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SuperCoach RD1: The Heroes, The Villains, The Damned.

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The Supercoach heroes, the villains and the DAMNED of 2018

Footy’s back and isn’t it bloody magnificent, Community.

Plenty of talking points came out of this season’s opening round and there were some big upsets to boot.

The Power shocked the Swans at the SCG, Essendon did the business against the now-mortal Hawks, while Adelaide’s huge win over GWS raised a few eyebrows and proved the Giants are certainly not invincible.

Many SuperCoaches faced a battle to avoid some mediocre on-field scores from some of the popular rookie selections, with those who managed to dodge these bullets registering respectable totals.

Judging from the results I’ve seen, it looks like the 2200-2300 mark was around par.

Personally, I finished with 2338, which wasn’t bad considering I copped sub 60 scores from Hampton, Otten, Taranto and Stewart.

The Heroes

Those who picked gun West Coast full forward Josh Kennedy (174 SC) were handsomely rewarded when he smashed out a monster score on the back of 7 goals straight. Richmond’s Dustin Martin (159 SC) put on an absolute clinic on Thursday night, nailing 4 goals to go with his 33 touches which included one epic 75-metre torp. But keep in mind, he was only playing Carlton.

Dyson Heppell (152 SC) was enormous for the Bombers in their win over the Hawks with 34 possessions, including 16 contested, 3 goals and 7 tackles. He also went at a slick 82% efficiency. Partners in crime Zach Merrett (126 SC) and Brendon Goddard (123 SC) also enjoyed standout matches.

Adelaide’s Rory Laird (147 SC) could well finish this season as SuperCoach’s top defender if this display was anything to go by. He amassed 40 possessions at 85% efficiency in a brilliant performance. I find it staggering that more coaches have not started with the Rolls Royce Scott Pendlebury (146 SC). He was at his sublime best for Collingwood on Friday night, rewarding those who did pick him handsomely.

Tom Rockliff (137 SC) demonstrated playing alongside Dayne Beams will not hinder his output with an outstanding game for Brisbane, racking up a massive 37 touches, 23 of them contested. Patrick Dangerfield (138 SC) cemented his position as a perma-captaincy option, as if we didn’t know that already. Only had it 24 times, but 9 tackles and 3 goals helped boost his score.

Higgo’s left-field decision to go with Port bull Ollie Wines (125 SC) paid immediate dividends, while Swans Josh Kennedy (134 SC) and Buddy Franklin (125 SC) were their side’s two best players in their surprise loss. Marc Murphy (138 SC), Max Gawn (128 SC) and Jason Johannisen (126 SC) were others to enjoy impressive games.

 The Villains

Popular mid-price selections Jaeger O’Meara (71 SC) and Jarryd Roughead (73 SC) were both solid but somewhat underwhelming. Their owners will be hoping they improve as the season goes on after coming back from extended stints out of the game.

Port’s Robbie Gray (38 SC) copped a knee to the head early in the match which hindered his output, finishing with just 8 touches. A decision by Sydney’s Dan Hannebery (52 SC) to get off the piss during the off season doesn’t seem to be working at the minute, as he had an absolute stinker and struggled to find the footy.

Those who took the plunge and went in with Tom Hickey (44 SC) in the ruck would have been bitterly disappointed as he was towelled up by Maxy Gawn. Alex Rance (59 SC) and Patrick Cripps (50 SC) were both very disappointing on Thursday night, but will get better as the season progresses.

The Prodigies

Caleb Marchbank (97 SC), Dan Butler (96 SC) and Mitch Hannan (96 SC) were the standout rookie performers and their owners should be starting them onfield next week based on these performances. Essendon defender Andrew McGrath (83 SC) has significant SuperCoach pedigree and showed he can shine on the big stage after an underwhelming JLT series, while those who went with Will Hoskin-Elliott (88 SC) in their forward lines over Tim Taranto would have been smiling smugly.

Gold Coast small forward Ben Ainsworth (79 SC) looked at home at AFL level, however fellow debutant Jack Bowes (64 SC) was a little quieter. Sam Powell-Pepper (78 SC) boosted his score with 2 goals, while Power team-mate Dan Houston (72 SC) is also shaping as a good pick. Sam Petrevski-Seton (59 SC) showed some good signs for the Blues and has a truckload of talent.

The Damned

While some rookies repaid the faith, plenty of others put up disappointing performances and are at risk of being omitted this week. Depending on selections, correction trades may need to be made before all our rooks hit the bubble in round 3.

Sydney’s Oliver Florent (44 SC) and GWS’ Tim Taranto (44 SC) struggled to get up to the pace of AFL footy and could be dropped next week after finishing with only 8 and 13 touches respectively. North rookies Mitch Hibbard (23 SC), Jy Simpkin (35 SC), Declan Mountford (43 SC) and Brayden Pruess (44 SC) all looked raw and overawed by the occasion against a rampant West Coast side.

Adelaide pair Andy Otten (45 SC) and Curtly Hampton (50 SC) were both under par but look to have done enough to hold their spots next week. Those who started popular Brisbane selection Jake Barrett (46 SC) on field would have been disappointed, after he gathered just 11 possessions at 54% efficiency. Despite Port’s big win, Brett Eddy (30 SC) failed to hit the scoreboard while Carlton’s Jarrod Pickett (29 SC) is also be facing the axe after failing to get near it on Thursday night.

Premo forward Nick Riewoldt (105 SC) performed as expected, but the bad news for his owners is he has a knee injury which will put him out for around 4 weeks, meaning he will need to be traded out immediately. Ironically, Riewoldt also fell on Melbourne debutant Joel Smith (23 SC), who dislocated his shoulder. He will need to be traded out also.

What are your thoughts about Supercoach Round 1?

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Dnoyes

Swallow was my main villain. How dare he get himself injured without me realising.

Box

Anyone know how bad the ankle is?

Lazza

If he doesn't play this week he will definitely play R3… it was only a rolled ankle at trainng

Skindog

Off to a great start, Gotta trade already, bye st Nick,,,,,now to pick a replacement, at least i can get anyone,,,,

The Blacksheep

St Kilda are reporting he will be out for only a week or 2. I am going to hold if thats the case.

Kev

Reports this morning suggest 1-2 weeks for Roo http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-27/riewoldt-may-

Skindog

He'll still be sketchy i think, trade anyway before he drops coin,,,,,

Jeffreyhead

He wont drop until he's played 3

Tim Smith

how will he drop in coin?

Rooster XXX

Given he raised the bat for a 100 before getting injured he isn't likely to have a massive BE heading into his 3rd game. Fact is if you hold him means he is a keeper so his value is irrelevant.

Jib_Jib

I'm worried about the resulting drop in form once he comes back, I bought him in to smash out big scores pre-bye. Having big doubts about whether he'll do that now.

Burnmen

Once playing again he will score just fine, he is a real war horse.

Jib_Jib

Something to dwell on

SCB

They are reporting now 1-2 weeks for NR.

Boof

What's the best strategic move with Joel Smith? Thinking I might try to hold him until the Round 3 bubble just to see if a likely candidate emerges (come on down Zach Guthrie!). Any other thoughts?

WhatsaFtumch

I'm thinking the same Boof, there just don't seem to be any standout rookie defenders (already have Marchbank), possibly considering downgrading Taranto to Hannan and upgrading Smith to McGrath the week after depending on scores this week

INPieman

Whatever you do collect 2 weeks of data & wait until teams are announced for round 3

Josh

Pieman, thoughts on ditching Hampton and McCarthy for Hannan and Zac Jones. Around top 500 after Rd 1. Hannan for cash generation and Jones for points

INPieman

I said this to someone on a previous thread. If your trading to get Zak Jones in you have to be confident he's a top 8 defender & keep him. You don't want to bring him in & then get rid of him again. I'm sure that would come back to bite. Personally I'm not convinced. Give Hampton another week. That was a manic game. I'd have no hesitation in going McCarthy to Hannan if Hannan can back up his round 1 performance. But! Don't do it till he's definitely lining up in round 3 & will about to make money

Tim Smith

If you haven't already get Hannan if not just wait

Jib_Jib

I used my DDP rookies to bring in Butler (already have Hannan)

James

WIth the lack of quality rookies this season is it unreasonable to consider swapping Roo for Hoskin-Elliot and pocketing $350k and saving it for a future upgrade? Scored 2350 this week so off to a decent start, but with having to burn two trades already on Roo and Smith going down its bittersweet.

Dan

Roo is a keeper so maybe cover him with ur bench cos saying he's only out for 1-2 weeks.

oldmate65

Is it a good idea to trade Rance?
Also should I use a trade to get a better rookie?

Thanks.

King

I'd keep him. He will probably just outscore whoever you bring in for him next week.

jez_m

Hold your premium selections if they aren't injured like Riewoldt. Back them to bounce back.

Holty

I wont be surprised if he scores 150 this week

Lucas

Anyone know how long swallow will be out for?

damo

Nah he's working at the servo with damo

King

Anyone know if Hannabry is carrying injury or whether he just flopped. Watched the game and it may just be me,but he didn't seem 100 per cent. Don't want to waste trade if it was just a bad game,but if his not right….

Rick Grimes

I just don't think the game flowed his way. I fully expect he'll smash this weekend.

FistingAction

I was at the game and he looked I'll/exhausted as difany of the swans boys.

I was thinking horse may have flogged them with a bit too much fitness in the last week, expect banners to bounce back

jez_m

That was a very uncharacteristic Hannebery performance, so I wouldn't read too much into it. He'll come good.

bentleigh

Swallow stuffed me up. He needs to get over his injury and then Riewoudlt gets injured. Hopefully its not 10 weeks but its predicted it will take the full amount but there isn't any structural damage.

Lucas

Really

INPieman

20's 30's & 40's all over the bench. That's not good. Hibbo Jnr looks like he'll struggle to make his BE!!!

@t_woof

It's disgusting isn't it INP.

INPieman

It is TWoof. But for most of them it was their first game of AFL footy & round 1 is intense. Hopefully they can do a bit better this week. But it's fair to say we are not looking at a batch of prolific scorers

@t_woof

That's a fair point re first game. Perhaps we have been spoilt in the past, and have high expectations.

Harvey

Should I trade J. Smith to Hannan or Houston (through DPP)?

INPieman

Hannan. But wait till he'son the bubble & named for round 3. You don't want to get burnt again. Use his as a loophole this week if possible

jez_m

Agree. If you have Otten, Stewart and Smith in defence, put Smith on field and see how Otten scores v Hawthorn. If Otten scores poorly, move Smith onto your DEF bench and bring Stewart onto the field.

INPieman

Bang on Jez

Soothsayer

This is the kind of gold plated wisdom I come here for Jez, def strategy bang on using the fixture. Nice work,

Jason

Im thinking of doing the same , maybe this week but most likely next week . Smith to Hannan , via DPP – Hibberd to DEF , Parfitt to Mid .

Youngster

I might have to go early on that trade as having Picket or Eddy on field does not seem wise. If either of them gets dropped this week, I'll have to make a trade or get a donut. Since Smith is 100% cooked, trading him either this week or next seems like a must.

Harvey

Same here, I don't want to play Pickett/Eddy on field so might fast forward the trade.

Jib_Jib

Ideally you should wait until they are on the bubble, but with a BE of -124 I'm comfortable pulling the trigger on a trade to Butler this week. Obviously that comes with risk that Butler could be injured or dropped before rd 3. Normally I'd wait till he was on the bubble but because rd2 is the last round to do proper corrective trades, I'm prepared to take the risk to ensure I have maximum flexibility available for rd 2 corrective trades next week (if they are required).

Steeeve

Normally I'd never trade this week. And I certainly won't panic trade now.
HOWEVER, I might need to make more than two rookie corrections. And therefore I will consider making one or two this week. It's a risk, but some of my rookies are almost certainties to be dropped anyway. And I don't have Hannan.

When it comes to a Taranto v Hoskin-Elliot move, I'd recommend sticking with Taranto for now. Hibberd v Hannan? Not so much.

SCaddict

You do have to be a little cautious with the Rd1 corrections. A kid who impressed in the opener can look like spud city the following week. And the kid who can't find it in his first game suddenly seems to remember how to play footy and bangs out an 80 in his next. Rookies by there very nature can be quite inconsistent, up one week then down the next and vice versa.

Remember the Rd2 scoring is twice as important for price changes as Rd1 so waiting for two weeks of data and only making decisions then is usually preferable for form based corrections. Trust me I know how hard it is to stick to that advice ha ha.

Steeeve

Exactly, these r1 scores will hardly affect anybody's price. It's the job security we need to worry about.

I remember a couple of years back heaps of people traded out a young Patrick Cripps for Nathan Van Berlo to make a quick buck as the price was first set to change. By the end of the season Van Berlo hadn't moved (and was no certainty to hold his spot) whilst Cripps was pumping out 100 after 100.

INPieman

Or you could have done something even worse. I traded Touk Miller on the back of his 2 x 30's to Van berlo. 2 months later Miller was over 400K!!!! That was a lesson

@t_woof

Nightmares INP!

I did the exact same thing. Healthy reminder!

INPieman

Seemed like a good idea at the time TWoof

Steeeve

Yep Cripps maxed out at even higher. And many kept him for the SC finals because he was scoring so well and they needed to use the trades elsewhere.
Could Taranto pull a similar trick???

Seth

so who should i keep
Taranto
WHE
Hampton
Otten
Barrett?
Not too confident with Taranto and Barrett so should I really keep them?

jez_m

Keep them for one more week. Too early to be making correctional trades unless players are injured.

SCaddict

Yeah I have those guys too Seth (other than WHE who played well of course) as do many coaches. At this stage I plan to give them all another week unless one or two get dropped`this Thursday in which case I may reconsider.

So let's see how they go this weekend and then we can weed out the greatest spuds and bring in the best rookie performers after 2 rounds. Will be trying my darnest not to pull a rookie swap this week if I can help it.

Steeeve

If say Hibberd gets dropped this week I'll consider an early corrective. Will allow me two trades before the price jump. So I could then go Taranto to WHE should Taranto struggle mightily and WHE play well again. Main factor being WHE seems to have better job security. Plus one up my sleeve in case of LTI, or a second correctional (Pickett to Hannan may be needed).

BlakeyP

WHE had better JS before R1 and still chose Taranto over him. You chose him for a reason at least give him 2 weeks

Burnmen

Keep all of them.

Taranto is a possibility to get rid of after this week.

Was always a possible burn man with a high price and depth at GWS bad for his JS. In a few weeks he won't even be playing imo.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Just about every rook was a villain – GnR – pick the wrong G like hannas and goodnight.
Where are the $ gonna come from to upgrade? 30's on the bench – yikes. Maybe just one game to adjust, get used the big stuff. But stuff me yesterday was a complete whitewash for the rooks.

I saw enough on Sat to realise I made a huge mistake and didn't start Gawn.
Pretty much 130 in 3 qtrs.
Gonna bring him in this week I reckon as if the Nank can score 110 against Kruz what is Gawn gonna do to them?
Choices:
Oliver in the mids (a mid $380k or less) (SPP on bench) upgrade Ryder to Gawn. Turner at F6.
or
Bring SPP onto the ground at M8, swing Ryder fwd and upgrade fwd rookie to Gawn.

Think I Iike option 2?

In league news:
Trig's Happy Place inside top 50 leagues thanks to BVC who had both Butler and Hannan on the ground! Big plums my man.

INPieman

If the rookies keep scoring 30's Trig we will need to find other ways to make money! Fortune favours the brave. Every year I sacrifice an underperformer for someone about to skyrocket. And this year that move looks more important than ever. It's just a matter of who gets there head cut off. I don't have Gawn but he looks ominous. I may need to compromise with the gods on him

Youngster

This is really good advice Pieman. It's shaping up that I might have to cull an under performing premo and rookie to get two cash/point generators like Steele & Beams.

Always a risk but sheesh, with no money in the bank and rookies looking like being dropped, I really need to consider the options.

INPieman

It's daring move youngster. And you need to make sure you get 2 extra premos before the pack do. The first time I did was 3 years ago. The man to go was Cotchin. The man in was his team mate Anthony Miles. He was on the bubble at about 250K but had scored 2 tonnes. I was able to replace Miles at 420K a few weeks later with a fallen Premo & the excess cash gave me 2 upgrades ahead of the pack. I picked Bartel & Griffin & both had underwhelming seasons. And Griffin is just underwhelming in general. If I had of got the picks right who know what would have happened

Youngster

Thanks for the insight Pieman, very clever if you can pull it off. I'm not that clever, so maybe I'll sit back and see if I really need to do something drastic like this.

Shake n bake

Going out Sat nite really hurt didnt know swallow was a late out so got pickett score as emg also started Smith on the field and he didnt make it to qtr time. Still managed to score just over 2200. Nearly started with Oliver as my only mid option in my mids but went Swallow to save coin. Alot of what ifs but would av made that change if l knew. Well alot to think about before rd 2 gets under way!

John James

Going against what most people seem to think,I like the first option,Oliver could end up a keeper at M8 by the end,at $382,500,even if he only gets 90 most weeks will still be good value, Ryder to Gawn is a no brainer

Burnmen

Shhhh don't encourage anyone to do such bold moves that actually could pay off. It's not in the rule book!

Steeeve

PS thanks the SC gods I traded Rance to Shaw and Cripps to Treloar before the first bounce. Didn't quite scrape 2200 even with those moves.

Ollie

I play for ranking and don't want to field a rookie for nick roo because who knows how long he'll be out for and if he'll be Hampered by it

Should I bring in like
Miller, Steele, hogan or wingard and hope I pick the right one because I think 2 of them will be keepers

Or just go someone like buddy, jjk or lynch

INPieman

If it's 1 or 2 I'd keep him Ollie. However there's no guarantee on it. If I was going to trade him from the blokes you've listed I'd go Jack Steele. It will give you a warchest & I think we all need one. On top of that Steele should escalate in price making that a very profitable trade

jez_m

Go for a premium selection rather than a speculative pick. Of the four you mentioned, Steele looks like he could finish as a top 8-10 forward, but we're only basing that on one good game. Go with a tried and tested premo.

Abel

Steele

Burnmen

I'd only consider Miller or Steele of the first two, possibly Hogan as a left field POD (higher risk)

Miller scored really well late last year, and those contested numbers are promising.

Steele with his club and role change seems to be thriving, glad I got him at this point.

Wouldn't go near Wingard.

The others are tried and tested. I probably wouldn't look at Miller or Lynch till after the round 9 bye though.

Matt

Look if you really don't want to hold him which is fair enough there are no rookies that could ever match the big blondey Saint. Steele is solid but I'd back Wingard. He's a proven performer, rough pagch last year with injuries and an overall lack of zeal in Port Team. However port looking better than they have and Wingard will definitely be a large part of that. Also getting more midfield minutes can only do well for him. But I'm a Port fan so 🙂

Captain Risky

Geez looking like it's going to be hard to make a few dollars this year and save trades.

As good as Hannan and Butler were, I can't see them being consistent. A few appreciating mid pricers / stepping stones seems vital at this stage. Hopefully Steele, Nank and the like keep scoring well.
I'm hoping O'mera and Beams will be better for the run. Oliver looks tempting, if he has another good game he might find his way into my team, and SPP will be on the pine. Wouldn't mind finding a way to get Hampton on the bench either…
I'm just holding everything for another week and seeing what happens round 2. Gotta love it that the footy is back though.

Youngster

It's fair to say we're all scratching our heads as to where the coin is going to come from to "paint the fence"

Kev

Agree Ricky, Butler had very similar stats in JLT1 (75SC), then managed a 53 and 45. If he puts up an 80 against the Pies this week it'll be tough not to get him for cash gen, but I'm not falling over myself to bring him at this stage.

Similar story with Pickett. 5 touches and 26 in JLT1. Managed 86 in JLT3

Kev

Ouch!

INPieman

Oh boy Holty. Oh Boy. But Cripps & Rance will come good. There too good not to

Holty

True. They will come good but i may have underestimated Cripps limited preseason. He just looked a bit out of sorts which isnt surprisingly after his back issues.

INPieman

He missed 3 months with a back injury. You've got him now & will have to be patient

Randomcliche2

Cut your losses now! It's an 80 point + trade correcrive mistake if you fix it now! There will be too much rookie carnage to del with after this week!

Lucas

Will david swallow play this week? Please??

Youngy

I think he will play

Danners

Just looking on the Gold Coast website found the article on him not playing and it mentioned "The West Australian did everything possible to prove his fitness ahead of QClash13, but the SUNS have opted against risking the 24-year-old with a long season ahead." Should play by the looks of it

Soothsayer

Thank you Danners!

Rivo

Picket and Swallow on field gave me an ok 2213. Picket straight to the pine, so now what to do with Swallow & J. Smith?

Option 1 – Hold and use Parfitt or Barrett as cover?
Option 2 – Swallow & Smith to McGrath & Ainsworth?

Phat Man

I'm pretty sure swallow is right to play this week so I would hold him until Thursday if he isn't selected

jez_m

Option 1

Rivo

Thanks Jez. Concerned over Taranto also, though think most rookies will be safe for another week at least. Digits crossed.

jez_m

No harm in waiting the extra week. They might not score great, but lots of people have the same rookies

Yoda

Did anyone else get burned by the premature lockout for the GC v Brisbane game? Tried to trade out Swallow about 20 minutes before 1st bounce, but he was already locked. Wasn't happy. I have no faith in the mobile site now.

jez_m

I wasn't affected by that thankfully, but SuperCoach and Champion Data had an absolute shocker this weekend. Totally unacceptable. What was more disappointing was that they didn't even let everyone know what was happening even when it was clear there were issues.

Zee888

I was the same Yoda… but i just waited 10 minutes and got in fine with 10 minutes to spare. Made my trade and was happy.

SCaddict

About 70,000 caches still have Swallow so I'm guessing many got caught out by that lockout balls up and just gave up before it was corrected. With live scoring also stuffed up the wazoo the SC game custodians really need to lift their game in Rd2. Otherwise droves of coaches may end up defecting next season to a DT comp instead. Just wasn't good enough by a long stretch.

INPieman

It was a shocking weekend for the HS & Champoin Data SCA. They could have taken to social media to blame Telstra. But they didn't even bother to do that

Yoda

I'm hoping that means they'll get 70,000 angry emails & actually fix the problem before round 2.

Beastiano

I couldnt rectify my swallow selection either on desktop or mobile app, was saying game players were locked 45 minutes before actual game start. I just accepted that thanks to Telstra, my season was over by the first saturday. Had smith, barrett on field also so weekend just went from bad to worse. Only scraped out a paultry 2079. No chance to make up lost rnd 1 points with this years crop. GnR seems to be a long way off this year.

Michael

I'm really keen on trading Pickett this week after a stinker of a game and I'm sure that he will be dropped. Who would the best trade be considering I have 120 k in the bank. I already have Butler Eddy and Cameron

redgumwon

I'd be waiting one more week and see on Pickett and the other rookies when they are on the bubble. Carlton are going to play the kids again this year. Who knows Pickett could come out and score well this week. The other advantage is atm Pickett is one of the few DDP rookies playing. He's useful just sitting another week on the bench if you have move players about?

INPieman

Completely agree with Redgum. The Blues traded a first round draft pick to GWS for the keys to Marchbank & Pickett. The Blues are not exactly flush with goal kicking options either. Pickett will get plenty of opportunity & bob up a reasonable score every now & then. Give him another week & reassess

Steeeve

I had high hopes when I saw Pickett named on the wing. And then… ugh

Finnigin

Mcgra is a keeper , poise polish and just getting Walm , thoughts?

Burnmen

Talking about a rookie being a keeper after one game lol.

I didn't see the game but his stats look reasonable.

finnigin

number one draft pick for good reason , jump on and have yourself a keeper

Burnmen

Depends what you qualify as a keeper I suppose. I am considering doing a corrective trade for him next week though.

Burnmen

If he gets a 40 next week will he still be considered a keeper though?

Tony

After a couple uncomfortable nights of tossing and turning on him, I think keeping Rance in the side, who plays a much better side in Collingwood this weekend is the way to go. Very pleased with Wines, JPK and Danger in the midfield but O'Meara is on the chopping block if he can't perform this weekend. What do you reckon about possible moves for Oliver, and maybe downgrading Treloar to Murphy for some extra cash?

redgumwon

Remember Rance got away to a injury interrupted preseason. I'd expect Rance to improve. Oliver might be the go but I'd like to see him for another week. Miller at GC is in the same basket

Swans2012

Omeara with 3 behinds and I think a couple of frees against (from memory) didn't do himself any favours, if he nails a couple of those goals then bang its closer to 90 and we are happy. I reckon he'all be right but we'll see…..
Please do not mention downgrading Treloar again, this crazy talk

WhatsaFtumch

If you picked Treloar as a keeper (and I'm guessing you did – I certainly did) then no, downgrading to Murphy for cash is not a good move…Treloar had 33 touches, 8 marks, 3 tackles and a bloody good goal on Friday night…still not sure how he only scored 96! (he scored 125 in DT and AFL Fantasy by the way)

In his last 3 games of 2016 he scored 148, 131 and 146 (in SC)! Find another way to generate cash!

INPieman

Trade Treloar! I've heard it all now. I am a Pendles owner & I agree Treloar was stiff not to get a 120+. But so was Jelwood last night. Another case of robbery. Anyway you don't trade gun mids unless they are injured

Burnmen

O'meara and Treloar out after one round………………………….

jez_m

O'Meara will come good – that was his first proper AFL game in over two years and he had the sixth-most pre-clearance possessions of any player over the weekend (according to Fantasy Freako on Twitter). As for trading Treloar down to Murphy… well I'm not even going to validate that question with an answer.

SCDamien

What should I do with Nick Riewoldt? I also have Teia Miles stuck in my M11 position. and Hibberd probably not going to make any money on my defence bench.

Jib_Jib

Wait until the teams are made before making any decisions about non-injured rookies.

I have the same issue with Riewoldt, tossing up between a straight swap for Kennedy/Buddy/Lynch or downgrading to Nank/Steele.

Conundrums

Community i am in a bit of strife…
Socred well last week and happy to hold my players, but only have 2.9k in the war chest and have Joel Smith and Taranto.
Definitely will give Taranto another go this week and can hold Smith for a week.
But the thing is i dont have enough money to trade Taranto to a McGrath/WHE if he spuds it again!
Also do not have Hannan.
What does the community suggest is the best path of action??

SCaddict

Having a bit of wriggle room with some sort of bank comes in handy for exactly these sorts of situations otherwise your options can be quite limited with a maxed out salary cap. So definitely something to bear in mind for next season as rarely aren't there some sort of issues to patch up in the first few rounds.

However do you have Hibberd on your mid bench? If so you can probably DPP trade out Smith and bring in either a mid or maybe even a forward rookie like Hannan. That wouldn't cost you a dime as both Smith and Hannan are priced the same.

Conundrums

No unfortunately he's in my DEF, really regret starting doch over Shaw or Simpson 🙁

@t_woof

Doc will be fine, i have him also.

Nothing to say he couldn't come out and score better than Simmo and Shaw this round.

SCdummy

How exactly do u do that given that Smith is not DPP?

Burnmen

If Hibberd is in midfield, trade out Smith, move Hibberd back creating a spot in the midfield. From there you can trade in a mid or move someone like Pickett/Parfitt into mids, opening up a spot in the forward.

Beezneez

Can't move Hibberd back unless you substitute him for a def/mid DPP?

Burnmen

This is about trading out smith.

Burnmen

*If Pickett/Parfitt are in your forward line

Northernsoul74

One of Newman or Hayward likely to catch me in for Swans along with Allir Allir.

Shake n bake

Dont be surprised if 2 or 3 of the rookies mostly selected dont play this week!

SCaddict

Indeed there could be one or two omissions although it's always tricky to forecast what AFL clubs will do. I think the vast bulk of them will play at the least the first few games. However we could definitely see a few of the poorer performers sent back to the twos at some point and thus ending up on the Supercoach trash heap in the first month of the season.

This rookie pain we're feeling right now may get even worse in the weeks ahead.

Jason

I'm in some strife started poorly with a 2150 and now I have Joel smith out with a 2-0-6 defence I have a 100k in the bank so should I go smith to mcGgath this is the rest of my defence

Shaw, howe, marchbank, Hampton, Stewart, otten (smith, hibberd)
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated!

Burnmen

Maybe wait till this weeks teams are up and make a decision. McGrath probably is your only option. 2-0-6 structure was always suicide.

jez_m

I'd wait one more week. Use Smith as a loophole for Otten/Stewart this weekend.

Tommo09

Who do I trade Smith out for?
Have 160k and no swing
Have Hampton, Otten, Stewart, Hibberd
Hold???

SCaddict

Yeah you may need to hold this week Tommo. At least you could use Smith to emergency loophole one of the Crows boys this weekend. It's a small benefit but at least something.

If you don't have either Marchbank or McGrath then you could consider upgrading to one of them next week if they have another solid game this weekend. Might be a tad premature to commit to that kind of spend this week though. Unfortunately you are just short of Jones who looks like he could be set for a breakout season.

Tommo09

I could trade Strnadica to Preuss/Cameron and use Smith as a loophole

SCaddict

Something to consider although I wouldn't do that if you have Nank/Ryder in your forward line or plan to move them there at some point.

Again would definitely wait to see how Preuss goes next week just in case he gets dropped for Rd3. Also if he scores poorly again he may not be the best cow anyway so you may be better served keeping Strained Dick and working something else out. Don't particularly rate the JS of Cameron either but let's see what happens at the selection table first and then you can get more focused on a particular course of action.

Tommo09

I don't have either nank or Ryder but I will probably just hold this week
Thanks SCaddict

frogger

The temptation will always be there to make wholesale changes if things didn't go your way in rd 1, but we chose our teams for a reason and our premos for the season.
Currently plan to keep faith with rookies chosen (selection pending) and loop with J Smith down back this week in order to make a more informed decision next week. (That carries its own risk, limits to two pre-price-rise correctives.)
Let's all hope to Christ some of the underperforming rooks extract the digit.
Right now, midpricer strategies have bolted out to an early five-length lead.

daniel

Mid-pricer always performs better early. The difficulty with mid-price is (a) picking the guys that appreciate enough to be a stepping stone (or stay a keeper) and (b) having enough cash to get to full upgrade (which can happen if a few of your mid-pricers don't fire).

TRIGGER HAPPY

news:

Rampe just broke his arm at training – poor bugger expected to be out for 6 weeks
does this bring Newman into frame for a call up?

Bock Choy

Spewing this forces me into an early trade. I've found Rampe a defensive rock in recent years, regularly scoring solid points.

Nick

Thoughts on downgrading roughy to Steele? Grab some cash.

Burnmen

20K? No. Not after one round.

If Steele looks to continue his midfield time and scoring capability next round and you want him on the bubble then consider.

Steeeve

… and even then think long and hard about it. Everyone jumped on Hall at the same point last season and were burned.

Burnmen

True.

Although I'd rather a majority midfield player than a KPP in my forward line personally, and Reiwoldt is long in the tooth.

Early corrections can be vital but you certainly don't want to jump the gun.

Baggy Pants

Nick I was at the game and was surprised Steele scored so highly, maybe because he was one of the best of a bad lot. I have him in my side but am not confident he will be consistent.
He didn't seem too play with any intensity, wait one more week on trading Roughy

Burnmen

O'Meara 23 touches (14 contested) 8 clearances and 3 behinds and only 76% TOG.

Gotta look further into it than his 71 points. There is a lot of potential there.

By seasons end I expect him to be scoring 90-120, he is an SC beast.

Prediction – Jaeger O'Meara Hawthorn's best inside midfielder by season's end if he stays fit.

Lach

Can't put him above titch imo.. he starred.

Burnmen

Not near Titch at the moment.

Burnmen

I never actually put him above Titch by the way.

My prediction was he'd be the best Hawthorn INSIDE midfielder by season's END if he stayed fit.

Which means he'll get more clearances and will have a higher contested vs uncontested ratio.

Titch will still be getting bigger possession numbers.

Danners

Wow big call, I thought he did play better than 71 Supercoach points, but I still kind of get a inkling that could be your name, a burnman

Burnmen

I just don't rate Titch as a quality user of the ball. Ball magnet though yes.

O'meara could be a burnman but for 300K the risk is worth it imo.

Kevdog

Should I trade Roo to JJK, or hold ?

Burnmen

Did you want JJK before his big score on the weekend?

Kevdog

Had JJK as an upgrade target.

Burnmen

Depends how long Roo will be out I guess.

Luke

A lot of Potential to stain the underpant on mine and every other persons team. He Butchered it all night I watched the game

Burnmen

Didn't Tom Mitchell and Langford butcher it all night too?

Imgonnalose

2239 for me I'm happy with that even with priddis and Sloane stinking it up as my two main pods

Youngy

Great write up Carlos.

Had Butler onfield over Pickett until I saw the teams, thought pickett being named in the guts was the better option.

That was my biggest burn, 60+ points down the drain

The BONT

Supercoach is so much harder this year I got 2,143 and im coming 40,000 overall

Kev

From memory there was 220,000 odd playing last year. 185k now. SuperCoach needs a shakeup

Holty

Or they have had a crack down with people using multiple accounts.

Burnmen

Went with R1 Sandi (107) R2 Witts (81) and R3 Cameron.

Also have Nank (114) in forward line for back up. Very happy with one round, not counting my chickens just yet though.

Roughly an 890K investment on the three who played, really need Witts to hold that ruck spot until the round 9 bye.

Juzzy

A Saints official interviewed on SEN today.

" We are hoping Nick will only miss 2 weeks , but it may be more depending on his recovery".

1 week in this would normally be a hold but with Eddy and Pickett as cover ….
Think I am going to have to trade to Kennedy, Franklin, Macrae, Greene etc.. just so I can sleep for the next few weeks.

SCaddict

It's certainly going to be damn painful to hold, no doubt about it. Hopefully Pickett and/or Eddy will have a better week but in no way can you rely on them to even give you 50 each. So I can certainly appreciate the temptation to jump ship given it is a knee injury and 2 weeks may end up being optimistic. Tough call I'm very grateful not to have to make.

Liam

Trading Roo but don't know who to go to.
Have Dahl and Macrae as premos.

Brad

Surely Kennedy or Lynch

hedski

Or Buddy…

Scotland

What about Touk Miller?

Liam

Buddy sounds good. Cheers Hedski.

Rick

T.Miller then strengthen your defence 😉

Brad

Is it to early to Drop Cripps for someone like Rockcliff or Martin. Or give him another chance?

Youngy

Yes it is to early.

Juzzy

It's just one round.

Think you have to hold guys like Cripps, Hanners, Gray, even Hickey at this early stage.

Steeeve

Nope he will finish the season as a keeper and this one bad score will hardly affect his price anyway due to the three-week price cycle.

Randomcliche2

I'm of the opinion that you don't start guys with a limited preseason. Correct that error at the cost of a few points and a trade now.

Nick

I will get Cripps in when he bottoms out. He will be in top 8 by years end. His underdone

Holty

Hold brad. I have him and wont trade him. We picked him for a reason. He will come good

Tommo09

Also, should I go Roo to JJK?

Thommo88

You going for overall bud? Kennedy is up or down although last year scored more then any forward overall (roo played 1 less game giving himbetter avg).

Tommo09

Yeah for overall

Lach

This is a complete repeat from last year… a key forward gets injured and everyone brings in the big kennedy to which he turns to an inconsistent stain for coaches… he'll probs still make top 8 forwards.

Luke

Overall pretty happy with my side. Overall Rank: 6307, Score for the Round: 2256 …I had JJ Kennedy 176, Hogan 120, Nankervis 114, Steele 113, Higgins 111 all in forward line. Gawn 128, Martin 159, Dangerfield 138, Wines 125, T Mitchell 116, J Kelly 105… were some good choices

Westy

Ranking wise, it's all pretty close at the moment. I got 2267, but am ranked 4841.

Jordan

Sloane to Heppell
Taranto to nankervis ??
And yes I know it's too early to be trading

Burnmen

Another troll?

Thommo88

Considering Roo to steel.
Midfield Rookie to Murphy

Allowing 2 rookie correction trades next week had a stinker week

Traded out swallow for Mccarthy through DPP to free up coin before Qclash.

Risk involved but with underperforming rookies am considering.

hedski

Yeah so with all the shit rookies I'm trading Gawn and Danger down to Witts and WHElliot, banking nearly a mil and then upgrading 4 crap rooks to 4 awesome midpricers over the next couple weeks so only 2 rookies on field…….
Bwaa ha ha ha.

Seb

Hahahahhaha

Randomcliche2

Yeah I reckon a full premo mid reads Murphy Crouch Heppel Watson Armitage Omeara Swallow Oliver. Get em while they're hot…or at least luke warm :p I'd write a fwd one too but Nostradames says too close to print.

BigGAbonza

Actually this works. In 3 weeks time, my team could be finished.

hedski

Please don't it was a joke mate.
(Did I just fall for the bait back?)