LekDog Supercoach Team Reveal
Well community, here we are again for the third yearly team reveal of Lekdog’s Puppies.
What an offseason it has been. I traveled to America and spent many hours pumping teams into the Higginator, upon my return I began creating teams in the Supercoach selector, and now I lay my team before you.
This isn’t my first iteration by any stretch of the imagination; in fact I have 47 screenshots of different teams across my desktops. And like the use of carbon dating in the polar icecaps to trace global warming, I can trace my insanity across the last three months by flicking through a few of these pictures…it has been a long road.
Am I happy with my team? No. Am I confident with my team? No. Did I ignore the 10 Commandments article that Patch and I wrote? Yes. Am I going to have fun going with a new strategy? You better believe it!
MY STRATEGY
I’ve done the guns and rookies thing, it’s worked and it keeps me in the top 1% every year, but 2017 is the year that I make a splash. Maybe I don’t win the $50K but hear me now; I will beat my 2016 best weekly ranking of 10th this year.
How am I going to do it? #Nankilands…or more accurately some midprice madness, but it all starts in the ruck.
MY PLAYERS
RUCKS
On the 24th of February I first floated the idea of #Nankilands, mostly out of humor, a little out of fear, and if I’m honest a little out of arousal. Still in its infancy, the outlandish idea of #Nankilands was yet to even receive a hashtag I would repeat many times over the next few weeks.
Very few were convinced…
Even I had my doubts…
But one man inspired a glimmer of hope in my idea and it reshaped my entire preseason, that man of course was the Father of Fantasy.
So why does #Nankilands excite me? It’s the potential for high point production combined with a low price tag allowing for premium purchases around the ground.
I am hoping that Toby Nankervis will end 2017 as a keeper in the forward line. He is the number one ruckman at Richmond and averaged 102.3 Supercoach points on just 77.6% time on ground throughout the JLT series.
Aaron Sandilands is not a midprice player in my eyes. He is a fallen premium, which is a major distinction in my eyes. Sandilands will play 6 of his first 9 games at Domain Stadium, which is big because it will hopefully alleviate any risks of the big fella being rested. He also averaged 100.5 Supercoach points from 72% game time across the JLT series.
If Nankervis can average 89 and Sandilands can average 90 then by Round 10 the #Nankilands duo will have produced 1,790 points and $214,286 in accrued value. All this for the price of Max Gawn!?! Where will I spend all my free cash? Pretty much in my defence.
Just for clarity, Darcy Cameron will probably become Strnadica for loophole purposes.
DEFENDERS
I have elected to go one “premium” deeper than most in the defensive line. This has been a point of contention amongst my peers but I feel it will pay off dividends.
The first thing you’ll notice is that I’ve broken my own key rule and outlaid more than 10% of my total budget on my D1 and D2 positions. I am doing so for job security and consistent scoring.
I see Kade Simpson as maintaining a 100+ average under Brendan Bolton’s defensive structure. Nothing puts me at ease like seeing Simmo don the long sleeves on a cold afternoon and generally that translates to Supercoach relevancy #SleeveWatch.
Similarly Heath Shaw is as good as they come in defence and whilst some people have fears that he’ll be tagged out of games, his 2016 high score of 203 eases my mind. Sure he had some low scoring games but he was still the third ranked defender for total points in 2016.
Sure both of these older players will lose cash but the pair have missed a combined 6 games over the last three years and should award me with 2100 points by Round 10.
Rory Laird has been in and out of my side this preseason but ultimately if he can get his body right he won’t dip below $500K in 2017. He played very well in the preseason JLT Series and looks set to run through the midfield in the real deal. Lock him in.
Finally I have another midprice breakout contender in my side, Jake Lloyd. Last year I selected Dane Rampe who ended up the 13th ranked defender and this year I think that Lloyd, who finished as the 15th ranked defender in 2016, can reach even higher in 2017. Over his last 10 games (including finals and JLT Series) Lloyd has averaged 98.6 Supercoach points, which is about what I’d expect him to average throughout 2017.
Whilst I’m aware of a decent number of rookies available for our backlines I’m confident that the four I have selected are the best in terms of cash generation and job security.
Hampton tore up the preseason averaging 88 from 76.3% game time; Otten averaged 85.3 from 85% time on ground, Vickers-Willis averaged 65.3 from 83.6% and finally Stewart averaged 62.3 from 83.6% game time. These four players appear to be our best bet for backline security.
MIDFIELDERS
The core five players in my midfield haven’t changed this preseason.
Patrick Dangerfield had 18 scores of 101+ in 2016. For the second time this year I’m going to list them and then write nothing else on him.
162, 166, 137, 132, 129, 132, 127, 124, 229, 173, 110, 135, 140, 111, 144, 101, 131, 155.
Scott Pendlebury is probably the least secure of my five uber-premiums due to concerns over his calf but if he’s named in round 1 I’ll lock him away. Since 2008 Pendles has been the second best player in the competition and I see no reason as to why that would change in 2017.
Josh P Kennedy, Joel Selwood and Nat Fyfe (#FyfeIsLife) should all end up as top 8 averaging midfielders come the end of 2017. JPK sits in my midfield as a consistent performer and bye round captaincy option whereas Selwood and Fyfe are in my side for their explosive performances and ability to break games open.
Dayne Beams is my biggest risk in the midfield but I’m willing to risk a trade for his upside. Beams averaged 113.2 Supercoach points across 77 regular season games between 2011 and 2015. He basically didn’t play in 2016 and whilst his body is a concern I believe that Brisbane are confident that he’ll be back to his best as is evident in the club giving him the captaincy.
Running two on field rookies is a risk but I believe that I have offset the potential point loss of not running an O’Meara/Oliver across the rest of my premiums. My rookies are obviously subject to change but I think that Sam Powell-Pepper and a combination of Parfitt/Barrett will allow for consistent point production and cash generation.
FORWARDS
Straight away you’ll notice I’m riding a rollercoaster in the forwardline. But when you’re going for overall ranking rather than league wins I don’t think it matters if you get a little bit sick on the occasional big drop.
Josh J Kennedy is perfectly priced for mine, and is ranked as the number one select option for forwards in the Jock Reynolds Magazine. He was the highest scoring forward in 2016 and has only missed three games in the last four years. Yeah he’s going to drop a 50 but he’s also going to score 150 against the Blues…swings and roundabouts.
Luke Dahlhaus has been in and out of my side due mostly to his huge team selection percentage (currently at 42.2%). Between 2013 and 2015 Dahl was the second highest scoring forward with 5,851 points (surprisingly behind Jack Gunston who is still fighting hard to make the Puppies). If he can stay on the park, which I think he will, then he’ll be a top 3 forward for 2017.
Hey remember this?
So yeah I’m ignoring that thanks to the beloved Patch, so when this backfires direct your Tweets saying “I told you so” towards him and not me. Shaun Higgins is in my side despite history and logic telling me not to select him. I watched every North Melbourne game this preseason and Higgins looked good, really good. He averaged 97 from 65% game time in a depleted Kangaroos outfit. I would expect him to average 90 (which will get him close to a top 8 forward) and I’m hoping he can play 20+ games…YOLO.
Jarryd Roughead was in one of my Top-5 articles as a must have. It has taken me a while to actually lock him in but damn he looks good at F4. He’s priced to average 70.8 and I think that conservatively he could average 85 in 2017, making him the perfect F6 at a very cheap price. His role in the JLT also intrigued me as he was basically playing on-ball when not resting forward…I think he’s a very good selection.
Our forwardline rookies are actually pretty decent this year despite the fact that most of them play on Sunday in Round 1. Eddy and Houston have been upgraded for Port and with Pittard out, Houston at least has good job security playing off halfback. Miles and Butler are easily interchangeable with Schoenmakers, Turner etc.
SUMMARY
So there we have it community, Lekdog’s Puppies Round 1 side for 2017. There’s a fair bit of risk involved in my structures but I still think that I have 15 potential keepers in my side.
I’ve played it safe every year for as long as I remember so why not try adding some excitement to my 2017 in the form of a rollercoaster/injury prone Supercoach side? If it all goes to hell, well we have 30 trades.
As I say every year, picking your Round 1 side is the easy part but trading your way to glory is where it gets hard.
Let me know what you think in the comments or on Twitter community and may the Supercoach gods shine down upon us all.
Ballsy ruck combo and Higgins that could make or break you lek otherwise a very good team
I'm happy with the rucks but Higgins worries me, yolo
Gotta love watching those unique players though!!!(when they score well).
maybe get Steele for Higgins? has produced well over the JLT
Love it Lekdog. I've gone TheNank too but he's sitting at F4 at the moment with Roughy in F3. I can't get myself to go Higgins been burned before.
I like this.
And I like the magazine, too, because it gave some consideration to taking more risks than usual. After all, are we looking for a respectable third in our little league, or something a bit more interesting? And, if there were a year to take a few risks, would it not be this one?
Supercoach is in its infancy. Many of the Golden Rules of selecting a team – whilst based on lots of data – are based on a very few overall years of competition.
#Nankilands it is.
Thanks mate, I'm really happy with the team and agree with your sentiments
Love it Lek. Great write up too. Interesting justifications. Did you ever consider running Ryder in the fwd line as back up? Seems to be in decent touch.
He was in and out but ultimately I think he'll drop off quickly like a lot of the essendon boys, don't think i need cover at this early stage
Taylor Adams ? Thoughts everyone I'm concerned never played over 18 games but feel he will average top5 numbers but not sure how many games
Will play pure mid but I'm not taking him, too many injuries for mine. Could be a worthy risk though
I'm not 100% sold. But the DPP could be bloody useful to swing into the mids if there's some good cashcows in def and a lack of mid ones.
Won't play more than 18 games this year either. Some blokes just break down.
Had his best preseason ever…worth the risk in my book.
It's a tough one. Looks anywhere from 5-10pts underpriced but his durability record is an absolute shocker. Has had a fantastic preseason which no doubt reduces that risk somewhat but I wouldn't blame coaches looking elsewhere, as frankly he's very unlikely to burn you for not picking him especially in SC with his ordinary DE in the past.
And should he fall over midseason there will now be a stack of coaches who have that headache to deal with just like all those coaches who jumped on Lids late last season believing his unreliable body would hold up. But if Adams can play 20 plus games he will absolutely finish as a top 6 defender.
Nice team Lek. I do like Lloyd at D4 and having the DPP swing with Hibberd. And thats the trade off in having a rookie set up at F5-8. No DPP ruck cover in the Forward line?
Closest thing to ruck cover I considered was running Nank at F5 and Witts at R2. Don't rate Ryder early in the year so there is no realistic cover outside of rookies imo.
Will trade up on Sandi early is the plan
Have Darcy Cameron as an onfield rookie in the forward line Lek. Looks better with Nankilands set-up.
Just noticed, no loop hole rookie?
Not at this stage but I'll probably chuck one in
Rough or no
Rough
Good team, I like the structure. I think you might need a backup plan in the forward line though, can't see Miles getting a game. might need to lighten the defence a tad, or Witts R2, Nank F5
My Hawks people are saying he's in line fore early games but yeah he's up in the air atm
I wish I had the stones to pick Higgins and im a North fan. Love the structure, might have to play around with mine a little. Good luck for the season ahead.
Thanks Meph, it'll be interesting for sure.
Thanks for the headsup on Nank mate in return I need to tell you that Beams isn't your biggest midfield risk your M7 and M8 are
Not really,as most will run rookies at 7&8 or you will struggle for cash generation,plus it's easy to swap rookies if they fail. Mid pricers are notoriously difficult to get out of early in the season,when you lack the cash to upgrade,and hence have the ability to 'stuff your team' as Jock is so fond of telling us. Sandi is the other big risk,as his toe is made of glass,and the only trade option will be Witts who has papier-mâché hands!
I think we'll get enough out of our rookies, we do every year
A certain degree of faith is required. Going JOM at M8 is an overreaction, in my humble opinion.
Laird, Taranto and omear
Or
Howe, roughy and swallow
B
All but Howe
Howe almost made my side, freaking gun when Bucks doesn't piss about with his positioning
A. Laird is consistent, Taranto is a solid rookie option and O'Meara is a gun.
Like to hear your thoughts on why you've gone for Simmo over the Doc. I can't bloody split em, want both but may affect me with byes
simmo is only in 5% of teams
picking a pod for the sake of them being in a lower % of teams isn't the right reason to be picking him. If he's going to be outscored by the bloke everyone else has then your not benefitting yourself at all.
I think Simmo is much more than a pod for the sake of it…. he's an uber premo who has got the job done for many years, averaged 92+ for the past 8 years. Docherty's breakout year only improved Simpson's average so I can't see that changing this season. If anything Doch will receive more attention leaving Kade to do what he does best. Can't go wrong with either.
I agree both will be good. Probably end up 1 and 2 again. completely understand your thinking also, nice.
Cheaper (just), POD, History and Docherty is my favourite player in the comp but I saw Melbourne targeting him which was enough to scare me off.
Yes the Dees did Target him but he still scored 95 so I'm happy to have him as my D1. Also happy you picked Lloyd although I have him at D3.
This is about as close to traditional GnR as I think you can go in 2017. I see you are not currently buying into the popular $200K rookie options either like Marchbank and Taranto.
And whilst you are definitely limiting your midpriced risk compared to many teams your rookie risk looks kind of high for my liking. Sure whilst many of those forward and mid rookies may actually get named Rd1 their JS and/or scoring output could prove very dodgy indeed and it may leave you a little exposed should some of them get dropped in the opening month or just spud it up. This is the worst rookie class we have seen in a long while hence the attraction of midpricers and a few of the $200K rookies.
At least you are going with ultra tried and true premos for the most part so the risk of any of those selections backfiring is fairly low. And good on you Lek for living and breathing #Nankilands. It should be a central talking point for much of the early season so it will be fascinating to see how that all pans out either for good or bad.
Haha it'll probably backfire and I'll look like an idiot.
Agree re: crap rookies but I'm pretty certain I'll be able to hobble my way through the early rounds
you nankilands fanboys play it so safe in the ruck.
#wittilands
did you consider steele among your roller coaster forwards?
Briefly but my St Kila people talked me out of it, a lot of jostling for the best 22 in the Saints and I predict his position will be inconsistent. He'll be forward more than mid.
I was running with Sandi, Witts and Nank in F5 for a long time
What was your justification on opting against Witts? This is my current set-up and reasonably content with going balls-out at this stage
Hey Lekdog,
Love your team and your magnificent justification.
I will be cerebally masticating this article with great delight for some time.
Your risk profile is askew.
End of last season we said:
1. No injury risks next season
2. Up and coming mids will shine
3.Guns an Rookies, no mid price. Period.
Have you followed these 2017 golden rules?
P.S Regret the Period thing………..
Oh I've broken every rule in the book!
Beams, Sandi and Higgo as injury risks
Nank and Lloyd as breakout options…
Gonna be fun
Which of these will be the easiest to cull ?
Only one I'm locking in as a cull is Sandilands at about Round 10/11/12 whenever he has his bye
Is the room for Bonner and Houston in Ports team because you think Bonner would be picked over Houston?
I think with pittard out they both make the cut
Lekdog out of interest what is the projected score for the puppies?
Also just wanted to get the communities thoughts on whether this is important or not.
1820 in SC but about 2100 in the Higginator
I wouldn't pay one lick of notice to the projected score. With so many rookies onfied and fallen premiums to start the season it's very misleading indeed.
So a slightly better projected score than another team this early in the season does not necessarily equal a better team.
What Addict said
I hate projected score. It's rubbish. Doesn't take into account any variables
Can't bring myself to going with them 2 rucks, it looks good other then that, yr not taking a backup for Sandi in either, ballsy move Lekdog other then that its hard to fault yr team
Good luck 4 the season Lek…
Cheers mate, hopefully if it goes wrong I'm the only one who fails and you can all laugh at me…I'll take one for the team
I hate the whole team reveal concept. Though I enjoy reading about it. Best done after rnd 1 lockout imo.
The temptation to copy is great for many. So many same same teams in league play.
I hear ya but people love it!
Personally I'm never in copy-cat leagues but I understand the fear that inexperienced people will copy…
Hopefully my team's a bit different and it goes ok
True dat GNR, some people who are timepoor and have no time to research will just copy one of the experienced guy's teams, but ultimately, it's how and who you trade and when you trade that makes or breaks your season.
What cash do you have left over Lekdog???
$6,300 :/
Not a believer in the Sandi rainy day fund btl and I thought I was a tight arse when it came to starting bank balances ha ha.
More seriously you are going to be ultra limited making rookie corrections in the first couple of rounds and you can forget about jumping on some of the more expensive rookies like Taranto or Marchbank should they take off.
So it may be worthwhile downgrading say a Pendles to a Treloar or another $600K mid to at least build that bank up to around the $50K mark to have some sort of wriggle room for early corrections. Also going Preuss to Strnadica as you mention is likely will help out a little too.
I very rarely leave any cash in the bank, there's a few places where I might be able to save a little coin but honestly I have no intention of grabbing the $200K rookies even if they go nuts the first two weeks so correctives shouldn't be too difficult
A good looking team Lek! I like it other than JJK and Higgins. JJK just is too inconsistent for me, and Higgins well you have the graph there. Shouldn't his average remain low? Even if he does well, he's getting long in the tooth and fragile bones
Higgins my only concern but I liked what I saw during the preseason (blame Patch). JJK might be inconsistent but long term he'll be the second highest scoring forward and I'm all about long term
#sorrynotsorry
Love the JJK selection Lek, been toying with him all preseason, especially after seeing how good eagles have looked so far. I've actually selected Lloyd in my real dream team but he hasn't made the cut in my supercoach, think he will be in for a solid year though mate, hope your D4 structure pays off and your two mid rookies don't burn ya! Some nice pods mixed with safe premos should see you do well again, I wish you all the luck in the world my friend.
Thanks mate, really appreciate you taking the time to comment. JJK might be up and down but he'll score a hell of a lot of points overall!
If my two rookie mids strategy doesn't work, oh well I'll have to burn a couple of trades.
Lek I was shocked when I saw ur team very similiar to mine…..I play you in the shark tank (sir throtts-a-lot)…now I'm rethinking ……pods.don't want it to look like I copied…..hate that.
Haha mate I believe ya, doesn't matter how our teams start out they are going to finish wildly differently. Back your independent selections
True lol
Ballsy team LekDog. Don't think I'd sleep to well but no guts no glory.
Your views on picks is appreciated.
If your planning to trade up Sandi early, I'm buggered if I can work out 15 keepers? Please elaborate.
I count 4 defenders, 6 mids, 1 ruck (Nank as a future FWD) and 4 forwards as the 15 potential keepers in a best case scenario.
You are not starting Roughie, Higgins, Lloyd and Beams if you don't expect them to be keepers. Some of those guys may not survive the entire season but that would at least be the hope, otherwise I wouldn't bother picking them if you are just expecting them to be mere stepping stones only.
For to be decent stepping stone material a player typically needs to generate at least $150K, and if any of those guys increased by $150k they would almost certainly be a top player in their position and therefore would not need to be upgraded.
If all goes well (which it won't) I keep Shaw, Simmo, Laird, Lloyd, Danger, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Nank (in forward line), JJK, Dahl, Higgins (unlikely) and Roughead. Maybe it's more like 14 keepers if you account for Higgins burning me
Great team and explanations for your choices Lek, I agree with you in defence going heavy and those 4 rookie choices. Mids and defence are safest options to lock away players straight up! good work.
Cheers GNR, love your work
hello everyone. cant decide on midprice mayhem options!
DEF: thurlow or marchbank down back and why?
MIDS: JOM or swallow? and why…
thanks in advance
Marchbank will be a key cog in the Blues defence, will be given benefit of doubt and should average close to 80. Don't think we can say the same for Thurlow.
Jom will outscore Swallow but won't play every game.
Holy poppin-pantlegs Lek!
Rockin MPM to the extreme.
No doubt plenty will roll three of Beams, Sandi and Crevice but gates have been flung wide open here and the ponies are in the wind.
I think Lloyd is a reasonably safe option for the money and will push top 12 defender.
Roughy has many divided, not sold on him being an F8, expensive stepping stone perhaps.
Oh man, Higgins! No!
I had him in a version for nearly 20 hours, ended up sharting in my party dress and took it as a sign. Yanked him straight out.
Big plums, big pantleg, big reward.
Kudos and prayers.
Haha I knew Higgins would be the sticking point for most, maybe I'm just trolling.
Roughy is tough, maybe he can become a F9 floater at worst?
If Higgins can stay on the park I think he has a strong chance of finishing a top 8 forward. Looks in ripping nick right now and appears to have a juicy SC role this season so here's hoping.
I like Trolls.
Especially the pretty ones with pink hair.
The wasteland that is the mid rookie pool will cause great gnashing of teeth come next Thursday.
I suspect you will be the victim of troll counter attack Lek and Higgins ownership will reach 40% by lockout.
Now I want to see you whack the C on him 🙂
Hannebery and butler
Or
McCarthy and Macrae (already have Taranto)
Cheers community !!
#Nankilands is a risk. Good on you Lek for wearing it and moving on. Maybe Preuss at R3 and Cameron fwd (if both play) gives you just that little bit of flexibility if everything goes upside down early.
No obvious non playing captain loophole player
Yeah that's what I'm banking on, no captain option at this stage is an issue but we'll see how R1 looks
Hanners and Butler
Nice team Lekdog and great to see someone else running with Higgins!
#Nankilands certainly opens up a lot of options. I'm running with it with Witts at R3 as cover.
Hopefully I won't be making too many more changes to my team. Right now it's:
Doc, Shaw, Laird, Hampton, Ottens, Stewart (EVW, Long)
Danger, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, TMitch, MCrouch, Beams, SPP (Hibberd, Miles, Pickett)
Nankilands (Witt)
NRoo, Dollhouse, Higgins, Tarranto, Turner, Eddy (Cameron, Houston)
I've gone large in the midfield and am hoping that I'll have 14 keepers from my starting line up.
Thoughts?
Hey LekDog, curious about your Roughie "F8" comment, do you see him as eventual bench cover rather than a stepping stone to cull around the byes? No criticism, genuinely interested to know if others plan ahead for reliable late season bench cover as it's always been an oversight of mine.
It got me confused as well and then he mentioned F9 an hour ago. Perhaps midfield number of spots confusion? Perhaps someone more learned than me can help out / correct.
And yes, I normally aim for Mid/def premo and a mid/fwd premo with a total of 24 premo players….though I often finish with no trades left with a number, 4-6ish, of rounds to go.
Interested to know what others aim for as well.
Hi Andos and Random. I think that Roughy will push for an F6 position. I see him as a keeper rather than a stepping stone however if he ends up averaging say 85 I may sit him on the bench at F7 for the final few weeks, you were right about the wrong position numbers.
No captaincy loophole player Lek? Or u think hibberd or Cameron don't get named and take it from there?
I'm sure Lek will engineer an appropriate loophole once the team sheets drop next week.
By my guesstimation a loop is worth about 20pts per round on average or about 400pts a season so it's a necessary tool for all serious Supercoaches.
To your point on JJK Lek, his erratic scoring still matters if youre playing for rank because he can be picked up on the cheap after a couple of his stinkers, which is why I'm not starting him.
Like many I have an aversion to risk in the rucks but Christ this year is giving me a headache.. mainly Jake Bloody Spencer. #Nankilands might be the way to go as there is minimal risk, worst case for Nankervis is that he hangs around as bench cover in our finished teams. You might have solved the ruck riddle a month early!
Yeha I think his DPP is what makes him a potential keeper even if it's on the bench.
In response to JJK, I'm assuming in the same vein I'll be able to pick up Roo, Buddy etc. when they are cheap. It all balances out
No one keen on R. Gray this year…. I've got him locked in my team and just can't move him, not owned by a lot of teams. #POD
Will be looking at him seriously post bye.
His injury-interrupted pre-season is a worry. Will look at him after his bye.
Rd9 bye hurts him
Was in my team for a long time but the bye is a deal breaker
Mate everyone is bringing him in after his bye, hopefully at a significant discount.
yeah…. just like everyone's got the same structure, same plans and same players targeted after the byes. #LOL
Port are going to have another woeful season I reckon. Can't keep a gun like Robbie Gray down but it won't help much.
Jack Bowes thoughts on him community ?
Hasn't shown enough to justify his price tag for mine
Price and job security a concern. Better options at a cheaper price for mine.
Never actually put my team up since joining the community last year, but don't be gentle fellas!
DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird
Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (EVW, Stewart)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Treloar
Fyfe, Titch, Beams, SPP (Barrett, Hibberd, Miles)
RUCK: Nankilands (Sterndick)
FWD: Dahl, Maccrae, Rough
Taranto, Pickett, Parfitt (Houston, Eddy)
95k left in the war chest. It's bloody cookie-cutter and I'm going to have to trade carefully to avoid some bye-round carnage, but barring rookies I can see myself going in with this. Possibly downgrade a couple players like Beams > JOM, Marchbank or Taranto to cheaper rooks to turn Nank into Gawn but that depends on Spencer's Selection Status. I also wouldn't mind turning Maccrae > Rooey
Looks pretty solid, Lt. I'd sit on that cash mate, the scoring power of your two onfield rookies doesn't excite me, if any of the more expensive forward rooks start strong you can jump on with only 1 trade
I like Macrae up to Roo but not sure how that impacts bye preperation/if it does
STK and WBD both share a rd 11 bye
Cheers mates, I've snuck Parfitt and Pickett to M10 and M11 and put Turner and Florent at F5 and F6. Leaves me with 3k but I'm considering turning Pendles into a Rd12 bye mid (jelwood/priddis etc) to help bye structures and free up a little cash. Under a week away from Rd1 and I'm still trading like a madman
Risky forwards
Just saw you put Turner and Florent to F5/F6 seems wise.
Why no Titch or JOM
Who would you take out of the midfield, Leg? Neither are keepers in my eyes, or must have selections
Titch not a keeper for you Kev … seriously??
Could definitely be a top 10 mid this season now playing for a coach that doesn't actively despise him! 😉
Titch almost made the cut but is an early upgrade target, he isn't better than any of my current mids. JOM I have no interest in, will be rested.
Concerned Titch won't drop much if at all? I see him averaging far more than last year and appreciating significantly. The bargain price is also the starting price for him.
WHE or McCarthy at F5?
If a cheaper rookie is named I will put in a cheaper rookie
Probably would go WHE although not sure I'd invest $200K in either especially if you don't also already have Taranto.
Would it be too much picking Docherty, Simpson, Marchbank (Blues) and Otten, Laird, Hampton (Crows) as my starting backline???
Potentially but it depends how the rest of your team looks
Lekdog mate your teams looking not to bad mate would like to see some more st kilda players in there young man such as jack steven, n riewoldt, armitage, dempster
Roo was in there for most of the preseason, will be my first midfield upgrade
i love you lekdog, absolute gold.
no marchbank or thurlow in your defense? did they ever come into your side
Marchbank was in there for a moment, just think the rookies we already have in defence are good enough. If Marchbank was a fwd/def he'd have made the cut.
Significant news community. Jack Viney on SEN this morning was asked about Gawn & Spencer: his response "I expect them both the play". Activate your contingency plan
I just bloody slotted Maxy back in last night….aaarrh.
significant.
If Spenser is named, this will turn people away from Gawn in droves.
For those who stick with Gawn and it turns out not to affect his score, happy days.
My thoughts are the death of the Third man up will significantly increase Gawn's score this year. the reduction in the interchange will mean that he rests in the forward line and kicks a few goals.
I might stick with Gawn even if Spenser is named. Will make Gawn a POD.
Spenser might affect him, we don't really know. Spenser might be gone in two rounds.
It's bloody tempting to change tack and bank some cash but at the moment I'm sticking with the two rucks that i first put in place all those weeks ago.
Gawn and Grundy.
Both I see as keepers and both will be top three in their position I hope. Regardless of the rule changes.
There are very few players capable of knocking out those real monster scores and I just can't go in Gawnless.
Grundy is still only 22yrs old so I'm expecting an improvement on last years scoring.
I'll be spewing if the Nankilands gamble pays off I know…
That's ballsy stuff Ranger. Don't see that many set and forget ruck builds anymore after #Nankilands performed so well in the JLT and now combined with the "Spenser for Hire'' phenomenon.
Can't say it's not worrying me SC but I'm trying to keep to my structures and lessons learned from previous years.
You cant keep him if spencer plays. I know some might think he'll go fwd more, one out rucks hell score more. but we didnt need to see the practice matches to know that wont work! Goldy with daw in the side late last yr stuffed his scoring same happened with martin. Spencer may not hang around long maybe later!!!
Agree Shake. Assuming Spencer lines up then paying 645K for a great unknown seems somewhat irresponsible. I think like the forward line it might be best to go cheap until things work themselves out. I also can't see great cash generation coming from the rookies
Yeah it's the cash generation side of the equation that worries me most Pieman but I don't regard Gawn as an unknown.
The great unknown is the impact Spencer will have on Gawn's scoring. We know what Max is capable of Lone Wolf
Aren't we supposed to ignore what the uber premiums do in the practice matches tho SnB?
I dunno mate, it's worrying me to stick fat but it worries me even more to go in with an injury prone 34yr old and a bloke that couldn't get a run at it in Sydney and has only played 11 games of AFL level football.
Good point Ranger. I think I prefer Nank in the forward line as cover. People going with Nankilands without cover defies logic
If I was going to forgo the set and forget strategy I think I'd just go all in and put Witts and Nank in there.
At least then I could hugely bolster other lines and try and regard the rucks as slow burn rookies.
Yuk.
Can't believe I'm even thinking of that as an option…
If I look at Sandiwitts it does allows Taranto at F6, which is where I like him. The other Fwd rooks are rubbish
Taranto batting a M6??
I said we didn't need to see the practice matches to know hes scores will be effected. Im goin with what l have seen happen to every ruck combo in the home & away season! All the practice matches told me is if spencer plays l wont pick Gawn same with Daw Preuss & Goldy Archie & Martin. Id just rather use that coin elsewhere. I had Gawn one of my 1st picked when l 1st put my team together, but not happening if spencer gets a gig.
I get it. Just not sure I agree that Gawn will be as affected as the other examples you've given.
The coin elsewhere is bloody tempting tho.
Ah well, plenty of time to change my team another 43 times.
Could someone please explain to me the captaincy loophole? I hear a lot about it but i'm not sure exactly what it is.
Basically u start a non playing rookie who has his team not playing on a friday and you sub him on for the friday night and put the captaincy on him. You sub off your back up captain and put the emergency on him
You put the vc on someone who is playing on a Friday night lets say a Dangerfield, if he scores 120 or above you keep the vc on him. He will get double points as your non playing is automatically subbed off due to the emergency on ur bench
You receive both scores except the vc is doubled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmtFrXPaN0
thanks guys!
I don't mind your team Lek. Can't recall seeing another as close to guns & rookies as this. My main concern is 2 onfield rookies in the midfield & forward line. If you can get away with that & cover Nankilands you'll be in great shape
I'm not as concerned about onfield rookies but everyone has brought it up so maybe I should be worried haha
Lekdog or anyone
please give some insight
Adams, laird, tuohy, z jones, hampton, v ellis, stewart
Danger, hanners, priddis, fyfe, beams, jom, pp, pickett
Wigg, miles, hibberd
Grundy, sandi, cameron
Roo, dahl, lynch, rough, nank, taranto, butler, eddy
Good side, Adam. Jones a preseason flyer I reckon. So many ahead of him for TMitch's midfield spot
I love your team lekdogger please put jack viney in there he is a gun
He was considered but isn't better than any of my premo mids. Will watch him closely
Go there Legdog, interesting,
Whats your thought's on Jack martin and Cale Hooker this season, both have DPP, could run one in def and one in fwd line
Just a thought, haven't looked to far intocheers
Hooker has been injured so that's a no and Martin didn't look great in the JLT Series
Cheers bud 🙂
I had Martin in before pre-season and i thought he looked really good but id didn't equate to sc points, so don't pick him but good signs for the suns.
As a Hawks fan, please pick someone else other than Miles.
Very Unlikely Miles will play, and if he does get named this week, he might find himself gone round 2 when Hodge is back. don't get sucked in.
Seeing Higgins name getting thrown around abit now appearing ina few team was mentioned im the podcast couple of weeks back. Ive had him in my side since day dot. Just needs to stay healthy is only concern. Senior figure there now will play on the ball and will kick you goals. I say will be a top 8 fwd come seasons end. Rd 12 bye.
I like the nankilands combo, but think you need to have nank in the fwds. Think about it – a premium ruck like gawn is going to score more than ANY fwd. I've gone super light in the fwds with roughhead and nank as F2 and F3
Without putting words in his mouth I'm sure that's Lek's plan Jess.
Nank is just sitting there temporarily in the RUCK line and will either be upgraded if he doesn't work out, or will be eventually moved into the FWD line via a DPP trade to bring in an ultra premo ruck when the time is right.
Each to their own i guess. Rucks are hard to trust this year. Can see Nank being a top 10 fwd with #1 ruck (at least for a while), but he wont be close to a top ruckman. Lek just doesnt currently have a fwd/ruck swing option for nank, which would have me concerned. To maximise points (if only for a while), eliminate unnecessary team changes, and win this thing, its more practable to start him up forward
Fwiw I also have Nank in my FWD line atm like you suggest but there are many ways to go about this game which is what makes it so great. Who comes out on top … well that's why we play. 🙂
I agree Jess, but Lek can move Nank into the forward line later and upgrade one of his forwards to a ruckman. This can be done by trading say someone like a SPP to a rookie then upgrading an eddy after they both reach their maximum to a fallen premo in Gawn you just move the Nank into the forward line after you hit the trade button on Eddy.