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PODCAST: Supercoach Round 3

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round 3 Supercoach podcast

THE GAME WITHIN THE GAME BEGINS!

An absolutely critical week in the SuperCoach 2017 season!
This is the last opportunity we have to get our teams cherry-ripe before the price changes kick into gear.
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callum

what are people thoughts on Trent Cotchin has had a real good start to the year and looks to be playing good footys as are the tigers, only in 1.2% teams so i have a feeling he could be a sneaky POD trade from Jack Steven is this a good trade? or am i better off going with another mid under 550k

any help would be appreciated

jordanandeddie

Go for it! You (and me…) picked Steven as a POD so it makes sense to replace him with one. He's more durable than the injury discounted mids and is a proven scorer.

Youngy

Really really risky, the only way it pays off is if he finishes top 10 mid, Even as a big Cotchin fan myself I don't see that happening.

INPieman

Not even a hand me down Brownlow makes him relevant. Pick him & enjoy the dissapointment

whatyasmokin

hahaha

Russ in W.A

He could have a really good year Callum, and so could the Tigers, so trust your gut. The past doesn't set the future in stone.

Jabba07

Hmmm, hard one. Could be good, but plenty of other unique options – Robbie Gray 1.6%, Sloane 3.6%, Wines 2.5%, Shuey 1.0%, Shiel 2.4%, Neale 2.8%, Zorko 3.5%, Merritt 4.2%, Priddis 3.3%.

Even the great Rocky is only 6.5% owned which makes him pretty unique. Putting Cotch up against these guys makes it a tough decision! Agree he, and the Tigers, look pretty good early on. Given Martin is basically untaggable, does he attract the tag at some stage?

Krups

Treloar to Wines
Roughy to WHE

Treloar efficiency is worrying. Ave 102 is not good enough

Leaves $421,000 in bank.

Seb

It's only been two rounds……

Krups

Have you watched his games. He is shocking by foot. If I am paying over $600,000 I want scores for what I paid. Will he finish in the top 8 mids? On this form no. Plus he left the training track early yesterday.

Seb

Yes I understand what your saying but have a look at the way Jpk started last year. And then ended as 3rd highest averaging mid, so it's just silly to trade him he's a gun and he can only improve it's only round 3

Finn

Ollie Wines isn't the most efficient kick either hahahah

INPieman

Didn't Wines have he second most clangers last season? I'm sure I heard jock & Higgo discussing that during a pod. Has to be considered

whatyasmokin

His low scores last year were 73, 81, 85, 86, 89 and still averaged 111.2

whatyasmokin

'If I am paying over $600,000 I want scores for what I paid'

I can't stop laughing.

David

Treloar is smashing it. Why would you trade him? Watch him play, not the score. that will correct itself in no time. He will average very well this year.

whatyasmokin

Exactly, I have him and am happy so far. he is on track to have a big year.

SCaddict

Treloar is an absolute must hold imo. I have him and he's going nowhere. I also have Roughie and see no reason to move him just yet with a BE well below his season average. Could kick a bag against the basket case Suns this weekend.

If Treloar and Roughie are you worst problems the you must have a pretty decent side. There are plenty of coaches holding far worse hands than that right now.

hedski

Here hear.

Lach

Krups there is literally no logic in trading him.. Worst case scenario is that he drops down 20k. The kid is probably better than 90% of your other players in your team. Surely you have other stains to remove at the moment.

Lach

shit trades boi

Youngy

Agree hold off on those trades.

whatyasmokin

35 and 33 disposals in the first two games. He is going fine just needs to clean his disposals up a bit.

First trade is just chasing points and highly amateurish.

Saundo

Treloar will dominate this week, he loves the SCG, I'll be putting VC on him !

Dom

I'm holding Treloar, I reckon he's been stiff with CDs scoring. Just compare Heppells stats from the weekend and you'll see Treloar should've got atleast 120.

Pitch 72

Yep, trade Treloar out and as soon as you do, the 130-140's will come, bad move imo. Roughy up against Gold coast could go huge, you must have a better way to get WHE.

Jabba07

Keep Treloar – gun and likely top 10 mid. Finding the ball real well inside and out, small efficiency gains will boost his scoring. Perfect age to go to the elite level, working with a good ruckman and great midfield, back him in and keep your trade. Find another way to get WHE

Seeker

Kev, who gave great pre-season player reports pointed something out to me on twitter.

Treloar averaged something like 92 SC points in games Collingwood lost in 2016. Therefore, currently averaging 102 in Collingwood losses is above last years average (over 3 games, admittedly). Imagine if they start winning and if he starts kicking more accurately…HOLD!

Rick

Wasteful trading. If Treloar averages 102 by season's end, then you can't blame him if your team under-achieves. Also, I doubt Wines will average more than him by season's end.

Dean

Those trades are absurd as far as im concerned both those trades are side ways trades.

Yoda

What to do with Roo – any updates on the young kid? Hold or trade??

Youngy

Cracking Podcast Lads

Steeeve

Smith out Otten in.
Roughy out WHE in.
Bang bang.

Youngy

1st trade good, Roughy is a hold for mine tho

Steeeve

Just can't see him being a top 10 forward. Might as well make the cash and to do that I need someone with job security. WHElcome my team.

whatyasmokin

I agree Roughy can't be a top 10 if Hawks don't make the 8. Yes I just said that 🙂

Mike

Hanners to Bont????

Leeds17

If you really love the Bont do it,

Lach

I'm doing it

mich

I'd do it, Bont rubs champ data the right way

whatyasmokin

You mean he does the right things in game to get supercoach points………….

BadSupercoacher

i'd do it, Bont for Brownlow 2017

Lach

Would it be wise to trade Ryder down to WHE.. can't decide what's better.

Youngy

Hold Ryder for mine

Dom

I'm in the same position mate, WHE is a must but it's Taranto that gets the chop for me.

SCaddict

If you have no other way to get WHE in this week I'd probably consider it as Ryder has always been an unreliable performer at the best of times. So it's no surprise he's let you down so far. He's done that to plenty of coaches in the past.

Nevertheless he could still end up being a good keeper this season despite an uninspired start fantasy-wise so you will just have to trust your gut on that one.

Lach

Currently weighing on Tarranto and Pickett as other options.. Still not sure but i think im leaning on Ryder at the moment. Guess i'll wait til the rookies are named.

whatyasmokin

If you have the cash to do Pickett>WHE that seems a no brainer considering his scoring capabilities so far.

Russ in W.A

Giday Lach, yes I believe that is a wise choice as Ryder is crap in my opinion, he gets suspended for a year and a chance at a new club and he produces this crap?…glad I didn't pick him, ever, all he's ever done is let Supercoaches down.

Youngy

I still think Hanners should be a Hold

DavidSA

Yeah I'm in two minds youngy

A) hold and hope he is worthy of m8 final premo
B) get in a young gun like Wines or Bont who are rdy for elite premo and are durable

Either way I got to find cash for WHE by flogging off ShitPick

Have Hickey too lol

JamiesNinjas13

Based off two games you're already asking the question if his worthy of an m8 premo? he's been super elite in the past couple years and his only 26. He has missed around 5 games for the last 6 years which shows he is extremely durable. Have a very long think before trading him out mate

Langers

Passion…wisdom…..humour…….got it all. Simply irresistible!!

Lach

Thanks Mr. New York Times.

Skindog

Can not believe people are off loading Shaw and omeara and Roughy, ??? Bright sparks, Roughy i can understand a little but give him time, or not,,, good luck,,,,,,,,,,

Youngy

You picked your Premos for a reason, don't give up on them after 2 rounds.

You will run out of TRADES

Seb

Agreed

Danners

Definitely agree with you Youngy, but people just still don't get it

whatyasmokin

That's why I don't care about starting with a bakroll, I will shoot up the ranks in no time due to others mistakes.

They trade a player because they are under their average, then they chase a player scoring well.

Player traded has some good scores, player chased has their low scores.

People don't understand averages.

Russ in W.A

Depends on how much the "premo" cost you, and whether they're a fallen or returning premo such as Roughy, I can perfectly understand people preferring to trade Roughead to someone like WHE or Higgins this week, someone trading Treloar on the other hand, is silly and is chasing scores. Treloar's a keeper..as are Shaw and O'Meara…maybe.

Steeeve

I would hold O'Meara but he is not a keeper. If he finishes as a top 10 mid I'll eat my hat.

Young Gun

Make hay, premos stay otherwise you'll lose your way

James

Taranto to WHE? Good move or waste of a trade… what you reckon fellas?

SCaddict

We could argue either way to the cash cows come home on that one. I have serious doubts about both the cash generating potential and JS of Taranto despite scoring well against the witches hat Suns.

So if you have no other way to get on WHE in I agree with Jock that I would likely pull the trigger there. But you could easily make an argument for holding Taranto and just missing out on WHE too, saving that trade.

Finnius123

Thoughts on Taranto to Sam Reid? I have 200k in the bank so dosh isn't the problem

whatyasmokin

Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

Finnius123

Was thinking the same thing – but just wanted to get everyone's opinion. You have to admit he looks pretty good though….

whatyasmokin

13 touches and 7 marks week one.
15 touches 5 marks week two.

Not huge numbers, anyone can string together a couple of good weeks in supercoach.

Russ in W.A

Next week he'll FCK something up on his body that'll keep him out of the side for 2/3 of the season, don't fall for that trap.

Penny

O'Meara out… WHE and Marchbank in. Is this worth it or am I crazy?

whatyasmokin

Trading out an inside midfielder that had 36 touches last week, and cost a paltry 318K, you're bat sheet crazy.

Captain Risky

Only 6 kicks, 30 handballs at only 66% DE. You'd think he could of had better DE given he hardly kicked it.

Next week kick the bloody thing!!

whatyasmokin

If he was 400K+ I'd be concerned

Anthony

100% agree! OMeara will improve week in week out and he plays Gold Coast this week!!!!!!!

Youngy

Agree, u are crazy if u trade out Omeara

Russ in W.A

O'Meara could average 80 for the next 6 weeks…then would they be crazy for trading him this week?, he never averaged more than 95 , even when he wasn't broken.

Randomcliche2

I bought O'meara (injury trade) over those 2 last week. Each to their own!

TheLoneRanger

I will laugh myself to sleep if WHE puts in a shocker…LMAO

Saundo

To the people that traded out Robbie Gray last week this should be a lesson not to jump into trades based on one or two performances!

demon_spud

Need to grab the cash as don't have either Marchbank or Hoskin Elliot, so need to dump one of these boys.
Z Jones or Jarryd Roughead traded out?

Andy

I'm in the same situation but holding trades even with Mcarthy stinking up my forward line! WHE is overrated!

whatyasmokin

You might need to start planning for season 2018 instead then.

INPieman

Demon spud if that was my dilemma I'd pull both of those trades. Cash in the bank & cash coming

hedski

Jones

Thebandit7

Thoughts on Roughead for Hoskin-Elliot? Was thinking trading out Taranto but hoping he will generate more cash than roughy?

Sana

Why did you pick Roughy? To generate cash or as a potential keeper? At his price he was ever s great cash generation option, If as a keeper you need to hold and give the bloke a chance. Has Suns this week, might kick a bag! Taranto you obviously picked for cash generation, if you think he's not doing his job then omit him for WHE or someone else you think will make $$$.

Freddie

Excellent podcast fellas, I still haven't received an email from you guys regarding winning the prize in coachkings. Has there been a mistake or am I just an extremely impatient person.
Cheers fellas.

jimmy_raiders

Mine came through on the Monday but it was in the junk mail box

The_Black_Mamba

I came in the top 5 and mine hasnt come through either…

killer

I was right there all night ,finished just outside top 10 ,,well done mate ,
Emails .? How bout a knock on the door and a giant Check with Jock & Crouching holding a case of Bundy …

Dylan

Really unsure on trades

Players who have been concerning me are KK, Hanners, Pickett and Parfitt. I don't have Hoskin-Elliot or Butler. If I trade KK via DP switch I have a 2 premo, 4 rookie backline. What trades should I make to get both Hoskin-Elliot and Butler in? $3,330 in the bank

JEL

Hanners to Smurph
Pickett to WHE
130K in the bank

That's my move this week
I already have Butler though.

Travo

Thinking of making the same trades, not sold on Murph as yet.

Tony

Mills to Newman and Taranto to the Bont. What's your thoughts guys

TheLoneRanger

LOVE IT !!

Keenbutclueless

Gold

Pitch 72

Now there's a BANG BANG, awesome.

BigFella12

Laird – Howe – Mills -Hibberd
Marchbank- Otten – Hampton -Stewart

Dangerfield – Pendles – Treloar – Miles
– Fyfe – Beams – JOM -Parfitt
Swallow – Powell Pepper -Barret

Grundy – Sandilands -Witts

Franklin – Dahlhaus – Caddy -Pickett
Nankervis – Taranto – Houston. -Eddy

What trades should I make ???

Keenbutclueless

No trades needed. You are in a good place with this team. Leaving a lot of points on the bench with Witts, but that was always the issue with that structure.

Youngy

If I rookie is not named I would consider trading them to Butler

Nietzsche

Only one I could see is trying to get WHE in, but I'm guessing you don't have the cash for a straight-trade.

BigFella12

I have 220k or something in bank

whatyasmokin

Pickett>WHE using your bankroll.

Or Parfitt/Miles/Barret if dropped. (Swing taranto to mid bench)

Tyruddanaut

Tarantino out for a cheapo like Hannan or Butler pocket cash

Pags

Thoughts on Aaron Hall? Got him as a POD but may have made a bad mistake. Trade or not? Only got $25K in the bank after getting WHE in.

SCaddict

I feel your unease on Hall Pags. I think many of us had our doubts on him considering what happened last year when his own coach dumped him back to the NEAFL. If he started with two poor scores in a row then combined with what we know about his history and where the Suns again appear to be tracking this season I think that would be enough to advise the ole wooshka treatment.

HOWEVER he did have that huge 118 in Rd1 so that muddies the decision for me as there is no doubt he has a very fantasy relevant game if he is allowed to play it. So he could easily ton up against the Hawks this weekend but that 44 in Rd2 does look particularly nasty in his rolling price change should he and the Suns spud it up again.

If you were to trade him then realistically Beams, Smurph and Oliver are your main options given your cash situation. None of those guys are sure things either so there is a definite risk of a backfire if you do trade him.

whatyasmokin

You hold him now, you hold him for good because he's got a tough run coming up.

Looking at his previous scoring he doesn't fare well against good teams.

Tyruddanaut

Don't trade he's alright

CrazyMatt

Check upcoming opponents and scores against them. He's a flat track bully.

Round 9 bye too.

killer

Only my 2nd year Jock & somehow found myself in 701 possy overall ,had strategy for H2H battles this year but now must rethink This ,I've got all the right cash rookies only Hibberd as a trade Thi week,but was thinking of Roughie to Higgins & bringing in Newman next week For Hibberd is that move sideways #Higgins

whatyasmokin

Looks ok, but then Higgins gets 75 next week and Roughy gets 130.

Randomcliche2

Rough to higgins is a slight upgrade for mine.

Daniel

Agree, but only a slight upgrade.
I think he'll prefer to have that trade to make a full upgrade in a month or two.

Rivo

Have a few stains to remove though not sure as it's only Rd 2 and trades are precious…

Concerns are Taranto, Barrett, M.Crouch, Pickett, Parfitt, J.Smith (inj) & Hibberd (NM).

Option 1 – Taranto to WHE
Option 2 – Crouch & Barrett to Beams/Murphy & WHE
Option 3 – Pickett & Smith to Butler & Newman
Option 4 – HOLD.

Appreciate Community feedback.

ThatsGoldJerry

Option 2. In my humble opinion. Go Murphy.

Rivo

Thanks "Jerry". Murphy in hot form but can he keep it going? Crouch a break out pre-season prediction that just has to stop hand-balling so much. Tough call.

whatyasmokin

Crouch is going ok, handballing off is his job.

The Matt Crouch breakout was a myth, I think the Titch one is too, but it has more merit than the Crouch theory.

whatyasmokin

Well crouch isn't, and never was a keeper. Trade out for WHE, unless you have enough bank to go Pickett to WHE.

Taranto you have to keep now….surely. Started with him have some faith, you couldn't actually expect 100's from a first year player.

No reason to trade barrett he is going fine, just needs one decent score now.

Option 3 is ok-ish but there's so many sydney rookies floating around I don't like their JS, and have avoided all of them so far.

Newman does look good though, and now Hayward has scored well.

Nietzsche

Of those options, I'd go 4.

Option 1 – Taranto will make money, so you're banking on WHE making either a lot more money or making it a lot faster. While WHE will make more money and do it faster, it isn't worth the value of a trade IMO.
Option 2 – You picked Crouch as a premo – no injury, no role change, then you keep him for the same reason you picked him (if you look back at his stats, he's not handballing much more than previous years – maybe 2-3 per game).
Option 3 – Smith should go for injury (I think he's out for a couple of months) but to trade him to a 1-game rookie is a mistake. Only pick Newman if he's named for his 3rd game. Pickett-Butler I don't mind but again, might not be worth a trade at this stage.

Rivo

Thanks Nietzsche.
Pending team selections, Option 4 looks the goods.
Hoping for Crouch & Taranto to improve next few weeks.

Rivo

Another I did not consider until Comminity comments…
Option 5 which I think can work –
J.Smith to Butler via DPP.

whatyasmokin

Lock it in, good rookie correction.

Thr mongrel punt

I did that last week good move

Tommo09

Thoughts on my team

Def: Simpson, Laird, Tuohy, Hampton, Otten, Stewart (HIBBERD, SMITH)
Mid: Danger, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Fyfe, TMitch, O'Meara, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, MOUNTFORD)
Ruc: Gawn, Sandi (STRNADICA)
Fwd: JJK, Lynch, Roughy, Steele, Butler, Houston (Eddy, Parfitt)

Any trades you can suggest community?
Maybe thinking Mountford to Hanaan or another rookie trades

Ranked 23000 at the moment
Hoping for a few good weeks

Thanks community

killer

Mountford &Hibbered are the ones ,have you got any cash banked ,defs Hannan with Job security as Hogans gone youd think …

killer

Smith aswell mate must go ..

Tommo09

Have 43k left

Tommo09

Might wait a week on Hibberd/Smith to get Newman
Also, thinking strnadica to preuss

whatyasmokin

But strnadica is there for a loophole is he not?

Otherwise you would've started with Witts/Cameron/Preuss surely as your R3.

Keenbutclueless

Would consider Steele to Nank. Better cash and gives you ruck cover

Raging Bulls

Out of left field but perhaps trade Sandi to Witts then use the cash to trade Smith to Marchbank. Two non playing rookies in defence is a worry, you can easily get rid of Mountford next week either to Newman (via hibberd) or Hayward (via parfitt). Trading in Hannan is still a good move though. Good luck.

whatyasmokin

You have nobody playing on that back bench…………damn that's risky for a donut on a late out.

poloko48

Trades this week:
Smith-Marchbank: LTI trade
Parfitt-Butler: much better cash gen rookie + JS concerns for Parfitt.

Only leaves me with $20K in bank.

Thoughts?

poloko48

My team now:

DEF: Adams, Heater, Simmo, Otten, Stewart, Hampton, Marchbank, ZGuthrie
MID: Danger, Fyfe, JPK, Beams, Treloar, Prestia, SPP, JOM, Barrett, Pickett, Mountford
RUC: Witts, Sandi, Preuss
FWD: Nank, Buddy, Macrae, Dahl, Roughy, Hannan, Butler, Eddy

killer

What is Hannans job security mate (55k rise) ,his Job security is the only concern &with Hogan out he might get some more games .not Tha he's a FFwd but numbers wise up Fwd..instead of Butler ..

whatyasmokin

Personally don't see Hogan out affecting his JS at all.

That last game of only 10 touches and a 60% DE is worrying.

poloko48

I'd say it'd be better than Parfitt's after last week! Have cover in Butler & Eddy anyway for the moment.

whatyasmokin

He should be fine for JS yeah, but wouldn't surprise me if he's rested for one soonish. Quite normal though and I'd hold him even if rested of course.

Tommo09

If I had Gaz, he would be my C this week
He will respond

Youngy

I was thinking the same but why risk it when you have Danger and Fyfe

Dogs

Why risk it when you have danger, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Gawn……..who do I choose. Haha

Sarah

Thoughts community?

Too many rookies not playing or spuds. So contemplating Omeara to WHE, Smith to marchbank?

Leave my team looking like

Shaw Adams laird marchbank Hampton otten- hibberd Stewart

Danger Selwood Rockliff Bonty Fyfe Macrae beams spp- Barrett Pickett mountford

Gawn sandi- strandica

Dahl Higgins Nankervis WHe butler Houston- eddy parfutt

Hawks

Sarah, I wouldn't be trading out O'Meara.

In just his 2nd match after 18 months out of the game he had 36 possessions. He is a ball magnet. His knee is holding-up well, he's getting to contests and winning them (19 contested disposals last week). The efficiency of disposal will return in coming weeks.

O'Meara is about to become very fantasy relevant IMO.

whatyasmokin

Bloke costing 300K gets an 89 and gets traded………

I'm not sure where all this crazy is coming from.

Imo you want those players you are going to sacrifice a premo, which is not a good move, but O'meara is a crucial part of your team value increasing over the year and even could be a keeper.

Randomcliche2

What did you do with the goldilocks cash? Anyways, Marchy would be a nice d4, but I think you watch Friday nights match, check Newman okay and just got there for Hibb jnr next week. Keep Smith as loop as nth have to many early games. If Newman spuds it up, then strongly consider…the cheaper rookies will come. Save those trades.

SCaddict

Whilst I agree with the other guys that JOM needs to be held by nearly all his owners this week I don't think what you are proposing is a terrible idea. You will be getting in two excellent cash cows with solid JS which will definitely help you plug some holes. So I think it could be worth sacrificing JOM for in your particular situation.

However you could also just wait a week and jump on Newman and maybe Hayward the following week as you may not have any onfield donuts this week unless there are some surprise injuries/omissions in your defence. Although their JS is unlikely to rival Marchbank and WHE so you have to weigh that up too.

whatyasmokin

But an inside midfielder who got 36 touches last week has so much scoring potential.

Marchbank and WHE are far more likely to pump out a 50 odd here and there, not to mention 2 trades per player will be used in and out again.

pros and cons I guess.

Sarah

Yeah ideally I keep Omeara, but I think he'll be a slow burn. Whe and marchbank will probably make the same amount of cash as him..

I'm thinkin long term to solidifying my bench.. cause I'm not seeing many reliable rookies at all this year.

whatyasmokin

Def rookies – McGrath, Hampton, Otten, Stewart, Macreadie, Newman (Berry)

Mid rookies – SPP, SPS, Barrett, Miles, Pickett, Parfitt (McCluggage)

Forward rookies – Taranto, Turner, Butler, Hannan, Houston, Eddy, Hayward.

These are all the decent rookies around, there are heaps.

All these guys played last week, and should play this week, many are on the bubble and will profit.

In brackets are up and coming rookies.

MorrowSC

Great looking team, not the worse idea when you're able to get two of the best rookies with scoring potential and cash generation possibilities. Don't mind the trades.

Raging Bulls

I am considering trading Sandilands to WHE (Via Nankervis Swing) as I think this is the only viable way to get WHE into my team. What do you guys think? Definitely won't trade Taranto, though not sure if WHE is worth getting tbh. Cheers

Hawks

I would trade Taranto, Sandi will make good coin, and Nank scores enough to be a top fwd.

Jib_Jib

I would be keeping Sandi and trying to find a different way to WHE. I know we are all looking for alternative ways to raise $$$ this season but Sandi should still make decent coin.

whatyasmokin

Seriously?

Sandi projected to go up 40K.

Still fit to play, could go big at any moment.

Randomcliche2

Do yourself a favour. Take your mouse and put it in a bucket of water. Freeze it. Defrost next monday. Your Rnd 18 self will thank you for it.

Dan

1st trade is a lock. McCarthy to WHE.
Other trade not so sure. Can go Simpkin to Butler, leaving enough cash to go Taranto to Swallow next week if needed. (Had Swallow and changed him to Taranto when he was late withdrawal)
Or can go Simpkin to Witts, swinging Strndica on fwd bench.
Thoughts?

whatyasmokin

Probably the first two trades if simpkin isn't going to make cash.

PJ King

All we should be doing this round is corrective rookie trades. Don't touch your premos chasing last week's points. I have Shaw (53), Lynch (43), and Laird (76), and no intention of trading them out. Rookies ONLY!

Ross

What about Mills to Nank?

PJ King

The Krevis is doing well. Sounds good considering Nank's ability to influence the outcome of games. Mills is looking a little limited.

PJ King

Oh yeah, a midprice correction is acceptable. Just don't touch those premos!

Jib_Jib

What if you've got a premo injury?

PJ King

Depends on the circumstances. Roo, for example, trade.

whatyasmokin

Good to see someone keeping their composure.

Captain Risky

Anyone game to make a call on the Zach Tuohy experiment. Round 1 promising, back to par round 2.

How do we see it from here? Same old same as at Carlton or to early to tell?

PJ King

Too early to make a call on him yet. He's not about to loose cash so he wouldn't be a priority for me. Cash generation is the No. 1 consideration at this point.

Hawks

I'm backing Touhy in.

Nth had a unique (very tall) fwd line which didn't allow Touhy to play the sweeper role across half back. Touhy will be good for 20+ possessions and 1 goal per week (long goal set play).

SCaddict

I wouldn't be touching Tuohy. He has a 90 average which is more than Simmo and Heater right now!

If you were to trade him then it would only be to Marchbank and even then I'd try to work out another way to get Marchy in. Tuohy has been doing his job so far.

whatyasmokin

If you have Tuohy no way would you trade him out, he's doing what any top defender would do scoring wise.

That saying I also wouldn't trade him in.

Randomcliche2

Hey Captain, he be staying in my team cause he rocks. Geelong applied F all pressure for three quarters and he still got 80. I think that is a par, hold.

Captain Risky

Thanks all, Just curious as to peoples opinions.

My starting Def is looking pretty good ATM – Laird, Doch, Lloyd, Tuohy, March- Hampton/Otten/Stewart.

whatyasmokin

Like that backline

Pom

Sterndick to WHE?
I have sterndick in my fwd line as floating donut currently. Nank, sandilands and preuss in rucks.
Fwds : Dahlhouse, Roughy, Taranto, Butler, Hannan, Eddy, Pickett, Sterndick.

Thoughts being to cull a cash cow for a floating donut in a few weeks once they are fat. Will mean no loopholing for a few weeks but on Dangers form currently Im happy.
Or just dropkick pickett out?

Hawks

Like this move

Randomcliche2

Seems fine. But I prefer sdick to witts. Preuss could be a donut when Goldie comes back anyway.

whatyasmokin

You have cash for Sterndck to WHE? What are you waiting for press the dang button!

Tom

Tom Lynch to WHE
Pickett to Higgins

very early and harsh of me to trade lynch but with GC's form and their next few games, the ball won't be coming down to him to often

Jib_Jib

To get the benefit of Lynch you really need to hold him all season. As he's already shown this season he's up and down week to week but over the course of the season he scores pretty well for a fwd. I personally wouldn't be trading him.

jpb

I am having the same thoughts about Lynch , epic team fail on Gold Coast's behalf. I dont see him getting quality scores.

whatyasmokin

Scored 42 SC last year in a similar thrashing. (2016 Round 8. 149-58)

He scored 43 this year, so he is improving 🙂

Still averaged 93 in 2016.

jez_m

Keep the faith Tom. Coughed up a 42 last year vs GWS and what did he do the week after? Racked up 122 with four goals. He'll be up and down but that's the deal with selecting key forwards

Tophawk

Aaron Hall to Clayton Oliver. Thoughts?

Hawks

Yes

Tophawk

Thanks Hawk

Danners

Solid, Oliver probably will even average more than Hall

whatyasmokin

Tis true. I actually just examined his scoring from last year and was shocked at how low his TOG was.

Extremely happy I locked him in from day one.

TheAnointedOne

Hi all…
Keep roughie or

Rough to WHE???

Randomcliche2

Great question, a few have answered this though. Hold.

shogunhawk

Is trading Taranto to M Murphy advisable?

Danners

Advisable if you already have WHE and Marchbank. They would make more cash

shogunhawk

yeah, got those two already. Just a little worried about Taranto's scoring ability while Murphy is a proven commodity. Thanks for the advice.

whatyasmokin

Overpriced rookie to early season bolter who's almost certainly not a keeper. Tough one.

Randomcliche2

Wish I had a spare 200k. Send some my way shogun!

Mitch

Is Nank going to be a top 8 fwd or top 2 ruck?
If yes is it therefore worth it to downgrade a premo to him to pocket the 150k?
Trading a trade for 150k not losing any point generation if he is a top 6 premo.

Jib_Jib

I think he could be a top 8 fwd, but probably not a top 2 ruck

MorrowSC

Even if he doesn't, he was the biggest lock of the pre-season just having the DPP swing in the FWD/RUCK is pivotal to team structure, one of the keys to supercoach is having him on your pine at the end of season to cover any one game "rests" in the ruck, for example, if Melbourne make the 8 wouldn't be suprised if they rest Gawn, essentially covers the two ruck spots and six forward positions, also allows for emergency loophole with Nank and your F6 if you get lucky and don't have any injuries.

Lock. Him. In.

THan

Is it worth trading Mitch hibberb?

Mitch

If he is not playing he is not getting cash. Whereas others will. Depends upon who you need and if it is going to give you enough cash for the cost of a trade.

Hazey

I'm waiting a week to see how Newman at Swannies goes 2nd time around

Moose

Any thoughts on my team ladies and gents?

DEF – Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Otten, McGrath, Hampton (STEWART, EVW)
MID – Danger, Titch, Fyfe, JPK, Beams , Treloar, SPP, Swallow (SPS, Barrett, Parfitt)
RUCK – Sandi, Hickey (Strnadica)
FWD – Buddy, Greene, WHE, Macrae, Steele, Roughy (BUTLER, Eddy)

Pretty happy but would love to get Nank in for the $$ generation.

Used 1 trade Pickett > WHE.

$70,600 left to play.

Cheers.

redgumwon

Trade Roughie to Nankervis

Pom

Hickey to Nank would be my move

Moose

Flip a coin I think.. Hickey was underwhelming in rd 1 but was better last week. On the other hand Roughy should only get better with more matches under his belt. Should have a breakout this week imo.

SC17

I have 90K in the bank and I'm thinking of doing Roughy to WHE and Pickett to Oliver. Thoughts?

redgumwon

It's not a bad move

SC17

Have to change Pickett to Will Brodie to get Oliver

redgumwon

Still not a bad move. The only issue I see is how the Melbourne midfielders will stand up once they play a good side with good hardened midfielders like the Swans and so on. Melbourne really haven't played anyone yet? Oliver will be a hardball beast in the future, For now though he could be a keeper or he could be a good stepping stone to a premo later on down the track

SC17

Do you suggest anyone else besides Oliver and Higgins.

whatyasmokin

Will brodie hasn't even played a game? Of course you should ditch him, Pickett is more valuable even with his crap scores at least he's getting a gig.

jaxyn

have neither WHE or marchbank. do i trade roughy so i can grab both, or trade tarranto and settle for one.thoughts?

whatyasmokin

If it's Roughy and a non-playing or injured rookie, I would just trade and get those seemingly two golden mid pricers in.

Randomcliche2

Hold, or Marchy if your def strucure really needs it.

Daniel

Hello community, i need some advice. I have Houston and Eddy on the bench with Jack Steele and Roughhead F5 &6 but need to get Hoski-Elliot and Dan Butler.

Do i pull the trigger on both, one or none?

Cheers

SCaddict

I'd keep Steele around at least another week and hope Rd2 was an anomaly. We saw how well he can score in Rd1 so you really need to give him another crack under the Dome against the Lions.

So then it comes down to whether you trade Roughie for WHE. I'd probably lean the way of again keeping Roughie especially with the Hawks playing the abysmal Suns this weekend. Still WHE looks mighty tasty so if a coach really wanted to go that way and had no better way to bring him in then I could understand you making that call, even though I'd probably hold Roughie myself.

Whilst I think Butler will be a decent rookie I'm not sure I'd go out of my way to bust up my team to get him.

Pom

Forward line sounds stacked if they are your 5 and 6. If your mid is weak/has a spud can you use dpp of fwd line player to move him back to the mids to make room for WHE in fwd line?

Daniel

Hey mate, my mids are solid too

Dangerfield Pendles Fyfe Beams Watson SPP O'meara Swallow

Defense is weak

Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Shaw Otten and Hampton

Solid squad, 280k in the bank

Smith and Hibberd my dud rookies.

Looking at doing these trades purely for cash generation as so many underperforming rookies. Don't want to miss the boat. Roughhead may not score as well as hoped in a weakened Hawks side. Steele could go large so I'm hesitant to move home on….. Decisions decisions

Dunnowat2do

Gary Ablett to Clayton Oliver…

Ablett looked like he was playing injured last game..

redgumwon

Maybe Gaz to the Bonte or Joel Selwood?

Captain Risky

Probably what i'll do, make a bit of cash with Oliver, OK points, and a few $ reserves. Could go straight to Bont or Pendles or ….?? which might make more logical sense but cash generation seems more important right now.

Ablett will no doubt come out and smash it this week but he doesn't look interested based on the last 2 games, so I can't see it lasting.

Daniel

The cash that you are saving will need to be used to upgrade Oliver to a premo around the byes – as good as he's been playing, he won't be a top 10 midfield by the end of the season.

If you're trading out a premo, bring in a premo – don't forget your goal is full premo.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Bewitching podcast fellas love ya work

Good to see Jock up and about and as usual you speak on behalf of all of us "Just kick the bloody thing"!

If that doesn't work well there is always Alcohol.
Name your poison. A fine wine, Claytons down at Murphs. Crouching great form once again

Higgo not even going to attempt your tongue twister will take it on board

Pod on ….

Mat

Trade gaz or use him to bring in the likes of Hoskin Elliott???

mich

is WHE an absolute must? I'd have to make 2 trades to get him in…I'd also have to move dahlhaus to mid which would move SPP to the bench. Forward line would have WHE, Houston, Butler on field.
The trades i'm leaning towards are K.Simpson to T.Adams then Picket to WHE.

I'd be getting rid of the spud that is Picket but it makes my team a lot less flexible

I'm going mental here someone talk me down

whatyasmokin

What happened to Simpson?

mich

Nothing he just allows me to get enough cash for picket > WHE.
Theres no other players that I need to trade out, its purely to get WHE's cash generation at the expense of a premo-premo trade

maybe i need sleep

crusher

same issue here to get WHE in I need to trade tarranto and move dahlous to the middle and spp on bench. Is this a good idea

SCaddict

It was already a close call but the added drawback of losing playing SPP onfield probably tilts things towards not making that trade. As you could end up losing net points per week in that scenario plus being down a trade which probably outweighs the cash generation benefits of WHE.

So you just might have to pass up on him unfortunately.

Mich

Thankyou, voices of reason!

Daniel

Someone said earlier in the comments, he'll be a great rookie but don't do it at the expense of breaking up your team.
It sounds like you'd be breaking up your team just to get him in.

King

I'm hanging onto him despite price drop next week, so probably going to have him all year. I assume that at some point if he keeps underperforming he will be so cheap that everyone will jump on and then he becomes very relevant and then his scores will get inflated from the suspect guys putting up the scores…….
Also, anyone else think we should get 30 trades per year but unlimited each round? Could just be because it would be nice to use the three this round but seems like it would be better way to use strategy…..same guys blowing all early, others holding nerve and saving some till late despite temptations. Anyway just a thought.

whatyasmokin

Do you even know how CD scores SC points? I assume no.

Unlimited trades per round would mean everyone would have practically the same team.

Russ in W.A

He said 30 trades per round but as many trades as you want to use in each round, so you could effectively FCK your team within 6 rounds, what ya smokin, whatyasmokin? 🙂

Russ in W.A

Sorry, I meant to type, He said 30 trades per season.

CrazyMatt

True but every team would be the same after round 2 is what I meant, as everyone could correct to all best rookies, other cash cows etc.

whatyasmokin

Oops changed my name due to a rockspider

King

All I know is that the more relevant players all of a sudden seem to be having a bigger impact on game and have scores inflated. And I'm ranked in 1000 (despite bloody hanners), so I have been on receiving end of the overly generous scores, so this isn't just sour grapes, but when otten gets around same score as trelor even though trelor has 35 and two goals…..

King

Even if you factor in the 5 clangers I should add! Still ridiculous to me. Maybe I'm just still burning about trelor still 🙂

LetsGo

Thoughts on Roughead to Nank? I don't have any back-up for sandilands atm and I feel that if nank can hold the number one ruck position at the tiges he can avg 90+ from here on out, which is enough to be keeper in the forward line.

SCaddict

I'd do it. Roughie could work out but he also might not. By time we've determined that Nank could be priced over $500K and that ship will have sailed. So I'd act now and get the Nank in now whilst you can as I'm sure that ruck cover will come in handy at some point during the season. And even if you don't use I'd still back the Nank in to be a top 6 forward in his own right.

whatyasmokin

It's easy to say hold trades because I started with Nank. (And Oliver, Marchbank, WHE,Witts)

But yeah if in that position I'd probably trade, as long as my rookies weren't falling apart.

macca

hey community could you suggest some trades im not sure if i should trade hanners to get one of marchbank or whe or should i get butler

Laird, Shaw, Rance, Otten, Stewart, Hampton, (smith hibberd)

Danger, mitchell, fyfe, beams, treloar, powell pepper, omeara, hand on berry (barret, pickett, mountford)

Gawn, sandilands (cameron)

Higgins, Franklin, nankervis, dahlhous, houston, hannan (eddy, parfitt)

whatyasmokin

I see 4 zeros that is a lot for week 3.