Barron Von Crow Team Reveal

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Barron Supercoach Team Reveal

Hello, Jock Reynolds Community and welcome to the 2017 team reveal of The SloaneRangers.

The team you see before you has been hand crafted by expert Supercoach artisans, gently wrapped in the finest of silks and then finally, completely smashed to oblivion as I make several desperate last minute changes to my side.

I will admit, there were a few changes based on new information coming out of the JLT Series, but the nucleus of my side has actually remained constant through most of the pre-season, which may actually be a first for me. If I actually fare any better once the season remains to be seen, but if we don’t have hope, what do we have? Sure, there’s Oreos in the cupboard, but I don’t think there’s enough there for me to stress eat my way through an entire season.

I haven’t left much wiggle room in terms of salary cap on this team, with just $15.7K remaining, so cash generation will be very important to this side. And now on to the selections!



The top 3 are obvious. Kade Simpson is both consistent and likely to play every game of the year, Heath Shaw is just too good to pass up and Laird has the potential to be even better than he was last year if he can start winning more ball in the middle. Shaw was one of my changes, I originally had Jeremy Howe, who after a slow start to 2016 he ended up averaging 100 SCPoints from about Round 6 onwards, but the thought of the Pies getting desperate and swinging him up forward scared me off him some.

Marchbank will hopefully average in the 75-80 range, enough to put points on the board and make some nice cash. The D5 onwards is the best of who is playing in terms of rookie selections. Hampton averaged 88 SCPoints in the JLT series, I imagine his midfield time will decrease when Sloane and when/if Brad Crouch returns, but he may instead occupy the half forward role Richard Douglas had last year, one that saw him spend about 30% of his time in the midfield. Dougy averaged 77 SCPoints last year, so if Hampton can hit that he’ll make some decent coin. The rest of the defenders is made up of whoever is available at a rookie price.



There should be plenty of points being put on the board with Dangerfield, Treloar, Kennedy and Fyfe on the field. I’ve gone for Treloar over Pendles just because I’m banking on Treloar having a better ability to post a greater average in 2017 than he did in 2016, whereas I think the opposite may be true for Pendles (greater chance of averaging less in 2017). Matt Crouch was a last minute addition to the side, Robbie Gray was originally in his position, but missing 2 of the 3 pre-season games with soreness turned him from a starter to a potential upgrade target instead.

As for the reason for selecting Matt Crouch, there are the obvious stagnating risks in doing so, but it’s mostly down to opportunity. The rumours I’ve been hearing that even when healthy Scott Thompson won’t be a first choice selection which leaves even more inside work for Matt to take care of. People will say it’s a homer pick, sure, I can understand that, but it’s one that isn’t without it’s upside. Dayne Beams is a risk also, just because of his injury history, but if he can stay healthy then history says he’ll be one of the best midfielders, which is a great deal for his price.

SPP is an obvious rookie selection, he’ll be in damn near every team, and the rest of the midfield, like all other rookies, will have to be made up of whatever is available to us in Round 1.



Yes, even with all the Spencer talks Gawn is still in my side…for the moment.

He is the one pick in my side I am the most unsure of at this stage, but I do still have the opportunity to downgrade him to someone like Goldstein, Grundy or Martin when the teams are named and use the extra cash elsewhere (upgrading Matt Crouch to Selwood for example). Worst case scenario is even if I swap Gawn out and the Spencer experiment only lasts a week or two, Gawn probably won’t be much more expensive than his starting price if I trade him in later.

Nankervis is a value selection who will be moved into the forward line later in the season when he’s hopefully averaging in the 90-95 SCPoint range. That’ll allow me to then pick the next best ruckman to trade in as my R2 later in the year.



I went back and forth with a few selections here, Roughead was in and out, but he was squeezed out for now, but if the above Gawn downgrade occurs, he could be back in for Hoskin-Elliot.

I’m quite excited by Riewoldts potential, so his starting price doesn’t bother me and while you can almost guarantee Franklin will cheaper at some point in the year, he’s a likely chance to finish as a top 5 forward again in 2017. I’m banking on Hoskin-Elliot being my Marchbank up forward, hopefully he’ll hit the same sort of average and make some cash. At this stage it seems like we’ve got fewer solid rookie options than last year, hence the selection of these 200K players.

I wasn’t super enthused with picking Taranto, but it feels like picking someone like Pickett is a waste of a pick considering he may be so inconsistent with his scoring in the JLT series, I’d say he’ll be the Menadue of 2017, but hopefully that doesn’t occur to Taranto. We already know Butler is named for Round 1, so he’s likely there, but the Port boys in Eddy and Houston are not guaranteed yet.

So that’s my side for 2017, and like all Supercoach sides, I’m sure there will be some who love it, some who hate it and others that will be sitting there who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about “What’s to be done with this Barron Von Crow?”

Anyway, I’d love to hear your thoughts on my side in the comments below.







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Like it Barron. Just when I thought I was sorted, you've got me pondering again. Especially on Matt Crouch.

Nick Wealands

Very similar to my starting squad Barron with the premo defenders and forwards the exact.
Interesting to see Gawn at F1 despite bloody Spencer, could definitely see people running the Nankilands and then upgrading when the dust is settled to make sure they get the true #1 ruck


I like it alot


The Nank at R2 surprises me.

I get why people will have the Nank, and that is mainly for Ruck cover, especially if they have Sandilands.

But having him at R2 defeats the purpose of having him as cover. Surely you don't think he will score better than Sandilands in a H2H battle, plus he is $50k more?


Perhaps its just that Nank is more likely to survive the season?


Agree, but you have him at F7 to finish.

I can't see where he fits. Sandi is a better option at R2 and Roughie a better option at F4.

Therefore the only thing he has is the DPP.

To get best value out of the DPP he needs to be at F4 with another DPP at R3.

Btw……. word out of hawks training is that Roughie been training with the midfield group.


Nank might be F6 at years end if he can get an 85-90 average. A 90 average would have him T10 based on last years scores now we're missing so many DPP options. Sandi the better R2 option for me too though.

Concern with Roughy is can you see him being able to play 22 games, especially if he's going through the guts? Massive ask, I could see him getting fatigued mid way through. We'd have our conerns if he was coming back from a knee or something and he's battled cancer… Thats going to be far more taxing on his body. Love to be proven wrong….


No problems with Roughie.

You can see Clarko eyes light up when was talking about Roughie a few days ago. He said Roughie was the difference last year, even though the Hawks talk about one soldier down another one takes their place, he admitted that he underestimated how much they missed him.


Still doesn't mean there's 22 games in him though! That's what I'm unsure about, not his ability…

neil Demons Delight

Sandy at R2 and nank F6 definetly the way to go suggest an oversight right Baron


Sandi may break down, Baron can move Nank at some point and see how the other rucks play out and pick the no.2 ruck after gawn. Really smart move and not sure why people can't see this.


The Nank has a TBC feel about it….



Yet nank is

1. Young

2. Not injury prone.


Maybe more like a Lobbe then



I just checked nank's previous supercoach stats playing second fiddle to Tippet and Pyke.

Made me even more happy to throw away the key.


Anyone else going with Ryder at R1 if he is named alone?


He should be in as a forward

Johnny Bee

Not neccesarily Derek. If you're starting the Nank forward it's OK to start Ryder at F1. Now starting both Ryder and the Nank at R1 and R2 would be silly

Johnny Bee

That should read R1 not F1


Not necessarily. Ryder and nank at R1 and R2 is just a cheap ruck option while you wait for Gawn and whoever you want as no.2 to go down in price.


I like the selection but keep thinking it's important to compare him with his one other season in Power colours. When you look at it that way, he won't be a keeper and won't make great coin…

Johnny Bee

Steeeve his one other season in Power colours he had to share ruck duties for a lot of weeks with Floggy, sorry Lobbe. The question was Ryder at R1 if named alone. Lobbe has completely fallen out of favour since then


Nope, have Stef at R1. Ryder F3 at present.


Like it, surprised there's no Sandi. Also, R11 bye will be hard to handle in your forward line…

I N Pieman

Very solid BVC. Certainly an interesting ruck combo. Can't say I've seen that too often if at all. With the Swans announcing that Darcy Cameron will line up round 1 he could be your cover. Thank god there's some sanity after yesterday's team reveal. Good luck for the season

Randomcliche2 reporting an infection to keep him out…damn


Nice one BVC.
I like the 3 premo defence – 4 rooks on the ground is a bridge too far for mine esp with all those who may/may not be playing games on Sunday.
No otten? Being a crows man are u worried about his job security?
Mids like everyone depends on rookie selection esp Barrett being upgraded an named.
When do rookies have to be upgraded by? First bounce?
Rucks agree with Derek. Nank at R2? Love to hear your thoughts of why he is r2 and not sandi?
Injury history.
I too am looking at starting WHE, and tarranto fwd. They r dear but the I think u need to spend on dearer rooks here as the options are not appealing esp the inconsistent scoring get small fwd.

neil Demons Delight

Is Turner an option TRIG


Love the WHE, does anyone think that taranto and whe would be good rooks up forward, and maybe have an extra premo in defence?


if you had to pick 1, who would it be
Witts in Ruck or
WHE up Fwd?
Already have Tarranto
Thoughts and comments appreciated.


I'd go Witts, although WHE could benefit from De Goey being out…


Would love some insight from the community on what is (hoepfully) close to my final team.

$49,400 left in the bank

Docherty, Shaw, Marchbank
Hampton, Otten, Hibberd (Vickers-Willis/Stewart)

Danger, Hannebery, Z.Merrett,
J.Selwood, Fyfe, Bontempelli,
Treloar, D.Beams (Barrett, Powell-Pepper, Pickett)

Sandilands, Witts(Strnadica)

J.J.Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Nankervis,
W.Hoskin-Elliott, Eddy, Balic (Schoenmakers, Butler)

As always, rookies will change. The other change I'm considering is downgrading the Bont to fill a hole in DEF or FWD made by a missing/not named rookie. I feel the MIDs have the safest options with regards to spending on premiums and guaranteed keepers, and also the weakest for rookies, hence the depth.

I think I've got the best spread I can get for the byes

Coach Carter

Like it, that midfield bats very deep…my only concern would be Witts at R2. Big risk in my opinion with no SC runs on the board before. An upgrade to Sandi by downgrading a mid?


Had witts and nank before JLT so theyve only done no wrong.. i dont like having sandi but his ceiling to price ratio is just to great haha.. fingers crossed for all 3

Dac Zawson

Going that deep in the mids means that you can't jump on/upgrade to any midfield guns that could be having ripper years and would either have to rely on injuries or wasting trades if 1-2 of your mids slid to top 15-20 in their position.

Personally I'd go one premo mid to a rookie or even Jaegar O'Meara, and then upgrade Hoskin Elliot to a premo forward as I don't see his scoring potential being overly high.

Best of luck Hitch


Thanks dac, JOM had been there until i decided cam McCarthy wasnt going to generate more than 100k (av <60).. so dropped him and upgraded.. trying to be as close as i can to guns and rookies, except for the rucks obviously..


Your deep mid field is costing you on all other lines. You have 2 extra MID prems than most you need to drop 1 so that SPP is on the field, he is wasted on the bench he will out score at least 4 of your onfield rookie.


That might be true blakey, my problem being that i cant choose, with any certainy, other players on the other lines. The team is totally dependent on enough rookies with enough job security playing, that goes without saying but the one thing i dont want to be doing this year is to be burning trades on premiums.. lets see what happens when the teams drop.. cheers


Not the way I'm going, but I really like this. You have chosen only players with a legitimate shot at being among the top few at their position, and players who will make you money. I just hope you get enough good rookies on the defence and forward lines to make you money — and that you don't miss out on any unforseen gun mid rookies due to being so deep in the mids.

neil Demons Delight

nice team but like the others one too many mids one less in def. If Stevens or Rocky crack it you need a sidewards trade very undesirable good luck will still do well


Thanks guys, we can't avoid risk totally so have to choose where and what to risk, I guess this way I'm risking possibly not having the top 8 mids, maybe 8 of the top 12. I think I would prefer that to a t.adams injury or j.lloyd 'not breakout' year etc. who knows though.. might be a freak year where all the mid-pricers just go baaanngg

Coach Carter

Looks good Barron. Crouch is certainly interesting, but you make some valid points. Could be a great Pod. Kade Simpson is interesting this year, it could only be his age putting anybody off as he has proven durability/scoring potential. Good balance though mate, it's difficult to ignore so many mid pricers that represent good value this year.
I'm going in without Roughy, JOM, Steele etc at this stage, but all look tempting. Swallow interests me, what are people's thoughts on his role this year with Barlow, Hanley and even Ablett being added to that rotation now?


Seems to me Swallow will line up on a wing or at half forward. Should be able to average 80, hopefully more. Should have made you enough coin by his round 9 bye. I currently have the 'big 3' risky mids — Swallow, JOM and Beams. If I have to drop one it will likely be JOM, I can see him being rested.


Not bad, I do not think Teai Miles will see action too soon, but hey, I may be wrong. Suggest JOM, if you have the cash.


Exciting times lads, getting close to game time!

Can I get a few opinions on the squad please :

Doch, Shaw, Adams, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, EVW, Stewart

Danger, JPK, Trealor, Fyfe, TMitchell, Beams, Oliver, Powell-Pepper, Pickett, Hibberd, Parfitt

Nank, Sandi, Cameron

Riewolt, Dalhaus, Roughhead, Steele, Taranto, Eddy, Butler, Houston.

I'm leaning towards ditching TMitchell going for Selwood and either downgrading Cameron Strna. Thoughts?

Dac Zawson

If Cameron plays Round 1 I'd keep him and then once he's made some coin downgrade to a loophole option.
Personally I'd upgrade Oliver or Steele and downgrade the other, but I imagine you have your reasons for selecting them


Thanks for your info mate. Might upgrade Hibberd to Barrett about it.


Also toying with Laird instead of Admas though 3 ds from Crows worries me.




Go for Laird like you're thinking and good pick with Oliver. I was tossing up between him and parish but took parish. Good pick.


try and find the money for zac dawson good stepping stone


i would seriously hold off on Dawson for a few weeks, see how Fyfe is going in the midfield. If Dawson doesn't get any midfield time I doubt he will be make much cash

I'm thinking he might even be Rookie Priced at some stage this year, jump on then


Very solid work BVC.

Hey by the way got a public league that's completely empty at the moment, I know it's last minute to ask but anyone interested in joining the code is 123798 🙂

No pressure at all plenty of spots community haha.


Just joined your league Cliffy 🙂


Cheers Philbobaggins! 🙂


Damn missed out!

the nank

Thoughts community

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Ed Vicker-Willis (Stewart, Otten)

MID: Danger, JPK, Trealor, Fyfe, Watson, Beams, JOM, SPP (Miles, Wigg, Parfitt)

Ruck: Grundy, Sandi (Strndica)

Forward: JJK, Dahlhaus, Buddy, Roughie, Taranto, Butler (Cameron, Eddy)

Hopefully Watson can average 100-105 and make 100k then trade up to premo such as tmitch or if I can find the cash Jelwood at around round 7-10
See how Sandi goes but hoping to upgrade around 7-10 and see what ruckmen available
Hopefully JOM can average 95+ and gain cash quickly for quick upgrade to fallen premo
Thoughts community?

Dac Zawson

Personally I think you're overestimating Jobe; yes he will have some big games that give us a glimpse of the good old days, but a year out has to have some affect on his consistency, so I'd say a mid 90's average is most likely


Good pick with watson. He will make the cash you need don't worry about that


What Dac said – can't see Watson Ave 100, with that at his price makes him irrelevant this year. Would try to find some extra cash for Titch


Pick two out of Shaw, Laird & Adams….

the nank

Shaw and laird


Thanks for your opinion Nank.

Anyone else ?

neil Demons Delight

agree SHAW and LAIRD adams too risky and wont outscore either


I have Laird and adams.

I like picking midfielders in defence, Laird will be a mid this year.

Shaw is a bit expensive, will get later




Shaw and laird

The Ranger

Solid team Barron. I like the structure.

Hayden Hoare

like this team, almost same as mine but instead 1 premo (buddy) and a rookie which he has done i have gone 2 mid price (o meara and rounghead)


Feel free to jump in my league. 273448
Have so much respect for this community. Last three years the knowledge here has lifted me from 20,000 to 10,000 to 1800 last year. Hoping for top 1000 this year and stronger teams in my league is vital. Cheers

the nank

Which structure should i go in with
option 1
DEF: Shaw, Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Ed Vicker-Willis (Stewart, Otten)

MID: Danger, JPK, Trealor, Fyfe, Watson, Beams, JOM, SPP (Miles, Wigg, Parfitt)

Ruck: Grundy, Sandi (Strndica)

Forward: JJK, Dahlhaus, Buddy, Roughie, Taranto, Butler (Cameron, Eddy)

Option 2
DEF: Shaw, Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Ed Vicker-Willis (Stewart, Otten)

MID: Danger, JPK, Trealor, Jelwood, Beams, JOM, SPP (Miles, Wigg, Parfitt)

Ruck: Nank, Sandi (Strndica)

Forward: JJK, Dahlhaus, Buddy, Roughie, Taranto, Butler (Cameron, Eddy)

Option 3
DEF: Simpson, shaw , thurlow, Hampton, Ed Vicker-Willis, Stewart (Newman, Otten)

MID: Danger, JPK, Trealor, Jelwood, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP (Miles, Wigg, Parfitt)

Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Strndica)

Forward:Dahlhaus, Caddy, Roughie, Steele, Taranto, Butler (Cameron, Eddy)

Dac Zawson

Despite the fact I don't like the Watson pick at all, I'd probably choose Option 1


I like 3. It doesn't have Howe


All very similar…but
Option 2. No Watson, no Gawn (s.t. Spencer named).


Would you rather:

Beams, Omeara, Greene


Beams, swallow, Mcrae or any other FWD cheaper then 527K?

cheers community

the nank

Option 2 all the way


Second option, including Macrae

Dac Zawson

Option 1


Shaw, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, Stewart (Hibbered, VW)

Danger, Selwood, Treloar, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, Parfitt)

Sandi, Witts (Strnadica)

Dahl, Buddy, Lynch, Higgins, Nank, Taranto (Schoenmakers, Eddy)>

Still got $250k left to potentially upgrade Witts to Hickey if he's named as a R1 lone wolf, loading up my FWD line with premo's who will be top 8. Not sure on my mids.. too cookie cutter? I've had Sloane/Zorko floating in and out of them for weeks. THOUGHTS??


Upgrade witts to grundy maybe?
If you don't have enough drop one of Higgins or Lynch and grab someone else like a roughed or someone?


jack steele or roughie? real head scratcher


Proven versus unproven. Captain versus shift clubs because I am not best 22.


sound reasoning




league codes?


Top left hand corner in app bud…assuming you want invite not be invited….


I've just gone Jaeger OUT Florent IN
So I can also upgrade Rance to Shaw, and Strnadica to Cameron.

Good move or bad?


The only worry with Florent is job security


Same for Cameron. Also the likelihood of him ave 40 and not making any cash


Yeah job security but also gives the mid/fwd
I had him as my last fwd originally but made way without him and got other rookies instead




Which MID would you grab for 604K?

I already have Cripps, Fyfe and Beams under this price and this player will be my M3.



I'm still high on the Bont. End of last season I said Bont and Cripps would be must haves to start the year. Both had interrupted preseasons so I've cooled my jets there (upgraded Cripps to Treloar). But I have both in my top 10 midfielders.
A cheaper option again could be Titch. Absolute bargain if he can push his average to 110, which I think is likely.


Find another $1k and get Treloar


Titchell, rocky, kelly, hall ate my fave at this price point






Jack Steven

The Tex Factor

I want Heath Shaw but I just keep staring at the price tag. Which option is better?

1. Shaw, Marchbank, JOM

2. Lloyd/Mills, Z.Guthrie (pending selection), T.Mitchell

Current lineup:

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart (Otten, EVW)
MID: Danger, JPK, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP (Hibberd, Parfitt, Barrett)
R: Grundy, Sandi (Strndica)
FWD: Dahl, Buddy, Roughy, Nank, Taranto, Houston (Pickett, Eddy)
$5,400 bank


Shaw was a lot more expensive last year. His price tag looks decent in comparison. I'd take him over Simpson any day. And I'd definitely back him in over Lloyd/Mills. They're teammates. It's highly unlikely they will BOTH break out. That's a risk whoever you might choose. Marchbank is also safe, whereas Guthrie might never get a game.


I'd go with option one Tex. Generate cash, and higher possibility Shaw will be Top 6 than Tom Mitchell.

I don't mind the starting price tag for Shaw.

The teams GWS play in the first six rounds, Shaw averaged 112.0 against them in 2016 and 112.8 against them in 2015. Priced at 106.0, the stats suggest he can get off to a good start and exceed that price tag/average early. Food for thought.


Drop adams for a Lloyd? $$


Shaw's output decreased last year. Plus his average was boosted by that 200. Had a lot of average scores.


It amazes me how much belief people are putting into Nankervis.

Big fan of his at the swans, but even then he never got over 90SC points, hitting to the best midfield in the comp.

Well, okay, but he'll be a forward?

He kicked 2 goals in 7 games and has shown he generally doesn't like taking set shots, but would rather give off the ball to crumming forwards.

If you are expecting him to magically average 85-90 then seriously reconsider him in your team.

If all you want is coverage that may average 70 and get a 90 every now and then, but give up 40's and 50's. Then this is your guy.


i met the guy a couple of times when he was sent out on cold sunday mornings to do Auskick at the local club.

no-one knew who he was, and all the kids asked him about was buddy.

I didn't believe him when he said he was a ruckman. He isn't that big!


He's 199cm and 106KG so similar to Mumford…………..


I got him as my f3 or f4 and cover incase any of my rucks do go down


Crouch or lloyd? and what are people's thoughts on z jones


All risky but Crouch at best can average 105+. Lloyd and Jones (and probably Mills) will all share the points back there in the Swans' defence, can see them all averaging 80.




riewoldt and t mitch, or gunston and and JPK? help would be much apprieciated thanks lads


Gunston and T Mitch.




Riewoldt/Gunston and JPK.


DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, (Vickers-Willis, Stewart)
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Hanners, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, SPP (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt)
RUC: Nank, Sandi (Cameron)
FWD: JJK, Dahlhaus, Roughy, Taranto, Pickett, Butler (Eddy, Houston)
8.5k left

Is going 2 Pie + Swan mids risky?


What's the collective view on Otten's JS?

Also, doesn't seem to be a lot of love around for Florent. Given dearth of fwd rookies and Heeney spot up for grabs I'm surprised not more are considering.


I'm going NankiWitts so plenty of cash in reserve for a corrective trade if required up to all including Grundy, after Florent as my F6. Just not confident of scoring potential of other FWD rookies other than Taranto, maybe Houston might be OK until Pittard is back but that looks like only 3-4 weeks – and then he could be benched. Rest I fear will be up and down and too unpredictable to pick on field.


Sorry SandiWitts, with Nank as cover FWD

Clock Management

If Cheney and lever are ready to go (Likely) no room for Otten, simple as that


Is it that simple. A Hawks fan here and Cheney while serviceable was step below the others regulars at the Hawks…I did watch Cheney against the Hawks and he did look very solid…but not tier 1….is it always going to be the case Cheney is better than Otten?


I always thought Cheney was solid. Maybe it was more that they had too many defenders who could play a similar role. Or maybe he just wanted to go to Adelaide to join the other Rangas (no offense intended)


All over Florent mate, just not telling anyone about it 😉


You just told us. Good luck with it.




Hey, great write up.
A lot of similarities to what I've got at the moment. Keep tossing up between Higgins or Ryder for last spot up forward.
23k left over. Thoughts/suggestions?

DEF: Docherty, Laird, Z Jones, Marchbank. Hampton, Otten SUB: Vickers Willis & Stewart
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, T Mitch, Beams, JOM, D Swallow SUB: Powell Pepper, Barrett, Hibberd
RUC: Goldy, Sandi SUB: D Cameron
FWD: Dahl, Higgins OR Ryder, Roughy, Nank, Taranto, Pickett SUB: Butler, Eddy


Don't choose Ryder, he's a spud


Higgens I rekon.


Couple of spuds can be nice as an accompaniment to any steak.


Looking st it again you should get rid of swallow or JOM put SPP on field and get another rookie for bench then use the saved cash on getting a premium fwd over higgins/Ryder. They are definatly not F2s

neil Demons Delight

Nankervis will do our heads in . Is he better than Steele or Roughy don't think so and as a forward does he really cut the mustard.W e rely on his ruckwork and his good JS. Against at least 6 rucks he will be beaten and not being great up forward is he worth it IN at present but Steele looks good


The sense I needed to listen to…..thank you DD


I hope nobody locks in Nankervis.


It has become a Rookie Crisis.

The AFL needs to step in and do something about this.

Read this morning that Mountford, Durdin, Hibberd and VickersW probably won't play.

Otten may, but I can't see him getting any more than 2 games. Same with Houston.

At least Stewart's hammy is ok.

Barrett still not upgraded off rookie list…. neither is Guthrie…… hurry along fellas!

Miles has been forgotten about, even Shoenmakers is unlikely now.


I think J Smith from Melb is looking likely. They are short of talls down back (Lyndon Dunn, where are you?) and he does look like he can get a run at it. Will be a slow burn at best, but is a warm body on our defensive bench


Pretty sure Guthrie will be upgraded, not sure how many games we'd get out of him, makes Menapoo look like Arnie.

Tiger Man

Getting close now community, would love some advice on competing my final team.
Riewoldt and swallow
Lynch and omeara


Either way is solid. If had to choose i'd go with the Rooey option. Expecting him to start off the season very well.


O'mera > Swallow by a fair margin. Roo better by a bit….make it happen or just settle for 2.


Good team Barron your call on Roughie is wise and everybody, even Derek, should remove him from their team. Hopefully everybody with Roughie and no Max will downgrade the big, slow, unfit, ranga for WHE so that they can get Max and make cash.
Red burns and redheads burn more than any other


I think it's more that the bomber discount is only 19%, so not enough value. I think it's fair to say that the others you mentioned are more in the range of a 30% discount. Roughy is some chance to be top 8 forward come year end. Worse case a stepping stone. Outside of Hurley, not sure any of the bombers are looking like they could be a keeper come year end.


10% not 19%. Typo


I wasn't keen on Roughie earlier, but I see him playing a lot of midfield, so I'm happy to keep him for now.

Cyril said in an interview this week that he won't be getting any extra midfield this year but that Roughie had been training as a mid. I can see they want a big body in there.

neil Demons Delight

Probably correct and aside from every man and dog wishing him success both on and off the field its his price and ability to score mid 80 that makes him better than those around him WHE STEELE both unknown high scorers.pity he hasn't dpp


What are people's thoughts on my team:

DEF: Doch, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Hibberd, Stewart)
MID: Danger, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Tom Mitchell, Beams, Swallow, SPP (Barrett, Miles, Parfitt)
RUCK: Grundy, Sandi (Strandica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Macrae, Nankervis, Taranto, Eddy (Cameron, Butler)

Got $13.8k left over



Hickey & JOM


Nank & Oliver

Tiger Man

Hickey and JOM


Nank and JOM
Lynch and Barrett


Nank and JOM, Lynch after China


Lynch VC option this week against Brisbane. Could go large.


Knowing that both options are risky, would you think it's more likely Jack Steele could average 85+, or Matt Crouch to average 105+?


Definitely Crouch more likely IMO


I'd say Steele. I think they will both average that much but Steele more likely to go higher (or lower)


Steele for sure.


Beams, Crouch in an M7 structure? I'm running something similar here…

Wood duck

Looking for some feed back on my team
Def: Shaw, Rance, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart (Collins, Long)
Mid: Danger, Treloar, Priddis, Fyfe, Watson, Beams, O'meara, Bowes (Florent, SPP, Parfitt)
Rucks: Hickey, Sandi (Preuss)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Nankervis, Taranto, Eddy (Butler, Pickett)
$107,900 in the bank any help would be great!

Johnny Boogaloo

OK, time to show what I got …

DEF: Simpson, Shaw, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, EVW (Otten, Hibberd)

MID: Danger, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, Taranto, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, Parfitt)

RUCK: Grundy, Sandi (Strongdick)

FWD: Riewoldt, Dahl, Roughy, Nank, McCarthy, Schoenmakers (D. Cameron, Eddy)

Nothing too "out there", but I think I'm just about settled.

Thoughts would be much appreciated.

Also, anyone got spots in a good league going?


Put either Pickett, Parfitt in fwd to swing with Taranto


McCarthy scored 80 odd after scoring 5 goals which puts me off. Imagine he doesn't score a goal.. probably a few better options out there atm and not sure on shoemakers.


Interesting that none of the Jock Community member team reveals have the Bont…

Thoughts on this team?

DEF:K. Simpson, H. Shaw, R. Laird, C. Marchbank, C. Hampton, A. Otten (E. Vickers-Willis, T. Stewart)
MID: P. Dangerfield, J. Kennedy, A. Treloar, N. Fyfe, S. Mitchell, D. Beams, S. P-P, J. Barrett (J. Pickett, M. Hibberd, B. Parfitt)
RUC:T. Nankervis, A. Sandilands (L. Strnadica)
FWD:J. Kennedy, L. Dahlhaus, S. Higgins, J. Roughhead, J. Steele, T. Taranto, (D. Houston, B. Eddy)


Is that Sam or Tom Mitchell? I'd go Tom and would not go Sam.

Mickey P

Would love some feedback from the gurus of SC – ie; The Jock Reynolds community 🙂

Backs – Docherty, Laird, Lloyd, Marchbank, Hampton, EVW (Stewart/Guthrie)
Mids – Danger, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Titch, Josh Kelly, Beams, O'meara (SPP/Barrett/Bolton)
Ruck – Sandi, Witts (Strnadica)
Fwd – Kennedy, Dahl, Nank, Steele, Taranto, Pickett (Parfitt/Eddy)

Very light in rucks, but hoping to make more cash with these guys than rookies in mids to then upgrade. Hoping my mids will require very little upgrading.

Am I mad?


Downgrade JOM to a rookie with SPP on field. Keep that cash as cover in first 2 weeks if Witts or Sandi break or fail. And also allows you to still potentially get JOM in after week 2 if he fires, but you also have the option of picking whoever is breaking out then. I think the odds are that whilst this strategy could cost you a trade, the optionality it gives you is that it's more likely to save you a trade (rather than a double trade to fix rucks if say Witts goes down). I'm keeping enough to go to Grundy or Hickey, even Goldy if Florent not named and I replace with a cheaper rookie.


But spend the cash on pickett or Tarato and then Hope! But do think a lot has been spent on hope this preseason.


Can make more cash by putting a SPP on as your last midfielder and one of kelley/beams would have to make way or even omeara though, and grab another rookie? Will free up much cash.

Tom Scanlon

Hogan a good option? 417k and averaged 97.3 over the 3 JLT games?


No. move on. If you are looking at KPFs go the likes of Roo or Lynch or Buddy as their floor is lower than the other KPFs who could give you a 30 or 40 one week.


You never know.

Ballsy choice and I don't mind it.

Melbourne will get more inside 50's this year I reckon with a maturing midfield and addition of Lewis. Max gawn will be feeding those guys with no 3rd man up.



Def Adams, Laird, Thurlow, Marchbank, Hampton, Vic willis, (Otten, Guthrie)
Mid Danger, Kenned,y Hanners, Parke,r Cripps, Fyfe, Beams, SPP, (Pickett, Miles, Parfitt)
Ruck Nank, Sandi (Strandaica)
Fwd ROO, Dahlhaus, Macare, Steele, Taranto, Cameron (Butler, Eddy)


If anyone wants to join my tipping league here is the code 731260


I'm in BC


Cheers BC




Toying with a few ideas, here's one,

Def Simmo, Shaw, Laird, March, Hamp, Stewart, (Hibbert and J. Smith- rookie list with Garland out possible upgrade?)

Mid, Danger, Hanners, Trelor, Fyfe, T Adams(Swing when def have made enough money for fallen prem) Watson(pod), Beams, JOM, – SPP , Barret,Miles

Rucks, SanderWitts, Cameron

Fwd Dal, Buddy, Roughy, Nank, Parfitt, Butler,- Eddy, Houston)

Give us your thoughts

Cheers community


Thoughts on my team

Def: Simpson, Laird, Tuohy, Hampton, Otten, Stewart (Vickers-Willis, Melican)
Mid: Danger, Kennedy, Selwood, Bont, Fyfe, Mitchell, O'Meara, SPP (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt)
Ruc: Gawn, Sandi (Cameron)
Fwd: NRoo, Lynch, Rough, Steele, Miles, Butler (Eddy, Houston)

Rookies will change at the announcement of teams
$4.3k left

Thanks community


whats everyones thoughts on this? im stuck between these 2 picks to finalise my team

Roughead or Steele?
O'meara or d.swallow?


Steele and O'Meara for me.


rough and jaeger


Steele and neither




Pull names out of a hat?


Big quesion.

Rough or Nank?


That's tough.


Surprised that Jock released his team on but hasn't released it on his own website?


Hey ladies and gents, STK Schoolgirls in the house v.510293

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Tuohy, Marchbank, Hampton, Vickers-Willis (Otten, Stewart)
MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Gaff, Beams, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Pickett, Hibberd)
RUCK: Gawn, Sandilands
FWD: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Steele, Hoskin-Elliott, Eddy (D.Cameron, Houston)

3.5k left, rookies dependent on selection as always

DEF: Couldn't split Docherty and Shaw so went both at the expense of getting Laird in at D3. Tuohy only decent option instead to balance the side. Don't absolutely love 3 starting DEF rookies but works in balancing the side, with bargains in the mids and up forward to look at instead.
MID: First four plus Beams all popular/self explanatory picks. For balance went Gaff instead of a full prem to fit Gawn in the middle. Given the fluid ruck situation Gawn may be downgraded and Gaff upgraded given sides. Went O'Meara instead of Swallow so I don't miss out on him having a great year. One of many hard picks to take.
RUCK: As noted, if Spencer plays, Gawn is Gawn to maybe a Grundy (?) and then upgrade somewhere else. Happy to ride the Sandi train until it derails via injury then hopefully I've got the trades to change it up.
FWD: Had Riewoldt and Dahl up forward, but structurally going heavy in the mids means I've had to cut back and go speculating with Buddy and mid-pricers. Getting rid of Gawn could help but I like the Roughead and Steele mid pricers over a Nankervis for example. Rookies will be named closer to game time but I can't help but like Darcy Cameron as both bench and ruck cover in case Sandi goes down early. We'll see how final teams pan out.

Any help, discussion, criticism of the side? I think there is enough POD's in there without stuffing up my structure, and as always picking the right rookies from the start is crucial. Anyway let us know, cheers, Adsy


Sounds like you just 'fitted' Gaff and Tuohy in. Not the best way to pick your keepers


This is why I don't mind having a bit of money in the bank if it means everyone has a place on the team for a reason.


What I mean is never settle on a player cos of budget.


Thanks all for the constructive criticism. Cameron is out due to injury so I've heard, so I'm rethinking my ruck strategy and maybe picking Nankervis. Also Gaff and Tuohy are out as yes they were only picked due to budget constraints. I think I'll have a look at my structures first and foremost from now rather than settling on a structure and fitting in the last few with budget in consideration.

Still plenty to think about! Cheers all.


Hi Guys, I know rookies are slim pickings at the moment but is there any on the horizon we can at least look forward to?
I know MCLUGGAGE and MYERS were popular but now have delayed starts, any other obvious ones?


Berry might not be too far away.
Graham for the Tigers, but no time frame
Ryan from Freo was a hot prospect as a mature age recruit. He may come into calculation later
Long from Saints but might have trouble breaking into the side
Rioli from West Coast in second half of the year


Cheers, Least I can put a few names on the watch list now, fingers crossed.


Myers is 4 weeks away. Could even put him in your team as last midfielder to save a trade to get him in?


lloyd or crouch? and thoughts on z jones


Awkward prices!, I'm of the opinion its on the high-risk low-reward scale. I can't do it. I need a proven performer albeit fallen premium coming back.


Howdy everyone. have 2 spots available in my league. Anyone and everyone is welcome. league number 956695. Thankyou in advance.


Would love some advice guys- currently settled on the following starting lineup

Shaw, laird, mills, marchbank, hampton, stewart.

Danger, JPK, Treloar, ward, JOM, Swallow, SPP

Sandi, Hickey

Buddy, Macrae, Green, Nankervis, Steele, Taranto


I felt like I was looking at a near replica team!

Kimpson Laird Lloyd
Marchbank Hampton VW

Danger JJK
Treloar Priddis Fyfe
Beam Swallow SPP

Grundy Sandilands

Roo Dahl Gunston
Taranto Pickett Butler

With 185K left over I'm unsure of who to upgrade first – Beams? Grundy?


I would upgrade lloyd and save rhe rest incase you need to slot an expensive rookie in.


come and join my league guys 200270


rate my team pls

DEF: Docherty, Adams, Laird, Hampton, EVW, Hibberd (Stewart, Guthrie)
MID: Danger, Pendlebury, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, J.Kelly, Beams, SPP (Bartlett, Wigg, Atley)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strndica)
FWD: Dallhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Taranto, Black, Butler (Pickett, Eddy)

$7,000 in the bank
pretty happy with the side, got a good balance of trusted premo's, rookies and cash generation and potential breakouts/midpricers
let me know what you think


Thoughts on my team community.

DEF: Doch, Laird, tuohy, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten ( EVW, Stewart)

MID: Danger, Treloar, Cripps, Titch, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, SPP ( Barrett, Hibbered, Parfitt)

Ruck: Grundy, Sandi ( Cameron)

FWD: Dahl, Franklin, McCrae, Roughy, Taranto, Eddy ( Pickett, Houston)

I have 2K in the bank which is abit of a worry and suggestions are welcome community.


Where's Jock's final rookie cheat sheet after JLT 3?


Could be my final team how is it looking

B: Shaw, Simpson, Laird, Hampton, Otten, Stewart (Vickers-Willis, Stuart)

M: Dangerfield, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, T.Mitchell, Beams, SPP, Barret (Pickett, Hibberd, Parfitt)

R: Grundy, Sandilands (Cameron)

F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Franklin, Roughead, Taranto, Eddy (Butler, Houston)

Backline: is very standard like everyone else's

Midfield: gorn with one extra on feild rookie jest becasue i can't find anyone else

Ruck: I was thinking about going Nanklaids but stuck by Grundy for now

Forwardline: Gorn with three premos and hoping franklin will have a breakout season winning the coleman


breakout season for Buddy? Pretty sure that was 2008…




Who's this other Stuart guy?


Hey Barron, like the fwd line premos. I was gonna go the same, but got put off by all 3 having the first bye. I know all our teams are gonna look very different by then, but are you concerned by having your 3 big guns out for rd11?




Just need some convincing on starting with nank and sandi.. My personal argument is that I feel if sandi plays at least 17-20 games he could avg anywhere between 105 -115. But obviously that's a big IF! With Nank I feel like he'll play stefan martin role and we know how good he was 2 seasons ago but I need the community to let me know if im talking jibberish or making kinda making sense!!


Thinking of trading Nankervis in the forward line to either Higgins or Ryder. Am leading towards Ryder because he gives me cover in the ruck (Hickey, Sandilands) Thoughts?

Dr John

Late night coaches… here is a league…

The Night Owl Champs – 204168.

All are welcome – just a league for the shift workers and insomniacs that are up at this time.

Best of luck!


Could be my final team how is it looking

B: Shaw, Simpson, Laird, Marchbank Hampton, Otten, (Vickers-Willis, Stewart)

M: Dangerfield, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, T.Mitchell, Beams, SPP, Barret (Pickett, Hibberd, Parfitt)

R: Grundy, Sandilands (Stnridica)

F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Franklin, Roughead, Taranto, Eddy (Butler, Houston)


neil Demons Delight

def same as mine but not happy with def rooks Went beams /vw to brodie/Lloyd looks better good luck mason