LekDog-Team-Reveal

Well community, here we are again for the third yearly team reveal of Lekdog’s Puppies.

What an offseason it has been. I traveled to America and spent many hours pumping teams into the Higginator, upon my return I began creating teams in the Supercoach selector, and now I lay my team before you.

This isn’t my first iteration by any stretch of the imagination; in fact I have 47 screenshots of different teams across my desktops. And like the use of carbon dating in the polar icecaps to trace global warming, I can trace my insanity across the last three months by flicking through a few of these pictures…it has been a long road.

Am I happy with my team? No. Am I confident with my team? No. Did I ignore the 10 Commandments article that Patch and I wrote? Yes. Am I going to have fun going with a new strategy? You better believe it!

MY STRATEGY

I’ve done the guns and rookies thing, it’s worked and it keeps me in the top 1% every year, but 2017 is the year that I make a splash. Maybe I don’t win the $50K but hear me now; I will beat my 2016 best weekly ranking of 10th this year.

How am I going to do it? #Nankilands…or more accurately some midprice madness, but it all starts in the ruck.

MY PLAYERS

RUCKS

Rucks

On the 24th of February I first floated the idea of #Nankilands, mostly out of humor, a little out of fear, and if I’m honest a little out of arousal. Still in its infancy, the outlandish idea of #Nankilands was yet to even receive a hashtag I would repeat many times over the next few weeks.

Very few were convinced…

HiggoTweet

Even I had my doubts…

TweetNest

But one man inspired a glimmer of hope in my idea and it reshaped my entire preseason, that man of course was the Father of Fantasy.

FOF

So why does #Nankilands excite me? It’s the potential for high point production combined with a low price tag allowing for premium purchases around the ground.

I am hoping that Toby Nankervis will end 2017 as a keeper in the forward line. He is the number one ruckman at Richmond and averaged 102.3 Supercoach points on just 77.6% time on ground throughout the JLT series.

Aaron Sandilands is not a midprice player in my eyes. He is a fallen premium, which is a major distinction in my eyes. Sandilands will play 6 of his first 9 games at Domain Stadium, which is big because it will hopefully alleviate any risks of the big fella being rested. He also averaged 100.5 Supercoach points from 72% game time across the JLT series.

If Nankervis can average 89 and Sandilands can average 90 then by Round 10 the #Nankilands duo will have produced 1,790 points and $214,286 in accrued value. All this for the price of Max Gawn!?! Where will I spend all my free cash? Pretty much in my defence.

Just for clarity, Darcy Cameron will probably become Strnadica for loophole purposes.

DEFENDERS

Defenders

I have elected to go one “premium” deeper than most in the defensive line. This has been a point of contention amongst my peers but I feel it will pay off dividends.

The first thing you’ll notice is that I’ve broken my own key rule and outlaid more than 10% of my total budget on my D1 and D2 positions. I am doing so for job security and consistent scoring.

I see Kade Simpson as maintaining a 100+ average under Brendan Bolton’s defensive structure. Nothing puts me at ease like seeing Simmo don the long sleeves on a cold afternoon and generally that translates to Supercoach relevancy #SleeveWatch.

Similarly Heath Shaw is as good as they come in defence and whilst some people have fears that he’ll be tagged out of games, his 2016 high score of 203 eases my mind. Sure he had some low scoring games but he was still the third ranked defender for total points in 2016.

Sure both of these older players will lose cash but the pair have missed a combined 6 games over the last three years and should award me with 2100 points by Round 10.

Rory Laird has been in and out of my side this preseason but ultimately if he can get his body right he won’t dip below $500K in 2017. He played very well in the preseason JLT Series and looks set to run through the midfield in the real deal. Lock him in.

Finally I have another midprice breakout contender in my side, Jake Lloyd. Last year I selected Dane Rampe who ended up the 13th ranked defender and this year I think that Lloyd, who finished as the 15th ranked defender in 2016, can reach even higher in 2017. Over his last 10 games (including finals and JLT Series) Lloyd has averaged 98.6 Supercoach points, which is about what I’d expect him to average throughout 2017.

Whilst I’m aware of a decent number of rookies available for our backlines I’m confident that the four I have selected are the best in terms of cash generation and job security.

Hampton tore up the preseason averaging 88 from 76.3% game time; Otten averaged 85.3 from 85% time on ground, Vickers-Willis averaged 65.3 from 83.6% and finally Stewart averaged 62.3 from 83.6% game time. These four players appear to be our best bet for backline security.

MIDFIELDERS

Midfielders

The core five players in my midfield haven’t changed this preseason.

Patrick Dangerfield had 18 scores of 101+ in 2016. For the second time this year I’m going to list them and then write nothing else on him.

162, 166, 137, 132, 129, 132, 127, 124, 229, 173, 110, 135, 140, 111, 144, 101, 131, 155.

Scott Pendlebury is probably the least secure of my five uber-premiums due to concerns over his calf but if he’s named in round 1 I’ll lock him away. Since 2008 Pendles has been the second best player in the competition and I see no reason as to why that would change in 2017.

stats

Josh P Kennedy, Joel Selwood and Nat Fyfe (#FyfeIsLife) should all end up as top 8 averaging midfielders come the end of 2017. JPK sits in my midfield as a consistent performer and bye round captaincy option whereas Selwood and Fyfe are in my side for their explosive performances and ability to break games open.

Dayne Beams is my biggest risk in the midfield but I’m willing to risk a trade for his upside. Beams averaged 113.2 Supercoach points across 77 regular season games between 2011 and 2015. He basically didn’t play in 2016 and whilst his body is a concern I believe that Brisbane are confident that he’ll be back to his best as is evident in the club giving him the captaincy.

Running two on field rookies is a risk but I believe that I have offset the potential point loss of not running an O’Meara/Oliver across the rest of my premiums. My rookies are obviously subject to change but I think that Sam Powell-Pepper and a combination of Parfitt/Barrett will allow for consistent point production and cash generation.

FORWARDS

FORWARDS

Straight away you’ll notice I’m riding a rollercoaster in the forwardline. But when you’re going for overall ranking rather than league wins I don’t think it matters if you get a little bit sick on the occasional big drop.

Josh J Kennedy is perfectly priced for mine, and is ranked as the number one select option for forwards in the Jock Reynolds Magazine. He was the highest scoring forward in 2016 and has only missed three games in the last four years. Yeah he’s going to drop a 50 but he’s also going to score 150 against the Blues…swings and roundabouts.

Luke Dahlhaus has been in and out of my side due mostly to his huge team selection percentage (currently at 42.2%). Between 2013 and 2015 Dahl was the second highest scoring forward with 5,851 points (surprisingly behind Jack Gunston who is still fighting hard to make the Puppies). If he can stay on the park, which I think he will, then he’ll be a top 3 forward for 2017.

Hey remember this?

HiggoStatus

So yeah I’m ignoring that thanks to the beloved Patch, so when this backfires direct your Tweets saying “I told you so” towards him and not me. Shaun Higgins is in my side despite history and logic telling me not to select him. I watched every North Melbourne game this preseason and Higgins looked good, really good. He averaged 97 from 65% game time in a depleted Kangaroos outfit. I would expect him to average 90 (which will get him close to a top 8 forward) and I’m hoping he can play 20+ games…YOLO.

Jarryd Roughead was in one of my Top-5 articles as a must have. It has taken me a while to actually lock him in but damn he looks good at F4. He’s priced to average 70.8 and I think that conservatively he could average 85 in 2017, making him the perfect F6 at a very cheap price. His role in the JLT also intrigued me as he was basically playing on-ball when not resting forward…I think he’s a very good selection.

Our forwardline rookies are actually pretty decent this year despite the fact that most of them play on Sunday in Round 1. Eddy and Houston have been upgraded for Port and with Pittard out, Houston at least has good job security playing off halfback. Miles and Butler are easily interchangeable with Schoenmakers, Turner etc.

 

SUMMARY

So there we have it community, Lekdog’s Puppies Round 1 side for 2017. There’s a fair bit of risk involved in my structures but I still think that I have 15 potential keepers in my side.

I’ve played it safe every year for as long as I remember so why not try adding some excitement to my 2017 in the form of a rollercoaster/injury prone Supercoach side? If it all goes to hell, well we have 30 trades.

As I say every year, picking your Round 1 side is the easy part but trading your way to glory is where it gets hard.

Let me know what you think in the comments or on Twitter community and may the Supercoach gods shine down upon us all.

You can Tweet Lekdog at @LekBlog

(the hashtag #Nankilands will attract his attention)

470 Comments

John · 16/03/2017 at 21:34

Ballsy ruck combo and Higgins that could make or break you lek otherwise a very good team

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:06

    I'm happy with the rucks but Higgins worries me, yolo

      King · 16/03/2017 at 22:52

      Gotta love watching those unique players though!!!(when they score well).

      Tim Smith · 17/03/2017 at 00:43

      maybe get Steele for Higgins? has produced well over the JLT

      bruderboy · 18/03/2017 at 15:31

      Love it Lekdog. I've gone TheNank too but he's sitting at F4 at the moment with Roughy in F3. I can't get myself to go Higgins been burned before.

ekcjoe · 16/03/2017 at 21:47

I like this.

And I like the magazine, too, because it gave some consideration to taking more risks than usual. After all, are we looking for a respectable third in our little league, or something a bit more interesting? And, if there were a year to take a few risks, would it not be this one?

Supercoach is in its infancy. Many of the Golden Rules of selecting a team – whilst based on lots of data – are based on a very few overall years of competition.

#Nankilands it is.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:05

    Thanks mate, I'm really happy with the team and agree with your sentiments

Eric_the_Red · 16/03/2017 at 21:48

Love it Lek. Great write up too. Interesting justifications. Did you ever consider running Ryder in the fwd line as back up? Seems to be in decent touch.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:05

    He was in and out but ultimately I think he'll drop off quickly like a lot of the essendon boys, don't think i need cover at this early stage

Isaac · 16/03/2017 at 21:50

Taylor Adams ? Thoughts everyone I'm concerned never played over 18 games but feel he will average top5 numbers but not sure how many games

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:05

    Will play pure mid but I'm not taking him, too many injuries for mine. Could be a worthy risk though

    bUCKET__ · 17/03/2017 at 12:11

    I'm not 100% sold. But the DPP could be bloody useful to swing into the mids if there's some good cashcows in def and a lack of mid ones.

    Zos · 17/03/2017 at 13:34

    Won't play more than 18 games this year either. Some blokes just break down.

      The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 14:10

      Had his best preseason ever…worth the risk in my book.

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 19:44

    It's a tough one. Looks anywhere from 5-10pts underpriced but his durability record is an absolute shocker. Has had a fantastic preseason which no doubt reduces that risk somewhat but I wouldn't blame coaches looking elsewhere, as frankly he's very unlikely to burn you for not picking him especially in SC with his ordinary DE in the past.

    And should he fall over midseason there will now be a stack of coaches who have that headache to deal with just like all those coaches who jumped on Lids late last season believing his unreliable body would hold up. But if Adams can play 20 plus games he will absolutely finish as a top 6 defender.

Rivo · 16/03/2017 at 21:59

Nice team Lek. I do like Lloyd at D4 and having the DPP swing with Hibberd. And thats the trade off in having a rookie set up at F5-8. No DPP ruck cover in the Forward line?

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:04

    Closest thing to ruck cover I considered was running Nank at F5 and Witts at R2. Don't rate Ryder early in the year so there is no realistic cover outside of rookies imo.

    Will trade up on Sandi early is the plan

      Kevan · 17/03/2017 at 12:17

      Have Darcy Cameron as an onfield rookie in the forward line Lek. Looks better with Nankilands set-up.

        Kevan · 17/03/2017 at 12:26

        Just noticed, no loop hole rookie?

          LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:44

          Not at this stage but I'll probably chuck one in

JJhsn · 16/03/2017 at 22:08

Rough or no

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:39

    Rough

Captain Risky · 16/03/2017 at 22:09

Good team, I like the structure. I think you might need a backup plan in the forward line though, can't see Miles getting a game. might need to lighten the defence a tad, or Witts R2, Nank F5

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:40

    My Hawks people are saying he's in line fore early games but yeah he's up in the air atm

meph · 16/03/2017 at 22:09

I wish I had the stones to pick Higgins and im a North fan. Love the structure, might have to play around with mine a little. Good luck for the season ahead.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:40

    Thanks Meph, it'll be interesting for sure.

wombatsfc · 16/03/2017 at 22:12

Thanks for the headsup on Nank mate in return I need to tell you that Beams isn't your biggest midfield risk your M7 and M8 are

    Spifflicator · 16/03/2017 at 22:29

    Not really,as most will run rookies at 7&8 or you will struggle for cash generation,plus it's easy to swap rookies if they fail. Mid pricers are notoriously difficult to get out of early in the season,when you lack the cash to upgrade,and hence have the ability to 'stuff your team' as Jock is so fond of telling us. Sandi is the other big risk,as his toe is made of glass,and the only trade option will be Witts who has papier-mâché hands!

      wombatsfc · 17/03/2017 at 08:11

      Really? How can you possibly state that most will be running rookies at M7,8? Have you seen more than 100,000 starting teams?
      Most of the teams that I've seen have JOM at M8 and no onfield rookies/1st gamers at all.

        Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:07

        I don't rate the midfield rookies JS so will be running JOM at M7.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:41

    I think we'll get enough out of our rookies, we do every year

      throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 20:30

      A certain degree of faith is required. Going JOM at M8 is an overreaction, in my humble opinion.

James · 16/03/2017 at 22:15

Laird, Taranto and omear
Or
Howe, roughy and swallow

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:41

    B

    Adam · 16/03/2017 at 23:31

    All but Howe

      LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:41

      Howe almost made my side, freaking gun when Bucks doesn't piss about with his positioning

    Harvey · 17/03/2017 at 11:37

    A. Laird is consistent, Taranto is a solid rookie option and O'Meara is a gun.

MarkyV12 · 16/03/2017 at 22:18

Like to hear your thoughts on why you've gone for Simmo over the Doc. I can't bloody split em, want both but may affect me with byes

    Marcus · 16/03/2017 at 22:20

    simmo is only in 5% of teams

      MarkyV12 · 16/03/2017 at 22:25

      picking a pod for the sake of them being in a lower % of teams isn't the right reason to be picking him. If he's going to be outscored by the bloke everyone else has then your not benefitting yourself at all.

        Marco_Polo94 · 16/03/2017 at 22:54

        I think Simmo is much more than a pod for the sake of it…. he's an uber premo who has got the job done for many years, averaged 92+ for the past 8 years. Docherty's breakout year only improved Simpson's average so I can't see that changing this season. If anything Doch will receive more attention leaving Kade to do what he does best. Can't go wrong with either.

          MarkyV12 · 17/03/2017 at 18:42

          I agree both will be good. Probably end up 1 and 2 again. completely understand your thinking also, nice.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:42

    Cheaper (just), POD, History and Docherty is my favourite player in the comp but I saw Melbourne targeting him which was enough to scare me off.

      John James · 17/03/2017 at 00:45

      Yes the Dees did Target him but he still scored 95 so I'm happy to have him as my D1. Also happy you picked Lloyd although I have him at D3.

SCaddict · 16/03/2017 at 22:18

This is about as close to traditional GnR as I think you can go in 2017. I see you are not currently buying into the popular $200K rookie options either like Marchbank and Taranto.

And whilst you are definitely limiting your midpriced risk compared to many teams your rookie risk looks kind of high for my liking. Sure whilst many of those forward and mid rookies may actually get named Rd1 their JS and/or scoring output could prove very dodgy indeed and it may leave you a little exposed should some of them get dropped in the opening month or just spud it up. This is the worst rookie class we have seen in a long while hence the attraction of midpricers and a few of the $200K rookies.

At least you are going with ultra tried and true premos for the most part so the risk of any of those selections backfiring is fairly low. And good on you Lek for living and breathing #Nankilands. It should be a central talking point for much of the early season so it will be fascinating to see how that all pans out either for good or bad.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:44

    Haha it'll probably backfire and I'll look like an idiot.

    Agree re: crap rookies but I'm pretty certain I'll be able to hobble my way through the early rounds

guest · 16/03/2017 at 22:18

you nankilands fanboys play it so safe in the ruck.

#wittilands

did you consider steele among your roller coaster forwards?

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:45

    Briefly but my St Kila people talked me out of it, a lot of jostling for the best 22 in the Saints and I predict his position will be inconsistent. He'll be forward more than mid.

    I was running with Sandi, Witts and Nank in F5 for a long time

      Plums for days · 17/03/2017 at 14:46

      What was your justification on opting against Witts? This is my current set-up and reasonably content with going balls-out at this stage

BigPete · 16/03/2017 at 22:22

Hey Lekdog,
Love your team and your magnificent justification.
I will be cerebally masticating this article with great delight for some time.
Your risk profile is askew.
End of last season we said:
1. No injury risks next season
2. Up and coming mids will shine
3.Guns an Rookies, no mid price. Period.

Have you followed these 2017 golden rules?

P.S Regret the Period thing………..

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:46

    Oh I've broken every rule in the book!

    Beams, Sandi and Higgo as injury risks

    Nank and Lloyd as breakout options…

    Gonna be fun

      BigPete · 16/03/2017 at 22:51

      Which of these will be the easiest to cull ?

        LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:42

        Only one I'm locking in as a cull is Sandilands at about Round 10/11/12 whenever he has his bye

Boydo · 16/03/2017 at 22:25

Is the room for Bonner and Houston in Ports team because you think Bonner would be picked over Houston?

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:46

    I think with pittard out they both make the cut

Finnius · 16/03/2017 at 22:34

Lekdog out of interest what is the projected score for the puppies?

Also just wanted to get the communities thoughts on whether this is important or not.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:47

    1820 in SC but about 2100 in the Higginator

    SCaddict · 16/03/2017 at 22:47

    I wouldn't pay one lick of notice to the projected score. With so many rookies onfied and fallen premiums to start the season it's very misleading indeed.

    So a slightly better projected score than another team this early in the season does not necessarily equal a better team.

      LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:42

      What Addict said

    Kev · 16/03/2017 at 23:34

    I hate projected score. It's rubbish. Doesn't take into account any variables

Stirlsy · 16/03/2017 at 22:34

Can't bring myself to going with them 2 rucks, it looks good other then that, yr not taking a backup for Sandi in either, ballsy move Lekdog other then that its hard to fault yr team
Good luck 4 the season Lek…

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:47

    Cheers mate, hopefully if it goes wrong I'm the only one who fails and you can all laugh at me…I'll take one for the team

Bells E Bubb · 16/03/2017 at 22:39

I hate the whole team reveal concept. Though I enjoy reading about it. Best done after rnd 1 lockout imo.
The temptation to copy is great for many. So many same same teams in league play.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:49

    I hear ya but people love it!

    Personally I'm never in copy-cat leagues but I understand the fear that inexperienced people will copy…

    Hopefully my team's a bit different and it goes ok

      GNR · 16/03/2017 at 23:19

      Starting team is critical to a good start but trading through the year makes or breaks you. Ppl cant copy your trades mid season.

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:16

    True dat GNR, some people who are timepoor and have no time to research will just copy one of the experienced guy's teams, but ultimately, it's how and who you trade and when you trade that makes or breaks your season.

Stirlsy · 16/03/2017 at 22:43

What cash do you have left over Lekdog???

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:51

    $6,300 :/

      SCaddict · 16/03/2017 at 23:03

      Not a believer in the Sandi rainy day fund btl and I thought I was a tight arse when it came to starting bank balances ha ha.

      More seriously you are going to be ultra limited making rookie corrections in the first couple of rounds and you can forget about jumping on some of the more expensive rookies like Taranto or Marchbank should they take off.

      So it may be worthwhile downgrading say a Pendles to a Treloar or another $600K mid to at least build that bank up to around the $50K mark to have some sort of wriggle room for early corrections. Also going Preuss to Strnadica as you mention is likely will help out a little too.

        LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:45

        I very rarely leave any cash in the bank, there's a few places where I might be able to save a little coin but honestly I have no intention of grabbing the $200K rookies even if they go nuts the first two weeks so correctives shouldn't be too difficult

Danners · 16/03/2017 at 22:52

A good looking team Lek! I like it other than JJK and Higgins. JJK just is too inconsistent for me, and Higgins well you have the graph there. Shouldn't his average remain low? Even if he does well, he's getting long in the tooth and fragile bones

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:46

    Higgins my only concern but I liked what I saw during the preseason (blame Patch). JJK might be inconsistent but long term he'll be the second highest scoring forward and I'm all about long term

      Patch · 17/03/2017 at 01:07

      #sorrynotsorry

G · 16/03/2017 at 22:59

Looks a team with great potential, good effort Lek!

Was thinking about rolling with a similar structure in the rucks but taking it that one step further – Sanditts. To say this will make or break my season is somewhat of an understatement. One thing it does allow is for all 3 rucks to be sorted for less than the price of Gawn, allowing me to fit 12 undisputed absolute top tier premiums into my lineup. Let's see what you guys think :

D: Docherty, Simpson, Shaw, Marchbank, Hampton, Vickers-Willis (Newman, Stewart)
M: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Hannebery, Treloar, Selwood, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Wigg, Hibberd)
R: Sandilands, Witts (Strn)
F: Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Taranto, McCarthy, Black, Pickett (Parfitt, Eddy)

Cheers

    GNR · 16/03/2017 at 23:18

    Been contemplating witts too, not sure if I can sleep well enough to do it! plus I couldn't quite get that extra premo in that I wanted using witts as ive gone heavy in defence but also heavy in mids.

      G · 18/03/2017 at 09:25

      Witts is definitely risky but he could potentially work in certain team structures, though sleepless nights do beckon as you mention!

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:49

    The way to think about Witts (whioch I have a lot) is that by having him at R2 you're not actually costing yourself a keeper. You're playing an onfield rookie in the rucks and a keeper elsewhere. Your team probably has about 13 keepers in it right now (maybe one short than would make me comfortable) but rather than having one of those keepers in the ruck you've got a rookie instead. If you think Witts will be more productive than an alternative rookie in an alternative position then lock him in.

    To me it's about total keepers in your starting team but not where those keepers are located. PS that midfield is crazy deep

      G · 18/03/2017 at 09:29

      My thinking exactly re Witts. I concede that I am probably a keeper short in the starting lineup but with some tinkering I could probably squeeze one more in somewhere, and I'm confident the calibre of my keepers and the extra scoring capacity of my higher priced rookies will make up for the lack of keepers as well. Cheers for the feedback as always!

    sharmanism · 17/03/2017 at 00:02

    Ballsy but I like it!

      G · 18/03/2017 at 09:30

      Cheers!

    dom · 17/03/2017 at 00:05

    Good heavens that mid runs deeper than Elton John's rear.

    Randomcliche2 · 17/03/2017 at 00:57

    Love it. One risk is dips in prices of multiple premo mids that you may wish to snare…but hey should be fun. I wish there was a Web cam for when people open up their round match against you and see that midfield….#soiledpantface!

      G · 18/03/2017 at 09:33

      That's one risk I'm willing to take, and wouldn't that webcam be great to see! Cheers and good luck for the year!

    Sana · 17/03/2017 at 16:26

    DOOOOOD! That midfield is maniacal!! If it holds out all season you'll be laughing all the way to the bank! Good luck brave G.

      G · 18/03/2017 at 09:31

      That's the plan! Cheers and good luck to you to!

Marco_Polo94 · 16/03/2017 at 22:59

Love the JJK selection Lek, been toying with him all preseason, especially after seeing how good eagles have looked so far. I've actually selected Lloyd in my real dream team but he hasn't made the cut in my supercoach, think he will be in for a solid year though mate, hope your D4 structure pays off and your two mid rookies don't burn ya! Some nice pods mixed with safe premos should see you do well again, I wish you all the luck in the world my friend.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:50

    Thanks mate, really appreciate you taking the time to comment. JJK might be up and down but he'll score a hell of a lot of points overall!

    If my two rookie mids strategy doesn't work, oh well I'll have to burn a couple of trades.

Pies · 16/03/2017 at 23:09

Lek I was shocked when I saw ur team very similiar to mine…..I play you in the shark tank (sir throtts-a-lot)…now I'm rethinking ……pods.don't want it to look like I copied…..hate that.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:51

    Haha mate I believe ya, doesn't matter how our teams start out they are going to finish wildly differently. Back your independent selections

      Pies · 17/03/2017 at 01:24

      True lol

Phildev · 16/03/2017 at 23:10

Ballsy team LekDog. Don't think I'd sleep to well but no guts no glory.
Your views on picks is appreciated.
If your planning to trade up Sandi early, I'm buggered if I can work out 15 keepers? Please elaborate.

    SCaddict · 16/03/2017 at 23:45

    I count 4 defenders, 6 mids, 1 ruck (Nank as a future FWD) and 4 forwards as the 15 potential keepers in a best case scenario.

    You are not starting Roughie, Higgins, Lloyd and Beams if you don't expect them to be keepers. Some of those guys may not survive the entire season but that would at least be the hope, otherwise I wouldn't bother picking them if you are just expecting them to be mere stepping stones only.

    For to be decent stepping stone material a player typically needs to generate at least $150K, and if any of those guys increased by $150k they would almost certainly be a top player in their position and therefore would not need to be upgraded.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:53

    If all goes well (which it won't) I keep Shaw, Simmo, Laird, Lloyd, Danger, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Nank (in forward line), JJK, Dahl, Higgins (unlikely) and Roughead. Maybe it's more like 14 keepers if you account for Higgins burning me

GNR · 16/03/2017 at 23:16

Great team and explanations for your choices Lek, I agree with you in defence going heavy and those 4 rookie choices. Mids and defence are safest options to lock away players straight up! good work.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:53

    Cheers GNR, love your work

harry · 16/03/2017 at 23:17

hello everyone. cant decide on midprice mayhem options!
DEF: thurlow or marchbank down back and why?

MIDS: JOM or swallow? and why…

thanks in advance

    GNR · 16/03/2017 at 23:25

    JOM every day, marchbank has better job security over thurlow even though for some reason they dub thurlow the Enright replacement.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:54

    Marchbank will be a key cog in the Blues defence, will be given benefit of doubt and should average close to 80. Don't think we can say the same for Thurlow.

    Jom will outscore Swallow but won't play every game.

lostlarrikin · 16/03/2017 at 23:30

Holy poppin-pantlegs Lek!
Rockin MPM to the extreme.

No doubt plenty will roll three of Beams, Sandi and Crevice but gates have been flung wide open here and the ponies are in the wind.

I think Lloyd is a reasonably safe option for the money and will push top 12 defender.
Roughy has many divided, not sold on him being an F8, expensive stepping stone perhaps.
Oh man, Higgins! No!
I had him in a version for nearly 20 hours, ended up sharting in my party dress and took it as a sign. Yanked him straight out.

Big plums, big pantleg, big reward.
Kudos and prayers.

    LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:55

    Haha I knew Higgins would be the sticking point for most, maybe I'm just trolling.

    Roughy is tough, maybe he can become a F9 floater at worst?

      SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 00:12

      If Higgins can stay on the park I think he has a strong chance of finishing a top 8 forward. Looks in ripping nick right now and appears to have a juicy SC role this season so here's hoping.

      lostlarrikin · 17/03/2017 at 01:04

      I like Trolls.
      Especially the pretty ones with pink hair.

      The wasteland that is the mid rookie pool will cause great gnashing of teeth come next Thursday.
      I suspect you will be the victim of troll counter attack Lek and Higgins ownership will reach 40% by lockout.

      Now I want to see you whack the C on him 🙂

Nick · 16/03/2017 at 23:36

Hannebery and butler
Or
McCarthy and Macrae (already have Taranto)
Cheers community !!

Kev · 16/03/2017 at 23:49

#Nankilands is a risk. Good on you Lek for wearing it and moving on. Maybe Preuss at R3 and Cameron fwd (if both play) gives you just that little bit of flexibility if everything goes upside down early.

No obvious non playing captain loophole player

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:37

    Yeah that's what I'm banking on, no captain option at this stage is an issue but we'll see how R1 looks

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:56

Hanners and Butler

sharmanism · 16/03/2017 at 23:59

Nice team Lekdog and great to see someone else running with Higgins!

#Nankilands certainly opens up a lot of options. I'm running with it with Witts at R3 as cover.

Hopefully I won't be making too many more changes to my team. Right now it's:

Doc, Shaw, Laird, Hampton, Ottens, Stewart (EVW, Long)

Danger, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, TMitch, MCrouch, Beams, SPP (Hibberd, Miles, Pickett)

Nankilands (Witt)

NRoo, Dollhouse, Higgins, Tarranto, Turner, Eddy (Cameron, Houston)

I've gone large in the midfield and am hoping that I'll have 14 keepers from my starting line up.

Thoughts?

    Northernsoul74 · 17/03/2017 at 11:17

    A lot of cash tied up having Witts at R3. If you're going to pick him you need to start him.

      LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:38

      he can just swing nank for cameron and run Witts on field depending on the weekly matchup

Andos · 17/03/2017 at 00:05

Hey LekDog, curious about your Roughie "F8" comment, do you see him as eventual bench cover rather than a stepping stone to cull around the byes? No criticism, genuinely interested to know if others plan ahead for reliable late season bench cover as it's always been an oversight of mine.

    Randomcliche2 · 17/03/2017 at 01:16

    It got me confused as well and then he mentioned F9 an hour ago. Perhaps midfield number of spots confusion? Perhaps someone more learned than me can help out / correct.

    And yes, I normally aim for Mid/def premo and a mid/fwd premo with a total of 24 premo players….though I often finish with no trades left with a number, 4-6ish, of rounds to go.

    Interested to know what others aim for as well.

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:39

    Hi Andos and Random. I think that Roughy will push for an F6 position. I see him as a keeper rather than a stepping stone however if he ends up averaging say 85 I may sit him on the bench at F7 for the final few weeks, you were right about the wrong position numbers.

Daizy · 17/03/2017 at 00:47

No captaincy loophole player Lek? Or u think hibberd or Cameron don't get named and take it from there?

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:12

    I'm sure Lek will engineer an appropriate loophole once the team sheets drop next week.

    By my guesstimation a loop is worth about 20pts per round on average or about 400pts a season so it's a necessary tool for all serious Supercoaches.

Billy · 17/03/2017 at 01:31

To your point on JJK Lek, his erratic scoring still matters if youre playing for rank because he can be picked up on the cheap after a couple of his stinkers, which is why I'm not starting him.
Like many I have an aversion to risk in the rucks but Christ this year is giving me a headache.. mainly Jake Bloody Spencer. #Nankilands might be the way to go as there is minimal risk, worst case for Nankervis is that he hangs around as bench cover in our finished teams. You might have solved the ruck riddle a month early!

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:46

    Yeha I think his DPP is what makes him a potential keeper even if it's on the bench.

    In response to JJK, I'm assuming in the same vein I'll be able to pick up Roo, Buddy etc. when they are cheap. It all balances out

Dee · 17/03/2017 at 02:20

No one keen on R. Gray this year…. I've got him locked in my team and just can't move him, not owned by a lot of teams. #POD

    sharmanism · 17/03/2017 at 07:45

    Will be looking at him seriously post bye.

    jezzahill · 17/03/2017 at 11:34

    His injury-interrupted pre-season is a worry. Will look at him after his bye.

    Holty · 17/03/2017 at 11:49

    Rd9 bye hurts him

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:36

    Was in my team for a long time but the bye is a deal breaker

    Steeeve · 17/03/2017 at 17:04

    Mate everyone is bringing him in after his bye, hopefully at a significant discount.

      Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:30

      yeah…. just like everyone's got the same structure, same plans and same players targeted after the byes. #LOL

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:06

    Port are going to have another woeful season I reckon. Can't keep a gun like Robbie Gray down but it won't help much.

Luke · 17/03/2017 at 07:29

Jack Bowes thoughts on him community ?

    Tiger Man · 17/03/2017 at 09:34

    Hasn't shown enough to justify his price tag for mine

    jezzahill · 17/03/2017 at 11:34

    Price and job security a concern. Better options at a cheaper price for mine.

LtDraught · 17/03/2017 at 08:00

Never actually put my team up since joining the community last year, but don't be gentle fellas!

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird
Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (EVW, Stewart)

MID: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Treloar
Fyfe, Titch, Beams, SPP (Barrett, Hibberd, Miles)

RUCK: Nankilands (Sterndick)

FWD: Dahl, Maccrae, Rough
Taranto, Pickett, Parfitt (Houston, Eddy)

95k left in the war chest. It's bloody cookie-cutter and I'm going to have to trade carefully to avoid some bye-round carnage, but barring rookies I can see myself going in with this. Possibly downgrade a couple players like Beams > JOM, Marchbank or Taranto to cheaper rooks to turn Nank into Gawn but that depends on Spencer's Selection Status. I also wouldn't mind turning Maccrae > Rooey

    Kev · 17/03/2017 at 10:29

    Looks pretty solid, Lt. I'd sit on that cash mate, the scoring power of your two onfield rookies doesn't excite me, if any of the more expensive forward rooks start strong you can jump on with only 1 trade

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:47

    I like Macrae up to Roo but not sure how that impacts bye preperation/if it does

      AuroraBorealis?! · 17/03/2017 at 15:19

      STK and WBD both share a rd 11 bye

    LtDraught · 18/03/2017 at 00:38

    Cheers mates, I've snuck Parfitt and Pickett to M10 and M11 and put Turner and Florent at F5 and F6. Leaves me with 3k but I'm considering turning Pendles into a Rd12 bye mid (jelwood/priddis etc) to help bye structures and free up a little cash. Under a week away from Rd1 and I'm still trading like a madman

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:04

    Risky forwards

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:04

    Just saw you put Turner and Florent to F5/F6 seems wise.

Leg · 17/03/2017 at 08:21

Why no Titch or JOM

    Kev · 17/03/2017 at 10:23

    Who would you take out of the midfield, Leg? Neither are keepers in my eyes, or must have selections

      SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:04

      Titch not a keeper for you Kev … seriously??

      Could definitely be a top 10 mid this season now playing for a coach that doesn't actively despise him! 😉

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:48

    Titch almost made the cut but is an early upgrade target, he isn't better than any of my current mids. JOM I have no interest in, will be rested.

      Steeeve · 17/03/2017 at 17:05

      Concerned Titch won't drop much if at all? I see him averaging far more than last year and appreciating significantly. The bargain price is also the starting price for him.

seb · 17/03/2017 at 09:12

WHE or McCarthy at F5?
If a cheaper rookie is named I will put in a cheaper rookie

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:19

    Probably would go WHE although not sure I'd invest $200K in either especially if you don't also already have Taranto.

Finnius123 · 17/03/2017 at 09:13

Would it be too much picking Docherty, Simpson, Marchbank (Blues) and Otten, Laird, Hampton (Crows) as my starting backline???

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:49

    Potentially but it depends how the rest of your team looks

MACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC · 17/03/2017 at 09:20

Lekdog mate your teams looking not to bad mate would like to see some more st kilda players in there young man such as jack steven, n riewoldt, armitage, dempster

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:49

    Roo was in there for most of the preseason, will be my first midfield upgrade

nankilands · 17/03/2017 at 09:20

i love you lekdog, absolute gold.

no marchbank or thurlow in your defense? did they ever come into your side

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:50

    Marchbank was in there for a moment, just think the rookies we already have in defence are good enough. If Marchbank was a fwd/def he'd have made the cut.

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 09:34

Significant news community. Jack Viney on SEN this morning was asked about Gawn & Spencer: his response "I expect them both the play". Activate your contingency plan

    hedski · 17/03/2017 at 10:02

    I just bloody slotted Maxy back in last night….aaarrh.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 11:40

    Ta

    Saw enough in the JLT series to suggest Spencer will play early.

    plan B?
    could go balls out like Lek and go Nankilands – risky business right there

    really like Big Stiffys first few games but he like most rucks depends on if another ruckman plays – archie plays and he looks like jughead. Might put him in my dreamteam as can trade every week.,

    Hickey? huge potential
    Grundy – like the way he gets around the ground but does he do enough actually in the ruck?
    Goldy? injured preseason does Preuess play and chop him out?

    Ryder – kinda leaning towards him – surely lobbe doesn't play – Kenny said likely starting team JLT 3 and lobbe was dropped.

    Anyone I have missed? stuffed if I know??

    Add to this and all my potential def rooks play on Sunday! no idea if they are going to get a gig or not as they will most likely form an extended bench. Adelaide, cats and north all play sunday – hate to eat a donut rd [email protected]@

    same deal up forward – GWS play on Sunday – wont know on tarranto unitl Sunday

    its a bloody headache.

      SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:07

      Just too much risk starting premo rucks this season so I'll be another punter subscribing to the budget ruck model.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 12:14

        which budget model takes your fancy?

          SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:25

          Still mulling over the options Trig. It will most likely be either #Ryderlands, #Nankilands or even #Sandiwitts.

            LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:51

            Sandiwitts with a swing up forward?

              DEE · 17/03/2017 at 13:24

              That's the way my team looks.

              Sandiwitts, with nank up forward at F4.
              Allows me to go with JOM at M8.

        INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 12:15

        That's how the Addicts role! A cheap thrill

          SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:23

          Please Pieman my eyes hurt!

            INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 12:39

            SandiWitts SCA. Your nuts are growing larger by the second! Ryderlands I like!

        Bravis Toak · 17/03/2017 at 23:18

        I agree with this statement. When I first looked at the ruck situation, I was dead set on picking at least one premo. No way was I going to get caught out going cheap on rucks and then getting burnt.

        The more I looked into it though, the actual risk doesn't really lie with choosing Nankervis. He is a sole ruckman that we all saw can play. He has also trained week in week out against the likes of Mumford and Goldstein, so that's got to count for something.

        There is a bit of risk with Sandilands, not with his scores but with his body. He could potentially do a toe or finger and be gone for weeks (he seems to heal slowly).

        However the most costly risk IMO, is picking a really expensive premo, only to have them score considerably less because of the new 2x ruck thing that is happening in the AFL, and then either be forced to trade before the price change so you don't end up losing too much money.

        For this reason, I too have got Nandilands in my team (pending round 1 announcements)

      INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 12:16

      It's a tough call Trig. But I am leaning towards a cheaper Ruck set up

        Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 13:46

        Hicksands for me with Nans Crevice up forward, wanted Ride her from as soon as supercoach opened and still might, if hes a lone wolf he will score well but i think he will get tired early to mid season, if they go double dutch hes cooked,,

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 13:21

    significant.

    If Spenser is named, this will turn people away from Gawn in droves.

    For those who stick with Gawn and it turns out not to affect his score, happy days.

    My thoughts are the death of the Third man up will significantly increase Gawn's score this year. the reduction in the interchange will mean that he rests in the forward line and kicks a few goals.

    I might stick with Gawn even if Spenser is named. Will make Gawn a POD.

    Spenser might affect him, we don't really know. Spenser might be gone in two rounds.

      The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 14:09

      It's bloody tempting to change tack and bank some cash but at the moment I'm sticking with the two rucks that i first put in place all those weeks ago.
      Gawn and Grundy.
      Both I see as keepers and both will be top three in their position I hope. Regardless of the rule changes.
      There are very few players capable of knocking out those real monster scores and I just can't go in Gawnless.
      Grundy is still only 22yrs old so I'm expecting an improvement on last years scoring.
      I'll be spewing if the Nankilands gamble pays off I know…

        SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 15:26

        That's ballsy stuff Ranger. Don't see that many set and forget ruck builds anymore after #Nankilands performed so well in the JLT and now combined with the "Spenser for Hire'' phenomenon.

          The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 15:50

          Can't say it's not worrying me SC but I'm trying to keep to my structures and lessons learned from previous years.

    Shake n bake · 17/03/2017 at 15:28

    You cant keep him if spencer plays. I know some might think he'll go fwd more, one out rucks hell score more. but we didnt need to see the practice matches to know that wont work! Goldy with daw in the side late last yr stuffed his scoring same happened with martin. Spencer may not hang around long maybe later!!!

      INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 15:35

      Agree Shake. Assuming Spencer lines up then paying 645K for a great unknown seems somewhat irresponsible. I think like the forward line it might be best to go cheap until things work themselves out. I also can't see great cash generation coming from the rookies

        The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 15:49

        Yeah it's the cash generation side of the equation that worries me most Pieman but I don't regard Gawn as an unknown.

          INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 15:58

          The great unknown is the impact Spencer will have on Gawn's scoring. We know what Max is capable of Lone Wolf

      The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 15:55

      Aren't we supposed to ignore what the uber premiums do in the practice matches tho SnB?
      I dunno mate, it's worrying me to stick fat but it worries me even more to go in with an injury prone 34yr old and a bloke that couldn't get a run at it in Sydney and has only played 11 games of AFL level football.

        INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 16:01

        Good point Ranger. I think I prefer Nank in the forward line as cover. People going with Nankilands without cover defies logic

          The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 16:18

          If I was going to forgo the set and forget strategy I think I'd just go all in and put Witts and Nank in there.
          At least then I could hugely bolster other lines and try and regard the rucks as slow burn rookies.
          Yuk.
          Can't believe I'm even thinking of that as an option…

            INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 16:37

            If I look at Sandiwitts it does allows Taranto at F6, which is where I like him. The other Fwd rooks are rubbish

              TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 16:50

              Yep
              Tarranto &
              Maybe Turner who I think is close to best 22 and will play lots as long as he plays his natural game like on he weekend he should do ok
              Like Simpkin a bit too but not sure he gets games early as coming back from an injury might be a downgrade later
              Tarranto is not exactly guaranteed a game either but cogs/whtifield missing really helps there and guess what?
              he plays on bloody Sunday!!

              Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:45

              Taranto batting a M6??

        Shake n bake · 17/03/2017 at 16:15

        I said we didn't need to see the practice matches to know hes scores will be effected. Im goin with what l have seen happen to every ruck combo in the home & away season! All the practice matches told me is if spencer plays l wont pick Gawn same with Daw Preuss & Goldy Archie & Martin. Id just rather use that coin elsewhere. I had Gawn one of my 1st picked when l 1st put my team together, but not happening if spencer gets a gig.

          The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 16:26

          I get it. Just not sure I agree that Gawn will be as affected as the other examples you've given.
          The coin elsewhere is bloody tempting tho.
          Ah well, plenty of time to change my team another 43 times.

Finnius123 · 17/03/2017 at 09:36

Could someone please explain to me the captaincy loophole? I hear a lot about it but i'm not sure exactly what it is.

    the nank · 17/03/2017 at 12:04

    Basically u start a non playing rookie who has his team not playing on a friday and you sub him on for the friday night and put the captaincy on him. You sub off your back up captain and put the emergency on him

    You put the vc on someone who is playing on a Friday night lets say a Dangerfield, if he scores 120 or above you keep the vc on him. He will get double points as your non playing is automatically subbed off due to the emergency on ur bench
    You receive both scores except the vc is doubled

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:52

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmtFrXPaN0

      Finnius123 · 17/03/2017 at 13:41

      thanks guys!

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 09:48

I don't mind your team Lek. Can't recall seeing another as close to guns & rookies as this. My main concern is 2 onfield rookies in the midfield & forward line. If you can get away with that & cover Nankilands you'll be in great shape

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:52

    I'm not as concerned about onfield rookies but everyone has brought it up so maybe I should be worried haha

Adam · 17/03/2017 at 09:49

Lekdog or anyone
please give some insight

Adams, laird, tuohy, z jones, hampton, v ellis, stewart
Danger, hanners, priddis, fyfe, beams, jom, pp, pickett
Wigg, miles, hibberd
Grundy, sandi, cameron
Roo, dahl, lynch, rough, nank, taranto, butler, eddy

    Kev · 17/03/2017 at 10:19

    Good side, Adam. Jones a preseason flyer I reckon. So many ahead of him for TMitch's midfield spot

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 12:03

      Not so sure Kev on Jones.
      With heeney out for a bit, McVeigh not ready it will push mills back into Def, Jones will go into the mids much like JLT 3.

      This makes sense. Trying to find extra cash to maybe go Marchbank up to Jones.
      Nankilands?

        Adam · 17/03/2017 at 12:47

        Thanks fellas, Yeah these are my thaughts altho i could go marchbank ? But i dont need the coin ive still got 96k left over

ados bday · 17/03/2017 at 12:19

I love your team lekdogger please put jack viney in there he is a gun

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:53

    He was considered but isn't better than any of my premo mids. Will watch him closely

Stompers · 17/03/2017 at 12:39

Go there Legdog, interesting,

Whats your thought's on Jack martin and Cale Hooker this season, both have DPP, could run one in def and one in fwd line

Just a thought, haven't looked to far intocheers

    LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:54

    Hooker has been injured so that's a no and Martin didn't look great in the JLT Series

      Stompers · 17/03/2017 at 13:02

      Cheers bud 🙂

        Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 13:11

        I had Martin in before pre-season and i thought he looked really good but id didn't equate to sc points, so don't pick him but good signs for the suns.

JerseyforHawks · 17/03/2017 at 12:45

As a Hawks fan, please pick someone else other than Miles.

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 13:15

    Very Unlikely Miles will play, and if he does get named this week, he might find himself gone round 2 when Hodge is back. don't get sucked in.

Shake n bake · 17/03/2017 at 12:52

Seeing Higgins name getting thrown around abit now appearing ina few team was mentioned im the podcast couple of weeks back. Ive had him in my side since day dot. Just needs to stay healthy is only concern. Senior figure there now will play on the ball and will kick you goals. I say will be a top 8 fwd come seasons end. Rd 12 bye.

Jess_Coach · 17/03/2017 at 12:55

I like the nankilands combo, but think you need to have nank in the fwds. Think about it – a premium ruck like gawn is going to score more than ANY fwd. I've gone super light in the fwds with roughhead and nank as F2 and F3

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 14:37

    Without putting words in his mouth I'm sure that's Lek's plan Jess.

    Nank is just sitting there temporarily in the RUCK line and will either be upgraded if he doesn't work out, or will be eventually moved into the FWD line via a DPP trade to bring in an ultra premo ruck when the time is right.

      Jess_Coach · 17/03/2017 at 14:53

      Each to their own i guess. Rucks are hard to trust this year. Can see Nank being a top 10 fwd with #1 ruck (at least for a while), but he wont be close to a top ruckman. Lek just doesnt currently have a fwd/ruck swing option for nank, which would have me concerned. To maximise points (if only for a while), eliminate unnecessary team changes, and win this thing, its more practable to start him up forward

        SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 15:02

        Fwiw I also have Nank in my FWD line atm like you suggest but there are many ways to go about this game which is what makes it so great. Who comes out on top … well that's why we play. 🙂

        Wilson · 17/03/2017 at 16:08

        I agree Jess, but Lek can move Nank into the forward line later and upgrade one of his forwards to a ruckman. This can be done by trading say someone like a SPP to a rookie then upgrading an eddy after they both reach their maximum to a fallen premo in Gawn you just move the Nank into the forward line after you hit the trade button on Eddy.

Steve · 17/03/2017 at 13:06

Are you still running the Gingers this season Lekdog? Just wondering with all that controversy last year with that guy at the top of the rankings running multiple sides whether it's made people rethink running muck around sides. Although I'm sure the Gingers was always dead serious ha!

    Steeeve · 18/03/2017 at 00:46

    From memory the gingers were eradicated mid-season

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 13:13

Hey Lek, Join the JR Community Rank Group
http://supercoach.heraldsun.com.au/afl/classic/gr

already over 100 of the Jock Reynolds community have Joined.

Open to anyone else who are going for overall rank Glory.
http://supercoach.heraldsun.com.au/afl/classic/gr

    INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 13:16

    Have joined

Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 13:13

I hate it when people say JJK is inconsistent so don't pick him, if you have him for the season you are getting the 2nd most points from a forward, also with the eagles improving this year he could average more.

Also love ya side Lek, my structure is different but im very similar risk wise, I currently have Fyfe at M7 and my back line structure is a 1-1-6.

    Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 13:16

    BTW i know my english isnt good atm, I pulled an all nighter last night watching ncaa tournoment, so forvegive me.

    INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 13:18

    Fyfe M7! WOW. Those 6 rookies your looking for in defence may not eventuate

      Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 13:25

      Hope they do but we will see, Its Zorko vs Docherty for final spot in my team,

      If i go zorko my mid structure is 7-0-4 def is 1-1-6

      If I go Docherty mid structure is 6-0-5 and defense is 3-0-5

      I guess docherty makes sense for structure but i love looking at my midfield with 7 premos, in fact i might weaken my forward line so I have 8 mid premos

        INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 13:30

        I don't like having SPP on the ground let alone 2 in the midfield. I will have JOM or Swallow at M7

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 15:14

          Beams M7 for me at the moment

            Northernsoul74 · 17/03/2017 at 15:46

            Same I have Beams at M7.

    Rodney · 17/03/2017 at 15:54

    You're dreaming pal if you reckon you can run with 6 rookie defenders. Be prepared for a reality check next Friday night and a mad scramble for Clock Management FC next Friday night. Hope you don't have any social plans then lol!

      Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 16:25

      Not till late in the night haha, I did the same thing in 2013 in defense and last year did it fwd line it worked nicely but doesn't mean it will work again but I'm willing to take a punt, wish me luck I may need it!

        INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 16:59

        When Luke Ryan didn't show up & Nick Newman didn't play JLT3 I put the 6 rookie defence to rest

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 13:31

I've updated my list after some great feedback.

My list of cheap rookies under $175k is very thin. At the moment I've only got 8 that I would say with any confidence will play round 1.

Hampton
Stewart
SPP
Pickett
Parfitt
Eddy
Shoenmaker
Turner

In my "Highly likely" group I have:

VickersW
Hibberd
Otten
Atley
Barrett
Butler
Simpkin
Houston
Black
Florent

And in my "Possibles" list I have

Moutford
Brodie
McKay
Cameron
Durdin
Wigg
Miles
Gallucci
Greenword
Melican
Bowes
Hayward
Chol
Guthrie
TSmith

Does anyone have players to add?

Reports as to chances of playing etc.

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 14:28

    Black I would maybe downgrade to a possible. Was dumped for the JLT3 full dress rehearsal so that is usually a bad bad sign for a rookie / non-established player.

    Also didn't Stewart tweak a hammy late in that game? So I'm not 100% confident we can lock him in just yet unless it has since been confirmed it was not an issue.

      Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 14:39

      I would leave Black where he is, Butler has been confimed for rd 1 by dimma. Rest looks pretty good

        Steve · 17/03/2017 at 14:52

        So you reckon he is "highly likely" to play R1 hey? So why is he barely in any teams posted here nowadays. Would seem a no brainer at $137 grand. I agree with Addict I doubt he will make the trip to Perth next week.

          Tom · 17/03/2017 at 15:32

          Steve you need to do your research mate, Black will play rd 1, in terms of supercoach he won't socre very well there are better options but he will play.

            TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 15:34

            another one that plays on Sunday

            just about every decent rook above plays on Sunday!

            Derek · 17/03/2017 at 15:58

            I agree with Tom. Very likely to play. Did miss last JLT, but so did Pendlebury, doesn't mean Pendles won't play round 1

              John · 17/03/2017 at 16:07

              Pendles was due to an injury concern so not comparing the same thing. When fringe players miss the final JLT it usually spells a VFL/NEAFL/WAFL/SANFL start.

                SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 16:22

                Yeah Blacky actually played for the VFL Cats last weekend so he definitely didn't have an injury niggle. He kicked just the 2 goals so didn't exactly set the VFL world on fire. He will probably get another chance to impress as I think the VFL Cats play again later tonight.

                So hey who knows perhaps he may get an AFL Rd1 call up if he can kick a bag. But I still have my doubts there and certainly wouldn't term it highly likely.

                But otherwise an excellent list Derek!

                  Steve · 17/03/2017 at 16:52

                  Good stuff Addict. Now that's actually called research Tom haha.

                  Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:03

                  Nice SC

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:14

    Ziebel said today that Simpkin would "go very close" to round 1 selection.

    Jordan · 17/03/2017 at 22:36

    Preuss and Cameron? In highly likely

      Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:02

      Cameron maybe? Not sure about preuss

Matt · 17/03/2017 at 13:46

Hello community!
I have a few dillemas.
1. I want ro run two mid pricers in the midfield. That leaves me 8 deep but with 2-4 in defence and 3-3 forward.
2. Not sure with Treloar or Pendles
3. Want to fit in J selwood somewhere but not sure
4.Ruck structures a mess.

Would like to see anyone with an idea out of left field

    Northernsoul74 · 17/03/2017 at 15:44

    I'm running both Pendles and Treloar. If only going one I'd go Treloar.

    Keenbutclueless · 18/03/2017 at 15:05

    For what it's worth, I reckon the three forward rookies is a problem. I feel SPP certainly and Barrett probably have better scoring potential and better job security than any of the forward rookies. Logically then, are you not better off having them on field and taking your mid price risk in the forward line? Most of the forward rookies are playing the small forward role, with maybe only Taranto getting any midfield time with Coniglio out.

    If you want a left field suggestion, run 3 premos and 2 mid pricers on the forward line. For F6, run Deluca-Cardillo from Freo. Put Pickett as F7 with the E. Put Parfitt on your mid bench. If Pickett scores well on Thursday night, leave it. If he spuds up, bring Parfitt down. Then put DC on field in the mids and put the E on another rookie and do it again.

      Keenbutclueless · 18/03/2017 at 15:09

      Forgot to say – the left field suggestion means you run Cameron or Pruess as R3.

Jambo · 17/03/2017 at 14:14

Since we're doing 'Team Reveals', I'll include mine. I'll be using a guns and rookies structure.
DEFENCE (in order of D1 to D8):
K Simpson, H Shaw, T Adams, C Mills, A Otten, T Stewart (E Vickers-Willis,
MIDFIELD (in order of M1 to M11):
P Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Treloar, Fyfe, M Crouch, SPP, J Barrett, T Miles (Mit Hibberd, J Pickett, C Maynard)
RUCK
B Grundy, T Hickey (English)
FORWARD
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Gunston, D Smith, Eddy, Parfitt (D Butler, T Smith)

96.7k left.

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 14:47

    the DSmith choice is interesting. Havn't seen him in too many teams, but i'm thinking that GWS are going to kick some big scores this year, and he could do ok.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 15:18

    Geez jam

    3 on field rooks in the mids first time I have seen that with all the options in the mids

    might cost u some points early.

Samwise · 17/03/2017 at 14:26

Enter legue 387434

Rivo · 17/03/2017 at 14:33

Beams & Bowes or JOM & Swallow?

    Rivo · 17/03/2017 at 17:42

    Maybe that's a silly question? Both options are a risk.

the nank · 17/03/2017 at 14:35

JJJ averages 130.55 when he scores over a hundred and he scores a hundred in 40% of his games
when he scores below 100 he scores 75.15 and he scores under 60% of the time
Community I'm torn do I go with the JJJ, Franklin and Dalhaus combo or is that too risky?

    Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:21

    Great option for overall not so flash in the leagues nank, as the mag says what SuperCoach player are you? For what it's worth I've gone similar but with StNick in place of Buddywith the reason being KPFs will have a stinker run at some stage so my plan is to only go in with 1 elite KPF (from the top 3 I rate) and pick the other 2 off when the opportunity strikes. Good luck mate, people running KPFs need it we also have to posess the largest testicular fortitude and you seem to have it in spades.

MACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC · 17/03/2017 at 14:39

Would you ever consider viney or steven good man? which one is better in your opinion

    WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 15:57

    that is a bloody good question!…Viney seems to score better in Supercoach (lots of tackles, contested possessions) whereas Steven seems built for Dreamteam/AFL Fantasy (give & go's, higher overall possessions)…but Steven is a couple of years advanced…Viney definitely breakout contender in my mind, Steven proven quantity…both have tempted me this year but whereas I have Steven in both Dreamteam & Fantasy I haven't backed him in SC…Viney possibly has a better upside but I have gone Hall instead in the same price range…personally I think they're both good picks and shouldn't let you down…not sure if that helps tho'…I think I've just sat on the fence

      SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 17:09

      I'm also selecting Steven in DT. Really like those 8 of the first 10 games at the Dome to start the season leading up to their Rd11 bye. So believe a lot of Saints could get off to hot starts whether it be a Steven, Roo, Steele, Billings or others.

      Viney is another one of those guys who could take his game to the next level and join the ultra elites but so could Titch, Kelly, M.Crouch, Cripps, Gaff, Shuey, Bont, Wines, Dusty and another half dozen guys I'm probably forgetting.

      Out of that bunch I still like Titch the most but any one of those guys could join the Supercoach 110 club for the first time this season but which one? It just seems safer to go the JPK/Hanners/Jelwood route like Lek has done for a little bit more coin, rather than back in some hopeful who may not make that jump or even go a little bit backwards.

SnakeWu · 17/03/2017 at 15:10

Any feedback would be appreciated community!

Def: Shaw, Howe, Mcdonald, Hampton, Otten, EVW ( Stewart, Long)

Mid: Danger, Rocky, Sloane, Ward, Fyfe, Watson, Sheed, SPP ( Barrett, Wigg, Atley)

Ruc: Gawn, Sandi (Sterndick)

Fwd: Franklin, Macrae, Caddy, Steele, M.Kennedy, Pickett (Durdin, Eddy)

    Kenny · 17/03/2017 at 19:18

    reckon you probably have enough mid PODs to change Watson .. whilst he is in good nick and looked to have retained his ability to find the ball in the JLT, the year off is very risky. He may do a Zach Merrett and stick it up all the doubters but reckon replacing him with a more likely keeper solidifies your team. For about the same money and potential point score you could maybe put Dahlhouse as your F6 .. gives you a swinger and probable forward keeper. good luck

WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 15:28

Version 202.5

DEF: Doc, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Stewart. (J.Smith, Guthrie)
MID: Danger, Parker, Selwood, Treloar, Fyfe, Hall, Beams, O'Meara (SPP, Hibberd, Pickett)
RUC: Martin, Sandi (Strandnica)
FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Steele, Black, Butler, Eddy (Parfitt, Houston)

$91K in the bank…If Martin doesn't play as lone ruckman may go down to Nank and upgrade Steele to Roo? Had Priddis in an earlier version, but think Hall will smash it early and is good value…money in the bank allows for changes re rookies (Otten into DEF obvious, Taranto/McCarthy into FWD possibly?)

Would love to put Zorko/Rockliff into my team but feel Beams offers better value…and thinking upgrade JOM to Zorko/Rockliff eventually…still not convinced by my forwards (esp Macrae & Steele) and could easily be persuaded to put Roo and/or Buddy in…not convinced by Caddy at all yet…Greene is tempting tho'…gawd, what a mess…playing Supercoach, Dreamteam, and AFL Fantasy…it just messes with the mind… But bloody hell it makes work on a Friday arvo easier to get through! (that and the pints at the pub)…happy St Pats day all!

and yes, realise this is the 3rd thread in which I'm posting this…Beck would be proud

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 16:05

    Hall is bold. If he was $100k cheaper….. maybe. For $45k more you can get TMitch

      WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 17:21

      Wise words Derek; I think I may have a blind spot re T Mitch due to Longmire stuffing him & us around the last couple of years…but yeah, new coach, newish role (no tagging?) and he should be a top 10 mid…Hall appeals to me because of my bye structure and he's probably top 3 mid at GC (also, Gazza late to start and may play more forward)…realise I will be carrying Hall rd 9 but he will be there for all 3 bye rounds…just a thought, probably not a very good one! Thanks!

Tommo09 · 17/03/2017 at 15:54

Def: Doch, Laird, Tuohy, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Stewart (Melican, Guthrie)
Mid: Danger, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Fyfe, TMitch, Omeara, SPP (Barrett, Wigg, Hibberd)
Ruc: Gawn, Sandi (Cameron)
Fwd: Dahl, Lynch, Rough, Steele, Miles, Butler (Eddy, Parfitt)

Have $35k left
I know some of my rookies won't play but am waiting for R1 teams
Lots of midpricers and risk in my team

Thoughts community?
Thanks in advance

    Tommo090 · 17/03/2017 at 16:46

    mate u must post your team at least once a day surely you don't need the community to look at it every day?

neil Demons Delight · 17/03/2017 at 16:07

great team Lek Ballsy selection of Lloyd makes the defence extra sound but I worry about your forwards .Rucks also a gamble Witts to R3 might alleviate that a bit cheers

STAR · 17/03/2017 at 16:10

DEF: Docherty, Laird, Adams, Ottens, Hampton, Vicker-Wlillis (Newman, Stewart)

MID: Danger, JPK, DePendles, Shuey, Fyfe, The Bont, Picket, SPP (Barrett, Wigg, Miles)

Ruck: Nank, Sandi (Strndica)

Forward: Dals, Macrae, JK, Ryder, Black, Camroon (Smith, Eddy)

Help Please

BlueBoy · 17/03/2017 at 16:18

Would Ben Long get a game if he wasn't suspended?

Thinking of using him as a floating doughnut in first 2 rounds since he's more likely to make money eventually.

Simon · 17/03/2017 at 16:31

Is Martin in ruck any good

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 16:44

    he is great if rucks solo as we saw on the weekend

    if archie plays he looks like jughead.

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:31

    A fairly risky option as he's not the sharing type and does not play well with other ruckman at all. I still wouldn't risk it in SC myself even if Archie Smith ISN'T named Rd1.

    But then again I suffered third degree burns starting Stef last season so I guess I would say that! 🙂

Simon · 17/03/2017 at 16:34

Simpson and marchbank or mills and tuohey

    Wilson · 17/03/2017 at 18:29

    Simpson, Marchbank for sure..Mills is in his second year and history would show even the greats like Pendles only averaged mid to late 80's in their second years massive risk for mine and tuohey has Harry o written all over his potatoe eating head.

Luke444 · 17/03/2017 at 16:39

Dan Butler won't get a gig anytime soon

    Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 17:35

    You do realize Dimma said he is playing Rd 1 a few days back on AFL tonight,

Matze · 17/03/2017 at 16:43

Liking the Lloyd pick in DEF over a mills type. More of a POD in my league at least I'm feeling. Had him in there a while chopping and changing with mills but settling on Lloyd too.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 16:58

The lack of good rookies has reshaped my team. I've reluctantly got rid of Mills and replaced him with Marchbank. I still think Mills will be 100% midfield by year end, but as a breakout midpricer, I'll leave him for now.

Using the cash saved I've strengthened the rookies. Rookies on steroids 🙂 and added McGrath and Taranto, hopefully their quality will shine through. Although I really like KStewart as well, but just too expensive.

I like Taranto and McGrath with DPP, either can swing into midfield if needed.

I've added Swallow to midfield. I've had him in and out more times than any other player.

Keepers all pick themselves, except Cyril Rioli is my big POD.

Haven't got any of the big 3 defenders, far to expensive.

Sticking with Gawn. Happy to see Spencer play, less people will have Gawn.

Bunnies V4.1

Adams, Laird, Marchbank, McGrath, Hampton, VickersW (Otten, Stewart)

Dangerfield, Fyfe, Selwood, Hanners, Trelor, TMitch, Swallow, SPP (Hibbends, Parfitt, Barrett)

Gawn, Sandilands ((Strd)

Dahlhaus, McCrae, Cyril, Roughie, Taranto, Simpkin (Pickett, Eddy)

Swallow may still become Atley and bank the $170k for Sandi emergency money.

What do you reckon fellas, thanks fellas….

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 17:08

    I've done something similar with caddy and gawn making way for some cheaper options to give me some of the dearer rooks.

    I like how you only really have 1 cheap rook on the field in each spot.
    but McGrath?
    I think you are the only one running with him? I don't think he will score enough for the outlay.
    Big call. I think he is still adjusting to the tempo of AFL.
    Better off trying to find the cash and upgrade to Jones or putting ottens on the field as he if he gets a game will score just as well

      Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:31

      mcGrath will be a big POD, who would have thought.

      I really liked what I saw in the JLT. Has class. Has DPP.

      He will adjust to the pace and hopefully bag some good scores.

      Playing in defence in a weak team, I think the ball will come to him.

        Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:36

        Otten looks like a 2 gamer that sits on the bubble for 10 weeks

          Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:01

          That does worry me.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 23:56

        Fair enough we all like some pod action

        I am currently running with a guy only in 0.5% of teams.

    INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 17:24

    I've decided to pick my team backwards on Thursday. Start with the rookies & go from there

      Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:33

      I did that today and completely filled my forward line with likely round 1 selections.

      Maybe we will get a few smokies

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 17:38

    I have a feeling Gawn will still score well even if Spencer plays Rd1 and at some point I think Spencer will be sent back to the VFL anyway, most likely sooner rather than later. That said you still have to bet against a couple of super premos and for me that's going to be a full priced Gawn, Pendles and Doch/Simmo this season

    Sorry to see you gave up on Mills but he's an undeniable risk so completely understand it. Not sure on McGrath as has he really shown us that he is up to AFL level right now, even if he proves a future 250 game player for the Dons?.Could be quite a slow burn for $200K and one you may have to correct by Rd3 but I guess we'll see what rookie picture we are presented with next week.

    Good to see that the Bunnies is staying strong with Cyril and you haven't sold out for a Steele/Nank/Higgins type. 🙂

      Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:30

      I like the talk that Spencer will play. Will give more people reason to jump off Max.

      Even if Spencer plays, Gawn will kill it. I saw how much fitter he looks, lost a few KGs, he will actually score very well when he rests forward this year. melbourne will get it there alot more, he will be a handful and should kick a few more goals this year.

      i'm betting against the carlton boys as well, surely they can't play that well again!

        Kev · 17/03/2017 at 18:43

        Gawn in 35% of sides. Second most popular ruck after Sandi (41%).

          Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:45

          he was 42% last week, 39.8% on Monday……..

            SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 19:28

            It's plummeting alright and should Spencer get named next Thursday it could plummet below 25% which would be about half the level it was a month ago.

            Just extraordinary for clearly the best ruckman last season who has actually played pretty well in the JLT and looks fit and firing!

    Shake n bake · 17/03/2017 at 19:35

    Hypothetical if you didn't have Cyril as D3 who would you take?

      Derek · 17/03/2017 at 20:52

      The best thing about Cyril, he is $490k. I best 22 player for under $500k.

      It would be Franklin but he doesn't work well with byes.

    The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:31

    I like this team Derek. Nice balance to it.

    Steeeve · 18/03/2017 at 00:51

    I'm with you, getting rid of all the rookies who seem iffy. In Hargreaves, in Swallow.

      Derek · 18/03/2017 at 14:06

      BEAMS keeps calling out.

      Pick me at M7. I score you big points.

        neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 18:45

        Is Beams the best under 500 injuries aside I think he is .Don't play with your heart Derek Even Lloyd presents super value but Cyril without the feed of Lewis and Mitchell worries me Cheers

WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 17:28

Cyril always worries me…yes he's special (thanks Bruce) but I just don't think he brings it scoring wise…absolute game winner/ball tearer on any given day, and could see him winning a match up for you, but consistent? Not so sure…gap between his best and worst is huge; he would have to do more in the midfield for mine…I think F3 has to be either a keeper or a breakout contender…I'm not sure Cyril is either of those, but yeah he will give you a hell of a ride!

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:24

    Cyril's last 7 seasons, 95, 99, 99, 89, 93, 93, 91 averages.

    not sure if you would call that inconsistent.

    i agree that he can have a good game and a bad game and they can vary alot.

    he doesn't need many disposals to score well. he scored a 175 with 16 touches one day. only once in his whole career has had more than 26 disposals. very special.

    this year he is in the leadership group, the hawks have a fully fit forward line (Cyril doesn't have to do everything), SMitch and Lewis have left a little gap in the midfield rotations, he is as fit as he has ever been, no sign of his hammy problems (only missed 5 games in last 2 seasons, and 2 of them were for his grandfathers funeral), some big forwards to make a contest finally that he can crumb, changes in the rushed behinds rule will keep the ball in play more, hawks have the best first 12 weeks of any club (including essendon first up), 4 or the first 5 at the MCG. still only 27 and i believe that being part of the leadership group at the club will lift his game.

    Only needs 5-8 pt increase and he is easy top 6 forwards.

    I may be completely taken by cognative Bias…………..

      WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 18:49

      Well thanks for nothing Derek, now doing the maths to see if I can fit Cyril in!!! Really didn't need my forward options to get any more complicated : ) love your work though

Frank · 17/03/2017 at 17:29

Question for you, what do you do if sandi cant stay fit for that long? Say he falls over rd 3 you will have no cash left and no reasonable trade options…this is the biggest risk of the nankilands duo. Which I also currently have in my team but will change by round 1

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:39

    my plan i think is to have cash avaliable. That is why i'm struggling with Swallow at M7.

    Without him i have another rookie onfield, but i do have multiple DPP swing sets to cover lines and loop players.

    he has been in and out.

    I'll probably go without Swallow, that will give me $170k in the bank.

    if sandi goes down prior to any price increase, i should be able to get a decent replacement for $480k.

    if he goes down after the bubble, i'll be close to a grundy or Goldy.

    if he misses a week, i could go McGrath or taranto (if they are not performing) to Nank, ryder even Boyd or Sinclair. Even Strd to Witts…..

    cash gives me the options i need.

      SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 19:16

      But what if Sandi (or even Gawn for that matter!) is expected to just miss a game or two early in the season due to say a bad corky? Seems a little indulgent to burn a trade in such a scenario. It's not too late to go Cyril –> Nank and also make you $150K in the process … you know 2 birds 1 stone…

      I just reckon we got off lightly last season with most coaches running without cover. Very doubtful we will be so fortunate again this season and we have a couple of superb cover options in Nank and Ryder this time around. Both could even prove excellent forward options in their own right with ruck cover just being an added bonus.

        Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:14

        I'll put a trade aside to upgrade Sandi anyway, that can happen anytime after round 5.

        ill put another trade aside if I need to trade a ruck.

Ben · 17/03/2017 at 17:43

Hello community,

Any thoughts on my team would be much appreciated! To add a bit of context to my experience and past performances, i have been playing since 2007 and have a best overall rating of 1500 for the 2015 season! Now onto my team.

DEF: Docherty Shaw Laird Marchbank Hampton Otten (Stewart EVW)

Docherty will be the number 1 defender in 2017, LOCK. Shaw has averaged over 90 for like the last ten years… Laird is an absolute ball magnet and is a bit safer then Adams IMO. Regardless of Marchbank's elevated price he will score heaps in the beautiful Carlton chip around the back setup! Rest of the rookies are self explanatory.

MID: Dangerfield Pendlebury Hannebery Fyfe Beams O'Meara SPP Barrett (Wigg Pickett Hibberd)

First 4 midfielders are locks.. Hannebery has given up the grog and is one of the most consistent scorers in the league. Missed out on the ton 4 times last year, the same as Danger! Beams and O'Meara are premiums if they can get some contingency, which they look to have this preseason. Midfield rookies are all subject to selections especially the bench.

RUC: Goldstein Sandilands (Strandica)

I got cold feet on Gawn and dumped him freeing up cash elsewhere, however i still feel confident that Goldy will do the greater majority of the rucking with Majak/Preuss playing a more forward oriented roll. Willing to roll the dice on Sandilands and move to Nankervis if a disaster happens. Not selecting Preuss/Cameron to free up 20k and the loophole!

FWD: Riewoldt Dahlhaus Macrae Roughead Taranto McCarthy (Eddy Black)

Riewoldt is playing something off his first 8/10 games at Etihad Stadium where he has a stupid average! Also intrigued by the fact that they have the three other tall forwards allowing for Nick to push up the ground even more. The two Bulldog premiums will be top 6 forwards come seasons end. Roughead is a lock as lek mentioned above, next! Taranto has been touted by numerous teammates to play in round 1 before the JLT. Then he turned it on with 90+ scores and toughness not seen by many rookies. McCarthy was only added to the team at the conclusion of his last JLT game, the main option in that Fremantle forward line and should score well. Eddy is now guaranteed his spot on the back of his four goals. F8 is dependant on selections.

Overall, I have selected a fairly risk free team with a few more elevated priced rookies. I wouldn't normally select these guys but the job security and point scoring is all too tantalising. Coin flipped on Hannebery as a result of Kennedy being more commonly selected, can't go wrong really. If spencer is not named in round 1, i have no idea where i will find the cash to get Gawn in but i will have to somehow. Would love to know everyones thoughts and tips so you can all make me feel more reassured or second and third guess myself in the dire hours before the best time of the year!

P.S: It took me like 40 minutes to write this during the lunch break of the test :')

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:07

    An extremely solid side Ben with a bunch of premos who have done it all before so you are not banking on any breakout contenders whatsoever. I'm pretty sure Hanners has just been foxing in the preseason and it wouldn't surprise me if he bangs out a 140 against Port next weekend after some coaches have jumped off him after his indifferent JLT form.

    Goldy would be my only concern but since he is one of your two Rd12 bye premos along with Danger it does help your team balance somehat. The signs he has given in the preseason haven't been particularly encouraging but just like Hanners he is a proven ultra premo who will likely produce the goods again.

      Ben · 17/03/2017 at 18:30

      I do feel there is a lot of rick associated with some of the breakout contenders. Maybe I'm a little bit risk adverse which holds me back from winning it all and just being super consistent in the top 1-5%. Any recommendations for breakouts?

        SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:52

        Most breakouts fail and the track record is quite poor on seasons past (as I'm sure you are well aware of) so you are wise to resist the temptation Ben.

        Of the guys who could jump to a new level the ones that appeal to me most would be Nank, Steele, Billings, Jones, Mills, Lloyd, Tuohy, Oliver, Titch and maybe M.Crouch or Kelly, although wouldn't have the stones to start those last two in particular myself.

        But if you can stay strong to your proven guys your chance of sustaining substantial burn scars remains low. You may just miss out on some value for those selections that actually come off but it's very unlikely to derail your season not picking any of them.

Barrack · 17/03/2017 at 17:44

Anything wrong with parker, or is Kennedy the man out of the sydney mids this year

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:13

    I think the offseason knee surgery and modified preseason program scared off plenty. But as we've seen he's built up nicely throughout the JLT and was definitely the Parker of old, doing it all, last Sunday.

    I have him firmly locked in my Real Dream Team side but slightly prefer JPK for SC so that's who I'm rolling with instead.

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:43

    i think hanners will benefit most from TMitch leaving. splitting hairs though

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:49

    It's probably good nobodies talking about him, will be a good target midyear.

lukesupercoach · 17/03/2017 at 17:58

Surprised not many teams are going with Grundy. Reckon he'll go close to a top 2 this season. Averaged 107 in his last 10 games last year plus he is the main man in the ruck for Collingwood. Also gets his fair share of possessions around the ground. 520K lock for me. Discuss gents

    Big G · 17/03/2017 at 19:51

    I so wanted to go with him, but can't ignore Sandi.

      lukesupercoach · 17/03/2017 at 20:24

      Grundy and Sandi?? That's what I'm going with

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:30

    Not good enough at stoppages

    HO to advantage is where the Rucks will get their score. Especially with no 3rd man up.

    Grundy is not good enough it that area of the game to be top 2.

    Have a good look at who he played against in final games last year.

      The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:26

      He's 22yrs old Derek! You don't think he can improve on last years stats?

      lukesupercoach · 17/03/2017 at 23:33

      Derek explain to me how he averaged 107 in last 10? Don't care who he played, if he can add a couple more HO to advantages to his game thats a bonus.

        Derek · 18/03/2017 at 12:05

        I don't think he can improve his HO to advantage.

        3rd man up rule scrapping will hurt him. Emergence of Cox will hurt

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:48

    Not a bad pick but not convinced top 2. Cox will be playing after being elevated and will do a bit of rucking, not that it should sway you, like the value but personally going with nank and waiting to see how the ruck division pans out.

      lukesupercoach · 18/03/2017 at 16:16

      Each to their own! All the best lads

Suttoo · 17/03/2017 at 18:09

DEF: Docherty, Laird, Adams, Ottens, Hampton, Vicker-Wlillis (Newman, Stewart)
MID: Danger, JPK, DePendles, Shuey, Fyfe, The Bont, Picket, SPP (Barrett, Wigg, Miles)
Ruck: Nank, Sandi (Strndica)
Forward: Dals, Macrae, JK, Ryder, Black, Camroon (Smith, Eddy)

THOUGHTS PLEASE ON TEAM

Seb · 17/03/2017 at 18:33

Can someone please convince me to pick Matt crouch really want to pick him but just not sure if he can be top 10 mid by years end.

    Pies · 17/03/2017 at 18:44

    He was in my side but I took him out I don't think he's a keeper for me? I think he some one you will eventually have to trade out??? Just my opinion. Based on ur structure?

    Rivo · 17/03/2017 at 21:02

    Yes Seb. Get a copy of the 2017 Jock Reynolds magazine. Page 11-17. The answers there.

      Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:34

      Jock loves him

      Main stat is his points per min

      Last year his TOG was under 78%. If he can keep same points per min but increase TOG = gold

      That's the theory

    Bravis Toak · 17/03/2017 at 23:28

    Matt Crouch will not be a top 10 mid by the end of the year.

    Best he will do is 104-107 at the ABSOLUTE BEST… In my humble opinion, of course.

      Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:44

      I agree, although he racks em up I think it will be a year or two till he is a lock.

BrownlowBoy · 17/03/2017 at 18:51

Tobias Greene yes or no.

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:36

    Look at comments 12 months ago.

    Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:32

    Don't do it BB it's a VERY painful ride mate, Trust me I only stopped shaking from my experience last year when the Jock mag came out!

Suttoo · 17/03/2017 at 19:14

T.Mitchell or THE Bont

    Tommo09 · 17/03/2017 at 19:23

    I have both but I like the Bont

      Krups · 17/03/2017 at 19:40

      Mitch

    Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:33

    Think the Bont better but likely more upside to titch given his move and likely elevated role at the hawks

Suttoo · 17/03/2017 at 19:27

DO we need beams as i lock in do i fit him in

    Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:35

    Yes if going for overall (you can't afford to miss that elite boat much like Fyfe), no if you're focussed on leagues only but handy there also if he does pay off.

      Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:41

      Very good point.

      I don't think Beams is s keeper. Will need to be managed this year and will miss games.

      But while he is up and going he will score very well for a $433k investment, will need returns like that when going for RANK

      Great point…….

the nank · 17/03/2017 at 19:38

Is buddy a top 5 forward and also what are predicting the Nank to average?

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:44

    Buddy is Top 6

    The Nank comes up against Kruiser, Grundy, Gawn, Jacobs, Martin, Sandilands and Mummy in the first 8 weeks. We'll see how good (or not) he is.

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 22:59

    My guesstimate for the Nank would be 85-95 but that's assuming he can keep Hampson out of the Tiges side for the bulk of the season and thereby operate as a lone wolf ruckman.

      Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:43

      We will find out quickly if he's the real deal.
      Kreuzer round one
      Grundy round two
      Lycett?Giles round three
      Martin/Archie round 4
      BIG MAXXY round 5

    Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:48

    Buddy absolutely top 5 nank, 3rd for overall score last season and 5th for avg. interestingly Dahlhaus finished 30th overall 3rd average and McRae 25th overall and 5th average so for those thinking of running with both of them from the get go they may want to have their rosemary beads handy.

Suttoo · 17/03/2017 at 19:45

Should i GET RID OF PENDLES FOR BEAMS

    the nank · 17/03/2017 at 23:02

    no

      Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:37

      Tell him he's dreaming…

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:40

    The obvious answer is no………..but……It really depends on the rest of your structure it might fix a hole somewhere else.

    Can beams be a keeper this season? Would be an absolute bargain if true.

    Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:54

    Ok Sutto, it takes a lot for me to say this, MAYBE! (sorry I just can't bring myself to say yes outright!) I'm still recovering from the news Pendles came out with yesterday when he said he will DEFINITELY miss a week when baby Pendles drops (due rd8 for those interested in sending him a cute little Buckley Bear). So if you are going for overall and it helps your overall team then it could be a positive, although the key question is what are you doing with the spare cash? If not investing it to get another promo mid then I'd seriously reconsider, especially if going for rank. Good luck mate, it's going to be a helluva season!

Krups · 17/03/2017 at 19:47

DEF: Adams-Howe-Tuhoy-Otten-Hampton-Stewart-(Newman-EVW)
MID: Danger-Selwood-Treloar-Fyfe-S.Mitchell-T.Mitchell-Beams-O'Meara ( SPP-Miles-Hibberd )
RUC: Hickey-Sandi ( Strandica )
FWD: Dahl-Buddy-Roughy-Nank-Pickett-Eddy ( Butler-Houston )

    Suttoo · 17/03/2017 at 20:03

    Adams Howe Tuhoy a big risk i would get rid of one of Adams or Howe but other wise not bad

    throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 20:39

    Really like Krups. Taking some chances with those who may miss a game: Adams, Fyfe, Smitch, Beams, O'Meara, Sandi. My person take is not having a rook on the field is a bit of an overreaction. SPP should do a nice job as a M8. One rook always seems to get the job done. With that bank, would either upgrade Adams or Smitch to a player who is going to give you 22.

    Not going to bash the Hickey call because I'm considering it myself, especially if Longer is out and Spencer and Pruess are in. HUGE gut call otherwise. But me likes it.Forward line is pretty solid.

    Best of luck, my man.

      Krups · 17/03/2017 at 20:54

      Thanks for taking the time to give me your thoughts Throttlefinger. Might just get SSP at M8 and upgrade Sam Mitchell

        throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 21:43

        You are very welcome, Krups.

throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 20:33

Apologies for the late post. I must say not seeing Caddy on your team makes everything else easier on the eyes. Bold selections (Higgins, Lloyd and of course Nankilands) yet you've left yourself some room for maneuvering, which is one of the keys to the game. Best of luck to you this season, my friend.

    Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:39

    Im a lloyd fan mainly because he can afford two L's at the start of his name when the rest of us can only afford one? but see a good upside,,,

      throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 22:54

      Think that extra L is a clear sign of boastfulness. And as Yoda said, "Boastfulness leads to arrogance which becomes chlamydia that burns your SC scores."

      He's a 200 year troll. Listen.

        The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:17

        Ah TF… clinical as always.
        How's ya preseason going mate?

          throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 23:22

          Ranger, my man, how thee be?

          Preseason has been the usual wave riding. Just settling in on two structures, with one that, I hope, covers R1 surprises.

          How about you? Best of luck this season. I'm going to try to jump in here more. Wife, kiddies and hammer of life always competing.

            The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:41

            The hammer is the only constant I know my friend and I'm astonished that only two structures are keeping you occupied! Man up and get three or four like the rest of us!
            Gonna be bedlam early methinks. Might have to trade hard early.

              throttlefinger · 18/03/2017 at 00:17

              I have older structures that I don't care for as much but really planning on 2 with fall back moves in case things go south. As always want to limit trading. Show more faith and have 6 trades for finals is the goal.

              That said, I don't think they will. Think the longer JLT gave the coaches longer time to assess younger players. So while it won't be ideal, R1 selections won't be shocking.

              That's the hope at least…

    LEKD0G · 18/03/2017 at 18:09

    Good to hear from you in the comments, was waiting for someone to ask me where Caddy was…his disinterest in Richmond's final JLT Game lost me

Liam · 17/03/2017 at 20:33

Has anyone considered starting with Myers and Berry compared to guys that don't have good JS.

I started with Petracca last year as well as a 102k donut and it worked well. It saved me trades trading rookies who played 1-5 games out that made little to no money.

I think I might start with Deluca and Berry in the mids and swing with Parfiit/Miles/Pickett/Hibberd/Taranto. Myers will be a upgrade option because I think he's not coming back to round 6 (correct me if I am wrong).

Stompers · 17/03/2017 at 20:40

Here we go,

Just toying with a few idea's, not sure if there is enough quick money generation in the mids this year, seems to be a few def rookies that could work, made a plan, see what you think of this set up.

Def : Simmo, Shaw, Laird, Marchback, Hampton, (Otten/Stewart) Newman?

Mids: Danger, Dan, Treloar, Fyfe, Adams, LLoyd, Deams, JOM, ( Barret, Miles, SPP)

Rucks: Sandwitts

FWDs: Dalhouse, Green, Roughy, Nanks, ( black, eddy, Pickett, Houston)

Let us know what you think?

Cheers

    SnakeWu · 17/03/2017 at 21:25

    I've done a similar thing with picking Adams in the mid but there really isn't any point in doing that if you aren't getting hibberd or berry in defence to swing with

    Rucks look like a potential tragedy but could pay off amazingly

    Otherwise strong looking team

      Stompers · 17/03/2017 at 22:45

      Thanks SnakeWu,

      Just toying with the idea that if the def and mid rookies make enough for a fallen mid prem then I can swing Adams and the Lloyd into def.

      Could work, hopefully picking the right rookies would help!!

      Cheers

    The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:21

    Been playing with a similar idea but Adams has to be M6/7

Rivo · 17/03/2017 at 20:55

Taking Gawn out does allow a very different structure. Here is an alternative team for comment. Only $4k left but worth a review. Thoughts on the below?

D: Doc, Shaw, Laird, Lloyd, Hampton, Hibberd (Stewart, Guthrie);
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, M.Crouch, Beams, Swallow, SPP (Wigg, Miles, Parfitt);
R: Nank, Sandi (Strnadica);
F: Dahl, Lynch (GC), Rough, Steele, Taranto, Pickett (Cameron, Eddy).

    Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:53

    I see 10 keepers. Doesn't seem enough. Do you have any cash left?

      Rivo · 18/03/2017 at 06:42

      Derek, no cash left, so it's a higher risk profile on this team.

    SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 22:47

    I think 10 keepers would be a pretty harsh assessment. If you are starting Beams, Lloyd, Crouch, Nank and even Steele you are expecting them to be keepers as they would likely make fairly mediocre cash cows otherwise.

    You are definitely tilted towards more of a midpriced strategy but it's not crazy over the top for mine. One or two may backfire but that's the risk with midprices and the upside is that there appears to be substantial value in those selections should they deliver as hoped.

    At least you are limiting your risk with regards to onfield rookies which I think is a real positive given this rookie class from hell we are facing this season. I think that fact is a somewhat overlooked by some of the GnR traditionalists going in with a bunch of cheap onfield rookies that could dissolve before their very eyes.

      Rivo · 18/03/2017 at 06:45

      Thanks SC. This is my second team, the first more traditional GNR. I know the risks exist but might be worth a shot. No true ruck cover for Nankilands is a concern.

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:34

    I count 12 keepers

    That includes one of Crouch/Beams

    One ruck

    Four in defense

    Two up forward

    If things go your way it could be 13+

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:35

    But in some ways Derek is right. There are 10 clear and present keepers.

      BlakeyP · 18/03/2017 at 08:40

      Yeah but all these ppl talkin about GnR and have 12-14 present keeper are running with more rookie to get the cash for the outlay. Most of these teams have rookies in their teams that will not be there round one or will have very shaking JS like Houston and Taranto

        Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 15:14

        It's an interesting year compared to last with abundance of bombers

          Rivo · 18/03/2017 at 16:57

          Thanks for the comments.
          My alternative more traditional team has a better balance to it. Most likely my starting team pending selections…

          D: Doc, Shaw, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (EVW, Stewart);
          M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, M.Crouch, O'Mera, Swallow, SPP (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt);
          R: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica);
          F: Dahl, Buddy, Roughy, Nank, Taranto, Pickett ( Cameron, Eddy).

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 22:22

Rooster XXX you are the only unpaid member across both cash leagues. Your promise to pay was by today. I'll give you till 6pm tomorrow given you have made contact. Post that I'll illreplacing your spot out of respect for all the other members that have paid up. Sorry mate. It if is what it is

    Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:40

    jesus your a harsh man

      Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:41

      balls a bit blue????

        INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 23:10

        Its extremely time consuming organising a cash league. Let Alone 2. Its a community service that I'm proud of. Many people including myself are excited to be part of of it. Its only fair to those that have paid up to respect the prize pool & make sure there are 18 paid up teams. Yeah I'll pay next week entrants have had their chance. They all did bar one team. I'm sorry if that's your team. That spot be released at 6pm tomorrow. Sorry

          throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 23:24

          I wish you would've taken this a step further and made the time a little more annoying. Say, "3:47pm during commercial break #2 of "Unhinged Hotties by the Yarra."

          Just a suggestion…

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 00:34

    Fair enough I say, people are lamebrains these days, can't remember what they did yesterday they're so distracted by crap.

Fuzzy · 17/03/2017 at 22:40

Hey guys, I have been holding posting my team because I didn't want to spam it on every post. However, I have been fiddling around the past few days, particularly with my midfield, and don't know what the right balance is.

B: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Hibberd, Stewart)
M: Dangerfield, JPK, Hannebery, Neale, Fyfe, J. Kelly, D. Beams, Taranto (SPP, Barrett, Parfitt)
R: Sandilands, Witts (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Greene, Roughead, Black, Miles (Cameron, Eddy)

I am pretty content with the back and forward line. Standard guns + rookies approach. Ruck obviously a huge risk but I only need Witts to last to round 5 or 6 and I hopefully have Cameron as back-up if things go pear shaped. Midfield is causing me headaches though. I have a huge gut feeling J. Kelly is set for a MASSIVE start to the season with Whitfield and Coniglio both out. They will turn to him for outside run. However, I am also not convinced he will be a top 8, let alone top 15, mid come the end of the year. So am I just wasting my time and a trade?

My other option is downgrade Kelly to Swallow or O'Meara and bank $200,000 in case my rucks falter or just as general insurance. Or downgrade Roughead to Florent, Kelly to Pendlebury and have $100,000 or so left over.

Any advice greatly appreciated 🙂 sorry for the long post.

    Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:58

    i say stick to your guns Fuzzy, but its about cash generation as well so you have to look for guys that are a little cheaper and are going to make you money, this isnt your final team, remember, long season,,,

      Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:39

      Good luck….

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 23:04

soooo many people leaving Pendles out of their sides??

    Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:38

    I noticed the same thing mate… what's going on in this world?

      Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:30

      Does seem crazy but with an underdone preseason and Pies having a little more depth in the midfield rotation these days my gut tells me he won't be risked. Will play round one but might be used around the ground? Could impact scoring for a few weeks.

    I N Pieman · 18/03/2017 at 08:50

    I think people are predicting his demise of Pendles a little prematurely. Sure Treloar looks like a beast but Pendles & Swan coexisted for a long time & both were majestic high scorers. Until I can see conclusive evidence he's on the decline he's close to first picked. Dependlebury for a very good reason. Supercoach rewards players that use the pill well. And nobody uses it better

      Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:34

      I have Adams and Treloar, to have another Collingwood mid seems a lot.

      Can't have them all, so any reason to not start someone who will cost $660k is magnified.

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 23:15

Leaugue needs filling, a couple of drop outs that couldnt handle the swings, please join if you can,,,,331816, cheers ,,,,,,,,,

Goorak · 17/03/2017 at 23:30

Is it worth considering Nank at F4 ?

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 00:30

    Probably just as risky as Lekdog choosing higgins, but what fun is life without risk? 🙂

    Steeeve · 18/03/2017 at 01:07

    Considering a lot of people are doing just that, yes

Lethal · 18/03/2017 at 00:04

never done this before but some feed back would be greatly appreciated. Finished last year ranked 614 but have drastically changed my structure this year due to the very shallow mid rookie pool;

B: , Shaw, Laird, Adams, Marchbank, Hampton, Vickers-Willis (Otten, Stewart)
M: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Hannebery, Treloar, Fyfe, TMitchell, D. Beams, SPP (Barret, Hibberd, Parfit)
R: Sandilands, Witts (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, , Roughead, Nankervis, Taranto, Pickett (Houston, Eddy)

Pretty satisfied across all line and while my rucks represent a massive gamble i have Nank in the forward line to hopefully bail me out.

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:28

    Very similar to my current structure although I'm not sold on Taranto's JS.

    Let's say Sandi is rested for one, and Taranto+ another forward rookie are rested you're in strife.

    Hard to avoid such things but something to think about. Might want to change Taranto to a cheap guy in a best 22 ie WHE/McCarthy/Turner?

      Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:28

      Taranto has DPP. Swing him to mid if rested

        Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 15:17

        Then you're relying on Parfitt to be in the best 22? Maybe I'm being overly cautious but Houston could be dropped, Taranto dumped for Coniglio, Parfitt not in best 22, at the same time Sandi or Witts rested. Donut time.

Top Hawk · 18/03/2017 at 00:24

A Martini or a Shandi?

I like both.

Shaken, but not stirred thanks.

Welcome!

Top Hawk

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 00:36

    I'll take a Maker's Mark, on the rocks thanks, not stirred or shaken lol

    Patch · 18/03/2017 at 11:55

    pour que no los dos, Topos Hawkos?

    Although if it's just one, a Shandi, but with an extra shot of literally every type of alcohol you can get your hands on in case things go wrong

neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 08:03

Burnman makes an excellent point if nank and Taranto are rested on the forward line could be bad. any reason for Shaw over Simmo,/doc but great team

    neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 08:17

    SORRY MEAN sandy being rested which will happen with LYIN

      INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 09:29

      This is why I'm seriously considering a playing R3. Freo plays Sunday games mainly. So if Sandi is a late out your stuffed & munching a donut without a playing R3

        Swans2012 · 18/03/2017 at 09:34

        i agree, who knows might even make some cash from r3 for a change.

          Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:29

          Taranto has DPP. Swing him to mids if rested

        neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 12:23

        exactly pies that's why I have Witts at r3 downside miss out on gawn if he goes big and goldy when he appears Still plenty of options for vc in defence or Dahlhouse Danger locked capt

neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 08:12

don't think I can resist beams and roughy any longer.Both are fallen prems and both hopefully will not be affected by what cruelled them. JOM and Swallow have injuries that can reoccur similar to Rockys and gods son.Mids look better with 5 prems and beams. Gawn situation driving me nuts.The issue is he can be picked up cheaper later and Nank will have JS and score OK NOT AS GOOD AS GAWN THOUGH

    I N Pieman · 18/03/2017 at 08:41

    The Gawn situation is driving me nuts as well. If Spencer plays then surely he's cheaper. But the question is who's the short term replacement

      Swans2012 · 18/03/2017 at 09:39

      I agree, but I'm struggling to leave him out, I've just got this horrible feeling if I go down to witts (which I can'tt lie I'm considering) Gawn will come out and unleash 3×130+ games and put me 200 points behind in a heartbeat. At the end of the day surely you don't leave the best ruckman in the comp to rot in the forward line for more than 15-20% of game time do you? And even when he is there he might not be as productive as when he is on the ball but he will certainly still accumulate some points. I'm thinking I keep him in….

        INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 10:08

        New coach with different game plan. Hard to say how it pans out

        neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 12:17

        exactly my thoughts swanny witts is the one ive tried but gawn will fire and big Nank Witts and Cameron will not match gawn and you are rite 200 behind no made up my mind GAWN SANDY and WITTS for demon delights thanks Swanny for convincing me. I follow the dees go to all their training interstate games the lot and I have only once seen a bigger dud than Spencer and we give him to hawks last year Fitzpatrick. Bye the way one has never met a better bloke than Spencer just cant play maybe hawks next year only has a yearly contract swap for gunston would be good cheers

    Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:24

    Roughie I'm confident will be ok

    Beams said in an interview pre season that he will have to manage his workload for the rest of his career. He ain't getting back to his best, there will be glimpses to tease us. There is no way he will play every game.

Tommo09 · 18/03/2017 at 08:43

Is it bad to have 3 Adelaide players in my defence? Laird, Hampton, Otten

    INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 09:26

    If they all play not at all. 2 are cows who will be culled

      Tommo09 · 18/03/2017 at 10:16

      Yeah ok i noticed a few teams have the three of them

        INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 10:24

        If Hampton & Otten are named everyone will have them. Laird depends on your preferences with premos

          wighty · 18/03/2017 at 18:05

          Agree…no prob if all play…upgrade around byes.

Suttoo · 18/03/2017 at 09:01

DEF: Docherty, Laird, Adams, Ottens, Hampton, Vicker-Wlillis (Newman, Stewart)
MID: Danger, JPK, DePendles, Shuey, Fyfe, Titchell, Beams, SPP (Maynard, Wigg, Miles)
Ruck: Nank, Sandi (Strndica)
Forward: Dals, Macrae, JK, Picket, Black, Camroon (Smith, Eddy)
Thoughts
I want to get in The BONT but dont know hoow to fit him thoughts

Jordan · 18/03/2017 at 10:40

How many rookies do we want to start on the field is 7 too much

    Clock Management · 18/03/2017 at 13:35

    Usually 6-7 is normal, last years winner started with 7.

Harley · 18/03/2017 at 10:47

Ok, so here's my updated updated team. Looking for thoughts on where I should invest the $200 k I have left?

B: Shaw, laird, touhy, Hampton, often, vickers
(Stewart, hibberd)
M: danger, treloar, fyfe, titch, Adams, m.crouch, beams, SPP (Barrett, parfait, Wigg)
R: nankilands (stirndica)
F: reiwoldt, dahlhous, Higgins, steele, toranto, eddy
(Pickett, Houston)

I like having Adams in the middle to swing back later.

I want to keep crouch and steele as I think they will both do well and just want to risk it anyway.

I could use the $200k to upgrade touhy to docherty. Or downgrade titch to Kelly, Higgins to nank and put Gawn in ruck.

Could just put witts on bench, and upgrade touhy?
Any other suggestions would be great.

Ryan · 18/03/2017 at 11:00

Would love some feedback:

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Howe, Lloyd, Hampton, Otten (EVW, Stewart)
MID: Danger, Hanneberry, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP, Barrett (Wigg, Pickett, Hibberd)
RUCK: Goldstein, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Lynch, Roughead, Nankervis, Taranto, Eddy (Miles, Parfitt)

Thanks

    INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 11:31

    Nice Ryan. Solid Structure & a few Pods. Will be a competitive team

@The_GameSC · 18/03/2017 at 11:03

Guns N Rookies with a twist (rucks) very similar to my structure just different PODs.. coaches trying to run the midprice gauntlet will be in tears by round 5

hedski · 18/03/2017 at 11:11

1 spot left in league 586828 open to whoever

    Top Hawk · 18/03/2017 at 11:19

    Just grabbed that last spot Hedski! Let some old rivalries resume! Cheers

      hedski · 18/03/2017 at 11:24

      Sweet was hoping to get in a league with u again Toppa, I'm full up now. Bring it on.

INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 11:19

Pieman Junior Ben's Updated Team: Total Drama FC

Cash: 11.6K

S.Docherty T.Adams S.Burgoyne C.Marchbank C Hampton A.Otten E.Vickers Willis T.Stewart
P.Dangerfield S.Pendlebury A.Treloar M.Bontempelli N.Fyfe D.Beams J.O'Meara SPP J.Barett M.Hibberd B.Parfitt
A.Sandilands J.Witts L.Straindica
J.J.Kennedy L.Dahlhaus L.Franklin T.Nankervis W.Hoskin Elliott T.Taranto J.Pickett B.Eddy

He'd like to know your thoughts. Like everyone he's a bit trigger happy with the trade button ATM. He was guttered he had to get rid of Jamie Elliott (favourite player) who won't play early

    hedski · 18/03/2017 at 11:29

    You might have some competition there Pieman, fine looking team.
    Can't bring myself to risk the rucks quite so much but hey.
    My daughter loves that Total Drama Island crap!

      INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 11:47

      That's where the team name came from Hedski. Better not let him play in the cash league. Might clean us all up. He's currently having a discussion with his little bother on what to do with the 50K. Last year Pendles Adams Treloar & Witts signed his jumper, so he had to include them. I don't think I've got the balls to go with that Ruck set up either. But if it comes off your laughing

    Top Hawk · 18/03/2017 at 11:46

    A seriously good team that one. I like the Franklin pick. Nice POD. He looks pretty relaxed and refreshed. Life must be good with Jesinta. 😉 I reckon Buddy could have a big year. I am a bit spooked by your ruck structure though. A lot of moving parts there. Your total spend on your ruck formation is still just under a million bucks. I spent $900K by going "MartinLands" and Strnadica. (Only if A.Smith is not selected of course). Martin has to roam on his own, as he is a gun in that role. For me, just a bit more peace of mind and the extra $100K to spend in my midfield.

    Good luck Trigger!

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2017 at 12:39

      Hawk u wanna fill the last spot in my regulars? It has your name on it. Posted league code in comments in your league.

        Top Hawk · 18/03/2017 at 17:11

        OK. Will do

Steve · 18/03/2017 at 11:40

Thoughts on this team community, still unsure with my F3. I will also be selecting Gawn IF Spencer isnt named round one.

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Tuohy, Marchbank, Hampton, Hibberd( Otten, Stewart)

MID: Danger, Treloar, Gray, Cripps, Fyfe, Beams, Omeara, SPP ( Barrett, Parfitt, Bolton)

Ruck: Grundy, Sandy ( Strnacida)

FWD: Dahl, McCrae, Greene, Roughy, Taranto, Pickett ( Houston and Eddy)

I have $100 in the bank which is abit concerning.

All comments are welcome.

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 12:17

I see Berry is playing a NEALF practice game next week.

I worry about Otten JS.

Thinking of Berry over Otten.

Berry has DPP. Offers loophole across 2 lines until he plays.

Save a trade.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2017 at 12:38

    Latest injury list has him at 1 week

    Liam · 18/03/2017 at 12:52

    I think i'll have Berry and Otten.

    Berry on mid bench and can swing him with Hibberd.

      Clock Management · 18/03/2017 at 13:32

      Otten if he plays rd 1 won't last long, Cheney under a injury cloud he comes back straight in, he had a great year last year, no room for otten.

        Derek · 18/03/2017 at 14:08

        I agree. Can see Otten sitting bubble for 10 weeks

FEARTHEBEARD · 18/03/2017 at 13:02

COMMUNITY PLEASE GIVE ME A HAND…

OPTION 1 : Selwood, Jaeger, Witts, Cameron (3 on field)

OPTION 2 : JPK, Oliver, Cameron, Miles (2 on field)

OPTION 3 : JPK, Jaeger, Witts, Strna (3 on field)

    FEARTHEBEARD · 18/03/2017 at 21:51

    Anyone able to throw their 2 cents here please?

      Matze · 20/03/2017 at 07:10

      I would go option 2. I don't rate Witts that highly even as a lone wolf and Clayton Oliver could go big this year but he's still quite risky as a breakout choice. Think he could be more consistent than witts but do you see Oliver as a stone or a keeper?

seb · 18/03/2017 at 13:24

DEF: Shaw, simmo, laird, marchbank, Hampton, VW, (Stewart, often)

MID: danger, hanners, Selwood, treloar, Fyfe, Mitchell, beams, SPP, ( Barrett, parfitt,Pickett)

RUC: sandiwitts (strindica)

FWD: rooey, Dahl, roughy, nank, Houston, butler (Cameron, eddy)

I know this team is pretty similar to most out but would love your thoughts anyway:)

I had Taranto at M7 and McRae at F3 but decided that tmitch was more value and Houston is more likely to make more cash than Taranto so have made Houston my M8 and mitch my M6. Thoughts on this? Should I Cha e it back or keep how is?

    seb · 18/03/2017 at 18:35

    ?

      Walter Neff · 18/03/2017 at 21:22

      Very solid and very similar to my side. 3 premos in defence gives peace of mind. Premo rucks definitely seem to be a wait and see so can't blame you for going cheap there. I'm tossing up between Witts or Goldy (at the expense of a third defensive premo). My fear with not selecting at least one Ruck premo is that if both Gawn and Goldy put up monster numbers early season like last year it will be harder to trade them in. Main difference between our sides is Beams is my M6 and Nank my F5. All comes down to whether you trust Butler/Houston over Barrett/Parfitt etc for that F6 or M8 spot. Personally I feel that an extra on field rookie in Mids will be more reliable than a Fwd. Been burnt by playing too many rookie Forwards in the past – Jake Neade and Kennedy-Harris come to mind. Also I think top 6 Forwards are easier to predict this year than any other line. I have JJK, Dahlhaus, Macrae and Franklin atm. I'm almost certain they'll all be top 6.

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:14

    That's a tough one seb cause Houston is a fwd only so not sure what you're asking exactly.

TEM · 18/03/2017 at 14:51

been up day and night thinking about my team. here it is:

DEF: shaw, adams, laird, marchbank, hampton, stewart (vickers-willis, hibberd)
MID: danger, hannebery, treloar, bontempelli, fyfe, beams, taranto, spp (barrett, wigg, parfitt)
RUC: gawn, sandi (strnadica)
FWD: dahlhaus, macrae, billings, roughead, black, eddy (pickett, cameron)

i have 21k in the bank. i really want to fit in titchell but i dont see how that is possible, dont wanna get rid of any of my premo mids or get rid of beams. also not sold on macrae but i cant see many other f2 options and gawn may change to goldstein/grundy depending on if anything happens.

    neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 17:04

    one of us has bad maths tem. I have same defence tmich and witts instead of treloar/strd forwards I have turner /brodie 4 billings /black 6 DIFFERENT BUT MY BANK IS128000 .. Bye the way brilliant team tem

      TEM · 18/03/2017 at 17:21

      i know im not wrong, i have exactly $21,300 left, and thanks for the feedback.

        Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 20:00

        lol

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:05

    Consider not going with Gawn, downgrading Billings to Steele, which could end up being an upgrade, and then Taranto to Mitchell, could work. If you're not sold on Macrae, Buddy is the same price…or a Billings reprieve, lol

      TEM · 18/03/2017 at 21:21

      if spencer is named round 1 i will probably still go with gawn, i mean the guy is just too good and even if he spends time up forward, who is to say he cant get points by getting goals here and there, even if his output decreases he will most likely be the number 1 ruck unless goldstein is and he is going to share ruck duties with daw brown and maybe preuss as well, but i am very close to taking grundy instead and using that 125k somewhere else. and for franklin i am very tempted to pick him but i would rather have macrae, but if i get the money somehow i would pick jjk. i think steele is a bit too risky but i think he will do well, would rather have billings.

        Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:28

        You could make Gawn an upgrade target if you don't choose him, and remember Billings last season, went ok for awhile and then slipped into mediocrity and injury, I'd rather take a punt on Steele in any case, this is the first chance he will have had to have a full season being out of that over populated GWS. He can make a difference at the Saints, and has real talent..and is cheap as f#ck lol.

Saundo · 18/03/2017 at 15:11

Has anyone considering Mumford? I am really concerned about Nankilands?

korza · 18/03/2017 at 15:36

*Lek

Please Dog, i am begging you to dump Roughy. Upgrade to the GUNston, somehow. This is will be the biggest POD move on any line 2017.

    Bravis Toak · 18/03/2017 at 16:09

    not confident in Roughy this year?

      korza · 18/03/2017 at 16:32

      nope

        Bravis Toak · 18/03/2017 at 16:36

        Interested to know why? It can't be a durability thing considering the Hawks gave him the captaincy.

        He is a proven 90+ average supercoach player.

        what else is going against him?

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:37

    I reckon Rough will be one of the best value picks of the year, why do you think he's a no go?

Bravis Toak · 18/03/2017 at 16:13

Convincing needed please, community!

My team is almost set, I just need to pick between these two options that lie within my budget:

(a) Nankilands with Roughy at F4 and WHE at F5(no cover or budget cover if one of my rucks goes down early)

(b) Ryderlands with Nankervis at F4 and Florent at F6 (no Roughy, no WHE but I do have the safety of a ruck covering option if one goes down.

Which way do I go??!!!!

    Saundo · 18/03/2017 at 17:03

    I'm going with a, figure taking a huge risk with Nankilands anyway ! If one gets injured probably have to trade anyway

    seb · 18/03/2017 at 17:04

    If u want you could go sandiwitts with nank up forward that's what I'm running currently

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:28

    Not too keen on either of those options, Hoskin Elliot out for a rookie for mine, and Ryder I don't believe is a keeper,cause he's a lazy mutt, plus, why do you need a safety ruck (in case one goes down)?, just pick the right ruck in the first place and if one goes down, trade. I reckon Nank needs to be Ruck only or nowhere, especially not in the fwd line. Save fwd positions for forwards or forward mids.

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 16:56

BEAMS keeps calling out.

Pick me at M7. I score you big points.

    Liam · 18/03/2017 at 17:06

    He should be in your team.

    If he gets injured he gets injured but he will score 105 plus easy at 430k!!!!

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2017 at 17:51

      Yeah AFTER JLT B couldn't ignore him anymore
      Had to cull gawn but welcome beamer at M7

    SCaddict · 18/03/2017 at 18:33

    Cyril –> Nank/Steele
    Swallow –> Beams

    Problem solved – welcome!

      Derek · 18/03/2017 at 20:07

      I'm thinking McGrath and Tarento to cheapies

      Swallow to Beams

        Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:21

        Sounds good Derek, I'm not touching Mcgrath or Taranto, do you have O'meara?

        SCaddict · 18/03/2017 at 20:27

        I'm hanging on to Taranto as I see value there especially with all the GWS injuries/outs right now. Could be a nice little earner/onfield scorer for the first 2 months. I don't see similar value in McGrath although could be wrong there.

Brandon · 18/03/2017 at 18:01

G'day all I've got a league I'm hoping to fill with some of the top 1% players from this forum!
I finished 982 last year so use that as a bit of a gauge.. If you finished top 1k or think you're gonna push close to it this year then join up!
280235
Cheers

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:33

    That's not me then lol, best I've ever finished is 9000th or something crap like that.

    Andos · 18/03/2017 at 21:28

    Hey Brandon, just joined if that's cool. Been top 1% each of the last 3 years.

wighty · 18/03/2017 at 18:11

Thank God….only five days left of posting teams which will all change after team selections anyway !!

So,

Adams/Laird/Otten/marchbank/Hampton/VW…….Z Guthrie/T Stewart
Danger/pendles/Hanners/JwoodTreloar/Fyfe/Beams/D Swallow….PP/Pickett/Miles
Nankilands….Strnadica
Dahl/Greene/Roughy/Parfitt/J Martin/Eddy…..Houston/Cameron

$205.8k

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 19:54

    Doubt that defense will hold up. Thin forward line too. Very unlikely not to munch donuts or be forced to trade early.

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:19

    Gotta agree with Burnmen, I'd spend that 205k on the fwd and backlines. Upgrade Marchbank and Martin is what I'd do.

Mitchingtonne · 18/03/2017 at 19:24

I have an idea….. I think Hodge will kill it this year.
Should I put him in and bench him for week 1 then bust him out for round 2…. deffinatly a big POD.
Remember last year this worked in round 1 with Zorko.

    Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 20:05

    Not if going for overall, if only for league wins maybe.

    Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:35

    Depends on if he's gonna be late for training next week lol

IntheNickofTime · 18/03/2017 at 23:09

Simpson Laird Lloyd
Marchbank Hampton VW Newman Stewart

Dangerfield JJK
Selwood Treloar Priddis
Fyfe Swallow SPP Barrett Hibberd Bolton

Grundy Sandilands Srtndica

Roo Dahlhaus Gunston
Taranto Pickett Houston T.Smith Eddy

Am I a little thin in the FWDs? Unsure on Grundy, Marchbank and Swallow.

Still playing around with Gawn, Z Williams, Sidebottom and T Mitch.Is Stef Martin a No No this season?

Ross · 19/03/2017 at 18:31

What do you guys recon

DEF:Simpson,Adams,Laird,Thurlow,Hampton,VW (Otten,Stewart)

MID:Danger,JPK,Treloar,Fyfe,Kelly(GWS),Beams,JOM,SPP (Barrett,Hibberd,Parfitt

RUCK:Hickey,Sandi (Preuss)

FOR:Riewoldt,Dahlhaus,Roughead,Nankervis,Taranto,Pickett
66k in the bank
Any improvements?????

General · 20/03/2017 at 15:40

Good day community,
Don't really rate myself as a super coach expert, however this year I feel this is a strong outfit heading into round one. If you have a thought on it share it with me.. cheers.

DEF: Shaw, Johannisen, J.Lloyd, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (T. Stewart, Z.Guthrie)
MID: Danger, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, Swallow, SPP (Barrett, M. Hibberd, Wigg)
RUC: Martin, Sandi (Witts)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Lynch, Greene, Nank, Taranto, McCarthy (Pickett, Eddy)

*$136,600 left.

Peace

General · 20/03/2017 at 16:03

Good day community,
Don't really rate myself as a super coach expert, however this year I feel this is a strong outfit heading into round one. If you have a thought on it share it with me.. cheers.

DEF: Shaw, Johannisen, J.Lloyd, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (T. Stewart, Z.Guthrie)
MID: Danger, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, Swallow, SPP (Barrett, M. Hibberd, Wigg)
RUC: Martin, Sandi (Witts)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Lynch, Greene, Nank, Taranto, McCarthy (Pickett, Eddy)

*$136,600 left.

Peace

JerseyforHawks · 22/03/2017 at 11:16

Second comment – I see Ryan Shooie not coming out of the Hawks 22 for some youngster too soon, at all.

Phillip · 23/03/2017 at 14:34

So this is my team Lek dog and other also let me know what you guys think.

Defenders: Shaw, Rance, Adams, Lloyd, Hampton, Otten
Subs: Vickers-Willis and Stewart.

Midfielders: Dangerfield, Kennedy, Treloar, Bontempalli, Fyfe, Tom Mitchell, Powell-Pepper, Barret.
Subs: Bowes, Pickett and Parfitt.

Rucks: Nakervis and Sandilands Sub: Cameron.

Forwards: Dalhouse, Franklin, Petracca, McCarthy, Butler, Eddy
Subs: Taranto and Houston

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