Supercoach round 2 podcast

WHAT AN OPENING WEEK OF SUPERCOACH!

Underperforming rookies are the main stain on our Supercoach underpant.
What is the best course of action as we head into week 2? Trade like mad bastards.. or hold off on aggressive trading until next week?
Close the old eyes, whack in the earbuds and focus. We have a hell of a lot to get through this week community.

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235 Comments

jimmydowland · 28/03/2017 at 19:30

ygb

davo · 28/03/2017 at 19:41

You guys rock! Make Tuesday afternoon here in Perth fly by

Kenny · 28/03/2017 at 19:44

3 choices community .. I can trade Riewoldt out, swing NansCrevis forward and grab Maxie Gawn .. leaves me a little light in the forward line but a big chance to strengthen overall team structure. Also need to downgrade Taranto to Hannan to have enough cash. Leaves $68 grand. Or should I do a straight premo to premo and bring in Kennedy or Franklin? one trade only. Third choice is to swing Dalh forward from the midfield and grab any premo .. again 1 trade only but very little cash remaining. Thoughts community .. thanks

    SnakeWu · 28/03/2017 at 19:48

    option 2 if you insist on ditching roo this week

    option 1 if you dont mind holding a week and waiting to see if it was just a blip for taranto.

    Abel · 28/03/2017 at 23:01

    Def 3

    J.K · 29/03/2017 at 09:49

    I don't have him, but Roo is probably a hold given it could be two weeks? If you are intent on trading, IMHO Gawn is a must, so I would go option 1. You also need to find a way to get Dahl in the fwd line at some point – he obv is not a premo midfielder long term.

      Kenny · 29/03/2017 at 13:32

      Thanks Snakey, Abel & JK .. Dalh was always going forward .. put him in for there for structure really, a Justin Case option .. allowed me to go strong in defense, pretty deep in the mids and a 2-1-5 forward line.

Alex · 28/03/2017 at 20:13

St Nick to Luke Hodge via DPP. I'm going for overall rank and I see this as the best move to make, NANK will be at F3 and HODGE at F4. Help me escape the cookie cutter! (Also pocket 70k)

    Shezza · 28/03/2017 at 20:25

    Could just be replacing him with another injury waiting to happen knowing Hodgey's track record in that area.

    Tommo · 28/03/2017 at 20:32

    Yeah it's more of a "look at how clever am I" move than perhaps the most sensible of selections. Hodgey and the Hawks days in the sun are over my friend!

Luke · 28/03/2017 at 20:41

Dilemma's Dilemma's. What a round. .Ive got ($341k – M Johnson, $197k – Jake Kelly, $117k – Andy Otten) all in the forward line on field. Should I trade to McGrath or Marchbank? and which Stain should I remove from my team? Thanks guys

    Dan · 28/03/2017 at 21:32

    All in forward line otten and kelly???

    Youngy · 28/03/2017 at 22:12

    Don't trade any yet, its only round 1, they could turn it around.

    burnmen · 28/03/2017 at 22:33

    They all performed according to their price honestly.

    wighty · 29/03/2017 at 18:02

    Why even think of trading after 1 round…except perhaps roo. It can only come back and bite you.

Ken · 28/03/2017 at 20:41

Delightful podcast gentleman. Thank you for keeping my spirits high after a poor week 1. In fact just thanks – your talented offerings each and every week is really has what has kept this old guy playing.

Ty Webb · 28/03/2017 at 20:43

Highlight of the week as always Crouching! You too Jock and Higgo.

Brad · 28/03/2017 at 21:02

My team – Treloar&Order SVU – scored 2,154 this week. Thinking of trading out Jy Simpkin and Tom Hickey for Hannan and Nankervis. Giving me about $180k in the bank. Think both are upgrades in terms of scoring output and appreciation in price. Don't necessarily have to make the trades but seems logical for future upgrades and cash building. What's everyone's thoughts?

    Paul · 28/03/2017 at 21:06

    Lachie plowman is an absolute must have

      burnmen · 28/03/2017 at 22:31

      ok

      joshy · 28/03/2017 at 23:27

      i havnt heard much of him is this his second year or something?

    Hawks · 28/03/2017 at 21:09

    I would hold 1 week. Simpkin & Hannan could score totally different this week.

    Also Hickey was up against Gawn, it can only get easier for him.

    Reassess after round 2

    cr0magn0n · 28/03/2017 at 21:33

    Love the team name!

Danners · 28/03/2017 at 21:20

Nice podcast lads! As I am tempted to bring in Nankervis, I probably will hold off unless Swallow can't get up. Went to Adel vs GWS and didn't see much of Taranto. JS looks pretty low and probably will go into Hannan/Butler pocket the cash and see what happens in Round 2

Arod · 28/03/2017 at 21:25

Really dislike trading rd 1 but Riewoldt ahhhh the pain
Who to get is my question ?? Thinkn kennedy buddy are the top picks, thaughts please

    Youngy · 28/03/2017 at 22:09

    Those are both good options personally id be bringing in Dahlhouse if u have not got him as I believe he will be more consistent. But that's just personal preference.

    Beezneez · 29/03/2017 at 12:20

    Thinking of the same trade but also looking at M. Murphy. Had Oliver Z Jones and Rockliff in my team early last week.but changed to Marchbank O'Meara and Bont to get Roughead at F5. Not too much harm done but wish I'd put Butler on field instead of Pickett. Thinking will wait a week to see what happens. O'Meara may score better – 3points and looked rusty. Definitely want Rockliff back ( maybe crazy but looking at trading for Kelly GWS) after Roughead to Hannan. That's why it will be better to wait a week to consider.

      Beezneez · 29/03/2017 at 12:22

      PS this was supposed to be a reply to Luke in the next post.

Luke · 28/03/2017 at 21:29

O'Meara to Oliver….talk me out of it somebody haha

    cr0magn0n · 28/03/2017 at 21:37

    Chill out man! You're gonna prematurely trade (in your pants)!

    Danners · 28/03/2017 at 21:56

    One has averaged 90+ once playing in a weaken midfield, the other is in his second season playing in a stacked midfield

    burnmen · 28/03/2017 at 22:30

    No trades by round 18

    Spifflicator · 29/03/2017 at 13:13

    Trading Omeara for Oliver is simply trading for the sake of it, Omeara didn't even score badly!

smote · 28/03/2017 at 21:32

Cheers to the purveyors of paralytical podcasting for your collective wisdom. For a moment there everything smelt like roses. Then i looked at my rookie bench again and saw some substantial staining. Time to roll up the sleeves and start scrubbing!

The Nank · 28/03/2017 at 21:46

Should I trade smith for hanan this week? The issue is if macgath goes well this week I won't be able to get him and Hannan in

    burnmen · 28/03/2017 at 22:29

    You can't have everyone, especially if you don't have cash in the bank.

    Abel · 28/03/2017 at 23:03

    Do it

Steeeve · 28/03/2017 at 21:47

Anyone else have Nank, Marchbank, Butler on field and sitting back Thursday night, thinking yep this Supercoach caper is easy? Haha the gods are cruel

    RobDog · 29/03/2017 at 00:18

    Yeah, have all three, but played Pickett on field so he kept me in perspective lol

      Steeeve · 29/03/2017 at 09:13

      I had him on the pine luckily. Played Taranto and Mountford.
      Absolutely packing my dacks that half these rookies will be back in the twos before bringing me any (let alone enough) of that sweet warchest nectar.

Jager Bombs · 28/03/2017 at 21:53

Missed McGrath, butler and hoskin elliott. Does the community think all 3 of these rookies are must have's?

    Youngy · 28/03/2017 at 22:03

    At this stage NO, possibly next week if they score well

    burnmen · 28/03/2017 at 22:35

    Nobody is a must have after one round. Except Gawn and Danger, but they were must haves since last year.

    Kev · 28/03/2017 at 22:48

    Butler backing up his 90 will make more cash than those 200k rooks backing up 80's, so I see him as a bigger must have. Hold this week though

    Spifflicator · 29/03/2017 at 13:14

    not yet

Youngy · 28/03/2017 at 21:59

Looking at the most traded players makes me feel Sick.

If your looking to tradeout the likes of Dahlhouse, Pickett and Eddy and Trading in the likes of Dusty and Heppel consider that we are only 1 round in.

One round is not a good indicator on their future performance.

For example Last year Papley started with back to back tons and then didn't ton up for the rest of the year

    Tophawk · 28/03/2017 at 22:27

    Bingo. You nailed it. Past performance does not necessarily mean similar performance in the future.

    Remember, round 2 is only about points, not cash. Cash becomes king going into round 3. Save your trades this week, and grab those missing rookies that have backed up from last week.

    Unless you have a premo that is crippled and out for 2 weeks+, (Riewoldt) you may want to consider a corrective trade to a similar forward premo this week. If you do not have Franklin and/or JJK (TJ Lynch) at this time, then you may want to pull the trade trigger this week.

      Chris · 29/03/2017 at 09:05

      Yeah could be the case to trade Roo, but I still have Dahl, Macrae, Nank and Steele up fwd….I'm covered πŸ™‚

    Kev · 28/03/2017 at 22:50

    Happens every year, Youngy. Suspect most of them are chasing the weekly round prize money

    Russ in W.A · 29/03/2017 at 02:17

    Those guys or gals either live their whole lives impulsively or have no idea how to go the season distance in Supercoach, they end up being the easybeats in their leagues, or ranking over the 50000 mark.

Cozza · 28/03/2017 at 22:21

Was flying overseas on Saturday, so missed the Swallow out πŸ™ I was also just short of $$ to add Marchbank to my team, but now want him! Thoughts on Swallow to McGrath which will leave me a bit more cash to allow me to bring in Marchbank next week if he performs again? Also have Smith – will use him as loophole next week but likely use swing options to bring Hannan in for him next week as well, but don't have enough coin to do those moves without the Swallow move this week.

    Webspyda · 29/03/2017 at 00:03

    Good thinking. You have a plan trust your gut!
    If you listen to the naysayers it will be to late.
    No one knows the future and how it will play out.

    Chris · 29/03/2017 at 09:13

    I think Swallow will be back this week mate….hold him

    Lazza · 29/03/2017 at 12:59

    As Chris says … Swallow almost certain to play this week. Could have played R1 if the game was on Monday. ….. Hold.

Luke · 28/03/2017 at 22:28

What do I do with nick Riewoldt I'm really stuck I go for overall rank and he could be out for long then 2 weeks or might not be out for that long and I don't really want to field a rookie for long

Helppppppppp

    Webspyda · 29/03/2017 at 00:04

    TRAAADe
    use $ for mid pricers on the rise!!
    Fix the failed rookie farce!

    Juzzy · 29/03/2017 at 02:07

    Agree, Trade.
    If you are going for overall rank pick your favourite premo fwd and sleep well.
    Otherwise spend the next few weeks sweating in your sleep and having recurring nightmares about Pickett and/or Eddy.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 28/03/2017 at 22:32

That was p1ss funny!!
Told my neighbour to lay down in the garden to give me a seizure salad. So wrong crouching but was in tears,
Joke of the year so far, marginally better than Peter higgin "bottom" of the hill bottom.
Sage like advice on trades but reckon u have to get big Maxy in ASAP 130 in 3 qtrs just warming up.
If Nank did that to Kruz what is big gawny gonna do?

    Jack · 29/03/2017 at 00:52

    what did Nank do to Kruz? Kreuzer got the better of Nank

      johnno2908 · 29/03/2017 at 06:46

      He only had 8 touches and scored 114 sc points. Only had 27 hit outs but large amount to advantage I read earlier in the week. Can't find the figures of exactly how many myself? Where does one find this stat?

        Derek · 29/03/2017 at 08:54

        CD don't let that info public. Need to pay for it.

Canny the Manny · 28/03/2017 at 23:00

Amazing how 3-4 months of supercoach study can go out the window after round 1. Opted with Treloar and Hannebery over Pendles and Kennedy and had Hannebery as captain. I know it's early early days but the dream of the 50k is no more and the joy of supercoach is somewhat diminished after a horror start. Feeling pretty damn shite lads.

    Borko · 28/03/2017 at 23:13

    Long way to go … focus on the positives and make your next move a good one!

    Juzzy · 29/03/2017 at 00:13

    Chin up Mate.
    It's going to take a few weeks at least for the overall rankings to have any real significance.
    What happened last week may be the polar opposite this week.

    Keep your supercoach joy.

    Randomcliche2 · 29/03/2017 at 02:39

    Higgo in my head said talk about bell curves zzzzzzzz, an early 1800-2000 score is retrievable, a poor structure less so and and poor temperament is not. Fortunately, the last is the most important for supercoach success and you sound like you have it deep inside, stay strong.

    And, when all else fails (5 weeks later) build a round win team with all the KPFs! Enjoy.

    Loop · 29/03/2017 at 05:16

    Same here but I had Hanna as VC. Really disappointing. I also have Doc and Dahl. Just the wrong combination in Rd 1 and just a bit disappointing with all the rookie scores. I had Butler on the bench and also have Smith. My hope is that Norths rookies improve, surely they have to play them but they looked a bit ordinary and they have a tough draw early.

      Holmes_Heroes · 29/03/2017 at 13:25

      The person with the best score had no Gawn, Danger, Pendles or Doc. Great team but if your structure is strong you can make up a bad score in round 1.

Martin · 28/03/2017 at 23:18

I am looking at making just one trade an INJURY TRADE.. Do i go hibberd or joel smith to Mcgrath? I have a very light defence so perhaps a rookie lope hole option will come in handy

    Juzzy · 29/03/2017 at 01:14

    Watch the team sheets closely.

    If Hibberd gets dropped (which he might) trade Smith to McGrath. Use Hibberd as your loop.
    Better to have a loop who doesn't have a smashed up shoulder and will be missing months.

    Another option is to wait one week to see how all this rookie carnage plays out …

    Northernsoul74 · 29/03/2017 at 11:40

    Well Hibberd isn't injured and Smith is so there's your answer.

Juzzy · 29/03/2017 at 00:54

Great podcast as always guys.

Like many I have the "Riewoldt Dilemma". With little cash the alluring Marchbank and higher end def rooks are out of my reach unless I trade Roo for Higgins. I cannot do this purely as a matter of principle.

I have been contemplating the popular Nick down to WHE but that buggers my structure and will end with me punching myself in the head come round 18 when I am out of trades.

So I think it's Nick to Franklin and pray like hell my bench rooks make some money or new options present.

    Russ in W.A · 29/03/2017 at 01:03

    Or……he might only be out for 2 weeks and you'll wish you'd held him.

      Juzzy · 29/03/2017 at 01:35

      Footy/Saints tragic (sorry Wombat for mentioning the saints) but I am backing 4-6 weeks.

      Not a doctor. Purely speculation. From a marketing point of view if your most revered player went down in the first week of the season wouldn't you spin it to keep memberships and attendances on the rise.

      I hope he does a Jim Stynes though and gets back this weekend πŸ™‚

        Russ in W.A · 29/03/2017 at 01:50

        Yeah I love the Saints and Nick but…I'd still wait for his official medical report or tests he has to do over the next week or so, "bone bruising" might not be that bad, technology's pretty good these days for treating injuries with electrical stimulation etc. P.s, he's not in my side, and really, sidewaysing him to Buddy wouldn't be such a bad thing πŸ™‚

Russ in W.A · 29/03/2017 at 01:03

1482 people have already traded out Hanners hahahaaaaaaaaaa

    Randomcliche2 · 29/03/2017 at 03:00

    Since we are poking fun, my favourites are that Toby Greene and Josh Caddy are so high up the exit list. They didn't do much wrong, considering one was first game with club and the other is forward in a team soundly beaten.

      Leeds17 · 29/03/2017 at 06:12

      Watching Caddy's 50/50 mid-fwd role I'm concerned but you're right he probably wont play much worse than that & still knocked out 73, does look so slow in the black and yellow.

        burnmen · 29/03/2017 at 09:29

        He looks slow whatever colour he wears.

    Derek · 29/03/2017 at 08:57

    I'm sure most are just tinkering and will reverse

    Spifflicator · 29/03/2017 at 13:24

    If you watched the game you would know why, TOG 72% Tackles ZERO. Horse has given a great inside mid player, an outside role on the wing and he looks injured to boot. I'm prepared to say he's cooked as top 10 mid.

      jimbowan · 29/03/2017 at 17:26

      This week will be very interesting, I thought he looked slow and carrying a niggle. If he doesnt ton this week going to be some worried SC coaches (myself included)

    wighty · 29/03/2017 at 18:08

    sc 101….never trade a gun sideways…mostly just wastes a trade.

NutSack · 29/03/2017 at 03:22

Tell Crouching his "palent rie to him" There is no place Pyanmah. He is likely from Myanmah.

    NutSack · 29/03/2017 at 03:25

    He confused from when they told him he comes from Ma and Pa.

    Sana · 30/03/2017 at 13:00

    His palents didn't rie, Pyanmar is an ancient and mystical rand, located near heaven and only visible to the trury enrightened, and Monkey and Pigsy.

Dan · 29/03/2017 at 06:45

Was gunna hold rooey dropped him to nank banking the caah

Super_bj · 29/03/2017 at 06:54

I don't think I am going to trade riewaldt. I bloody love what he produces and if he is only out for 1 or 2 weeks I can suck that up with someone on my bench. Can someone tell me im not being a goose

    Seb · 29/03/2017 at 07:47

    Think I might have to do the same

    Derek · 29/03/2017 at 08:59

    If you are going for Rank I think you may have to bite the bullet and trade him. Going for leagues, hold

Daniel · 29/03/2017 at 07:04

Touk Miller or Jack Steele

Did anyone watch and tell me what you role they played and how they played

TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 08:56

Here's an idea with roo.
If u have Butler put the E on him tomorrow night..
If he goes OK, scores well leave roo on the ground.
If he spuds then reconsider if u want to trade roo to another fwd.
Don't think there r too many fwds who u would want to bring in Thursday so wait and see and reassess Friday.

    Booma · 29/03/2017 at 20:00

    It's a good theory Trigger unless you want to pick up Nank, in which case you're stuck with having to make an early decision.

Martin · 29/03/2017 at 09:25

bye bye rory schlong 77 isnt good enough im oing im down to powell pepper i feel like pepper will be a keeper if puts in a couple of good scores

    burnmen · 29/03/2017 at 10:40

    Yeah yeah whatever.

    Derek · 29/03/2017 at 11:27

    you didn't have power pepper to start with?

      Northernsoul74 · 29/03/2017 at 11:36

      Wow what rookies did he start with?

    jez_m · 29/03/2017 at 11:36

    Sloane will outscore Powell-Pepper by at least 400 points come seasons end. Don't trade your premiums out after one week.

      Randomcliche2 · 29/03/2017 at 18:07

      think you missed the font that was written in….'sarcastica'…can be hard to pick up now and then….

Bruno · 29/03/2017 at 10:10

Wellingham for plowman and miles for butler or Hannan ?

    burnmen · 29/03/2017 at 10:38

    Don't climb out of one trap just to fall in another.

    Derek · 29/03/2017 at 12:59

    You have Wellingham?

      Bruno · 29/03/2017 at 16:46

      Wat was I thinking hey

        SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 16:59

        At least you don't have Cyril Rioli I'm guessing.

Sam_01 · 29/03/2017 at 10:28

I'm thinking Riewoldt to touk miller frees up a bit of cash to fix the crappy rookies that we all have. Was juggling touk pre round 1, what's everyone's thoughts on him? Or should I just play it safe and swap him to macrae but then rule out being able to pick up the more expensive rookies

    burnmen · 29/03/2017 at 10:40

    I like Touk and he was very good late last year. Good value and would take him over players like Wingard or Heeney.

    Derek · 29/03/2017 at 11:28

    if you are trading out NRoo, you should get another premium. the idea is to get closer to full premium, not further away.

      Northernsoul74 · 29/03/2017 at 11:35

      If trading Roo I can only really see Kennedy or Buddy as viable options.

        Derek · 29/03/2017 at 11:38

        not bad options!

          Sam_01 · 29/03/2017 at 12:18

          Keen on trading in Kennedy I think he will have a big year
          But given out fwd options I think touk could sneak into top 10 Fwds Gold Coast will be a lot more competitive this year aswell I feel! I just don't like the idea of being stuck with these crappy rookies that will make a lack of coin, and going a fwd under 450k let's me potentially fix this, by picking up the higher tier rookies that I can also play on field happily. I'm playing for rank so Roo will be traded so how important is the extra coin for our rookie conundrum!

            Captain Risky · 29/03/2017 at 12:40

            I'm going Nroo to Miller. I reckon 3-4 weeks out min for Nroo. Miller finished off strong last year. Lots of contested ball, just lacking efficiency last week. tough for him again this week with GWS but after that I think will improve. Likewise hoping he'll sneak into top 10 and presents a bit of value at his price.

              Sam_01 · 29/03/2017 at 12:48

              Well looking at top 6 we got
              Kennedy franklin dahlhaus macrae lynch all in there I'd say but then that last spot for the 6 and then the remaining spot in top 10 could be anybody's … roughy nank touk Greene
              Got tarranto Houston Stewart and Hampton on field all potentially scoring me sub 60 For the next few weeks if I don't have the cash

                Captain Risky · 29/03/2017 at 15:38

                They would be my guesses at the top 10 as well, possibly Steele or Ryder ? although I don't like key position players generally or Greene.
                At some stage I will have to pick up 2 out of Buddy, Lynch and Kennedy though.

        Lazza · 29/03/2017 at 13:14

        Kennedy for mine … has the added distributor in Sam Mitchell … Whilst Buddy is down one with no real replacement for Tom Mitchell…. With SM up field I think JJK will kick more goals this year and crack the 100 average.
        But both are likely to be top 6 by year's end … your decision on which to pick might be influenced by the amount of cash you want to bank. $17,600 difference.

          Derek · 29/03/2017 at 13:33

          There is a huge difference between kennedys score when they win and when they lose.

          Have a look at WCE upcoming games and think about how many they will win.

          There home games, where they can put on a serious score are, Saints, Swans, Fremantle, Dogs, GWS, Cats.

          WCE away games look a lot easier.

JerseyforHawks · 29/03/2017 at 10:30

Cesar Salad indeed. Will be seeking Wines and Jones this week.

    burnmen · 29/03/2017 at 10:39

    Both unlikely to be top positions in their respective lines, waste of trades imo.

    Jones possibly worth the risk as he's much cheaper.

    INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 11:26

    Chasing last weeks points never ever works out

LetsGo · 29/03/2017 at 11:02

Didn't catch the GWS game, how did Taranton look? 44 points from a 200k player isn't exactly the return I wanted

    INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 11:25

    It was a high intensity game. And his first real game of AFL, & away from home against a very good side. Should do better against the Suns assuming he's selected. I'm giving him another before making a call

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 11:29

    I didn't see it either but apparently Adelaide came to play GWS thinking about holding the premiership cup.
    My take:
    It was a hot day both on the field and temperature so took a lot out of the players esp a first year player adjusting to his first game of AFL
    I'm going to give him another shot this week as GWS play the Suns so this might gives us a better idea as to Timmys prospects and SC relevance.
    Then make a call

    Lazza · 29/03/2017 at 13:17

    He looked well off the pace. If they keep hum in the team it may take 3 or 4 weeks for him to settle in with the rhythm of the big boys game.

    Danners · 29/03/2017 at 15:09

    Wasn't near the ball much, heard from GWS press conference that they're likely to make a few changes. Wouldn't be surprised if he was one of them

    Tony · 30/03/2017 at 12:43

    Might last a few more weeks at best. Surely he's the out when Coniglio returns.

INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 11:21

169 savage coaches have dumped Nat Fyfe. Wow…….Ruthless

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 11:32

    Lots jumping off Treloar as well??
    Mind boggling.

      INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 11:57

      622 have kicked him to the curb. Genius

    SuperSarah6 · 29/03/2017 at 12:19

    Surely they've made a mistake!!

    SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 12:47

    Yeah ruthless and perhaps a little disturbed … sounds like someone I know …

      INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 13:07

      Disturbed is challenging the bye master at his own craft

        Daniel · 29/03/2017 at 14:01

        Insanity. What were they expecting? The guy put up 108 (Fyfe) and Treloar was thereabouts as well (or will be).

    Kyle · 29/03/2017 at 14:28

    Just more people chasing points. Happens every year. Seeing hanners greene caddy fyfe treloar all being traded out in massive numbers and the number of people bringing in JJK makes me laugh

    Youngy · 29/03/2017 at 16:02

    169 Idiots

Dac Zawson · 29/03/2017 at 11:40

I started this year with a 2-0-6 defensive structure and a 4-1-3 forward structure as the defensive rookies looked to be able to perform decent enough and the rookie options in the forward line didn't look great.
However, this week seemed to give the indication that such a defensive structure is not suitable.
I have both Riewoldt and Joel Smith, meaning that I have the opportunity to fix some structural issues.
What I'm proposing is trading Smith to Taylor Adams & Riewoldt to Mitch Hannan to beef up my backline.
Thoughts community???

    INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 12:37

    Normally I would advise against round 2 trades. But that sir is a great solution to your problem. With the rubbish scores the defence rookies coughed up I think you need a D3. And from what I saw of Mitch Hannan he's looking like a must have. Probably just a case of this week or next week.

    Derek · 29/03/2017 at 12:56

    Where do you have Hibberd? Mid or defence?

    You might be able to do a straight trade NRoo to adams if you have the right swing set.

    Good to hold off on Hannan until named round 3.

    What your whole team look like, let's see if you can swing NRoo straight to adams

      Derek · 29/03/2017 at 13:19

      If you have Hibberd in defence and Parfitt or Pickett in mids…. trade out NRoo, swing Parfitt/Pickett forward and bring in Adams in midfield.

      Swing Adams to defence with Hibberd

      Dac Zawson · 29/03/2017 at 13:24

      Derek you majestic human, your suggestion has worked wonders. I did have Hibberd in defence, meaning the the swing was possible. Now I can see what Hannan produces next week and if a trade from Taranto down to him is the best move.
      Thankyou kind sir

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 13:29

        Gotta luv the double switch

        Derek · 29/03/2017 at 17:32

        welcom

    Rocket · 29/03/2017 at 13:49

    I've done something similar: Riewoldt to Hannan, JSmith to Laird.

jez_m · 29/03/2017 at 11:41

Can't believe 1510 people have traded out Hannebery after one poor game. FYI he hasn't had a score that low since Round 21, 2013. So clearly he will come good.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 12:05

    Let's hope so Jez. There are going to be a lot of nervous Hanners owners Friday night. Rumours have swirled that he might be carrying something but nothing has been confirmed of course. His lack luster JLT form carried over into Rd1 but hopefully his pride kicks in and he flips back to the Hanners we all know.

    But if he goes say sub 80 and the other Sydney gun mids ton up panic will run rife and then the temptation to sideways will be massive. Until then you have to keep the faith this round for sure and hope it was just a temporary blip on the radar.

      jez_m · 29/03/2017 at 12:08

      Spot on. I went with JPK over Hanners thankfully due to his ultra-consistency, but one bad week shouldn't have you hitting the trade button.

        Derek · 29/03/2017 at 12:12

        I see Heeney might be ready for round 3, something else into the mix to think about.

      Spifflicator · 29/03/2017 at 13:29

      Dumped him. Looks like a shadow of his former self only 72% TOG and 0 Tackles. Appears injured and did not impact the contest. Will move him on for either Selwood or Heppell (cash generation).

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 13:41

      Very tempted to trade hannas to Gawn. I went deep in the mids light up fwd, and Ryder R1.
      I have SPP at M9.
      Gawn trade would bring SPP on the ground at M8 which most teams have anyway, Ryder into Fwd line so relying on 1 less rook up Fwd and Gawn at R1.
      I know you r not meant to trade Rd 1 but this is very good structurally I feel. Strengthens the fwd line, Ruck and puts a guy on the ground at M8 who most have there anyway?
      Downside besides using a trade?

        SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 13:53

        You would have to commit to that trade early in the piece with the Swans playing Friday night. So you would be absolutely spewing if Big Maxy was a late out on the Sunday with the back soreness he is currently dealing with, especially if Hanners also goes large for the double whammy.

        That's one reason I'd hold your horses one more week if you can Trig, even though the prospect of Gawn tearing the Blues a new one on the weekend is extremely appealing. You could feel the wrath of the fantasy gods or it could just go exactly as you plan. So you will either be patting yourself on the back for a job well done come Sunday night or looking for that team delete button!

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 14:01

          My very thoughts bloody Gawn with a back niggle is a pain.
          Will see how Butler goes 2mrw night. If he posts a good score may need two trades Rd 3 to bring in him and hannan.
          If that's the case will have to pull the trigger on Hannas Friday.
          Don't call me TRIGGER HAPPY for nuthin πŸ™‚
          Getting the rooks who are going good to make $ priority.

            SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 14:43

            Excellent point about Butler Trig. If he produces another solid score tomorrow night he will be another one that coaches will need to consider for cash generation. So that may impact on whether coaches, who don't have him or WHE, go early with another trade this week or not, in anticipation of having to make one or two correctives for either Butler and/or WHE next week.

        Shake n bake · 29/03/2017 at 13:55

        You read my mind Trigg im thinking about doin the same with Nank. Hes my R1 but might swing him fwd this week to bring in Gawn. Hmmmm.

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 14:04

          Does look pretty good don't it?

          U have to make the call even earlier with Nank playing 2mrw night

            Shake n bake · 29/03/2017 at 16:22

            Might not make the Nank move this week but for what im thinking l will have to go early on hannan for what l need to do before rd 3 Trigg.

    INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 12:59

    I didn't see much of the game but apparently Hanners didn't spend a lot of time in the guts. I've heard the rumours he's carrying an injury. If he has another poor score this week his price will crash & his owners will flee in droves. But the opportunists will circle & strike when the form inevitably turns around. And the same applies for Cripps

      SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 13:12

      You can always count on vultures and sharks to circle a juicy fresh carcass in the making. πŸ™‚

        Derek · 29/03/2017 at 13:17

        this year the opportunities to make cash are limited. Success will come from good buying.

          INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 14:00

          Hell to the yeah on that one Derek. Picking off premos at huge discounts will be vital

          jez_m · 29/03/2017 at 15:04

          Couldn't agree more Derek. Picking off premium players at their lowest price will be crucial this year.

      Lazza · 29/03/2017 at 13:28

      Hanners had a medial knee injury in the GF. He didn't have surgery but did wear a brace for some time. This is why I didn't pick him or Parker who also had an injury pre-season. Hanners is a late target for me once he has proven he is injury free.
      Of his 71% TOG, he only spent 50% in the middle in R1.

      Steeeve · 29/03/2017 at 17:15

      Hannas and Cripps are both in my preseason top 10 mids. Jumping on them at a big discount is a dream for me. Only problem is they stunk it up in round one so that bad score won't stay in their three round average for long enough. Not that the people dropping the both seem to care…

        Derek · 29/03/2017 at 17:30

        RGray and Sloane might be juicy as well

          BlakeyP · 29/03/2017 at 18:37

          Talk in Adelaide is that R Gray will be spending a lot of time FWD this year

            burnmen · 29/03/2017 at 20:51

            It said that on the AFL website.

12345 · 29/03/2017 at 12:15

This might not make sense but need help if you can understand it

Should I trade roo for touk miller which frees up cash and can trade Joel smith to McGrath( would trade roo this week) and smith to McGrath next week to see if McGrath performs thiss weeks. And if Taranto doesn't perform I will make him into hannan ( next week)
Or
Roo to buddy or Kennedy(this week) but to get McGrath I have to trade down Taranto to hannan if he doesn't perform again. (Next week)

So option 1 has risk with touk but might be an only 2 trade move.
Where as option 2 I will most likely have to make 3 trades.

Thoughts?

    12345 · 29/03/2017 at 14:04

    ??

    Choice · 29/03/2017 at 14:29

    tough without any coin
    I would trade Roo this week to Buddy and watch the rooks
    Then watch the rooks this weekend to see where you're at

    Captain Risky · 29/03/2017 at 15:31

    I'm trading Roo this week to Miller, partially to free up more options next week if needed, although my rookies are generally ok,
    I have Butler, Nank, Steele, Marchbank – don't have smith or pickett.

    Option 2 has less risk going premo to premo, but then you have rookie exposure risk ( and you still have smith as well).

    Either way it's risk. Wait until teams are announced and see if there's any rookie carnage, then decide. Seems to me that rookies are presenting more risk than mid pricers at present, ( Job Security, poor scores) but it's only week 1…

Jono · 29/03/2017 at 12:15

How RUBBISH was Lynch I picked him over JJK unbelievable!!

    jez_m · 29/03/2017 at 12:35

    Think you're being a bit harsh there Jono. Lynch was pretty well held for most of the game v Brisbane but still managed to kick 3 goals. Sure Kennedy has the games where he goes 150+ but he can easily follow that up with a 50 the next week. Remember it's only one week out of 23.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 12:41

    Fortunately Lynch came home like a freight train in the 4th qtr or the discrepancy would've been even larger. But the ups and downs comes with the territory as a KPP owner. All those NRoo owners who are trading into JJK this week could receive a rude awakening in Rd2.

    Last year he did exactly same thing with a humungous 180 against the Lions in Rd1 but only an 84 the following week. In fact he failed to ton up in well over half his games last season (13). So the reality is that new JJK owners this week may have already missed his best score for the season. He did however go huge against the Saints last season so I guess we'll see which particular line of history repeats or not.

    Spifflicator · 29/03/2017 at 13:27

    As in GC Suns Lynch who scored 101?! Tongue in cheek perhaps?

    Lazza · 29/03/2017 at 13:30

    He was pretty good considering his team's performance. The umpy didn't help either … should have had at least 3 free kicks for goal if the umpy had realised the jumper he was wearing was actually his opponent.

      Shake n bake · 29/03/2017 at 14:01

      100% correct Lazza should have had a few free kicks. Umpires were terrible.

Steven Jurica · 29/03/2017 at 12:54

haha Erogenous

INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 13:03

I told my son not to pick JJK because he can't score away from home. He told me to get stuffed & picked him anyway. He's been reminding me about it all week. Damn 8 year olds. There is no Flat Track Bully like JJK. He beats up on rubbish like no other. Have some patience with Lynch. I think you'll find he far more consistent

    Kyle · 29/03/2017 at 14:25

    Considering lunch still scored over 100 even with a few bad calls that didnt go his way i would still be more than happy with lynch. Not like JJK is gonna average 170 for the season anyway πŸ˜›

    Someone like me tho is licking my lips and have both in the team tho πŸ˜€

crusher · 29/03/2017 at 13:23

Do we need to get Housten and Hannen

    SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 13:39

    Hannan appears to be the more enticing prospect although it's always difficult to be too conclusive based on one round of scores. If he spuds out say a 45 this weekend we may feel a little differently about him, even if that seems unlikely right now with the Dees playing the Blues.

    So you probably need to think about finding a spot in your team to bring him into for next week assuming he backs up with another solid score in Rd2. Still think it's a tad premature to make that move this week unless you are perhaps dealing with an injury like NRoo or Smith (using DPP wizardry). Even then you should really explore all your options first before committing to a rookie off the back of one impressive game.

      INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 14:14

      The major concern with Houston is his JS. It's whether he can hold his place when Pittard returns. But whilst most of the rookies deposited steaming turds, Houston was good. Under no circumstances can you bring him in this week. If Hannan backs up another good performance this week it's simply a matter of who makes way. Mr Pickett & Mr Taranto have large question marks against their names

        Steeeve · 29/03/2017 at 17:23

        And maybe Mr Roughead too. He's no use getting us 70s

    Danners · 29/03/2017 at 15:07

    No, if you can wait a week, that would be the best option

Seeker · 29/03/2017 at 14:20

Like many I went shallow in my Defence with my starting line up. I also have Roo. I am concerned his injury is more than 1-2 so if it's more like 3-6, well through the miracle of DPP swings I can bolster my Defence. Basically I can pick anyone back the and have Simpson and Laird.

Who's the best Premo to get back down there? My one stipulation is they need to have a low injury risk. I don't want to have to trade them out in two weeks time.

    Choice · 29/03/2017 at 14:25

    shaw

    INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 14:31

    Looks like there is no shortage of good defence options. Shaw or Adams. Or if your spuds are large enough Jeremy Howe

      Seeker · 29/03/2017 at 21:24

      I'm Howe is definitely on the radar

    SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 15:44

    You could also consider saving some coin on a Tuohy who also has an attractive Rd12 bye for many sides. Has played 94 games in a row so you don't get any more durable than that!

    Those savings can then be applied to patching up another vulnerability in your team in the next week or two. Although we're only one week in it's beginning to look like the year of the midpricer. Those who went more GnR got severely punished on the opening weekend fielding a bunch of spud rookies unless they had a JJK or Dusty to offset the pain. As many of us predicted in the preseason this is the worst rookie class we've ever seen and those who didn't pay heed suffered the consequences in Rd1.

    So the best way to avoid playing those spud rookies is to invest in one or two midpricers that look set to take off and that have some basis to back it up like either a role change or an opportunity at a new club such as a Tuohy / Steele / Higgins / Nank / Jones etc.

      Seeker · 29/03/2017 at 21:26

      Cheers SCaddict, Tuohy a possible selection. Just waiting on more news on Roo

      The Ranger · 29/03/2017 at 22:27

      Early days SC. Its a big call to suggest the midpricers route is going to be better than the GnR after only one round. In my experience the midpricer team will always go better over the first few rounds as they have less rookies onfield.
      I should also be honest and admit that I'm one of those that stuck to the GnR structure, I'm guessing you went with more midpricers this year?

motty4 · 29/03/2017 at 15:30

Seizure salad lol!!! Man i love u guys.

Steve · 29/03/2017 at 15:37

Hey community, is 2 trades too many for round 1 considering Ill potentially need to make 2 rookie corrections next week?

Ive got Roo and I agree with Jock that we have to move him on. I also have Horlin Smith who ripped out a modest 63.

Do I give Horlin Smith another look or trade him out now to someone like Clayton Oliver?

    jez_m · 29/03/2017 at 16:00

    I'd definitely be moving Riewoldt on Steve. But I'd be holding Horlin-Smith for another week.

      Youngy · 29/03/2017 at 16:05

      Agree, Dont sideways trade

        INPieman · 29/03/2017 at 16:16

        Horlin Smith 63 will only be in his price movement for 1 week. His score this week is far more important. You absolutely have to keep him

          Randomcliche2 · 29/03/2017 at 18:00

          +1

          Derek · 29/03/2017 at 18:07

          gee…. 63 is pretty good…

            Seeker · 29/03/2017 at 21:28

            Yeah not bad for a guy priced at $234k and given an inside mid role to assist Danger and Jelwood

    Steve · 29/03/2017 at 16:13

    Thanks lads. Just needed someone to talk me out of it!

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 29/03/2017 at 16:19

    GH-S TOG was only 64%.

    If he gets more TOG this week should score better .. he had a few clangers from rushed intercepted kicks from stoppages.

    It almost point for TOG %

    so if he gets 80 plus TOG if he scores the same he should score over 80.

Jamie · 29/03/2017 at 16:23

What's the news on big Maxy Gawn?

    Youngy · 29/03/2017 at 16:44

    What news, dont tell me he is injured

      SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 16:51

      Ha ha relax Youngy. He just had some back soreness after the last game so is listed as a 'test' on the AFL injury list. But I'm sure a beast like that will be right to go by Sunday.

      Although there could be a few anxious coaches Thursday night just in case Goody decides to rest him up against the Blues and give Spencer a go. However I'd be staggered if he is listed as an OUT tomorrow.

        Touk tuk · 29/03/2017 at 17:15

        I was going to swing NANK fwd for roo and trade in GAWN….

        What shoukd i do community??

          Derek · 29/03/2017 at 17:25

          good trade if you have the cash

            Touk tuk · 29/03/2017 at 18:13

            Will they risk gawn this early in the season against carlton?

              SCaddict · 29/03/2017 at 18:23

              If his back soreness/stiffness is fully 'gawn" he will definitely play. Percentage could be a huge thing this season, with so many teams vying for the 8, so you want to win and win big where you can.

              But in the unlikely event he is rested it will have his owners scrambling, especially those who boldy went into the season with no ruck cover.

                Juzzy · 29/03/2017 at 19:15

                I was not that bold.

                Unfortunately my ruck cover (Nank) is in my fwd line tomorrow night and Gawn plays Sunday.

                If Gawn doesn't play a lot with this cover won't be scrambling … they'll be screwed. Oh well, fingers crossed.

Jwill2bong · 29/03/2017 at 18:58

Higgins or Tmiller, moving roo on but looking for someone around 450k and under, need the cash.

Big fact hunt · 29/03/2017 at 19:30

I got nroo so have traded him to Gawn moving nank forward lucky I had a little cash to do this

Tommo09 · 29/03/2017 at 19:41

Who in for NRoo?
JJk? Dahl? Someone else?

    Youngy · 29/03/2017 at 20:36

    Roo = Nick Riewoldt (Saints)
    JJK = Josh Kennedy (West Coast)
    Dahl = Luke Dalhouse (Bulldogs)

    Others u might want to no

    God = Garry Ablett Jnr (Gold coast)
    JPK = Josh P Kennedy (Swans)
    Nank = Tom Nakervis (Richmond)
    SPP = Sam Powell-Pepper (Port)

    Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. If u need to no any other abbreviations just reply to this comment

    top hawk · 29/03/2017 at 20:36

    JJK all the way. Rhymes too.

Mother Cat · 29/03/2017 at 19:42

Probably not the forum, however I play and enjoy both SC and DT, the latter for the first time to fill my family's league. Does DT allow the Captain and emergency loophole?

    Phil · 29/03/2017 at 20:12

    No. Briefly in Round 1, there is a loophole but just to avoid the Carlton vs Richmond & rest of teams named fiasco.

Ben · 29/03/2017 at 20:18

Mason Cox is dropped :))))) Grundy is going to be OK thank god

    Moosehead · 30/03/2017 at 10:44

    Yes, best case scenario for us Grundy holders. I have never had him in my SC team before and selected him on his great finish to 2016 and he is young and fit, plus Championship data wrote that Magpies have the best midfield!! thus Grundy's taps have a fair chance of being grabbed by a Magpie mid. I don't always adhere to what Championsip data says, eg, they predicted a 2016 Crows-GWS GF.
    Luck VIP.

Youngy · 29/03/2017 at 20:23

Is it possible to leave a league to join a different one? As i am already in 10 leagues

    Russ in W.A · 29/03/2017 at 21:20

    Yeah mate, but not after leagues have officially started, it's on the list of things to do on the left of the page. If it's not possible cause league has been autofilled, then the option won't be there.

Macklemore · 29/03/2017 at 22:06

Best option for Reiwoldt, play it safe and trade to a Kennedy/Franklin/Macrae type, or risk a Higgins and bank the cash??

    Dac Zawson · 29/03/2017 at 23:53

    Depends what you're banking the cash for, if you think you may need to fix up some mid-price/rookie selections then Higgins may be alright. However it's too early in the season to be banking cash for the sake of it.
    JJK should average more than those options by R23 though

    Derek · 30/03/2017 at 09:54

    keeper for a keeper

Dean · 30/03/2017 at 00:00

Just it B/S that Gawn is suspended for 1 week?

alex · 30/03/2017 at 00:13

Do players prices change after round 2 or 3 ??????

    Dean · 30/03/2017 at 00:25

    Round 3 mate

      alex · 30/03/2017 at 07:48

      Cheers mate

Westy · 30/03/2017 at 07:52

No idea..
I got Vince suspended so I needed to put on otten or he need who may both be dropped.
Got reiwoldt and don't have Butler or Hannan
Also got Hanners in the guts…
Thinking of going drastic, Reiwoldt to Higgins and Otten to McGrath.
Means I fix the Def and don't need to cover Reiwoldt with Pickett/parfitt.
But I'll miss out on one of Butler Hannan next week.
Never traded round one… But these are crazy times.

    Derek · 30/03/2017 at 09:53

    Melb play late on Sunday. Gives you a chance to loophole one of your rookies see how they score before trading.

Wal · 30/03/2017 at 11:37

Thoughts on VC loophole options this week?

Pendles VC into Danger C, or
Danger VC into Fyfe C

DaBombers · 30/03/2017 at 19:07

Hey all.
If we are silly enough to chase the rookie corrections from round 1.
And we also plan 2-4 correction trades to go full premium.
Do we trade this week??
And if we do trade and our players are not part of thursdays game. Do we wait til Friday. When full teams are out??

I dont need any tiger or pie corrections til next week and that is only if hoskin-elliot fires again. Gonna give Tarranto one more week.
But think I could be up to 3 corrections and the math dont work.

    Webspyda · 31/03/2017 at 14:06

    Yes there will be a few frustrated coaches next week looking at the trades they should have done to allow the trades they need to do.

Moosehead · 30/03/2017 at 20:32

Champion data at it again. Treloar dominating with 30 SC points at half time??????????

Captain Risky · 30/03/2017 at 22:38

NANK 124 Legendary !!!
Real value for money.. And we beat collingwood… doesn't get much better πŸ™‚

    Luke · 31/03/2017 at 16:41

    Stick it up those Pies supporters. I've already started making plans for a Richmond grand final this year….

Luke · 31/03/2017 at 17:24

Jock, Higgo, Crouching one and Co. I have a Bombshell announcement and if you gave me the opportunity to reveal the secret of supercoach success I shall speak my words of wisdom with the one fundamental rule to the blueprint formula for maximum output. This is my 8th year for supercoach as I can remember. Back in 2010, When Michael Barlow (Freo) was a bargain rookie selection for round 1 for $130,000, who ended up averaging 116 for the year from 14 games in a row then broke his leg. Moving up to over $500,000. Back in 2009, Greg Broughton (Freo) was a bargain at $89,000, who ended up averaging 98.7 from 15 games. Brilliant work and dedication has driven this site to new heights and well done fellas. I'd be most humbled to appear on a News Segment on an upcoming Podcast to reveal my formula for success. My best year was ranked 615, Worst year around 14,000 mark. Nearly almost top 1% every year. Out of 250,000 plus Coaches not bad for a yearly output. This is Groundbreaking….

Dean · 31/03/2017 at 23:12

I hate saying it and even more so I hate doing it with elite premiums.
However im afraid I will be trading out hansonberries he just looks flat, he just is running like his usual self, it seems as though he is carrying a injury, think I will swap him for the BONT although don't be surprised if Libber makes top 10 midfielder come the end of the season. His confidence is growing week by week and tonight he was back to his best tackling like he did back in 2014.

Good luck all

Low hanging berries · 01/04/2017 at 15:13

Lots of rookie Supercoach this year. Rance traded out FFS. Deep end of gene pool people ….. get hand off berries nuff nuffs.

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