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Round 2 is now in the books, and for many of us, it wasn’t the best round of Supercoach we could have hoped for.

There’s a lesson to be learnt in everything though and Round 2 had plenty to teach us about Supercoach. About not chasing rookie scores after just one week and about not throwing a rookie on the scrap heap after just one poor score either. And this rule doesn’t apply just to rookies either, this is a lesson that can be taught across all price ranges when it comes to Supercoach.

I’m sure for a few of us it’s thrown in a healthy dose of confusion as well, with injured players making way for rookies who performed well, but may have iffy job security, as well as others who are widely picked, but looking to be hanging on to their spot in the 22 by the skin of their teeth.

We’re going to go around again and take a look at every rookie player who went out there in Round 2, hopefully we can make a clear path to finding the golden rookies of 2017.

Collingwood VS Richmond

Will Hoskin-Elliot

FWD | SC Price: $213,300

Round 2 Stats: 21 disposals, 8 marks, 3 goal, 120 SCPoints, 124 CKPoints

Dan Butler

FWD | SC Price: $123,900

Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 3 marks, 1 goal, 65 SCPoints, 59 CKPoints

Will Hoskin-Elliot has become the man on every Supercoachers lips and #1 on their must have lists after his game here. He was massive pushing up and down the wing and booted 3 goals in a tight game was the icing on the cake for his game.

Dan Butler had less of an impact than in Round 1, but 65 SCPoints is still a decent return if you played him at F6, so I still consider starting him again in Round 3.

Western Bulldogs VS Sydney

Harrison Marsh

DEF | SC Price: $238,700

Round 2 Stats: 7 disposals, 1 mark, 31 SCPoints, 15 CKPoints

Nic Newman

DEF | SC Price: $123,900

Round 2 Stats: 16 disposals, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 73 SCPoints, 77 CKPoints

Robbie Fox

MID/FWD | SC Price: $ 102,400

Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 3 tackles, 44 SCPoints, 37 CKPoints

Oliver Florent

MID/FWD | SC Price: $166,800

Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 44 SCPoints, 49 CKPoints

Will Hayward

FWD | SC Price: $ $121,800

Round 2 Stats: 16 disposals, 3 marks, 6 tackles, 6 inside 50’s, 82 CKPoints, 74 CKPoints

Nic Newman and Will Hayward were the big starts here on debut, both racking up quality SC scores for their games. Defence is particularly thin this year, so I imagine more than a few Joel Smith owners will be picking Newman up next week. Hayward did some quality work across half forward/wing, pumping the ball inside 50 6 times and applied some needed forward pressure, with 4 of his 6 tackles being inside 50, as well as 22 pressure acts for the game. He also had 455 metres gained, which was 3rd best for the Swans.

Oliver Florent was good in the 1st half, but could only record 4 disposals in the 2nd, which meant his score stagnated after half time. He did have 29 pressure acts, which was 2nd best for the Swans, so his spot should (hopefully) be safe.

Hawthorn VS Adelaide

Ryan Burton

DEF/FWD | SC Price: $254,600

Round 2 Stats: 26 disposals, 9 marks, 4 tackles, 104 SCPoints, 112 CKPoints

Teia Miles

MID/FWD | SC Price: $123,900

Round 2 Stats: 15 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 47 SCPoints, 54 CKPoints

Curtly Hampton

DEF | SC Price: $160,000

Round 2 Stats: 12 disposals, 1 mark, 10 tackles, 64 SCPoints, 66 CKPoints

Andy Otten

DEF | SC Price: $123,900

Round 2 Stats: 17 disposals, 4 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal, 108 SCPoints, 81 CKPoints

Jake Kelly

DEF | SC Price: $197,700

Round 2 Stats: 7 disposals, 1 mark, 24 SCPoints, 20 CKPoints

Riley Knight

DEF | SC Price: $197,700

Round 2 Stats: 16 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 3 goal assists, 61 SCPoints, 69 CKPoints

Andy Otten may have given himself another week (at a minimum) with an injury to Josh Jenkins forcing the Crows to swap Otten into a forward/ruck role for the majority of the game against the Hawks. His lack of speed wasn’t as much of a hindrance forward, he took a few nice grabs, kicked a goal and passed off a few too.

It’s unknown how long Jenkins will be out, I would suspect JJ may miss a fortnight and Otten should keep his spot, but the Crows could also go for a like for like replacement by debuting the 198cm, 104kg Harry Dear (Kicked 40 goals in the SANFL in 2016, AVG 29 SCPoints in JLT).

Elsewhere Teia Miles made his debut for an OK result, but I suspect the Hawks may continue to play a few younger players if their current form continues.

Ryan Burton played his first game for 2017 and looked fantastic. It’s debatable if he can keep that pace up, but like Miles, we’ll still get another week to watch him. If he can put up the same sort of Gold Coast he might be an interesting buy. He’s only played the 1 game, so we can keep him under the microscope for another week.

Jake Kelly was generally poor with the ball in hand, he likely makes way for Jake Lever this week (though I doubt many own him anyway), while Curtly Hampton again didn’t find a ton of the ball, but made up for it with his defensive work (10 tackles and 30 pressure acts, as many as Charlie Cameron in 20 less minutes on the ground).

Finally, Riley Knight played just his 3rd AFL game in 2 years, he was a bit in and out of the game and he had 11 disposals to half time, but could only manage 1 disposal in the 3rd term and then 5 in the final quarter. That score is probably a minimum for him, so if he can continue to hit the scoreboard a bit he should have better results in him.

GWS VS Gold Coast

Tim Taranto

MID/FWD | SC Price: $207,300

Round 2 Stats: 15 disposals, 4 tackles, 3 goal assists, 75 SCPoints, 54 CKPoints

Jack Bowes

MID/FWD | SC Price: $171,300

Round 2 Stats: 7 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles, 26 SCPoints, 40 CKPoints

Ben Ainsworth

MID/FWD | SC Price: $198,300

Round 2 Stats: 10 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 64 SCPoints, 56 CKPoints

Jarrod Witts

RUC | SC Price: $217,600

Round 2 Stats: 17 disposals, 4 marks, 27 hitouts, 100 SCPoints, 90 CKPoints

Jarrod Witts may turn out to be the bargain buy of the ruck division, putting in a quality performance to hit a triple digit score. Even if that’s the max he’s pumping out, it’s still a useable score and one that will see him gain a significant amount of cash by the time his Round 9 bye comes along.

The other GC rookies, Jack Bowes and Ben Ainsworth were a mixed bag. Bowes got the very few possessions he did around the centre square, he just couldn’t get near it most times. His BE is already 9, which means he’ll still make some cash, but at his price we’d still want him to be in the negative BE area. Might be a strategic trade out if he’s not named next week. Ainsworth didn’t find a ton of the pill either, but still put out an OK score (in comparison to Bowes, Ainsworth’s BE is still -29).

Tim Taranto managed to put in a better performance in his 2nd game, putting up a healthy 75 SCPoints. He spent most of his time around the forward half of the ground, but he had 10 of his 15 possessions as contested and also had 8 score involvements, including 3 goal assists. Job security is always iffy for rookies at GWS, but hopefully that’s the new normal for Taranto in Supercoach.

West Coast VS St Kilda

Nathan Vardy

RUC | SC Price: $265,500

Round 2 Stats: 11 disposals, 2 marks, 1 goal, 20 hitouts, 79 SCPoints, 69 CKPoints

Patrick McCartin

FWD | SC Price: $240,400

Round 2 Stats: 12 disposals, 2 marks, 2 goals, 55 SCPoints, 64 CKPoints

Nathan Vardy continued to play a dual role up forward and in the ruck, putting up a quality score for him. I think sometimes people forget he’s only played 27 AFL games since 2011 due to mass amounts of injuries, so he’s the type that could still get better, despite being almost 26 years old. Still, not surprising only 4% of SCers own him, especially with Witts there at a cheaper price.

Patrick McCartin booted 2 goals, but could have had 5 if he hit all his shots. That’s the nature of key forwards though and that’s the risk you take if you pick them in Supercoach.

Brisbane VS Essendon

Jake Barrett

MID | SC Price: $127,900

Round 2 Stats: 11 disposals, 3 marks, 7 tackles, 50 SCPoints, 65 CKPoints

Andrew McGrath

DEF/MID | SC Price: $211,800

Round 2 Stats: 16 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 56 SCPoints, 65 CKPoints

Jake Barrett again spent most of his time in the forward half for the Lions, he only had the 11 disposals, but managed to display his defensive work we’d seen in the NEAFL with 7 tackles and 19 pressure acts (4th best on the ground). It’s yet to equal a big score for him, but he hasn’t been racking up the possessions, so that’s almost a good thing. At the moment he’s probably slipped into a bench role and one you’ll use as an emergency only though.

Andrew McGrath couldn’t replicate his Round 1 efforts. He’s playing across half back for the Bombers, so that’s a role that can be conducive towards scoring well in Supercoach. I’d keep him plugged in on my field as long as he’s playing.

Geelong VS North Melbourne

Tom Stewart

DEF | SC Price: $117,300

Round 2 Stats: 14 disposals, 2 marks, 60 SCPoints, 43 CKPoints

Brandon Parfitt

MID/FWD | SC Price: $117,300

Round 2 Stats: 11 disposals, 5 marks, 4 inside 50’s, 36 SCPoints, 51 CKPoints

Braydon Preuss

FWD | SC Price: $162,300

Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 4 marks, 5 tackles, 46 hitouts, 111 SCPoints, 105 CKPoints

Jy Simpkin

FWD | SC Price: $162,300

Round 2 Stats: 8 disposals, 1 goal, 2 tackles, 47 SCPoints, 44 CKPoints

If only it wasn’t for that pesky Todd Goldstein! Braydon Preuss was a late inclusion for Goldy and he looked fantastic taking the main ruck duties, and helped the Roos dominate the hitouts 54 to 21.

The big problem for the Roos now is what do they do with him if he’s healthy? He’s clearly good enough to play, but Goldstein is likely to play this week, so it probably comes down to Majak Daw VS Preuss in the end and if they want extra help in the ruck or up forward. Tough call!

Elsewhere, Tom Stewart looks like he may not be a world beater in Supercoach, but a consistent safety option, one we can count on to put up a 60 odd score each week. Not the worst thing in the world to have, he should continue to chug along for some time.

Brandon Parfitt did some nice things, but didn’t have a single contested possession and only 1 tackle. Obviously likes to get the easy stuff on the outside. He’ll need to do better if he’s to make us some cash.

Jy Simpkin booted 1.2, but playing so close to goals is never going to see guys rack up a ton of possessions. He looks like he might be playing the same sort of role they had Jed Anderson in last year, which saw him perform quite poorly in Supercoach (though a lot of that may have been due to Anderson himself).

Melbourne VS Carlton

Mitch Hannan

FWD | SC Price: $117,300

Round 2 Stats: 10 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 31 SCPoints, 32 CKPoints

Sam Weideman

FWD | SC Price: $219,400

Round 2 Stats: 9 disposals, 5 marks, 2 goals, 59 SCPoints, 54 CKPoints

Caleb Marchbank

DEF | SC Price: $236,100

Round 2 Stats: 16 disposals, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 82 SCPoints, 80 CKPoints

Harrison Macreadie

DEF | SC Price: $117,300

Round 2 Stats: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 55 SCPoints, 51 CKPoints

Sam Petrevski-Seton

MID | SC Price: $189,300

Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 51 SCPoints, 64 CKPoints

Jarrod Pickett

MID/FWD | SC Price: $123,900

Round 2 Stats: 9 disposals, 2 marks, 1 goal, 35 SCPoints, 49 CKPoints

Mitch Hannan, hero one week, villain the next, and the perfect example of why you don’t chase rookie scores after just one week. It’s hard to fault anyone who played him on field last week (maybe I’m just saying that cause I did!), but with Jesse Hogan suspended for the next two weeks, this may be a chance for him to take a larger load up forward and hit the scoreboard again.

Caleb Marchbank continues to be the pick of the defensive rookies, putting up another quality score. He was 2nd on the ground for intercept possessions with 8 and is averaging 10.5 over his two games. We’ll likely look to start him every week and if you don’t own him, you might want to see if you can grab him, even at his almost double rookie price his BE heading into this week is still -43.

Harrison Macreadie and Jarrod Pickett were a little bit better than Round 1, but still struggling to make a major impact. Pickett is the biggest worry, owned by 49% of all Supercoachers, he’s yet to look like he’s going to break out and put a score above 60 on the board.

Sam Petrevski-Seton again showed signs he could develop into a quality player, but doesn’t look to be on the level of a Sam Powell-Pepper just yet.

Port Adelaide VS Fremantle

Sam Powell-Pepper

FWD | SC Price: $135,300

Round 2 Stats: 25 disposals, 4 marks, 8 clearances, 90 SCPoints, 84 CKPoints

Dan Houston

FWD | SC Price: $117,300

Round 2 Stats: 18 disposals, 11 marks, 81 SCPoints, 99 CKPoints

Brett Eddy

FWD | SC Price: $102,400

Round 2 Stats: 11 disposals, 2 mark, 2 goals, 76 SCPoints, 68 CKPoints

Cam McCarthy

FWD | SC Price: $203,600

Round 2 Stats: 10 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 28 SCPoints, 43 CKPoints

Sam Powell-Pepper continues to be the midfield savior for our Supercoach sides, putting on a fantastic performance against the Dockers. He’ll be in his first Showdown this week, but doesn’t look the sort who’ll crumble under the pressure at all. If you’re one of the 33% of teams who don’t own him (why?), make him your #1 priority.

Dan Houston again put up a good score, though Jasper Pittard is due to have a fitness test this week, which could see Houston out, but you’d think they’d want to find a way to keep Houston in the side, so either Pittard plays in the SANFL for a couple of weeks, or Darcy Byrne-Jones will make way for Pittard’s return (Jared Polec is also under an injury cloud too).

A spot in the 22 may also be difficult for Brett Eddy to find, he was a late replacement for Hamish Hartlett, but managed to get in on the Fremantle demolition job, booting 2.3. He could lose his spot for the return of Hartlett, but there’s also Nathan Krakouer pushing for a spot too, if the Power decide to go for a smaller option.

ROOKIE POWER RANKINGS

DEFENDERS

1.Caleb Marchbank

2.Ryan Burton

3.Andy Otten

4.Andrew McGrath

5.Nic Newman

 

MIDFIELDERS

1.Sam Powell-Pepper

2.Ben Ainsworth

3.Andrew McGrath

4.Tim Taranto

5.Sam Petrevski-Seton

 

RUCKS

1.Jarrod Witts

2.Braydon Preuss

3.Nathan Vardy

 

FORWARDS

1.Will Hoskin-Elliot

2.Dan Houston

3.Dan Butler

4.Ryan Burton

5.Will Hayward

 

AROUND THE GROUNDS

VFL

The VFL season officially kicks off on the 8th, but we do have some information about the last round of VFL trial matches that occurred.

 

Northern Blues (Carlton)

Kristian JakschBooted 2 goals for the Blues as they defeated the Weribee Tigers by 23 points.

Harry McKay – McKay had just the 1 goal against the Tigers.

Andrew Gallucci – Booted 3 goals and had 12 disposals in his first match back since shoulder surgery.

 

Collingwood

Lachlan Keefe –

Matthew Scharenberg – Used loose in defence against Richmond’s VFL side, with the Pies VFL coach Jared Rivers noting “His aerial work was really strong and his decision with the ball in hand was really good”

Ben Crocker – Crocker booted 3 goals for the Pies and was named in their BOG by Collingwood Media.

 

Essendon

Aaron FrancisFrancis had 21 disposals, 8 marks and kicked a goal against Footscray.

Ben McNieceNamed BOG for the Bombers, the Cat B rookie had 23 disposals and 12 marks.

James StewartStewart finished with 2.2, along with 20 disposals and 10 marks.


Geelong

Aaron BlackBlack had 22 disposals, 6 marks and a goal.

Jermaine JonesPlayed his first VFL game since being drafted and had 10 touches and a goal.

 

Box Hill (Hawthorn)

James CousinsCousins had 28 disposals and 8 clearances.

 

Casey (Melbourne)

No rookie performances of note.

 

Werribee (North Melbourne)

Nick LarkeyBooted 3 goals for North.

Corey WagnerKicked 2 goals in the 2nd half.

 

Richmond

Mabior Chol – Went off at 3 quarter time with a concussion, but had kicked 2 goals prior to that.

 

Sandringham (St Kilda)

Sandringham have no further practice matches scheduled until the VFL season begins.

 

Footscray (Western Bulldogs)

No rookie performances of note

 

SANFL

Adelaide have played their final trial match before the regular SANFL season starts, taking on Norwood. Port Adelaide played their final trial match last week, so weren’t in action this week.

 

Adelaide

Harrison Wigg: Wigg had 22 disposals, 7 inside 50ms, 4 rebound 50ms, 4 marks, 3 clearances and 1 goal against Norwood. Continued his SANFL form of being one of the BOG’s for the Crows. May debut soon.

Hugh Greenwood: The Adelaide Reserves co-captain had 21 disposals, 6 clearances, 6 tackles, 5 rebound 50ms, 4 inside 50ms and a goal. Still on the rookie list, but the Crows now have two LTI’s for him to be brought up into.

Jordan Gallucci: The Crows 1st round draft pick this year had 17 disposals, 4 tackles, 3 inside 50ms and 2 clearances.

Jonathon Beech: Beech had 16 disposals, 7 marks, 2 rebound 50ms and 2 goals VS Norwood.

Myles Poholke: Poholke had 16 disposals, 5 marks, 4 inside 50ms, 3 clearances and a goal in a rotating mid/fwd role.

Dean Gore: Gore had just the 15 disposals, 4 marks and 2 clearances.

Ben Jarman: Jarman had 15 disposals, 4 clearances, 1 mark, 1 tackle and 1 goal in a half forward/wing role for the Crows.

Reilly O’Brien: Rob had 12 disposals, 19 hit-outs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 2 clearances and 2 goals.

Elliott Himmelberg: Himmelberg had 10 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 2 inside 50ms and 2 goals.

Paul Hunter: Hunter, one of the few Crows not to feature during the JLT series had 10 disposals, 12 hit-outs, 6 tackles, 2 marks, 2 clearances and 2 inside 50’s

Harry Dear: Dear had just the 10 disposals, 4 tackles, 2 marks and 2inside 50’s

Matthew Signorello: The lanky Sig had just the 8 disposals, 1 mark and 1 tackle.

 

NEAFL

Brisbane

Claye Beams – Beams had a good game with 15 disposals and 8 marks.

Matthew Hammelmann – He had just the 9 disposals, but booted 2 goals along with 4 marks.

Liam Dawson – Dawson had 21 disposals, 13 marks and 5 tackles against the Swans.

Jarrod BerryBerry led the way for the Lions in their 26 point win over the Sydney Swans reserves with 29 disposals and 12 marks.

Cedric CoxPlayed down back in the JLT series, he was forward more in the NEAFL, kicking 2 goals, along with 11 disposals, 3 marks and 5 tackles.

Alex WitherdenWitherden had 18 disposals, along with 7 marks.

Mitchell Hinge – Hinge had 22 disposals, 8 marks and 4 tackles.

Hugh McCluggage – The #3 pick in the draft, McCluggage booted a goal, along with 13 disposals, 6 marks and 7 tackles.

Josh ClaytonClayton had just the 13 disposals and 2 marks.

Jacob Allison – Allison had 20 disposals, 10 marks and 2 tackles.

Corey Lyons – Lyons had 24 disposals, 3 marks and 7 tackles for the Lions.

Blake GrewarGrewar had 24 disposals, 3 marks and 7 tackles in his first NEAFL match of the year.

Matthew Eagles – Eagles had 15 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles. Won the Recruit last year.

Oscar McInerneyPlayed 2nd ruck and forward, he booted 1 goal, along with 8 hitouts, 21 disposals, 4 marks and 5 tackles.

Jonathan FreemanBooted 3.2, along with 10 disposals and 3 marks.

 

Gold Coast

Rodney Eade didn’t sound too complimentary of his reserves side over the weekend, noting “The seconds didn’t play well today. We’ve got to reward players who have played well in the twos, unfortunately there wasn’t enough of them.” So a few underperforming Suns like Bowes may just keep their spots yet.

Jack Scrimshaw – The #7 pick in the draft, Scrimshaw only managed 5 disposals and 3 marks against the UWS Giants.

Will Brodie – Brodie had 20 disposals, along with 4 marks, 3 tackles and booted a goal.

Cameron Loersch – Loersch booted 1.2 and also had 12 disposals and 4 marks.

 

GWS

Will SetterfieldHuge match in his first NEAFL game of the year, grabbing 33 disposals, 11 marks, 4 tackles and booted 3.1

Aidan CorrCorr had 14 disposals and 5 marks against the Suns.

Tim MohrMohr had just the 13 disposals and 4 marks.

Harry PerrymanPerryman had 25 disposals, 7 marks and 3 tackles.

Isaac CummingCumming had just the 10 disposals and 5 marks.

Jeremy Finlayson

Zachary Sproule – Sproule started with a bang, booting 5.1, along with 15 disposals and 5 marks.

Jake SteinJack Stein had just the 8 disposals and 3 marks. Coming in as a Cat B rookie, he’ll take some time.

Daniel Lloyd – Lloyd had 25 disposals, 5 marks and 7 tackles in the UWS Giants 28 point win over the Gold Coast Suns reserves side.

Dawson SimpsonSimpson had 36 hitouts, along with 12 disposals and 3 tackles.

Matthew Kennedy – Back in the NEAFL after playing Round 1 in the AFL, Kennedy had 30 disposals, 3 marks, 7 tackles and kicked 1.1

Matthew Flynn – Flynn booted 3.2, with 10 disposals and 6 marks also on his stat sheet.

Lachlan Tiziani – Tiziani kicked 2.1 and also had 17 disposals and 3 marks.

 

Sydney

Michael Talia – Talia had just the 14 disposals, 2 marks and a tackle against the Lions.

Colin O’RiodanO’Riodan had just 16 disposals and 6 tackles.

Shaun Edwards – Edwards led the way for the Swans with 26 disposals and 10 tackles. Has spent plenty of time in the NEAFL before.

Jordan Foote – Foote booted 1.1, along with 20 disposals, 4 marks and 4 tackles.

Brandon JackJack had 23 disposals and 2 tackles against the Lions.

Jordan DawsonDawson led the goal kicking for the Swans with 3.1, along with 23 disposals, 4 marks and 4 tackles.

Tyrone Leonardis – Leonardis had 14 disposals, 2 marks and 5 tackles.

Darcy CameronCameron booted 2 goals, along with 12 disposals, 4 marks and 16 hitouts. Will potentially battle Sinclair for a spot to replace Tippett, with Sinclair kicked 2.2, along with 10 disposals and 14 hitouts.

Sam MurrayMurray had 14 disposals and 1 tackle.

Samuel FisherFisher had 18 disposals and 4 tackles in the Swans loss to the Lions.

 

WAFL

Peel Thunder (Fremantle)

The Dockers have struggled so far this year, so they’ve supposed to be looking to make a few changes this week, with Harley Balic looking to be the most likely inclusion after some strong form in the WAFL early in the season.

Griffin Logue – Logue had 18 disposals, 7 marks and 3 tackles in the Peel Thunders 43 point loss to South Fremantle.

Harley Balic – Balic had a Peel high 29 possessions, along with 11 marks and 4 tackles. He’s averaging 31 disposals and 5 marks over his 3 WAFL games so far this year and is a 123K MID/FWD in Supercoach.

Sean DarcyDarcy had 35 hitouts, along with 12 disposals and 4 marks.

Luke Strnadica – Strnadica had just the 12 disposals, along with 2 marks and 8 hitouts.

Luke Ryan – Played in his first WAFL match of the year after an ankle injury, Ryan had 17 disposals, 4 marks and 5 tackles.

 

East Perth (West Coast)

Will SchofieldSchofield kicked a goal, along with 18 disposals and 9 marks.

Fraser McInnesMcInnes took main ruck duties for East Perth, with 31 hitouts, along with 17 disposals, 7 tackles and 1 goal.

Daniel VenablesVenables, the Eagles 1st round pick this year, had 13 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles and kicked a goal in his first WAFL match of the year.

Francis WatsonWatson led the way for East Perth with 30 disposals, 6 marks and 5 tackles in their 10 point loss to Swan Districts.

Luke PartingtonPartington had 25 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles for East Perth.

Jordan SnaddenSnadden had 24 disposals, 8 marks and 4 tackles.

Tom LambAfter booting 5 goals last week Lamb could only convert 1.3, along with 16 disposals and 8 marks.

And that’s it for the rookie wrap up this week. Any questions or comments? Whack ‘em in the section below, or hit me up on 

Twitter: @BarronVonCrow

241 Comments

Confused · 04/04/2017 at 09:56

Should I trade in Butler/Stewart or wait for Hawyward/Newman next week, have Hibberd, Mountford and Smith not playing. Also got good rookies like WHE etc. already

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 10:23

    I'd bring in Butler/ Stewart get those price increases happening sooner and next week you could still bring in 1 or even both depending on your situation

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 12:26

    Good thing is Swans play Friday night so can get another look at Newman/Hayward.
    If goes well can wait till on the bubble next week to upgrade if not u can pull the trade trigger on Sat.

Fred · 04/04/2017 at 09:59

Gday fellas, excellent article. Anyone know how long it should take to receive an email after winning a prize in play at home coachkings? Cheers.

Randomcliche2 · 04/04/2017 at 10:00

Barron, a power of work as always! Love the balanced and insightful commentary, especially on Hannan. Tough pick between him and Houston. Have you got a strong view either way?

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 10:21

    I'd be going Houston

      BrownlowBoy · 04/04/2017 at 10:25

      Does Houston have as good job security though?

        INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 10:50

        It's tough to pick Houston. Almost need a guarantee from Hinkley he's going to keep playing him. Port's injury list is short & plenty of players in form & guns returning. Real tough one. I'm most likely passing on Houston & Hannan

          Randomcliche2 · 04/04/2017 at 12:24

          Thanks all, Youngy, Danger and Pieman. Doesn't feel good either way….just name Mountford and solve my problems 🙂

        Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 12:48

        Don't bank too heavily on Hannan js. Kent and a few others not far away. They'll rest hannan soon then bring him back later for another two or three game stint

SC2017 · 04/04/2017 at 10:02

Don't have cash for straight Tarantino > WHE trade. So would need to dump Pickett for Hannan.

With Hogan out for a couple of weeks this gives Hannan added JS & potentially more footy going through him. And I like the look of him, and I think Dees do too – they played him without any JLT games.

But obviously his score of 31 last round is a concern. But BE of -59 is handy!!

Thoughts?

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 10:20

    That 100 he scored will only stay in his price cycle for one round, so it will not have much effect on his price, be careful don't want to bring him in and see him pump out 30's every week

    Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 12:54

    I'm with the Young man on this. I don't see the dees looking to Hannan to step up in Hogans absence, that responsibility will land elsewhere. Probably more fwd role for Watts and the weed. THat means they bring in Spencer which alters the structure big time. Who knows where Hannan fits in all that. Roles could change big time including Max Gawn if Spencer does go in which is my bet. Wait for selection here

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:26

    hannans mature age , he'll come goood

Derek · 04/04/2017 at 10:09

Otten is a tough one. Didn't start with him as I worried about JS. Has a very tempting BE now, will only need 3 more games to make good cash, or is he a trap.

I have Smith ready to trade to Otten

    Loop · 04/04/2017 at 10:17

    I didnt start him either for the same reason, now I have Smith and Hibberd on my bench but I'm still not sure about Otten, his Rd 1 score was a bit ordinary and JJs injury helped him last week. I'm thinking that I might wait for Newman and Ryan but I'm really not sure what to do.

    Shake n bake · 04/04/2017 at 10:57

    Im in the same boat as you Derek l have Smith aswell and no Otten. I will give it till the last minute but might go early with Newman or just wait 1 more week to see if Newman plays well and just do nothing this week.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 12:06

      Good thing is Swans play Friday night so can get another look at Newman.
      If he goes well can wait till he is on the bubble next week to upgrade Smith if not can pull the trigger Sat to otten.

    The Ranger · 04/04/2017 at 18:55

    That BE is really bloody tempting in a year where cash generation seems hard to find….

Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 10:16

Great write up Barron

    BarronVonCrow · 04/04/2017 at 13:26

    Thanks, Youngy!

Craig · 04/04/2017 at 10:22

What are your thoughts on Sam Reid Sydney. To make money if not points. I know it's a risk but could be huge reward too.

    Kev · 04/04/2017 at 11:01

    Never averaged more than 72. Not the time to chase the points of iffy midpricers

      Craig · 04/04/2017 at 11:51

      Would you then say the same about WHE

        Plugger · 04/04/2017 at 15:11

        I would ask the same question of someone backing WHE and passing on Reid . . .

        PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:29

        Reid plays fwd , WHE playing wing 1/2 fwd

    BarronVonCrow · 04/04/2017 at 13:27

    Looked OK while he was the 3rd tall forward and looked to catch the Bullies off guard early.

    History isn't on his side in terms of his long term potential though

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:27

    wont kick 6 goals & score 115 every week

Declan · 04/04/2017 at 10:23

What to do with Hibberd? On my mid bench and currently have Taranto, Barrett and Parfitt on the mid bench. Should I wait another week and look to see if there is someone coming through the ranks or offload him onto someone. However that means either not trading banners or not trading Pickett?? In a bit of a pickle. Cheers Community

    Kev · 04/04/2017 at 11:03

    I'd wait. Not hurting you on mid bench. Newman coming through and hopefully Berry on the way

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 12:15

      good rooks to appear soon hopefully

      newman already

      balic – this week fingers crossed
      Berry – next week

      the rooks are starting to appear 🙂

        INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 13:07

        They are. If your not certain on a rookie side swap this week then just wait

          neil demons delight · 04/04/2017 at 13:44

          good advice pieman with balic whose been killing them in wa Newman and likely Berry all probably better than those on offer WAIT another week I am with Smith

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:30

    get rid of hanners & get in oliver , hanners knee is cactus

Jack · 04/04/2017 at 10:32

Thoughts on bringing in either Marchbank or WHE? What would be number 1 priority? Can only choose one unfortunately!

    Zee888 · 04/04/2017 at 10:41

    What do your def and fwd lines look like?

      Jack · 04/04/2017 at 10:50

      DEF: Adams, Laird, Lloyd, Hampton, Otten, Stewart (Macredie, Hibberd)
      FWD: Franklin, Dalhause, Lynch, Roughead, Hannan, Houston, (Simpkin, Eddy)

      Only have $3,200 in bank which is frustrating

        Zee888 · 04/04/2017 at 11:26

        Marchbank. Your fwd line is deeper and looks good. Hopefully Simpkin starts getting a bit more comfortable and his output increases. Hampton just not performing how we would like for a D4… so Marchbank comes in and pushing him to D5. Perfecto.

    Kev · 04/04/2017 at 11:05

    Would prefer Marchbank, Jack. Especially if you have a two premo defence. Bucks under pressure will either change things up

      Jack · 04/04/2017 at 11:16

      Thanks Kev. Was leaning toward Marchbank, however I will need to make an additional trade (potentially Hanners down to a Josh Kelly) to generate that extra cash.

    Cozza · 04/04/2017 at 13:48

    You would have the option of bringing both in. I'm a bit concerned about Roughy being a top 10 forward this year – if he's not then consider whether he will generate enough cash to justify keeping him in your team. You could look at a corrective Roughy > WHE (on the basis that he is likely to generate more cash) and have enough left over to bring Marchbank in.

Kevan · 04/04/2017 at 10:35

Kayne Turner not on your radar Barron?

    BarronVonCrow · 04/04/2017 at 13:28

    I was supposed to go back and add him, but I was running low on time and plum forgot about it as I was finishing up last night.

      Kevan · 04/04/2017 at 16:59

      All good Barron. Terrific write up and much appreciated.

Goose · 04/04/2017 at 10:37

Who makes way for Butler? Pickett or Parfitt?

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:07

    Only if one isn't named.

    Butlers Round 1 score will drop out of his BE this week, not a massive difference.

    Look at trading a rookie who gets the chop

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:31

    pickett

Aydo · 04/04/2017 at 10:40

Nice write up again Barron! Interested in people thoughts on who's more important to get in WHE or Witt's. Can get both by a sideways trade of Taranto to WHE and Hibberd to Witt's. Both worth doing or just one trade? If it's one trade I might go Pickett to WHE. Hate wasting trades this early!

    Zee888 · 04/04/2017 at 10:46

    I would just do the one trade. Witts im not totally convinced by. WHE job security looks good, he has slotted in nicely with the pies and he should give us 80s at least. Hold taranto. he is on the improve.

      Aydo · 04/04/2017 at 14:18

      I've got the same thought that Taranto is on the improve Just hoping he can get to the 6 or 7 game mark at least to make some coin!

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:05

    I would only trade into an expensive rookie once you have considered all the cheap ones first.

    Their job is to make cash, and page 25 of the bible will tell you the cheap ones will make you a lot more. It just takes one really good score from them. Even Menapoo made cash last year.

    Having said that, JS is everything this year.

    If you have a rookie with reasonable JS, he might be a slow burn but I'd be holding them for now.

    Kev · 04/04/2017 at 11:08

    I think WHE, just. Unknown if GC will experiment with Nicholls alongside Witts, might change his output

Derek · 04/04/2017 at 10:56

any news on Guthrie

    BarronVonCrow · 04/04/2017 at 13:28

    Haven't heard a peep yet, but the VFL season hasn't started yet and a lot of teams are scant on details when it comes to trial matches.

    Cozza · 04/04/2017 at 13:52

    Been very quiet on the Geelong front with Guthrie (assuming the Zac variety) – Kolo is back available in the next week or so, so expecting him to jump the queue above Guthrie. Still not upgraded off the rookie list

    Valens_FC · 04/04/2017 at 13:55

    I'm a cats fan and was very excited by his natural ability (and SC scoring!) during pre-season. But I think he will play a few VFL games first as they will want to see him under more physical pressure than he faced in the JLT. That said, I don't believe he played in the last VFL pre-season game and I'm not aware that he was injured (surprise round 3 senior selection??). There's a few spots up for grabs in the 22 with Cowan, Murdoch, Lang and Parfitt being under the most immediate scrutiny.

    I started with him as roving donut, with a high degree of confidence that he'll get selected at some point. One thing in his favour is that the window to get him in the senior side is whilst Gregson remains on the long-term injured list so that might bring plans forward.

      whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 18:03

      Not enough Sunday games for Geelong to warrant that donut pick, and with a reasonable list of defensive rookies to pick from it seems odd to have him in.

        Valens_FC · 04/04/2017 at 19:12

        I can't fault your logic but I knew I would end up with rookie donuts anyway so better it be a 102k who I have high confidence will play at some point to help me afford some of the higher priced cash generators.

        I haven't seen too many teams with 100% of round 1 rookies still playing and set for serious cash generation – if you achieved that then very well played.

BrownlowBoy · 04/04/2017 at 11:04

Does Balic get a game soon? Ross the Boss can't continue playing the cooked older blokes Freo have like Suban?

    Warrior · 04/04/2017 at 11:14

    Can't do any more at WAFL level. Serious questions of Lyon have to asked if this kid doesn't get a crack in the next couple of weeks. Be surprised if he doesn't debut this week.

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:20

    He must. Ross said this week that he wants to now play the kids but none of them are standing out in the seconds. I'd imagine Balic has done enough. Ryan won't be far away either

      INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 11:25

      When the AFL around the leagues report came out Monday morning I went straight to The Peel report to see how Ryan went. And then to Balic. Surely Balic has done enough now to get a game

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 12:13

        surely stop lyin to us Ross and play the kid

        pickett/Parfitt to Balic on the bubble – check

    Kev · 04/04/2017 at 15:43

    Knowing Ross he'll play him as a tagger and drop him after two weeks

    Seeker · 05/04/2017 at 12:15

    Lot of strong rumours he is gonna debut against the Bulldogs this weekend

The shark · 04/04/2017 at 11:05

Thoughts on downgrade of Dalhaus to Oliver and Melbourne injured smith to Marchbank. I think Oliver can be consistent as LD and far better BE and cash generation potential???

    Declan · 04/04/2017 at 11:12

    I think it comes down to do you think Dahl will be a top 6 finisher. I personally believe he will be and he was picked for that purpose therefore don't waste a trade. Personally I would keep Dahl

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:21

    Crazy talk

      Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 15:48

      Who is "crazy talk"??? I thought that was Dermott's Cherokee name,

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 11:33

    Madness

      Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 14:48

      Oliver is a good bet as an up and comer but Dahl is already there. By all means get Oliver but not at the expense of Dahl. Worth considering that Oliver will run around against Danger and Selwood this week. He won't be used as a hard tag but he has to play with at least some defensive pressure, The dees expect everyone to both attack and defend, not like pendles who has licence to just play offence. Oliver return this week may drop off a bit so you can wait and get him later because he still has Somme big scores coming down the line

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:33

    keep dalhoust , top 6 fwd , defiantly find another way to get oliver this week though

SC1234 · 04/04/2017 at 11:06

Hello community,

Just to be sure, is this round trades the last one before the prices change? Or do we have time after round 3 to make trades before price changes?

Thank you!

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:22

    Nope. Gotta get them now if they have played 2.

Declan · 04/04/2017 at 11:08

Is trading Hanners out now a waste of a trade as he was selected as a keeper, however he has obviously underperformed and not getting the same midfield minutes as we thought he would. Is it worth trading him out for someone like Murphy or beams and keeping the cash in the war chest?

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:24

    If I was to trade Hanners it would be for JPK of Pendles.

    Keeper for a keeper correction.

      Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:24

      Only if he was injured

    Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 14:38

    Agree with Derek here JPK would be the one for me. Pendles will never let you down but pricey. We saw good Murph this week but bad Murph is horrific. Melbourne left Murph alone and put some effort into Simpson instead, refer to his score this week. Most will probably sit on Murph and he can't cop it… If you can afford the other two there is no decision here

    OldOcker · 04/04/2017 at 16:06

    I will be trading Hanners this week.
    Gun for another Gun KEEPER can be considered a correctional trade I suppose but I would NOT trade him if I didn't need cash for other cash generating trades. Hanners and another rookie becomes 2 rooks and BANK and upgrades.

    I don't have a bank and need cash generation. You can only do that with rookies.
    Every team is different but Cash Generation SHOULD be the biggest priority for every team in this round.
    Just my Opinion.

    Luke · 04/04/2017 at 17:01

    Don't listen to anyone mate. Trade out Hannebery for Oliver. Oliver will shoot up to $570k at least im predicting making you around 400k

Kev · 04/04/2017 at 11:12

Fantastic as always, Barron. Nailed WHE and Marchbank in my starting squad. Only rook I missed was Butler. Though with Eddy, Hannan, Houston, and Taranto my fwd rooks, I don't think having him is essential.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 12:23

    same mate and yeah Nah don't need him
    big score first round will be gone after this round.
    hannan and Houston will score as well
    As BVC said with Hogan missing next two Hannan has a chance to shine.

    Luke · 04/04/2017 at 17:02

    Whats your overall rank Kev?

INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 11:16

Great stuff BVC. The man I've been looking for played his first game of footy this year after an ankle injury. Let's hope he get's into some form & busts his way in……. because….. Luke Ryan…. is…. a….. GUN! And a game purpose built for Supercoach Elite! Give him a crack Ross ya Prick

    jockreynolds · 04/04/2017 at 11:49

    #Significant

      INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 12:43

      Might be the first rookie I pull the Trigger on & slot into D6 when named old mate. We both know how good he is!

    Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 14:23

    Is there any reason at all that Zak Dawson plays and young blokes can't get a start at freo

      INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 15:58

      Ross seems to think he's a good footballer. Champion Data doesn't

    OldOcker · 04/04/2017 at 16:54

    Balic, Logue and Ryan are very close to getting games.
    Balic will play this week,
    Maybe others too.

Benchwarmers · 04/04/2017 at 11:17

Top job Barron, real lot of info there mate.
My rookie issues are Hibberd in def, Pickett in mids and Parfitt in fwd (all sitting on the bench at moment). Have enough coin to go either Pickett/Parfitt (via dpp links) into WHE, and maybe wait to see who's selected re Hibberd into either Otten or Newman – know both Hibbs and Newman on the bubble next week? Thoughts on the rookies?
My other selection drama is I've got NRoo on the fwd bench – not sure how long he's going to be out for, only played the one game so not lost/made cash off him, he was a premo selection, was throwing the around the idea of maybe trading him into burnman Higgins?? Crazy thought or is he going to continue in his midfield role, getting plenty of the ball and scoring points? He'd become one of my premo fwds and obviously I'd bank the cash made from NRoo. Or just hold NRoo till he's right, save a trade?
Thoughts Community?

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 11:40

    if going for rank NRoo needs to be traded….. probably last week.

Steeeve · 04/04/2017 at 11:18

Think I'll hold onto Eddy for now, don't like his odds of bursting that bubble though

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 11:28

    Might take a while. But I think he would get another go at some point

SC17 · 04/04/2017 at 11:36

I have 90K in the bank.
I am thinking of doing Roughead to Higgins/Oliver and Taranto to WHE.
Thoughts?

    Hawks · 04/04/2017 at 13:21

    Good trades. Roughead is 5-6 weeks away from regaining his 2014 form.

    Cozza · 04/04/2017 at 14:09

    Taranto is at least going to generate some cash and improved on the previous week – what about doing Roughy to WHE and using that cash to bring in Oliver/Higgins from another underperformer (if that leaves you enough)?

      SC17 · 04/04/2017 at 21:00

      I can do Roughy to WHE and Pickett to Oliver

    Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 14:58

    Re Higgins ….. No No. No, How many times. Shows something sucks everybody in and then gets injured or just plain loses interest. If this nuffy was going to be a premo he would already be one, been around for ages and through two clubs a stone cold certainty to let you down, I must admit I thought about him too but the previous five times he let me down says. No No No to me. Take Jack Watts before you take higgins

      Kev · 04/04/2017 at 15:32

      Had a look into him today, Tibor, and you're right. Suggest people do the same. Never averaged over 94. Not a proven premo imo

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:35

    yse oliver

mark · 04/04/2017 at 11:45

Hey guys im going to trade hanners and i have a couple of options.
I can either trade hanners to oliver, then pickett to WHE
Trade him to another premium mid and trade taranto to WHE
Or trade hanners to WHE then smith up to marchbank

    Jack · 04/04/2017 at 11:54

    I have the same dilemma Mark. Third option will generate a lot of cash and cover rookies but I can't justify trading Hanners to a rookie. The man was chosen as a potential top 8 mid. May have to cut your losses (which I will have to do also) and take option two. Pickett has solid job security which is important for rookies, Oliver has only played two great games, wait to see how he goes without Lewis in the side (may cop more attention). I will personally be going from Hanners to either TMitch or Bont and moving Simpkin to WHE in the forward line.

    neil demons delight · 04/04/2017 at 12:34

    Keep Hanners he is still good and will happen shortly It will cost you 2 trades for Oliver just to get hanners back when he fires Oliver not a keeper.I would be looking at Lloyd if you can afford him

Josh · 04/04/2017 at 11:45

Is C.Oliver the real deal, he has looked great in the first two rounds, could he make it as a m8 keeper?

    neil demons delight · 04/04/2017 at 12:27

    Very close but too many in front Bont Cripps Priddis maybe BEAMS AND murphy ALL BETTER top 20 though

      John James · 04/04/2017 at 13:07

      Out of the one's you mentioned Neil,only Bont and Beams would be better value right now.

        neil demons delight · 04/04/2017 at 13:51

        Agree but its a marathon and oliver wont finish the others will and Hanners too still got ur brownlow probably get a game still with that bunch and so true Derek remember geelong R12 where it all started with maxy maybe good capt this week.

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 12:30

    i think i might even get a kick with big Max tapping the ball to me.

    No third man up = points for Oliver.

      neil demons delight · 04/04/2017 at 13:55

      how are you going to rescue the year Derek Cyril has let you down and mills too. Do you trade your way out or wait and preserve trades not many had your bad luck mate I TOO HAD C ON eddy but luckily got in a bit quicker good luck youre going to need it

        Derek · 05/04/2017 at 00:36

        I think Mills will go this week.

      Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 14:29

      I am a huge rap for Oliver, he looked the goods even last year but they kept resting him, he's Max's number one target so far but even if that changes he tackles and gets possession inside and outside. Definitely worth a go at a sub 400 price. If anything goes wrong with Max dump Oliver and any other demons midfielder

        Kev · 04/04/2017 at 15:38

        Agree, Tibor. I wouldn't drop a premo for him but if you started with a midprice mid hoping they would break out then jumping on Oliver isn't a bad idea. His contested possessions and clearance work is SC gold

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:36

    M5

      whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:40

      He's my M3 at the moment haha

Dac Zawson · 04/04/2017 at 11:58

Community what are your thoughts on this conundrum.
Trade in Will Hoskin-Elliott and put him on field (current on-field rookie forwards are Butler and Houston)
OR
Trade in Jarrod Witts and bench him (current rucks are Grundy and Sandilands; also do not have Nankervis as back-up, meaning Witts is an insurance policy for Sandi)
i can see Witts earning more cash before his R9 bye than Hoskin-Elliott

Hammer · 04/04/2017 at 12:11

Is jock and the team still doing podcasts??

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 12:31

    tuesdays

Trader · 04/04/2017 at 12:15

What are the community thoughts on T. Lynch gcfc is he a keeper are the suns doomed…..they don't look right?

Thinking of trading out lynch with a BE of 157 could loose up to 77k next week if he put up another stinker.

Lynch to WHE trade or hold?

Cheers

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 13:31

    Bet the suns didn't look right in round 8 last year when they were beaten 149-58.

    Lynch only scored 42 SC.

    Trader · 04/04/2017 at 13:34

    Sorry my bad lynch lose 30 k not 77 k was looking at wrong column

    Kyle · 04/04/2017 at 16:13

    Lynch still scores even when gold coast play poorly. Last year gold coast had a shocking year and lynch still averaged almost 100. As a KPP he will have massive weeks and will drop the occasional turds. He is a keeper and had only 1 bad game. Crazy to drop him after 1 bad game.

      Trader · 04/04/2017 at 17:15

      Ok thanks mate. Think I found a salution…….keep lynch Pickett to WHE

DEE · 04/04/2017 at 12:19

Will depend on selection I guess but traded Roo down last week to get cash to bring in Marchbank and WHE this week.

Florent or Bowes to WHE?
Bench Hannan/Butler

Stewart/Otten/Gutherie to Marchbank?
If I trade Gutherie loose my captain loophole.

What would you do esp in defence?

Jdjfn · 04/04/2017 at 12:23

I didn't start otten should I get him in for Joel smith or wait for next week to see how Neman goes, I also have hibberd so could get Newman for hibberd

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 12:28

    Jdjrn
    Good thing is Swans play Friday night so can get another look at Newman.
    If he goes well can wait till he is on the bubble next week to upgrade Smith if not can pull the trigger Sat to otten.

neil DEMONS DELIGHT · 04/04/2017 at 12:24

Top report as usual Baron Interesting to see Berry perform so well Was thinking Smith to Newman who I really rate but might hold off Had Berry originally but culled him with his injury I think Derek had him too cant have them all

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 13:04

    I'm also a massive fan of Jarrod Berry. Amazing athlete & an A grade tank already. If your going to replace a rookie that you haven't made any money off you'd want it to be a good one. And he could well be. His Mid/Def DPP adds appeal

      Derek · 04/04/2017 at 13:34

      there was no one else. So started with Berry to save a trade. Gun player and ready for AFL.

      Love The DPP

        Northernsoul74 · 04/04/2017 at 15:28

        Would you keep Hibberd with him for his dpp?

          Derek · 04/04/2017 at 17:06

          definately. I actually liked what i saw with hibberd, reminds me of JPK. he will get a game later and happy to keep him as a floating DPP loophole. Also lets me swing players across lines during a trade. IE Trade Smith to Butler using Hibberd or Berry or mcGrath

            whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:38

            10 touches 9 uncontested yet 3 clangers. 3 frees against. Then gets dumped. Not much to like honestly.

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 17:37

          When Berry is on the bubble will probably trade Barrett to Berry and use Hibberd as DPP swing

        INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 15:30

        Nice Derek

        The Ranger · 04/04/2017 at 18:37

        NIce one Derek, I did the same!

Jono · 04/04/2017 at 12:26

Is it worth offloading florent to WHE? Not sure the 47k to get him is worth the point and price increase or keep florent and hope he scores a 70-80pt game? Thoughts?

TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 12:29

Most comprehensive rookie review on the net
Well done BVC.
No wonder this is the number one supercoach site.
It just keeps delivering.

    BarronVonCrow · 04/04/2017 at 13:30

    Cheers, Triggy.

BingoBangoJingoJango · 04/04/2017 at 12:31

Is it crazy to be going Roughy to WHE and Strnadica to Witts? Seriously considering it right now

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 12:55

    I put the price of a trade at 100K. Getting the 2 in & then most likely out again then the cost is 4 trades. Can Witts & WHE both cruise past 400k to make it worthwhile. From what we have seen so far I think they can. Comes with risk of course. But I like it

    Hawks · 04/04/2017 at 13:27

    Not at all, Roughy is 5-6 weeks away from his 2014 form, so Roughy to WHE is fine.

    Witts will gain coin, but I would rather trade someone in that both strengthens my scoring team (not bench), and makes coin.

    Cozza · 04/04/2017 at 14:15

    Looks like 2 good trades. I'm tossing up the same, although am likely to use my 2nd trade to bring in Marchbank instead of Witts. If Strandica was brought in as your captain loophole you will lose that options, so you would need to consider whether you have other options to use as a loophole in that event. As long as you have other non-playing rookies you'll be fine there.

Stirlsy · 04/04/2017 at 12:36

Great work Barron as always,
Nice to see that Luke Ryan does exist a couple more games with peel and he should step in to the Shockers team.

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 13:08

    Mouth watering Stirlsy

    BarronVonCrow · 04/04/2017 at 13:30

    Let's hope he gets a game soon. Can't do much worse than the effort the Dockers put out on Sunday!

Shannon · 04/04/2017 at 12:46

This feels like a bad decision. But its the only way i can afford Marchbank. Thoughts?
Taranto to WHE
Hampton to Marchbank

Otherwise I've got the option to go;
Hibberd to WHE using Taranto's DPP leaving 9.9k in the bank and a left over trade.

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 13:18

    Option 2.

    Option 1 is trading two potentially good cash cows with limited data at this point.

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 13:19

    The first option is a waste of trades. Trading 2 rookies that will make money to 2 rookies that will make money makes no sense. The second option is better

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 13:37

    Second option if Hibberd not named

    Cozza · 04/04/2017 at 14:17

    Option 2 – Taranto and Hampton are both going to generate cash – not as much immediately as the other 2, but I wouldn't expect them to be far off by the time it comes to cull them. Option 1 is wasting a trade IMO for a little, but not much, reward.

LoganJosh · 04/04/2017 at 13:19

Hey guys first comment – just struggling to decide who to go for with my 2nd trade out of Housten and Otten? Love some advice!!

    BarronVonCrow · 04/04/2017 at 13:31

    Tough to split them cause they could easily be dropped pretty quickly!

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 13:39

    Have a look at other comments. Both have JS issues. Even after Otten scores 100+.

    Who are you trading out?

      LoganJosh · 04/04/2017 at 14:03

      would be hibberd for otten or either simpkin/eddy for housten

      agress with the JS issues but love the possible cash generation!!

    LoganJosh · 04/04/2017 at 14:20

    i could go otten – and then wait till balic plays and get him in my forward line as i desperately need a rookie duel mid in the fwd line!

    Cozza · 04/04/2017 at 14:21

    Probably best to wait until teams are named to make that call. Sounds like Housten's JS is a little worse then Ottens (particularly if Jenkins isn't named), but either are a chance to be dropped. Housten has been touted as Pittard's replacement though, so more likely to go in my mind. The concern with Otten is that he would go when Lever is back, but Kelly may be that person (see BVC's comments above). Otten also offers flexibility to the Crows as we saw last week. If both named, I'd go Ottens for those reasons.

      SCaddict · 04/04/2017 at 14:30

      I think Pittard is a chance to play in the Showdown and if does and Houston keeps his spot then that would only improve our confidence in his short term JS.

      So yes let's wait for the team sheets first and see what changes are made to the Port and Crows side for the Showdown which has the potential to be epic btw. Certainly looms as the match of the round with an abundance of fantasy relevance to boot.

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 15:48

    Personally Houston over Otten for me

uDonkey · 04/04/2017 at 13:20

Is it Crazy! Madness! To trade out Hanners and Florent for Bont and Higgins?

Hanners is bleeding cash and killing me seeing him not tackling as much and hovers around the pack waiting for easy possession. Florent though he put some good pressures just not having enough of the ball JS is pretty slim in the next few weeks.

Bont is young and has a lot of class Doggies #1 player. Higgins is looking good running up and down the ground, without Harvey and Wells he's just gonna rack up a lot of the ball and can kick goals too.

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 13:42

    I'm pretty sure Hanners will have been told what he needs to do. If he isn't injured I can see him and the swans coaching staff working it out.

      uDonkey · 04/04/2017 at 13:50

      Hanners just looks lost out on the ground. I watched him last too games running actually jogging near the ball hardly attacks it. Just worried it will be like that for the next few weeks having a premo with sub 100 sc points in the next few weeks bleeding cash gonna hurt ya while you can get another quality player and a keeper to keep ya in the hunt for the prize. I think it's best to pull the trigger on Hanners now.

    Northernsoul74 · 04/04/2017 at 15:32

    If you don't trade him he's not bleeding cash. You've not lost anything.

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 15:49

    It looks tempting, but hold

Captain Risky · 04/04/2017 at 13:40

Another nervous week leading up to team selections…

I have a few this week who's time could be up.. Parfitt, Otten, Preuss would be the main ones, closely followed by Hampton, Taranto, Stewart. Don't have Houston or Eddy and I think they deserve another game, but popular selections that could be out.
Luckily they are all nearly bench cover. Got to get games though to make the dollars.

On the plus side for me, maybe Darcy Cameron gets a run.

How confident are we feeling?? Who's in, who's out?

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 14:02

    Preuss would be very unlucky to lose his spot. In the last quarter the Cats gave up even having a ruckman in the contest outside of the centre bounce. Have a feeling Parfitt will be spending a few weeks in the VFL. Otten would be very stiff to lose his spot. Eddy is unlikely for me & Houston is anyone's guess

    Derek · 04/04/2017 at 17:03

    Parfitt, Hibberd, Eddy i would be worried about.

    Otten, pickett, Simpkin and Preuss should get another run.

    Vickers Willis should get a game this week.

    Won't be surprised to see Balic, Berry, Wigg, McCluggage, Cameron

Plums for days · 04/04/2017 at 13:58

Rossco stop being a flog and give the talented kids a chance to rack up some k's in the legs!

Balic is the 'real deal' isn't he?! Surely his tearing of a new one in the WAFL will translate to a degree of significance in the big stuff…

    Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 15:54

    I don't think Ross can fit them in Plums, Zak Dawson must have some incriminating photos of Ross because I can't work out how he gets a contract let alone a game. He would battle even at wafl level

BigBuggars SC · 04/04/2017 at 14:15

Good stuff Barron! I took the punt on Mills and now need to punt him before he starts bleeding $$$. Will dg to either Marchbank or Ottens. Reading comments suggests Ottens js at risk, but the extra cash saved would be handy. Also punted on Barlow and thinking about dg to Murphy (I flipped coin ps to decide b/t Barlow and Murphy, and looks like I lost). Given GCs lack of enthusiasm, should I punt Barlow now, or hope he comes good?

    BKW · 04/04/2017 at 16:51

    Yep I took a last minute punt on mills as well and regretting it – sure he'all likely turn things around and average 80-odd but are we better off using that spot on a cash generating rookie?

    I'm thinking of making Mills –> WHE switch via DPP and potentially making a second trade of Otten this week or Newman next week – waiting for the teams…

Billy · 04/04/2017 at 14:16

Can't wait to snag hanners as a fallen premo when he gets back on the sauce. Any talk of sideways trading him ludicrous

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 14:40

    When he drops under 500k I'll be walking through his front door with a slab of cans over on my shoulder

      Kev · 04/04/2017 at 15:33

      I'll bring the rum, Pieman!

        Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 23:54

        Give me a yell too I understand hanners is partial to crownies I have a spare box on board that I won in a bet that Clayton Oliver couldn't score 100+ 2 weeks running

Dalvin · 04/04/2017 at 14:21

Need help guys, im trading out jack Steven for WHE, for my second trade I can either:

Upgrade Hibberd to Clay Oliver
Or
Trade Hibberd to Otten
Or
Upgrade Hibberd to Marchbank

Which one and why?

Thanks

    BKW · 04/04/2017 at 16:52

    Marchbank

    Captain Risky · 04/04/2017 at 16:57

    Well, do you need a mid or backman? probably the most important question that only you can answer!

    Otten probably doesn't have great JS, the other 2 is up to you…..

Tiger Man · 04/04/2017 at 14:39

I'm trying to find a way to fit marchbank in and the only way I can do it without trading a playing rookie is

Lynch to Higgins
Smith to Marchbank

Is this a good idea?

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 15:27

    yes

    Kyle · 04/04/2017 at 16:20

    Bad idea. Find another way of getting marchbank. You picked lynch as a keeper so back him in cause he did have only 1 bad game…

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:31

    No.

Mat · 04/04/2017 at 14:53

Currently have Gaz and Hanners and basically $0 in the bank. Thinking about trading one of them out (most likely Gaz as he looks like he doesn't even care about footy) to WHE and then trading Joel Smith to either the Nank and pocketing the cash, or to Taylor Adams and being left with nothing. Atm have no ruck cover with Sandi and Gawn.

    Kyle · 04/04/2017 at 16:22

    If you must drop one of them, drop Gaz.

    However, after all the criticism he has faced this week i would be backing him in for a massive game this week to prove everyone wrong.

    My advice is hold them both.

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:22

    oliver

Samuel · 04/04/2017 at 15:10

Taranto to WHE? Its the only way i can get the Hosk in.

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 15:20

    I wouldn't bother

      Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 15:44

      Agree

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:22

    defiantly

Jadyn · 04/04/2017 at 15:20

Trade Hibbard to Otten or wait a week and bring in Newman?

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 15:44

    I'd bring in Otten

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:20

    yes to otten unless you use hibbard as a capt loophole & put the VC on pendles or treloar Friday night

Dusty Spurs · 04/04/2017 at 15:22

Question, if I reverse my trades do I get my trades back? New to supercoach

    Kev · 04/04/2017 at 15:29

    Yes

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 15:43

    Yes, but you can not reverse your trades once the first game has started

    hedski · 04/04/2017 at 15:44

    Before the first bounce Friday night then they're locked Dusty. (You can't get last weeks back if that's what you mean)

PJH · 04/04/2017 at 15:25

sitting @ 5700 rank , Rough out 4 WHE & Pickett out ( hibbard into mid bench as loophole option ) Marchbank into def = +40k + 60 pts .. is it worth the Rough trade ???

Dean · 04/04/2017 at 15:25

What mid rookies are a must have before price change? Struggling to come up with any

    Crusher · 04/04/2017 at 15:28

    spp the only one i think

    Kev · 04/04/2017 at 15:28

    If I had to pick one it would be SPP. Negative b.e and high js

    Northernsoul74 · 04/04/2017 at 15:42

    SPP.

    Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 15:42

    Agree SPP, the rest are crap currently

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 15:44

    Reminds me of Neville Bartoss Dean "There's no cash here, here there's no cash"

      Dean · 04/04/2017 at 16:57

      Lol, didn't stop ol Chop Chop from shooting him though did it. Thanks everyone I have SPP was just hoping I might have missed someone cause my mid bench rookies need a good backhander to get them going

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 18:16

    Yeah out of the current crop SPP
    Hopefully some better options on the horizon

GOOSE · 04/04/2017 at 15:31

Anyone got any better certainty of when roo will be back? If not should just go him to Franklin?

jez_m · 04/04/2017 at 15:41

What do we reckon of these trades community?

Petrevski-Seton to Hoskin-Elliott (via forward/midfield swing)

Parfitt to Houston

My thinking around these trades is that WHE is going to make heaps of cash before the byes and is must have, and Parfitt's performances to this point mean his job security is dangerously low. Not sure about Houston's going forward either though, given Hartlett and Pittard need to come back into that Power outfit.

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:13

    houstons job security is shaky with hartlett coming back , so is eddys for that matter, look at hannan or butler who should give you 60/80 or parfitt who if he cleans up his disposal efficiency should score 60's as well , keep 1 eye an black in the 2s , he's playing welll

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:29

    SPS and parfitt are going ok. No reason to trade.

Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 15:51

Really hope Hanners smashed out a 150 on Friday, Teach everyone who trades him a lesson

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 16:10

    I hope he does but he wont be in my team
    If our fearless leader JR says trade him then that is good enough for me.
    A couple of stats I cant get past:
    Rd 1 – zero tackles – yep zero, zilch, nadda, the last time hannas had zero tackles in a game was wayyy back in 2011!
    7 kicks rd 1 & rd 2. Last time he had 7 kicks was in the GF when he injured his leg. Coincidence?

    If he was just underperforming I would say keep him but I just think he is carrying something is looking for easy ball and is favouring handballing over kicking.,.. so for mine time to brutal and trade.

      SCaddict · 04/04/2017 at 16:37

      Hanners dilemma is a tough one as it could go either way. Sometimes holding isn't always the right answer.

      Last year I held Stef Martin rather than trading him to Gawn when I could've banked $50K in savings before the price changes. Instead I persisted with Stef until Rd9 when I was then forced to get Gawn in and pay an extra $150K for the privilege! That discipline in holding premos as we are all taught had torpedoed my SC season both in terms of rank and leagues.

      As much as we may like to follow certain guidelines or principles they don't always serve our best interests. So you really need to listen to your own instinct in these situation and own your own calls, even if others in the community believe differently.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 16:42

        Exactly SCA one thing I have learnt in this game is to back your gut and trust your instincts
        Mine say trade but everyone has to make their own call

        The Ranger · 04/04/2017 at 17:02

        Spot on SC. Heed the herd but don't follow it.

        Youngy · 04/04/2017 at 20:42

        Ye good call. addict

        JEL · 04/04/2017 at 23:53

        Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

        I've been bitten before by supposed premos who don't turn it around, while other promos have come good the week after I've ditched them.

        I've gone Hanners to Smurph, and used the cash to get WHE and put some coin in the Bank.

        Sometimes you roll the dice…

    Iamme · 04/04/2017 at 17:53

    The problem is he has a break even of 235 so he will still bleed plenty of cash even if he cracks a 150.

PD09 · 04/04/2017 at 16:14

Do I keep Hannebery & back him in after two rounds of crap?

If not, who do I bring in?
(Already have Danger, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, JOM & SPP)

Thanks in advance

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 16:16

    My thoughts r under Youngy's post
    No for me.

Mog · 04/04/2017 at 16:31

On a scale of 1 to 10 how nuts am I for considering trading out Omeara and Roughie (underwhelming so far) for Hoskins Elliot and Marc Murphy. I met a decent amount of cash for the war chest and the later duo are av 81 points moe per week ATM. This will also give me full premo mids earlier than any previous season. Somebody please talk some sense into me.

    R U Shaw · 04/04/2017 at 16:37

    4 trades for no keepers and a few extra points?

      whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:26

      Good reality check.

      Mog · 04/04/2017 at 23:18

      2 trades and surely Murphy will be a keeper. Not sure about Omeara and roughie

    PJH · 04/04/2017 at 17:17

    before trading murphy take into account cripps looks like he might not play this week , murph will have a lot less room if that happens

Luke · 04/04/2017 at 17:05

Hannebery to Oliver is a no brainer for me. Outside mid for an Inside mid. Especially with Jordan Lewis out for 3 matches. 400k turnaround trade

    DavidSA · 04/04/2017 at 17:23

    Trade down for cash generation then trade to turn Oliver to a super premo = 2 trades and I don't like doing that

      Crusher · 04/04/2017 at 17:27

      Agree. Pretty much wasting two trades to get back where you started if hanners comes good and have to hope Oliver comes good

R U Shaw · 04/04/2017 at 17:15

I'm not saying it is going to happen but those considering bringing in Oliver I remind you of Marcus Bontempelli in 2015
Was a forward and started the season with:
126
142
Everyone jumped on:
Once his price went up based on those two huge scores – Scored 2 tons in the next 10 weeks.
Started $422k went up to $465k finished $516K due to a 150 in rd 22.

So just something to consider – will history repeat? Buyer beware.

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:42

    So if you started with him he was reasonable but don't trade him in.

      John James · 04/04/2017 at 20:50

      Spot on whatyasmokin,what's the difference he's still the same price at the moment, mind you I've had him from the start and plan to keep him as a M8 at his price you only need 90+ most games to make it worth it.

      Tibor · 05/04/2017 at 00:04

      I reckon get him he will repay the faith over season and may be one of those few who makes the break out from mid price to premium. Sub 400 price very tempting but does meet dangerwood this week. Won't play as a tagger but dees require offence and defensive efforts across all players so this week will be interesting much relies on big max…..

Luke · 04/04/2017 at 17:25

Post from AFL WEBSITE: Oliver could certainly play, but he was a late-developer. Moreover, he couldn't run as well as some of his contemporaries and had been hampered by osteitis pubis. He hadn't adopted the habits of a professional athlete – recruiters found out he had eaten chicken nuggets before playing a match for Richmond's VFL team – and there were queries over his discipline.

Maybe Hanners should get on the Chicken Nuggets if he isn't going to start drinking again

    Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 22:35

    Young Dane Swan got up to some mischief too but he went ok

    Russ in W.A · 05/04/2017 at 01:36

    Nuttin wrong with some chicken nuggets, except that they're mostly Beaks and assholes lol, You can eat whatever the hell you want when you're young, and still smash it.

Daz · 04/04/2017 at 18:27

Took a punt On P Cripps and this week he was OK but unsure how his fractured cheek will affect him. Bont and Dusty look so appealing as sideway trades. Is this a wasted trade? Currently have SPP on bench with O'Meara as M8, would I be wiser to get WHE via DPP for Cripps and field SPP and have massive warchest. No trades yet and other rookies playing apart from Hibberd and Cameron.

    Russ in W.A · 05/04/2017 at 01:38

    I'd go Cripps to Murphy if Cripps is missing a few, Murph looks in fine ole form..and save yourself some dosh.

The Ranger · 04/04/2017 at 18:59

Thanks Barron. Bloody love these articles.

Russ · 05/04/2017 at 00:09

Hannebery to Murphy or Dangerfield?

I'm worried about the depth of rookies, so want to leave as much cash as possible, but Danger will score consistently. I'm leaning toward Danger.

    Russ in W.A · 05/04/2017 at 01:41

    Hi Russ, it's Russ here lol, I'd go Murph mate, save some cash and wait till Danger has a shocker or two and he'll drop in price pretty quick, cause it's harder to maintain a reasonable break even at the higher end of it. If Danger has a breakeven of 120 one week and he scores an 80, he could drop by 35 grand.

marcus · 05/04/2017 at 09:39

Who is more important to get marchbank or WHE?

    Kyle · 05/04/2017 at 10:47

    Completely depends on what is the weaker part if your team. If you started a 2 premium defence like a lot did then definately matchbank. If you have a weaker forward line then WHE. Just depends where you are having more troubles and what lines need more points

Hitch · 05/04/2017 at 11:17

Would you trade out SPS or GHS to bring in the cash cow that is Houston? I'm leaning towards SPS because i think GHS has a higher potential but SPS probably has better JS? Houston is essentially the only solid rookie I'm missing so I'm keen to maximise salary.

Love to hear the community's thoughts. Cheers.

    Hitch · 05/04/2017 at 11:19

    Just seen a tweet below GHS broken thumb.. deliberation over i guess haha

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