake n bake · 07/04/2017 at 23:58

    Last comment with im a genius was somebody else using my name… but tnx!

      hedski · 08/04/2017 at 00:05

      Ha, I bit.

        Shake n bake · 08/04/2017 at 11:52

        True didnt write those comments about genius have to see how l can go about getting an emblem like you guys.

          hedski · 08/04/2017 at 13:16

          Intense debate account or WordPress.

    Kim · 08/04/2017 at 10:49

    Unless you had him on the ground or loopholed doesn't matter. Everyone will get him next week though.

Michael · 07/04/2017 at 22:29

Treloar saved by those tackles….13 effective disposals, 46% efficiency. He's such a butcher of the footy

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 22:48

    After his first quarter, will take it

    SC loves Pendles

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 23:08

    He will iron out some kinks as year goes on.
    Look how he came home last year.

Finnius · 07/04/2017 at 22:31

That was a serious game of footy!

Finnius · 07/04/2017 at 22:32

Hoskin Elliott will get seriously scaled up for that last goal surely

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 22:47

    I think he scored 25 in first 5 mins, 25 for his last kick and the other 20 points for one of the best seagull displays I've ever seen on a footy field

      Boris · 08/04/2017 at 03:55

      Why didn't a Swan pick him up. Bad coaching Longmire. Like Hanners, he appeared unchecked most of the game.

Soothsayer · 07/04/2017 at 22:36

SC scores anyone?

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 23:09

    Can't you log into your team?

bob the builder · 07/04/2017 at 22:45

Should i captain Danger or Tom Mitchell??

    Stupid Coach · 07/04/2017 at 22:51

    Put the VC on Danger and the C on Mitchell since he doesn't play til Sunday. If Danger has a big one then you just use the loophole and put the C on someone who is not playing.

      bob the builder · 07/04/2017 at 22:51

      I had the VC on Buddy unfortunately

        hedski · 07/04/2017 at 23:11

        Same, I'm thinking Jelwood or Gawn as smokies.
        Probs Danger tho.

        Kim · 08/04/2017 at 10:51

        Haha you and a lot of others who had him, that's key forwards for you. Can go bananas or terrible. Just needed to kick a few goals and he would have got a lot more.

Bert · 07/04/2017 at 22:47

Take robbie fox's 78 as captain or go with dangerfield?

JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2017 at 22:47

"he looks like a 100avg player", "he looks shot for the year", "his past his prime", "always looking to the easy ball". 9 tackles, 14 contested possessions and 6 clearances just made all coaches who traded him out look like absolute rookies hahahaha!

Michael · 07/04/2017 at 22:57

Would you take Pendles (vc) 125 or back in Danger?

    Thomas · 07/04/2017 at 23:09

    Wondering the same thing, thinking about taking it as Danger's record against the dees isnt great

    Pman · 07/04/2017 at 23:34

    Take Pendles score. My rule of thumb is to always take a minimum of 125 as VC score so reckon Pendles is a safe bet.

    John James · 07/04/2017 at 23:46

    Right on the borderline for me 125+ and I usually take it,Goodwin did say he would back his mids against the cats but they do have a history of tagging Danger.So hard to know,if they just go head to head Danger should get 130+ but if they tag him,might only get 90 to 110.So looking at those odds I would take Pendles 125 Danger might get 10 more,but that's the risk you take.

    Randomcliche2 · 08/04/2017 at 00:06

    I'm in the same boat. Considering Rocky/Titch as well for the C….difficult one with Gawn there. Anything over 130+ I snap take… 125 is line ball considering Danger's avg last year.

Stupid Coach · 07/04/2017 at 22:59

Do I trade Smith to Otten this week or wait till next week and get Newman after he blitzed tonight.

Also, should I hold onto Strndica or move him on. Have him at R3. Doesn't seem to be any viable options except Pruess who is not DPP.

Thoughts ?

    hedski · 07/04/2017 at 23:32

    Strnadica is a loophole at r3.
    Otten/Newman depends on your other def rooks Stupid.

      Stupid Coach · 08/04/2017 at 08:47

      Thanks Hedski. I have Hampton and Stewart. Leaning towards Otten because he is a more mature rookie and better JS. While Newman is scoring well heoght be dropped since Sydney are now 0-3 and will be more desperate to win next week.

        Stupid Coach · 08/04/2017 at 09:31

        might*

    John James · 07/04/2017 at 23:35

    Newman next week,like everybody else who has Smithy,I have Pruess at R3 not worried about the DPP, as long as he is playing and making cash.

      Stupid Coach · 08/04/2017 at 12:25

      Thanks John James.

Clarky · 07/04/2017 at 23:40

Hey guys, please help me. Thinking about trades

Option 1: Bowes – Houston, Smith to Marchbank
Option 2: Bowes – Houston, O'meara – Nank
Option 3: O'meara – Nank Via DPP this week, Smith to Newman next week

Which one should i go with?

    Derek · 07/04/2017 at 23:54

    I think Houstons got JS problems. Unless you are very certain he will play next week, I would pass on him. Might get good cash increase this week, but you need another week or two to get the max cash

      Clarky · 07/04/2017 at 23:56

      Good point Derek, which option would you pick?

      hedski · 08/04/2017 at 00:40

      Ya can't be certain any rookie will be playing next week Derek, Houston hasn't done much wrong and Kenny is under pressure, good players will hold their spot.

        Clarky · 08/04/2017 at 08:09

        Which option would you pick hedski?

          hedski · 08/04/2017 at 09:55

          Probably 1, I'd want Nank tho…makes it hard, not sure trading JOM for him tho Clarky, tough call you've got.

Derek · 08/04/2017 at 00:00

I was pretty happy with Hanners effort tonight, it was a pitty he was injured in last quarter and spend 15mins on bench. Came back on in last 5 mins, other wise would have got close to 130 (99 at 3/4 time).

Adams and Trelor both did good. Trelor started poor but came home strong, his running goal was highlight. His SC scores can only get better because they can't get any worse. Very happy with both.

How far is Wells away. Who will he affect most? I'm thinking Pendles.

    Derek · 08/04/2017 at 00:03

    I also thought Mills was outstanding. His mark going back with ball was courageous. Won't see WHE doing that.

    Without any midfield time 80's is all he will get. Maybe when McVeigh gets back he is worth another look.

    Newman looked like a 100 gamer tonight. Eye catching

      hedski · 08/04/2017 at 00:42

      Mills will be an absolute gun, him and Heeney, wow.

    SCaddict · 08/04/2017 at 00:11

    Yeah looking forward to picking off Hanners super cheap shortly, probably using my cash rocket with initials WHE. 🙂

Iamme · 08/04/2017 at 00:06

I traded out Hanners, but not to fussed as I brought in Beams…..112 is not great when you consider Hanners will still lose a lot of cash and Beams should at least match that output and make some dollars…..Winning!.

Chief · 08/04/2017 at 00:45

Hibberd to Newman? thoughts?

    LetsGo · 08/04/2017 at 01:00

    Yes?

    hedski · 08/04/2017 at 02:00

    Most popular trade in sc next week by Winxs margin.

      Northernsoul74 · 08/04/2017 at 07:20

      Smith to Newman might beat it but yes he needs to come in.

        hedski · 08/04/2017 at 09:56

        Forgot about Smith, dodged that one.

    INPieman · 08/04/2017 at 07:35

    Will be the most popular trade in history

    Chief · 08/04/2017 at 15:23

    It's a done deal. Thanks for the input.

Shane · 08/04/2017 at 03:10

Taranto, Butler or Hannan on field this week?

    INPieman · 08/04/2017 at 07:41

    Tough call. But I'd say Taranto

Ben · 08/04/2017 at 05:48

I have one trade left this week.
Smith/Hibberd in DEF. Should I hold for next week?
Is it worth Strnadica to Preuss or hold?
Other trade is Tuohy to Laird/Docherty?

    INPieman · 08/04/2017 at 07:34

    Hold for Newman next week ben

    hedski · 08/04/2017 at 09:57

    Why trade Tuohy?

Timmy · 08/04/2017 at 09:06

Who is more important to bring in this week, Nank or Marchbank? Going to do Bowes – Houston but tossing up between doing either O'meara – Nankervis and do Smith – Newman next week, or Smith – Marchbank and go Hibberd to Newman next week.
Which should i do community?

    Kim · 08/04/2017 at 10:56

    Nank will be toward keeper, marchy is a good stepping stone player. Depends on your structures but I would go nank out of the 2 of them.

Krups · 08/04/2017 at 09:32

Got hibberd on the ground and will loophole Newmans 105. But should I swap Stewart for Otten? Will Otten make more cash than Stewart? I cant trade Hibberd now as I want Newmans 105 score this week.

    hedski · 08/04/2017 at 09:58

    Hold Stewart Krups

    BlakeyP · 08/04/2017 at 12:09

    hold

TigerMan · 08/04/2017 at 10:04

I only have 3 Vice Captain options this week. Either Josh Kelly (GWS) ave 112, Dustin Martin (RIC) ave 138, Josh J Kennedy (WCE) ave 128………..who should I pick? Thinking Kelly will have a big game. I Want to go Martin but risky with a fractured cheek/helmet this week. Thoughts People?

    Nick · 08/04/2017 at 12:01

    Dusty

Joshua farrugia · 08/04/2017 at 13:00

have done WHE to Roughead, do i go Strnadica to Witts or Preuss, Pickett or Parfitt to Houston or just hold.

Ben · 08/04/2017 at 13:07

Start Hannan or Taranto?

    Mich · 08/04/2017 at 13:35

    Taranto

Nicholas · 08/04/2017 at 13:21

Pickett or Partfitt out for Butler?

Randomcliche2 · 08/04/2017 at 20:14

Hannan owners, if told you he was going to outscore Gawn you would have taken that score yeah? FML.

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