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LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:06
I'm happy with the rucks but Higgins worries me, yolo

King · 16/03/2017 at 22:52
Gotta love watching those unique players though!!!(when they score well).

Tim Smith · 17/03/2017 at 00:43
maybe get Steele for Higgins? has produced well over the JLT

bruderboy · 18/03/2017 at 15:31
Love it Lekdog. I've gone TheNank too but he's sitting at F4 at the moment with Roughy in F3. I can't get myself to go Higgins been burned before.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:05
Thanks mate, I'm really happy with the team and agree with your sentiments

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:05
He was in and out but ultimately I think he'll drop off quickly like a lot of the essendon boys, don't think i need cover at this early stage

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:05
Will play pure mid but I'm not taking him, too many injuries for mine. Could be a worthy risk though

bUCKET__ · 17/03/2017 at 12:11
I'm not 100% sold. But the DPP could be bloody useful to swing into the mids if there's some good cashcows in def and a lack of mid ones.

Zos · 17/03/2017 at 13:34
Won't play more than 18 games this year either. Some blokes just break down.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 14:10
Had his best preseason ever…worth the risk in my book.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 19:44
It's a tough one. Looks anywhere from 5-10pts underpriced but his durability record is an absolute shocker. Has had a fantastic preseason which no doubt reduces that risk somewhat but I wouldn't blame coaches looking elsewhere, as frankly he's very unlikely to burn you for not picking him especially in SC with his ordinary DE in the past.
And should he fall over midseason there will now be a stack of coaches who have that headache to deal with just like all those coaches who jumped on Lids late last season believing his unreliable body would hold up. But if Adams can play 20 plus games he will absolutely finish as a top 6 defender.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:04
Closest thing to ruck cover I considered was running Nank at F5 and Witts at R2. Don't rate Ryder early in the year so there is no realistic cover outside of rookies imo.
Will trade up on Sandi early is the plan

Kevan · 17/03/2017 at 12:17
Have Darcy Cameron as an onfield rookie in the forward line Lek. Looks better with Nankilands set-up.

Kevan · 17/03/2017 at 12:26
Just noticed, no loop hole rookie?

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:44
Not at this stage but I'll probably chuck one in

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:39
Rough

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:40
My Hawks people are saying he's in line fore early games but yeah he's up in the air atm

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:40
Thanks Meph, it'll be interesting for sure.

Spifflicator · 16/03/2017 at 22:29
Not really,as most will run rookies at 7&8 or you will struggle for cash generation,plus it's easy to swap rookies if they fail. Mid pricers are notoriously difficult to get out of early in the season,when you lack the cash to upgrade,and hence have the ability to 'stuff your team' as Jock is so fond of telling us. Sandi is the other big risk,as his toe is made of glass,and the only trade option will be Witts who has papier-mâché hands!

wombatsfc · 17/03/2017 at 08:11
Really? How can you possibly state that most will be running rookies at M7,8? Have you seen more than 100,000 starting teams?
Most of the teams that I've seen have JOM at M8 and no onfield rookies/1st gamers at all.

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:07
I don't rate the midfield rookies JS so will be running JOM at M7.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:41
I think we'll get enough out of our rookies, we do every year

throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 20:30
A certain degree of faith is required. Going JOM at M8 is an overreaction, in my humble opinion.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:41
B

Adam · 16/03/2017 at 23:31
All but Howe

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:41
Howe almost made my side, freaking gun when Bucks doesn't piss about with his positioning

Harvey · 17/03/2017 at 11:37
A. Laird is consistent, Taranto is a solid rookie option and O'Meara is a gun.

Marcus · 16/03/2017 at 22:20
simmo is only in 5% of teams

MarkyV12 · 16/03/2017 at 22:25
picking a pod for the sake of them being in a lower % of teams isn't the right reason to be picking him. If he's going to be outscored by the bloke everyone else has then your not benefitting yourself at all.

Marco_Polo94 · 16/03/2017 at 22:54
I think Simmo is much more than a pod for the sake of it…. he's an uber premo who has got the job done for many years, averaged 92+ for the past 8 years. Docherty's breakout year only improved Simpson's average so I can't see that changing this season. If anything Doch will receive more attention leaving Kade to do what he does best. Can't go wrong with either.

MarkyV12 · 17/03/2017 at 18:42
I agree both will be good. Probably end up 1 and 2 again. completely understand your thinking also, nice.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:42
Cheaper (just), POD, History and Docherty is my favourite player in the comp but I saw Melbourne targeting him which was enough to scare me off.

John James · 17/03/2017 at 00:45
Yes the Dees did Target him but he still scored 95 so I'm happy to have him as my D1. Also happy you picked Lloyd although I have him at D3.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:44
Haha it'll probably backfire and I'll look like an idiot.
Agree re: crap rookies but I'm pretty certain I'll be able to hobble my way through the early rounds

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:45
Briefly but my St Kila people talked me out of it, a lot of jostling for the best 22 in the Saints and I predict his position will be inconsistent. He'll be forward more than mid.
I was running with Sandi, Witts and Nank in F5 for a long time

Plums for days · 17/03/2017 at 14:46
What was your justification on opting against Witts? This is my current set-up and reasonably content with going balls-out at this stage

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:46
Oh I've broken every rule in the book!
Beams, Sandi and Higgo as injury risks
Nank and Lloyd as breakout options…
Gonna be fun

BigPete · 16/03/2017 at 22:51
Which of these will be the easiest to cull ?

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:42
Only one I'm locking in as a cull is Sandilands at about Round 10/11/12 whenever he has his bye

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:46
I think with pittard out they both make the cut

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:47
1820 in SC but about 2100 in the Higginator

SCaddict · 16/03/2017 at 22:47
I wouldn't pay one lick of notice to the projected score. With so many rookies onfied and fallen premiums to start the season it's very misleading indeed.
So a slightly better projected score than another team this early in the season does not necessarily equal a better team.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:42
What Addict said

Kev · 16/03/2017 at 23:34
I hate projected score. It's rubbish. Doesn't take into account any variables

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:47
Cheers mate, hopefully if it goes wrong I'm the only one who fails and you can all laugh at me…I'll take one for the team

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:49
I hear ya but people love it!
Personally I'm never in copy-cat leagues but I understand the fear that inexperienced people will copy…
Hopefully my team's a bit different and it goes ok

GNR · 16/03/2017 at 23:19
Starting team is critical to a good start but trading through the year makes or breaks you. Ppl cant copy your trades mid season.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:16
True dat GNR, some people who are timepoor and have no time to research will just copy one of the experienced guy's teams, but ultimately, it's how and who you trade and when you trade that makes or breaks your season.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 22:51
$6,300 :/

SCaddict · 16/03/2017 at 23:03
Not a believer in the Sandi rainy day fund btl and I thought I was a tight arse when it came to starting bank balances ha ha.
More seriously you are going to be ultra limited making rookie corrections in the first couple of rounds and you can forget about jumping on some of the more expensive rookies like Taranto or Marchbank should they take off.
So it may be worthwhile downgrading say a Pendles to a Treloar or another $600K mid to at least build that bank up to around the $50K mark to have some sort of wriggle room for early corrections. Also going Preuss to Strnadica as you mention is likely will help out a little too.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:45
I very rarely leave any cash in the bank, there's a few places where I might be able to save a little coin but honestly I have no intention of grabbing the $200K rookies even if they go nuts the first two weeks so correctives shouldn't be too difficult

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:46
Higgins my only concern but I liked what I saw during the preseason (blame Patch). JJK might be inconsistent but long term he'll be the second highest scoring forward and I'm all about long term

Patch · 17/03/2017 at 01:07
#sorrynotsorry

GNR · 16/03/2017 at 23:18
Been contemplating witts too, not sure if I can sleep well enough to do it! plus I couldn't quite get that extra premo in that I wanted using witts as ive gone heavy in defence but also heavy in mids.

G · 18/03/2017 at 09:25
Witts is definitely risky but he could potentially work in certain team structures, though sleepless nights do beckon as you mention!

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:49
The way to think about Witts (whioch I have a lot) is that by having him at R2 you're not actually costing yourself a keeper. You're playing an onfield rookie in the rucks and a keeper elsewhere. Your team probably has about 13 keepers in it right now (maybe one short than would make me comfortable) but rather than having one of those keepers in the ruck you've got a rookie instead. If you think Witts will be more productive than an alternative rookie in an alternative position then lock him in.
To me it's about total keepers in your starting team but not where those keepers are located. PS that midfield is crazy deep

G · 18/03/2017 at 09:29
My thinking exactly re Witts. I concede that I am probably a keeper short in the starting lineup but with some tinkering I could probably squeeze one more in somewhere, and I'm confident the calibre of my keepers and the extra scoring capacity of my higher priced rookies will make up for the lack of keepers as well. Cheers for the feedback as always!

sharmanism · 17/03/2017 at 00:02
Ballsy but I like it!

G · 18/03/2017 at 09:30
Cheers!

dom · 17/03/2017 at 00:05
Good heavens that mid runs deeper than Elton John's rear.

Randomcliche2 · 17/03/2017 at 00:57
Love it. One risk is dips in prices of multiple premo mids that you may wish to snare…but hey should be fun. I wish there was a Web cam for when people open up their round match against you and see that midfield….#soiledpantface!

G · 18/03/2017 at 09:33
That's one risk I'm willing to take, and wouldn't that webcam be great to see! Cheers and good luck for the year!

Sana · 17/03/2017 at 16:26
DOOOOOD! That midfield is maniacal!! If it holds out all season you'll be laughing all the way to the bank! Good luck brave G.

G · 18/03/2017 at 09:31
That's the plan! Cheers and good luck to you to!

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:50
Thanks mate, really appreciate you taking the time to comment. JJK might be up and down but he'll score a hell of a lot of points overall!
If my two rookie mids strategy doesn't work, oh well I'll have to burn a couple of trades.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:51
Haha mate I believe ya, doesn't matter how our teams start out they are going to finish wildly differently. Back your independent selections

Pies · 17/03/2017 at 01:24
True lol

SCaddict · 16/03/2017 at 23:45
I count 4 defenders, 6 mids, 1 ruck (Nank as a future FWD) and 4 forwards as the 15 potential keepers in a best case scenario.
You are not starting Roughie, Higgins, Lloyd and Beams if you don't expect them to be keepers. Some of those guys may not survive the entire season but that would at least be the hope, otherwise I wouldn't bother picking them if you are just expecting them to be mere stepping stones only.
For to be decent stepping stone material a player typically needs to generate at least $150K, and if any of those guys increased by $150k they would almost certainly be a top player in their position and therefore would not need to be upgraded.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:53
If all goes well (which it won't) I keep Shaw, Simmo, Laird, Lloyd, Danger, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Nank (in forward line), JJK, Dahl, Higgins (unlikely) and Roughead. Maybe it's more like 14 keepers if you account for Higgins burning me

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:53
Cheers GNR, love your work

GNR · 16/03/2017 at 23:25
JOM every day, marchbank has better job security over thurlow even though for some reason they dub thurlow the Enright replacement.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:54
Marchbank will be a key cog in the Blues defence, will be given benefit of doubt and should average close to 80. Don't think we can say the same for Thurlow.
Jom will outscore Swallow but won't play every game.

LEKD0G · 16/03/2017 at 23:55
Haha I knew Higgins would be the sticking point for most, maybe I'm just trolling.
Roughy is tough, maybe he can become a F9 floater at worst?

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 00:12
If Higgins can stay on the park I think he has a strong chance of finishing a top 8 forward. Looks in ripping nick right now and appears to have a juicy SC role this season so here's hoping.

lostlarrikin · 17/03/2017 at 01:04
I like Trolls.
Especially the pretty ones with pink hair.
The wasteland that is the mid rookie pool will cause great gnashing of teeth come next Thursday.
I suspect you will be the victim of troll counter attack Lek and Higgins ownership will reach 40% by lockout.
Now I want to see you whack the C on him 🙂

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:37
Yeah that's what I'm banking on, no captain option at this stage is an issue but we'll see how R1 looks

Northernsoul74 · 17/03/2017 at 11:17
A lot of cash tied up having Witts at R3. If you're going to pick him you need to start him.

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:38
he can just swing nank for cameron and run Witts on field depending on the weekly matchup

Randomcliche2 · 17/03/2017 at 01:16
It got me confused as well and then he mentioned F9 an hour ago. Perhaps midfield number of spots confusion? Perhaps someone more learned than me can help out / correct.
And yes, I normally aim for Mid/def premo and a mid/fwd premo with a total of 24 premo players….though I often finish with no trades left with a number, 4-6ish, of rounds to go.
Interested to know what others aim for as well.

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:39
Hi Andos and Random. I think that Roughy will push for an F6 position. I see him as a keeper rather than a stepping stone however if he ends up averaging say 85 I may sit him on the bench at F7 for the final few weeks, you were right about the wrong position numbers.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:12
I'm sure Lek will engineer an appropriate loophole once the team sheets drop next week.
By my guesstimation a loop is worth about 20pts per round on average or about 400pts a season so it's a necessary tool for all serious Supercoaches.

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:46
Yeha I think his DPP is what makes him a potential keeper even if it's on the bench.
In response to JJK, I'm assuming in the same vein I'll be able to pick up Roo, Buddy etc. when they are cheap. It all balances out

sharmanism · 17/03/2017 at 07:45
Will be looking at him seriously post bye.

jezzahill · 17/03/2017 at 11:34
His injury-interrupted pre-season is a worry. Will look at him after his bye.

Holty · 17/03/2017 at 11:49
Rd9 bye hurts him

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:36
Was in my team for a long time but the bye is a deal breaker

Steeeve · 17/03/2017 at 17:04
Mate everyone is bringing him in after his bye, hopefully at a significant discount.

Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:30
yeah…. just like everyone's got the same structure, same plans and same players targeted after the byes. #LOL

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:06
Port are going to have another woeful season I reckon. Can't keep a gun like Robbie Gray down but it won't help much.

Tiger Man · 17/03/2017 at 09:34
Hasn't shown enough to justify his price tag for mine

jezzahill · 17/03/2017 at 11:34
Price and job security a concern. Better options at a cheaper price for mine.

Kev · 17/03/2017 at 10:29
Looks pretty solid, Lt. I'd sit on that cash mate, the scoring power of your two onfield rookies doesn't excite me, if any of the more expensive forward rooks start strong you can jump on with only 1 trade

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:47
I like Macrae up to Roo but not sure how that impacts bye preperation/if it does

AuroraBorealis?! · 17/03/2017 at 15:19
STK and WBD both share a rd 11 bye

LtDraught · 18/03/2017 at 00:38
Cheers mates, I've snuck Parfitt and Pickett to M10 and M11 and put Turner and Florent at F5 and F6. Leaves me with 3k but I'm considering turning Pendles into a Rd12 bye mid (jelwood/priddis etc) to help bye structures and free up a little cash. Under a week away from Rd1 and I'm still trading like a madman

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:04
Risky forwards

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:04
Just saw you put Turner and Florent to F5/F6 seems wise.

Kev · 17/03/2017 at 10:23
Who would you take out of the midfield, Leg? Neither are keepers in my eyes, or must have selections

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:04
Titch not a keeper for you Kev … seriously??
Could definitely be a top 10 mid this season now playing for a coach that doesn't actively despise him! 😉

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:48
Titch almost made the cut but is an early upgrade target, he isn't better than any of my current mids. JOM I have no interest in, will be rested.

Steeeve · 17/03/2017 at 17:05
Concerned Titch won't drop much if at all? I see him averaging far more than last year and appreciating significantly. The bargain price is also the starting price for him.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:19
Probably would go WHE although not sure I'd invest $200K in either especially if you don't also already have Taranto.

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:49
Potentially but it depends how the rest of your team looks

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:49
Roo was in there for most of the preseason, will be my first midfield upgrade

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:50
Marchbank was in there for a moment, just think the rookies we already have in defence are good enough. If Marchbank was a fwd/def he'd have made the cut.

hedski · 17/03/2017 at 10:02
I just bloody slotted Maxy back in last night….aaarrh.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 11:40
Ta
Saw enough in the JLT series to suggest Spencer will play early.
plan B?
could go balls out like Lek and go Nankilands – risky business right there
really like Big Stiffys first few games but he like most rucks depends on if another ruckman plays – archie plays and he looks like jughead. Might put him in my dreamteam as can trade every week.,
Hickey? huge potential
Grundy – like the way he gets around the ground but does he do enough actually in the ruck?
Goldy? injured preseason does Preuess play and chop him out?
Ryder – kinda leaning towards him – surely lobbe doesn't play – Kenny said likely starting team JLT 3 and lobbe was dropped.
Anyone I have missed? stuffed if I know??
Add to this and all my potential def rooks play on Sunday! no idea if they are going to get a gig or not as they will most likely form an extended bench. Adelaide, cats and north all play sunday – hate to eat a donut rd [email protected]@
same deal up forward – GWS play on Sunday – wont know on tarranto unitl Sunday
its a bloody headache.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:07
Just too much risk starting premo rucks this season so I'll be another punter subscribing to the budget ruck model.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 12:14
which budget model takes your fancy?

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:25
Still mulling over the options Trig. It will most likely be either #Ryderlands, #Nankilands or even #Sandiwitts.

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:51
Sandiwitts with a swing up forward?

DEE · 17/03/2017 at 13:24
That's the way my team looks.
Sandiwitts, with nank up forward at F4.
Allows me to go with JOM at M8.

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 12:15
That's how the Addicts role! A cheap thrill

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 12:23
Please Pieman my eyes hurt!

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 12:39
SandiWitts SCA. Your nuts are growing larger by the second! Ryderlands I like!

Bravis Toak · 17/03/2017 at 23:18
I agree with this statement. When I first looked at the ruck situation, I was dead set on picking at least one premo. No way was I going to get caught out going cheap on rucks and then getting burnt.
The more I looked into it though, the actual risk doesn't really lie with choosing Nankervis. He is a sole ruckman that we all saw can play. He has also trained week in week out against the likes of Mumford and Goldstein, so that's got to count for something.
There is a bit of risk with Sandilands, not with his scores but with his body. He could potentially do a toe or finger and be gone for weeks (he seems to heal slowly).
However the most costly risk IMO, is picking a really expensive premo, only to have them score considerably less because of the new 2x ruck thing that is happening in the AFL, and then either be forced to trade before the price change so you don't end up losing too much money.
For this reason, I too have got Nandilands in my team (pending round 1 announcements)

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 12:16
It's a tough call Trig. But I am leaning towards a cheaper Ruck set up

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 13:46
Hicksands for me with Nans Crevice up forward, wanted Ride her from as soon as supercoach opened and still might, if hes a lone wolf he will score well but i think he will get tired early to mid season, if they go double dutch hes cooked,,

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 13:21
significant.
If Spenser is named, this will turn people away from Gawn in droves.
For those who stick with Gawn and it turns out not to affect his score, happy days.
My thoughts are the death of the Third man up will significantly increase Gawn's score this year. the reduction in the interchange will mean that he rests in the forward line and kicks a few goals.
I might stick with Gawn even if Spenser is named. Will make Gawn a POD.
Spenser might affect him, we don't really know. Spenser might be gone in two rounds.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 14:09
It's bloody tempting to change tack and bank some cash but at the moment I'm sticking with the two rucks that i first put in place all those weeks ago.
Gawn and Grundy.
Both I see as keepers and both will be top three in their position I hope. Regardless of the rule changes.
There are very few players capable of knocking out those real monster scores and I just can't go in Gawnless.
Grundy is still only 22yrs old so I'm expecting an improvement on last years scoring.
I'll be spewing if the Nankilands gamble pays off I know…

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 15:26
That's ballsy stuff Ranger. Don't see that many set and forget ruck builds anymore after #Nankilands performed so well in the JLT and now combined with the "Spenser for Hire'' phenomenon.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 15:50
Can't say it's not worrying me SC but I'm trying to keep to my structures and lessons learned from previous years.

Shake n bake · 17/03/2017 at 15:28
You cant keep him if spencer plays. I know some might think he'll go fwd more, one out rucks hell score more. but we didnt need to see the practice matches to know that wont work! Goldy with daw in the side late last yr stuffed his scoring same happened with martin. Spencer may not hang around long maybe later!!!

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 15:35
Agree Shake. Assuming Spencer lines up then paying 645K for a great unknown seems somewhat irresponsible. I think like the forward line it might be best to go cheap until things work themselves out. I also can't see great cash generation coming from the rookies

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 15:49
Yeah it's the cash generation side of the equation that worries me most Pieman but I don't regard Gawn as an unknown.

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 15:58
The great unknown is the impact Spencer will have on Gawn's scoring. We know what Max is capable of Lone Wolf

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 15:55
Aren't we supposed to ignore what the uber premiums do in the practice matches tho SnB?
I dunno mate, it's worrying me to stick fat but it worries me even more to go in with an injury prone 34yr old and a bloke that couldn't get a run at it in Sydney and has only played 11 games of AFL level football.

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 16:01
Good point Ranger. I think I prefer Nank in the forward line as cover. People going with Nankilands without cover defies logic

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 16:18
If I was going to forgo the set and forget strategy I think I'd just go all in and put Witts and Nank in there.
At least then I could hugely bolster other lines and try and regard the rucks as slow burn rookies.
Yuk.
Can't believe I'm even thinking of that as an option…

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 16:37
If I look at Sandiwitts it does allows Taranto at F6, which is where I like him. The other Fwd rooks are rubbish

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 16:50
Yep
Tarranto &
Maybe Turner who I think is close to best 22 and will play lots as long as he plays his natural game like on he weekend he should do ok
Like Simpkin a bit too but not sure he gets games early as coming back from an injury might be a downgrade later
Tarranto is not exactly guaranteed a game either but cogs/whtifield missing really helps there and guess what?
he plays on bloody Sunday!!

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:45
Taranto batting a M6??

Shake n bake · 17/03/2017 at 16:15
I said we didn't need to see the practice matches to know hes scores will be effected. Im goin with what l have seen happen to every ruck combo in the home & away season! All the practice matches told me is if spencer plays l wont pick Gawn same with Daw Preuss & Goldy Archie & Martin. Id just rather use that coin elsewhere. I had Gawn one of my 1st picked when l 1st put my team together, but not happening if spencer gets a gig.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 16:26
I get it. Just not sure I agree that Gawn will be as affected as the other examples you've given.
The coin elsewhere is bloody tempting tho.
Ah well, plenty of time to change my team another 43 times.

the nank · 17/03/2017 at 12:04
Basically u start a non playing rookie who has his team not playing on a friday and you sub him on for the friday night and put the captaincy on him. You sub off your back up captain and put the emergency on him
You put the vc on someone who is playing on a Friday night lets say a Dangerfield, if he scores 120 or above you keep the vc on him. He will get double points as your non playing is automatically subbed off due to the emergency on ur bench
You receive both scores except the vc is doubled

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmtFrXPaN0

Finnius123 · 17/03/2017 at 13:41
thanks guys!

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:52
I'm not as concerned about onfield rookies but everyone has brought it up so maybe I should be worried haha

Kev · 17/03/2017 at 10:19
Good side, Adam. Jones a preseason flyer I reckon. So many ahead of him for TMitch's midfield spot

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 12:03
Not so sure Kev on Jones.
With heeney out for a bit, McVeigh not ready it will push mills back into Def, Jones will go into the mids much like JLT 3.
This makes sense. Trying to find extra cash to maybe go Marchbank up to Jones.
Nankilands?

Adam · 17/03/2017 at 12:47
Thanks fellas, Yeah these are my thaughts altho i could go marchbank ? But i dont need the coin ive still got 96k left over

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:53
He was considered but isn't better than any of my premo mids. Will watch him closely

LEKD0G · 17/03/2017 at 12:54
Hooker has been injured so that's a no and Martin didn't look great in the JLT Series

Stompers · 17/03/2017 at 13:02
Cheers bud 🙂

Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 13:11
I had Martin in before pre-season and i thought he looked really good but id didn't equate to sc points, so don't pick him but good signs for the suns.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 13:15
Very Unlikely Miles will play, and if he does get named this week, he might find himself gone round 2 when Hodge is back. don't get sucked in.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 14:37
Without putting words in his mouth I'm sure that's Lek's plan Jess.
Nank is just sitting there temporarily in the RUCK line and will either be upgraded if he doesn't work out, or will be eventually moved into the FWD line via a DPP trade to bring in an ultra premo ruck when the time is right.

Jess_Coach · 17/03/2017 at 14:53
Each to their own i guess. Rucks are hard to trust this year. Can see Nank being a top 10 fwd with #1 ruck (at least for a while), but he wont be close to a top ruckman. Lek just doesnt currently have a fwd/ruck swing option for nank, which would have me concerned. To maximise points (if only for a while), eliminate unnecessary team changes, and win this thing, its more practable to start him up forward

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 15:02
Fwiw I also have Nank in my FWD line atm like you suggest but there are many ways to go about this game which is what makes it so great. Who comes out on top … well that's why we play. 🙂

Wilson · 17/03/2017 at 16:08
I agree Jess, but Lek can move Nank into the forward line later and upgrade one of his forwards to a ruckman. This can be done by trading say someone like a SPP to a rookie then upgrading an eddy after they both reach their maximum to a fallen premo in Gawn you just move the Nank into the forward line after you hit the trade button on Eddy.

Steeeve · 18/03/2017 at 00:46
From memory the gingers were eradicated mid-season

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 13:16
Have joined

Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 13:16
BTW i know my english isnt good atm, I pulled an all nighter last night watching ncaa tournoment, so forvegive me.

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 13:18
Fyfe M7! WOW. Those 6 rookies your looking for in defence may not eventuate

Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 13:25
Hope they do but we will see, Its Zorko vs Docherty for final spot in my team,
If i go zorko my mid structure is 7-0-4 def is 1-1-6
If I go Docherty mid structure is 6-0-5 and defense is 3-0-5
I guess docherty makes sense for structure but i love looking at my midfield with 7 premos, in fact i might weaken my forward line so I have 8 mid premos

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 13:30
I don't like having SPP on the ground let alone 2 in the midfield. I will have JOM or Swallow at M7

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 15:14
Beams M7 for me at the moment

Northernsoul74 · 17/03/2017 at 15:46
Same I have Beams at M7.

Rodney · 17/03/2017 at 15:54
You're dreaming pal if you reckon you can run with 6 rookie defenders. Be prepared for a reality check next Friday night and a mad scramble for Clock Management FC next Friday night. Hope you don't have any social plans then lol!

Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 16:25
Not till late in the night haha, I did the same thing in 2013 in defense and last year did it fwd line it worked nicely but doesn't mean it will work again but I'm willing to take a punt, wish me luck I may need it!

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 16:59
When Luke Ryan didn't show up & Nick Newman didn't play JLT3 I put the 6 rookie defence to rest

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 14:28
Black I would maybe downgrade to a possible. Was dumped for the JLT3 full dress rehearsal so that is usually a bad bad sign for a rookie / non-established player.
Also didn't Stewart tweak a hammy late in that game? So I'm not 100% confident we can lock him in just yet unless it has since been confirmed it was not an issue.

Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 14:39
I would leave Black where he is, Butler has been confimed for rd 1 by dimma. Rest looks pretty good

Steve · 17/03/2017 at 14:52
So you reckon he is "highly likely" to play R1 hey? So why is he barely in any teams posted here nowadays. Would seem a no brainer at $137 grand. I agree with Addict I doubt he will make the trip to Perth next week.

Tom · 17/03/2017 at 15:32
Steve you need to do your research mate, Black will play rd 1, in terms of supercoach he won't socre very well there are better options but he will play.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 15:34
another one that plays on Sunday
just about every decent rook above plays on Sunday!

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 15:58
I agree with Tom. Very likely to play. Did miss last JLT, but so did Pendlebury, doesn't mean Pendles won't play round 1

John · 17/03/2017 at 16:07
Pendles was due to an injury concern so not comparing the same thing. When fringe players miss the final JLT it usually spells a VFL/NEAFL/WAFL/SANFL start.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 16:22
Yeah Blacky actually played for the VFL Cats last weekend so he definitely didn't have an injury niggle. He kicked just the 2 goals so didn't exactly set the VFL world on fire. He will probably get another chance to impress as I think the VFL Cats play again later tonight.
So hey who knows perhaps he may get an AFL Rd1 call up if he can kick a bag. But I still have my doubts there and certainly wouldn't term it highly likely.
But otherwise an excellent list Derek!

Steve · 17/03/2017 at 16:52
Good stuff Addict. Now that's actually called research Tom haha.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:03
Nice SC

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:14
Ziebel said today that Simpkin would "go very close" to round 1 selection.

Jordan · 17/03/2017 at 22:36
Preuss and Cameron? In highly likely

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:02
Cameron maybe? Not sure about preuss

Northernsoul74 · 17/03/2017 at 15:44
I'm running both Pendles and Treloar. If only going one I'd go Treloar.

Keenbutclueless · 18/03/2017 at 15:05
For what it's worth, I reckon the three forward rookies is a problem. I feel SPP certainly and Barrett probably have better scoring potential and better job security than any of the forward rookies. Logically then, are you not better off having them on field and taking your mid price risk in the forward line? Most of the forward rookies are playing the small forward role, with maybe only Taranto getting any midfield time with Coniglio out.
If you want a left field suggestion, run 3 premos and 2 mid pricers on the forward line. For F6, run Deluca-Cardillo from Freo. Put Pickett as F7 with the E. Put Parfitt on your mid bench. If Pickett scores well on Thursday night, leave it. If he spuds up, bring Parfitt down. Then put DC on field in the mids and put the E on another rookie and do it again.

Keenbutclueless · 18/03/2017 at 15:09
Forgot to say – the left field suggestion means you run Cameron or Pruess as R3.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 14:47
the DSmith choice is interesting. Havn't seen him in too many teams, but i'm thinking that GWS are going to kick some big scores this year, and he could do ok.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 15:18
Geez jam
3 on field rooks in the mids first time I have seen that with all the options in the mids
might cost u some points early.

Rivo · 17/03/2017 at 17:42
Maybe that's a silly question? Both options are a risk.

Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:21
Great option for overall not so flash in the leagues nank, as the mag says what SuperCoach player are you? For what it's worth I've gone similar but with StNick in place of Buddywith the reason being KPFs will have a stinker run at some stage so my plan is to only go in with 1 elite KPF (from the top 3 I rate) and pick the other 2 off when the opportunity strikes. Good luck mate, people running KPFs need it we also have to posess the largest testicular fortitude and you seem to have it in spades.

WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 15:57
that is a bloody good question!…Viney seems to score better in Supercoach (lots of tackles, contested possessions) whereas Steven seems built for Dreamteam/AFL Fantasy (give & go's, higher overall possessions)…but Steven is a couple of years advanced…Viney definitely breakout contender in my mind, Steven proven quantity…both have tempted me this year but whereas I have Steven in both Dreamteam & Fantasy I haven't backed him in SC…Viney possibly has a better upside but I have gone Hall instead in the same price range…personally I think they're both good picks and shouldn't let you down…not sure if that helps tho'…I think I've just sat on the fence

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 17:09
I'm also selecting Steven in DT. Really like those 8 of the first 10 games at the Dome to start the season leading up to their Rd11 bye. So believe a lot of Saints could get off to hot starts whether it be a Steven, Roo, Steele, Billings or others.
Viney is another one of those guys who could take his game to the next level and join the ultra elites but so could Titch, Kelly, M.Crouch, Cripps, Gaff, Shuey, Bont, Wines, Dusty and another half dozen guys I'm probably forgetting.
Out of that bunch I still like Titch the most but any one of those guys could join the Supercoach 110 club for the first time this season but which one? It just seems safer to go the JPK/Hanners/Jelwood route like Lek has done for a little bit more coin, rather than back in some hopeful who may not make that jump or even go a little bit backwards.

Kenny · 17/03/2017 at 19:18
reckon you probably have enough mid PODs to change Watson .. whilst he is in good nick and looked to have retained his ability to find the ball in the JLT, the year off is very risky. He may do a Zach Merrett and stick it up all the doubters but reckon replacing him with a more likely keeper solidifies your team. For about the same money and potential point score you could maybe put Dahlhouse as your F6 .. gives you a swinger and probable forward keeper. good luck

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 16:05
Hall is bold. If he was $100k cheaper….. maybe. For $45k more you can get TMitch

WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 17:21
Wise words Derek; I think I may have a blind spot re T Mitch due to Longmire stuffing him & us around the last couple of years…but yeah, new coach, newish role (no tagging?) and he should be a top 10 mid…Hall appeals to me because of my bye structure and he's probably top 3 mid at GC (also, Gazza late to start and may play more forward)…realise I will be carrying Hall rd 9 but he will be there for all 3 bye rounds…just a thought, probably not a very good one! Thanks!

Tommo090 · 17/03/2017 at 16:46
mate u must post your team at least once a day surely you don't need the community to look at it every day?

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 16:44
he is great if rucks solo as we saw on the weekend
if archie plays he looks like jughead.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:31
A fairly risky option as he's not the sharing type and does not play well with other ruckman at all. I still wouldn't risk it in SC myself even if Archie Smith ISN'T named Rd1.
But then again I suffered third degree burns starting Stef last season so I guess I would say that! 🙂

Wilson · 17/03/2017 at 18:29
Simpson, Marchbank for sure..Mills is in his second year and history would show even the greats like Pendles only averaged mid to late 80's in their second years massive risk for mine and tuohey has Harry o written all over his potatoe eating head.

Clock Management · 17/03/2017 at 17:35
You do realize Dimma said he is playing Rd 1 a few days back on AFL tonight,

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 17:08
I've done something similar with caddy and gawn making way for some cheaper options to give me some of the dearer rooks.
I like how you only really have 1 cheap rook on the field in each spot.
but McGrath?
I think you are the only one running with him? I don't think he will score enough for the outlay.
Big call. I think he is still adjusting to the tempo of AFL.
Better off trying to find the cash and upgrade to Jones or putting ottens on the field as he if he gets a game will score just as well

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:31
mcGrath will be a big POD, who would have thought.
I really liked what I saw in the JLT. Has class. Has DPP.
He will adjust to the pace and hopefully bag some good scores.
Playing in defence in a weak team, I think the ball will come to him.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:36
Otten looks like a 2 gamer that sits on the bubble for 10 weeks

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 01:01
That does worry me.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2017 at 23:56
Fair enough we all like some pod action
I am currently running with a guy only in 0.5% of teams.

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 17:24
I've decided to pick my team backwards on Thursday. Start with the rookies & go from there

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 17:33
I did that today and completely filled my forward line with likely round 1 selections.
Maybe we will get a few smokies

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 17:38
I have a feeling Gawn will still score well even if Spencer plays Rd1 and at some point I think Spencer will be sent back to the VFL anyway, most likely sooner rather than later. That said you still have to bet against a couple of super premos and for me that's going to be a full priced Gawn, Pendles and Doch/Simmo this season
Sorry to see you gave up on Mills but he's an undeniable risk so completely understand it. Not sure on McGrath as has he really shown us that he is up to AFL level right now, even if he proves a future 250 game player for the Dons?.Could be quite a slow burn for $200K and one you may have to correct by Rd3 but I guess we'll see what rookie picture we are presented with next week.
Good to see that the Bunnies is staying strong with Cyril and you haven't sold out for a Steele/Nank/Higgins type. 🙂

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:30
I like the talk that Spencer will play. Will give more people reason to jump off Max.
Even if Spencer plays, Gawn will kill it. I saw how much fitter he looks, lost a few KGs, he will actually score very well when he rests forward this year. melbourne will get it there alot more, he will be a handful and should kick a few more goals this year.
i'm betting against the carlton boys as well, surely they can't play that well again!

Kev · 17/03/2017 at 18:43
Gawn in 35% of sides. Second most popular ruck after Sandi (41%).

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:45
he was 42% last week, 39.8% on Monday……..

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 19:28
It's plummeting alright and should Spencer get named next Thursday it could plummet below 25% which would be about half the level it was a month ago.
Just extraordinary for clearly the best ruckman last season who has actually played pretty well in the JLT and looks fit and firing!

Shake n bake · 17/03/2017 at 19:35
Hypothetical if you didn't have Cyril as D3 who would you take?

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 20:52
The best thing about Cyril, he is $490k. I best 22 player for under $500k.
It would be Franklin but he doesn't work well with byes.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:31
I like this team Derek. Nice balance to it.

Steeeve · 18/03/2017 at 00:51
I'm with you, getting rid of all the rookies who seem iffy. In Hargreaves, in Swallow.

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 14:06
BEAMS keeps calling out.
Pick me at M7. I score you big points.

neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 18:45
Is Beams the best under 500 injuries aside I think he is .Don't play with your heart Derek Even Lloyd presents super value but Cyril without the feed of Lewis and Mitchell worries me Cheers

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:24
Cyril's last 7 seasons, 95, 99, 99, 89, 93, 93, 91 averages.
not sure if you would call that inconsistent.
i agree that he can have a good game and a bad game and they can vary alot.
he doesn't need many disposals to score well. he scored a 175 with 16 touches one day. only once in his whole career has had more than 26 disposals. very special.
this year he is in the leadership group, the hawks have a fully fit forward line (Cyril doesn't have to do everything), SMitch and Lewis have left a little gap in the midfield rotations, he is as fit as he has ever been, no sign of his hammy problems (only missed 5 games in last 2 seasons, and 2 of them were for his grandfathers funeral), some big forwards to make a contest finally that he can crumb, changes in the rushed behinds rule will keep the ball in play more, hawks have the best first 12 weeks of any club (including essendon first up), 4 or the first 5 at the MCG. still only 27 and i believe that being part of the leadership group at the club will lift his game.
Only needs 5-8 pt increase and he is easy top 6 forwards.
I may be completely taken by cognative Bias…………..

WhatsaFtumch · 17/03/2017 at 18:49
Well thanks for nothing Derek, now doing the maths to see if I can fit Cyril in!!! Really didn't need my forward options to get any more complicated : ) love your work though

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:39
my plan i think is to have cash avaliable. That is why i'm struggling with Swallow at M7.
Without him i have another rookie onfield, but i do have multiple DPP swing sets to cover lines and loop players.
he has been in and out.
I'll probably go without Swallow, that will give me $170k in the bank.
if sandi goes down prior to any price increase, i should be able to get a decent replacement for $480k.
if he goes down after the bubble, i'll be close to a grundy or Goldy.
if he misses a week, i could go McGrath or taranto (if they are not performing) to Nank, ryder even Boyd or Sinclair. Even Strd to Witts…..
cash gives me the options i need.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 19:16
But what if Sandi (or even Gawn for that matter!) is expected to just miss a game or two early in the season due to say a bad corky? Seems a little indulgent to burn a trade in such a scenario. It's not too late to go Cyril –> Nank and also make you $150K in the process … you know 2 birds 1 stone…
I just reckon we got off lightly last season with most coaches running without cover. Very doubtful we will be so fortunate again this season and we have a couple of superb cover options in Nank and Ryder this time around. Both could even prove excellent forward options in their own right with ruck cover just being an added bonus.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:14
I'll put a trade aside to upgrade Sandi anyway, that can happen anytime after round 5.
ill put another trade aside if I need to trade a ruck.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:07
An extremely solid side Ben with a bunch of premos who have done it all before so you are not banking on any breakout contenders whatsoever. I'm pretty sure Hanners has just been foxing in the preseason and it wouldn't surprise me if he bangs out a 140 against Port next weekend after some coaches have jumped off him after his indifferent JLT form.
Goldy would be my only concern but since he is one of your two Rd12 bye premos along with Danger it does help your team balance somehat. The signs he has given in the preseason haven't been particularly encouraging but just like Hanners he is a proven ultra premo who will likely produce the goods again.

Ben · 17/03/2017 at 18:30
I do feel there is a lot of rick associated with some of the breakout contenders. Maybe I'm a little bit risk adverse which holds me back from winning it all and just being super consistent in the top 1-5%. Any recommendations for breakouts?

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:52
Most breakouts fail and the track record is quite poor on seasons past (as I'm sure you are well aware of) so you are wise to resist the temptation Ben.
Of the guys who could jump to a new level the ones that appeal to me most would be Nank, Steele, Billings, Jones, Mills, Lloyd, Tuohy, Oliver, Titch and maybe M.Crouch or Kelly, although wouldn't have the stones to start those last two in particular myself.
But if you can stay strong to your proven guys your chance of sustaining substantial burn scars remains low. You may just miss out on some value for those selections that actually come off but it's very unlikely to derail your season not picking any of them.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 18:13
I think the offseason knee surgery and modified preseason program scared off plenty. But as we've seen he's built up nicely throughout the JLT and was definitely the Parker of old, doing it all, last Sunday.
I have him firmly locked in my Real Dream Team side but slightly prefer JPK for SC so that's who I'm rolling with instead.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 18:43
i think hanners will benefit most from TMitch leaving. splitting hairs though

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:49
It's probably good nobodies talking about him, will be a good target midyear.

Big G · 17/03/2017 at 19:51
I so wanted to go with him, but can't ignore Sandi.

lukesupercoach · 17/03/2017 at 20:24
Grundy and Sandi?? That's what I'm going with

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:30
Not good enough at stoppages
HO to advantage is where the Rucks will get their score. Especially with no 3rd man up.
Grundy is not good enough it that area of the game to be top 2.
Have a good look at who he played against in final games last year.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:26
He's 22yrs old Derek! You don't think he can improve on last years stats?

lukesupercoach · 17/03/2017 at 23:33
Derek explain to me how he averaged 107 in last 10? Don't care who he played, if he can add a couple more HO to advantages to his game thats a bonus.

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 12:05
I don't think he can improve his HO to advantage.
3rd man up rule scrapping will hurt him. Emergence of Cox will hurt

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:48
Not a bad pick but not convinced top 2. Cox will be playing after being elevated and will do a bit of rucking, not that it should sway you, like the value but personally going with nank and waiting to see how the ruck division pans out.

lukesupercoach · 18/03/2017 at 16:16
Each to their own! All the best lads

Pies · 17/03/2017 at 18:44
He was in my side but I took him out I don't think he's a keeper for me? I think he some one you will eventually have to trade out??? Just my opinion. Based on ur structure?

Rivo · 17/03/2017 at 21:02
Yes Seb. Get a copy of the 2017 Jock Reynolds magazine. Page 11-17. The answers there.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:34
Jock loves him
Main stat is his points per min
Last year his TOG was under 78%. If he can keep same points per min but increase TOG = gold
That's the theory

Bravis Toak · 17/03/2017 at 23:28
Matt Crouch will not be a top 10 mid by the end of the year.
Best he will do is 104-107 at the ABSOLUTE BEST… In my humble opinion, of course.

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:44
I agree, although he racks em up I think it will be a year or two till he is a lock.

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:36
Look at comments 12 months ago.

Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:32
Don't do it BB it's a VERY painful ride mate, Trust me I only stopped shaking from my experience last year when the Jock mag came out!

Tommo09 · 17/03/2017 at 19:23
I have both but I like the Bont

Krups · 17/03/2017 at 19:40
Mitch

Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:33
Think the Bont better but likely more upside to titch given his move and likely elevated role at the hawks

Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:35
Yes if going for overall (you can't afford to miss that elite boat much like Fyfe), no if you're focussed on leagues only but handy there also if he does pay off.

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:41
Very good point.
I don't think Beams is s keeper. Will need to be managed this year and will miss games.
But while he is up and going he will score very well for a $433k investment, will need returns like that when going for RANK
Great point…….

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:44
Buddy is Top 6
The Nank comes up against Kruiser, Grundy, Gawn, Jacobs, Martin, Sandilands and Mummy in the first 8 weeks. We'll see how good (or not) he is.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 22:59
My guesstimate for the Nank would be 85-95 but that's assuming he can keep Hampson out of the Tiges side for the bulk of the season and thereby operate as a lone wolf ruckman.

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:43
We will find out quickly if he's the real deal.
Kreuzer round one
Grundy round two
Lycett?Giles round three
Martin/Archie round 4
BIG MAXXY round 5

Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:48
Buddy absolutely top 5 nank, 3rd for overall score last season and 5th for avg. interestingly Dahlhaus finished 30th overall 3rd average and McRae 25th overall and 5th average so for those thinking of running with both of them from the get go they may want to have their rosemary beads handy.

the nank · 17/03/2017 at 23:02
no

Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:37
Tell him he's dreaming…

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:40
The obvious answer is no………..but……It really depends on the rest of your structure it might fix a hole somewhere else.
Can beams be a keeper this season? Would be an absolute bargain if true.

Scouser · 18/03/2017 at 10:54
Ok Sutto, it takes a lot for me to say this, MAYBE! (sorry I just can't bring myself to say yes outright!) I'm still recovering from the news Pendles came out with yesterday when he said he will DEFINITELY miss a week when baby Pendles drops (due rd8 for those interested in sending him a cute little Buckley Bear). So if you are going for overall and it helps your overall team then it could be a positive, although the key question is what are you doing with the spare cash? If not investing it to get another promo mid then I'd seriously reconsider, especially if going for rank. Good luck mate, it's going to be a helluva season!

Suttoo · 17/03/2017 at 20:03
Adams Howe Tuhoy a big risk i would get rid of one of Adams or Howe but other wise not bad

throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 20:39
Really like Krups. Taking some chances with those who may miss a game: Adams, Fyfe, Smitch, Beams, O'Meara, Sandi. My person take is not having a rook on the field is a bit of an overreaction. SPP should do a nice job as a M8. One rook always seems to get the job done. With that bank, would either upgrade Adams or Smitch to a player who is going to give you 22.
Not going to bash the Hickey call because I'm considering it myself, especially if Longer is out and Spencer and Pruess are in. HUGE gut call otherwise. But me likes it.Forward line is pretty solid.
Best of luck, my man.

Krups · 17/03/2017 at 20:54
Thanks for taking the time to give me your thoughts Throttlefinger. Might just get SSP at M8 and upgrade Sam Mitchell

throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 21:43
You are very welcome, Krups.

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:39
Im a lloyd fan mainly because he can afford two L's at the start of his name when the rest of us can only afford one? but see a good upside,,,

throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 22:54
Think that extra L is a clear sign of boastfulness. And as Yoda said, "Boastfulness leads to arrogance which becomes chlamydia that burns your SC scores."
He's a 200 year troll. Listen.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:17
Ah TF… clinical as always.
How's ya preseason going mate?

throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 23:22
Ranger, my man, how thee be?
Preseason has been the usual wave riding. Just settling in on two structures, with one that, I hope, covers R1 surprises.
How about you? Best of luck this season. I'm going to try to jump in here more. Wife, kiddies and hammer of life always competing.

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:41
The hammer is the only constant I know my friend and I'm astonished that only two structures are keeping you occupied! Man up and get three or four like the rest of us!
Gonna be bedlam early methinks. Might have to trade hard early.

throttlefinger · 18/03/2017 at 00:17
I have older structures that I don't care for as much but really planning on 2 with fall back moves in case things go south. As always want to limit trading. Show more faith and have 6 trades for finals is the goal.
That said, I don't think they will. Think the longer JLT gave the coaches longer time to assess younger players. So while it won't be ideal, R1 selections won't be shocking.
That's the hope at least…

LEKD0G · 18/03/2017 at 18:09
Good to hear from you in the comments, was waiting for someone to ask me where Caddy was…his disinterest in Richmond's final JLT Game lost me

SnakeWu · 17/03/2017 at 21:25
I've done a similar thing with picking Adams in the mid but there really isn't any point in doing that if you aren't getting hibberd or berry in defence to swing with
Rucks look like a potential tragedy but could pay off amazingly
Otherwise strong looking team

Stompers · 17/03/2017 at 22:45
Thanks SnakeWu,
Just toying with the idea that if the def and mid rookies make enough for a fallen mid prem then I can swing Adams and the Lloyd into def.
Could work, hopefully picking the right rookies would help!!
Cheers

The Ranger · 17/03/2017 at 23:21
Been playing with a similar idea but Adams has to be M6/7

Derek · 17/03/2017 at 21:53
I see 10 keepers. Doesn't seem enough. Do you have any cash left?

Rivo · 18/03/2017 at 06:42
Derek, no cash left, so it's a higher risk profile on this team.

SCaddict · 17/03/2017 at 22:47
I think 10 keepers would be a pretty harsh assessment. If you are starting Beams, Lloyd, Crouch, Nank and even Steele you are expecting them to be keepers as they would likely make fairly mediocre cash cows otherwise.
You are definitely tilted towards more of a midpriced strategy but it's not crazy over the top for mine. One or two may backfire but that's the risk with midprices and the upside is that there appears to be substantial value in those selections should they deliver as hoped.
At least you are limiting your risk with regards to onfield rookies which I think is a real positive given this rookie class from hell we are facing this season. I think that fact is a somewhat overlooked by some of the GnR traditionalists going in with a bunch of cheap onfield rookies that could dissolve before their very eyes.

Rivo · 18/03/2017 at 06:45
Thanks SC. This is my second team, the first more traditional GNR. I know the risks exist but might be worth a shot. No true ruck cover for Nankilands is a concern.

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:34
I count 12 keepers
That includes one of Crouch/Beams
One ruck
Four in defense
Two up forward
If things go your way it could be 13+

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:35
But in some ways Derek is right. There are 10 clear and present keepers.

BlakeyP · 18/03/2017 at 08:40
Yeah but all these ppl talkin about GnR and have 12-14 present keeper are running with more rookie to get the cash for the outlay. Most of these teams have rookies in their teams that will not be there round one or will have very shaking JS like Houston and Taranto

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 15:14
It's an interesting year compared to last with abundance of bombers

Rivo · 18/03/2017 at 16:57
Thanks for the comments.
My alternative more traditional team has a better balance to it. Most likely my starting team pending selections…
D: Doc, Shaw, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (EVW, Stewart);
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, M.Crouch, O'Mera, Swallow, SPP (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt);
R: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica);
F: Dahl, Buddy, Roughy, Nank, Taranto, Pickett ( Cameron, Eddy).

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:40
jesus your a harsh man

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:41
balls a bit blue????

INPieman · 17/03/2017 at 23:10
Its extremely time consuming organising a cash league. Let Alone 2. Its a community service that I'm proud of. Many people including myself are excited to be part of of it. Its only fair to those that have paid up to respect the prize pool & make sure there are 18 paid up teams. Yeah I'll pay next week entrants have had their chance. They all did bar one team. I'm sorry if that's your team. That spot be released at 6pm tomorrow. Sorry

throttlefinger · 17/03/2017 at 23:24
I wish you would've taken this a step further and made the time a little more annoying. Say, "3:47pm during commercial break #2 of "Unhinged Hotties by the Yarra."
Just a suggestion…

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 00:34
Fair enough I say, people are lamebrains these days, can't remember what they did yesterday they're so distracted by crap.

Skindog · 17/03/2017 at 22:58
i say stick to your guns Fuzzy, but its about cash generation as well so you have to look for guys that are a little cheaper and are going to make you money, this isnt your final team, remember, long season,,,

Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:39
Good luck….

Dee · 17/03/2017 at 23:38
I noticed the same thing mate… what's going on in this world?

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:30
Does seem crazy but with an underdone preseason and Pies having a little more depth in the midfield rotation these days my gut tells me he won't be risked. Will play round one but might be used around the ground? Could impact scoring for a few weeks.

I N Pieman · 18/03/2017 at 08:50
I think people are predicting his demise of Pendles a little prematurely. Sure Treloar looks like a beast but Pendles & Swan coexisted for a long time & both were majestic high scorers. Until I can see conclusive evidence he's on the decline he's close to first picked. Dependlebury for a very good reason. Supercoach rewards players that use the pill well. And nobody uses it better

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:34
I have Adams and Treloar, to have another Collingwood mid seems a lot.
Can't have them all, so any reason to not start someone who will cost $660k is magnified.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 00:30
Probably just as risky as Lekdog choosing higgins, but what fun is life without risk? 🙂

Steeeve · 18/03/2017 at 01:07
Considering a lot of people are doing just that, yes

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 00:28
Very similar to my current structure although I'm not sold on Taranto's JS.
Let's say Sandi is rested for one, and Taranto+ another forward rookie are rested you're in strife.
Hard to avoid such things but something to think about. Might want to change Taranto to a cheap guy in a best 22 ie WHE/McCarthy/Turner?

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:28
Taranto has DPP. Swing him to mid if rested

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 15:17
Then you're relying on Parfitt to be in the best 22? Maybe I'm being overly cautious but Houston could be dropped, Taranto dumped for Coniglio, Parfitt not in best 22, at the same time Sandi or Witts rested. Donut time.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 00:36
I'll take a Maker's Mark, on the rocks thanks, not stirred or shaken lol

Patch · 18/03/2017 at 11:55
pour que no los dos, Topos Hawkos?
Although if it's just one, a Shandi, but with an extra shot of literally every type of alcohol you can get your hands on in case things go wrong

neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 08:17
SORRY MEAN sandy being rested which will happen with LYIN

INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 09:29
This is why I'm seriously considering a playing R3. Freo plays Sunday games mainly. So if Sandi is a late out your stuffed & munching a donut without a playing R3

Swans2012 · 18/03/2017 at 09:34
i agree, who knows might even make some cash from r3 for a change.

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:29
Taranto has DPP. Swing him to mids if rested

neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 12:23
exactly pies that's why I have Witts at r3 downside miss out on gawn if he goes big and goldy when he appears Still plenty of options for vc in defence or Dahlhouse Danger locked capt

I N Pieman · 18/03/2017 at 08:41
The Gawn situation is driving me nuts as well. If Spencer plays then surely he's cheaper. But the question is who's the short term replacement

Swans2012 · 18/03/2017 at 09:39
I agree, but I'm struggling to leave him out, I've just got this horrible feeling if I go down to witts (which I can'tt lie I'm considering) Gawn will come out and unleash 3×130+ games and put me 200 points behind in a heartbeat. At the end of the day surely you don't leave the best ruckman in the comp to rot in the forward line for more than 15-20% of game time do you? And even when he is there he might not be as productive as when he is on the ball but he will certainly still accumulate some points. I'm thinking I keep him in….

INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 10:08
New coach with different game plan. Hard to say how it pans out

neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 12:17
exactly my thoughts swanny witts is the one ive tried but gawn will fire and big Nank Witts and Cameron will not match gawn and you are rite 200 behind no made up my mind GAWN SANDY and WITTS for demon delights thanks Swanny for convincing me. I follow the dees go to all their training interstate games the lot and I have only once seen a bigger dud than Spencer and we give him to hawks last year Fitzpatrick. Bye the way one has never met a better bloke than Spencer just cant play maybe hawks next year only has a yearly contract swap for gunston would be good cheers

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 10:24
Roughie I'm confident will be ok
Beams said in an interview pre season that he will have to manage his workload for the rest of his career. He ain't getting back to his best, there will be glimpses to tease us. There is no way he will play every game.

INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 09:26
If they all play not at all. 2 are cows who will be culled

Tommo09 · 18/03/2017 at 10:16
Yeah ok i noticed a few teams have the three of them

INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 10:24
If Hampton & Otten are named everyone will have them. Laird depends on your preferences with premos

wighty · 18/03/2017 at 18:05
Agree…no prob if all play…upgrade around byes.

Clock Management · 18/03/2017 at 13:35
Usually 6-7 is normal, last years winner started with 7.

INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 11:31
Nice Ryan. Solid Structure & a few Pods. Will be a competitive team

Top Hawk · 18/03/2017 at 11:19
Just grabbed that last spot Hedski! Let some old rivalries resume! Cheers

hedski · 18/03/2017 at 11:24
Sweet was hoping to get in a league with u again Toppa, I'm full up now. Bring it on.

hedski · 18/03/2017 at 11:29
You might have some competition there Pieman, fine looking team.
Can't bring myself to risk the rucks quite so much but hey.
My daughter loves that Total Drama Island crap!

INPieman · 18/03/2017 at 11:47
That's where the team name came from Hedski. Better not let him play in the cash league. Might clean us all up. He's currently having a discussion with his little bother on what to do with the 50K. Last year Pendles Adams Treloar & Witts signed his jumper, so he had to include them. I don't think I've got the balls to go with that Ruck set up either. But if it comes off your laughing

Top Hawk · 18/03/2017 at 11:46
A seriously good team that one. I like the Franklin pick. Nice POD. He looks pretty relaxed and refreshed. Life must be good with Jesinta. 😉 I reckon Buddy could have a big year. I am a bit spooked by your ruck structure though. A lot of moving parts there. Your total spend on your ruck formation is still just under a million bucks. I spent $900K by going "MartinLands" and Strnadica. (Only if A.Smith is not selected of course). Martin has to roam on his own, as he is a gun in that role. For me, just a bit more peace of mind and the extra $100K to spend in my midfield.
Good luck Trigger!

TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2017 at 12:39
Hawk u wanna fill the last spot in my regulars? It has your name on it. Posted league code in comments in your league.

Top Hawk · 18/03/2017 at 17:11
OK. Will do

TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2017 at 12:38
Latest injury list has him at 1 week

Liam · 18/03/2017 at 12:52
I think i'll have Berry and Otten.
Berry on mid bench and can swing him with Hibberd.

Clock Management · 18/03/2017 at 13:32
Otten if he plays rd 1 won't last long, Cheney under a injury cloud he comes back straight in, he had a great year last year, no room for otten.

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 14:08
I agree. Can see Otten sitting bubble for 10 weeks

FEARTHEBEARD · 18/03/2017 at 21:51
Anyone able to throw their 2 cents here please?

Matze · 20/03/2017 at 07:10
I would go option 2. I don't rate Witts that highly even as a lone wolf and Clayton Oliver could go big this year but he's still quite risky as a breakout choice. Think he could be more consistent than witts but do you see Oliver as a stone or a keeper?

seb · 18/03/2017 at 18:35
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Walter Neff · 18/03/2017 at 21:22
Very solid and very similar to my side. 3 premos in defence gives peace of mind. Premo rucks definitely seem to be a wait and see so can't blame you for going cheap there. I'm tossing up between Witts or Goldy (at the expense of a third defensive premo). My fear with not selecting at least one Ruck premo is that if both Gawn and Goldy put up monster numbers early season like last year it will be harder to trade them in. Main difference between our sides is Beams is my M6 and Nank my F5. All comes down to whether you trust Butler/Houston over Barrett/Parfitt etc for that F6 or M8 spot. Personally I feel that an extra on field rookie in Mids will be more reliable than a Fwd. Been burnt by playing too many rookie Forwards in the past – Jake Neade and Kennedy-Harris come to mind. Also I think top 6 Forwards are easier to predict this year than any other line. I have JJK, Dahlhaus, Macrae and Franklin atm. I'm almost certain they'll all be top 6.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:14
That's a tough one seb cause Houston is a fwd only so not sure what you're asking exactly.

neil Demons Delight · 18/03/2017 at 17:04
one of us has bad maths tem. I have same defence tmich and witts instead of treloar/strd forwards I have turner /brodie 4 billings /black 6 DIFFERENT BUT MY BANK IS128000 .. Bye the way brilliant team tem

TEM · 18/03/2017 at 17:21
i know im not wrong, i have exactly $21,300 left, and thanks for the feedback.

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 20:00
lol

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:05
Consider not going with Gawn, downgrading Billings to Steele, which could end up being an upgrade, and then Taranto to Mitchell, could work. If you're not sold on Macrae, Buddy is the same price…or a Billings reprieve, lol

TEM · 18/03/2017 at 21:21
if spencer is named round 1 i will probably still go with gawn, i mean the guy is just too good and even if he spends time up forward, who is to say he cant get points by getting goals here and there, even if his output decreases he will most likely be the number 1 ruck unless goldstein is and he is going to share ruck duties with daw brown and maybe preuss as well, but i am very close to taking grundy instead and using that 125k somewhere else. and for franklin i am very tempted to pick him but i would rather have macrae, but if i get the money somehow i would pick jjk. i think steele is a bit too risky but i think he will do well, would rather have billings.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 21:28
You could make Gawn an upgrade target if you don't choose him, and remember Billings last season, went ok for awhile and then slipped into mediocrity and injury, I'd rather take a punt on Steele in any case, this is the first chance he will have had to have a full season being out of that over populated GWS. He can make a difference at the Saints, and has real talent..and is cheap as f#ck lol.

Bravis Toak · 18/03/2017 at 16:09
not confident in Roughy this year?

korza · 18/03/2017 at 16:32
nope

Bravis Toak · 18/03/2017 at 16:36
Interested to know why? It can't be a durability thing considering the Hawks gave him the captaincy.
He is a proven 90+ average supercoach player.
what else is going against him?

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:37
I reckon Rough will be one of the best value picks of the year, why do you think he's a no go?

Saundo · 18/03/2017 at 17:03
I'm going with a, figure taking a huge risk with Nankilands anyway ! If one gets injured probably have to trade anyway

seb · 18/03/2017 at 17:04
If u want you could go sandiwitts with nank up forward that's what I'm running currently

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:28
Not too keen on either of those options, Hoskin Elliot out for a rookie for mine, and Ryder I don't believe is a keeper,cause he's a lazy mutt, plus, why do you need a safety ruck (in case one goes down)?, just pick the right ruck in the first place and if one goes down, trade. I reckon Nank needs to be Ruck only or nowhere, especially not in the fwd line. Save fwd positions for forwards or forward mids.

Liam · 18/03/2017 at 17:06
He should be in your team.
If he gets injured he gets injured but he will score 105 plus easy at 430k!!!!

TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2017 at 17:51
Yeah AFTER JLT B couldn't ignore him anymore
Had to cull gawn but welcome beamer at M7

SCaddict · 18/03/2017 at 18:33
Cyril –> Nank/Steele
Swallow –> Beams
Problem solved – welcome!

Derek · 18/03/2017 at 20:07
I'm thinking McGrath and Tarento to cheapies
Swallow to Beams

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:21
Sounds good Derek, I'm not touching Mcgrath or Taranto, do you have O'meara?

SCaddict · 18/03/2017 at 20:27
I'm hanging on to Taranto as I see value there especially with all the GWS injuries/outs right now. Could be a nice little earner/onfield scorer for the first 2 months. I don't see similar value in McGrath although could be wrong there.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:33
That's not me then lol, best I've ever finished is 9000th or something crap like that.

Andos · 18/03/2017 at 21:28
Hey Brandon, just joined if that's cool. Been top 1% each of the last 3 years.

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 19:54
Doubt that defense will hold up. Thin forward line too. Very unlikely not to munch donuts or be forced to trade early.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:19
Gotta agree with Burnmen, I'd spend that 205k on the fwd and backlines. Upgrade Marchbank and Martin is what I'd do.

Burnmen · 18/03/2017 at 20:05
Not if going for overall, if only for league wins maybe.

Russ in W.A · 18/03/2017 at 20:35
Depends on if he's gonna be late for training next week lol