PODCAST: Supercoach 2017 Crunch Time

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..time for us all to kick into 100% full time Supercoach research mode. Time for all other facets of life to take a back seat, including relationships, work and/or commitments and personal hygiene 
We are now just a week or so away from the beginning of the 2017 AFL Supercoach season community
What are the traps? Who should be considered genuine contenders in this period of extreme excitement?


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Wowza!! I am more excited than Santa on boxing day


Talk to me Jock, feed me the wisdoms!


Jock and fellas – talk to me about the no 3rd man up rule. Does this mean that the Premo rucks Gawn and Goldy will kick absolute butt this year and finish #1&2 in the whole shebang??? Has the scoring system been adjusted for this fact?? Should we load up on the Rucks???


Get around the mag kangasnm! It's all explained in a huge amount of detail there


Somebody has missed pre season training….


Not sold on Steele, the rest are popular so won't hurt you as much if they go down I guess. Can someone remind me when Sunday team benches get finalised? Late Friday, early Friday, Saturday morning??? Completely forgotten.


Friday evening. Around 5.30 – 6.00pm


Vic time.


It's doesn't leave a lot of time to react. I recommend having a few structures in advance


And Melbourne play Saturday so Spencergate will be revealed before the first bounce of round 1. Gives you time to go Nakilands if that's your preference


Or just bang Max in..


6:25pm is when it's released


6.20 vic time gives you just over an hour to make changes but the site will be crashing around then as it does every year, it will create havoc.
Best to set yr team up the way you think well in advance then join the endless Q trying to get on the site if it goes pear shaped.
Have fun.


Thoughts lads?

DEF: Doc, Shaw, Laird, Hampton, EVW, Stewart (Long and Otten)
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, SPP (Barrett, Hibberd and Parfitt)
RUC: Gawn and Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: Roo, Dahl, Roughy, Taranto, Bowes, Eddy (Black and Pickett)



The rookies will change depending on round 1 teams.


hey guys any leagues i can join??


Try these


cheers mate


Jock Straps (185600)

Big fact hunt

G'day jel I have just joined if that's ok


Welcome aboard, hope you hunt down some big facts!!


Still room? I'm keen


I’ve just joined. Hope that’s ok JEL


and these


Hi there I have just joined all 3.


Hey Beastiano I’ve just joined 370916. Hope that’s ok


Anyone welcome to join




200270 The supreme league


Would love to get some thoughts on this structure. Pretty close to locking this in, not sold on Steele though.

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Vickers-Willis (Stewart, Otten)

MID: Dangerfield, Kennedy, Treloar, Fyfe, T. Mitchell, Beams, Taranto, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt)

RUCK: Grundy, Sandilands (Strnadica)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Lynch, Gunston, Steele, Turner, Pickett (Miles, Eddy)


Steele has trap written all over him imo. Dump him, shift Taranto forward and grab another mid

Beady Eye

Go with your gut but keep 20K up your sleeve – easy swap to Roughy if Steele spuds it up.


Watch out for Gunston. Not sure if playing more wing time will help his SC output. I suspect not.


Cheers Marco. As a Hawks supporter I did notice him getting up the ground quite a bit last year and he seemed to still score pretty well. I do have some cap space left so he might become Macrae or Buddy before Round 1.


Community big questions for ya… Got Number 2 Pick in my draft. Considering Danger is gone. Whos next? Was thinking Gawn but with Spencer I have gotten cold feet. Who is the next pick? Treloar? J Selwood?




JPK, Hanners, Treloar, or Fyfe if you're feeling lucky

Bells E Bubb

JPK or Fyfe if it were me.

Bulls On Parade

DEFINITELY FYFE! What short memories everyone has…

Normally GnR



Does the league have the captain option?


What are the community's thoughts on Scott Lycett? Im just about sold on #Nankilands and currently have Lycett and Cameron in for cover.
Surely with no Nic Nat it means Scotty will have the lion share of the ruck load and improve on his average.


Lycett's injured atm, dislocated shoulder on the weekend…


Apologies. That's because he was in my team


Jonathon Giles.


Conundrums No.1
Caddy (F2) & Florent (F6) or
Buddy & Miles/Pickett?
Macrae & Miles/Pickett?


Florent probably hasn't locked down a spot in Sydney's midfield. Buddy and Miles


Thanks Kev. Agreed on Florent though he could go ok if he keeps his spot. Buddy at F2 does have the higher cieling, and should put-score Caddy, but Macrae tempting still.

Normally GnR

Buddy / Pickett


anyone considering marchbank and thurlow??
im thinking docherty, shaw, thurlow, marchbank, hampton, EVW


got them both atm. i can see them avering high 70s low 80s generating enough cash to make them good stepping stones.


What are people's thoughts on Buddy this year? Haven't seen him in many teams and chat has been minimal, and I understand why he can be a nightmare, but does anyone think he's more relevant this year given the limited supply of proven forward options?


He's definitely relevant, Sana. But he can be up and down and almost always drops below the $450K mark at some point mid-season. You can definitely start with him, but you can probably get him at a discount later on.


After a bit of a reshuffle, Buddy is in my starting team at F2. Looks in form with a good pre-season. Can see some big scores brewing. Low % ownership too.


Both valid points, something to consider, thanks guys




I think so Sana.

Only reason i don't have him is because of his bye. Same bye as the Doggies. So only want one of him, Dahlhaus or Macrae in my team. Will definitely keep an eye on him later in the season for an upgrade target. But, yeah no dramas picking him.


Would appreciate your thoughts Supercoach community!

Def: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart (EVW, Otten)

Mid: Dangerfield, Fyfe, JPK, Treloar, Priddis, Beams, O'Meara, SPP (Barrett, Miles, Parfitt)

Rucks: Nankervis, Sandilands (Cameron)

Fwd: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Steele, Taranto, Hoskin-Elliott (Pickett, Eddy)




Was thinking the same BUT needed the community to help me out a little here!
Please explain?


I'm still not sold on the Nankilands R1&2 set up. Can you look at downgrading a mid & Hoskin to a Strnadica (swap with Cameron), move Nank to F4 & look at a stronger R1 – maybe Grundy or Hickey?


Very very risky I know! But this is one risk I am willing to take. I think Nankervis will be the sole ruckman at Richmond & I only need Sandilands for about 9 weeks..


Nice team.

Every team has some risk. I think the Rucks are a good place gamble.

Each of the risky picks are ones I've considered going with. Our teams are totally different but I can't fault yours.


very nice team – I have almost the same. Risk – who cares – go with your gut. I like the Nankilands combo, it makes sense to me.


Docerty or Shaw???

SC Guru

Shaw IMO


im wary of shaw. late last year teams began to tag him and man him up and he couldn't control the half backline freely. worried this may happen again this season. scored well in JLT but we all know that doesn't mean much. docherty for me plenty of the pill down back for carlton this year


Both guns. both going to pump out big scores all year. Heater rolled out a big arse 203 last year but only scored over 100 on 12 occasions. Docherty high score of 147 last year, but scored 16 tonnes. Docherty younger man, perhaps still has a fair bit of improvement left in him? But Shaw has averaged over 110 in 2015. Tough call to split them, I'm personally entertaining the option of fielding both!


got both


Probably Shaw, but can't go wrong with either


Got both!






Thoughts on Higgins?


He's a trap!


Of course he scores so well PPM during the preseason… does everything to tempt us, only to shoot us down time after time. But that was the past! This year, he is a huge ballsy POD!


Should do well imo. Seems to be running through the midfield


had him in 2015 and was a fantastic POD. last year was very good till he got that injury! im rolling with him again The_Black_Mamba i think he is looking fit and more midfield minutes at north now


Im running with Higgins. No boomer Harvey he almost replaces him if he can stay fit


realistically he can recapture his 2015 form and average over 90, but durability is the downside.


I would not touch him with a 20 foot barge pole. Welcome


Doesn't get Contested possessions. Has no plums what so ever


Irrelevant, the podcasts are coming out frequently so he won't average as well


I'm going with Higgins as he's looking to have more midfield time now the older guys are gone. His form in the JLT looked good and he seems fit. Treat Higgo like Wells last year. Keep him if fit if not he'll make money and allow you to use him as a stepping stone. I think he'll remain fit and have a good year

Bulls On Parade

I'm 100% in agreeance and im keeping my mouth shut. With the availability of information these days to all players, any kind of secret POD that will be a BOOM is like a nugget of raw gold!


Taranto or McCarthy? Can't decide I think Taranto will average more but has less JS and McCarthy has more so not sure who to pick


Mccarthy will play 20+ games. taranto possibly only till deledio is back and coniglio. unless he really sets the world on fire. mcarthy for me but thats just my opinion.


With Lids and Coniglio out for a while his js has improved. Didn't put a foot wrong preseason


Taranto for mine. Will probably score better.


Is having both too risky…?


I really hope not for my sake! ;O)


Thoughts everyone??

Def: docherty, Adams, laird, marchbank, Hampton, Stewart (EVE, Guthrie)
Mid: danger, JPK, treloar, priddis, Fyfe, beams, o'meara, SPP (Barrett, wigg, Hibberd)
Ruck: grundy, sandi (strnadica)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, caddy, roughy, nank, Taranto, Pickett (Newman, eddy)


I like the team (except the forward line).

I understand the backup ruck, but just don't like it. The backup ruck theory only really works if a ruckman is out for 1-2 weeks, and you then save a trade, but carry some $$ on the bench.

I think your better of selecting any 2 of the 3 rucks you like, putting Cameron at R3 for cover, and picking a forward/mid for the fwd position.


Yeah solid team mate, could make suggestions but the team is probably as good as it gets, will have to see what round 1 brings

Michael Scofield

not very good. Nankervis what a joke. Jock Reynolds is a myth, he came 60,000 rank last year lol, I can 17th


Neat all-round line-up. I like Caddy, Marchbank, new roles at fresh clubs. Priddis has been locked in as my mid POD for ages too. Question on Grundy @ R1, perhaps switch Nank to ruck & get another fwd premo.


Caddy is severely over rated. I would be very wary about picking him, is he gonna be a top 8 FWD? Its a no from me.


Hey guys any thoughts or ideas would be great.
Still with $150k for top up.

Doc, shaw, mc/tippa, Murphy, Hampton,Watson (hibbard,eve

Dang,pend,prids,Fyfe,beams, jom,Barrett,pickett (spp,wigg,parfitt)

Goldy,Nanks. (Strats)

Kennedy, dals,caddy,Steele,miles,eddy. (Black,Cameron.)


Good team mate! Some good POD's. Murphy has been in and out of my team several times. Out at the moment, but who knows?

Hopefully enough quality rookies are named to allow for 5 in the guts, but I have my doubts.


Agree with Hutto.
Watch team selections carefully. Wouldn't want you to start the season with a few 0s onfield.
Specifically Watson (Nth or WC ??) Barret and Miles may not play and neither may your def and fwd benches.


Mills, Swallow, Sandi, Roughy & Nank – 3 fallen premos & 2 hopefulls.
Am I expecting too much from these guys?


I prefer Jones and O'Meara over Mills and Swallow, but the rookie stocks are down, so no, I don't think your expectations are unreasonable. Good luck mate. Can't wait!

I've got 6 spread across my on field team that could be considered risky. Happy to roll the dice!


I've got more faith in Swallow, but JOM looks bigger risk with bigger reward.

Good luck, hope they all hold together!!


What About ZAC Dawson?


For our SC teams or the Brownlow?


It's Dac Zawson & he's on here

Dac Zawson

I'm here community
To be fair I reckon I'm a lock in both SuperCoach and Coach Kings plus a fairly solid multi bet to finish top 20 in the Brownlow and top 3 in freo's BnF
But that's just me


If there was a wooden spoon in freo's best and fairest I'd bet on Zac to take it out!


He wouldn't even pick himself in his own team


Thoughts on risk it for the biscuit v.103

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Vicker-Wlillis (Newman, Stewart)

MID: Danger, JPK, Trealor, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP (Barrett, Wigg, Miles)

Ruck: Grundy, Sandi (Strndica)

Forward: Dals, Macrae, Roughy, Nank, Taranto, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)


Look up and read the comments on most other teams. There lies your answer.


I don't think they read your team mate. Howe. Grundy.macrae. great picks bud. Jock has crouch. The JPK comment has been made below.


I think two JPKs is the a good way to go NANK. Might I also suggest fielding Danger twice.


Funny Bobby 🙂
I am fielding two Hadyn Ballantynes.
It's more a long term strategy but once it pays off everyone will wish they had done the same.


Do I need roughy




Where do I find the ownership% of each player?


if you have the gold trial go the the players selection and look for coaches choice on the left

Bulls On Parade



Thoughts please
Def: Boyd, Montagna, Vlaustin, McGrath, Jaksch, Hampton (EVW, Hibbered)
Mid:Gaz, Neale, Zorko, Gibbs, Zaharakis, Hill, Ah Chee, Hrovat ( Rookies)
Ruck: Mumford, Kreuser (Eagles)
Fwd: Waite, Betts, Poppy, WHE, Knight, Bowes, (Black, Shoeakers)


Certainly an odd team? would probably just re do it haha a whole team of PODs is asking for carnage


Its one of the best teams I have seen , we have a spot in our money league if you would like it…

Bulls On Parade

Me too.

Big Daz

Boyd and Montagna are a huge risk.Waite is a strange one, too.


Probably do better than some of the cookie cutters round here haha


I thought Kreuzer played for the Blues women's team?

Canny the Manny

Are we worried about Pendles' achilles? Didn't play the last JLT game and didn't get through training either… I haven't started without him for the last 4 years.


It was a similar last year, for me I just don't have the extra 40k if I want him so I'm settling for Trealor, who in my eyes will score higher
But can't go wrong with Pendles in my book


Mate just lock him in, dont even question it, cant see any downside at all of picking him


I am worried, I just can't see my team without him starting


What about Jobe Watson more determined to prove everyone wrong? Might take a few weeks but will gather steam??


he's interesting isn't he!? should I shouldn't I? price was the factor I went not yet.

Bulls On Parade

Only if he wears his FEMINIST flat rim cap all year will his power be fully restored…


Im confused were they saying zorko a bad POD compared to Bont or a good one?


bad i think


they think that zorko will do better than bont, even though bont has a much higher selection rate. they gave an example of a POD that they think will actually be better than a mainstream selection


Spot on, Tem


Guys, what's Jake Barrett's status at Brisbane? I was reading through a previous thread and came across a post by Clock Management saying that he needs to be elevated but that the Lions list is already full. Is this still the case and if so, why is he still such a popular selection?


I think there is room as Alan Christensen has recently broken his collarbone


There was a comment on the same thread saying Christensen only out for 6 weeks so not on LTI list meaning they won't be able to upgrade a replacement…. Again, dunno if this is accurate. Its in the comments for the review of the Brisbane v Adelaide game….

Bulls On Parade

Good question.

Dick Richard

Best 3 premo defenders: Shaw, Laird, Docherty, Simpson, Howe, Adams, JJ etc????




lloyd straight in, with shaw and otten first 3 picked. Johnson from freo, bob murphy, and then i'm still thinking


Imo Shaw, Laird & Simpson…..I like Howe as a P.O.D


Thoughts on the team, thanks community! Ripping POD as always lads!

BACK: Doc,Shaw,Laird,Hampton,Vwillis,Stewart
MID: danger, fyfe, pendles, treloar, beams, JOM, Pepperpig, Barret
RUCK: goldy, Gawn
FWD: dahl, Macrae, T.miller, Roughead, tarranto, Black

So many ifs and buts being thrown around this year with the rucks and backliners etc, recently decided to just go gawn and goldy as i firmly believe they will be R1 and R2…. is the NANK and Sandy to good to ignore? just felt like i was sticking mid pricers in left right and centre with thoes two in as i previously used to have Swallow, JOM roughy, nank sandi, beams in the side, i like the value they offer just something about jumping on loads of mid pricers everywhere just doesnt seem right
Thanks all


I just remember Patch's article on Mid proceed. He did say that 2 or 3 is ok 😉

I think the best 3 are Sandi, Beams and Roughie. All fallen premiums.

Stay away from the young breakouts


I agree Derek, but going sandi leads you into needing cover and there's another mid pricer added on!
All the mid pricer picks have looked so good in jlt making it hard to not get sucked in


Thurlow v Marchbank? Leaning towards Thurlow because of his ability to play half back


Im going with march, he has proven his talent and the ball will spend plenty of time in blues backline


Thurlow, like you said Marchbank is a KPP so he might not do as well


Am i the only person who thinks Tuohy is overhyped and sorta similar to Lumumba's preseason form when everyone was all over him. I think he's scores could be very matchup dependent with teams with an elite small forward, Tuohy could potentially play a lock down role similar to Carlton.
Before his knee, Thurlow was always Geelong's Enright replacement and they rate him very highly and Mackie can still play a half back role if needed.


If you considered before the pre season games, by all means pick him but if he wasn't considered before 2 good sc scoring games, i think your falling in to the pre season hype trap


Tuohy is a dud spud waiting to sit like a bunch of carbs on your hips weighing you down for the season. Cut him loose and feel better about shedding those stubborn keg adding spuds that sprout this time of year looking so yummy and delicious, that promise the world like the black and red variety spud from out Essendon farmland way of years past, such as the Stanton variety. most likely these types give off that beautiful tasting 110+ taste of success early only to smack you in the face with the same annoyingly loud crinkle that is the samboy packet in a cinema just as the movie starts making you wish you never purchased such a miserable, heavy, mood enducing, waste of money in the first place!


Check out his R50 stats, Lukas. If you weren't able to watch Geelong's games the writeups mention the Cats looked to Tuohy as the main avenue of defence.

Kicks often. High d.e%.


G'day community,

2 quick questions:

a) Will we be able to make any changes to our side AFTER the start of the Thursday night game in round 1 (obviously not Carl/Rich players)? Or is it LOCKED at the start of this game?


b) Are there any plans for SC to make changes to players positions midway through the season and introduce new DPP's?

Cheers legends – appreciate it.


A) Rolling "lock outs" apply in SC. As such, you can make changes to your team (players) prior to them playing throughout round 1. Thereafter, you can do the same, but are bound by 2 trades per round, with the exception of bye rounds where up to 3 trades are granted.

B) No. If so, all hell will break loose in the SC community. 😉

Bulls On Parade

Imagine if Gaz became available as a FORWARD after Round 7 or something… Pandemonium.


Yes and No


Jake Lloyd or zak jones? Is lloyd going to be running through the midfield of sydney?


Depends if you want value for money or pay top dollar. Zak Jones has already had some JLT time in the Sydney midfield. That is telling.
For me, Zak Jones at $307K is very, very appealing. Welcome!




Zak wouldn't be the first bloke to be trialled in a different position, tophawk! Go with Lloyd, Harry. You know his role, he knows his role. Happy days


Lets agree to disagree! Nothing wrong with that.


A: Yes it will be a rolling lockout
B: Unlikely. Only available in Afl fantasy




Steele or Caddy?


Tough call. The fact that you are comparing these two guys head to head, makes me lean towards Steele. At $347K he is a hell of a lot cheaper than Caddy at $488K. The Saints seem to be on the up whilst the poor old Tigers are set for another mediocre year. Steele has more upside $ wise and team wise. Welcome


Caddy, more likely to get midfield time than Steele and he did average around the 90 mark last year


Thoughts ???
DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Stewart, Guthrie)
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Hanners, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, Hibberd)
RUC: Nank, Sandi (Preuss)
FWD: Riewoldt, JJK, Dahlhaus, Roughy, Taranto, Butler (Eddy, Strnadica)

5k left which is a bit of a worry with the rookies changing for round 1


Nice team Winter.

Your backline appears to be "cash heavy" though. With all those up an coming defensive rookies on offer, you may be able use your backline as the "cash generation" engine room for your side in 2017. As there are limited sub 150K rookies on offer on the other lines, use the extra cash raised to invest in up and coming fallen/premos and mid pricers.

I don't like Nankervis at R1 either.

Good luck!


Cheers Tophawk, was thinking going midpricers in the rucks to see how the top rucks perform especially playing with r2's early. Will use the cash generation made in defence you were talking about to upgrade once the season starts and we get a good look


Looks very solid, Winter. You could get away with dropping one of NRoo or JJK down to Gunston/Buddy/Greene to free up a little bit more cash.

Wouldn't change much else though


Cheers Kev, pretty sold on N.Roo this year reckon he's gonna kill it. Thinking about dropping Pendles for Treloar but I'm like a die-hard Pies & Pendles fan and haven't started without him for the last like 5 years or something. So starting without Pendles just wouldn't feel right


would love some feedback fellas.
docherty Adams tuohy Hampton vw newman (Otten Stewart/Guthrie)
pendles selwood Zorko fyfe Dahlhaus beams O'meara swallow (SPP picket parfitt)
Gawn sandi (Cameron)
macrae Greene roughy Steele hoskin-Elliot Taranto (Houston eddy)


No need for Dahl in the mids when you've already got mid/fwd swing sets on your bench. Move him forward for Steele or WHE.

Get Danger in.


my thoughts regarding danger are that he's highly unlikely to keep the 700k+ price tag, so was going to maybe bring him in when he drops.
if I move Dahl to fwd I'm stuck with not much cash to get someone else in the mids


Are you after feedback so you can dismiss it out of hand or do you actually want to improve your team? Both were valid points.


I think he will too, Jaimie. Do you really want to hunt for value on a guy that can push out 140 on the reg? By the time he drops you've missed a lot of points


I completely understand your point, it's just a struggle to work out who to get rid of to get me the cash to bring Dangerfield in


Downgrade tuohy for marchbank, there's the cash to get danger in

Don't blush Baby

I see a lot of teams with Ed Vickers Wells, & Newman in the back line , I don't think they will play R1,might play in later games though , my thoughts only ?


And a lot of teams have Otten who might only be there if Lever is unavailable.


I've come up with the ultimate risky team and could talk myself into any one of these blokes either making a good amount of coin or far surpassing their value and putting up premo numbers.

Back: Touhy, Hartlett, Mills, K Kolo, Marchbank, Hampton (Hibberd, Vickers-Williams)
I can see Touhy taking the reins of that backfired and belting out 95 avg. Hartlett averaged 90+ for five years straight until a down year last year. Mills will get Heeneys midfield time and jump into the 90s. Kade Kolo everyone wanted him last year for $450K but he was crook all season, now he's eating to go. The rest will make bank.

Mids: Fyfe, M Crouch, K Jack, Beams, Murphy, Oliver, Jaeger, Swallow (Tarantino, Powell-Pepper, Barrett)
Fyfe is locked as a VC each week if not C. Crouch could push into that $600K territory, too good of a chance to pass up. Jack will be the main beneficiary of TMitch leaving, his mid time will go way up and he's a proven 100+ player. Beams no beainer. Murphy will never cop a tag with Gibbs and Crisps both being so damaging, so he should be back over 100 avg. Oliver the next beast and will have a break out year. Jagger ready to average 90+. Swallow 85+. All good stepping stones. Bench will make bank.

Rucks: Ryder, Sandi (Witts)
Ryder #1 ruck unlike Gawn, Goldy, Martin, Grundy. Sandi no beainer. Witt's will be making bank while strandica rots on everyone else's bench.

Fwd: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Wingard, Roughy, Nankervis, Steele (McCarthy, Eddy)
Dahl no brainer. Caddy should definitely finish top 10 forward. Wingard playing more mid and has averaged 100 multiple times in the past. Roughy will avg 90+ in his sleep. Nankervis #1 ruck and in form. Steele could bust bigtime but what if JLT was just a taste and he keeps up that relentless attack, he could average 90+ even with a slight drop off in form. Rookies making bank.

$30,900 remaining.
Sure these are risky picks, but at least I'm not risking my rookies being dropped and never seen again. If a dozen bust I'm cooked, oh well, was pretty unlikely to win the money anyway. But if only half a dozen bust I'll have a real shot to fix that early and get a headstart. By the time some new rookies present themselves Danger, Gawn, Docherty, Shaw etc etc will be cheaper and I can paint the fence.


I like it!! Risk is so good. No risk, no reward. Period. My risk/reward ratio is not quite in your league. But I love it!


I agree with the risk/reward thing to a certain extent, but this goes over the top. K Jack…. Really????


He's my least favourite in the team. The great men on this very podcast identified him as a left field option. I was thinking Gaff until then.
But Jack did avg 110 for two straight years until T Mitch showed up…….


Jack will play forward more this year also limited preseason


Back to gaff, he is a gun, I reckon 105 average


Love the balls of this team. I just hope when you are painting the fence you don't run out of paint just before the in laws come over for dinner.


Sorry if my comment sounded flippant. By way of clarification I think you have way to many mid pricers.
I see 2 or 3 keepers. Even if 3 or 4 of the other guys rip it up that is still 16 or 17 you will be looking to swap for premiums.
Tall ask. Good luck though.


It's a huge risk alright. Thinking I'll convince a newbie at the office to run this team and then 'help' them manage it haha. I have a relatively safe structure as well.


Yeah. My son has a team like that


Ever worry about running two? I remember that fella who was leading last year but then everyone worked out he had two teams on the go…


Steerevvvee. We only have 30 trades! You will run out. Might need to start with a couple more keepers to save the trades.

Hartlett will play a defenceive role on half back and will score 70's. Downgrade him to s rookie. Jack to Hanners/JPK/Parker

Wits to Strd. Waste of cash. Might as well spend that money on expensive forward rookie who can earn points.


Definitely see your point. See above, I'll probably handball this team. Have a muuuuch safer (more boring) team up my sleeve.
But jeez this one makes me excited for the SC season to start!


Good luck, you will need it


Wingard averaged 100 'multiple times'. Multiple being two. Love it.


What does the communtity think of my team is there any room for improvement

DEF: Docerty, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Vickers-Willis)

MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Treloar, Selwood , Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Pickett (Miles, Barrett, Hibberd)

RUCK: Grundy Sandilands (Cameroon)

FWD Dahlhaus, Macrae, Lynch( GC ), Roughhead, McCarthy, Butler ( Houston, Eddy)

$5,800 left over



The only thing I'd nitpick at is Lynch selection. That week that GC has the bye you still need to field a full side, so your essentially just giving a premo a weeks rest for absolutely no reason. He's going to take you for a ride also, KPP up and down like a yoyo. You could probably pick him up in round 10 for the same or possibly less $$.


Who will average higher omeara or Roughead can only pick one




O'Meara, he probably won't play as many games as Roughie though


Omeara likely to average more but roughy is a good chance of being a keeper in the forward line. Omeara your going have to upgrade at some point


Ive been having a hard time leaving Shaw and Docherty out of my side. They will be top 4 defenders come years end. Huge ceilings.





I think my first 3 fwds will end up being keepers and the other cash generators buy me time to see the emerging fwds that will be top at years end!


Really like this team. Defence rookies seem the safest bet so maybe downgrade Jones to someone like Vickers-Willis and use the cash to upgrade Steele to an ultra premo midfielder by switching Taranto up fwd. This reduces the mid-price risk and gives you one more keeper


Far from a GnR team GNR?


great team, I have a different setup, but also have 7 mid-prices


Logue wasn't mentioned in the podcast any news on him


Chuck some feedback my way, may have gone too me midpricers? Let me know your thoughts
DEF: Adams, Laird, Z.Jones, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Guthrie)
MID: Danger, Selwood, Treloar, Fyfe, Titch, Barlow, Beams, O'Meara (SPP, Wigg, Pickett)
RUCK: Nankilands (Preuss)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughy, Steele, Taranto, McCarthy (Parfitt, Eddy)


Like the Barlow pick


Not sure about Barlow. I'd downgrade/upgrade Jones and Marchbank to maybe a Vickers-Willis & Shaw. This reduces the amount of midpricers and gives you an extra keeper instead


Do it. Jones march equals spuds and tatoes.
Nothing to gain from that combo in anyway. Delete delete.. uninstall.


Can anyone convince me to pick Tom Hickey?


I can try .
Lone wolf ruck. Longer won't come into the team with all the tall forwards. Bruce will give him the occasional chop out.
See ball, get ball ruck. Plenty of disposals around clearances. Can't see any reason why he can't be the breakout ruck this year.

Having said that I have Gawn(if it ain't broke don't fix it) and Sandi (how cheap ?!)


Saints used third man up most of any team last year (around 21% I think), so Hickey will benefit most from this rule change. Along with Saints improved midfield should give him more HOA. Can go large, scored a 157 last year.


Nearly 30 touches as a ruckman is fairly impressive. Seems to be like a Stef prototype player


Starting without Ablett guilt kicking in.
Feels very unfamiliar and wrong.
Gonna go shower before bed.


OK. Rucks. Rucks.

At this stage contemplating a Sandi/Witts with Nank FWD and CAMERON as DPP on bench or Strnadica if CAMERON not named. Leaving $240k in bank for contingency cover.

I think Witts can do 80+ and I see as good onfield points scoring rookie option v reliability of other rookies. He will be solo ruck with 2mP providing chop out. Makes all other lines healthy, with Taranto and 1 other on field forward, SPP onfield in Mid and Hampton and another onfield rookie in defence.

Also requires Zack Jones D4, Oliver M7 and Steele F4. Or I run the gauntlet and use cash to upgrade one of these to a premium.

Any thoughts?


I'm currently sitting with the same ruck structure.

I'm with you re Witts. My thinking is he will average considerably more than similarly priced forward, and allows me to wait for a price drop on a Gawn or Goldy. In my case it allows me to fit Nick Riewoldt.

I like those 3 picks but can't fit any of them in.


Is M.Kennedy from Giants a JLT trap or a decent pick? The last rookie spreadsheet makes him a no brainer pick based off those stats. Ave 80-85 @ $230k. I liked that those stats were based off disposals and tackles, not kicking a few goals or something more flukey.

Awakward price for sure…..Thoughts???


I've been a big fan of Mills all pre season, but I'm starting to look at my team with Beams at M7 instead of Mills at D3 and I like it. Almost same price.

Classic case of Fallen premium vs young breakout mid price.

Sandi is my only other 'risk' player.

Lack of mid price rookies may force change.

The Ranger

No Fyfe then Derek? I count anyone coming back from an LTI as an additional risk no matter how good they are.
I've been back and forth with that D3 spot too and I just can't bring myself to go into a season with only two def keepers.

Shake n bake

Who will be your D3?

Shake n bake

Who is you D3 Derek?


Mills still there. Looking at getting a rookie at F4 instead of Roughie and keeping Mills.

Adams, Laird, Mills, Hampton, VickersW, Otten, (Stewart, Hibberd)

Danger, Fyfe, Hanners, Treloar, Selwood, TMitch, Beams, SPP (Barrett, Parfitt, Atley)

Gawn, Sandilands (Strd)

Dahlhaus, McCrae, Cyril, Simpkin, Pickett, Durdin (Eddy, Houston)

3 in field rookies in forward line, but at least all my Rookies should play next week

Is Beams too good value?

Seems like I can only have 2 out of Mills, Beams or Roughie?


I have a feeling Adams has been given def status as a trap.
Dodgy legs, dodgy ChampData.


Don't tell me that. I love my DPP premiums


Same but looks like they've been clipped this year, most of them are a bit mmph.
I'm thinking swing sets can be established a bit later when more rooks come out, as long as you have a few basics going (mid/fwd)/(ruck/fwd).


I'll go ADAMS to Shaw in a heartbeat


Beams no brainer for me Derek. I worry about mills, going to be a high ceiling for top 6 defender this year, he'll go well, but I'm thinking 90ish which won't be enough imo. Better off taking a chance up forward where 90-95 may be top 6. Just my opinion…..I do love mills though….

Relton Roberts