Round 1 Supercoach Fat Chew
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Who to put VC on..rocky or Ablett?
Ablett
Gaj all the way ser
I understand clangers take away points etc etc, but how in the fkn fck can you tell me that Treloar can get 96 off a game like that? Howe and Adams also robbed and then Bont with 8 kicks 120? Gonna be a long year
I was staggered as well BigBoy! Was on the way home from Hoppers Crossing last night feeling pretty bloody pleased with myself with the VC on Treloar.. 96! Ah well
Was feeling the exact same Jock 🙁
Compare Butler's 96 with Treloars,what a friggen joke
Jock think we need an inquiry into our champion data friends this w/end…. not sure if they are trying new software but something has been completely off this weekend…. players are scoring well, then losing 20-30 points to only get it back again at games end… perfect example was Laird today, was 30+ near the end of the first, dropped back to 18 halfway through the second when he had 17 touches, only to finish hte game on 112 with 40+ and then get adjusted to 147.. he isnt the only one… something suggests they have been on the Collingwood party bus….
At one stage he had something like 13 disposals for 27 points. I watched the first half and saw maybe one clanger. Otherwise pretty clean. There were blokes with 5 possessions and 60 points. Can't fathom how they scored that game. Really have doubts over the scoring accuracy.
Same thing just happened with the saints game
How the propeller heads come up with some of these scores has baffled me for years .. it seems that if you are a popular player with the media it is easy to score big, if not you can have 30, kick 3 and lay 5 tackles and yet only get a lowly 70-80 points. On the other hand, players like Cyril get points for going to the interchange bench and some more when he comes back on!!
Haha yes Kenny, watch Cyril score 90 points tonight against Dons for kicking 2 cheap goals and having 0 impact on the win. Whereas players like Treloar trying their guts out all night trying to get the Pies back in it score 90 odd off 33 touches
Sounds good
I somewhat agree, BBB. Seems much more goes into it than effective/ineffective possessions. Would love some transparency. I didn't think Treloar was stand out amazing last year, tough to argue 33p (20 kicks) @72% isn't worthy of at least a ton though
Exactly Kev, hoping for at least some consistency this year or else I may have to resort back to selecting players who Champion Data froth over (Rance, Bont etc)
Agree BigBoy. Standard Champ Data rort.
That's what you get for picking Treloar over Pendles…. Karma is a biatch! 146 VC…. yyeeoooow!!!
Dee is the guy who has one player go good for round 1, then flames out mid year when he's made all his trades to correct the rest of his trash.
🙂
Could be scoring chains? Also there are bonus points for big plays when game is close… Bont always finds himself in position to get these.
I'll start by saying treloar and Adams were mugged by champion data last night :(((
Adams butchered it all night. Trelosr stiff though
Well you can tell who the champion data lads do & don't have in their teams
Feeling the rookie pressure today. Bowes, Simpkin or Florent ? Houston, Eddy or Hannan ? Hibberd, Stewart or Otten ?
taking into account job security and price, with the first 3 I'd go Sympkin over Bowes. With the second 3 Hannan is too unknown for me. Eddy will play almost every week and is rock bottom, Houston might get three weeks tops early on. Of the last 3 take them all if you can however Stewart has best JS followed by Hibberd Otten could be in and out all year
Florent, Hibberd, eddy
In the same boat Gus. I'm leaning towards Simpkin over Florent, as I think he has the better JS even though he might score a little less. I haven't picked Houston (poor JS) or Hannan (no JLT), so I think Eddy would be the safer pick. Hibberd and Stewart both seem reliable options. I'm worried about Otten's spot as a key back, knowing that Lever and Cheney are soon to be back in the next few weeks.
I'm not as worried about Otten's js .. Cheney has had a setback with his recovery so will be a while before he returns and it will be through the SANFL first which should give time for Otten to ripen. Plus he is taller and Cheney often had to stand much bigger opponents last year. Good luck
Have $80k in the bank and pretty happy with my team but…
Do I hold this cash for potential correctives or upgrade Titch to Selwood/Ablett?
Thoughts?
I'd feel pretty good about Titch Pom – I'd hold the nerve I reckon mate
Thanks Jock! Titch has been in since day 1 and he'll remain.
Pendles going large has had the old school premiums in my mind! I just want this round to over so we are fully locked out!
Had a dream M. Crouch scored a 60, Jock. Very relieved this morning. Don't want this happening again. Very nervous.
We'll be right Crabbo!
Selwood 100%.
Titch stays !!!!
Why would you trade a player that scores the same and is cheaper?
Josh Kennedy or Hannebery
I have both. Leaning towards JPK if I had to choose one though big fella.
I think Hanners. Off the grog and had a big pre-season apparently. Ultra consistent. JPK has a bigger ceiling, but can often be picked off midway through the year for a fair bit cheaper than his starting price.
Parker for me
Have neither but I was very close to going JPK (held firm on Pendles in the end) . The only difference I see between JPK and Hanners is JPK kicks more goals
JPK for mine, his averages are insane when tmitch isn't play
Jock are you thinking Rancey may not be the SC premo he was ,Dusty not pushing back so much in 2017 may hinder Rance in not receiving that occasional chop-out at ground level,it looked like Houli's role has changed in lew of this gamestyle ,Caddy might be the answer & not forgetting Lids run from Wing/Half back,it looks like Rance has been effected mostly ,, am I wrong mate
I think he's just underdone. He was injured preseason don't forget
Rance does better when it is clear who is his opponent and he is set a real challenge. That won't be his best game for the year
pretty happy i went howe over rance 🙂 going n reiwolt as vc today hoping he goes large. so far its been the stalwarts of supercoach looking the goods no suprises yet
I have Howe. If he stays in that role all year he will be one of the best defenders
Jock how do you feel the rookies performing and do you see yourself going more of a guns / rookie strategy?
I just gone with Gazza. Going to back him. Just thinking whether to put the C on him. (got jibbed by VC trelor last night)
Plenty are jumping on him today! My advice – back your preseason research in, I'd resist the urge to pump him in if you've had a few poor performers so far. Back in your preseason son 😉
Am honestly considering trading grundy to nank, thought i was following my guns by not picking him but champion data seem to love the kid, and dear god someone please talk me out of it
Seems like a sideways trade. Buy low sell high
don't do it.
It's a knee jerk reaction to the first round. You swith them now and next week Nank will score 70 and Grundy 130.
Just hold, Grundy will bring your points and the trade is not worth it.
Waste of a trade
The idea of the game Jake is to increase the number of premiums you have in your team. Not trade them because they scored an 80. And to a mid pricer! Jake slap yourself in the face please. If Nank goes welll next week find another way of getting him in
WBDs historically are hard to score against as a ruckman. 80 odd is a decent score against them
Do it, unless your chicken, bok bok bok
Current team:
Def: K Simpson, H Shaw, R Laird, S Burgoyne, C Hampton, A Otten, (M Hibberd, T Stewart)
Mids: P Dangerfield, S Pendlebury, J Kennedy, J Selwood, N Fyfe, J O'Meara, D Swallow, S Powell-Pepper, (O Florent, J Barrett, J Pickett)
Rucks: T Goldstein, A Sandilands (L Strandica)
Fwds: N Riewoldt, J Roughead, W Hoskin-Elliot, C McCarthy, T Taranto, K Turner, (D Butler, B Eddy)
Should I keep Shaw and O'Meara or trade them out for M Priddis and Z Jones.
Keep them.
Yeah I'd keep them
Keep them.
Sorry, posted that as a comment instead of a reply by mistake. Maybe trade Burgoyne down to a rookie (J Smith maybe) and McCarthy up to JJK or Franklin. Your forward line is very thin.
But maybe Burgoyne down to rookie (J Smith maybe) and McCarthy up to JJK or Franklin. Your forward line is very thin.
I'm thinking of going Big Steph as something a little different as Archie wasn't named. Is this a sane move??
Archie won't play reserves all year. Stef struggles with him in the team. Long term it's not a great move
Feeling pretty bloody pleased with my VC loophole in Pendles and the 120 from Bont. Season's off to a good start so far. Still yet to see how some of my midprice risks pay off so fingers crossed for Roughy, Steele and JOM to smash out a good score.
will sloane play or get him out b4 todays games
Danger or Fyfe as captain
Tough to pick Danger imo
Its like splitting hairs could defiantly go either way.
Danger for me definitely, with the vc on Gawn
So now do we take Gawn's 128ish?
Was thinking the same and I think I'll take Gawns 128
Yes i have taken his 128
Current team:
Def: H Shaw, A Rance, H Hartlett, C Marchbank, C Hampton, A Otten, (M Hibberd, T Stewart)
Mids: P Dangerfield, G Ablett, J Kennedy, N Fyfe, D Beams J O'mera, D Swallow, S Powell-Pepper (O Florent, T Taranto, J Pickett)
Rucks: M Kreuzer, T Nankervis (B Preuss)
Fwds: N Riewoldt, L Franklin, S Higgins, J Roughead, J Steele, B Eddy (D Butler, J Simpkin)
Interesting team, I've gone with Higgins too so I hope that can pay off. I like your Ablett and Kreuzer picks, they are great left field picks. A bit uncertain about Hartlett consistency wise and Steele being a JLT trap
I think Hartlett uses the ball well when he is on but it is a risky pick. Backed my gut with Kreuzer. I think Ablett is too good at his best but whether he is at his best I guess we'll see
I've pulled in Zac jones as D4 using cash in the bank, I feel he's a sneaky but got some little creeping doubts! some one tell me…good shout mate, so i feel good about it
Is going KK and Higgins over Shaw and Roughy insane or ballsy? Only way to get Shaw and Roughy would involve changing Gawn to a Stefan Martin or below
Would have taken Shaw, Roughy and Stef over KK, Higgins and Gawn any day of the week
What are people doing with Ed Vickers-Willis ?
Keeping on the bench and hope he gets a game soon or trading out to a R1 player.
I have traded out and moved Hibberd from Mid to Def and traded in Mountford to Mid.
Move doesn't sit well with me though,
If you don’t have Barrett or Parfitt try to move them in or get a Joel Smith kind of player in defence and move Hibberd back into the midfield
I would personally get rid of EVW.
I personally like all rookies to be playing(other then floatong donut if you play that way).
Allowing for correction trades on missed rookies prior to price changes if required.
Is Andy Otten a must have or na?
I wouldn't say a must have as he has his risks
Job security is the major concern here can he hold on long enough to beef up in price before we send him to the slaughter house.
I currently have him.
Need help guys:
Already have guthrie at d8 so that's a donut there
Currently have Cameron at f8 and strndica at r3
Do I trade Cameron to pruess?
Only thing I'm worried about is losing that loop with my rucks as I have nankervis forward
Anyone know anything on the young bloke from the Dees?
Have we poked the Pendle-bear-y by thinking that Treloar will surpass him? I'm still crying that I doubted King Scott and went Prince Adam in his place.
Pendles was majestic last night
Tobias Greene or Buddy?????
Buddy
Buddy
Do I trade Hanners to Ablett?
no. ablett may do well, but very injury prone.
i would take him on all year
History shows he can score go with your gut on who you think will give you the best output.
I will be monitoring little Gaz and considering Post bye
FWD ROOKIES
Houston or Hannan?
DEF ROOKIES
Smith or Stewart?
Who do i pick?
Houston and Smith
okay.
but why?
Better JS
Hannan's js is looking pretty good now
Patch or Lek posted some info on why Hannan over Houston. Looks like got some decent js
Have 90k left as I changed from Grundy/Crouch to Gawn/JOM team is settled.
Although is it worth considering changing Lynch to JJK or Roo with the extra coin from last nights change?
Yes. Lynch is a gun and a good POD, but he has the early bye. Prime upgrade target after that.
Good change Crouch bad pick in my opinion. I would keep the cash for a rainy day
Sidebottom 35 touches Bont 22,SB 17 kicks Bont 8, 2 goals each SB 4 marks Bont 3, SB 3 tackles Bont 4, SB 80% efficiency Bont 72%, SB 117 sc pts Bont 120!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Channel 7 commentary team doing the points last night.
How many of those goals went through bonts hands last night. The most SC friendly player this year
Hannan or Houston doing my head in
Laird or Shaw
Shaw
Are all leagues autofilled yet! Say i wanted to join a league today would i be able to! And will the fixtures work out
leagues are auto filled after this round i believe
So i can still join leagues and Thanks for your quick response Youngy gl with your SC year
Yes u can, Cheers
Swallow or Omeara
Swallow
maybe not now haha
Depends on your structure both will perform in my opinion if playing.
JOM will be right amongst it for Hawthorn who don't have a huge amount of depth on the other hand GC may have more roations through the middle.
Should I go with Toby Greene or roo
roo.
consistent, not injury prone, gun
Roo concerned about lids addition to team in coming weeks
Here is my team wondering if I should make some swaps to utilize my 270k in the bank
Wondering if upgrading taranto/mccarthy to a cheap premo or a midpricer like steele/ roughy is worth it.
Also got to choose between swallow and omeara and laird/shaw.
defence
adams, rance, laird, marchbank, hampton, otten (hibberd, stewart)
mid
danger, jpk, treloar, fyfe, tmitch, beams, swallow, spp (barett, picket, parfitt)
rucks
sandilands, witts (strnadica)
forwards
dahl, macrae, higgins, nank, taranto, mcarth (housten, eddy)
Shaw over Laird for me and keep the cash for a rainy day
Yeh that's what I was thinking. Thanks
Thoughts on JJK??
Solid pick best overall forward scorer last year will have his quiet games
who do you recon will score more?
Joel Smith or T Stewart
stewart has better job security. melbourne have about 8 players to return in the next month, roos have 1 in the defence
Stewart plays for geelong
Otten, Stewart or hibberd on the field in the backline?
Otten
Selwood v T Mitchell???
Selwood
Selwood also
Hibberd or Barret or Pafeit on ground
J Johansson vs Taylor Adams???
JJ
Lynch vs Buddy
I have Buddy but will end up with both – personal preference
Yeah ill have both…maybe bud as he'll def go 95+..lynch unknown
im hoping Taranto scores similar to Dan Butler so i don't fell the brunt of not playing the kid on field too much
Taranto or Hannan ? please advise!
Taranto every day
Often, Smith or Stewart as D6?
Gawn VC into Danger C?
Gday Jock and community. My season is hanging by a thread! I traded out Marchbank & Adams pre game. I feel i need to take a risk now. Welcome to F6 Mitch Hannan…..aka the saviour
Wow that went well your back
Take Bonts 120 as captain?
Who else do you have to come?
If Danger / Fyfe, I would probably roll the dice but otherwise, probably take it.
Hickey or Big Stef?
Stef
Is horlin smith worth a shot over swallow or o'meara with gurthrie, menengola and thurlow out?
This week: Yes. Rest of the year: No
Horlin smith with hold his spot this year. Others will make way
Good pod. Swallow late out. Teams everywhere in disarray!
Major dilemma community! Live in the US and fell asleep literally minutes before thursday nights teams dropped! Unfortunately the last iteration of my team had Nank / Sandi as my rucks. My plan was to have Gawn R1 (sandi r2) as long as he was named the lone ranger and move Nank to R4.
Do I cop the Sandi donut this week by moving strnadica FWD so i can bring back Gawn and go in with my intended structure? Or bring in a premo elsewhere?
Taranto and Houston or
Florent and Simpkin.
I'm worried Pittard will be in for Houston next week.
i want to get butlers score on field but the only way i can do it is if i get a donut, is it worth the risk of getting a donut like maybe darcy cameron or any other forward rookies cause i dont know any that wont play this week but will get games in future, also i have Joel Smith on my bench, but who is the better option for my bench, Smith or Otten.
I need some help Houston or Hannan ? Thankyou.
houston
Taranto and Miles or Bowes and Florent
Is Mountford a good rookie option
The consensus is that his job security is minimal, so may be better options.
Better or worse than Parfitt?
Bad JS but he is playing and cheap so he is in my team
I've picked him. No JLT series but I'm risking it!
Kayne turner jack bowes oliver florent or jy sympkin?
Tough decision. Who and why?
Last minute little decisions. Or at least they seem that way, until they cut you to shreds over the season…
What are everyone's thoughts on the following:
B. Preuss or D. Cameron at R3? Is Cameron going to come in within the next 1-2 weeks? I am concerned with NM and "the Scott effect" (I am thinking he'll alternate between Daw and Preuss).
Is Witts a good option for cash generation in the ruck or am I going crazy? He averaged 72 in 2014 and 2015 – is that realistic considering he's likely to be #1 ruck at GCS?
Lastly, Schoenmakers / Hannan / Eddy / Houston / Florent – what order would you rate them? I need to pick two for my forward bench (I am leaning towards at least one of the cheaper guys so that my SC bank account looks better than mine!).
Do you have a R/F in your FWD line? (Nankervis/Ryder etc) if yes, I'd go Cameron provided all your other rookies are playing. If no, I'd go Pruess as he is playing right now.
A lot to consider with Witts I think. Firstly, when he averaged 72 the ruckmen were scored differently. So since then he has averaged 50 from 2 games (small sample but disappointing nonetheless) if he does average 72 is that enough? Given you will probably have to trade him at his early bye, you might make 150k max. Is Nicholls going to take his place in a few weeks? The upside is he could average more than 72. He scored an 85 in his last JLT game (again very small sample) so it's possible.
Definitely Eddy is best here I think. He is the cheapest, with the best scoring potential and equal best JS with Schonenmakers. Hannan I'd have number 2, we don't know much about him but must be rated internally. I'd have Houston number 3, even though not great JS. The last 2, personally I don't like because I wouldn't pay 30-50k more for a rookie who wasn't guaranteed to give me a better return over a basement priced one.
Thanks for the in-depth response.
I had wanted to bring in Nank but missed lock-out due to the time difference (I'm in Ontario, Canada). May still bring him in, will have to see how he goes next week and if I need to do any other corrective trades (right now, all my rookies are playing, except for Cameron).
I've gone with Eddy and Hannan, we'll see if they can do enough to generate some cash.
Good luck for the year!
J Smith or M Hannan?
smith
Or not lol
Martin and Swallow
OR
Gawn and a 120k rookie
Gawn and rookie for me concerned about Martins output.
Gawn and rookie as I see 1 keeper there. Even if the rookie is Barnaby Joyce I'd still take that option!
Mitchell will out scores his price IMO both will score well.
Ask yourself will Mitchell finish top 10 mid?
No sure he will.
I'm tossing up between him and Bowes or Florent or Sympkin
Or
JPK and Hannan
Thoughts?
Hibberd or Barret or Pafeit on ground
How do i change my team emblem in supercoach?
T Mitchell and J Bowes
Or
Hanerbery and Hannan
ablet swallow steel
or
beams omeara franklin
Parfitt/Houston/Eddy for F6??
ablet & tarranto or beams & oliver
It seem that the Champion Data favourites factor is operating at 200% this round. If the Bont gets 120 for a dozen cheap and easy possessions Gaz is looking good for a season opening 400+
Goldy and Sandi
Or
Sandi and Witts
Looks like Strnadica is on field game 1! I am pretty damn pleased I went with my gut and chose DePendlebury over Treloar and saw through the achilles BS to put the VC on the great man. 😀
Todays last minute panic trade Barlow to GAJ, hopefully it will make up for going Pendle to Treloar yesterday
Hopefully. I think only good things can come from that….8 Points this week…..more to follow.
Joel Smith off with an arm injury, doesn't look good.
Crap.
Gday, wondering if anyone has subscribed to the Herald Sun for digital access and live supercoach scores. Tossing up whether to fork out. Is it work it.
For free live scores register at fanfooty.com.au
Don't even know if it exists anymore, it's had nothing but problems ever since it came in.
As of now I would say no way, it was buggy af on the weekend. They need to see lack of subs coming in to motivate the fingers to be pulled out.
Robbie Gray, two possessions. 18 points.
Ollie Wines, 14 possessions. 16 points.
Huh?
Ollie Wines' D/E must have been atrocious and Gray's D/E must have been exceptional…….Not buying it. Let's see if Wines score is corrected.
Who will be the replacement for Joel Smith
Zac Jones
Assuming they have to coin to upgrade.
Roo Steele going well halftime 50 odd, Hickey Stinking it up, big Maxy 50odd.
Buddy, JPK, Parker, Jones all 50 odd, Gray and Ryder meh, SPP 38ish.
Wtf happened to Eddy?…did he break his leg or something?…is the big show too much for him?
Docherty and Matt Crouch or Dusty and JJ
This is really disappointing crap from StKilda, I was excited about this game but now can barely even stand to watch another minute.
Hope they can lift their bloody game in the coming weeks, otherwise it's another mediocre year coming up.
Traded Pendles out for Trelor to sneak in Taranto, Supercoach has already given me the good old stuff you!
and ive left Pickett and Eddy on the ground, big boot up my backside already
I've got Eddy on field too, and chose Treloar over Pendles….hooray!
I feel you. I too swapped out Pendles for Treloar and left Eddy on field with Butler on the bench. I also thought it was a good idea to swap JPK out for Hanners last minute. Boy was I wrong…
ouch
First time this decade I haven't started Pendlebury.
It's going to be a tough few weeks watching him punish me.
How crap was Hanners? Barely sighted. Mustve been trying to adjust to playing a bit more inside. Hope that stops.
Swallow is out!!!
OUT repeat OUT
That's gonna hurt lots of unsuspecting coaches
Port looking like beating Sydney?…whoda thunk it?
and essendon over hawks wtf
Bugga,
Hanners is getting outscored by my bench. My Premos have been crap but my midpricers have all gone v.well
Hope Gaz pumps out a 170
Only one game mate, Hanners is a gun.
I have certain criteria when selecting players, DEF & FWD must have ceiling of 140+, MIDS must have floor no lower than 60. A disgraceful performance by Hanners. I picked him over Kennedy because he is a fast starter.
Hanners played on the wing. If this continues, we have a very serious issue…
Horlin-Smith good enough replacement for Swallow? Or just leave Swallow on the pine and take Barretts score?
Do we just swap swallow to omeara?
Yep … Swallow out has buggered everything up for me.
Oh God … as I am typing Saint Nick's just done his knee …
Good Lord.
Looks like Nick Riewoldt might've done his knee, how bloody sad, on top of how this game has gone.
Would be a tragedy for him to go out this way
When's the next game?…Phuck this is depressing!
Feck rooey is injured!!!!!!!
I Really don't want to bring Omera into my team… what other options do I have… Do I keep Swallow… SuperCoach GODS WHY
I traded Swallow subbed Taranto into my mids and picked up McCarthy in my forwards and pocketed 80K
Decided to keep Swallow will just take Barrets score. Maybe not the smartest move, Hopefully he is just sick or something. I really like Swallow one of my first picked, hopefully he plays next week.
With more time maybe I could have figured something better out but with the time I had and all my fowards already played, I couldn't come up with a trade that made me happy.
Hopefully Swallow kills it next week and is now somewhat a point of difference.
Damn!! Lucky I checked crisis averted, actually means I'm almost closer to true guns and rooks. Ditched Swallow for Jaeger and changed some rooks thru DPP….
First injury trade of the year coming up
poor Riewoldt 🙁
Put O'meara in, you won't regret it.
Opinions?? Swallow to Bowes/Ainsworth or hold?
There is 35 minutes until the game and Swallow is locked! WTF!!!!
Yeah wtf is up with that? not happy jan
Swallow's not named in the side, what do you mean?
Should be able to trade him out right up until the first bounce. He has been locked early though and we can't. This is really shit.
Sure is, I am farkin livid!
it is open now i had to bring in horlin smith
Time difference Tim? I missed it too.
10 played for 966. hanners 52 put a proverbial spanner in the works
Still, a solid start mate, if you can go 2200+ first round, you're on track.