PODCAST: Supercoach Round 3
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what are people thoughts on Trent Cotchin has had a real good start to the year and looks to be playing good footys as are the tigers, only in 1.2% teams so i have a feeling he could be a sneaky POD trade from Jack Steven is this a good trade? or am i better off going with another mid under 550k
any help would be appreciated
Go for it! You (and me…) picked Steven as a POD so it makes sense to replace him with one. He's more durable than the injury discounted mids and is a proven scorer.
Really really risky, the only way it pays off is if he finishes top 10 mid, Even as a big Cotchin fan myself I don't see that happening.
Not even a hand me down Brownlow makes him relevant. Pick him & enjoy the dissapointment
hahaha
He could have a really good year Callum, and so could the Tigers, so trust your gut. The past doesn't set the future in stone.
Go for it he's a Brownlow medallist apparently so he must be able to play a bit
Hmmm, hard one. Could be good, but plenty of other unique options – Robbie Gray 1.6%, Sloane 3.6%, Wines 2.5%, Shuey 1.0%, Shiel 2.4%, Neale 2.8%, Zorko 3.5%, Merritt 4.2%, Priddis 3.3%.
Even the great Rocky is only 6.5% owned which makes him pretty unique. Putting Cotch up against these guys makes it a tough decision! Agree he, and the Tigers, look pretty good early on. Given Martin is basically untaggable, does he attract the tag at some stage?
Treloar to Wines
Roughy to WHE
Treloar efficiency is worrying. Ave 102 is not good enough
Leaves $421,000 in bank.
It's only been two rounds……
Have you watched his games. He is shocking by foot. If I am paying over $600,000 I want scores for what I paid. Will he finish in the top 8 mids? On this form no. Plus he left the training track early yesterday.
Yes I understand what your saying but have a look at the way Jpk started last year. And then ended as 3rd highest averaging mid, so it's just silly to trade him he's a gun and he can only improve it's only round 3
Ollie Wines isn't the most efficient kick either hahahah
Didn't Wines have he second most clangers last season? I'm sure I heard jock & Higgo discussing that during a pod. Has to be considered
His low scores last year were 73, 81, 85, 86, 89 and still averaged 111.2
'If I am paying over $600,000 I want scores for what I paid'
I can't stop laughing.
Treloar is smashing it. Why would you trade him? Watch him play, not the score. that will correct itself in no time. He will average very well this year.
Exactly, I have him and am happy so far. he is on track to have a big year.
Treloar is an absolute must hold imo. I have him and he's going nowhere. I also have Roughie and see no reason to move him just yet with a BE well below his season average. Could kick a bag against the basket case Suns this weekend.
If Treloar and Roughie are you worst problems the you must have a pretty decent side. There are plenty of coaches holding far worse hands than that right now.
Here hear.
Krups there is literally no logic in trading him.. Worst case scenario is that he drops down 20k. The kid is probably better than 90% of your other players in your team. Surely you have other stains to remove at the moment.
shit trades boi
Agree hold off on those trades.
35 and 33 disposals in the first two games. He is going fine just needs to clean his disposals up a bit.
First trade is just chasing points and highly amateurish.
Treloar will dominate this week, he loves the SCG, I'll be putting VC on him !
I'm holding Treloar, I reckon he's been stiff with CDs scoring. Just compare Heppells stats from the weekend and you'll see Treloar should've got atleast 120.
Yep, trade Treloar out and as soon as you do, the 130-140's will come, bad move imo. Roughy up against Gold coast could go huge, you must have a better way to get WHE.
Keep Treloar – gun and likely top 10 mid. Finding the ball real well inside and out, small efficiency gains will boost his scoring. Perfect age to go to the elite level, working with a good ruckman and great midfield, back him in and keep your trade. Find another way to get WHE
Kev, who gave great pre-season player reports pointed something out to me on twitter.
Treloar averaged something like 92 SC points in games Collingwood lost in 2016. Therefore, currently averaging 102 in Collingwood losses is above last years average (over 3 games, admittedly). Imagine if they start winning and if he starts kicking more accurately…HOLD!
Wasteful trading. If Treloar averages 102 by season's end, then you can't blame him if your team under-achieves. Also, I doubt Wines will average more than him by season's end.
Those trades are absurd as far as im concerned both those trades are side ways trades.
What to do with Roo – any updates on the young kid? Hold or trade??
Cracking Podcast Lads
Smith out Otten in.
Roughy out WHE in.
Bang bang.
1st trade good, Roughy is a hold for mine tho
Just can't see him being a top 10 forward. Might as well make the cash and to do that I need someone with job security. WHElcome my team.
I agree Roughy can't be a top 10 if Hawks don't make the 8. Yes I just said that 🙂
Hanners to Bont????
If you really love the Bont do it,
I'm doing it
I'd do it, Bont rubs champ data the right way
You mean he does the right things in game to get supercoach points………….
Something like that smokin' but I think mich might be smokin what treloar is growin' and feels a little let down by the honest folk at champion data
i'd do it, Bont for Brownlow 2017
Would it be wise to trade Ryder down to WHE.. can't decide what's better.
Hold Ryder for mine
I'm in the same position mate, WHE is a must but it's Taranto that gets the chop for me.
Why would you trade Taranto? He's going to make money too. The difference at this stage would be negligible and certainly not worth a valuable trade. Hold him.
If you have no other way to get WHE in this week I'd probably consider it as Ryder has always been an unreliable performer at the best of times. So it's no surprise he's let you down so far. He's done that to plenty of coaches in the past.
Nevertheless he could still end up being a good keeper this season despite an uninspired start fantasy-wise so you will just have to trust your gut on that one.
Currently weighing on Tarranto and Pickett as other options.. Still not sure but i think im leaning on Ryder at the moment. Guess i'll wait til the rookies are named.
If you have the cash to do Pickett>WHE that seems a no brainer considering his scoring capabilities so far.
Giday Lach, yes I believe that is a wise choice as Ryder is crap in my opinion, he gets suspended for a year and a chance at a new club and he produces this crap?…glad I didn't pick him, ever, all he's ever done is let Supercoaches down.
I still think Hanners should be a Hold
Yeah I'm in two minds youngy
A) hold and hope he is worthy of m8 final premo
B) get in a young gun like Wines or Bont who are rdy for elite premo and are durable
Either way I got to find cash for WHE by flogging off ShitPick
Have Hickey too lol
Based off two games you're already asking the question if his worthy of an m8 premo? he's been super elite in the past couple years and his only 26. He has missed around 5 games for the last 6 years which shows he is extremely durable. Have a very long think before trading him out mate
Passion…wisdom…..humour…….got it all. Simply irresistible!!
Thanks Mr. New York Times.
Can not believe people are off loading Shaw and omeara and Roughy, ??? Bright sparks, Roughy i can understand a little but give him time, or not,,, good luck,,,,,,,,,,
You picked your Premos for a reason, don't give up on them after 2 rounds.
You will run out of TRADES
Agreed
Definitely agree with you Youngy, but people just still don't get it
That's why I don't care about starting with a bakroll, I will shoot up the ranks in no time due to others mistakes.
They trade a player because they are under their average, then they chase a player scoring well.
Player traded has some good scores, player chased has their low scores.
People don't understand averages.
You should be dispensing advice outside some un named gaming venue smokin, they won't listen there either
Depends on how much the "premo" cost you, and whether they're a fallen or returning premo such as Roughy, I can perfectly understand people preferring to trade Roughead to someone like WHE or Higgins this week, someone trading Treloar on the other hand, is silly and is chasing scores. Treloar's a keeper..as are Shaw and O'Meara…maybe.
I would hold O'Meara but he is not a keeper. If he finishes as a top 10 mid I'll eat my hat.
Make hay, premos stay otherwise you'll lose your way
Taranto to WHE? Good move or waste of a trade… what you reckon fellas?
We could argue either way to the cash cows come home on that one. I have serious doubts about both the cash generating potential and JS of Taranto despite scoring well against the witches hat Suns.
So if you have no other way to get on WHE in I agree with Jock that I would likely pull the trigger there. But you could easily make an argument for holding Taranto and just missing out on WHE too, saving that trade.
Thoughts on Taranto to Sam Reid? I have 200k in the bank so dosh isn't the problem
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
Was thinking the same thing – but just wanted to get everyone's opinion. You have to admit he looks pretty good though….
13 touches and 7 marks week one.
15 touches 5 marks week two.
Not huge numbers, anyone can string together a couple of good weeks in supercoach.
Can you go Tarranto to Oliver?
Yeah but then I have SPP on the bench in the midfield. Waste of a gun.
Ahh
Next week he'll FCK something up on his body that'll keep him out of the side for 2/3 of the season, don't fall for that trap.
O'Meara out… WHE and Marchbank in. Is this worth it or am I crazy?
Trading out an inside midfielder that had 36 touches last week, and cost a paltry 318K, you're bat sheet crazy.
Only 6 kicks, 30 handballs at only 66% DE. You'd think he could of had better DE given he hardly kicked it.
Next week kick the bloody thing!!
If he was 400K+ I'd be concerned
100% agree! OMeara will improve week in week out and he plays Gold Coast this week!!!!!!!
Agree, u are crazy if u trade out Omeara
O'Meara could average 80 for the next 6 weeks…then would they be crazy for trading him this week?, he never averaged more than 95 , even when he wasn't broken.
I bought O'meara (injury trade) over those 2 last week. Each to their own!
Yep your barking mad JOM is ok and likely to get better, the ins you suggest are hardly certainties find another way if you really want them you could always save your trades till later, you won't have your perfect team at round three but who will
I will laugh myself to sleep if WHE puts in a shocker…LMAO
To the people that traded out Robbie Gray last week this should be a lesson not to jump into trades based on one or two performances!
Need to grab the cash as don't have either Marchbank or Hoskin Elliot, so need to dump one of these boys.
Z Jones or Jarryd Roughead traded out?
I'm in the same situation but holding trades even with Mcarthy stinking up my forward line! WHE is overrated!
Geez not sure I would be holding McCarthy.
Freo have been ordinary and struggled to get the ball into the fwd line
He is reliant on goals to score. Kicked 6 in JLT scored 86.
Swap to WHE would be wise as he is going to go up quickly in cash and is ensconced in the best 22
Trade McCarthy to anyone you can. He's an awful supercoach scorer.
You might need to start planning for season 2018 instead then.
Demon spud if that was my dilemma I'd pull both of those trades. Cash in the bank & cash coming
Jones
Thoughts on Roughead for Hoskin-Elliot? Was thinking trading out Taranto but hoping he will generate more cash than roughy?
Agreed. Taranto will make much faster cash than Roughy, but the sacrifice is JS.
JS?
Job Security
Taranto should get a decent run at least until Deledio and coniglio are right to go, first week was a little disappointing second week ok that's exactly what we should expect from a rookie, why not let him roll along, make some money and move him out when gws do the same?.
Why did you pick Roughy? To generate cash or as a potential keeper? At his price he was ever s great cash generation option, If as a keeper you need to hold and give the bloke a chance. Has Suns this week, might kick a bag! Taranto you obviously picked for cash generation, if you think he's not doing his job then omit him for WHE or someone else you think will make $$$.
Excellent podcast fellas, I still haven't received an email from you guys regarding winning the prize in coachkings. Has there been a mistake or am I just an extremely impatient person.
Cheers fellas.
Mine came through on the Monday but it was in the junk mail box
I came in the top 5 and mine hasnt come through either…
I was right there all night ,finished just outside top 10 ,,well done mate ,
Emails .? How bout a knock on the door and a giant Check with Jock & Crouching holding a case of Bundy …
Really unsure on trades
Players who have been concerning me are KK, Hanners, Pickett and Parfitt. I don't have Hoskin-Elliot or Butler. If I trade KK via DP switch I have a 2 premo, 4 rookie backline. What trades should I make to get both Hoskin-Elliot and Butler in? $3,330 in the bank
Hanners to Smurph
Pickett to WHE
130K in the bank
That's my move this week
I already have Butler though.
Thinking of making the same trades, not sold on Murph as yet.
Thoughts on Ryan Burton and Will Hayward?
Price is a bit awkward for me and he wont do that every week, alot of his possi's were easy backline handballs,id wait on him and need to see more of Hayward, but he looks good, ill wait another week for both at least, Burton will be a gun though,,,,,,
Wait and c
Burton has a very valuable Fwd/Def DPP. On my watchlist because of that.
Ryan Burton way too much coin. Reassess Hayward next week
Have another look at Burton this week Thomas, to see if he can back it up or if he does a Hannan, and stinks it up second week.
Mills to Newman and Taranto to the Bont. What's your thoughts guys
LOVE IT !!
Gold
Now there's a BANG BANG, awesome.
Laird – Howe – Mills -Hibberd
Marchbank- Otten – Hampton -Stewart
Dangerfield – Pendles – Treloar – Miles
– Fyfe – Beams – JOM -Parfitt
Swallow – Powell Pepper -Barret
Grundy – Sandilands -Witts
Franklin – Dahlhaus – Caddy -Pickett
Nankervis – Taranto – Houston. -Eddy
What trades should I make ???
No trades needed. You are in a good place with this team. Leaving a lot of points on the bench with Witts, but that was always the issue with that structure.
If I rookie is not named I would consider trading them to Butler
Only one I could see is trying to get WHE in, but I'm guessing you don't have the cash for a straight-trade.
I have 220k or something in bank
Pickett>WHE using your bankroll.
Or Parfitt/Miles/Barret if dropped. (Swing taranto to mid bench)
Tarantino out for a cheapo like Hannan or Butler pocket cash
Thoughts on Aaron Hall? Got him as a POD but may have made a bad mistake. Trade or not? Only got $25K in the bank after getting WHE in.
I feel your unease on Hall Pags. I think many of us had our doubts on him considering what happened last year when his own coach dumped him back to the NEAFL. If he started with two poor scores in a row then combined with what we know about his history and where the Suns again appear to be tracking this season I think that would be enough to advise the ole wooshka treatment.
HOWEVER he did have that huge 118 in Rd1 so that muddies the decision for me as there is no doubt he has a very fantasy relevant game if he is allowed to play it. So he could easily ton up against the Hawks this weekend but that 44 in Rd2 does look particularly nasty in his rolling price change should he and the Suns spud it up again.
If you were to trade him then realistically Beams, Smurph and Oliver are your main options given your cash situation. None of those guys are sure things either so there is a definite risk of a backfire if you do trade him.
You hold him now, you hold him for good because he's got a tough run coming up.
Looking at his previous scoring he doesn't fare well against good teams.
Don't trade he's alright
Check upcoming opponents and scores against them. He's a flat track bully.
Round 9 bye too.
Only my 2nd year Jock & somehow found myself in 701 possy overall ,had strategy for H2H battles this year but now must rethink This ,I've got all the right cash rookies only Hibberd as a trade Thi week,but was thinking of Roughie to Higgins & bringing in Newman next week For Hibberd is that move sideways #Higgins
Looks ok, but then Higgins gets 75 next week and Roughy gets 130.
Rough to higgins is a slight upgrade for mine.
Agree, but only a slight upgrade.
I think he'll prefer to have that trade to make a full upgrade in a month or two.
Have a few stains to remove though not sure as it's only Rd 2 and trades are precious…
Concerns are Taranto, Barrett, M.Crouch, Pickett, Parfitt, J.Smith (inj) & Hibberd (NM).
Option 1 – Taranto to WHE
Option 2 – Crouch & Barrett to Beams/Murphy & WHE
Option 3 – Pickett & Smith to Butler & Newman
Option 4 – HOLD.
Appreciate Community feedback.
Option 2. In my humble opinion. Go Murphy.
Thanks "Jerry". Murphy in hot form but can he keep it going? Crouch a break out pre-season prediction that just has to stop hand-balling so much. Tough call.
Crouch is going ok, handballing off is his job.
The Matt Crouch breakout was a myth, I think the Titch one is too, but it has more merit than the Crouch theory.
Well crouch isn't, and never was a keeper. Trade out for WHE, unless you have enough bank to go Pickett to WHE.
Taranto you have to keep now….surely. Started with him have some faith, you couldn't actually expect 100's from a first year player.
No reason to trade barrett he is going fine, just needs one decent score now.
Option 3 is ok-ish but there's so many sydney rookies floating around I don't like their JS, and have avoided all of them so far.
Newman does look good though, and now Hayward has scored well.
Of those options, I'd go 4.
Option 1 – Taranto will make money, so you're banking on WHE making either a lot more money or making it a lot faster. While WHE will make more money and do it faster, it isn't worth the value of a trade IMO.
Option 2 – You picked Crouch as a premo – no injury, no role change, then you keep him for the same reason you picked him (if you look back at his stats, he's not handballing much more than previous years – maybe 2-3 per game).
Option 3 – Smith should go for injury (I think he's out for a couple of months) but to trade him to a 1-game rookie is a mistake. Only pick Newman if he's named for his 3rd game. Pickett-Butler I don't mind but again, might not be worth a trade at this stage.
Thanks Nietzsche.
Pending team selections, Option 4 looks the goods.
Hoping for Crouch & Taranto to improve next few weeks.
Another I did not consider until Comminity comments…
Option 5 which I think can work –
J.Smith to Butler via DPP.
Lock it in, good rookie correction.
I did that last week good move
Thoughts on my team
Def: Simpson, Laird, Tuohy, Hampton, Otten, Stewart (HIBBERD, SMITH)
Mid: Danger, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Fyfe, TMitch, O'Meara, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, MOUNTFORD)
Ruc: Gawn, Sandi (STRNADICA)
Fwd: JJK, Lynch, Roughy, Steele, Butler, Houston (Eddy, Parfitt)
Any trades you can suggest community?
Maybe thinking Mountford to Hanaan or another rookie trades
Ranked 23000 at the moment
Hoping for a few good weeks
Thanks community
Mountford &Hibbered are the ones ,have you got any cash banked ,defs Hannan with Job security as Hogans gone youd think …
Smith aswell mate must go ..
Have 43k left
Might wait a week on Hibberd/Smith to get Newman
Also, thinking strnadica to preuss
But strnadica is there for a loophole is he not?
Otherwise you would've started with Witts/Cameron/Preuss surely as your R3.
Would consider Steele to Nank. Better cash and gives you ruck cover
Out of left field but perhaps trade Sandi to Witts then use the cash to trade Smith to Marchbank. Two non playing rookies in defence is a worry, you can easily get rid of Mountford next week either to Newman (via hibberd) or Hayward (via parfitt). Trading in Hannan is still a good move though. Good luck.
You have nobody playing on that back bench…………damn that's risky for a donut on a late out.
Trades this week:
Smith-Marchbank: LTI trade
Parfitt-Butler: much better cash gen rookie + JS concerns for Parfitt.
Only leaves me with $20K in bank.
Thoughts?
My team now:
DEF: Adams, Heater, Simmo, Otten, Stewart, Hampton, Marchbank, ZGuthrie
MID: Danger, Fyfe, JPK, Beams, Treloar, Prestia, SPP, JOM, Barrett, Pickett, Mountford
RUC: Witts, Sandi, Preuss
FWD: Nank, Buddy, Macrae, Dahl, Roughy, Hannan, Butler, Eddy
What is Hannans job security mate (55k rise) ,his Job security is the only concern &with Hogan out he might get some more games .not Tha he's a FFwd but numbers wise up Fwd..instead of Butler ..
Personally don't see Hogan out affecting his JS at all.
That last game of only 10 touches and a 60% DE is worrying.
I'd say it'd be better than Parfitt's after last week! Have cover in Butler & Eddy anyway for the moment.
He should be fine for JS yeah, but wouldn't surprise me if he's rested for one soonish. Quite normal though and I'd hold him even if rested of course.
If I had Gaz, he would be my C this week
He will respond
I was thinking the same but why risk it when you have Danger and Fyfe
Why risk it when you have danger, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Gawn……..who do I choose. Haha
So far his response has been to sign up for a paid interview on the footy show, wouldn't have thought he had a cash flow problem. Poor form, tried to get out of the joint in trade week, it all has a bad smell about it. Hope he finds a way to finish up with a bit of class because he has been a super star. The key phrase being has been
Thoughts community?
Too many rookies not playing or spuds. So contemplating Omeara to WHE, Smith to marchbank?
Leave my team looking like
Shaw Adams laird marchbank Hampton otten- hibberd Stewart
Danger Selwood Rockliff Bonty Fyfe Macrae beams spp- Barrett Pickett mountford
Gawn sandi- strandica
Dahl Higgins Nankervis WHe butler Houston- eddy parfutt
Sarah, I wouldn't be trading out O'Meara.
In just his 2nd match after 18 months out of the game he had 36 possessions. He is a ball magnet. His knee is holding-up well, he's getting to contests and winning them (19 contested disposals last week). The efficiency of disposal will return in coming weeks.
O'Meara is about to become very fantasy relevant IMO.
Bloke costing 300K gets an 89 and gets traded………
I'm not sure where all this crazy is coming from.
Imo you want those players you are going to sacrifice a premo, which is not a good move, but O'meara is a crucial part of your team value increasing over the year and even could be a keeper.
What did you do with the goldilocks cash? Anyways, Marchy would be a nice d4, but I think you watch Friday nights match, check Newman okay and just got there for Hibb jnr next week. Keep Smith as loop as nth have to many early games. If Newman spuds it up, then strongly consider…the cheaper rookies will come. Save those trades.
Whilst I agree with the other guys that JOM needs to be held by nearly all his owners this week I don't think what you are proposing is a terrible idea. You will be getting in two excellent cash cows with solid JS which will definitely help you plug some holes. So I think it could be worth sacrificing JOM for in your particular situation.
However you could also just wait a week and jump on Newman and maybe Hayward the following week as you may not have any onfield donuts this week unless there are some surprise injuries/omissions in your defence. Although their JS is unlikely to rival Marchbank and WHE so you have to weigh that up too.
But an inside midfielder who got 36 touches last week has so much scoring potential.
Marchbank and WHE are far more likely to pump out a 50 odd here and there, not to mention 2 trades per player will be used in and out again.
pros and cons I guess.
Yeah ideally I keep Omeara, but I think he'll be a slow burn. Whe and marchbank will probably make the same amount of cash as him..
I'm thinkin long term to solidifying my bench.. cause I'm not seeing many reliable rookies at all this year.
Keep JOM is obvious if you can get the Smith marchbank trade done on it's own then we'll and good, your team looks really good imo, maybe just cool ya jets while others rage and panic trade save your own trades it's a long season and trades up your sleeve just get more valuable as we go on
Def rookies – McGrath, Hampton, Otten, Stewart, Macreadie, Newman (Berry)
Mid rookies – SPP, SPS, Barrett, Miles, Pickett, Parfitt (McCluggage)
Forward rookies – Taranto, Turner, Butler, Hannan, Houston, Eddy, Hayward.
These are all the decent rookies around, there are heaps.
All these guys played last week, and should play this week, many are on the bubble and will profit.
In brackets are up and coming rookies.
So many seem to expect 100 plus from rookies or they want to show them the door straight away. I reckon it is shaping up as an interesting year a lot of quite similar starting line ups scattered in many directions very early.
Great looking team, not the worse idea when you're able to get two of the best rookies with scoring potential and cash generation possibilities. Don't mind the trades.
I am considering trading Sandilands to WHE (Via Nankervis Swing) as I think this is the only viable way to get WHE into my team. What do you guys think? Definitely won't trade Taranto, though not sure if WHE is worth getting tbh. Cheers
I would trade Taranto, Sandi will make good coin, and Nank scores enough to be a top fwd.
I would be keeping Sandi and trying to find a different way to WHE. I know we are all looking for alternative ways to raise $$$ this season but Sandi should still make decent coin.
Seriously?
Sandi projected to go up 40K.
Still fit to play, could go big at any moment.
Do yourself a favour. Take your mouse and put it in a bucket of water. Freeze it. Defrost next monday. Your Rnd 18 self will thank you for it.
1st trade is a lock. McCarthy to WHE.
Other trade not so sure. Can go Simpkin to Butler, leaving enough cash to go Taranto to Swallow next week if needed. (Had Swallow and changed him to Taranto when he was late withdrawal)
Or can go Simpkin to Witts, swinging Strndica on fwd bench.
Thoughts?
Probably the first two trades if simpkin isn't going to make cash.
All we should be doing this round is corrective rookie trades. Don't touch your premos chasing last week's points. I have Shaw (53), Lynch (43), and Laird (76), and no intention of trading them out. Rookies ONLY!
What about Mills to Nank?
The Krevis is doing well. Sounds good considering Nank's ability to influence the outcome of games. Mills is looking a little limited.
Oh yeah, a midprice correction is acceptable. Just don't touch those premos!
What if you've got a premo injury?
Depends on the circumstances. Roo, for example, trade.
Good to see someone keeping their composure.
Anyone game to make a call on the Zach Tuohy experiment. Round 1 promising, back to par round 2.
How do we see it from here? Same old same as at Carlton or to early to tell?
Too early to make a call on him yet. He's not about to loose cash so he wouldn't be a priority for me. Cash generation is the No. 1 consideration at this point.
I'm backing Touhy in.
Nth had a unique (very tall) fwd line which didn't allow Touhy to play the sweeper role across half back. Touhy will be good for 20+ possessions and 1 goal per week (long goal set play).
I wouldn't be touching Tuohy. He has a 90 average which is more than Simmo and Heater right now!
If you were to trade him then it would only be to Marchbank and even then I'd try to work out another way to get Marchy in. Tuohy has been doing his job so far.
If you have Tuohy no way would you trade him out, he's doing what any top defender would do scoring wise.
That saying I also wouldn't trade him in.
Hey Captain, he be staying in my team cause he rocks. Geelong applied F all pressure for three quarters and he still got 80. I think that is a par, hold.
Keep faith Capt. 25 possessions, 3rd most for the Cats. He's doing the job we asked for.
Thanks all, Just curious as to peoples opinions.
My starting Def is looking pretty good ATM – Laird, Doch, Lloyd, Tuohy, March- Hampton/Otten/Stewart.
Like that backline
Sterndick to WHE?
I have sterndick in my fwd line as floating donut currently. Nank, sandilands and preuss in rucks.
Fwds : Dahlhouse, Roughy, Taranto, Butler, Hannan, Eddy, Pickett, Sterndick.
Thoughts being to cull a cash cow for a floating donut in a few weeks once they are fat. Will mean no loopholing for a few weeks but on Dangers form currently Im happy.
Or just dropkick pickett out?
Like this move
Seems fine. But I prefer sdick to witts. Preuss could be a donut when Goldie comes back anyway.
You have cash for Sterndck to WHE? What are you waiting for press the dang button!
Tom Lynch to WHE
Pickett to Higgins
very early and harsh of me to trade lynch but with GC's form and their next few games, the ball won't be coming down to him to often
To get the benefit of Lynch you really need to hold him all season. As he's already shown this season he's up and down week to week but over the course of the season he scores pretty well for a fwd. I personally wouldn't be trading him.
I am having the same thoughts about Lynch , epic team fail on Gold Coast's behalf. I dont see him getting quality scores.
Scored 42 SC last year in a similar thrashing. (2016 Round 8. 149-58)
He scored 43 this year, so he is improving 🙂
Still averaged 93 in 2016.
Keep the faith Tom. Coughed up a 42 last year vs GWS and what did he do the week after? Racked up 122 with four goals. He'll be up and down but that's the deal with selecting key forwards
Aaron Hall to Clayton Oliver. Thoughts?
Yes
Thanks Hawk
Solid, Oliver probably will even average more than Hall
Tis true. I actually just examined his scoring from last year and was shocked at how low his TOG was.
Extremely happy I locked him in from day one.
Spot on smokin' . Melbourne was clearly the worst developer of young players going back pre Roos. They turned that around and Oliver is the perfect example, round one rising star last year and they managed his TOG and then sent him back to VFL numerous times but not ever for poor form, it was all about a controlled development with him and he is ready to go now. He costs less than 400 k. I don't think you'll ever get him this cheap again
Round 20 last year melbourne defeats hawks.
65% TOG – SC 98 – 23 touches – 8 clearances – 11 tackles
Round 21 melbourne defeat port adelaide
65% TOG – SC 88 – 22 touches – 7 clearances
Round 3 North defeats melbourne
65% TOG – SC 90 – 26 touches – 7 clearances
Just a few examples I grabbed from last year, for a first year player really incredible imo.
Yep, the only concern I have is how he goes if anything goes wrong with max. Max was pretty much bog in each of the games you mentioned. Melb might bring Spencer in now with Hogan missing so they have forward options this changes things with max fwd more maybe Oliver doesn't miss a beat but who knows
Well if he doesn't get the ball he'll tackle whoever gets it haha.
Not concerned if he doesn't continue quite as well because I started with him and he'll be a nice stepping stone or M7/M8
Smokin the word now is Spencer will play. It will be interesting and revealing to see the impact it has on Oliver. Personally given his price I reckon he is still gold but it might frighten a few off. I've got max also so it will be a risky couple of weeks, not even considering a panic trade….
Hi all…
Keep roughie or
Rough to WHE???
Great question, a few have answered this though. Hold.
Is trading Taranto to M Murphy advisable?
Advisable if you already have WHE and Marchbank. They would make more cash
yeah, got those two already. Just a little worried about Taranto's scoring ability while Murphy is a proven commodity. Thanks for the advice.
Overpriced rookie to early season bolter who's almost certainly not a keeper. Tough one.
Wish I had a spare 200k. Send some my way shogun!
Is Nank going to be a top 8 fwd or top 2 ruck?
If yes is it therefore worth it to downgrade a premo to him to pocket the 150k?
Trading a trade for 150k not losing any point generation if he is a top 6 premo.
I think he could be a top 8 fwd, but probably not a top 2 ruck
Even if he doesn't, he was the biggest lock of the pre-season just having the DPP swing in the FWD/RUCK is pivotal to team structure, one of the keys to supercoach is having him on your pine at the end of season to cover any one game "rests" in the ruck, for example, if Melbourne make the 8 wouldn't be suprised if they rest Gawn, essentially covers the two ruck spots and six forward positions, also allows for emergency loophole with Nank and your F6 if you get lucky and don't have any injuries.
Lock. Him. In.
Thoughts on the these trades:
Bowes – Houston
Smith – Marchbank
Already have WHE, Butler and Hannan, so Houston is next best option, although I'm concerned with his JS.
I'd wait for the teams to be announced before bringing in Houston, or any rookie whose JS you're not sure about.
Would you bring him in if he gets named this week? His biggest issue is does he keep his spot when Pittard is back.
His disposal efficiency is great.
Byrne-Jones is going to get dumped imo.
Byrne Jones disposal eff.
62.5% vs Freo
46.7% vs Sydney
Houston 83.3% in both games.
Depends if Pittard is also named. If both named I'd definitely go for him, if not then you'd have to weigh up the risk
At the end of the day, if you don't get Houston this week you could always go for Will Hayward next week. I've got all of the rookies except Witts and Houston and I'm fortunate that that my structures are good (I didn't go 2-0-6 in defence thank god!) so I'm going to let Houston slide so this week so I can make 2 corrective trades. Next week I'll bring in Hayward.
The houston trade is funding the Smith to Marchbank trade
Is it worth trading Mitch hibberb?
If he is not playing he is not getting cash. Whereas others will. Depends upon who you need and if it is going to give you enough cash for the cost of a trade.
I'm waiting a week to see how Newman at Swannies goes 2nd time around
Any thoughts on my team ladies and gents?
DEF – Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Otten, McGrath, Hampton (STEWART, EVW)
MID – Danger, Titch, Fyfe, JPK, Beams , Treloar, SPP, Swallow (SPS, Barrett, Parfitt)
RUCK – Sandi, Hickey (Strnadica)
FWD – Buddy, Greene, WHE, Macrae, Steele, Roughy (BUTLER, Eddy)
Pretty happy but would love to get Nank in for the $$ generation.
Used 1 trade Pickett > WHE.
$70,600 left to play.
Cheers.
Trade Roughie to Nankervis
Hickey to Nank would be my move
Flip a coin I think.. Hickey was underwhelming in rd 1 but was better last week. On the other hand Roughy should only get better with more matches under his belt. Should have a breakout this week imo.
I have 90K in the bank and I'm thinking of doing Roughy to WHE and Pickett to Oliver. Thoughts?
It's not a bad move
Have to change Pickett to Will Brodie to get Oliver
Still not a bad move. The only issue I see is how the Melbourne midfielders will stand up once they play a good side with good hardened midfielders like the Swans and so on. Melbourne really haven't played anyone yet? Oliver will be a hardball beast in the future, For now though he could be a keeper or he could be a good stepping stone to a premo later on down the track
Do you suggest anyone else besides Oliver and Higgins.
Will brodie hasn't even played a game? Of course you should ditch him, Pickett is more valuable even with his crap scores at least he's getting a gig.
have neither WHE or marchbank. do i trade roughy so i can grab both, or trade tarranto and settle for one.thoughts?
If it's Roughy and a non-playing or injured rookie, I would just trade and get those seemingly two golden mid pricers in.
Hold, or Marchy if your def strucure really needs it.
Hello community, i need some advice. I have Houston and Eddy on the bench with Jack Steele and Roughhead F5 &6 but need to get Hoski-Elliot and Dan Butler.
Do i pull the trigger on both, one or none?
Cheers
I'd keep Steele around at least another week and hope Rd2 was an anomaly. We saw how well he can score in Rd1 so you really need to give him another crack under the Dome against the Lions.
So then it comes down to whether you trade Roughie for WHE. I'd probably lean the way of again keeping Roughie especially with the Hawks playing the abysmal Suns this weekend. Still WHE looks mighty tasty so if a coach really wanted to go that way and had no better way to bring him in then I could understand you making that call, even though I'd probably hold Roughie myself.
Whilst I think Butler will be a decent rookie I'm not sure I'd go out of my way to bust up my team to get him.
Forward line sounds stacked if they are your 5 and 6. If your mid is weak/has a spud can you use dpp of fwd line player to move him back to the mids to make room for WHE in fwd line?
Hey mate, my mids are solid too
Dangerfield Pendles Fyfe Beams Watson SPP O'meara Swallow
Defense is weak
Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Shaw Otten and Hampton
Solid squad, 280k in the bank
Smith and Hibberd my dud rookies.
Looking at doing these trades purely for cash generation as so many underperforming rookies. Don't want to miss the boat. Roughhead may not score as well as hoped in a weakened Hawks side. Steele could go large so I'm hesitant to move home on….. Decisions decisions
Gary Ablett to Clayton Oliver…
Ablett looked like he was playing injured last game..
Maybe Gaz to the Bonte or Joel Selwood?
Probably what i'll do, make a bit of cash with Oliver, OK points, and a few $ reserves. Could go straight to Bont or Pendles or ….?? which might make more logical sense but cash generation seems more important right now.
Ablett will no doubt come out and smash it this week but he doesn't look interested based on the last 2 games, so I can't see it lasting.
The cash that you are saving will need to be used to upgrade Oliver to a premo around the byes – as good as he's been playing, he won't be a top 10 midfield by the end of the season.
If you're trading out a premo, bring in a premo – don't forget your goal is full premo.
Bewitching podcast fellas love ya work
Good to see Jock up and about and as usual you speak on behalf of all of us "Just kick the bloody thing"!
If that doesn't work well there is always Alcohol.
Name your poison. A fine wine, Claytons down at Murphs. Crouching great form once again
Higgo not even going to attempt your tongue twister will take it on board
Pod on ….
Trade gaz or use him to bring in the likes of Hoskin Elliott???
is WHE an absolute must? I'd have to make 2 trades to get him in…I'd also have to move dahlhaus to mid which would move SPP to the bench. Forward line would have WHE, Houston, Butler on field.
The trades i'm leaning towards are K.Simpson to T.Adams then Picket to WHE.
I'd be getting rid of the spud that is Picket but it makes my team a lot less flexible
I'm going mental here someone talk me down
What happened to Simpson?
Nothing he just allows me to get enough cash for picket > WHE.
Theres no other players that I need to trade out, its purely to get WHE's cash generation at the expense of a premo-premo trade
maybe i need sleep
They sat on him that is the reason Smurf got off the chain this week
same issue here to get WHE in I need to trade tarranto and move dahlous to the middle and spp on bench. Is this a good idea
It was already a close call but the added drawback of losing playing SPP onfield probably tilts things towards not making that trade. As you could end up losing net points per week in that scenario plus being down a trade which probably outweighs the cash generation benefits of WHE.
So you just might have to pass up on him unfortunately.
Thankyou, voices of reason!
Someone said earlier in the comments, he'll be a great rookie but don't do it at the expense of breaking up your team.
It sounds like you'd be breaking up your team just to get him in.
Rookies I have at the moment. 119k left.
DEF: March, Otten, Hampton (Hibberd, J Smith)
MID: Swallow, P-Pepper (Barrett, Pickett, H-Smith)
RUC: (Strndeca)
FWD: Eddy, Taranto (Parfitt, Hannan)
I only have 1 of the top 5 Rookie BE which is P-Pepper.
I guess I have to wait until teams drop.
Any trade advice?
You have two defenders not playing. at this point of the season that isn't good enough imo.
One player is a late out and you get a donut. There's Stewart on the bubble, or take a risk on second game Newman who was solid in JLT and backed it up with a similar first game score of 73.
There's also Berry who is highly rated making a possible debut for Brisbane this week.
Seeing as brisbane is in a perpetual rebuilding phase I would actually go with Berry this week if named as his JS should be solid.
Then you can watch Newman for another week and grab on the bubble, I'm a bit worried about Sydney players, they are losing, lineup is changing a lot etc.
Thanks, would you suggest a Hibberd Swing in mids to open up a DEF Rookie spot and focus on a rookie FWD like WHE or Houston. Not sure how many +200k rookies i want to have. Any thoughts?
Well you could trade Pickett (or Parfitt if he is dropped) from the forwardline for WHE.
Then trade Smith out for a playing back line rookie.
Swinging Hibberd is an option then you would be trading out Parfitt and Pickett though right? Doesn't seem wise to keep so many donuts.
I'm hanging onto him despite price drop next week, so probably going to have him all year. I assume that at some point if he keeps underperforming he will be so cheap that everyone will jump on and then he becomes very relevant and then his scores will get inflated from the suspect guys putting up the scores…….
Also, anyone else think we should get 30 trades per year but unlimited each round? Could just be because it would be nice to use the three this round but seems like it would be better way to use strategy…..same guys blowing all early, others holding nerve and saving some till late despite temptations. Anyway just a thought.
Do you even know how CD scores SC points? I assume no.
Unlimited trades per round would mean everyone would have practically the same team.
He said 30 trades per round but as many trades as you want to use in each round, so you could effectively FCK your team within 6 rounds, what ya smokin, whatyasmokin? 🙂
Sorry, I meant to type, He said 30 trades per season.
True but every team would be the same after round 2 is what I meant, as everyone could correct to all best rookies, other cash cows etc.
Oops changed my name due to a rockspider
All I know is that the more relevant players all of a sudden seem to be having a bigger impact on game and have scores inflated. And I'm ranked in 1000 (despite bloody hanners), so I have been on receiving end of the overly generous scores, so this isn't just sour grapes, but when otten gets around same score as trelor even though trelor has 35 and two goals…..
Even if you factor in the 5 clangers I should add! Still ridiculous to me. Maybe I'm just still burning about trelor still 🙂
Thoughts on Roughead to Nank? I don't have any back-up for sandilands atm and I feel that if nank can hold the number one ruck position at the tiges he can avg 90+ from here on out, which is enough to be keeper in the forward line.
I'd do it. Roughie could work out but he also might not. By time we've determined that Nank could be priced over $500K and that ship will have sailed. So I'd act now and get the Nank in now whilst you can as I'm sure that ruck cover will come in handy at some point during the season. And even if you don't use I'd still back the Nank in to be a top 6 forward in his own right.
It's easy to say hold trades because I started with Nank. (And Oliver, Marchbank, WHE,Witts)
But yeah if in that position I'd probably trade, as long as my rookies weren't falling apart.
hey community could you suggest some trades im not sure if i should trade hanners to get one of marchbank or whe or should i get butler
Laird, Shaw, Rance, Otten, Stewart, Hampton, (smith hibberd)
Danger, mitchell, fyfe, beams, treloar, powell pepper, omeara, hand on berry (barret, pickett, mountford)
Gawn, sandilands (cameron)
Higgins, Franklin, nankervis, dahlhous, houston, hannan (eddy, parfitt)
I see 4 zeros that is a lot for week 3.
Hey everyone.
My team is currently looking like this. I haven only made 1 trade as of now which was Rooey>Buddy.
DEF: Adams, Laird, Tuohy, Hampton, Otten, Stewart. (Newman & EVW)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, Hibberd)
RUCK: Goldy, Grundy (Strnadica)
FWD: Buddy, Dahl, Macrae, Taranto, Butler, Parfitt (Eddy & Houston)
29 trades left with 40k or so in the bank.
My main options that I have constructed are Strnadica>Preuss (Backup for Goldy mainly)
OR
Taranto>WHE.
OR
Not trade at all and save the trades for further down the track.
Thanks.
I would get WHE in
You could reverse trade and get in Nankervis for ruck cover instead of Buddy. Nank is going to make $ and if nank swings into ruck, one of your Fwd rookies comes onto the field. Saves you one trade and if preuss gets dropped you still have ruck cover.
I traded Roo to Buddy last week. I wish I started with Nank.
Have the cash and swings to trade Billy Smets to Clayton Oliver. Would send David Swallow to the bench along with SPP. Leaves me Hibbard and Eddy as loopholes
Not a fan of that move. Swallow at $270K would be wasted on the bench. It's already bad enough that you are not taking SPP's points onfield but missing out on Swallow's production as well would be sub optimal to say the least.
Just have to give Clayton a miss I reckon.
Thank SC agree will save the trade
Your Defense+forward lines must be pretty thin.
March bank d4 WHE f5
My team is quite settled and thus can't vindicate the 2 trades it would take to get WHE in.
So I shall wave goodbye from the shore to those setting sail on the WHE boat. It looks like a fine boat and one I would like to be on.
If you are contemplating getting on the WHE boat but it will require some ludicrous trades remember ….
Don't give in to Pier Pressure. 🙂
Hey Juzzy, I have contemplated the same scenario in depth, and thought, when I really thought I'd miss the boat on WHE, his past averages from previous years totally suck lol. At the same time, his stats in the last 2 games have been super impressive since his switch to the Pies. Also, many many players in Supercoach in the previous years have had blinder starts in their first couple of games of a new season and proceeded to spud it up big time after that.
My point is, don't worry too much if you can't get him now, you'll be able to get him at some point, if you still want him them….lol, but you might not, because he has reverted back to what he used to be…a fringe player who was chronically inconsistent.
Fair point Russ and I too wouldn't use two trades just to get him (thankfully, I can do it in one), but all I would say is that this is the first full pre-season Hyphen has ever done. Hopefully that bodes well for his consistency.
Cheers Russ. Spot on.
I do hope you got the whole boat, pier vs peer joke. A bad dad joke to be sure but one nonetheless.
caddy to WHE?
Yes
Garry Ablett stick or twist ?
Twist! I have him and to me he is top priority corrective trade. Just didn't want to be there. Bad selection needs to be nipped in the bud.
is nankervis a must
He's not a must destroy other parts of team to get him.
In my view yes. How often are you going to get a crack at a likely top 6 forward for $367K? Ruck cover is the cherry on top.
How sure are we that he is going to be a top 6 forward?
Is it worth downgrading a premo for him? Considering you are really trading a trade for a player with same scoring capacity yet you pocket the 150k. Thus trading a trade for 150k which is all you need.
I see the situation as eerily similar to Maric in 2012 after arriving at Tigerland from the Crows. In that year Maric made the most of his fresh opportunity at a new club to take his average from 69 to 113!
Now I'm not sure the Nank will quite reach those heights but operating as a lone ruckman I think it's realistic to expect he will average at least 100 from here which would see him comfortably finish as a top 6 forward.
Is it absolutely 100% guaranteed to happen, of course not nothing in SC is a sure thing, but that's what my expectations would be right now. He does so much work around the ground with his tackling, link up work and even intercept marking it's hard to see how he won't continue to score well.
Now in terms of scrapping a premo for him that is always a tricky call. Really that premo would need to be severely under performing and you would need some reason why you believe that under performance would continue. But I would consider sideswapping for another midpricer that you are not quite sure about like a Roughie for instance.
Well said scad duct!
o'meara OUT Newman IN (dpp through mcGrath)
then
Taranto OUT Nank IN
thoughtttssss?
i really want to get hoskin in but then i will have 4 collingwood players is that a problem?
Not at this stage of season
Will it be a problem in the byes?
Will you have traded any out during the byes?
We don't know your team…………………
Have a look at the fixture at look at how many players you will miss when Collingwood have a bye and if these players are spread across your field then yuk should have cover for them
You're not as bad off as you think – by position, based on B/E, you have:
Defense – 3 of top 5
Midfield – 2 of top 5 (there are only 8 mids with negative B/E this week and Oliver and Murphy are included, so it's not like we're flush with options). Swallow will likely be in top group once he plays his 2nd game.
Forward – 1 of top 5 (Eddy at 6th).
Def – Need to replace at least one of Hibberd / Smith – could go Stewart this week (if you are in danger of a donut / late out) or see how Newman goes and bring in if named R3. I would lean towards the latter option.
Mid – I don't see a whole lot that you need to get in here.
Fwd – WHE if you can get him in (need some cash) for Parfitt. IF no cash, could go Parfitt to Butler or Houston (the latter carries some risk with job security). You could consider Taranto to WHE but I'm not 100% convinced it's worth it (I'm tossing up on it myself).
If it was me, my trade priorities would be:
1) H-Smith out, move Taranto to mid, and bring in WHE up forward.
2) Fix up the defender issue if you're at risk for a donut.
3) Bring in a cheap rookie forward (this would be a luxury and could end up being a wasted trade).
Horlin-Smith out why bother?
Negative 6 BE, 78 SC last week, good JS.
Could be a good slow burn to 450K. No trades used because they started with him…..
DO I TRADE IN NANK FOR STEELE HELP!!!
I would but I see Nank the Tank as a must have this season although other coaches may disagree. I think there is a very strong chance he finishes as a top 6 forward plus he also offers ruck cover in the forward line.
It would be preferable to keep Steele around as well but if he's your only realistic way to get the Nank in then I'd probably do it especially if you have nailed all the main rookies as that is still the main priority this week.
Cheers
Yep I think the general feeling is Nank could be a season long keeper for a bargain price. Steele may be a stepping stone.
Is gaz going to have a big one against Hawks..he seems to have done pretty well against them in the past
Hello Community,
I would love to get your thoughts on whether i should trade T.Lynch for Higgins or Greene or someone else? Or should I not trade him at all?
Thanks
Hold
Sandi to Witts. Pickett to WHE. I'm thinking I'd rather keep roughie over Sandi and means cash generation and no dud fwd rookies on the ground. Community thoughts?
Why do you need to run Pickett on the ground?
Doing that trade means cash generation yet Sandi is projected to go up 40K and won't use a trade.
Can't fathom your logic sorry.
Don't follow the shoal. Make a SHARK MOVE. Don't get WHE. You don't want to have him in your team when the SWANS smash the PIES on Friday night. I can hear the LAMBS crying now. The nashing of teeth. The howls of sorrow. I have seen it before. The SC GODS have set their TRAP.
Was ugly for Collingwood last year at the SCG.
There won't be any sorrow from the owners of WHE who started with him though.
I think good luck to those who started with WHE. But I won't be chacing the points or the cash
What other shark moves have you got for us this year?
I hear ya brother. WHE will be in more teams than Danger
Roughead to Higgins
Higgins stays healthy he'll go close to top forward and I can't see Roughead being in the top 6.
I'm thinking the same, with a Tarranto to WHE Cherry on top…. 2nd move a wasted trade or WHE possibly an option as F7 at seasons end?
Is there a chance Higgins will just suck everyone in then get injured or return to spud land. I only say this because that is exactly what he does every bloody year.
Two certainties, Higgins is a trap. Hanners back on the p155
Last year was a write off for Higgins, but the year before he was pretty solid injury wise from memory?
What does everyone think of these two trades?
Hanners to JJK, Buddy or Higgins
Pickett, Parfitt or Strndica to WHE
You should be fine so long as you steer clear of Higgins. He has been around for a long time through two clubs. If he was going to jump from mid price to premo he would have done so way back. He does this every year, shows a bit of dash, sucks you in then gets injured or just returns to being the very mediocre player he is. He has got me three or four times spare yourself the pain.. The rest of what you say seems fine imo. The only other thought is it looks like WHE and Oliver will have close to 100% ownership. A lot of faith in these two???
Thoughts on Sandilands down to witts which leaves me with 300k in the bank and would allow me to bring in Gawn sooner?
I think Sandilands will score better than Witts
Yes but I would only need witts to generate 130k and that would only take about 3-4 weeks and then I could bring gawn in, and if Gawn falls in price I could do it even earlier
Keep an eye on Melbourne selection given the Hogan absence. They may very well put a target in attack by using Gawn less ruck more fwd and put Spencer in. This could have an impact on Max's scores
Ok blokes you all told me how it was with my previous idea of trading but how about these.
Pickett out for WHE
Hibberd out for Otten
Its time to make money Krups and both trades will improve that greatly. I like it.
Option 1 – JOM and Roughie out for WHE and Marc Murphy
Option 2 – Smith and Roughie out for WHE and Marchbank or
Option 3 – hold all trades
Option 1 gives me a full promo midfield with SPP on bench
I have all the other performing rooks
Interested to here opinions on Murphy as a potential keeper this year. Obviously from previous posters the jury is out in Roughie ATM but most think holding JOM is the way to go …… torn !!!!
Full premo mid? depends what you consider premo.
So you have all the good rookies? No donuts and wasted bench space?
Option 2 if so, if not then rookie corrections.
option 1 would have given me Danger, JPK, Trelor, Fyfe, Zorko, Martin, Beams and Murphy. Maybe not all Premo but pretty close I would say. I take it you are not sold in Murphy??
Re my Rooks, I have Hampton, Otten, Stewart and Hibert down back; SPP, Picket and Barret in mids; and Butler, Hannan, Houston and Eddy up front. Bar Marchbank and WHE (which I would pick up with option 2) I reckon that covers most of the playing rooks.
Thanks again for your input. I agree that option 2 is probably the way to go. Here's hoping roughie and Murphy don't prove me wrong this week .
Mog
Steele to WHE?
Straight up
Not a fan.
I'll probably make one correction trade this week, Mills to the Nank (via Hibberd/Pickett swing)
I have to admit I got both calls wrong.
Goldy missing a game last week and Gawn with "back soreness" made me realise I made a big mistake not having ruck cover, not just for Sandi but Max as well. Ryder has been poor and the Nank (not sure how he does it) has been very good.
I always said Mills will end the season as 100% midfielder, but until then he won't be scoring well enough. Defence rookies are doing their job.
Other trade might be Smith to Otten but do worry about his JS. I can go Smith to WHE (via Berry/Parfitt swing) but will mess up my swing sets.
Pretty tough getting the rucks right Derek. I found the price on Sandi too hard to resist. Wanted Big Max but must have toyed with every other possibility particularly Steffi Martin. In the end trusted the gut and got Max. Have bugger all cover so just riding my luck until the inevitable sideways trade at some point. The lesson I reckon is no matter how much you think this all through a bit of old fashioned good luck wins the day no matter how much analysis you do…
I agree Derek. I reckon getting in Nankervis is crucial. He plays the WCE this week who are pretty much ruckless at the moment. Its all upside for him at the moment. I am getting him in this week for one of my midfield "mistakes" being Aaron Hall. Cheers
yep WCE this week…… but then he has Martin, Gawn, Jacobs, DOGS, Sandilands, Mummy, ESSENDON, Goldy.
it seems that he scores from very few HO, plus his opponents scores well, not sure what to make of it.
Good point Derek.
Gee that is a tough run -> Martin, Gawn, Jacobs, DOGS, Sandilands, Mummy, ESSENDON, Goldy
I'm tempted to go Ryder to the Nank but with the above run, things may go south quickly.
What his opponent scores is not relevant he has played grundy and Kreuzer who both rate imo, I was a total non believer in the Nank but it looks like he is he real deal after all
he seems to have the ability to score, but also lets the opponent ruck score well.
i was also a non believer but he has some runs on the board that are hard to ignore
It is the LONE WOLF advantage.
What about Cyril? Still holding him even though he has yet to fire?
yeah. i consider him a keeper premium. only trade them if they are injured.
i did think he might get a bit more midfield time. as a result he will be dependent on the hawks getting the ball in their forward line, kicking plenty of goals and winning games…… jury still out if that will happen.
round 1 he started on fire and copped a big cork thigh. last week his 76 was ok for his 13 touches against a pretty good adelaide team, but i have seen him score 100+ with only 13 touches.
he'll be right, gotta back my POD
I'd only rate Cyril as SuperCoach relevant if Bruce mcavaney goes to work a part timer at champion data. He might be a real liability if hawthorn slips back a little. He is cream on the cake for mine and that is a worry if you run out of cake
I don't think you were wrong on Mills. I think you will be proven correct on that call. (Well I hope so anyway, because you certainly convinced me!) But I do agree that at this point you need Nank more than you need Mills. I won't be surprised if Mills is back in your team after the byes!
Sorry mate. After last year I said I would only go fallen premium midpricers. And I start with Mills!
It shows how much I rate him
Maybe second year is asking too much.
Hi Derek, so is WHE not necessary if u have rookie cover in forwards? I can afford to go Parfitt to WHE, what's your thoughts. Cheers
Any thoughts of what to do with Hogan, looking at Yeo! Any ideas community….
you started with Hogan, that is a big call. i would hold him and back your initial call
He misses out on feasting on docker carcass at the g in round 4, that's a big blow. When he comes back it will be on rance in round 5. He has done a number on rance before if you picked him to start with you must have had a good reason because he wasn't at the top of many shopping lists. If you have cover you may as well keep the faith at some point this bloke is going to explode. Good luck with it we all love a successful pod.
Is it a good idea to trade sandilands down to witts for cash generation. Currently only have 24k in the chest
Geez hold or trade…. Always so tormenting!
I love Roughy, but swapping him and Tarranto for Higgins and WHE looks quite attractive.
Thoughts?
OK. Here is the plan. I have decided to abandon my quest to snare WHE. Just not worth screwing around with two trades/my side in order to get him. (Would not be surprised if he comes down to earth a bit against the Swans). I have all the key rookies otherwise at this point. (Marchbank, Butler, SPP, Otten, and Stewart). Not really desperate to get Houston as Pittard is due back anytime.
However, I do have two rook liabilities. (J Smith and Hibberd). I am going to be discliplined and not try and move these guys on this week. I reckon there are plenty of juicy rooks on the horizon in coming weeks. I am quietly confident that Ben Long (DEF/FWD) and Harley Balic (MID/FWD) will get named this week. We also will get to have another good look at Burton, Hayward, and Newman this week. Will just use them as E loopholes this week to scrounge a few extra points.
I am only going to make one move this week.
I have that "POD" Aaron Hall. I just don't trust the pri-ck after his pathetic effort last week and am concerned his inconsistency is going to hurt my side if I do not deal with it now. (44SC) As such, its time to pi-ss him off .
I don't have Toby Nankervis. My gut tells me I am going to need him for many reasons. Cash generation, points generation, and ruck cover. After Sandi's effort last week, he could be an injury prone ticking time bomb.
Hall OUT and Nankervis IN. Will give me around 190K in the warchest to go on a rookie trading rampage in coming weeks.
Welcome.
sounds good. Took a punt with starting with Hall, didn't work. oh well. if it did you're a genius.
i like the idea of cash in bank.
I reckon I have nearly the same rookies as you tophawk and I have come to the same conclusion. Bad luck on Hall I had a good look at him as a pod too thinking suns would be ok this year. In a decision more lucky than clever I grabbed Oliver instead of hall and thought the big buddwar was a better bet than t lynch. I was a non believer in Nank but no point crying you can't have em all straight away. I can't go back to Nank now without huge trading, if you can do it do it the Nank looks like the real deal after all, he has played against decent opponents and touched them up
Think that would be a smart move Tophawk. If you don't have the Nank and have nailed most of your rookies then that's who I'd be targeting this week and Hall's horrendous 44 has probably given you enough doubt about him to make that switch.
Like it hawk.
I started WHE and not the nank went with Ryder instead. He hasn't been too bad and probably broke even with Sandi last week can see him.improving so sticking fat.
Unless I go Hanners down to.say Heppell or even further murph/Oliver I can't afford him without comprising the team structures so will let him go.
Good thing is we get another look at the swans Rooks Friday night so can then make a call whether to wait till Rd 4 if the go ok or to upgrade Hibbard or Smith
Lots of better rook coming think I will wait.
Play you 1st up Hawk in Trigg league. I have Nank but never know Hall might go bang this week! My only trades if any will be a rookie trade. Good luck.
Too early for the shake n bake fake?
Watch him hawk he has some moves.
No easy games in the Happy Place gotta bring your best every week . 🙂
Hehehe. I am awake to the shake and bake fake! Rhymes bloody nicely too! Should be a ripper contest.
I love the banter! 1 from 1 would be better thou! Might leave something up my sleeve but will wait till the last minute! All that aside will be great year, no easy game like It Trigg..
do I trade caddy to Nank
Hell yeah! Do it right now. I have brought him in as well this week. Nankervis is playing the eagles too this Saturday in Melbourne. The side who have no meaningful ruck options at the moment. Caddy has been shocking so far. He needs to wear a nappy onfield because of all the excrement produced. Nankervis is also strategically important to cover Sandi who could break down at anytime IMO. Good luck mate.
I think the Nank will be that good that I would move him on for another forward you have significant doubts about and don't have any better ways to get him in like upgrading a struggling rookie.
<start rant> I have been a critic of Caddy as a fantasy selection for some time now and that has at times drawn some flak my way from his "believers". But I just don't get how so many coaches gets seduced by him each season and then by about Rd2 or 3 each year I see all these comments wanting to get rid of him.
What is it that coaches see in him that I have never have and perhaps never will?? <end rant>
Thanks for the rant. I admit that Caddy was in my side. You convinced me of that folly and I bought in Kennedy just before the season kicked off . Couldn't be happier. That was damn good advice and I thank you for it.
my team is below:
DEF: Laird, Lloyd, Howe, Marchbank, Otten, Stewart (hampton, hibbered)
MID: Danger, Rocky, Fyfe, Priddis, Ablett, Steven, O'meare , SPP (Barret, picket, Mountford)
RUCK: Nankilands (strandica)
FWD: JJK, Macrae, Greene, Roughy, Butler, Houstan (Partiff, Eddy)
Option 1- use 1 trade and go steven to Pendles leaving 26k (meaning not getting WHE)
Option 2- Mountford to WHE via Partiff & Steven to Shuey leaving 8k (gaining another POD)
Option 3- Roughy to WHE & Steven to Any midfielder leaving around 200k
I have 111k in the bank so any option can work i personally like option 2 but still not sure, option 3 seems the best but i feel roughy will come good
thoughts community?
Option 1. Settle for that one corrective trade only. Plenty of other exciting rookies to look forward to in coming weeks.
Cheers
good team. one of the few i've seen without any Swan midfielders. good idea to wait to see which one is the best or who falls in price the most.
Pendles is a must have at some time this year, but you could probably wait. I'm thinking Gawn is a higher priority. nankilands has been good so far, but you still taking a risk without cover. The nank looks an ideal Fwd, not R1
i would look at going Steven to Gawn via Parfitt & Nank. Swing Nank to forward line.
Gawn has Cats (no ruck), Sandi, Nank, bellchambers, McEvoy, next 5 weeks……….(drool)
i like your thinking derek but i cant bring myself to playing Barret, Pickett or Parfitt on field as there scoring output has been terrible
i can see some serious problems when the teams drop this week.
won't be surprised to see pickett, parfitt, Eddy, houston, mountford, hibberd, preuss & taranto all not named…….. have mercy
I like Option 3 – look at the trades in isolation. This is the week to correct.
– I think Roughie may be 2 months off his best, Hawks may struggle and WHE looks like a must have so this may be a good corrective trade
– Steven is out so this is a trade that you need to do given the paucity of points on the bench. If you have the budget don't get cute, go uber = Pendles, Selwood, Rocky or maybe the Bont as most compelling I'd venture right now?
Roughead missed two set shots, if he got those his score becomes pretty reasonable. I'm keeping him.
Remember it's a marathon guys not a sprint
This is my team atm
Def:
Simmo, Shaw, Laird
Mbank, Hampton, Otten
Stewart, Smith
Med:
Danger, Hanners, Trealor, Priddis
Fyfe, Crouch, SPP, Barret
Hibberd, Pickett, Parfitt
Ruck:
SandiWitts
Strnadica
Fwd:
JJK, Buddy, Dalhaus
Nankervis, Florent, Hannan
Butler, Eddy
$251,600 in the bank
Thinking i might miss the WHE wagon this week and wait for the other batch of Rookies on the bubble. Smith and Hibberd will be the first ones to go next week as they won't be bleeding cash.
I do however would like to offload Hanners to either Bont or Pendle. And Florent to either Higgins or Oliver. My gutt feeling is telling me to go with it, but just can't decide. Should i just turn off my phone and never turn it on until Round 3 is finished.
Funnily enough Hibberd to WHE (via Florent DPP) might be your best play! If Florent is selected again, he will still generate some cash (hopefully at a better rate in the weeks to come) whilst Hibberd (assuming non-selection) will not. With the cash in the bank you already have (albeit reduced by this trade), you will soon be upgrading the likes of SPP and WHE into players like Bont, Higgins, etc instead of sideways trading now. Pendles for example is likely to come down in value even after his good start.
I would personally hold Hanners, but you could still sideways to Bont as an additional trade, but the opportunity for you to get WHE's cash generation looks appealing especially as you are currently looking at 2 onfield rookies up forward, none of whom are scoring particularly strongly at the moment.
Whos more important to get marchbank or WHE
I'd have more faith that Marchbank can sustain his output for longer than WHE although WHE may prove the quicker cash generator in the short term. It might come down to each coach's individual structures and which player bolsters which line more but all things being equal I'd probably go for Marchy if you could only get one. He's a player you can probably leave in your defence for a while whilst you improve other areas of your team
Yeah thanks SC. Got smith and hibberd in the backline so i should probably get some cash generating there
Even if WHE puts up a stinker this week he will carry the 120 for another week for a second price rise. Get him in I say.
If any of the forward (or defence) rookies at $120,000-odd had even the slightest upside (job security AND point scoring capacity) I wouldn't be so committed to this idea but they just don't.
Lads, was very keen on Higgins pre season (but traded last minute to JJK – haven't been disappointed).
Higgins looking like top 6 forward given his midfield time.
Thoughts on trading Hanners/GAJ to Higgins And approx 220K for the war chest given how much they're stinking it up.
The thought of getting a forward keeper who may average 100+ at 426K is appealing.
It's doable Doc although with Higgins there is that risk of him breaking down at some point. I took that risk starting him but burning a trade and using a struggling ultra premo to do it may be pushing your luck to the absolute limit with the fantasy gods.
However it hard to deny that Higgins is looking like a potential top 6 forward if he can maintain that midfield role which appears likely given how well he's started there but just as importantly so long as that fragile body holds together.
Im a firm believer not to trade out premos unless they are injured but GAJ just doesnt look himself. So was tossing up trading him for Smurph and bringing in WHE for one of my rookies and pocketing the cash.
But now im thinking something a bit leftfield. I might bring Gawn in for GAJ by moving Steele to the mids and Nank to forward line. I would then have to drop Taranto for WHE which at first i didnt like but no point having a 200k player sitting on your bench. What is your thoughts community?
Interesting. I'm a fan of this idea. I would suggest (if you can) to leave Steele in the forward line (because that is where he belongs). Swing Taranto into the mids and Nank into the forward line.
I think trading out either GAJ or Hanners has particular merit to it if it significantly helps you to restructure your side for the better.
With SPP performing so well I too will have Taranto sitting on my bench this week which is not exactly desirable. However I expect it to be a temporary arrangement as I have my doubts I'll be keeping Taranto around more than another fortnight. So if you can use him to get on WHE and more optimally restructure your side in the process I'd make that move myself.
Shaw to Adams and Lynch to Buddy or Treloar to Wines and Pickett to WHE
Possibly the worst trades I've ever seen.
Ur joking right?
not the worst….I was Thinking of Shaw to Zak Dawson and then Danger down to Jack Watts
Thinking of trading L.Parker into ??? ,,,
Which of Butler or Preuss is more important to have for cash generation?
Great question… Preuss had 44 with Goldy, 100+ without him. Maybe wait for teams.
Butler.
there is a very good chance you will be able to cull Butler and bring in another rookie. where i can't see that opportunity with Preuss
Yeah excellent point Derek. Butler's JS also looks way better than Preuss who was all set to be playing in the twos last weekend until Goldy rolled his ankle.
its the same problem for people who have Witts at R3, when they go to cull him for the cash…. who do they trade to?
For those with Nank or Ryder in their forward line (unlike the Bunnies) the answer is likely still Straindick or another cheap RUCK/FWD loop swinger.
Darcy Cameron could become an option too depending on when he starts getting regular games for the Swans and whenever Tippett and Naismith suffer their next LTI which will no doubt happen at some point. Cameron could even come in to cover Tippet's rolled ankle this week although it may end up only being a 1-2 week gig.
Stern-dicka. People who took Witts at R3 did so instead of the traditional non-starter. It's a dead trade, admittedly.
Hadn't thought about that, very good point.
Thanks!
Hickey for preuss and move wits from r3 to r2 and keep sandi as r1 thoughts?
Sandi witts ruck with Preuus at R3 sounds really risky. Can you get Nank in there?
I can but I don't want to be leaving wits on the bench while his killing it and producing solid scores and I'd have to trade in nank instead of trading in preuss leaving me with less cash
I see. Hmmm, Ok the issues are, what happens to Preuss if Goldy gets named? What happens if the GC react to a 100 point loss by naming an extra tall? Maybe wait for teams to work it out. I don't mind Hickey as a selection, although his scores are not great yet.
Alternatively, trade Hickey for Strnadica who is FWD/RUC to sit on your bench and get Nank into the FWD line as a second trade. You end up with Sandi-Witts in Ruck and Nank as backup able to swing in via DPP as cover.
Thanks but I gotta bring in whe in this week aswell and only have 2 trades ?
Crouch is concerning me, is it time to trade him out for oliver and bank the cash before he bombs and oliver rises?
Interesting. Oliver set to scream up but surely he will plateau as his legs give way, he is just a kid. Crouch could be longer term midfielder that you can maybe upgrade into uber at the back end of the season if you have trades. Ball magnet just handballing too much for big scores at the moment but I'd tend to stick with him. Plenty of other options to make $150k than Oliver – just my opinion!
He's getting plenty of the footy but just not kicking it, much to Jock's frustration too. However he has still exceeded his 2016 average so you really should be keeping him. Last time he played in the Showdown he scored 126 so you need to keep the faith with him and hope his onfield performances begin to translate to better SC scoring.
I think Jock was going to have a quiet word with Crouch this week…. all should be good
Oh no problems then, I might trade him in.
Spoke to him this arvo lads. Was measured. Perhaps a touch to aggressive. Expect improvement
Cheers guys, stopped my itchy finger
He won't bomb, but he won't become a keeper this year at least.
You want a guaranteed keeper, no guarantees Oliver is one.
People seem to forget pickett is basement price, needs one decent game in his 3 game rotation and he'll make 100k i for one will be holding both taranto and pickett whilst they're likely to make cash.
just like Menapoo did 🙂
Exactly like menapoo! So many jumped off after a couple stinkers and he went bang bang
My team ATM: looking for advice on trades.
D: Shaw, Adams, laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten
Stewart/hibberd
M: Danger, treloar, cripps, fyfe, crouch, beams, Omeara, SPP (parfait, Pickett, barret)
R: sandilands, Witts (stirndica)
F: buddy, dahlhous, Higgins, Nank, steele, butler
(Eddy, McCarthy)
I have $132.7 k in the bank
Option 1: make one trade, McCarthy to WHE
Option 2: same as option 1 but also trade Crouch up to sloane, bont or other
Option 3: same as option 1 but trade crouch down to Murphy or Oliver and bank the extra cash for next week.
Or other suggestion that I can't see?
I would love to get Gawn in for sandi but can't make that happen this week.
I reckon all three options are ok but steer clear of Murph. Maybe consider option four and cool your jets. You might be very glad you held fire and saved trades
number 1 for sure. McCarthy isn't cutting in and WHE will generate cash so I would strongly consider that myself. Have faith in the midfield premos! They will come good
Id just do option 1. Crouch is good to go. Wait until Murphy gets a tag, he'll get 45 and Oliver's legs give out.
What's this about Oliver's legs? Does he have an ongoing issue?
Nah, just a young fella – hard to see him run out the season. I'm sure he will get rested. Crouch is a more mature body that's all I'm saying.
They did all that stuff last year with Oliver, good to go
Anyone got the oil on Jack Steele? Did not see the game, but he was on bugger all before a good last quarter. I'm thinking of keeping him given Stevens is out for a couple of weeks now, hoping he is in the guts. This guy does my head in, can look awesome when he gets a run in his right spot.
Tossed up between him and Higgins, grrrrr.
Don't fret you've still dodged the Higgins bullet. He teases sucks a few in and then disappoints every year
Comes down to gut feel. Do you think Steele can hold a 90 average til he's ready to be moved to a fallen premium? I think Steven out certainly helps his chances. Or do you think Higgins can stay healthy and keep up his scoring all season? Because you wouldn't want to trade in Higgins and then in a couple of weeks find he also needs to be shipped due to injury. Personally I'm holding Steele until I see him play this weekend. Not gonna lose value and I need to focus on rookies first and foremost.
Awesome reply, ta. Will keep Steele.
Been going back and forth on my trades for this week. I don't have Butler Houston Hannan or Otten. I do have Hibberd Smith and Mountford. I only have $2400 in the bank.
Option 1. Smith and Mountford for Houston and Otten. Need only 1 trade next week for Hibberd to Newman
Option 2. Mountford and Hibberd for Butler and Otten. But need 2 trades next week for Newman
Option 3. Let Otten go. Mountford for Butler this week and Hibberd for Newman next week.
Bit of short term cash in both Houston and Otten, which is appealing, but js is an issue. Think Butler and possibly Newman have better long term security but really is guessing.
Appreciate any help.
option 3. i'm letting Otten go as well
Option 1 for me. Otten should hold his spot for a while. Houston is just as likely to lose his, to be fair.
Thanks guys. Appreciate the input
I like option 1 as well. Houston had a good game, hopefully keeps his spot. Otten is apparently in a battle with Kelly but again played really well…Wait for teams.
Thanks for the advice. I am sure you are right – there will no doubt be a spanner thrown in at the selection table!
How many top 6 forwards do we think there will be!!!!
I'm hearing
Dahlouse,macrae,buddy,nank,Steele,Higgins,jjk,wingard,touk miller, yeo, lynch, Riewoldt,Gunston, Greene etc… come on guys u can't say they will all be top 6 forwards!!!!
I think that just goes to the point of why so many coaches took a value based approach to the forward line this season and went with the likes of Higgins, Roughie, Nank, Miller, Wingard, Ryder and Steele. It's not entirely clear who those top 6 forwards will be but rather there is a bunch of a dozen of them as you listed.
In particular it's hard to deny the value of a Nank or a Higgins right now given both their fantasy favourable roles and how well they have started the season.
I predict Wingard and Yeo won't be.
I'm only confident of Dahl and Macrae as certainties. Gunston and Nank are high in my thoughts. JJK should have good service this year with Mitchell but will have big swings. Agree it's hard!
ROOKIE ALERT!!!!
Zac Dawson is expected to drop in price this week, and next week, and the following week……
He will be $173k within 3 weeks!
his 1948 owners won't be happy
Autopicked, by accident, lol when they were extremely drunk.
Derek has been predicting it since the preseason ….
" The Rookies Are Coming ".
I made a list last night of possible rookie call ups this weekend based on their reserves form, senior team form and injuries.
I came up with 20 names. 3-4 look like sure things. 3-4 seem highly unlikely. The rest are legit possibilities, if not this week then soon.
This means (knock on wood) if we have a little patience with our original crop of shitty rookies, even the non-players, we may be able to correct a few in the coming weeks to some legitimate bench cash cows instead of jumping on the next debutante who scores 60 because we feel we have to.
Fingers crossed.
And so we wait
What do they say?
Good things come to those who wait.
Let's hope there is a sprinkling of rooks on the team sheets this week.
We just want a sprinkling every week not a flood so we can bring them in gradually over the coming weeks
The rookies as a whole had a much better second week and didn't burn those who had plenty on their field quite as badly as they did in Rd1. I guess we'll have to see what happens this weekend.
We also seem to be getting a steady trickle of decent looking rookies appearing on the horizon so it may not be all doom and gloom. It's still going to be a little more of a challenge for a lot of coaches to get to full premo than it has been in the past but at least there are a few rays of sunshine now.
Jock said it in one of the castings of the pod….. the last few years of Supercoach we have been blessed with The Suns, GWS, Port and Essendon all offering plenty of great opportunities for Rookies to play, especially from Round 1.
those days are over. The kids are being told to do it the hard way, earn their stripes in the VFL and be ready for AFL level when it is their turn.
The Wookies are back in favour
Do we think Jake Lloyd can be a keeper in the Def?
If so am thinking to trade Hanners to Lloyd then upgrade taranto to Nank
What's the community's thoughts?
I know I'm trading a premium (underperforming) but am still bringing in 2 keepers whilst upgrading a rookie
I have Lloyd since day 1 and consider thinking he's a keeper.
So did I, but we don't want everyone jumping on board do we? 😉
Yep, keep quiet on this one.
Good trades – possibly get two bargain priced keepers.
My cash cows on the rise in the next week or two are Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, Stewart and Newman in defence……SPP O'meara (stepping stone), Barrett ,McGrath Taranto in the mids……Witts Sandi Preuss in ruck……Nank, WHE, Butler, Nannan, Eddy in feds…….only one I would have liked but have missed out on is Ainsworth….hopefully some good cash generation …..no trades for me for the next 2-3 rounds…..and then it will be off to the butchers all the way to round 9 bye round
What is everyone's thoughts on VC on buddy this week? Have a feeling he will go BANG on Friday nite for his 250th…
Sounds like an excellent use of the VC this week. With Danger just getting it done you need a VC who has the potential of going 150 plus and Buddy at home against the Pies in his 250th fits the bill I reckon.
Looks like he due for a monster. Looks in cracking form. I like it. Apart from Ben Reid they don't have anyone that can go with him
VC has been planted firmly on Bud since Sunday night Nick.
Its coming off Treloar this week and whacking it on Buddy. I reckon he is good for 5-6 goals this week.
Weighing up between Buddy and TMitch go to huge this round.
Pulling my hair out here on what trades to make this week.
Here's the team:
DEF: Adams, Laird, Docherty, Shaw, Otten, Hampton (Stewart,VickersWillis)
MID: Dangerfield, Fyfe, J.Kelly, Beams, Treloar, SPP, JOM, Hannebery (Barrett, Parfitt, Hibberd)
Ruck: Nank, Sandy (Preuss)
FWD: Greene, Macrae, Dal, Houston, Taranto, Hannan (Pickett,Eddy)
Should I trade out Pickett and Taranto for Butler and WHE which means holding on to hanners?
Or
Should I trade out Hanners for Murphy and bring in WHE for Pickett?
I usually like to make my own call on trades but could use some advice.
Open to alternative trade options.
Cheers in advance.
Its pretty line ball really. Hold, ya team looks good. Hibb to butler via pickett for a small rookie correction
If playing for overall, Hanners needs to go. If playing for league wins, I'd risk keeping him long term and focusing on rookies. He's probably got a niggle and can only go up if he is getting over something. Apparently stats were well up on Rnd 1.
Not too sure about all of this trading mid pricer to mid pricer, or even premo to mid pricer.
Only trades that should be happening is mid price to premo or mid price to rookie.
Build cash quick to get full premo quick…. BANG
Might need to trade injured premo. Such as nick Riewoldt
Agree Super
Sportsbet have Hawthorn even money to miss the 8….ah, good times we live in
$1.77 for hawks to miss top 8.
Interesting. Easy money 🙂
Hawks play GCS twice. We should sneak in on percentage…lols
Hopefully they miss it
Present team.
Shaw. Laird. Vince. Marchbank Hampton. Often. ………..Stewart. J Smith
Danger. JPK. Fyfe. Watson. Beams. Brayshaw JOM. SPP…………..Pickett. Hibberd. Greenwood
Max. Sandi.."…………….Cameron
N Riewoldt. Dahl. Buddy. Rough. Taranto. Butler. …………McCarthy. Eddy
Held fire with trades on a wait and see with Roo. Kept faith also on Vince. So haven't traded at all yet. Only 15 k on hand. Obviously a few issues. Not panicking at all re Taranto as I see him as good Js given gws injuries. I read all the panic with rough and even JOM but don't buy into panic trading. Priority is obviously Roo out. The obvious choice is JJK, if I jumped early last week I might have gone with t lynch but not now. The cash over if I take JJK let's me go from Brayshaw to Oliver who would have been my preference in the first place
Thoughts comments appreciated
Roo to Nank Circa 15 plus 182 plus 353 which could give you Adams (swing later) or gamble like cotch, wines Murphy Oliver. The krevis first, higgins second for me….just depends how you want to structure it up and gambles you like to take. Cheers
Many thanks food for thought apart from Higgins. The four previous years I've had Higgins and been burnt has finally taught me to never even look at him again. Taking Nank instead of JJK has me very interested, that leaves me plenty of midfield options
Our biases can be both good and bad. For example as a small cap investor I get nervous when a ceo leaves or sells stock. This can and has saved me but also hurt eg Webjet. I think your two best purchases are Nank and Higgins. Both unquestionably forward line keepers. Swing TT to the mids and be happy you've got a keeper out of an injury trade and turned a mid priced junk heap into a keeper.
BTW I think you should now hold Roo, might only be one more week. Just do the Nank purchase with Brayshaw if cash allows. Cheers
He could play this week too, if he comes out of tomorrow's training ok.
Thanks grabbed Nank for Brayshaw as suggested. Still wait and see on roo but it can't be Higgins he has burnt me too many times
Heard on the wireless that Spencer will be in team to replace Hogan.
Bad news for Gawn holders. Spencer may have a slightly different role as normal. (play more forward) but there will still be some negative impact on Gawnie's scoring output me thinks.
Gawn has way more upside as a fwd compared to Spencer. Expect max less ruck than he was and more fwd. Spencer minimal tog but will impact on max score and probably others such as Oliver who has been Max's main target…..Expect it will be Spencer in as the ruck is probably the only clear superiority Melb has over Geelong so try to exploit it makes sense. Melbourne has a good midfield but they need a fair head start advantage to match danger and selwood
As a Melbourne supporter, I can't see Goodwin playing Spencer as a replacement for Hogan as not enough goal scoring potential – expect to see Cam Pederson on the team sheet when the teams drop
I hope your right, that was last years method but haven't seen or heard boo from Pederson. Spencer was front and centre all JLT and many thought in for round one. I fear he will be the man
Petracca to Nank? Will help provide peace of mind for ruck cover, and he is only on the rise. Other options would only be rookie switches once the team sheets come out for the weekend. WHE seemed like a priority to bring in, but cant afford him unless I trade a mid pricer down to him which would be wasting a trade I feel. Thoughts guys?
It's a tough one TBone, but if you really want Nank this week, then get him in, Petracca could also have a breakout season and looks good so far but if it's cheap ruck cover you need, I'd go for it. i was lucky enough to start with nank as R1 and glad I did, cause he's exceeded expectations so far…he won't be any cheaper in future either unless he really spuds it up, can't see that happening though, think he likes his new role as the number 1 guy at Tigers.
Thanks Russ. Yeah good call on Nank, i went for piece of mind and got grundy and sandi for my ruck options. But you're right peace of mind is nice. Petracca is a gun and i feel that too. My other biggest problem is that I have Bowes up forward and I want to get rid of him for WHE, but have only $6,000 in the kitty. What should I do on that front? just give him another week?
I know this sounds nuts but without seeing your team you could go Grundy to Nank and then Bowes to Witts via swinging Nank back to the fwd line, so you'd have Sandi and Witts as rucks with Nank in the fwd line and a fair bit of dosh left over. Just a thought. Not much difference in scoring from Grundy to Nank.
And then you could pick up WHE next week assuming you still want him.
Didn't really need to trade this week, but went Pickett out to WHE in, went from 116 k in the bank to 26k, will Pickett improve and can WHE maintain what he's doing? Am I wasting a trade chasing points? Still got 2306 last week without any trades yet.
Any opinions appreciated guys.
Whats your full Squad look like Russell Coight
Adams Laird Lloyd Marchbank Otten Hampton —Stewart Smith
Danger Bont Fyfe Kennedy Beams Treloar Powell pepper O'Meara—Taranto Pafritt Hibberd
Nank Sandi —Preuss
Buddy Dahlhaus Mcrae Roughy Butler Houston— Eddy Pickett
I'd say Yes to that trade mate. if you haven't used any trades yet. Im going Yeo for a Keeper. I can only see WHE as a stepping stone and "WILL" hoskin-elliot himself into the wall at some stage. Team is looking good mate
Cheers Luke, yeah think I might stick with the trade, Pickett seems a bit crappish, thanks for responding bud, and good luck for the season.
I'd do Hibberd to Hanner asuming Hibberd isnt named and Hanner is
Sorry Youngy but who the hell is Hanner?
Howdy all, any input as to which trades I should make are appreciated. Current priorities are getting in Nank or Marchbank (doesn't look like I can do both this week).
DEF: Laird, Shaw, Howe, Otten, Stewart, Hampton (Smith, Hibberd)
MID: Danger, Bont, Titch, Fyfe, Beams, Treloar, SPP, JOM (Barrett, Parfitt, Pickett)
RUC: Grundy, Sandi (Preuss)
FWD: Franklin, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Roughead, Taranto, Butler (Eddy, Strndica)
$47,800 remaining.
Looks good to me…..Then again I'm a well wisher in that I wish you no specific harm
Get Nank
Strndic to Houston
im going to buck the trend and overlook Will Hoskin-Elliot….instead…..(Surprise Music) DUN DUN DUN!!!!! Elliot Yeo welcome to my team son
I Can't fathom bringing in Hoskin-Elliot only to trade him out again later. Yeo will be a FWD keeper averaging 120 at the moment. expecting a 100 average from here on in
Tis a gamble but it might pay off, he's killing it at the moment.
I really liked the first part. WHE is definitely not a must have. But Yeo is going to tapper off. He started good a couple of seasons ago and tapped off he will do it again
Hold lynch have all the good rookies but neither of marchbank or whe? Happy with my team and only $19k int the bank considering Simpkin to Hannan as first trade and then move in newnman for Joel smith next week when his on the bubble. Trading lynch is only option for getting in both of these over priced rookies from the magazine weren't none of the over priced rookies in the top cash cows ?
should i go hickey to higgins or WHE through the nankervis dpp?
Hold Hickey, he scored 98 this week.
Josh J kennedy for Sam reid whats your thoughts
Not a big fan of that one, Kennedy will outscore Reid any season, not to mention Reid's Paper Mache body.
Kennedy's a keeper but Reid never has been
Madness. Don't do it.
Agree with Tophawk
Zac Dawson might be Omitted this week. Might have to start making plans to get him out of your side everyone. hehehe
Noooooo he was my Captain too!
haha good call
Trent Cotchin for Clayton Oliver whats your thoughts
WHAT NO, HE IS AVERAGING 120+.
G'day Community. I Would love a discussion on this bloke. Elliot Yeo ($409,200 FWD) 23 years old. potential to be a keeper this year? Kicks well off both feet. Roaming the backline and midfield this year. Averaging 120 with a 140 and a 100 in two games. Finally seems to be settling into a role. He has slipped under the radar. 13th ranked player in Supercoach this year so far. Im Bucking the trend for a Will Hoskin-Elliot and going for Rank as I'm in the top 800 Ranking. I Feel you'll have to trade Hoskin-Elliot at some stage so it's not worth the 2 trades in my opinion. Would love to hear some thoughts dudes and dudettes!
Any Eagles supporters out there that seen this bloke play?
All i know is Tigerman is that he's known as the Yo Yo man, in relation to his scoring, and as a burnman in the past, not reliable, up and down, sometimes mediocre. it's a risky choice, but could pay off if he's all of a sudden become reliable.
What to do with reiwoldt? Get hoskin elliot and oliver? Or higgens? Or just wait for him to come back
He could play this week, just needs to get though tomorrow's training session.
I just went Sandy to Witts, and Pickett to WHE.
I know Sandy will average more than Witts, but neither are keepers and WHE will make much more cash than pickett and at a fast rate. This also allows me to keep Taranto, whom I think will continue improving.
Thoughts?
Yeah I don't mind that, Sandi must be feeling like he shouldn't have bothered this year with how crap Freo are going and are gonna go..and Pickett's a total spud.
Cheers Russ
G'day community, I've enjoyed a great start to the season. Happy to be sitting in the 900's and now going for overall position. My problem is….. I don't think I can do this with O'Meara and Rough. I have 230k I the kitty and can upgrade to Oliver and Buddy or Greene.
Am I crazy thinking this way, understanding the Hawks have Suns this week. They both could either have a day out or flop and I could leap frog those that hold??
Would love some experienced thoughts of this great community.
Cheers in advance.
I'd definitely go Roughy to Buddy as you are going from a mid pricer to a premium.
If you go O'meara to Oliver you are effectively backing in Oliver to be a Keeper ( Top 10 mid). I reckon that is a big risk. I also think JOM is only going to get better from week to week.
My 2 bobs worth anyhow.
Cheers Roc, understand your thinking on JOM I will hold.
Is WHE a must? If I get Buddy my final playing forward is Butler, I have cover with Eddy and Parfitt, but don't like their JS. Getting Buddy I miss the WHE boat. Your thoughts!
Only two rounds in so far Oliver looks to be a better pick than JOM but so little exposed form. Personally I still like both of them a lot. Mid price options are so hard to get right and these two both look the goods. I think stick with your first impression don't burn a precious trade on a very speculative side step…
Buddy is your ultra premium he is looking fantastic and the swankiest haven't even won yet. Your goal is to get players like this in. If you can get him you must get him. As good as his start has been the whole sc world seems to have gone WHE crazy. If you want him get him but if the cost of this call is missing out on Buddy that is completely crazy
What does everyone think of Burton from Hawks?
Too much
$254 with a score of 104 last week.. Not a bad return low BE too.
Worth getting Hannan in to replace Simpkin ?
Worth getting Hannan in for Simpkin ?
Waste of a trade
Ye agree don't trade
Parfitt —> Ainsworth?
Will the extra spend now be worth it long term?
Definitely not he is priced at nearly 200k and not averaging s great deal also. Get WHE if you don't already or march bank in def if you don't have him or otten. Ainsworth will av more than parfitt but won't necessarily make you any more cash wasted trade for sure. Parfitt to WHE isn't cause he is averaging 104 and could easily go up to 400k plus
Hold trades
Thaughts,
Ive currently traded hanners to murphy
Also lynch GC to buddy think GC are going struggle getting him the ball, these trades leave me 314k 27 trades
Hanners to murphy, bonts or pendles…?
General question, do people mostly make their trades before the round starts or do you trades during the round in case there's late outs? Obviously the latter is more preferable, but with a couple of rugrats under foot i often struggle to meet deadlines.
I usually try and do it throughout the round for late outs etc as you stated, but will just do it beforehand if i'm tied up during particular games. You can also use it to your advantage throughout the season in head2head matchups if you trade just before the games as your opponent won't know which trades you've done until it's too late for them to trade accordingly to try and beat you
I'm in Canada, so most of the games take place while I'm sleeping.
As such, I usually do them the night before (morning of?) that particular game.
I trade as late as I can.
is roughead to higgins a good trade? higgins is getting plenty of time in the guts
I'm guessing you bought Roughy hoping he'd be a keeper or at worst a good stepping stone to a premium. At the moment he's not fulfilling the first part but could still achieve the second. If you go to Higgins now, on current form, you're arguably trading him up to a premo. But Higgins is a near constant risk of missing weeks for injury. So you could find you've burnt a trade getting him and then another sending him on his way. Or you hold Roughy, hope he can average 90 odd and either keep or unload to a more reliable premium using one trade.
Both with risk, but option 1 is worst case scenario two trades, option 2 is one trade.
One further thing to consider, Roughy plays the Suns this week and may well kick a few.
A look of speculation there, so probably best to go with your gut.
Will Mitch Hibberd get another game?
I would think so but may compete with EVW throughout the year, good chance to get called up this weekend with Thompson missing for a week
Have 3 trade options i'm deciding on this week and would love some input;
1 – Roughead to WHE, J.Smith to Marchbank
2 – Roughead to WHE, Pickett/Parfitt to Butler
3 – Roughead to either WHE or Butler (only 1 trade used and leaves me with good $$$ in the bank)
Cheers
Anyone at HQ reading this….the website is still having problems loading the most current page.
On my phone the most recent post is Jocks Rd3 trade table, on my PC at work it's Barrons rookie round up and at home on my Mac it was LekDogs cheat sheet.
It's bloody boring when you're trying to keep up with the latest threads and it's been going on all preseason too..
Not whinging, just thought you'd like to know about it.
Nick Riewoldt,Josh J. Kennedy or Luke Dahlhaus
who should i get?
roo's coming back
Luke Dahlhaus Av's 92.5
Josh J. Kennedy Av's 128
plz let me know
Get roo