SuperCoach RD3: Trade Table
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I can trade in both WHE and Houston but would only leave me 20K on bench? Do we need to have cash reserves or should we get the best rookies? I have tarintino but if he is named then I don't wish to trade him.
I've always thought go hard on getting the right rookies prior to the price rise. Points are number one priority, but you need early cash to get the premos in quickly to get those points. Houston in for me, also holding Taranto if named. WHE, in two minds as he will empty my reserves and still expect a couple of cheaper rookies to generate the same amount of cash over the next six rounds. Tough call on WHE.
Yeah I am torn on WHE as I already used a trade last week for Roo to Buddy. I am thinking unless tarintino gets dropped I might only make the one trade of Houston. That will still give me 120K on the bench.
I also have Pepper Pig, Otten, Marchbank, Preuss, Stewart, Butler and hampton so have some good rookies already.
Correctional trade. Oliver in for Crouch – Crouch is already facing a 111 b.e. As my breakout pick at 500k I would have liked him to have a fast start to push his price up while Adelaide's mids have injuries (B. Crouch, ScottyT).
Oliver looking at a rise of 50k this week and another ton against Geelong this week will see his price rising further.
Did you pick Crouch as a keeper or stepping stone? If a keeper, then is Oliver a keeper? If as a stepping stone, the trade looks to be a better option.
I picked Crouch as the next SC beast as discussed in the mag. I didn't think of him as a top 10 mid keeper, more a handy M9-11 with a 105-110 average. Oliver has exceeded Crouch's stats and is almost 120k less.
His contested possessions, clearances, and tackles are SC friendly. Handballs a lot, but unlike Treloar he's hitting his targets by foot
Talked yourself into the trade, haven't you?
Classic Chacing points trade.
Is that a bad thing? Gaining 120k on a trade for a guy who is doing better SC/stats wise than what I currently have? Saltshaker mentioned Gawn hitting it down to him, who I rate much higher than Jacobs.
Yeah I was thinking of doing the same trade but your burning a trade because at the end they'll average about the same crouch maybe a little higher, because Lewis has been copping the tag and helping Oliver get the ball and Viney has been terrible and I'm thinking he'll take his points just back your selections mate crouch will come good
Ruck/mid combo is overrated for SC scoring tho. Look at Viney last year, meh.
If you think Oliver will make enough cash to justify a trade (eg 100-150k+ depending what you think a trade is worth) then go for it.
kev not a bad trade, you make $120k and a +30sc (currently i dont expect this to stay this way its only 2 games) but still currently kinda ticks those 2 boxes for 1 trade, so to me the question THEN becomes are either going to be top 10 mids at years end? id say no, so thats 2 trades required so halve that trade benefit. Now its just a normal trade, youll get more from rookies in 4 weeks than you get oliver or you can upgrade to a top 8mid save a trade and get +10sc a week over oliver most weeks. He is avg 126..do you think that will go up or down by years end? im predicting by 20ppg at least.
In your favour Gawn has said Oliver becoming his #1 go to guy. Will he start earning more attention as a result?
Lets look at their runs Melb have 2 at mcg 2 at Docklands = not bad could be 3w 1loss
However Crouch gets 4 at home Ade Oval, can you back him in a month and upgrade him in a month to Pendles and get on 2 best rookies this week
Worth noting that Crouch plays his 50th this week. Am tipping him to have a big game.
I think a Correctional trade would be to a genuine premo rather than a to a midpricer, I have Crouch to & he's a worry just with his lack of kicking but I can'y see him averaging less than Oliver by seasons end.
If you want to get rid of Crouch why not M Murphy? As he is more a keeper than Oliver?
Hibberd or EVW out for marchbank and Ryder or roughead out for WHE.
Hibberd probably to go over EVW because i believe EVW is next in line for a a game
Leaning to get rid of ryder over rough because roughy's breakeven is lower and roughy will have a blinder against gold coast
I'd wait for Newman, Ryan, Long and Berry
Don't be surprised if Ryder jumps all over Jacobs too and has a blinder, whilst WHE is suffocated at the SCG… this is how the SC gods roll sometimes 🙂
D. Cameron out for Witts
OR
D. Joyce out for Otten?
Joyce is on the rookie list, Carlos. Haven't heard anything about him getting upgraded and I'm not sure that Saints even have a spot available.
Cameron a chance at getting named this week with Tippett injured
I reckon he had the green light first round and lots of people got him mistakenly!
He was injured, probably would have had it
Mountford -> Houston via dpp
J. Smith -> otten
Thoughts community ?
Sounds good to me. Much greater cash generation.
Yep – Do it and lock it in FREDDY FORESKIN…
No Brainer!
We can't trust Higgins can we?
I don't.
I do and I'm banking his points. Higgins will be a top 6 forward this year
Till we all hear Twang
As much as you could trust Wells last season.
Butler or Houston
Both!
Butler has little better JS right now while Houston is playin a more friendly SC roll. Points over JS?
Butler looks to have better JS. Maybe Wait and see if Houston gets picked in same side as pittard.
Not sure whysome people are going o'meara to swallow they are going to make a similar amount of money… Oliver may make it a week or two quicker but ur wasting a trade to get him
i know its so stupid but i have done it, i have all the cashcow rookies and just love the look the oliver was going to punt on him pre but missed it, but have somehow just talked myself into it, i want him and wont get close to the price
Oliver will average 10-15 more than O'Meara & 20 more than Swallow, so it's not the worst punt…
Taranto to WHE?
Taranto to WHE is a great move. Taranto is a flog, won't make half the amount that WHE makes this season.
The crap some people feed others on here is unreal, I would get rid of Taranto ASAP, Taranto has a breakeven of 0 and is projected to rise $26k – While WHE has a breakeven of -85 and is projected to rise $65k not to mention he will rise another 30k+ next week also – While Taranto will rise around 10k next week and will then start losing cash.
So your saying the 60k extra he'll make over the next two weeks makes it worthwhile. Borderline for mine, I'm thinking it's a maybe but it's for the points not the cash that I'm thinking this. Remember how precious those trades are at the end of the year….
I'm saying first and foremost that WHE is a shit load better and will generate you (a) More points each week compared to Taranto and (b) WHE will make you a shit load more cash compared to Taranto.
Getting extra cash this year is a HUGE bonus due to the lack of rookies, its pretty simple really.
Check the team sheets out the rookies are coming, short term I agree with both your points but long term (as in end of season looking back) just saying we might look back and wish we'd saved that trade rather than made the extra 60-100k.
Fwiw I would have done the trade but needed march bank more structure wise so did Taranto march instead…..
If that's your only trade then yes just for the fast cash.
thinking of trading out c ward and pickett
to another pod and WHE
If so ward to ?? or just better sit tight
Keep Ward. If you can trade Pickett to Houston/Butler/Hannan then do so
What's wrong with Ward? The only time I'd trade him is if he was injured, HOLD
Thoughts on this… lynch to Higgins and the upgrade
Witts to my bench. Seeing as though
There aren't many good rookies.
Do it
Do I back Hannebery in?
Thoughts? Can someone convince me why I should or shouldn't trade him?
I'm thinking of keep him..
I figure Hanners in about 10% of teams & I expect a large number to jump ship making him a POD.
I also expect him to turn it around. Sure he may lose $150k or more but that's when everyone will jump on him.
That means it could very well cost me two trades
Keep him. I'll be looking to pick him up through the bye rounds. It's DAN HANNEBERY we're talking about here.
I've got him and I'm torn as well. I haven't seen him play this year but from the sounds of it, he's nowhere near his best.
Last year, I had Sloane and Jelwood in my mids, both stunk it up first couple rounds so I wanted to switch 'em both out. I couldn't because of rookie corrections but did give Sloane the axe. He ended up 13th best mid for the year (playing 21 games) and Selwood ended up 7th best mid. Should have kept both as the trade would have come in handy for anything else.
Hanners only in 10%! With all the howling you would think it was 90%
It was probably 30% at the start of the week
I'll tell you an interesting fact. Hannebery averaged the 6th most points per game in 2015 and 2016 out of all the players. And you're thinking of trading him out…
Is that you Dan?
The rumour is that Houston will be out this week. ( from SEN ) .
Not in my team yet.. but was planning it. Thank god for that reverse button if it does eventuate.
Was looking at him too, bugger.
Houston we have a problem?!
Tim Smith not far from getting a game at Melbourne…. The rookies are coming.
J. Steele out of WHE?
I have Steel and will be holding he did score 113 in first round and spent most of round 2 on the bench. Also WHE is playing swans this week so he could come out with a 50 not worth the trade. Also saints have 9 out of next 11 games at ES where he is suited better I reckon.
awful
crazy talk
No
would love some feedback!
I can either trade Hannebery to a proven premo and miss out on getting Otten; or
I can Hold Hannebery and trade in Otten.
Thoughts?
Rookies are priority, hold Hannebery
The only way i can get WHE in, is either by trading Roughead or Taranto?
Trading Roughead leaves me with 220k in the bank
Thoughts Community?????????
I would hold roughie I don't see any benefit in going roughie to WHE, if tarintino is dropped then trade to WHE.
Roughead missed a year of footy he is not going that badly I reckon he can still average 90 for the year.
Lift Gaz!
Hold Gaz. They are not injured and will make more cash.
Option 1 – Roughead out for WHE and Joel smith out for Marchbank, frees up $40,000. Option 2 – Sandilands out for Witts and smith out for Marchbank.
Option 1. Sandi will be a more likely to churn out a 100 every other week and will make more $
Option 1. Sandilands is more likely to average more than Roughead for the time being
Thinking of trading out Callum mills for Jason johannisen and also Simpkin who has done stuff all to Butler. I know I don't have to trade but feel these corrections need to be done, thoughts please? Particularly on mills
I think it's a reasonable call Peter on Mills. If you look at the write up on the winner last year, his first 3 trades could all be classed as corrective. I can't see things changing materially for Mills given his role, whether JJ is the right one to go to I don't know. Adams, Howe, J Lloyd all at similar or lower prices look valid selections.
Simpkin to Butler I would hold fire. There are several other rookie options coming (e.g. Hayward from Sydney who is a FWD and looked awesome last week). May as well take whatever cash Simpkin has made then trade to a rookie on the bubble in a future week. I don't think Butler is a must have.
I'd get butler in this week. Will rise in value big time. Also the 1 game rookies might stink it up in their second game
With Simpkin now not playing I'd have to agree!
Mills was the only young breakout midpricer who i went with this year. i rate him very high. He will be 100% midfield by year end , but in the meantime (Mcveigh out) he won't be getting much time there.
I'm trading him out this week as my only trade.
You're a brave man sticking by Cyril – it's bang bang for me!
Hannebery to Bont
Ablett to Nankervis
Thoughts?
hanneberry to Bont makes sense… I am thinking the same with Parker.. The Bont looks like he could have a Dangerfield year and Parker looks to be carrying an injury…
I would hold on the last. See how Gary goes this week… he will be stung by the criticism and loves Hawthorn to boot….
also if you trade out a keeper you want a keeper in return
Well I'm thinking nank will be a keeper in the fwds
Means playing Taranto in the midfield
what other ruckmen do Tigers have to come back? when
yes Hampson is the risk whenever he is fit.. not sure when due back..
Personally I dont see nankervis as a keeper
the other consideration is that yes nank the hank is scoring well but they have won 2 games.. how will he score when they lose which is a formality as its Richmond… Beating Collingwood and Carlton doesnt necessary smack of top 8 material to me..
premo to premo, premo to mid-price. Makes not a lot of sense
"Gee I wonder what's going on there, in the brain department". A Brian Taylor quote which sums up those trades
Roughy to WHE and Joel Smith to Marchbank
OR
Roughy to Oliver via dpp and Pickett to Houston
Definitely Option 1. I am making same trade.
Houston not Guaranteed ToPlay play
Yet
dunno which is better, bring in otten and have him sit on the bench at D7 or bring in butler/houston and play him at F6
One trade for me this week.
J.Smith OUT (L.T.I.), Swing Hibberd to DEF, Swing Picket to Mid and WHE IN.
Believe this is a better move than a sideways TT to WHE.
Resisting the temptation to trade Ryder out for the Nank.
Thoughts appreciated community.
yep
Wish I had the $$ to do that trade.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Had the $'s but nearly all gone on the WHE trade.
But, as suggested above, going to the Nank puts half the $ back in the warchest.
Just trying to justify the move.
J.LT. The Nank 89 129 89 and then 114 and 124 in the first two rounds against quality ruck men but average teams.
Hmm JLT Ric V Port – Nank 129 and Ryder 66 (with a bit less game time) Significant?
Trade out Ablett, Taranto
Trade in Murphy, Oliver.
Get 2 premo scorers at cheap price, keepers. Sacrifice Ablett?
well you've sacrificed an ultra premo for 2 mid pricers
i don't mind SMurph, he is a fallen premium. in a year where we will be short on cash, he might just end up your M8 out of necessity.
Breakout midpricers very rarely work. Oliver might be different but i doubt it
Fun risk to take. I like it.
I'm going NRoo to WHE this week. It gives me a few more weeks to evaluate Taranto and Florent, the lesser of which I will trade for NRoo after he plays one game injury free.
Sound good?
Word is Roo will play. What now?
how about we read previous comments before posting the same questions over and over again
That's been going on all week
and next week will be all about Newman! lol
Posted a couple of days ago but didn't get a reply.
Can you let me know what you would do?
Will depend on selection I guess but traded Roo down last week to get cash to bring in Marchbank and WHE this week.
Florent or Bowes to WHE?
Bench Hannan/Butler
Stewart/Otten/Gutherie to Marchbank?
If I trade Gutherie loose my captain loophole.
What would you do esp in defence?
I'd go Bowes to WHE & Guthrrie to Marchbank. Otten & Stewart are on the bubble. I assume you mean the Cats Guthrie by the way. I wouldn't be too concerned about losing captain loophole. Guaranteed another rookie will be dropped shortly
Personally I'd go Florent to WHE, bench Hannan and then trade Guthrie for Marchbank, at this point of the season a captains loophole is 100% needed as Danger is a solid captain option week in – week out
Isn't 100% needed***
Should Lynch (Suns) be traded or held. Sideways trade for JJK and then pick up Lynch after early bye for cheaper.
Wastes 2 trades if trade him out then get him back in later. Hold and perhaps pick up JJK around the byes. JJK will drop in price too. He was on like 19 SC points at half time only got to 82 because he kicked 4 second half goals
Done and done!
Hold, you picked him for a reason
Thoughts on roughie to whe??
Read the other 16583599 comments exactly the same
agree. getting a little tired
I'm keeping Lynch for this week, dropping 2 underwelming rookies and putting in 2 that are not only performing but will add (according to Footywire) $140,000 to my team. If Lynch drops his strides again then bye bye and hello Budwiser.
Anyone else not jumping on WHE and Marchbank?
I started with WHE and am certainly not jumping on marchbank
didn't start with WHE but started with Marchbank. Will only bring in WHE if one of my rookies is dropped, I think
i think anyone who started with both need to sit back and nod their head a little. tell their wives how clever they are and have a drink to celebrate.
good luck if you started with them, hard to jump on now unless you have a Smith who is done and $100k cash. any other messing with structure is not good idea.
there will be other WHE and Marchbanks to come along
+1
I started with both Derek. Tonight I'll be sitting on my recliner sipping a glass of cognac & stroking a white cat
Ditto, Pie. Guess we're pretty clever…
Spot on.. luckily I'm one nodding their head.
Still got other headaches like Do I bring in Hannan for Mountford
I have neither BrownlowBoy. Wouldn't mind Marchbank but it's going to cost me 2 trades.
Praying my rookies (Otten, Hampton, Stewart) get me to the bye rounds.
i think there are a few nice Defence rookies not far away from games.
Berry, Ryan, Scharenberg, Long…plus Newman who has played 1
marchbank has been ok, but both weeks he could easily have scored 50, i thought his score was good considering the games he had. imo
A new wave of rookies is coming. There's no need to do anything rash & stuff up your structure
Nope
No to WHE, yes to Marchbank, had $$$ to trade in for Smith.
I didn't start with either, have saved roughly $160 000, my thoughts are this money saved, will turn 2 premiums into ultra premiums. The money made on my cheaper rookies, should also grow to the same amount, maybe a bit slower, and I may loose a few points early. But 'tis a long season, and I want the ultra premos. I'm backing this theory in, hopefully it pays off.
Have most of the rooks except Butler Houston WHE. Thinking of going:
Smith -》 WHE via dpp
Simpkin -》 Butler
keep simpkin
agreed, keep Simpkin unless he's dropped
I've got $114K in the bank. Thinking of upgrading Pickett to WHE and then downgrading Aaron Hall to Murphy which will give me that money back. After this round Hall and Murphy will be worth approx the same and I don't trust Aaron Hall as far as I can kick him. Thoughts?
i would go Hall to WHE (via Pickett)
Pickett to WHE is perfect.
However, not too sure about Hall to Murphy. You would have to have an almost perfect set of rookies to consider swapping Hall as it is a luxury trade and not a necessity.
What mid-pricers and rookies do you have Damo?
Backline is- Otten, Hampton, Stewart, Smith.
Mid- Steele, SPP, Barrett, Pickett, Hibberd
Witts in the ruck
Fwd- Taranto, Butler, Eddy, Parfitt
Hmmm decent set of rookies, Houston only good rookie missing. Maybe its just me, but the Hall –> Murphy trade just doesn't sit right. However there is every chance I am proven wrong.
I hear you. I've been racking my brain about it all week. Just have a sick feeling he is going to burn me, and I lik the comfort of having a bit of cash in the bank making it easier to get premiums when it's time. Dilemmas…. thanks for your help and feedback.
I can see why you'd want to trade Hall, his lack of desire to play any defence worried me on the weekend, I just think you need to go up from Hall (Bont, Selwood etc.) instead of down to Murphy.
Obviously this would need cash, so maybe if Hall continues to play like last week, than find some funds in the next couple of weeks and upgrade.
No problems mate
Sorry and Marchbank of course
Sweet! im in the same boat…trades done thanks Damo
Hibberd – WHE (Via DPP) I knew that bank of cash would come in handy.
Need some help with the following:
1. P.Cripps – Trade to Oliver/Murphy or hold.
2. J.Smith – Hannan
3. Strandica – Witts (bench cash cow) and hold J.Smith for loophole.
All will probably change come team selection but need to have a plan.
I like option 3 out of the ones you have suggested
Like to know everyone's thoughts on this idea.
As WHE and Witts are not keepers they are therefore in to make money; if by round 9 I believe Witts will rise in value more than WHE, is he a better trade in option even if he is a bench player and WHE would be on field
Depends what you care about. Yes money is important but by having $200k+ on bench in R3 and playing someone like Butler/Pickett etc on field you'll be losing 30-50 points per week making it hard for overall/H2H wins.
no because you will struggle to trade down to another rookie ruck when you sell him. Where WHE there will be plenty of rookie downgrade options
To get Witts in I have moved Strndica to the Fwd Line, therefore when I trade Witts out I can trade him to a forward rookie or even mid rookie depending on dpp.
Does this change anything Derek?
Thoughts on downgrading Dahlhous to Roughead so I can upgrade Murphy to Dangerfield?
silly on both counts
Danger is essential but surely not for Murphy! Dahlhaus is as much a keeper as anyone in the game with his FWD eligibility. So you'll just have to suck it up for a few weeks and build towards Danger from a O'Meara / Swallow type.
april fool joke for sure
Yup. Nice piece of bait.
Haha Bad trades
If you do those trades, you're username says it all
In a predicament and need some advice,
I do not have WHE and to get him in I would need to go down one of the following paths.
1. Roughead to WHE
2. Taranto to WHE, but would have to swing Dahl to mid, meaning SPP would be on bench.
Im thinking option one as i dont want to have SPP sitting on pine and having to play an extra rookie in FWD line.
OR i could just hold and miss out on WHE?
Thoughts?
Ohhhhh that is bad….. maybe option 2 would be best in the long run BUT SPP on the bench will give you less points now. I say leave it because Jock says that Roughy shouldn't be traded out and WHE may be a dud for the rest of the season
Parsons upgraded to senior list for Geelong – not Guthrie as many expected.
Stealing Parfitts spot maybe?
Hey lads. Need some advice.
Should I trade eddy up to WHE??
eddy's js seems shite. This would firm up my starting fwds. Leaving butler and Hanan on the bench.
Butler is good enough to be a starter so I say leave it eddy will generate more cash than WHE
Sideways trade of Roughead to Nankervis?
I'd being holding personally
Hard one but I wouldn't waste a trade. You will either regret it because Nank will score big and you won't be able to afford him or Roughy will score big when you trade him or you will need that trade later on. I'd personally do it though
What do we do with Houston if he is dropped?
I already have Hannan, Butler, Eddy, pickett, parfitt and cant afford to go to WHE
You could bring in Preuss if he plays… but I'd just hold him even if he isn't named
T Boyd to Preuss…for cash
Then bowes to heppel..keeper
If Boyd is on field than absolutely not, Preuss could be dropped any minute
Also a keeper is usually someone that will finish at least Top 15 in their position if not higher and Heppell will not be in that position come R23
He might be. I don't have Heppell, but I like him
I do agree preuss is only a bad game away from being dropped again as he was after the first game only to get a last minute recall and pull out a great game – without Goldy (who is back in)
Boyd to Witts
I have J Steven and not unhappy to be effectively forced into trading him because probably would have pulled the trigger anyway… I am convinced Bont is going to be top 8 and maybe higher, but I don't like his round 11 bye – especially as I have 4 other premos with round 11 byes. Is this a valid reason not to pick him?
Dusty has a round 12 bye and is around the same price, but feel Bont might be a bit more consistent week to week because he's in a stronger team. Could go to Zerret or Pendles (both round 13 byes), but feel there's going to be better opportunities to buy them cheaper. Pendles is virtually guaranteed consistent scoring though.
Views?
Don't worry about Pendles becoming cheaper, he's a gun ultra-premo so price isn't a major issue. If he works with your bye structure, get him in.
Cheers mate – might need to stop trying to be smart and pick the next big thing and just go with the proven Prince!
Don't let the bye rounds fool you into not picking good players. Supercoach is like America, you can go to the store and buy guns whenever you feel, referring to Bont. If they get jammed you fix it (wait over the bye) and go back to hunting for that supercoach 50,000. It mightn't make a lot of sense BUT take advantage of it even though it might stuff your team for one round. And H2H would be better for the other two rounds
Should I do Hickey to Witts and bank the cash, Hickey to Stefan Martin or hold? Went a POD with Hickey and after a 44 against Gawn and 98 against no WCE ruckman I am stuck
Depends who your other ruckman is. If you have a proven quality ruck already (Gawn, Goldy, Grundy) then I would go Hickey to Witts. If you have Sandi, then I would be inclined to trade into a proven ruckman rather than Witts.
Either trade if good. With Witts you will be trading him out with Martin you'd have him as a keeper.
HOWEVER, both might be somewhat effected soon with Archie Smith (for Bris) and Currie (for GCS) pushing up for selection.
IF Smith is named this week I'd suggest going Witts and generate cash until the byes then trade to someone like Grundy Gawn etc, Or if you can get Grundy now do that instead
I have the same issue with Hickey but if we put it into perspective he has had one bad week. Should we really trade him already? I think I will hold despite the fact there are other options that I have that could generate me big $$$. I wouldn't waste a trade just yet.
Hockey was always a trap. He didn't get as many hitouts because he wasn't good enough. That ruck rule didn't change anything. But now that you have him down to Witts is a good cash gen and scoring option
Mitchell Hibberd > Ben Ainsworth.
Darcy Cameron > Dan Houston (pending team announcements)
I wouldn't bring in Ainsworth, get WHE, Butler, Houston or Hannan instead of Ainsworth.
Got me all except Hannan mate
What are people's views on trading Roughy to WHE? Is it crazy talk? Is it worth it at this early stage to free up some cash?
C'mon man. There's a million questions/replies on this exact player combo. Just read up and you'll be suitably responded to..
I'd Hold
If you don't have enough cash to get to Grundy, I'd personally go for Witts and bank the cash
One correction trade this round. Rookies are ok. Keeping Roo. Sandilands to Witts. Always going to trade Sandi and Witts will get to my cash growth limit quicker and more likely to generate more points along the way.
*the 120 will be there this week and next = $$
Do I trade M. Hibberd and/or D. Mountfod? if so who do I trade in? Hibberd is in the backline and mountfod midfield
Who are your other rookies?