The Supercoach heroes, the villains and the DAMNED of 2018

Ying yang. It was that type of round, Community.

While there were some very admirable performances, plenty of our premos simply shat their pants when we needed them to stand up and be counted. It was enough to drive any decent coach to drink.

I was on the receiving end of several poor returns from my on field players, finishing with an ordinary 2146 and plummeting me out of the top 1000. But it is important that we stick to our plans and don’t panic.

The Heroes

Robbie Gray was the star of the round with a whopping 161 SC in Port’s big win while team-mate Ollie Wines (144 SC) also feasted out on a poor Freo midfield.

Rory Sloane (146 SC) and Luke Shuey (138 SC) are proving to be excellent points of difference in our premium midfields, while Marcus Bontempelli (140 SC) and Patrick Dangerfield (140 SC) are presenting as reliable captaincy options as expected.

Melbourne pair Clayton Oliver (139 SC) and Christian Salem (134 SC) look like tantalising prospects if they can keep this sort of form up.

Brodie Grundy (135 SC), Toby Nankervis (124 SC) and Stef Martin (126 SC) continue to be revelations in our ruck divisions, while Trent Cotchin (135 SC) seems to be benefiting from the inclusions of Caddy and Prestia and the extra attention on Dustin Martin (118 SC).

Jack Gunston (131 SC) gathered 22 touches and 8 tackles playing further up the ground than usual, while Lachie Neale (131 SC), Shaun Higgins (130 SC), Marc Murphy (130 SC), Joel Selwood (128 SC) and Sam Docherty (124 SC) provided their owners with good returns.

Giants trio Tobias Green (138 SC), Dylan Shiel (132 SC) and Josh Kelly (120 SC) helped put Gold Coast to the sword, with Greene finishing with 5 goals in an outstanding exhibition.

Pendles (120 SC) did what Pendles does in another effortless display, while Dayne Beams (120 SC) was everywhere for the Lions and almost helped them get over the line against the Bombers.

The Villains

Popular premo selections Tom Lynch (43 SC), Kade Simpson (57 SC) and Heath Shaw (55 SC) top this list with horrendous returns from their matches.

As a key forward, Lynch is always going to struggle to score when he’s held goalless. Not sure what Heater’s excuse was as he had only 15 touches despite the Giants’ big win. Maybe the ball didn’t get down there enough. The usually ultra-consistent Simmo’s below par score was surprising to say the least.

Gary Ablett (73 SC) looks a shadow of his former invincible self and those who took a punt on him are yet to reap the rewards. But at least he hasn’t got injured yet, right?

Rory Laird (76 SC) went from hero to zero and was lucky to crack the 70s in the end, while disposal efficiency and a tendency to handball let down team-mate Matt Crouch (76 SC) despite gathering 28 possessions.

Dan Hannebery’s (71 SC) decision to get off the piss in the off season is looking worse and worse by the week. I’m sure his owners would be suggesting he get back on the cans if he is going to dish up this sort of rubbish each week.

Swans defenders Zak Jones (55 SC) and Callum Mills (55 SC) had off nights in Sydney’s loss to the Dogs, while Matthew Boyd’s (55 SC) 21 touches came at only 66% efficiency.

Forward line options Jake Steele (67 SC) and Jack Billings (68 SC) had off nights against the Eagles as the Saints crashed and burned after a strong start.

Others to stink it up included Jack Viney (64 SC), Aaron Sandilands (72 SC) and Patrick Ryder (76SC).

The Prodigies

Will Hoskin-Elliott (120 SC) and Andy Otten (108 SC) were the two standout options from the young guns with both cracking nice tons. The hyphened one was brilliant for Collingwood despite their disappointing loss, slotting 3 goals and clunking 12 marks.

Power trio Sam Powell-Pepper (91 SC), Dan Houston (82 SC) and Brett Eddy (77 SC) all excelled but keep in mind they can’t play Freo every week.

Tim Taranto (75 SC) redeemed himself after a poor first outing while Nic Newman (73 SC DEF) and Will Hayward (82 SC MID/FWD) both enjoyed excellent debuts for Sydney and should be good rookie options if they can keep their places in the Swans side.

Popular selections Curtly Hampton (64 SC), Daniel Butler (65 SC), Ben Ainsworth (64 SC), Jake Barrett (50 SC) and Jy Simpkin (47 SC) were all reasonable without being outstanding.

Andy McGrath (56 SC), Sam Petrevski-Seton (54 SC) and Oliver Florent (44 SC) all looked ok but loom as management risks for their owners, while debutants Teia Miles (46 SC) and Robbie Fox (44SC) are still finding their feet at AFL level.

After showing a bit last week Brandon Parfitt (36 SC), Mitch Hannan (31 SC), Jack Bowes (26 SC) and Harry Marsh (31 SC) were very ordinary in their second outings, while Jarrod Pickett (35 SC) had only 9 touches.

The Damned

Jack Steven (60 SC) punctured his lung early in the match against the Eagles, but bravely played on, which would explain his low output. He is expected to be out for this week at least. Nathan Hrovat (57 SC) has put in two disappointing performances in a row and it might be time for his owners to consider a corrective trade, while the same goes for Cam McCarthy (29 SC).

Injury-prone Kurt Tippett (11 SC) stuffed his ankle and looks set for an extended stint on the sidelines. Josh Gibson (46 SC) no longer looks like a relevant SuperCoach option in defence and should be offloaded immediately.

Community, your thoughts about Supercoach Round 2?

Twitter: @CarlPfeiffer9

526 Comments

SCDamien · 03/04/2017 at 12:15

While Parfitt will continue to make money, I think it won't be long before he starts leaking coin. He'll probably be the first rookie of mine to hit the trade table. Harley Balic and Ben Long will be on the bubble when the time comes too, most likely.

Great write up Carlos. I look forward to this article every Monday.

    Tim · 03/04/2017 at 12:21

    The disappointing thing about Parfitt's performance was he was on about 26 pts at 1/4 time. Hardly touched it after that and when he did, he got tackled or had a clanger.

      INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 12:33

      Actually he was on 26 about 5 minutes into the game after he kicked a goal. Barely heard his name after that. He can't have much JS. I'm surprised he's playing in front of Menegola. Surely that won't last long

        SCDamien · 03/04/2017 at 12:43

        Menegola is/was injured, wasn't he?

          INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 13:23

          Menegola had 35 touches 7 tackles 5 Marks & a goal in the VFL on the weekend. If he was injured he isn't anymore. And it's safe to say someone will be booted for his inclusion this week. The Cats have a history of giving the kids a couple then putting them back in the VFL. And I'm afraid Mr Parfitt could well be the next of our rookies to disappear

            Noirlust · 03/04/2017 at 13:52

            Darcy Lang will be outed back to VFL for menangola

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 12:26

    Parfitt's BE will still be negative for a couple of weeks at least if he keeps scoring 40-50 points per game. All he needs is a 70+ game and he'll push that BE down again.

      Tim · 03/04/2017 at 12:41

      I think JS is the issue going forward

        SCDamien · 03/04/2017 at 14:24

        His JS should be okay while Cockatoo is injured, but it's probably a flip of the coin between him and Lang who stays in the team.

Tim · 03/04/2017 at 12:15

You had me excited when reading Will Hayward was a MID/FWD but on double checking, he is only a FWD. So many rookie options in the FWD line, needs some MIDS.

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 12:35

    Harley Balic. Remember that name. Surely Ross has to give him a go now. Ball magnet gun who is destroying the WAFL

      Tim · 03/04/2017 at 12:41

      You would think he's a sure thing for rd3

        INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 12:46

        You would think that Tim. But it's Ross & he's a dick head

          Patch · 03/04/2017 at 12:56

          That's the sting, IN. Ross wouldn't know a good footballer if he stepped in one. In fact you could throw him in a pool of good footballers and he'd still walk out with Zac Dawson as his "catch"

            INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 13:00

            HAHA Patch. I wonder which gun he'll drop to the WAFL this year. Probably Fyfe

          Stirlsy · 03/04/2017 at 14:59

          Watched his (Balic's) first 2 games and were both great games not sure how he went on the weekend but Peel got beat.
          He had 28 in first game and 33 last week he must be close, was another kid as well that looked alright in first 2 games, think he might be in front of Balic was named emg for Freo on weekend, can't think of his name but it starts with M.

        Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:04

        Heard rumours that he wants to get a few kids in within the next few weeks after the Port performance

          INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 13:24

          So did I Danners. But he may have mistaken the word Kids with Veterans

          Stirlsy · 03/04/2017 at 15:22

          At his presser he said play kids and the good servants who weren't up to it will make way.
          He was just letting his love child know his about to be dropped.

      Neil Demons Delight · 03/04/2017 at 13:45

      if only it wasn't with Lyin

Steven Jurica · 03/04/2017 at 12:20

That round was as dirty as Carl's moustacca.

HallyMate · 03/04/2017 at 12:20

Currently sitting at a ranking of 150 which I'm stoked with, what's everyone's thoughts on Steele? Just doesn't seem to be getting enough midtime which is surprising

    Tim · 03/04/2017 at 12:25

    I'm holding on the basis that Steven is out for 2-4 weeks so Steele should get more midfield time over that period then I'll re-assess.

      Carl · 03/04/2017 at 13:32

      Spot on! Also coming from a late start to preseason so expecting him to improve as the seasons goes

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 12:27

    He's still a good pick for mine. With Jack Steven set to miss a couple of weeks at least with a punctured lung, Steele should get more mid time.

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 12:36

    Has a break even of 22. Not a concern this week

    SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 12:57

    Have we been conned by another Feb flyer Lumumba style?

    Fortunately he recovered in the 2nd half to at least get his 65 average from last season so I guess we should be thankful for that much, after an abysmal first half. For if he only finished with 35pts it might be a completely different conversation this morning

    But I think we should cut him a little bit of slack as plenty of our so called premos spudded over the weekend but if he backs up with another 60 this weekend the duped alert will begin to sound. But for now he's making us some cash so let's see what happens this weekend against the Lions and hopefully he can get back on track with a 90 plus .

      Kangas18 · 04/04/2017 at 07:56

      Just 66% TOG too. That didn't help.

    Patch · 03/04/2017 at 12:58

    Playing on Subi didn't suit him – does his best contested work in the cramped spaces of Etihad. Give him another few weeks – will still make cash. Steven out will only help him, as Tim mentioned

      INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 13:26

      Steele is playing at Etihad against the Lions this week. You'd be mad to get rid of him

        Carl · 03/04/2017 at 14:11

        Could be 140+ JLT style

J.K · 03/04/2017 at 12:23

Community, got some serious MondayRageTradeitis going on!

Considering punting Cal Mills, maybe for Marchbank, and using the cash to go Parfait/Picket to WHE.

I know I know, I picked Millsy for a reason etc etc. Should I really stick with him at the expense of getting those two money makers in? In hindsight the chances of Millsy being a top 6 DEF seem very slim. Should have went Lloyd instead. Thanks legends

    SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 13:05

    Marchbank is close to a must have in my book and Mills has not performed in the first fortnight so I'd make that move myself. It was always going to be doubtful that Mills was going to finish a top defender in his 2nd season but I can understand the punt and Marchbank has performed to expectation so far, or even surpassed it.

    So if you are going to scrap what you see as a failed midpricer or premo then your best option is usually to jump on the juiciest cows before their price explodes.

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:06

    Good trades, Mills is a midpricer which we all can't get them all right . I never would have seen Mills averaging well anyway

      J.K · 03/04/2017 at 13:37

      Thanks for the response guys – unless someone steps in to talk me out of it I will be running with those trades.

        Hanners U Tool · 03/04/2017 at 15:12

        Defs do that!

    Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:33

    i have Mills as well and was very keen on him all pre-season.

    He was my only mid-pricer who wasn't a fallen premium and i thought one will be ok. It wasn't.

    Can't see him being top 6. May have to trade him to the Nank

      J.K · 03/04/2017 at 16:41

      I think all of those intercept possies in one of the pre-season games induced some premature arousal on my part Derek! He might prove me wrong but unless he is taking intercept marks he seems to struggle to win his own pill. Although it has only been two weeks it seems an average in the 80s is best case, which just won't do.

      Like the Nank trade – he is close to a must now isn't he?

        Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:51

        don't tell anyone i'm considering The Nank. Pure correction trade.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2017 at 08:51

    Lloyd appears a better pick than Mills. Getting some mid time.
    Though to be fair to mills that midfield time he was going to get pre season has vanished due to the swans injuries in the back line and he has been asked to mind the second best sometimes the best opposition forward
    So due to other factors cut and go with your plan

      dave · 04/04/2017 at 12:52

      i have mills and have been second guessing myself whether or not I should make a corrective trade but the reality is he is only going to lose max 10k this round, and with other underperforming premiums (shaw/simpson) last round they are bound to lose more cash in the coming weeks.

      for all we know mills could pump a 100 this round.. i'm not keeping him for the long hall because i dont think he will be a top 6 defender but im not going to get rid of him based on 2 rounds.. i already have laird and adams, so at this point docherty would be my only trade option but am 2k short on cash unfortunately..

      for now he is a hold for me.

        dave · 04/04/2017 at 12:53

        personally my only issue in my team with mills is how overcrowded i am with midpricers..
        offloaded roughhead to whe for cash generation

        however also have steele, sandi, omeara and higgins – although they are performing quite well at the moment things can change quickly..

        ranked 7000th overal

    wighty · 04/04/2017 at 15:08

    Doing a similar thing…..J Martin and Taranto to WHE and Houston……show me the money !!!

Simmo6 · 03/04/2017 at 12:25

What's the communities thoughts on Luke Parker.. knee already strapped. Looks like he is already carrying an injury? Sideways trade to slone or bontempelli?

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:07

    I have him as well and didn't know of this. Still hold should do pretty well against Collingwood

    adam · 03/04/2017 at 13:22

    Simmo my thoughts exactly… he looked slow on friday night and I also noticed spent a lot of time forward which also has me concerned… sometimes SC takes a few ballsy moves and this maybe one… I am leaning towards a swap for the Bont this week… just think the bont could be on his way to a permanent price in the $600's which may make him unattainable later… Parker will slide to low 500's on his current output

      Dildor · 03/04/2017 at 19:29

      Is an extra 20-40k really that unattainable for bont? I think probably not.

        adam · 03/04/2017 at 22:53

        if he averages 125 from here to round 10 you will need more than 20-40k to pick him up post byes.. off that average his price will be approx $648k… paying $650k means less cash for other upgrades..

    SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 13:23

    I have Parks in RealDreamTeam but will be holding this week for sure. I don't believe he's carrying anything although it always impossible to know for sure when someone is undeperforming. But usually it's just ordinary form woes and confidence to blame.

    The Swans midfield have really struggled against some excellent opposition but it probably won't be too long before they kick into gear. Definitely want to see how their midfield go against the Pies who can give up fantasy points to their opponents.

    For all we know this could be the week they turn it all around and we can finally say TFFT ha ha!

    Lazza · 03/04/2017 at 14:57

    Parker was always going to be a slow track to form. He had pre-season surgery, no way he should have been selected before the bye rounds.

      Abel · 03/04/2017 at 21:13

      Cheers. Great input

Goose · 03/04/2017 at 12:26

Get rid of Pickett for Dan Butler for more cash generation or hold onto trades?

    Tim · 03/04/2017 at 12:27

    Do it, need to make corrective trades to get the right rookies in for cash generation.

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 13:06

    Yep if you haven't got Butler then you need to get him in.

    redgumwon · 03/04/2017 at 13:53

    Butler had a cracker of a first game against Carlton 96 and Carlton. Game two against the pies 65. First two games against average sides who won't make the top 8. This week Tigers come up against West Coast who are a strong side with a very good defence. Butler will score less than 65 nothing surer. Pickett will keep playing as Carlton are going to play the kids more this year. Pickett is also coming off an ankle reco from last year Pickett should keep improving and not to mention DDP. I think save the trade and keep Pickett as a slow burn on your bench while adding some DDP cover between mid/fwd

      INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 14:12

      It's worth noting the Blues traded a first round draft pick to GWS for the Marchbank/Pickett package. They are going to want to develop those boys for their investment. Port plays a Showdown this week. They will want to field the strongest team they can. Hamish Hartlett & Jasper Pittard will be available & almost certain inclusions. So who makes way. My guess is Eddy & Houston

        Goose · 03/04/2017 at 21:37

        If Eddy gets dropped do you reckon trade him for Butler instead of the Pickett trade and pick Eddy back up later as a downgrade if the timing is right? Or go with the Pickett trade and wait for Eddy/Houston to get the recall?

      Boltons Blues · 03/04/2017 at 15:27

      Exactly, Pickett has the best job security out of all our rookies, Carlton need kids and they need small forwards who can apply forward pressure, ticks all those boxes

        Andos · 03/04/2017 at 19:51

        Andrew Gallucci kicked 3 goals for Blues 2nds on the weekend, could be knocking on the door for a small forward spot. He's had 12 months out injured and Blues will be keen to see what he can do on the big stage. Hopefully this pressure for a spot makes Pickett dig deeper!

          Andos · 03/04/2017 at 20:02

          Strike that, I think Andrew Gallucci is still on rookie list.

Ozz · 03/04/2017 at 12:26

Hey lads,
started off the season alright and havent had to make any trades yet, should i hold roughead and ryder or trade? if so what are some trade options?

    Tim · 03/04/2017 at 12:28

    Roughy to WHE seems to be a popular trade. Free's up some cash while WHE is set to make some good coin.

      Steeeve · 03/04/2017 at 13:14

      That's what I'm doing.

    Boltons Blues · 03/04/2017 at 15:28

    Hold roughy, 1 year out of the game with cancer, will take to find his feet, once his match fitness is up i reckon you'll find him in the middle alot more, plus, we need to wait for the Hawks to gel a lot more before we start axing the players, hes not losing cash, so im holding

    bUCKET__ · 03/04/2017 at 16:07

    Why'd you get both in?

    They are key position players and are bound to be inconsistent, so hopefully you weren't expecting consistent 100s. But they haven't exactly produced poor scores either. If you got them as keepers, you should be backing them in still: both have played pretty well for minimal goals, and there's no new reason to think that bags of goals won't come eventually.

    If you got them as cash generators, trading to WHE makes sense. But selecting them in the first place for that reason probably wasn't a good move.

jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 12:30

Time for some rookie correctional trades. Definitely flicking Taranto for Hoskin-Elliot, mainly because with that 120 point game WHE will make cash at a faster rate than Taranto. Not sure what to do with J. Smith this week though. Only have $35K in the bank to use. What do the community think of Newman's job security? With Rampe out with a busted arm does he stay in the side?

    Beezneez · 03/04/2017 at 12:53

    Was able to use Smith as a loophole and took Ottens score.Useful for that till get another look at Newman and see if Berry plays.

      jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 12:56

      Won't be able to do that this week as Melbourne play Geelong before Adelaide plays, so if I keep Smith both he and Stewart will be locked before the Adelaide game starts and I won't get a look at Hampton/Otten

      Neil Demons Delight · 03/04/2017 at 13:53

      couldn't agree more beez though I am sure Newmans gold

    Carl · 03/04/2017 at 14:20

    I'd be keeping Smith until Newman is named for his 3rd game. He looks the goods but no need to rush the trade unless you're going to have a donught?

      jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 16:13

      Yeah will probably end up holding him I think as I don't have the cash to get McGrath. Will probably go Petrevski-Senton to WHE via fwd/mid swing (which allows me to keep Taranto) and hold my other trade. Can get Newman or Hayward once they're on the bubble.

Ben Kerrigan · 03/04/2017 at 12:31

McCarthy out hoskin elliot in for me

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 12:47

    No brainer

    Fig · 04/04/2017 at 18:01

    Same here. Also flicking T Lynch for Higgins as Lynch doesnt look like he will see the ball down the forward line for GC

MorrowSC · 03/04/2017 at 12:31

Average as move but I'm considering trading out Hanners, Petreski-Seton (took a punt on him) to Higgins and Hoskin-Elliot… had Higgins all pre-season but didn't have the balls to pick him and paying for it now, reckon he's a keeper in the forward line with his new role and want to get some more POD mids in there next few weeks.. allows me to have a $250k kitty for a quick upgrade to a fallen Shuey, Dusty perhaps.

    wighty · 04/04/2017 at 15:10

    SC rule 101….never trade a fallen premo on the back of a couple of bad games.

INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 12:39

Jack Steven playing the game with a punctured lung & scoring 60 means he should have the Hero section to himself. That's extraordinary

    Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:35

    Birchell played half a game with a broken Jaw. Will miss 4-6.

The Magpie Dentist · 03/04/2017 at 12:47

KK out for Hoskin-Elliot and Pickett out for Butler, worth considering?

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 12:57

    I really don't like what I've seen from the Suns. They are a train wreck. The odds of KK being a 95+ keeper are extremely remote. I like those trades as correctives as long as it doesn't leave your defence to exposed

    SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 13:35

    I'd do the KK to WHE move although I've never been the world's greatest KK believer so have some cognitive bias there. Not sure I'd pull the Pickett to Butler trade unless Pickett gets dropped this week. If he say slots 3 goals against the Dons this weekend and scores a 75 suddenly he is making some decent coin.

    Not saying that will happen of course but if it does and Butler goes goal less against the white hot Eagles you might be then wondering why you burnt a trade in the first place. I have Pickett, Barrett and Parfitt who could all make way for Butler so part of me is hoping one of them gets dropped to justify a Butler trade in.

    But otherwise I will just give Butler a skip and save the trade as we've seen how wildly some of these rookie scores can vary from week to week like Hannan and Otten for example. There will be other Butlers to jump on in the coming weeks so you don't have to get on every single one right now.

      The Magpie Dentist · 03/04/2017 at 18:53

      Thanks for the advice guys

      Yeah the Suns don't look inspired whatsoever, I definitely will make the KK to WHE trade. I agree with you SC Addict that there'll be more rookies to come as the season wears on

Liam · 03/04/2017 at 12:47

Should I trade sps to whe ?

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:07

    Yes, WHE would have better JS

      Dnoyes · 03/04/2017 at 15:38

      WHE is defintely better, but surely SPS has pretty good job security. Considering that SPS had an interrupted preseason I am expecting him to keep developing. Personally I'm keeping SPS and will be using him as my 19th man in case I need emergency cover in the midfield or forwardline (I have Steele)

        whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:11

        Took him over taranto. Will be watching him grow as Taranto moves into the seconds and stagnates at around 300-350k

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 13:13

    Yes

John · 03/04/2017 at 12:49

Is trading Tim Taranto to Hoskin-Elliot a bad idea?

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:08

    No, WHE would have better JS

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 13:09

    I'm pulling the trigger on that trade myself. WHE will make cash quicker than Taranto before the byes, which is what our starting rookies are for really.

      Daizy · 03/04/2017 at 15:07

      I think it's a poor trade.
      Every second person on here trading Taranto for WHE.
      I agree hoskin Elliot is worth bringing in I just don't think Taranto should b the one to make way.
      He looked heaps better the other day and looks to have bought himself a few games.
      Taranto is one good score away from getting his price moving. Ur all gonna look pretty silly if he hits 100 this week and I think he's a chance

        Kev · 03/04/2017 at 15:26

        Personally I don't think it's a case of him buying more games if he plays well. Once Coniglio and Whitfield return Taranto will probably get squeezed out

          Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:36

          until he gets squeezed out, i think he should stay.

        Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 15:09

        Yes have to agree, If you have an under performing premium (Hanners,Treloar) who is going to bleed money, you can S Taranto to mid bench and have plenty of cash for WHE or Reid or both.
        There are more options than you think….

          whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:10

          You're off your head he's averaging 102 one good score and he'll be back to performing for his price tag of 600k.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 18:44

    Taranto was always a trap in that GWS outfit. People don't learn.

      Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 15:12

      Don't be silly Billy. Taranto is no worse than most of the rookies and will make money for those that hold for a few weeks.

        whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:09

        GWS have a lot of depth, and they had/have Coniglio/Hopper/De Boer returning probably among others.

        If Mzungu didn't get injured he probably would've got dropped for Hopper last week.

        When there's players like WHE and Marchbank for 200K-ish you don't need another one with limited JS.

        I prefer the Petreski-Seton pick in a club that is rebuilding.

luke · 03/04/2017 at 12:49

roughy to nankervis?

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:08

    Is what I'm doing so I suppose it would be a good trade

      Noirlust · 03/04/2017 at 13:56

      already done for me, i liked roughy, but when there is someone the same price scoring 40 points more, it becomes a no brainer.

    ron swanson · 03/04/2017 at 14:27

    Thinking the same. Then they mention Soldo could come in. How does that affect the Nank? It is never easy…..

Izzy · 03/04/2017 at 12:54

trading either roughy or ryder, who stays?

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:09

    Roughie stays, has averaged over 90 for a lot more seasons than Ryder has

    Webspyda · 03/04/2017 at 15:51

    Ryder as he plays for a better side
    Roughy is not playing in the same Hawks of old

      whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 18:43

      Both traps that many bought into.

      Lewyhewy · 04/04/2017 at 12:12

      Mate the hawks lost two games. When the [email protected] have the power been good, 2007!!! The hawks will hit there straps soon, you would have to be a dickhead to rate the power over the hawks, roughy for me

        Crowmagnon · 04/04/2017 at 16:58

        So far this year Port ARE better than Hawthorn.

Dice · 03/04/2017 at 12:56

J. Pickett out for D. Butler
M. Hibberd out for ?????? N. Newman?

    SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 13:50

    I wouldn't do either unless Picket gets dumped or not taking Newman means an onfield donut for you this week. As good as Newman looked last week it's always prudent to wait until rookies have played two weeks just in case he either spuds and/or gets dropped next week even if that doesn't seem particularly likely right now. Those coaches who jumped early on Hannan for Eddy may have some regrets this morning.

    Some coaches will argue that trading Pickett to Butler is worthwhile and they may end up being right but personally I'll be holding Pickett if he plays and passing on Butler fwiw. There will be other bubble boys to trade Pickett to soon enough if he proves a failure but I think it's still a little too early to tell.

      redgumwon · 03/04/2017 at 14:03

      Well said SCaddict. There seem to be far to many coaches ready to hit the trade button in panic

      @t_woof · 03/04/2017 at 17:50

      Eddy to Hannan. I am one of them. Sad.

      Agree with you Addict. I also own Barrett, Pickett and Parfitts along with being Butlerless. Will be following suit and passing on Butler if all those three rookies are named. Liked the way Hayward played, so have my eye on him.

    wighty · 04/04/2017 at 15:14

    Wait till Newman plays second game and is selected for 3rd….Hibberds price wont change if he isnt selected.

Neale · 03/04/2017 at 13:00

Is Sam Reid a risk

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 13:09

    He might do alright while Tippett is out, but definitely a big risk. Try and get cheaper rookies before looking at him

    Kev · 03/04/2017 at 13:19

    Not counting his debut season where he only played one game, he's averaged between 58-71 over 5 seasons. Expect more of the same

    Steeeve · 03/04/2017 at 13:19

    Is water wet?

    Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 15:16

    High risk but good chance of High reward if continues for a few more weeks $$$$$$$$$
    Thats the name of the game now POD $$$$$$$$$$ Proj 75.9k increase. V WHE 64.6k

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:04

    Should've started with him if you thought he was good value. Chasing. Will cost two trades because he won't be a keeper.

    ULTRA-slim chances of being a keeper if you look at his career.

Daniel · 03/04/2017 at 13:07

Is tim Taranto to Hoskin Elliot a decent trade?

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 13:13

    Only if Taranto is dropped. He still has a 0 break even

    Kev · 03/04/2017 at 13:20

    See John's post above

Freddie · 03/04/2017 at 13:13

Thoughts on Roughead to Nankervis
and O meara to Murphy

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 15:02

    Don't mind the Rough to Nank trade, but hold O'Meara.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 18:47

    Chasing or correcting? Time will tell.

Harry · 03/04/2017 at 13:19

I want to get in Nankervis….trade out Lynch or dont bother?

    J.K · 03/04/2017 at 13:53

    IMHO you want to hold Lynch. I know GC are a rabble but he is a proven premo and despite only kicking 2 goals in the first two weeks still has an average of 70 odd. He will start finding the sticks soon surely.

    That being said, Nank is close to a must. Any other way?

Dogs · 03/04/2017 at 13:19

Roughy down to WHE for me. It's my first trade and I need it for cash generation. Then need to look at a replacement for smith, hopefully Newman holds his spot at the swans.

Steeeve · 03/04/2017 at 13:19

Anyone want a crack listing the following rookies from most job security to least? Here's my attempt.
S Powell-Pepper
D Butler
J Barrett
C Hampton
T Stewart
A Otten
M Hannan
J Pickett
T Taranto
D Houston
B Preuss
B Parfitt
B Eddy
This is based on performance but more importantly the other players to come back in for their sides, which helps guys like Pickett but hurts a LOT of others including Preuss and Houston who have otherwise been impressive.

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 13:34

    I reckon from that list:

    Powell-Pepper (by the length of the Flemington straight)
    Butler
    Barrett
    Otten
    Hampton
    Stewart
    Taranto
    Pickett

    Then throw a blanket over the rest.

    Boltons Blues · 03/04/2017 at 15:31

    Pickett is up there with the rest of them, Carlton are playing kids, they didnt give up a first rounder for Marchbank and Pickett for either of them to play in the VFL.

      Steeeve · 03/04/2017 at 15:44

      Good to hear. Haven't caught a Blues game yet, where is Pickett playing? Saw him listed on a wing round 1 and back pocket round 2. But judging by his scores he has mainly been playing with himself, on the bench.

        Boltons Blues · 03/04/2017 at 17:41

        Forward half of the ground, as you can see, my blues struggle to score, he will struggle, can be a decent onballer i reckon

          Kev · 03/04/2017 at 20:13

          Ran down Hunt after giving him a 15mtr headstart! He is enormously talented and footy smart he will be given every chance to improve his confidence and by mid season will probably have an offensive fwd role with a bit of midfield time rather than primarily a defensive fwd which he is now.

            Steeeve · 04/04/2017 at 08:19

            I'm holding. Only needs one big game to make money aka Menapoo

    Mac D · 04/04/2017 at 01:42

    Hi

Steven Jurica · 03/04/2017 at 13:27

Hoskin-Elliot has Jarrad Waite of last year written all over him. He didn't play on anyone against the Tigers and had to kick 3 goals in order to get his SC score up to 120. PASS..

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 13:38

    WHE's job security is the most important thing though. The difference between him and Waite is that Waite wasn't priced at $213K at the start of 2016. Just need WHE to play until the byes then turf him, doesn't matter if he only averages 70-80 in that time.

      Steven Jurica · 03/04/2017 at 13:55

      So you're burning two trades on the one bloke to get him and then out, your funeral.

        jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 14:01

        I'll most likely end up keeping Taranto and trading out Petrevski-Senton for WHE via a forward/mid swing. But given how sparse quality rookies are this year, people may need to burn a couple of trades to get the best rookies. Using two trades (in some cases) can be justified.

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 18:48

        Start with WHE. Winning.

    J.K · 03/04/2017 at 13:54

    Even if he trips over his own feet to a couple of 50s over the next few weeks he will still make sufficient coin to justify selection won't he? No-one is saying he is a keeper – with rookies so poor overall I get the feeling that early season $ generation will be key. Just my two cents of course.

    SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 14:02

    The key difference for me is that Waite was meant to be a season long keeper. WHE will be more than likely a short term stepping stone to a Macrae type. If he scores even just 75 this week he will jump about $75K. Unless Bucks totally screws with his role which is a possibility of course it's hard to see how he won't make at least an easy $150K from here which is all that we really need from a cow with excellent JS.

    Bottom line coaches need to decide what they are doing on the WHE front this week (if they don't already have him) as if he scores well again this weekend it will definitely be too late to jump on next week as that ship will well and truly have sailed.

    Either way it's going to be damn interesting to see what happens Friday night as about half the community are hoping he tons up again and the other half will be hoping he spuds out a pitiful 30 so that they can say their "I told you so's". 🙂

    Whatyasmoking · 03/04/2017 at 18:37

    Nothing like Jarrad Waite in any aspect. A forward had to kick 3 goals to get 120. Mhmm big pass. Ludicrous.

      Tim · 03/04/2017 at 19:09

      Agree entirely Whatyasmoking.

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 20:16

        For starters Waite cost around 430K if I recall. he's long in the tooth etc etc etc etc

    Kev · 03/04/2017 at 20:16

    I hope he's like Jarrad Waite 2016. A couple of 140+ nuthin below 110 in the first 6 weeks will be absolute SC gold

    Kim · 04/04/2017 at 09:02

    He is even getting some midfield time so very easy decision for me to get him in. I went Pickett to WHE so I have another on field option compared to Pickett who was on my bench and will make up that 80k this week after his price rise.

    Tony · 04/04/2017 at 14:17

    In a site full of information, I suppose we have to cop the occasional misinformation. This is the most amateur (mis)comparison I've seen in a while, though. It can only prove accurate if WHE dominates, leads the comp for points six weeks in and then has his season destroyed by injury.

Iconic · 03/04/2017 at 13:34

Who to trade – 2 of; J. Smith, M. Hibberd, J. Pickett, B. Parfitt, D. Cameron, Z. Guthrie

Trading out for WHE + A. Otten/N. Newman

    Carl · 03/04/2017 at 15:59

    Otten over Newman until he is on the bubble – I'll be trading Smith > Newman when that happens. He can be a loophole until then and isn't loosing money.
    Parfitt of those would be the first to go, maybe Hibberd next. Both havnt excelled.

    THE BONT · 03/04/2017 at 16:52

    Keep Cameron he will play cos Tippett went down on the weekend

redgumwon · 03/04/2017 at 14:00

Not really save the trade.. O'Meara is finding the pill he just needs to kick it more 🙂 How long until Murphy gets injured again? JOM is a cash generating machine until you're ready to upgrade to a premo

Gren · 03/04/2017 at 14:03

Hvorat to whe and ? Treloar Mr 300 touches for 100sc points to C.Oliver keeping 300k in the bank for upgrades??

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 14:20

    I don't mind Hvorvat to WHE. But Treloar to Oliver is a move the gods will almost certainly punish you for

    Zander · 03/04/2017 at 23:43

    Dont drop Treloar, he will be solid across the whole year. Just wasting a trade if you do.

    If these first two games swayed you – you must not have been sold on him from the start, in which case, why did you pick him?

    Kim · 04/04/2017 at 09:06

    I wouldn't trade treloar mate he is a keeper who will only get better. Priddis is averaging 99 after 2 games treloar is 102 not the end on the world. Oliver has started very well unlikely he will keep it up, remember Melb has won both games pies have lost both. Waste of a trade in my opinion you will need all 30 trades this season esp with less reliable rookies.

Zac · 03/04/2017 at 14:06

What should we do with hanners? If I trade him who should I trade him for

    Charlie · 03/04/2017 at 17:04

    Don't trade him

Emma · 03/04/2017 at 14:09

WHE or Witts I can trade Tarintino to either with my ruck swing, or should I keep Tarintino?

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 14:38

    I wouldn't trade a guy with a 0 break even. But if you must then Witts. Amongst the discussions of all the must have rookies he's being overlooked

    Kim · 04/04/2017 at 09:10

    Keep him he is one big game away from making a lot of extra cash. I can see him averaging 70+ from here on out he is a gun look at his jlt stats no fluke

SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 14:22

Not for me even though I just have the cash to do that and no other real trade plans if all my rookies play. JOM had 36 touches against a serious premiership contender so he has no trouble finding the footy. Just a shame 30 off them were handballs otherwise he would've tonned up for sure.

Hawks will be looking for their first win of the season and I expect them to take their frustrations out on the Suns so JOM, Roughie and Titch owners could be in for a field day, or at least here's hoping.

Although Smurph or Oliver could indeed end up being one of the best fantasy pickups of the season I wouldn't be using JOM to get there myself.

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 14:41

    An addict with spare cash. I find this hard to believe SCA!

      SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 14:49

      Gee you really don't miss much INP. You'd be shocked to know i actually have a 6 figure bank balance right now although how long I can resist the temptation to splurge it all on my fantasy addiction remains to be seen.

        INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 15:04

        We argued about this all preseason & now you have a 6 figure bank & I'm under that! How the world can change so fast

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/04/2017 at 15:13

          Sure can.
          Had nothing to start the season almost used every cent
          2 trades this week which I can see as only improving my team all.of a sudden 6 figures bank balance.
          Doesn't take much. Will come in real handy I feel.

        Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:39

        who did you trade WHE for?

          SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 17:02

          Got lucky when Matt Kennedy was dumped on the team sheets last Thursday. Was 50/50 about starting he or WHE in the preseason so after I saw WHE perform in Rd1 it was an easy decision to make when MK got omitted. So the fantasy gods definitely looked after me on that one.

            INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 20:10

            That's the kindest the gods get! Insane ROI

Jason Di Staso · 03/04/2017 at 14:26

Is vickers willis to otten a waste of trade
Already trading mcarthty to whe

    Kev · 03/04/2017 at 15:32

    No. If EVW isn't named this week you need the right rookies in to make cash

Rivo · 03/04/2017 at 14:41

Concerned over M.Crouch at M5. Poor score on the weekend and not convinced he will boom this season. Other options include Heppel, Murphy & Beams. Thoughts or a wasted trade?

    jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 14:59

    Hmm tough one. Crouch's ability to consistently go 100+ is why I didn't pick him. Personally I think he'll be outscored by all three of those players you mentioned. So if you're still not 100% sold on him, you'll need to pull the trigger now.

    RobDog · 03/04/2017 at 15:58

    Crouch has had two tough games and another this week, then it opens up a bit. I'm holding for now and will re=evaluate in a couple of weeks. Only one poor score and he's getting plenty of the pill, am backing him to lift.

      Leeds17 · 03/04/2017 at 22:23

      TOG dropped this game need to be playing 80%+.

        Jiggs · 03/04/2017 at 23:04

        how do you find his TOG cos thats what im concerned about too

          mich · 03/04/2017 at 23:07

          footy live app has it

    Abel · 03/04/2017 at 20:36

    Beams

      Rivo · 03/04/2017 at 22:09

      Ok. What about Crouch & Barrett to Beams & WHE via DPP swing?

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:07

        I'd be tempted, very tempted. Could be a big move.

        Nobody worse than barrett to move on? His JS should be decent.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/04/2017 at 14:41

Is that a record?
6 Villians in one week?
That just sucks.
Nice one Carl.

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 15:15

    5 Villains for me Trig. But somehow it feels like I had more

SC17 · 03/04/2017 at 14:42

I have 90K in the bank.
I am thinking of doing Roughead to Higgins and Taranto to WHE.
Thoughts?

    Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 15:24

    I would go roughy to WHE and keep Taranto

jez_m · 03/04/2017 at 15:01

Hold O'Meara. Had 30+ touches on the weekend, just needs to kick the damn thing when he gets it.

Steven's good lung · 03/04/2017 at 15:14

Is Tom Mitchell a top 10 mid by years end?

    Kev · 03/04/2017 at 15:20

    I think just outside. He has a friendly SC game but some weeks his tendency to handball a lot may catch up with him

    Boltons Blues · 03/04/2017 at 15:32

    Gets a hard ball, but handballs alot.
    Like a Mat Priddas in a way

    Steeeve · 03/04/2017 at 15:51

    My top 10 from before the season started, in no real order:
    Danger
    Fyfe
    Pendles
    JPK
    Treloar
    Bont
    Cripps
    T Mitchell
    Hannebry
    Gray

    After two rounds I'd sub out Hannebry for one of: Jelwood, Rockliff, Priddis, Neale, Parker, Sloane or Dusty.

    Overall that's 17 players I could picture going top 10. I'd be happy with any combo of them by the end of the year. T Mitchell included.

      neil DEMONS DELIGHT · 03/04/2017 at 17:36

      only one change jelwood a must for cripps

    Burnmen · 03/04/2017 at 16:39

    Danger
    Pendles
    Rockliff
    Fyfe
    Bont
    Sloane
    Gray
    Martin
    Treloar
    Oliver

      The Saltshaker · 03/04/2017 at 17:40

      so youre saying oliver is going the merrett way not the zaha way? interesting he does look good but not sure on him over titch, jpk,
      beams murphy or heppell

      hedski · 03/04/2017 at 20:42

      Jelwood and JPK surely

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:40

        Yeah just threw together a top 10-ish type list that may be different than the norm and based on current form.

        There'd be Jelwood, JPK, Merrett, Titch, Cripps, Neale and others (ie GWS Kelly/Coniglio?/Ward) as well in contention for top 10 spots.

        Then there's left field picks like heppel and the always breaking into uber category wines (not convinced), even Beams imo.

        Personally think Cotchin/Murphy/Priddis/S.Mitchell will be just out of the top spots, but you never know.

        Then there's Gaz, he's capable of anything.

Nathan · 03/04/2017 at 15:20

Sam Reid is going well- is he good pick for cash generation? He is only 50k ish more then WHE and has a great BE- also nice draw coming up. Thoughts community?

    Bob · 03/04/2017 at 15:25

    Avoid key forwards

    Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:48

    nah….. have a look at Burton from the hawks. played his first game for the year with 104SC.

    kid can play…. they gave him SMitch's #5 jumper.

    Birchell out for 6 weeks with broken jaw gives him more JS.

    has DPP – FWD/DEF nice

    only $254k

      Nate · 03/04/2017 at 18:57

      Thanks mate!!! That's awesome

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 20:32

        Awkward price…………..

Saundo · 03/04/2017 at 15:23

Mcarthy I see a huge stain in my jocks. I am considering trading Zac Jones down to Otten or Newman, which would leave me about 450k to spend on a forward? Any suggestions?

    Anthony · 03/04/2017 at 16:03

    Higgins!

    Burnmen · 03/04/2017 at 16:40

    People are now trading Zac Jones? This is madness, why bother with him to begin with?

THE NANK · 03/04/2017 at 15:23

Is it worth going Mcarthy to WHE for first trade of the year?

    SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 15:26

    Ummmmm HELL YEAH!!!

      INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 15:31

      If you don't have WHE I think that trade is mandatory. CamMac could actually lose money

    Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:44

    i think that is a no-brainer

    neil DEMONS DELIGHT · 03/04/2017 at 17:33

    tough one that macca could score massive but I think WHE by a whisker a bloody big whisker

Captain Risky · 03/04/2017 at 15:28

Jones & Pruess survive the MRP review with a fine. Suspensions to Thompson 1, Lewis 3 and Hogan 2.

Hopefully Pruess can back up last weeks perfomance..

    Steeeve · 03/04/2017 at 15:53

    Every year I pick a ruckman who could make me money, every year the wrong one. Preuss, please change my fortunes! Would love him to fatten up then turn into Strnadica for a neat profit.

      jason · 04/04/2017 at 13:38

      Pruess's fortunes rest on Goldstien's fitness.

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 15:57

    Think Preuss can consider himself lucky. But $1,000 fine would actually mean something to him. Lewis & Hogan are massive out for Melbourne

      hedski · 03/04/2017 at 20:45

      Yep go cats.

    smote · 03/04/2017 at 16:49

    Wow…MRP made a bit of a statement there with the off the ball sniping by Lewis and Hogan. Play hard but fair fellas!

      neil demons delight · 03/04/2017 at 17:28

      Hogans a love tap fine only Lewis worse hope they are consistent

Boltons Blues · 03/04/2017 at 15:34

Bowes to WHE via Pickett DPP this week for me.

Witts sitting at R3 is killing me, i put him there for cash generation/Sandilands back up but hate seeing 100 points sitting on the pine.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:46

    Should've had the FWD/Ruck/loophole swing of darcy Cameron/Strndica so you can move them round with Nank.

    Sandi is injury prone and no 100% guarantees that Witts will be no.1 ruck all year leaves you open for sudden ruck donut syndrome.

      FEARTHEBEARD · 04/04/2017 at 10:33

      Same boat except I have Gawn, Sandi, Witts lol

Plums for days · 03/04/2017 at 15:36

Is there any rookie mids that are on the bubble and worth looking at this week? I have other trade plans this week but if there's any worth seriously considering it might throw a spanner in the works of said plans!

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 15:53

    Barett Pickett & Parfit are all on the bubble. But you could pick them all up for about the same price next week. None of them look destined to make much coin

      Plums for days · 03/04/2017 at 20:12

      Yeah I've got all of them. Also started with Hall from GC – What was I thinking?? Just turned him into the majesticness of one Oliver Wines (I think Higgo might be on to something there)… Still top 5% so I'm backing this sideways one in as one that needs to happen.

Whitey · 03/04/2017 at 15:42

Yo guys,
making my first set of trades and i'm thinking ryder (maybe roughy) for WHE and hibberd or EVW (depending on selection) for caleb marchbank.
cash generating trades and i will have 90+k in the bank, what are your thoughts

    Luke · 03/04/2017 at 16:27

    Roughead breakeven this week 58. Should Nail that. Ryder breakeven 81. I'd Trade Ryder to WHE and Bring in Marchbank for a non scoring rookie such as EVW

      NEIL DEMONS DELIGHT · 03/04/2017 at 17:18

      Problem with that Luke is Roughy looks like a slow slow burner better JS THAN MOST like Taranto but I fancy a Murphy or beams or oliver who can score big tons and good JS CHEERS

GC suck · 03/04/2017 at 15:48

What to do woth tom lynch?? Suns look destined for a horrible year and i seem to have lost faith in him.. considering going
Lynch and smith(melb)
To
Whe and newman and nank the cash for furtjer rookie carnage

Currently have hibberd, mountford, smith not playing but need to re structure to make changes as i only have 50k and none of the expensive rooks

Team is
Doch laird adams touhy hampton otten stewart smith
Danger jpk treloar selwood fyfe beams spp barrett mountfors hibberd miles
Martin sandi preuss
Dahl lynch nank roughy butler pickett eddy parfitt
56.2k

Suggestion community

    J.K · 03/04/2017 at 16:45

    GC were a disgrace last year and Lynch had a solid year. Although they are struggling they will surely be better this year than last year you'd think? As a Lynch owner I am holding. He has only had one bad one after all. Hold those premos!

    Personally I would favour Roughie to WHE over Lynch, but obv just my opinion.

      Burnmen · 03/04/2017 at 16:47

      Agree

      GC suck · 03/04/2017 at 18:31

      Looking at my team what would you advise??? Csn go smith to hannan/houston via dpp but dont like there js
      Cant get whe in one trade unless i change structure
      Decisons decisons
      Still have faith in my premium selections other than lynch but thay could be a bit kneee jerk

        J.K · 04/04/2017 at 09:15

        Smith to Houston via DPP, Rough to WHE.

        whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 12:08

        Can you afford Marchbank and WHE if you trade Roughy and Smith?

        Worth consideration.

Anthony · 03/04/2017 at 16:01

JOM playing GC this week…..will be pumped for a big game and knows the ground well – HOLD.

Tet · 03/04/2017 at 16:02

Is it worth the trade to go from a non-playin rookie such as Aaron black or Wigg to Parfitt? It's purely for cash generation but I'm not sold on parfitt's cash generating abilities so would it be a waste?

    Burnmen · 03/04/2017 at 16:42

    Don't tell me you have Aaron Black and Wigg………………..

      Tet · 03/04/2017 at 22:22

      maybe………yes

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:05

        Maybe not Parfitt, but other rookies with good JS…..for sure.

The BONT · 03/04/2017 at 16:09

Downgrade Roughy to Nank or WHE

    Saintsational · 03/04/2017 at 16:54

    Definitely Nank, looking like a keeper at this stage

    Reiwoldting · 03/04/2017 at 17:03

    If Nank is keeper then Nank. Is he top 2 ruck or top 6 forward? Otherwise WHE for cash. But can you trade anyone other than rough for that?

      Jib_Jib · 03/04/2017 at 18:18

      I think he could be a top 6-8 fwd, not a top 2 ruck (prob top 4).

Luke · 03/04/2017 at 16:15

Hey guys and gals, rapt with where im sitting at the moment. Overall rank: 855 List of SQUAD with AVERAGES so far.
DEF: Docherty 107.5, Otten 76.5, McGrath 69.5, Stewart 58.5, Hampton 57, Jake Kelly 33 (Smith – loophole, Hibberd 23)
MID: Danger 139, Martin 138.5, Wines 135, Heppell 130, T Mitchell 117, Fyfe 112.5, J. Kelly 112.5, Beams 105.5 (Powell- Pepper 84, Barrett 48, Parfitt 40)
RUC: Gawn 119.5, Witts 90.5 (Preuss 77.5)
FWD: JJ Kennedy 128, Higgins 120.5, Nankervis 119, Hogan 93.5, Steele 89, Taranto 59.5 (Houston 76.5, Eddy 53)

Wondering what trades I should do this week? $75,000 in the bank. I could probably hold and not trade. but thinking its Vital to get Will Hoskin-Elliot (average 104) in and possibly Marchbank (average: 89.5) also. any feedback or opinions would be Greatly appreciated Community!

    The Saltshaker · 03/04/2017 at 17:44

    id get march for your structure and taranto > whe, dont think hogan will avg 93 for season

    Congrats on your position, mate in my league 651st overall

      Luke · 03/04/2017 at 18:08

      Thanks Dude. Hogan rubbed out for 2 weeks suspension but a breakeven of 55. I Could Swing Parfitt with Taranto and leave Taranto on the mid bench to make some cash. What about moving on Hogan instead of Taranto? Both will make cash then Jake Kelly to Marchbank?

        Finnius123 · 04/04/2017 at 11:30

        I would trade Hogan for WHE and move kelly to Marchbank. That will make you some dosh and hogan is out for two weeks so it is the right time to move him if you are going to.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 20:08

    2 Weeks without Hogan maybe ditch him for WHE.

    Trade worst rookie from backline for marchbank after looking at the teams this week.

    Trade up a defender to Laird/Adams/Loyd ASAP sometime after round 3 with cash and a fattened defensive rookie.

    Although your ruck is in danger if Preuss and Witts are dropped at some point. No swing to move Nankervis back into ruck.

    Like the team though.

carlo · 03/04/2017 at 16:21

when do prices change for players?

    adam · 03/04/2017 at 16:39

    once they've played 3 games

    Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:41

    after this week. So this is last week to get players at their starting price, if this is their 3rd game.

    Neverweaken · 03/04/2017 at 16:49

    After round 3. At the moment you can see their expected increases. Eg otten +70k etc

    Luke · 03/04/2017 at 17:03

    next week. Rolling 3 week average

Whitey · 03/04/2017 at 16:29

Hi guys quick question regarding a simple player loophole… would i get the highest scoring player or the lowest scoring player put down as emergency?

    Derek · 03/04/2017 at 16:41

    you get the lowest scoring E only on the same line.

    Neverweaken · 03/04/2017 at 16:48

    I think it's the lowest scoring emergency in that position

Neverweaken · 03/04/2017 at 16:47

Is Higgins a top 6 forward?
Thinking of trading Caddy to Higgins Rough to WHE.
Or Caddy to WHE and don't worry about Higgins. Feel Caddy will be an 80 to 90 player after watching him. Same with Rough but Rough started cheaper.
Will only trade in Higgins if community think he is the real deal. Otherwise can swing Nank forward and run Witts on the ground. WHE is just for the cash.

    Northernsoul74 · 03/04/2017 at 19:29

    If he stays fit I reckon Higgins is. Playing as a pure midfielder.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 20:00

    Caddy>WHE

    Run Nank up forward. Witts on Ground. Work out top forwards later. Early bolters OFTEN FAIL.

The_Black_Mamba · 03/04/2017 at 16:51

Thoughts on getting Clayton Oliver into the side? I have 180k in the bank and can afford to upgrade a rookie or perhaps even JOM. Is oliver the real deal?

    neil Demons Delight · 03/04/2017 at 17:07

    Your spot on TBM I had him all JLT AS A REAL BREAKOUT KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS KID and going to be anything..What I did was to cull ROUGHY hes good but Olivers much better Get him in you wont regret it .Not so rapt in WHE but he will make coin and Bucks IF HE LASTS MUCH LONGER loves him.. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big ex pie is soon coaching

      The_Black_Mamba · 03/04/2017 at 17:11

      Perhaps the Zach Merrett of 2017.

        Jib_Jib · 03/04/2017 at 17:55

        The Zach Merrett of 2017 is still Zach Merrett. Somehow still under 5% ownership.

    The mongrel punt · 03/04/2017 at 17:11

    I'm wondering the same thing. He looks like he's gonna be ok this year

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 17:19

    I think if you started with Oliver then nicely done. But I'm not convinced he can become a top 10 mid. He's going to hit the wall at some point. So I think if you trade him in you'll need to trade him out eventually. So the question is, is 2 trades worth it. I think you'll end up getting a very similar amount of cash gen from JOM. So I can't justify this trade whatsoever

      whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 19:58

      Exactly.

      You either have the balls to start with him and give it a shot, resulting in only one trade to get rid of him if he fails.

Neil demons delight · 03/04/2017 at 16:58

couldn't be any tougher to start the year off. I play the great one in TRIGS league. JOCK please take it easy I will learn plenty anyway Good luck JOCK and to all cheers

Reiwoldting · 03/04/2017 at 16:58

Thinking Hanners to Smurph this week.

Reiwoldting · 03/04/2017 at 17:01

Actually Smurph or Oliver?

The mongrel punt · 03/04/2017 at 17:09

Thoughts. I think Oliver can match M.Crouch for scoring. I'm thinking of trading out crouch for Oliver. Banking the 120k. Giving me 270k in the bank. Next week or two I can then upgrade Sandilands to Gawn. Pretty happy with Witt's at R2. Nank at F4.

    Jib_Jib · 03/04/2017 at 18:14

    Unless you think that Oliver is a top 10 mid, season long keeper, I think it's a bad move. You'd be better off raising the money through your rookies. Otherwise you'll burn 2 trades for $120k. Bad business IMO.

      The mongrel punt · 03/04/2017 at 19:53

      Cheers jib Normally I'd agree with you but I reckon this year is different
      . It's actually 120k plus the expected price jump. I think he'll finish up at about 510k. So 250k profit.
      With rookie cash cows hard to find this gives me the luxury of locking in Gawn next week and earning all his big SC points now instead of in 8 weeks. Can Oliver go Top 10? Dunno. Guess that's the question

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 20:21

        Even if not top 10 you'd have to be content for him to be your M8 if you trade him in.

        Jib_Jib · 04/04/2017 at 01:14

        Yeah I suppose I didn't think about the money Oliver would make, still would cost you another trade if you wanted to use it.

        I was also very tempted to go for Oliver but I'm not prepared to spend another trade on him down the line, which is the main thing holding me back. Also he's still too inexperienced for me. I know he's on fire right now but I don't think he can maintain it or finish anywhere near the top 10 mids, if fact he'll be doing well to get top 20 IMO.

    Northernsoul74 · 03/04/2017 at 19:28

    You must be going great guns if that's your biggest challenge.

Dezz · 03/04/2017 at 17:18

Can we trust Witts at r2? Will be the key decision for an aggressive trade.

    Jib_Jib · 03/04/2017 at 18:16

    I don't think he's going to set the world on fire with his scores but he's been more than serviceable. If you've started with him at R2 you may as well keep the faith. He's not going to lose his spot and I don't see GC splitting the ruck role anytime soon.

wd4 · 03/04/2017 at 17:19

So many people wasting trades based off 2 weeks lmao

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:49

    Yep should be reserved for injuries and rookie corrections.

Breust Juice · 03/04/2017 at 17:28

Lads I don't have the cash to straight swap WHE with a rook and would have to trade the rough to get him in. Very unsure as cash generation is tough this year. My heart could be getting in the way as a Hawks and rough fan. Is this a valid trade?

    Breust Juice · 03/04/2017 at 17:29

    Is WHE a must have?

      Trader · 03/04/2017 at 17:33

      I think he is.

    Nick · 03/04/2017 at 20:51

    I'm thinking that same trade. Roughy isn't going to be a top 6 forward by years end. He will make you between 50k-100k at most. While WHE looks like he could make a lot more than that. Plus you get more cash for upgrade later on.

TheFlogs · 03/04/2017 at 18:06

Fellas I took the risk on Ablett originally I wanted Merrett which has backfired a bit do I straight swap them or keep gaz hoping he can find some form from 5 years ago

    The Saltshaker · 03/04/2017 at 18:09

    looks disinterested up fwd hopefully eade puts him back on the ball/more mid

    Tyruddanaut · 03/04/2017 at 18:28

    Swap him for hanners the gun

      Sammi · 04/04/2017 at 09:58

      Your are kidding. Wishful thinking. The Bont for sure. Get Hanners when he is near $500.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 19:53

    Had a limited preseason, way too expensive considering previous years scoring and games missed. Pity the fool.

    I'll grab him for 500K after byes if he's coming good.

      Abel · 03/04/2017 at 20:51

      Great response. Question well answered. Tool

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:04

        Thanks mate

    Abel · 03/04/2017 at 20:51

    Move him on mate.

The Saltshaker · 03/04/2017 at 18:08

*Hartlett

Luke · 03/04/2017 at 18:16

Marchbank and WHE both look so young. That worries me lol. Marchbank looks like a 17 year old

    Big Red · 03/04/2017 at 19:02

    Never judge a book by its cover mate

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 19:52

    They are young.

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 21:56

    Both were top 10 picks who didn't get opportunities so they have the talent

John · 03/04/2017 at 18:20

Trade Treloar to Wines or Hold ??

    Tyruddanaut · 03/04/2017 at 18:28

    I think hold… it's a waste of a trade

    Big Red · 03/04/2017 at 19:01

    Definitely hold

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 19:21

    Laughable.

    Northernsoul74 · 03/04/2017 at 19:25

    Definitely trade him to wines or anyone.

      meph · 03/04/2017 at 19:56

      Surely hold. Its not like Treloar is spudding up. He is getting 30 touches and averaging 100. His DE improves so does his scoring.

        Northernsoul74 · 03/04/2017 at 20:07

        I was joking, it's quite obviously a stupid trade.

    Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 16:13

    Depends on whether you need the$ for another trade
    Treloar has not been under performing for his price and the coach is on the way out. He will be dropping in value so to trade him for a underpriced premium in a team on the rise has merits. If you did well with team selection and still have plenty of trades it could pay off for you.

      whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:02

      Coach is on the way out will affect Treloar you reckon. Haha

      35 touches and 33 touches in the first two weeks. You're looking at SC numbers too much and not reality.

      #whatyousmokin.

Keenbutclueless · 03/04/2017 at 18:26

I really don't think you need to trade this week. I think you are in good shape. Next week, maybe Hibberd for Newman. But if Hibberd named this week I wouldn't even do that. If Pickett or Parfitt get dropped, then do it. It only takes one good week and they go from slow burn to fast burn. Scores from Rd 1 only stay in one week, so it's actually better to get the bigger scores in Rounds 2 and 3. Houston is better than Butler on that score and you already have him

Tyruddanaut · 03/04/2017 at 18:27

Bonts or Nank for Hanners getting the can? I think Bonts will be 2nd best right behind the absolute gun who is big old Gary Albert scoring high as expected

Mickey P · 03/04/2017 at 18:31

So I have had a good start, currently ranked inside top 1,000, but there are two players I desperately wanted pre-season but could not squeeze in, being Mark Murphy and Clayton Oliver who are both tearing it up and I soooooo wish I had one or both.

Question therefore is, do I trade Treloar out and make some cash to get one as Treloar has not really performed. Cant see any other options to trade out (IMO) as rest of midfield is Danger, Titch, Fyfe, Josh Kelly, Bont, Omeara and Beams who are all performing well.

Or do I let Murph and Oliver sail off into the sunset

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 18:49

    They are cheaper players yet you couldn't squeeze them in? You're chasing.

      Mickey P · 03/04/2017 at 18:56

      I went heavy in mids as you can see, originally had Oliver in, but dropped Gawn, went cheaper in rucks and boosted the mids taking Oliver to Titch

        whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 20:25

        Trading Treloar out just seems stupid.

          Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 16:18

          But in fact it could generate $$$$ and more points
          If your opposition trades and you don't ………… could leave you behind the eight ball.
          Need to secure value this round, overall team value should increase thats the aim.

    Abel · 03/04/2017 at 20:54

    Hold and look for options in other lines

Nick · 03/04/2017 at 18:32

I'm thinking Roughhead to WHE as Roughead won't be a top 8 forward by years end. Saves me cash. The other one is O'Meara was thinking of upgrading to Murphy or the other option is C Oliver thoughts everyone?

    Boltons Blues · 03/04/2017 at 20:30

    Hold roughy, had a year off, still finding form.
    Hold JOM, getting the ball, just to many handballs

      Nick · 03/04/2017 at 20:43

      Won't be holding Roughy I need to get WHE in and Roughy won't be top 6 forward. I could swap either Pickett or Parfitt. Hmm interesting times ahead. Maybe keep JOM though. It's tempting to get in Murphy or Oliver though.

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 21:55

    Murphy is not a must have, for that price you'd be expecting them to average 100+. JOM did just have 36 touches so I'm not sure why you're not happy with that

      Swans2012 · 03/04/2017 at 22:18

      Agree joms 90 odd a great prrformance for mine

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:54

    Saves you cash? Uses your trades. Pros and cons.

Jabba07 · 03/04/2017 at 18:44

I have Zac Jones, Roughie amd Jack Steele as my possible problems. Want WHE and doubts about Roughie, but cannot afford a cheap rookie swap to WHE. Inclined to keep Steele as his minutes may increase now that Stevens is out.

Options:

1. Roughie to WHE straight downgrade.
2. Zac Jones to McGrath, Parfitt/Pickett to WHE.

Or do I just not board the WHE train?

    Andy · 03/04/2017 at 18:49

    I'm in the same situation but learnt a lesson from last few years. Don't trade unless you absolutely have too !

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 21:53

    Downgrade Z.Jones, he isn't proven. Roughie has averaged 90+ in times past

      whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:58

      He may have been that early round and JLT trap. We will see in a couple more rounds I guess.

Derek · 03/04/2017 at 18:58

Great looking team

Nothing to do this week

Vicki · 03/04/2017 at 18:59

Thoughts on trading Hanners to Heppell and Pickett to WHE. To do the trades I can only do a trade from Hanners to a player priced at Heppell or below as I only have $500 in the kitty.
Thoughts please.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 20:26

    I'm not a huge fan of it but sometimes bold moves are required.

    Abel · 03/04/2017 at 20:55

    I like it.

ChrisK · 03/04/2017 at 18:59

Its been a smooth start to the year for me apart from the rookies. My biggest dilemma this week is whether to start Otten or Hampton on the ground. I know I will get 60-70 for Hampton, while Otten might get 100 or may get 30.

I didn't watch the Crows v Hawks game, Otten scored well. Did he have a change of roll? I see he had a couple of inside 50's and kicked a goal
Thoughts?

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 19:35

    It's been two games. You cannot know whether you will get 60-70 for Hampton, or 30-100 for Otten based on that information.

      meph · 03/04/2017 at 19:54

      He played alot up forward when Jenkins went down which is obviously a change of role. He also pinch hit in the ruck but that wasnt for long from memory. I dont think he will play up forward this week unless Jenkins doesnt get up and even then they may bring someone else in for the FWD/Ruck role.

        derek · 03/04/2017 at 20:57

        he rucked for about 10 mins in the last term when the game was on the line and set up two goals with some really nice play. Scored very big in that 10 mins. Doubt he will have that role again.

        plus i think he was rucking against Tyrone…….. why did the hawks get him?

          Randomcliche · 04/04/2017 at 01:00

          And I still reckon lakey would be running around better than his replacement, Mr Frawley. Just wish they'd thrown the 10 year check at buddy…wouldn't be stuck in this situation. Lake Cheap plus buddy expensive = better team…

          ChrisK · 04/04/2017 at 16:05

          Thanks good info

Swannie · 03/04/2017 at 19:00

A good site to check break evens, price changes etc is http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pu-west-coast-… as can you see this will show Yeo. It's like as Bible for me ha ha. Traded out Hogan for Yeo – A Hall for Heppell thoughts please

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:43

    Make or break kinda moves. Not a big fan.

BFG6 · 03/04/2017 at 19:01

What do I do with Ablett? Looks disinterested and gonna bleed cash. Thinking of trading to Murphy or Heppell. Thoughts?

    meph · 03/04/2017 at 19:58

    I think he has to go. I wouldnt swap for murphy though, doubt he will finish top 10 mids. Heppell might though.

    derek · 03/04/2017 at 20:54

    is he injured?

    if not you HOLD

Rick · 03/04/2017 at 19:32

The whole aim is to fill your team with premos. The premos you currently have were FREE at the start of the comp. Why would you trade a premo for a premo? Total waste of a trade. Also, why would you trade a premo for a mid-pricer? You've actually gone BACKWARDS. Hannebery, for example, is just ONE player out of 22. He's never going to be your captain so just carry him for the season. One below-average player will not blow your season. He'll end up averaging around 100 anyway, don't worry.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 19:36

    It's end of round two madness. Literally ruins teams for the season.

    Last year people were trading out Josh Kennedy (Swans)

      meph · 03/04/2017 at 19:50

      100 average isnt enough in the midfield these days. I have traded hanners but I went sideways to a keeper. He isnt right, he is not the hanners i have banked on previously its a brutal game he has to go.

        derek · 03/04/2017 at 20:50

        a few years ago i started with Cotchin in my team (yeah he was SC relevent once). He started poor, had a poor middle and didn't finish real strong either…. but he didn't miss a game and averaged a bit over 100, had alot of 80's and 90's. i remember there were premiums going down all over the place. I held onto him and finished top 100.

        i think it was the same year i started with dangerfield. he started the year with 3 sub 100 and then had 200. he played 22 games and averaged a tick over 100 as well.

        there is alot to be said for guys that score ok but don't miss games

      Pman · 03/04/2017 at 19:54

      Correct. I'm not happy with the output of Heath Shaw and Callan Ward thus far but in no way are considering a sideways trade after Rd 2. The only sideways trade I'd be considering is a corrective rookie trade for cash generation and/or JS. The only trade I'm tossing up this week is Taranto to WHE but am thinking Taranto did enough on the weekend with 75 and even though I'm a Pies supporter I think the Swans will smash us on Friday night and WHE will have a quiet one. Back your Guns I say as form is temporary and class is permanent and they will come good.

        INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 21:10

        Significant wisdom from Rick & Pman. Take note

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/04/2017 at 21:40

        The only reason Shaw scored so low this week as he was sitting in a recliner putting his feet up in the GC forward line.
        Ball hardly got past the middle all game.
        GWS owned it.
        Hard to get the pill if it spends 90% of the time in GWS fwd line. Same goes for Lynch.

          Randomcliche2 · 04/04/2017 at 01:07

          Bahaha. BYO deck chair next time Heater.

          INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 09:34

          This was exactly the reason I didn't pick Shaw. They are going to dominate poor teams & the ball won't be down there for Shaw to score well. I picked Simmo instead who also deposited a significant & unexpected Turd. Can't win in this caper

    derek · 03/04/2017 at 20:53

    good point Rick. if he averages 100 instead of 110, you miss 200pts. so what.

    i lost nearly that many by having Eddy as C on the weekend.

    same old…. save your trades you will need them at the end of the year blah blah blah….. boring stuff…

Dean · 03/04/2017 at 19:57

Trade out Eddy or Roughy for WHE? Have all the other rookies and DPP moves weaken my forward line.Thanks

    Northernsoul74 · 03/04/2017 at 20:09

    Eddy is on the bubble, if he plays this week he makes you cash.

      Nick · 03/04/2017 at 20:38

      I'm doing roughy to WHE as Roughy won't be a top 6 forward and will only make you 50k or something. Save money as well for upgrades.

Pete · 03/04/2017 at 20:15

Have enough cash to get WHE in my side. Who do I trade out of Pickett or Parfitt ?

    Westy · 03/04/2017 at 20:55

    Parfitt. There are other Cats to come back in. Pickett is more likely to get more games in the season.

SC17 · 03/04/2017 at 20:23

I have 90K in the bank.
I am thinking of doing Roughead to Higgins and Taranto to WHE.
Thoughts?

jpb · 03/04/2017 at 20:24

Can you reverse a trade before the next round starts or am I stuck with a rookie mistake ? Got rid of T Lynch for WHE , I dont feel that Gold Coast can get the ball enough for him to score well . I have $322k in the bank now , 28 trades leftt. Previous owner of the Roo as well, so had traded him for Buddy.

    Don't Blush Baby · 03/04/2017 at 20:27

    Yeah mate, look to left on your team where it says reverse trades, click

      jpb · 03/04/2017 at 20:34

      Thanks DBB

Nick · 03/04/2017 at 20:48

Steele to WHE for sure this week that would be it.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:54

    Why?

    Thomas · 04/04/2017 at 22:03

    Why would you trade steele? Steven being out only improves his scoring potential

Tommo09 · 03/04/2017 at 21:08

Anyone else think that Gaz might respond mightily this week and pump out a massive score?
I don't have have him but if I did I would be putting the VC on someone and the C on Gaz as a backup.
I love Gaz and don't think his competitiveness will let him continue to play poorly

Thoughts?

    INPieman · 03/04/2017 at 21:19

    I am an owner. I hope the criticism he's copping this week fires him up. I think he went to that game knowing they couldn't win & put the cue in the rack. Let's see how a champion can respond. It will be very interesting

      Tommo09 · 03/04/2017 at 21:20

      He is an absolute legend of the game. He should respond. I hope

    derek · 03/04/2017 at 22:07

    i think he does ok against the hawks

TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/04/2017 at 21:15

Derek this may you feel a bit better.
Just found out the phantom himself looped Eddy to get Dangers score, was busy and finished with Eddy as the captain for the week.
Happens to the best

    Keenbutclueless · 03/04/2017 at 21:23

    or have we uncovered the Phantom's true identity? Derek, is that you?

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/04/2017 at 21:28

      Like it
      Maybe the cat is out if the bag. …. meow

        SCaddict · 03/04/2017 at 21:41

        You might be on to something boys.

    derek · 03/04/2017 at 22:07

    you know when you have that moment….. had just got home and had to get my son's science assignment finished (or started) and had a quick look at my phone at fanfooty to see the scores and saw this little white vest next to Eddy's name………. 4 mins into the game…… hard to concentrate on the science of Howard Florey then i can tell you…..

      Kim · 04/04/2017 at 16:39

      That's why you have someone in your team like deluca from freo who actually won't play all season. Sorry but no sympothy for those who made eddy capt stupid decision you need to plan ahead. Stuff like that if going for 50k will cost you with s mistake like that, check the draw before season starts which is why I went deluca not strandica as I can use him mid or fwd to loop rookies as wel as capt loop, 2 way win.

deleted8434669 · 03/04/2017 at 21:41

I know everyone is saying keep Hanners, but I'm going against the grain and going to trade.

Hanners to Pendles or Tom Mitchell?

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 21:43

    Like Titch can be compared with Pendles. Pendlebury worth that extra cash every day of the week.

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 09:45

    If your going to trade Hanners I can validate Danger or Pendles as the only options worthy of that

      Victor · 04/04/2017 at 10:03

      And Bontempelli.

jakem1717 · 03/04/2017 at 21:42

Hey guys I need some advice please!!
Thinking of trading out O'Meara & Joel Smith for Marchbank and Will Hoskin-Elliott (using some rookie swings)

I feel like the gain in these two players makes up for the potential loss of O'meara even if he does average around 95-100 for the rest of the season. What do you think??

    Swans2012 · 03/04/2017 at 22:19

    No, Jom just had 36 touches and a 90 odd, that is exactly why you picked him. Don't ruin your structure to chase the car, it is tempting though

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:57

    Get them some other way.

    Kim · 04/04/2017 at 16:45

    I would swap roughy for WHE if you have him not omeara he is better every round as long as he doesn't get injured should score 90+ each week esp if he gets his kicking boots on a gets a goal or 2 has 0.3 in first game could have easily scored 90+ if he kicked 2 goals. WHE I don't see as a must have his highest av is 67 other seasons it's been sub 50 don't think he can keep it up, but if u can't get him this week ship will have sailed. I believe omeara will out score WHE from here on out.

pete · 03/04/2017 at 21:45

so torn what to do with ablett

    Sauce · 03/04/2017 at 22:21

    Trade him out

    Danners · 03/04/2017 at 22:52

    Hold, you picked him for a reason

Goose · 03/04/2017 at 21:47

Thoughts on Pickett to Butler and Roughy down to Hoskin-Elliot to free up some bank for later? Or should I go Taranto to Hoskin-Elliot or neither and save the trade? Appreciate any thoughts.

    Goose · 03/04/2017 at 21:48

    Parfitt to Butler is also an option

    derek · 03/04/2017 at 21:59

    i think we need a special thread just for people to ask if they should trade <insert Roughead or Taranto> to WHE.

Danners · 03/04/2017 at 21:52

Great writeup Carlos! It seems the Supercoach gods are dangling a big piece of bait in Oliver at the moment. Lewis banned, 36 disposals in his last game, I don't think he has dropped under 100 in the JLT or actual season either.
I was planning ($100k in bank before hand)
Roughead to Nankervis
J.Smith to WHE (via DPP)
but I am now tempted by
Swallow to Oliver for quick cash generation
Have I lost my mind? Thoughts?

    Countdown · 03/04/2017 at 22:09

    How do you do the JSmith to WHE via DPP

      Danners · 03/04/2017 at 22:44

      Smith swings with Hibberd to MID, then Parfitt to MID and there is a spot in the forward line

        Blaknight · 04/04/2017 at 13:10

        Still don't see how you can do it.

          Crowmagnon · 04/04/2017 at 16:51

          When you hit the trade button on smith the letter s appears next to players you can sub into the traded out position.
          So you then hit the s next to hibberd. This will move him to defence.
          Then the s will appear next to parfitt, hit it and he goes to mid.
          Welcome my team WHE.

    Sauce · 03/04/2017 at 22:10

    I reckon the first option is better, Nank will generate cash and so will swallow and oliver has a great chance of hitting a wall

    TBone · 03/04/2017 at 22:12

    Roughy to Nank and J. Smith to WHE for sure. They will continue to perform and may lift up to price where straight swap to premium is on the cards

    Swans2012 · 03/04/2017 at 22:14

    Not sure on the swallow sideways move, only if you think oliver is a keeper. If it's for cash then I think they'll both make about the same, if anything swallow more from the lower base…..

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/04/2017 at 22:16

    Danners definitely two of the form players at the moment but can they keep it up?
    I think roughy hasn't been that bad and is improving every week, will make his be and has GC this week so could dine out
    Nank like the tiges haven't played a top 8 side but looks really good at the moment, if you didn't start him is he a keeper?
    Will probably make you $150k so if you didn't start him, and don't see him as a keeper is he worth trading in for $150k? $500k would put him around 95 avg.

    Oliver boy this kid can play – see ball get ball loving the silver service from big maxy.
    He again hasn't play a really good midfield, hawks r easy enough to score against look at Heppell, zerrett and Sloane and the blues well they do have curnow who can shut down a player and played on oliver for about 20mins but that is about it
    Big test for him this week up against the cats.
    Is he a keeper or a stepping stone? Will make you quick cash but cost you two trades if not a keeper maybe an m9
    Unsure on oliver but as didn't start nank think i will have to pass
    IMHO

      Danners · 03/04/2017 at 22:51

      You raise some good points there Trigger. I suppose the thing that got me was that he got dominated in the hitouts and managed to get 20 touches and scaled up 30 points to 120 odd. I think his HTA ratio is as high as Gawn at the moment as well and he gives me ruck cover.
      Speaking of Gawn, he spoke pretty highly of Oliver as well saying that Oliver was quickly becoming his first option. As much as I would like him, I think there is more cash generation with WHE. Just wanted to see what people thoughts on him though, be interesting to hear what is said on the podcast tomorrow night.

        John James · 03/04/2017 at 23:33

        Had Oliver as my M6 from the start,even before everyone started talking about him,saw value there,hope he ends up as my M8. As far as getting him now I would only be looking at him as either a upgrade,getting rid of Pickett for example or a downgrade,Hannebery anyone ?

BeaglieBoyy · 03/04/2017 at 21:59

serious question guys…..Preuss or Sandilands on the field this week?

    Sauce · 03/04/2017 at 22:12

    I'm thinking Sandi, because we don't know how Preuss is going o go up against a decent ruckman in Mumy

      Hash · 03/04/2017 at 22:17

      Sandi based on his record, if he's not injured he'll generally score well, especially now third man up is banned.

Jack · 03/04/2017 at 22:00

Is Taylor Adams a must-have? Went with Laird, Shaw, Doc, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, Stewart and Hibberd.

    Sauce · 03/04/2017 at 22:14

    I'd trade Adams in definately, most likely for shaw

      Kyle · 04/04/2017 at 00:49

      Horrible trade…shaws a keeper and 1 bad game doesnt mean he gets traded out

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:56

    First defensive upgrade target?

    Randomcliche2 · 04/04/2017 at 01:18

    Bloody likely to be….but so is shaw…..you need at least 6 of the buggers in defence, go find 2 more to go with ones you've already bought!

Tony · 03/04/2017 at 22:03

Got a few issues in the squad but tossing up which ones to take care of. Currently have Bowes but wanting to trade him up to WHE, only problem is I have only $10,000 sitting in the kitty. Options are either, 1. Hampton to Otten and Bowes to WHE, 2. Petracca (my F3) to WHE, use leftover $ to upgrade Roughy to Higgins and next week replace Bowes with cash cow. Thoughts?

    Sauce · 03/04/2017 at 22:16

    Option 2 WHE and Higgins will generate some huge cash with decent scores this week

      whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:49

      Huge cash but are Higgins and WHE keepers?

      Two trades a piece. 4 trades to get them both and their bit of profit.

        TBone · 03/04/2017 at 23:03

        I reckon Higgins might be a keeper… as long as he doesnt get injured. WHE would need to be upgraded at some point in time. Should I try bringing in Nank instead? or save trades just for rookies and use them as cash cows and sell on?

          whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:09

          Tis a tough year. Higgins could be a keeper that is true.

          So could nank, not to mention a possible ruck backup.

            TBone · 03/04/2017 at 23:16

            Good point, thats the risk of having Sandy as R2, never know when he'll get injured. I think WHE is a must have at this point. but other than higgins or nank i only trust the top 6 forwards haha

          Derek · 03/04/2017 at 23:34

          You said it……. as long as he doesn't get injured…..

            TBone · 03/04/2017 at 23:39

            Yeah thats always the risk… but its better than being stuck with Bowes scoring me donuts week in week out haha

Roi · 03/04/2017 at 22:03

Trying to find a spot for WHE in my team.

FWD Is Buddy, Dahl, Macrae, taranto, Butler, parfitt with pickett and eddy on the bench.

Haven't got enough to go 123k rookie to WHE and don't want to do that either as all my players are on the bubble.

Main idea is taranto to WHE but is it really worth It. I'm not sure if WHE will continue to play like this once Elliot and greenwood are back in the side, meaning his position will be shuffled around.
Thanks heaps

    Sauce · 03/04/2017 at 22:18

    I would 100% get WHE in for Taranto because it offers more reliability and cash generation plus Elliots injury is pretty long term and no chance of greenwood taking WHE's spot

Sauce · 03/04/2017 at 22:07

Should i trade out Steele for Nank? PLEASE HELP

    TBone · 03/04/2017 at 22:31

    No, with Steven out Steele will be feautring more in the midfield. Hang onto Steele, only trade once he goes up to point where you can switch for premo mate

Hash · 03/04/2017 at 22:14

Stuffed up at the start because i didn't know which rookie to commit to and went with smedts based on job security.
Smedts for WHE, or shuffle pickett forward, hibberd into the midfield and get marchbank in the backline?

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:47

    Marchbank is looking like a must have in defense imo, then again you not starting with him is going to cost two trades.

    Suddenly not so must have.

andy_89 · 03/04/2017 at 22:18

Have J Smith and Cam McCarthy who I will need to trade at some point. Haven't used any trades and have 130k in the kitty

For C McCarthy thinking of trading in WHE or is Butler just as good given the starting price discrepancy. Do not have Houston either although JS shaky with Pittard returning soon I gather . Other rooks are Simpkin, Eddy, Tarantino, Parfitt, Pickett

For J Smith, thinking of trading in Otten/McGrath or should I wait until Newman is on the bubble. Other defensive rooks are Marchbank, Hampton, Hibberd, Stewart

Thoughts Would be greatly appreciated

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:45

    Maybe McCarthy and Simpkin to WHE and Butler?

John James · 03/04/2017 at 22:22

Will Murphy end up as a keeper,that's what I'm asking myself because at his price and how much he should go up in price,if he does,now would be a good time to get him.or do we just stay clear of this type,he is the same price as Beams.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:44

    Doubtful he will be a keeper. So it will cost you two trades one to get him in, and one more out.

    This is why 400K+ mid pricers are often a very bad choice, unless starting with them as you have decreased your used trades involved.

    Holty · 04/04/2017 at 08:59

    Ill take the punt on him this week john. Last time he had uninterrupted preseasons he was a keeper. As a Carlton supporter i cant see any opposition teams tagging him as you would think opposition coach would back his side in to beat Carlton. Plus wanting to get rid of Ablett. If he was just out of form id keep him but i picked him to play in the midfield, not as a forward.

AJay · 03/04/2017 at 22:23

Hey guys. Thinking of trading steele down to WHE to make cash to upgrade swallow to oliver. Thoughts ? Thx

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 22:41

    Too sideways.

    Steele is a good pick, one average week doesn't define a player.

    Hash · 03/04/2017 at 22:42

    I'd say no because his BE this week is 24, still has potential and worst comes to worst, you can trade him later and gain some coin

Swans2012 · 03/04/2017 at 22:34

Hold, things looking great, unnamed forward rook to butler wirth considering. I'm considering the same, Similar structure to you, it's the Taranto to whe question that I'm grappling with….I'm leaning towards hold though.

Michael · 03/04/2017 at 22:37

do people think Roughy will be a top 8 fwd or make at least 100k? personally i can't see it, therefore i'll be doing Roughy > WHE

    daniel beales · 04/04/2017 at 00:49

    Was thinking the same trade. Not so much will he be top 10, i mean he's averaged 96 or higher for the last 3 seasons, so even at that he would be good value. I just don't think Hawthorn and their delivery are what they used to be, and he's average will suffer in turn

    Holty · 04/04/2017 at 09:02

    Im holding. He is averaging 77 as a forward and has been in 2 losing sides. He will get better and so will Hawthorn. I have faith he will come good.

IntheNickofTime · 03/04/2017 at 23:17

I've scrambled to correct a trade from last week which I just don't think will be beneficial in the long run:

Roo had to go, went to Lynch. Although Lynch had a bad week, that's not how I justified his axing. GC are going to be a laughing stock this season and if he can't get it to his end of the ground he's going to have a really hard time of it, therefore:

Lynch out, J.Smith out
Nank IN, WHE IN.

Anyone see any issues with this?

    Nick · 03/04/2017 at 23:24

    Seems like an ok trade, trust your premos, currently have hanners and will not trade!

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:40

    They finished bottom four last year, yet Lynch did pretty well.

    The trade was bad to begin with for Lynch imo with the round 9 bye, but I don't think I'd trade him in last week just to dump him the next. Can't see the season going well if such rash decisions are made.

    Kyle · 04/04/2017 at 00:57

    Keep lynch

    J.K · 04/04/2017 at 09:17

    Agree, you just brought Lynch in. Keep him. You will run out of trades if you trade a bloke out on the back of one shocker.

    INPieman · 04/04/2017 at 09:51

    Back Lynch in. You used a trade to get him in. Offloading him a week later uninjured is madness. You will run out of trades & not make Full Premo

Nick · 03/04/2017 at 23:23

Who would you choose between Huston or WHE? Don't think WHE will score 100+ every week, Houston is averaging 76 atm

    Nick · 03/04/2017 at 23:26

    Trading in Huston would give me another 90k to play with

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:34

    Large factor would be job security though where I'd assume WHE would have an edge.

Shinboner · 03/04/2017 at 23:55

Have a bit of faith in the research you put in over the off season guys. There seems to be a hell of a lot of guys here very trigger happy on the trade button already. Rd 2 is done and dusted. Roughy will come good, JOM is looking like he's warming up, … the list goes on. Your supercoach side will not benefit from burning trades and chasing last weeks points.

    whatyasmokin · 03/04/2017 at 23:58

    Yep making trades to new rookies/midpricers to profit an extra 50-100K. Not worth the trades.

neil DEMONS DELIGHT · 04/04/2017 at 00:05

will be doing Roughy to Oliver and parfitt to whe and keeping Smith as loop. probably need to keep rookies longer this yr or trade often for coin .That's the formula of last yrs winner Think I will let them fatten fully

    Shake n bake · 04/04/2017 at 10:49

    Can't believe l didn't start Oliver had him in all pre season then went Swallow instead to save coin. Was at a family function and didn't know Swallow was out round 1! 100% would av went back to Oliver ohwell. Might just be in for me this week to Neil.

Alex · 04/04/2017 at 00:27

Jack Bowes to WHE. Nice and simple trade out the sh1t and trade in the cows.

    TBone · 04/04/2017 at 09:50

    I can't wait to trade him up to WHE, just annoying to have to make another trade to be able to afford the extra $ difference between them

PerthDave · 04/04/2017 at 01:59

I am thinking of trading down to WHE to free up some cash, but have no obvious player to trade. The two options are Steele, who could go large with Steven out, or Roughead, who could go massive against the listless Gold Coast. Who would you trade, community, or would you just not trade at all? Love the banter, guys. Keep up the great work!

    TBone · 04/04/2017 at 09:48

    Don't trade down from mid pricers, use them to trade up to premos. Don't waste a trade if you don't need to

      PerthDave · 06/04/2017 at 07:30

      Thanks, TBone!

Leeds17 · 04/04/2017 at 05:55

What was up with Jack Steele this week? 66%TOG, Barely sighted in the middle, if he's going to have a changing role week to week that's a big concern.

Jimmy · 04/04/2017 at 08:06

Do you guys like the look of Zach Tuohy

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 12:32

    Not really convinced. Prefer def/mid playing Loyd at that price and locked him in at the start.

    I see Doch, Simmo, Rance, Adams and Laird being my other 5 defenders.

    JJ another worth considering, might take him over Simmo. Howe for a good POD.

    Shaw/Boyd maybe he can go big but could possibly be decreasing output this year? Trying not to go with older guys myself bar Mr. Consistent Simmo.

    I see Tuohy as fringe of top defenders like Tom McDonald, not spectacular value at 443K

    Lazza · 04/04/2017 at 12:34

    No, he's freakin ugly, and an ex Blue.

SPUDS · 04/04/2017 at 08:09

Josh J Kennedy or Buddy Franklin ???

    Zee888 · 04/04/2017 at 08:16

    Buddy, less variance in score week to week but will pump out some big ones. He is looking big, strong and playing up the ground a bit to get more touches.

      SPUDS · 04/04/2017 at 08:22

      Thanks

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 12:25

    Agree Buddy

    Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 16:20

    Reid = Value
    Roll the dice or curl up with the rest of the flock.

      SPUDS · 04/04/2017 at 17:58

      cheers

Luke · 04/04/2017 at 08:23

WILL HOSKIN ELLIOT

Past Supercoach Average Scores

Year Games Average
2012 10 49.4
2013 9 48.7
2014 20 67.2
2015 11 41.3
2016 2 49.0
2017 2 104.0

    Rick Grimes · 04/04/2017 at 08:40

    Need to include how many games played for each of those and whether sub affected. Looks a different story this year.

    Holty · 04/04/2017 at 09:09

    I think you have failed to mention the big question, new team!
    Seems Collingwood want to use him more then they did at GWS.
    But valid point you made although i dont think we can be too picky at the rookie priced selections we pick this year.

      Rick Grimes · 04/04/2017 at 09:57

      Concur. I can't see him continuing at 100 Ave, but anything round the 80 would serve a purpose. Got him from the start thankfully, although he was borderline round 1.

        Steeeve · 04/04/2017 at 10:52

        His best asset is his job security. Puts him head and shoulders above other options.

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 12:14

    Also have to remember he's only 23 years old basically coming into his prime now, team change and solid role he's ready to make a decent impact and looks good at collingwood.

      Luke444 · 04/04/2017 at 12:44

      Players hit their prime around 24 or 25. Martin is a prime example of this…25 years old

        whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 12:51

        So he's one year off his prime, and priced at rookie level with good JS. Lock.

          Webspyda · 04/04/2017 at 16:36

          Could be a keeper even

            whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:13

            Didn't really think of him like that but you never know.

Countdown · 04/04/2017 at 08:23

119k left. Rookies
DEF: March, Otten, Hampton (Hibberd, J Smith)
MID: Swallow, P-Pepper (Barrett, Pickett, H-Smith)
RUC: (Strndeca)
FWD: Eddy, Taranto (Parfitt, Hannan)

I only have 1 of the top 5 Rookie BE which is P-Pepper.
Looking for advice to structure up. Thanks

    Trader · 04/04/2017 at 08:36

    Smith to marchbank….. taranto to WHE

      Trader · 04/04/2017 at 08:37

      Oh km you have March….

    Rick Grimes · 04/04/2017 at 08:49

    Think you need to wait til teams drop. Mightake the decision easy.

Rick Grimes · 04/04/2017 at 08:45

Can only get one of Butler or Houston. What are people's thoughts on output and JS?

    crusher · 04/04/2017 at 09:01

    Buttler

      Holty · 04/04/2017 at 09:10

      Agreed. Would think he has better js. Houston may go when Pittard returns

Mitch · 04/04/2017 at 09:12

Hey guys,
Thinking is it worth trading Picket who is looking like he is not going to give me much cash, to a better rookie (Eg. Hannan) who will give me an extra 75k if he keeps it up.
I feel like cash generation is going to be challenging this year, with limited good rookies. Is it worth trading to get the best rookies that will give you a extra 50-100k?
How much is a trade worth?

    Mitch · 04/04/2017 at 09:21

    Just quickly did the maths. Last years winner had a team value of $13.7 million. Starting at $10 million it means you need $3.7 million using the 30 trades. 10 trades or so will be used as corrective/injury trades leaving 20 trades to gain 3.7 million. 185k a trade.

      whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 12:15

      Spot on 100K isn't worth it. Need to make roughly 150K

Kev · 04/04/2017 at 09:28

Jordie Lewis should buy a lotto ticket this week. Three weeks for a cowards punch that breaks a players jaw is an absolute gift, Leigh Mathews got more than that for his coward punch on Neville Bruns in the days when it was almost legal to punch somebody from front on.
No wonder kids think its OK to king hit people from behind when the AFL considers the act as no worse than a high bump that a player sees coming. The dirty mongrel should've got 12 weeks and a civil penalty. If my child was king hit from behind on a footy field I'd be demanding that the cops charged him and I'd be suing the coward for every cent he was overpaid for the year

    Johnno · 04/04/2017 at 09:52

    Both Cripps and Lewis were getting stuck into each other before the blow so no way was it a coward punch. Cripps got up 20 sec later and remonstrated with Lewis so he certainly wasn't feeling any effects straight after. He didn't even touch his jaw after the incident and nor did the doctor order a concussion test. Lewis bloody stupid and deserved a few weeks but comparing it to Matthews/Burns is a massive overreaction.

      Holty · 04/04/2017 at 10:40

      Dont you mean Lewis getting stuck into Cripps and Cripps sticking up for himself? Lewis has done it for years. He tries to rough up the opposition which personally i dont mind as long as that is where it stops. My problem with Lewis is he is the type of person who thinks his sh.t dont stink on the field. He roughs up opposition and seems to think "HOW DARE YOU" if they retaliate. That shot on Cripps was simply a cheap shot from a person whose ego is too big for his own good.
      But he is a great player.

        Tibor · 04/04/2017 at 23:41

        Better check that incident from a different camera angle if you really think it was from behind, will be interesting to see if both Cripps and Rowe play this week, they both played out the game with no concussion testing and then Carlton produced a very damaging medical report for mrp purposes, both Melb players actions were pretty dumb but carltons reaction will be noted by all clubs. What goes around…………

      Boltons Blues · 04/04/2017 at 15:35

      So you are condoning a cowards punch from behind? the bloke is a grub and that has just strengthened the case of it, yeah they may have been giving it to each other, but front up and hit in from infront, not behind, dog act

        whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:14

        S.Mitchell and Lewis were always dirty players.

    John James · 12/04/2017 at 15:31

    Both Lewis and Cripps were going for it,Lewis did not hit him from behind they were both facing each other,Cripps didn't even look hurt after and played the game out,if he was that hurt he would have gone off,you are way off the mark.

mark · 04/04/2017 at 09:35

Hey guys im going to trade hanners and i have a couple of options.
I can either trade hanners to oliver, then pickett to WHE
Trade him to another premium mid and trade taranto to WHE
Or trade hanners to WHE then smith up to marchbank.

    TBone · 04/04/2017 at 10:07

    Keep Taranto, trust Hanners. Try and trade in Marchbank if you can

Dildor · 04/04/2017 at 09:55

Will Darcy Cameron or Pruess play this week? If yes, is it worth a trade from Cameron to Pruess knowing that he has low job security?

    Shake n bake · 04/04/2017 at 10:50

    Pruess will play this week.

    Steeeve · 04/04/2017 at 10:51

    Looks like Goldstein is confirmed to return for the Roos so Preuss is a big question mark. I'd drop Majak first, but who knows?
    Tippett being out could open the door for Cameron during the next few weeks (if not necessarily this week). A real wait and see I'm afraid.

Thomas · 04/04/2017 at 10:40

What to do with Joel Smith and Bowes community? I have had all the good rookie forwards from the beginning in Hannan, Butler and WHE, along with all the good defense rookies in Hampton, Otten and stewart. I really want to fit Marchbank in but fall 9k short. What should i do?

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 12:24

    Bowes > Best rookie on whatever line you have him ie FWD Houston/Eddy MID Barrett/Miles
    Smith > Marchbank

    Is that possible with your budget?

      Thomas · 04/04/2017 at 14:30

      Yeah it is thanks mate, although is Houstons JS worthy enough of selection? Concerned he could be a straight swap for Pittard when he is back from injury.

        whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:18

        That is a possibility you could take a punt on Hayward from Sydney? Only played one game.

        Miles can be a forward too. Butler. Parfitt.

TheZim73 · 04/04/2017 at 12:51

Thoughts on Hannebery down to Hoskin-Elliot via Parfitt, this leaves room to upgrade Florent to a 570k premo.
OR I could go Hanners down to Marc Murphy/O'meara and up Florent to WHE?

    Crowmagnon · 04/04/2017 at 16:56

    Can you get WHE without losing hanna?

whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 13:05

Exactly, got to look at the stats not just the score.

Someone was talking about trading Sloane last week, even though he had 24 touches and 9 clearances (77 SC). Those are not the stats of a struggling player, and look what he did on the weekend (146 SC)

crowls · 04/04/2017 at 13:28

Need help to improve my team.
Def Adams, Laird, Marchbank, McGrath, Hampton, Otten, (hibberd, stewart)
Mid Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP (SPS, Barrett, Pickett)
Ruc Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Fwd Dahlhaus, Higgins, Nank, Roughy, Steele, Parfitt, (Houston and eddy)

Plan on parfitt/pickett to WHE leaving 26k in bank. Then probably should hold. BUT…….

Thought about downgrade of Goldy to Murphy via Nank and Steele. But sideways. Pruess at Nth is P…ing me off, confusing me about Goldsteins scoring future. Thought spencer would be playing and stuffing up Max's scores for an early upgrade from Sandi. Now I feel I am losing cash not having Witts, maybe losing points on Goldy as well. No ruck cover if late out for Goldy like last weeks donut as Nank had already played.

Coxy · 04/04/2017 at 14:24

Should I trade tom lynch or Roughead for WHE? Rougheads game could pick up as hawthorns game will, lynch looks set for a tough year as he will hardly see the footy the way the suns are stinking the joint up?

    whatyasmokin · 04/04/2017 at 17:22

    He scored a 42 last year vs GWS so he's having a better year this year technically. XD

cooky · 04/04/2017 at 14:28

The Cam McCarthy experiment needs to end trading to WHE sounds like a sound move?

    SCaddict · 04/04/2017 at 16:26

    Don't give it another thought – pull that trigger once Friday night teams have been finalised and there are no WHE surprise outs. Both Freo and McCarthy are going nowhere any time soon and could even get worse before they get better like Keating's J curve. 🙂

Torts · 04/04/2017 at 14:30

To fellow Hannebery owners, does it concern you that he will probably drop $60K minimum after this Friday and still have a very high BE for another week or two thus dropping a further $?.
It would not upset my structure if I trade him for Bont etc and pick him up again in X weeks for $500K or less. Yes a trade gone but I haven't had to use one yet.
I will probably keep him but I am very tempted.

    DavidSA · 04/04/2017 at 16:51

    No I'm concerned he is a 95-100 player this year mate I'm trading to Wines who looks like he has come into age big time!

      DavisSA · 04/04/2017 at 16:52

      What I mean is even from this point on he looks like a 95-100 player at best

    Rocksta · 04/04/2017 at 17:49

    He's a keeper. Doesn't matter if he drops cash!

    I don't have him but will pick him up in about 3-4 weeks.

      Torts · 04/04/2017 at 20:51

      That's is what I will probably do, pick him up again and I will Shaw get Shaw too. Only a trade and I get the Bont. That's what I am talking about!

    Mike · 08/06/2017 at 19:22

    Hanners scores the last 6 weeks

    112
    103
    118
    134
    137
    115
    Pretty sure he is back pn track fellas

wighty · 04/04/2017 at 15:05

Out J Martin and Taranto…in WHE and Houston. Leaves me with an almost perfect list of rookies, 312k, and 280k price rise over three weeks from the ins. I hate trading early, but this will give me an extra premo early. Am I right to do this ?

    SCaddict · 04/04/2017 at 16:18

    I'd hang on to Taranto another week or two just in case he gets going. Although I have my doubts about his profitability as a cow if he bangs out another 75-80 against the Kangas then he will start making some decent coin. And if he even spuds there will be other decent bubble boys shortly and you can then move him for a $50K-$75K capital gain (at worse) rather than $0 if you ditch him this week.

    The only situation I would advocate moving him on this week would be if you had no other way to jump on WHE. But since you have Jack Martin he's the guy I'd give up to get WHE in and boost that bank balance. Whilst Houston would be a nice to have not sure he's a must have or at least worth sidewaysing Taranto for. I'm in the same situation having Taranto but not Houston and won't be making that switch myself.

    If you were to get Houston in then you are probably better off switching him with a Pickett/Parfitt type who have scored poorly in both games. And even then you would have to consider Houston's JS as to whether even doing that was worth it.

ChrisK · 04/04/2017 at 16:07

Swallow GCS = >> Oliver. Good move or not?

ChrisK · 04/04/2017 at 16:24

Swallow from Suns to Oliver.

Good move or bad move?

    Crowmagnon · 04/04/2017 at 16:41

    Only if you are happy with all of your rookie selections.

Hash · 04/04/2017 at 16:25

What do you guys think about Witts as a potential cash cow?

    Crowmagnon · 04/04/2017 at 16:37

    Seriously considering.

      DavidSA · 04/04/2017 at 16:59

      Mate if I had no FatHanners problem I would go Hickey down to Witts in a heartbeat but I am thinking Hickey can avg 90-95 after round 1. Who you getting rid of?

        Crowmagnon · 04/04/2017 at 17:02

        Im looking at strndca to witts.

          DavidSA · 04/04/2017 at 17:05

          If you got the cash and no other problems with rookies it would be a smart move to do it
          Get more cash generation indeed

        Hash · 05/04/2017 at 15:11

        I actually started with Nankervis, Sandilands and Witts but I'm trying to work out if Witts will have good enough JS and points to stay as a ruckman, or if he's only a cash cow. If he keeps scoring, it might allow me to move Nankervis into the forward line next to Dahlhaus and Macrae and then in a couple of weeks time, I can shaft Pickett, Eddy or Taranto for a premium.

DavidSA · 04/04/2017 at 16:48

FatHanners > Wines = + $80k
ShitPickett > WHE = – $86k

Lose 6k but huge upside cash generation and point scoring

Good trades?? Rest of rookies I'm happy with

Braydn · 04/04/2017 at 17:07

What r people's thoughts on Aaron Hall trade to Oliver or Murphy or keep

Braydn · 04/04/2017 at 17:26

Yer I think I'll do that Hall for Oliver Pickett for WHE that will leave me with $65k

Jimmy · 04/04/2017 at 17:38

Hi Community, Hickey and Hampton out for Oliver and Hoskin Elliot? Would mean that I would be playing Stewart on field in my backline but the way Hampton is playing its actually no loss.

Jimmy · 04/04/2017 at 18:33

Steele to Oliver??

    Jimmy · 04/04/2017 at 18:56

    I would hold…Steele did get 113 in week one. A bit harsh to trade him after 1 bad score. Only concerning thing was that his TOG this week wasn't that high. Not sure as to why

      Pman · 04/04/2017 at 20:12

      Agree 100%. Steele was great in Week 1 and a little quiet this week with less centre bounce's attended however with injury to Jack Stevens and a few others I reckon he'll play more in the middle and start pumping out low 100's. Keeper for now.

Brendan · 04/04/2017 at 18:43

Same as me! Was thinking Murphy though….

Other option was hall to gaff and Pickett to Butler….

Brendan · 04/04/2017 at 20:45

Help please

1) hall to murphy/oliver + Pickett to WHE
2) hall to gaff/heppelll + Pickett to butler
3) hall to murphy/oliver + Pickett to butler and bank the cash

Or part of above…

Leave hall and hope for improve… Worried of a repeat of last year

Leave Pickett and wait for slow cash and save the trade

Thanks all!

Edward · 04/04/2017 at 22:00

Thoughts on this double trade:

Roughead > Hoskin-Elliot
Z.Guthrie > Marchbank

    Russ in W.A · 05/04/2017 at 02:46

    I'd do that Edward…but hope I wouldn't regret the Roughy one.

    Hash · 05/04/2017 at 15:17

    I'm holding onto Roughy on the basis the hawks will win more than they lose and he'll likely play a big role when they do win.

    If you can afford it, maybe hold Z Guthrie until Berry from the lions is named? I expect he'll be named soon, he's an extra 30k but he's def/mid and killing it in the reserves, had 29 touches on the weekend from what I heard.

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