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Carlos Supercoach Team Reveal

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Supercoach team reveal

There is no doubt this has been one of the most difficult lead ups to a season in SuperCoach history.

Unlike previous years, we have no Essendon, GWS and Gold Coast leg ups meaning our rookie stocks are bare. Different structures have had to be considered. More mid-pricers entertained. The whole thing makes me sick to the stomach. But it has become a reality.

The other bloody nightmare we face is that a large majority of the popular rookies are playing on Sunday, as flagged in the Jock Reynolds podcast. This means our plans could be thrown into disarray depending on the finalised squads of North Melbourne, Geelong and Adelaide on Friday night. It will be a stressful little period!

However, we must remain calm and every coach should approach this year with a clear goal in mind.  This season I’m aiming to better my overall ranking from 2016. I went pretty well last year, coming home like a steam train after the byes to finish 410th overall. It will be a significant challenge to improve on this, but by learning from my mistakes last year, I think I’m a chance.

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Key lessons learnt from 2016:

  • Limit risk profile. Last season I started Gazza, Rocky and Fyfe in the midfield, only for them to all go down injured early in the piece. This cost me valuable trades. Durability is critical in SuperCoach.
  • Don’t pick players based on pre season form and perceived “role changes”. I started with Daniel Rich at D3 last year. Obviously with the benefit of captain hindsight, it was a terrible move. I got sucked into his pre season form and the dreaded “more midfield time” slogan.
  • Pick premos who will be reliable and definite keepers. My starting forward line premos were Barlow, Tobias Greene and Aaron Hall last year. I rode the roller-coaster with all three, keeping Greene and Hall for the entire season. None of them finished as top 6 forwards.
  • Avoid mid-pricers where possible. But I’m the first to acknowledge this season is different and we have been forced to look at a few more than we would like due to lack of decent rookies. In 2016 I went in with just 2 mid-pricers, this season I’m looking at double that.

Supercoach thinking mate

But, without further ado, here is my side as it stands:

DEFENCE

defence

The biggest risk in my side. The 2-0-6 structure has previously been flagged by Higgo and our good friend Patch has committed to it also. For mine, it’s simple. We have the most valid rookie options in defence out of anywhere on the field, so it makes sense to open up more spots for them.

Heater came out in the last JLT game and went “yeah, nah I’m still a pretty good defender”. I said “yeah, nah good call” and went down from Doch to Shaw at D1. Can’t go wrong either way, I reckon. Shaw will have his ups and downs, but is guaranteed to be a top 6 defender. His ceiling appeals to me more than Doch or Simpson. Lock.

Rory Laird’s risk profile is my only concern with his selection. He looked shit-hot during the JLT and should push up into the midfield more with Adelaide’s lack of depth in this area. However, as highlighted in my Dodging Premium Donuts feature in the Jock Reynolds Fantasy Footy Magazine, Laird has a high risk profile. He’s missed 12 games in the past 3 seasons, ranking him equal 16th (along with Taylor Adams) for durability out of the top 20 defenders during this period. It is for this reason I can’t justify starting with Laird and Adams at the same time.

As Patch has mentioned, Marchbank and Hampton’s job security gives me a degree of confidence to pick them at D3 and D4, and I’m hoping anyone of Otten, Vickers-Willis and Stewart will be good enough to fill the remaining two on-field spots.

MIDFIELD

midfield

The most points traditionally come from this part of the ground so it’s logical to load up on it as much as possible to enhance your team’s point-scoring capacity.

The awesome foursome of Danger, Pendles, JPK and Treloar form the absolute backbone of my side. This quartet are ultra-durable and should all average north of 110. I’m expecting they will miss only 1-2 games between the four of them this season. They are the ultimate set-and-forget players. This allows me to concentre my efforts on strengthening the rest of my side as the year rolls on.

As number one attack dog in Hawthorn’s midfield, I can see Tom Mitchell pushing his average up to 110 and beyond this season. I think he provides some good value and am banking on him to be a keeper.

Fyfe and Beams are the two with significant risk profile, but their high point-scoring capacity is just too valuable to be overlooked.

I’m avoiding the Swallow and O’Meara options to both decrease the risk profile and amount of mid-pricers in my side.

Starting only one rookie on the field is also important I feel. Powell-Pepper and Barrett are the only two decent options in this department and I think it’s imperative to have one of them as bench cover in case a Beams or a Fyfe goes down early in the piece.

RUCK

Ruck by Carl

I just can’t buy into all this #Nankilands and #Wittilands hype. I accept the Nank is a good option as Richmond’s number 1 ruck, which is why I’ll start him at F3 as insurance for Sandi. I think Gawn and Goldy both remain excellent options and it gives me much more comfort to have one of them at R1. I may go down from Max to Goldy to free up some cash depending on rookie selections on Thursday.

FORWARD

forwardInitially I had 3-0-5 structures for my defence and forward lines, but the lack of forward rookies has forced my hand. The Bulldog pairing of Dahlhaus and McCrae are absolute locks in my opinion, and are likely to finish top 6 forwards. Both have upside in their scoring capacity after injury-impacted seasons in 2016.

Nankervis provides ruck cover and should score well in his new role at Richmond. Based on the way he looked in JLT and the fact he has the number 1 ruck role locked in at the Tigers, I think his selection as a forward is a no-brainer.

Jack Steele has been preferred at F4 over Jarryd Roughead. We all know what Roughy can do, but I have my doubts on whether he can hit an average in the 90s after a year out of the game. As with the Essendon boys, it might take him a little bit to find his feet and get up to the speed of the modern game. He’s still a good pick, but this is the logic I’m going with in selecting Steele over him. Plus the fact Steele is 20K cheaper helps with my other structures.

I think Steele is still a risk and am concerned about what his role at the Saints looks like once the real stuff begins. He was brilliant in the JLT, and the Saints love his tough inside work. He can rack up contested possessions and the kid tackles lots as well. If he gets plenty of minutes, I think he will be a great selection. It’s a big ‘if’ though.

Tim Taranto looks an incredibly impressive young kid and worth forking out the extra $ for over a basement rookie in the forward line. Showed plenty in the JLT and should be a certain Round 1 starter considering the Giants’ current injury list.

F6 will be open for a basement rookie, most likely a Brett Eddy. I’m under no illusions this spot might not score well, but if I can get 60s until I’m able to upgrade it, I’ll be happy with that.

Well, there you have it.

All in all, it’s a pretty cookie-cutter side, with not many really ballsy points of difference. But I’ve been burnt in the past by starting with too many speculative picks and I’m not going to make the same mistake this season.

My risk profile is reasonably low and I’m rolling with 4 mid-pricers as well. I’m comfortable with that.

So, let me have it Community. Feel free to unload on me in the comments or tweet me at @carlpfeiffer9

Good luck to everyone in what will be an enthralling season!

Carlos

@CarlPfeiffer9

 

 

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John

Nice team Carl

Nibbles

Wow, near identical side to mine. Have Adams instead of Marchbank, Hanners instead of Tom Mitchell, Witts instead of Gawn and Roughead instead of Steele. Only 4 differences!

INPieman

Nice team Carl. I think you need a rock solid contingency plan in defence if rookies in defence are named on an extended bench & don't make the cut. I can see it happening

Carlos

You are spot on Pie, it's certainly my biggest worry. I have a few back up plans if this is the case. Might have to downgrade T Mitch to another rookie and start Barrett on field at M8. Then I can bring in an Adams or Doch into defence. Selection on Thursday and Friday nights are going to be stressful!

TRIGGER HAPPY

Better get your skates on if it is Doc there will be about 1 hr between when the teams drop and doc gets his first kick and even then if named will be on extended bench. As I said to patch with 6 out of 8 rookies in the back line better have plenty of prozac on hand as gonna be rough as most of those boys play Sunday. .

Billy

Nightmare scenario. Christ some teams will be im disarray

INPieman

Hopefully they all play. But the SC gods don't have a great history of rewarding hope

Billy

Love your work Carl. Its quite similar to mine so I don't have a lot of issues with it.

PODs are overrated at the start of the season anyway, if you get a good one every bastard jumps on by Round 6 and then you're back with the pack.

Recent trends suggest Gawn is becoming less prevalent in sides with most going with the value options.. if the big man goes large you'll be right ahead of the game.

You've avoided the JLT traps and the mid price madness, just a hint of insanity with the 5 mid-pricers, which is a low figure this year.

My only suggestion: do you think Steele and Nank will score better than Roughead? I feel far more comfortable with Rough given he's a proven commodity. But a good side all in all mate, good luck

Carlos

Thanks Billy. I'm more hoping they score better rather than basing it on logic. Probably not the wisest move. Roughy has the runs on the board and has ave in the 90s for plenty of seasons in a row, so I might have to re-think that theory. Might have to swap him for Steele, but I'll wait until teams come out and go on gut feel!

Billy

Its not out of the question. My theory is if Steele and Nank were good enough to average mid 90s then they'd have been getting games in their respective sides last season. Both had good NEAFL numbers but were behind the likes of Naismith and Palmer last season

Carl

Steele will Ave somewhere in the 90's – where abouts in that range is what we'll have to wait for. He is guaranteed lots of midfield minutes at the Saints. They purpose recruited him for a reason. Our line up against the swans in the last JLT game was near full strength and he played a large % of his time in the guts. Good luck!

NorthMelb

What's people thoughts on Priddis having points taken off him by Mitchell.

Billy

I dont think so personally. Priddis has an insatiable appetite for the pill and I think he'd manage to find it no matter who he's playing with.

Theres no evidence that multiple premo mids stop each orher from scoring. Pendleoar, Dangerwood, Sydneys mids etc.

I'd be more concerned about Nic Nat's injury and him being denied first use. But Mitchell's presence shouldnt affect him

Carl

Also Mitchell will have a more outside mid role this year as he's been transitioning towards at the Hawks the last year or 2. Priddis obviously the definition of inside mid and those contested numbers won't change

Jess_Coach

Dammit this team is the same as mine.
Only changes are, i went:

Adams instead of marchbank
Selwood instead of T. Mitchell
And
Roughhead instead of Macrae

Dam you carlos! Lol

Jess_Coach

Oh and a rookie over jack steele

Carlos

Great minds think alike 😉

Joee

Join 116791
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CoachDamo

Looks good Carl.

I was having the same thoughts regarding Roughy and Steele – Roughy has been in my side since Day 1 but I feel like Setele will be a better option.

You're point about rookies in defence is spot on! We need to have the best rookies on the field, regardless of the position they're in and this year it looks like Defence is where we'll find them.

Are you worried about Byes? You'll be without Pendles, Treloar, Fyfe, Mitchell in the Midfield in Round 13 (as well as missing Laird and Shaw).

Carlos

Yeah, byes are a concern. I've always been a bit of a fan of "crossing that bridge when I come to it" with a bit of forward planning. I'll be looking to trade in players up to that period who are playing round 13 to even things out a bit.

Jess_Coach

Round 13 is never a problem. By that stage you would have traded alot of other rounders in. Plus, try as i might, my starting team (even set and forgets) always looks very different by rd 13.

Rick

You shouldn't expect to win all three games during the byes. You should make sure you win 2/3 of them.

Jack

Throw some feedback at me pls community!

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Lloyd, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart
(Otten, Vickers-Willis)

MID: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Treloar, Fyfe, T. Mitchell, Beams, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper
(Barrett, Pickett, Hibberd)

RUC: Martin (if only ruck named), Sandilands
(Cameron/Stndica)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Greene, Roughead, Nankervis, Taranto, McCarthy
(Butler, Eddy)

37k left. Where am I falling down? Still not quite as happy as I want to be when I look at this side..

John James

Like the look of it the only change I'd make would be Buddy for Greene,and that's only because I cant stand the guy,yes I know that shouldn't matter but I just wouldn't be able to hope he did well.

Jack

Cheers JJ and highly considering that. I liked Greene as a POD hoping his consistenceny would improve this year because he sure can play. He doubled in ownership after his 5 snags v North though so may as well go with proven premium rather than potential ay?

Bravis Toak

"There is no doubt this has been one of the most difficult lead ups to a season in SuperCoach history."

Do we not say this every year? 😛

BrownlowBoy

This year with the lack of rookies makes this year far more difficult. Also lots of fallen premiums and mid pricers to tempt people.

Mark

is marchbank a lock? havent seen him play but i see him in heaps of teams

Carlos

Job security very good and the ball will be in Carlton's backline a shitload this season.

Billy

Yeah not for me. Would have to hold his JLT average in the real thing to be worth it and has had injury troubles.

JS is good, at least for now. His spot in the team might be reliant on Carlton playing their No.1 draft pick, who was a defender his whole life, as a key forward.

Mark

cheers guys

Tyruddanaut

Can easy hold his JLT, mate! He's a gun playing for a shit side in defense. How much more can you want

Billy

You reckon he'll average 80 in the season?

CD96

I agree with Billy he's not one for my liking. Dont think he will avg 80 + and can't see him making much money. I also dont like any of the higher priced rookies this season except Hampton but depending on lineups I may have to pick Marchbank.

In blunt terms, for me, he isnt a first picked/locked player but if you need to get him fpr structures then do it.

CoachDamo

I haven't seen much either and initially wasn't interested because of his price.

Then I thought about the fact I went in with Weitering last year at over 200K. The other reason Marchbank appeals is that he plays on Thursday. I won't want to leave him out and then discover some of the other DEF rookies I banked on don't get a game on Sunday.

Randomcliche2

yeah, it works both ways…..I would take a 123k any-day…but with a 2-0-6 structure and Sunday….as Arnie would say I'm going to have to FOR GET DA BOUT IT! If running a 3-0-5 or 4-0-4 then don't hold him….there will be rookies #fingers crossed.

Declan

Interesting Carlos, certainly for some rich was a killer last year.

Thoughts on team would be much appreciated thanks community.

Def: Simpson Laird Lloyd Marchbank Hampton EVW (Otten Stewart)
Mid: Dangerfield Hanners Selwood Treloar Titch Beams JOM SPP (Barrett Hibberd Parfitt)
Rucks: Martin Sanilands (Strnadica)
Fwd: Dahlhaus Macrae Roughy Nank Taranto butler (Houston Eddy)

90k in the bank

Gone without the likes of Fyfe and Adams due to the risk of JOM Beams and roughy. Cant possibly have all those injury/risks in one team and most have Fyfe and Adams so decided to go with those player sin less % of teams like Selwood and Simpson. Hopefully works.

Any comments about team would be much appreciated.

hedski

Fyfe mate. Fyfe.

Russ in W.A

Agree with Hedski, Fyfe Fyfe Fyfe Fyfe and Fyfe, did I mention Fyfe?

Kev

Loved your key lessons from 2016, Carlos. Nothing wrong with taking a punt on a breakout or LTI returnee. It's when you've got these blokes everywhere it becomes a problem, SuperCoach always finds a way screw you over completely!

TRIGGER HAPPY

Seeing Tom Mitchell in Carlos's team gave me an idea.
Last year Addict run a league that had one rule. You had to have Gaz in your team.
If run again this year it would be a pretty exclusive league.
But I thought why not run one with the next big thing – Tom Mitchell or Titch as we know him?
So this is my fun league.

ONLY RULE IS TITCH MUST BE IN YOUR TEAM.

League code is: 612682.

Thinking of a league name of:
Titch to Scratch
Or
7 Year Titch

hit me up in the comments on which one you prefer or if u can come up with another let me know 🙂

So if you have Titch in your team as crouching would say – Welcome.

Billy

#Nankilands league?

Randomcliche2

League full. Oh, well, at least I can drop him when teams are named. If you would like to join my league, please do so 515057 community. Cheers

Seb

Would love your thoughts on this community.

I've been considering nankilands for a while now, but have just thought that what really that wrong with goldy and Gawn?
1) it's not like goldy and Gawn are going to drop completely and not be top ruckman by the end of the year unless they get a a bad injury.
2) there superstars we know that and so do their coaches, I can see their coaches trying new things like preuss and spencer to give them a go so they can be experienced so that when the time comes that goldy and Gawn are gone they can come into the team, but also how can these coaches be that stupid to take out the influence of the two best ruckman in the league for more than a few games.
3) I know Gawn will probably go down in price but what I'm saying is he will still be one of the top Ruckmans comes years end and so will goldy because they are true guns so why not save two trades to get these guys in and start with them both with confidence because we know there proven guns and guys like nankervis is not proven and could be a huge trap, and sandi could get injured any moment despite his great pres season.
This is just my opinion and I might only start with one of these guys but what I'm saying is that at the end of the year I still think they will remain at least the top 3 ruckman in the league.

harry

your correct they may still be top 4 ruckman. but the cash generation from nankilands is tempting and the $$ it'll free up to start premos else where is arousing. im on the nankilands! 650k for them v 1.1m for goldy & gawn. are they really gonna score huge enough to justify that difference… and they will drop in price there's no doubt there.

Randomcliche2

We can't start all the guns, I see little difference between in premo rucks and Mids in terms out output. but like harry says, I agree the risks are higher this year in the rucks than mids….I'm running Beams at M7…..If you can do that with Gawn/Goldy and sleep at night with your rookies, you are better man than me. All the best.

Barney

Don't rate Cam McCarthy as a forward option? Or Ben Ainsworth?

Carlos

I think Taranto will score better for the same money. McCarthy probably has better job security though.

Jake.B

To be honest no. Ainsworth scored two scored below 30 if I recall and McCarthy scored 80 pts by kicking a bag of 5 I think it was? The probably isn't great for someone his price, imagine he only kicks one or goes godless? At their price there are better options

Suttoo

Howe or T.Adams

harry

Howe. more durable better avg once he moved down back last season

Finnius123

I have gone howe as well. Very consistent

Jake.B

Howe

harry

doch, shaw or adams? will shaw be able to shake that forward tag that bought down his scores late last yr??

harry

and Mccarthy v taranto? does taranto have the job security at GWS?

Jake.B

Taranto.

BlueBoy

With Titch being the main hawk in midfield, will he become the tagee instead of the tagger?

Will this have an effect on his output?

What do people think?

harry

this is what worries me so great question! look forward too hearing others thoughts on this because his currently in my mids.
I'm hoping his hard running, toughness and clearence winning ability will still allow him to post scores north of 105 and jaeger can maybe take a tag eventually
.

BlueBoy

Yeah I think JOM will be targeted eventually but early on it will be Titch. JOM still finding his feet (or should I say knees) again so it'll take some time before he is super damaging.

Johnny Bee

BlueBoy as a hawk supporter I think O'Meara will be getting tagged most weeks. As he gets fitter his speed and run will become crucial to the Hawks. Opposition coaches would already know this. Mitchell is more your in & under type. Good Luck!

BlueBoy

Thanks Johnny 🙂

Just based on JLT form (not the best thing to base it on), I think Titch would be viewed as the main threat in the midfield at the moment.

I think that might change once the season starts and JOM has some games under his belt, but I'm sure you've been paying closer attention than I have.

derek

you can say that about most of the premiums

Boltons Blues

Is it worth it or am i batshit crazy doing so, having Wiits at R3?
my set up is
2-0-6
6-1-1
0-2-0
3-1-2

Swans2012

Why not if you've got the cash, especially if your playing nank at r2. might leave the opportunity for a bit of emergency loophole action if you've got strndica or similar floating around…..

derek

i'd prefer to hold the cash, and if for some reason you need him, you use a trade then

Declan

Is witts going to play round 1 and could he justify a selection is R2 behind Sandilands. The cash it frees up is unbelievable!

Blueth

guys! SC rule #1. Is said player any good at football?

Billy

He is I believe. Had excellent numbers in the VFL last year

Swans2012

Sandiwitts has been discussed extensively, looks likely to play round one, is an option….

Blueth

if you're happy to make a little money but bleed points #turnovers

Dean

Thoughts on Grundy as R1?

Sauce

Hes my R1

derek

should finish the year in the top 3, probably not top 2 though. not good enough regards HO to advantage

Jake.B

He was mine when I first started. But gawn and Sandi for me with nankervis at f3

#NANKFORPM

Hey community want some thoughts on this side

Shaw, Laird, Llyod, hampton, otten, hibberd (NM).
EVW stewart.

Danger, pendles, kennedy, treloar, fyfe, titchell,beams, barrett.
Wigg, lyons, parfitt.

Sandi witts
strndica.

Roo dahl lynch nank taranto pickett
Long, eddy.

Bench rookies clearly not set however rookies on field are about done.

Think my problem lies up forward any suggestions how to better it with $21.5k left.

Tyruddanaut

I think you want Powell pepper in your team rather than a risk like wigg

#NANKFORPM

Yeah true, not sure how i missed him!
Cheers mate.

Dr Trade

Your problem is in the ruck Witts = TRAP!

#NANKFORPM

Its nank or witts!

i have nank as back up at F4 hoping one comes off ha ha.

Carl

Why have both then? Law of averages will say 1 is likely to fail – that being the one who's worse at football – Witts. Can't see him ave over 75-80 which won't be enough to make serious $$

Karlos Santana

Throw some feedback at me pls community!

Defence
Docherty, Simpson, Shaw
Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Stewart, Guthrie)

Mid
Dangerfield, Hannebery, Selwood, Treloar,
Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Pickett, Hibberd)

Rucks
Sandilands, Witts (Strnadica)

Forwards
Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Roughead,
Nankervis, Taranto, Eddy (Butler, Houston)

$11,400 in the bank.
Any feed back would be appreciated

Seb

I currently have nank up fwd but I just looked at his first six rounds and he is versing all the teams with the best ruckmans in the league, and he is not a proven premo ruckman, does this worry many?? .

Finnius123

This year there aren't that many 'best ruckmen'

Tyruddanaut

Beams or Tom J Lynch

Randomcliche2

Beams

Swans2012

I'm with you Carlos, I keep cutting Gawn and it doesn't look right, or more importantly feel right. He's in, locked back in, will not leave my team, I'm a little further down the midprice road than you, I think swallow and jaeger are too good value to pass up, the 100-150k they will each make whilst scoring 80-100 is important imho, and keeps midfield spots open to pick up premos as they drop off the perch into bargain territory. Anyway I'm rambling, good luck

Carl

Which Forward would be a good pick up for 490K?

Steeeve

Caddy?

Randomcliche2

Higgins Ryder Nank Steele Roughy Caddy oh, yeah Cyril but I can't do it.

Snowsky

Higgins vs Roughead vs Nankervis

I want all three but need to cut one of them.

Pretending that durability was not an issue (22 games in 2017 from all 3), and no ruck swing is required, who would you pick?

Finnius

roughy for mine

derek

yep, Roughie will be in the mids alot this year

Swans2012

Higgins, greater scoring potential but can't go wrong either way

Randomcliche2

I'm running all 3….if I didn't need the ruck cover #Wittilands Nank would probably go. I think you can add Ryder to the cohort if Lobbe not named.

Ethan

Option 1
pendles, shaw, Taranto in mid and McCarthy fwd.

Option 2
Treleor, Adams, swallow and Taranto fwd

Help me out I feel like option 2 is better but it hurts not seeing Pendles in my team as I haven't not started him since I've played

Karlos Santana

Take the option with the most keepers every time.
Pendlebury and Shaw are 100% keepers. and neither has missed a game the last 2 seasons. How many games is Adams gonna play this year? Reduce your risk

The BONT

Titch or Selwood or Bont

Carlos

Can't go wrong either way

derek

Selwood for me. Gun.

The BONT

Pendulbery and Nankervis
or
Titch and T. J Lynch

Finnius123

B

Casey

First option

Isaiah

Do we start with o'meara over Titch because he could be better or because of the cash he will make? I have enough for for Titch or o'meara, but is the amount of cash o'meara will make enough to warrant his selection over Titch, and do we think Titch will crumble if he gets a most everyweek?

derek

i think you will see JOM struggle to get through games, especially a few weeks into the season. watch his TOG

Poppy

Anyone like mzungu upgraded to senior list

Carlos

$245K. Too expensive for a mid only.

Casey

hell no, dont see him playing very many games this year. Even though i cannot name a bad player with dreads, stay away from him

Don't Blush Baby

Rough or Nank at F4 -who's going to generate the most cash before the byes ?

derek

i see Roughie getting a good run in the mids this year. hawks are looking for a big body to crash and bash and match it with the other teams 6'4' mids

Steeeve

Really noticing all these high price midfields. Making me reconsider my side, I'd especially love Treloar if possible. My issue is going three premos deep in the backline, which I'm dead set on.

How does this midfield look to you?
Danger, Fyfe, Bont, Cripps, Titch, Beams, Jaeger, Swallow (rookies)

I currently have $400 only in the war chest, so no easy way to upgrade to a Treloar/JPK/Hanners/Pendles. But open to suggestions!

derek

i have a problem paying $590k or $578k for a Defender.

i'm going with just Adams, and laird and waiting for the others to get cheaper.

TMitch, Dahlhaus, Buddy, McCrae, Cyril, ….. all cheaper and better value than the expensive defenders, especially when there seems to be some decent cheapie rookie defenders

Steeeve

Yep my three are Adams, Laird and Rance.
I have those guys plus Doc, Shaw, Simmo as my top six.
Still leaves me with five rookie defenders, many of whom play Sunday.

I just downgraded Aaron Black to Dan Houston then went Cripps to Treloar. I feel good about that one. Always wanted Cripps as a trade up.

Derek

be careful with Houston, i see him as a one game wonder. filling in for pittard

Randomcliche2

Thanks Derek….Houston has been in there instead of Black in my team as well…..

John James

I did have three premos in defence but I downgraded Laird for Lloyd,my main concern with your mids are the last three. I only have one of them and the most anyone should have is two.Maybe trade Cripps and Swallow out for Treloar and a rookie.

Steeeve

Yeah I'm just hoping and hoping another decent midfield rookie will present. I'll happily downgrade one of those boys if so.

Jake.B

I think you should only have 1 of JOM and Swallow and play a player like SPP on the field. Will fee you up cash too

Casey

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Where's Jocks rookie cheatsheet?

Randomcliche2

no rookies to put on it 😛 Use the spreadsheet with JLT scores.

Rivo

Like this team Carl. Big risk on the defence line but the mid depth is very good. Do you think Macrae will outscore Buddy at F2?

Carlos

50/50 I think Rivo. The fact McCrae is playing as a pure Mid and has (I think) more upside than Buddy this season (based on last year's aves) helped me justify the decision.

Clock Management

Really like the team overall Mate, I personally don't like Steele but could be a Steal at his price (Pun intended)

Geez rucks are fusterating question marks in every single one,

Carlos

Cheers mate. Yeah Steele still concerns me a bit. We shall see once teams are named on Thursday. His upside is appealing though.

Thom

Anyone looking for a competitive league?

527596

No harm in trying to win the round one cash!

Scyb

Highly competitive league from last year 🙂

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wombatsfc

Excellent stuff Carlos, this is a truly honest and accurate justification of your entire team. I reckon a few teams will change based on what you've written here and how you've written it. Instinct and character type mean that I have to disagree with your philosophy/strategy though.
I agree that it's a tough year rookie wise compared to the last few years but there are probably 20,000 plus players who could say "suck it up young fella, it used to always be like this".
It's time to understand that as far as team selection is concerned 'everything old is new again' i.e. have a look at team structures from winning teams when this current rookie scenario was the norm.
Higgo is sure to have photocopies of those team structures somewhere.

Phil

Guns n rookies used to still win back in those pre Gold Coast days, but you're forgetting 1 vital piece of information. The premium on 1st round rookies was much much less. Off memory Bryce Gibbs (number 1) was bargain priced. A premium was added for Kreuzer (again, number 1) but he was still only 144k. A listed rookie was 94k, compared to now 123k….and a rookie listed player was 83k (who could forget Broughton) compared to now 102k.

Given the salary cap was always 10 mill, it means everyone else was slightly more expensive (magic number different)

We're heading into uncharted waters folks

wombatsfc

Nank v Roughy as of today?
Nank v Roughy after Kruezer towels Nank up like he did Max a couple of weeks ago?

Abel

Kruezer injured in first. VC on Nank's 155 good enough for me.

SCnoob

Team here, thoughts?

DEF – Docherty, Shaw, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis (Ryan, Stewart)

MID – Dangerfield, Kennedy, Treloar, Fyfe, T Mitchell, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper, Barrett (Hibberd, Parfitt, Bolton)

RUC – Nankervis, Sandilands (Strnadica)

FWD – Dahlhaus, Macrae, Caddy, Hrovat, Hoskin-Elliott, Taranto (D Cameron, Eddy)

Precisely $0 left in the bank.

GawdK

Everyone's thoughts on George Horlin-Smith. $234,000. 119ish and 80ish in his two JLT games. Hasn't managed to crack into gee longs best 22 previous years, coming of good preseason form could be a good chance, almost rookie price, gun player potential mid price POD..?

John James

Have him at M8 if that means anything.

Randomcliche2

Great stuff. I had considered as a POD but he just doesn't fit my structure and have taken a different more expensive pod over him. Now that its out there, I think he is a very valid selection, better than Taranto for those running him in the mids for mine.

Carl

Has JLT trap written all over him. Avoid

Spuds

Rance vs Docherty
Just thinking because Carlton also have Simpson and marchbank????

Russ in W.A

Rance is a safe 90 + average but only for the last 2 seasons, before that he was in the 80's for 4 years. Doch will go bigger possibly averaging 110 + and is 56 k more expensive, had his breakout year last season averaging 20 points per game more than the previous year so…your call.

Clokey

Who would you choose Russ? I'd take the Punt on Docherty, I think Rance has recently secured a future beyond football and might be a bit more aware of injuring his body or face

derek

I've updated my list after some great feedback.

My list of cheap rookies under $175k is very thin.

Confident will play round 1.

Hampton
Stewart
SPP
Pickett
Parfitt
Eddy
Shoenmaker
Turner
Simpkin
VickersW
Butler

In my "Highly likely" group I have:

Hibberd
Otten
Atley
Barrett
Cameron
Brodie
Houston
Black
Florent

And in my "Possibles" list I have

Moutford
McKay
Cameron
Durdin
Wigg
Miles
Gallucci
Greenword
Melican
Bowes
Hayward
Chol
Guthrie
TSmith

Does anyone have players to add?

Reports as to chances of playing etc.

Thomas

As a Cats man I'm not sure Black is currently in our best 22. Didn't do much in the 2nds on the weekend. Think Guthrie has a better chance of getting a game assuming he can get promoted off the rookie list.

Browncow

Eade said again on Friday that Bowes and Ainsworth are in the mix for round 1 without mention of Brodie. Brodie looked pretty good in JLT 2 but might not have convinced Rocket he is ready after limited pre season. Stewart slipped under my radar – must get some games.

Juzzy

Apparently Balic had ripper in the WAFL. So maybe a possible.
It is Ross though so that may mean "possibly debuting in 2019".

Great list btw.

Clokey

Which McKay? Is it true that Marboi Chol's name is pronounced MyBoyJoy?

Derek

either McKay, don't think either will get a game round 1 😉

Juzzy

Oh yeah.

Tim English. Bevo's a big fan and the Dogs have no rucks.
Even if named round 1 (which is a possibility) please don't .

Derek

That's why I didn't add him

Abel

Kelly to surprise with naming over often (crows)? Scores well when playing.

Top Hawk

Perhaps you can add Harley Balic and Griffin Logue to either your "Possibles" or even "highly likely groups". Both had very good games for Peel Thunder in the WAFL on Saturday. I would not be surprised to see at least one of these guys on Freo's extended bench for their match against the Cats on Sunday. Cheers

Derek

Simpkin is pretty much locked in. Doesn't look good for hibberd or VickersW though. latest from the roos

derek

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Russ in W.A

Nice one, thanks Derek.

Nifty

Thanks Derek..