SuperCoach Significance Report: ADE v BRL

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Adelaide vs Brisbane is not usually one of the more anticipated fixtures of any given round.

However, with this being the final round of the Alphabet Community Series, this game was crucial to our Supercoach preparation. Going down at the spiritual home of football, Hickinbotham Oval, this game contains some answers to some questions we have.

How is Beams going to fare this year? Is Hampton our D4 saviour? What does Rhys Mathieson really think of himself?

The answer to that last question will have to wait, however, as Mathieson was one of the players cut from the final team. Clearly, he thinks the JLT is below him. There is an interesting sub-plot to this game as well. Stefan Martin, the forgotten ruck premium, is rucking solo today. Could he force his way into a few teams with a barnstorming performance?

The game was pretty high-scoring, with Brisbane sticking around for the first half, off the back of some good performances from Beams, Zorko and the rest of their experienced brigade. However, after half time Adelaide’s scoring power simply blew Brisbane away, and Adelaide ended up pretty comfortable winners, winning by 39 points. Brisbane, for their part, scored 103, which I imagine Chris Fagan wouldn’t be too disappointed with. However more importantly, this was the last hitout for both clubs, and we saw both teams playing pretty full-strength lineups. How did our potential picks look? Read on below to find out!


Missing: Brad Crouch, Scott Thompson, Jake Lever, Rory Sloane, Paul Seedsman, Kyle Cheney, Cam Ellis-Yolmen, Dean Gore

Out from final team: Riley Knight, Harrison Wigg, Myles Poholke

7. Jordan Gallucci – MID/FWD – $148,800

Did absolutely nothing to make me want to consider him for Round 1. Would be getting pretty desperate if we’re picking Gallucci, barely sighted him.

17. Curtly Hampton – DEF – $160,000

Got a lot of ball, however, needs to up his disposal efficiency a little bit. Attending centre bounces, which bodes well for his potential scoring output. A good pick for D4. Will blossom like a flower as he ensconces himself in that Adelaide 22. I have had Hampton since before JLT and hasn’t put a foot wrong, so think he is a great player to fill an on-field defensive post. 33% by foot is a concerning stat though.

20. Hugh Greenwood – MID/FWD – $117,300

Solid without being spectacular today. If he plays Round 1, good bench option. However, there is the risk that Adelaide rotate their rookies, leaving no one with really good job security. Such is the risk that this year presents. Will take a very talented coach to navigate 2017!

22. Andy Otten – DEF – $123,900

Could be a sneaky Round 1 option. Has put together a very solid JLT, scoring 98 and 80 from his first 2 games. Doing all the right things Supercoach wise. Not one I’m very confident about picking though, as will be competing for a spot with Lever, Cheney, Kelly, Cummins, Coulter-Nile and Shane Watson. Watch the team lists for more information.

24. Sam Jacobs – RUC – $472,000

Not relevant in today’s supercoach landscape unfortunately. An absolute serviceman for Adelaide, but not sure that he will ever return to the heights he reached a couple of years ago. Absolute hard-nut though, and may be an option to pick up in a draft league if you want a ruckman that will definitely be their club’s no.1.

29. Rory Laird – DEF – $526,800

To me, Laird is a must-have. Will run more through the midfield this year, and today was really good, collecting ball almost at will. Lock and throw the key down a well.

32. Troy Menzel – FWD – $183,900

Is a real talent. Showed flashes today, and I reckon he’s capable of churning out a couple of tons to really help that price tick along, unfortunately, he will throw in stinkers as well. Not for me personally, but Adelaide seem pretty confident that he can have an impact this year, so may be one to consider if you don’t like the look of Taranto.

33. Brodie Smith – DEF – $410,400

Not even going to discuss Brodie Smith’s game today. Please do not pick Brodie Smith. Brodie Smith has claimed the season of many a Supercoacher, and I write this as a cautionary message. If you pick Brodie Smith, you are essentially throwing away the 50k. Do not pick him. The Supercoach gods are watching, and they are merciless.


Missing: Allen Christensen, Josh Walker, Jack Frost, Josh Schache, Marco Paparone, Hugh McCluggage

Out from final team: Claye Beams, Rhys Mathieson, Archie Smith

9. Dayne Beams – MID – $432,500

I have seen the light community. For so long, I was adamant I would not pick Beams. After I heard how well he played last week, I reluctantly put him in my team, figuring he was easier to get out than in. After today, I am well and truly sold. The bloke knows how to accumulate like few others in the AFL. 18 possessions in the first half at 66%, and sat at 54 SC at HT. Played majority inside midfield, looking good. Doesn’t show any signs of breaking down, which is mainly what we wanted to see from Beams. Almost uber-lock territory.

12. Stefan Martin – RUC – $488,000

Stefan Martin’s fantasy output relies mainly on one person, and that isn’t himself. If Archie Smith plays, Martin looks second-rate at best. As we saw today, if Martin is a solo ruck, he looks behemoth-like in output. Alas, I cannot have faith in the Brisbane Lions in any capacity. Played a great game today. If McStay gets a game over Smith, then I would have a serious eye on Martin. Until then, it’s a hard no for me.

15. Dayne Zorko – MID – $593,000

Zorko is a good POD option for those who like to go a bit off the beaten track. Personally, I wouldn’t be touching him, but think that Zorko and Beams will overtake Rockliff as the main premium scorers out of Brisbane. They seem to be playing a different brand of football that Rockliff is struggling with a little bit. Zorko definitely one to consider.

20. Cedric Cox – DEF – $117,300

Jonathan Brown described him as a “defensive defender” pre-game. Played primarily on Eddie Betts, and I reckon there may be a role for him in that backline. May be a bench option for us in the backline as a slow-burner. Imagine he learnt a few things playing on Betts today, which was certainly a tough assignment for the young lad.. One to keep in the back of the cranium when team lists are released for Round 1.

26. Tom Cutler – DEF – $412,800

One to watch for 2018. Could develop into a great SC pick like Zac Williams, and is on my watchlist for 2018. Brisbane fans are excited about him, so one to watch this year, and next pre-season. Will provide run off half-back in tandem with Sam Mayes, so is a future star for Brisbane.

38. Tom Rockliff – MID – $603,900

I can’t in good faith recommend Rockliff as a pick this year. I strongly feel that his output will drop off, and may get left in the dust a bit by Beams and Zorko in scoring. Didn’t show really anything today that would make me even consider him this year. Could make me look foolish though.

43. Jake Barrett – MID – $127,900

Tiny bit of a worry that he’s put up a game like this coming into round 1. May not be the on-field option we had all considered him to be. Then again, may have already done so much to earn his spot in Round 1 that he’s just doing us all a favour and scaring people off. Only time will tell! Did definitely lift as the game went on, with his opening half pretty dreadful. Ideally, you’d be loopholing him with Powell-Pepper for that M8 spot each week. Needs to get upgraded in order to be named Round 1, so is one to watch. Christensen out for 6-8 weeks, so if he does get elevated, there is a spot available.

So there you have it community. What did you make of it, and did anyone stand out for you that I missed?



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Is Sloane still a valid option even though he hasn't been playing??


Nope. Pick him up once he starts slow.


Is anyone else considering beams swallow omeara Sandilands and Roughead


I have all of the above


All have proven to be capable scorers and offer value in a season where rookies are scarce. Whilst there certainly is a bit of risk involved all of them have shown through preseason that they are moving well. Completion obviously goes up a notch in two weeks but it's not like any of them are going to experience decreased roles


Not me Taranto will make more $ than Swallow


Not sure if taranto will have a spot every week like swallow should


Srrongly disagree clokey. Swallow will ave. 80 at least, 100 at most. Taranto probably averages in the low 70s. At only about $75k more it has to be swallow


agree with this/ we tend to overate the scoring on our rookies. very few avg over 70+ each year. though I think taranto could be one of them if he can get game time.


Paying $200+k for Taranto is a DISASTER in a club that has more talent then TWO AFL clubs, he will need to be a Crisp like player in order for him to make their best 22 each week, I don't think he will play more then 6 games and at his price I don't want any part of Taranto.


All and the nank, I just can't help chasing the value….


Same. Same. And then some…


Mate! Sorry forgot to get back to you! Hope the Pre season is kicking along! Got a spot for me in a league? If not I'll start one up, sure we can fill it round here! And I plan on doubling down again this year!


I haven't started one up this season as I'm living in Japan. I have put a request into Pieman via Jock for a spot in $$$ league….My league code which I just put in when setting it up is 515057, named AFLW 🙂 Community members happy for you to join, especially if you like to comment in the chat forum. Cheers mate


Got them all.


I have all the above and nank also…and a few 200k plus 'rookies'.

The benchmark

Have them all aswell, stuff not having them as they "might" get injured. Most have put some good scores out in the jlt.
Next year we will be wondering should we pick up a player that got injured this year.


I see the value of picking any of them but I have none. I'm going quality over quantity. I've been fooled by the pre-season games in the past. Hopefully not this year. As for injuries, no player is immune.


admire your discipline Jambo. good call with history on your side but gee it is hard to not see value available in returning premo's


Richard Douglas????


Horrible last year, when Sloane and Thompson come back in he'll go forward more. Might be an okay pick at best, but not for me.


Matt Crouch not getting a mention, stiff


Probably, but focused on players that the majority want to hear about.


M Crouch 92
In case ur interested


In no mans land – won't be top 10 mid, won't appreciate enough in coin to be worth picking and trading.


Pick two of Shuey, Gray, Zorko, Beams and Sam Mitchell.


Gray and Beams


Shuey beams


Gray and Beams by quite some distance


I'd def go Beams and Shuey seems a decent POD this year.

Canny the Manny

Beams and TOM Mitchell.


shuey zorko beams


What happened to wiggy?


Downgrade target, think he was stiff to get dropped.


How'd matty crouch look?


He looked really good until he had his arm nearly ripped out of its socket. Still don't know how it didn't. But you could tell he was pretty worried about it and affected him a bit. Still finished well though.

He's in at M5 for me.


Looked pretty good, got plenty of the pill. A valid cheaper mid premo selection


Forward line is giving me headaches!
B. Houli, J. McGovern, H.Hartlett, C.Mills, C.Hampton, A. Otten
– E.Vickers-Willis, T. Stewart
P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, J. Kennedy, N. Fyfe, T. Mitchell, D. Beams, J. O'Meara, J. Barrett
-S.Powell-Pepper, T-Miles, M.Hibberd
B.Grudy, A. Sandilands
-L. Strnadica
L.Dahlhaus, J. Macrae, J.Billings, T. Nankervis, T.Taranto, B. Eddy
-D.Houston, J.Begley


Put this team in the higginator. See what proj score is. Mine is 1996. This team looks about 1800.


You can't say that and not show us your team Gordy !


Made a change; Taranto is now Pickett and Hartlett is Howe. 1797 good call!

Top Hawk

What BS Gordy. If your team can show a projected score of 1850, you have done well. 1996……Give me a break mate.


Spot on, TH. 1996 my a$$…


I'm sitting at 1997 also.


1996 doesn't mean you have a good team, if anything it means you have way to many mid price playerd

The benchmark

Gordy mate it's a projected. Settle tiger 12 days until we start to find out the men from the boys


Gordy his team in the Higginator scores 1991 which isn't bad at all.


If ur going with both dahl and mccrae, make sure not too many others missing in your team when doggies have their bye.


Over the years I have learnt scheduling your BYE structure does absolutely nothing apart from compromise your scoring ability. Bye the time the bye rounds come along everyone's team ALWAYS changes.

I gave up on moulding my team around the bye's, every time I did work out my team around the bye rounds I ALWAYS finished out of the top 1%


4 scores that i feel may be of interest
D Beams 114
S Martin 100
C Hampton 91
A Otten 79



Top Hawk

Beams, Hampton and Andy Otten Holty!

These three are in my side tonight.

The big Tophawks inclusion is Dayne Beams.

After a strong effort last week, I was thinking OK, Beamsy is recovering from his injury setbacks and looking good, but I was not sold.

Today, Dayne Beams played like the" Dayne Beams" I remember when he was at the pies. What a gun. At $432 K I will find that cash to fit him into my team structures.


Thoughts ??

DEF : Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart (Ryan, EVW)
MID : Danger, JPK, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Gaff, Oliver, SPP (Barrett, Balic, Hibberd)
RUCK : Nankervis, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FOR : Dahlhaus, Greene, Roughead, Taranto, McCarty, Black (Pickett, Bolton)

Have 200k in bank, the risk of a Nankervis/Sandilands combo is scary, if doesnt come off. Although Gawn/Goldstein seem to have a ruck partner in Spencer/Pruess limiting there impact.


Then maybe put pruess as ur r3.


Agree with Dan totally, when you select a week ruck like this one, such as having Sandiballs in Nan's Krevis makes me shudder at the thought, its not a good look at all.

Pointless having Strnadica if you dont have ruck cover in your forward line, you would be crazy not to use that $200k and get rid of Taranto and find a bit more cash and select Lycett as your ruck cover, he played 20 games last year and had a average of 83 – These were Lycett's scores last season: 79,64,107,104,115,88,74,109,113,69,38,100,90,93,118,76,57,2,118,49,81 – Once you remove his score of (2) in round 21 last season, his average jumps to 90 and considering NicNat played 15 games last season and this year with no NicNat I have no idea why a lot more people don't have him especially those who are going with Sandiballs let alone someone like yourself who has Sandiballs in Nan's Krevis – SCARY!!!.

I currently have Gawn & Gooldy as my Ruck combo and have Lycett as my F4 – I don't have Lycett for ruck cover I have him because I can see him averaging 100 this season .


If you get the structure right you will kick ass this season. I still can't work out what it is. This game made it even more complicated. Barrett onfield is not an option that's for sure. Nice work Ben


My bet is that it's 2 premium defenders and 6 or 7 mids. What the rucks and fwds look like is anyone's guess.


It is anyone's guess Eric. Mid & fwd rookies look like low scorers or low job security or both. Hell of an equation to try & solve


Will make for an interesting season. Plenty of PODs floating about I'd say.


Who are ya 4 on field rookies that is post good enough scores?


Agree, I've got nank @ f5 because I can't find a forward rookie to trust on field, swallowm7, spp m8, 3 premo backs. Like the look of Taranto but GWS have been trotting out top 5 picks for a few years now and I can't think of any that've played a majority of their first season. Anyway I keep looking at these games and my team and trying to change it but I always end up back around this structure. God help us


Nice write up.

With all this Ruck issues going on ive gone back to Martin who I had in my original team as R2. I think he'll be a POD with only 4.7% selection (Will go up to 10% by season launch) and with Archie Smith not looking like getting a run in the early season, Martin will be a single ruckman. #Martilands #getonit

Hes now my R1!!

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Marchbank, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd (N.Newman, T.Stewart)

MID: Danger, Pendle, Selwood, Bonts, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP (J.Barret, H.Wigg, T.Miles)

RUCK: Martin, Sandi (Strnadica)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Mancrevis, Tarantino, Pickett (A.Black, B.Eddy)


$31700 remaining,

2-10-7-11 Byes

I dont have a DPP that can swap into DEF anyone think this could be an issue?


Your issue will be having 2 North rookies. Both have dropped off as JLT progressed.
I don't thin either will play R1 or R3..
Choose 1…


Try ottens. Might be more reliable than vw and his low de%


Agree with Gordy, get Otten…but b4 you do that you badly need Hampton. Swap 2xNorth D5-6 for 2xAde


Thanks for the feed back guys appreciate it. Adding 2 ADE rooks into my BACK gives me a 2-10-5-13 bye setup, which I think is a better option. Makes my Rd. 12 stronger.

Now to find $4400


Interpretation of too high has changed this year – umps instructed not to pay high for the Selwood shoulder shrug


DEF: shaw, adams, laird, marchbank, hampton, vickers-willis (stewart, guthrie)
MID: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Treloar, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Taranto, SPP (Barrett, Wiggs, Hibberd)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Billings, Roughead, Black, Pickett (Cameron, Eddy)

have 36k in the bank. not sure about my F2, im tempted by picking greene or someone else, not sure how macrae will be this year. also not that happy about pickett at F8, however i cant squeeze the money anymore. the only option i see is taranto swap with pickett through dpp and then put wiggs or barrett on M8, but im not sure who is best.

Thoughts on team?


Maybe drop gawn for witts. You might lose 50 sc points but you gain enough cash for a whole prem player in the mid and have spp.on bench.


i see no reason to do that, gawn will probably score more than most premo mids, also the risk i would have with witts and sandilands omg i wouldnt be able to cope, plus why would i put spp on the pine.


Ill like seeing someone with the stones to pick Billings, looks promising! I certainly don't have big enough ones to pick him.


to be honest i dont see much risk, the only risk is if he doesnt play mid time and by the sounds of it he will be playing most of his time in the middle. i reckon he could average at least 90 but there is a chance he could go for 100, this year is a big one for him and i think the saints will do something similar to what the dogs did last year, dont know about winning the whole thing but they will improve drastically, i hope billings does as well.


LMFAO Re: " i think the saints will do something similar to what the dogs did last year"

That's hilarious, they will struggle to make top 8 and if they do they will lose the first final.
Melbourne have a better chance to win the flag. LMAO


i obviously didnt mean win the whole thing, i just think it is about time the young core clicked together and made a finals appearance, it is about time for melbourne as well


Bloody hell. This last week has given me more headache then put me at ease. Surely we can't start with nankilands, it goes against every rule, the smallest thing going wrong will put our season in shambles. Who to start at D2. Shaw or Adams. D1 Simpson or docherty. Is Higgins a worthy selection? Which rookies will score and rise the most in value…. and the season hasn't even started yet.


Spot on Jeremy. It's a balls out season coming up


Yeah it's tough, I'm considering caddy down to Higgins to free up a little cash. He does look good and plenty of room for a 100av mid at north….


We can't start with Nakilands…….. and stop calling me Shirley


Well I happened to have gone to this game live today and learnt a few things you wouldn't see on TV. I didn't see Hampton go anywhere other than the centre bounces LOCK. Beams carried the Brisbane midfield LOCK. Laird showed why he is a dominant defender LOCK.
I wonder how many people are on the Zorko train now, I didn't really see much of him. Rockliff was always trying to get cheap disposals on the outside played alright but I wouldn't pay $600k for him. Finally Crouch did look like he could push his average near the 105 mark this season


Currently have Crouch but not 100% sold on him.
Is Greene and Crouch better than Higgins and Hanners ?




Is Beams top 10 midfielders?

What are the chances of him playing all the games?

Does he have much competition in the team for points?

Is he the most likely to get tagged? And if so how does he score?


ATM I have SandiWitts with a Nanki at f4 as backup…..sounds crazy….by my mids are looking mighty fine…..Danger, Pendles, Hannabery Merrett, Treleor Fyfe Beams O'Meara (SPP, Barrett Taranto)……I will chicken out probably and slot Gawn back in…..I think coaches were just giving their premo rucks a bit of a rest during the hit and giggle of the pre season….Grundy, Goldy and Gawn will all ruck alone IMHO


Taranto on the pine! Shift him fwd mate, won't get a run in your stacked mids. A cheaper rook will gain money faster than him, even though he scores well. SuperCoach maths ¯_(ツ)_/¯


I've toyed with it myself, but likewise I reckon I'll chicken it, Gawn is a beast! If I could lock witts into that season long Gold Coast number one ruck position I'd probably consider it more but I really don't think we can!


Is having Laird, Hampton & Otton all in Defence as stupid as it sounds ???


Yep. Looking highly likely of heading that way. What's the word on young Guthrie from Geelong ? Hearing he's injured but can't find anything official.


Think Zac was just left out this week. His brother has been injured but returns tomorrow. Our defensive structures seem up to the selectors at North and the Crows now.


Not sure if Otten in best 22. May get a few games and then make way for a couple of returning crows

Johnny Bee

They will either play Otten or Cheney. Otten has his foot in the door however because Cheney is only playing his 1st game this week at sanfl level after injury. Otten has been very impressive


I thought there was someone else to come back?


Lever will be back too, but they played Talia, Hartigan, Lever and Cheney together all year last season, so it's a like for like with Otten coming in for Cheney. Jake Kelly will still be in the mix too, Cheney's bigger thing is having enough speed that he can get to contests to nullify or take an intercepting mark, something i'm not sure Otten has anymore.


OMG cannot sleep thinking about this season way too much.

Which combo would people prefer

Oliver, Roughy/Nank (can't decide which one or if I need sandi cover), Green


Crouch, Nank, Roughy

Cheers in advance


Probably the second but without crouch



Boris the destroyer

Is Richard Tambling still a valid m4/5 selection?


Good non scoring loophole!


JOM and Menzel or Swallow and Taranto


Option 1


Option 2


Any thoughts appreciated!
Def: Shaw Montagna Laird Marchbank Hampton Otten (EVW Stewart)
Mid: Danger Pendles Priddis Fyfe Tmitch Beams Omeara Swallow (SPP Barrett Hibberd)
Ruck: Goldy Sandi (Strndica)
Fwd: Dahl Roughie Nanscrevis Hoskin-Elliott McCarthy Black (Pickett Eddy)
$49,700 left.
Cheers for any feedback guys!


Would go adams instead of Montagna, grundy instead of goldy and its too risky to have jom and swallow at the same time. Would try to look at beefing up the foward line a bit too.


Don't know about Montagna, I think there are better options around that price, if you can fit a Carlton premo in even better.
Marchbank also concerns me as I don't think he will appreciate greatly and the money would be better spent in the fwd line.

Really like the mids, I've done the same, stacked it with 5 premos and the 3 obv midpricers.

Can't fault the rucks.

Forward line looks too thin, too many onfield rookies. The way I see it, the ones around the 200k mark are not worth it this year, maybe one will go alright, but pick too many any they kill your structure.

Just my thoughts! 🙂


Cheers mate!


treoler and shaw or bont and adams?


First Option


First option


Anyone got the SC scores for Adelaide and Brisbane

neil Demons Delight

Hey Bont read an old thread of yours re -Jake Lloyd whats your thoughts now cheers mate neil

Hard luck

Aint no 2nd prize mate



Richard Douglas 123
Josh Jenkins 114
Mitch McGovern 110
Rory Atkins 109
Rory Laird 93
Matt Crouch 91
Curtly Hampton 90
Brodie Smith 86
Taylor Walker 85
Sam Jacobs 83
Andy Otten 78
Daniel Talia 74
David Mackay 71
Tom Lynch 65
Eddie Betts 64
Jake Kelly 64
Wayne Milera 61
Luke Brown 60
Hugh Greenwood 56
Troy Menzel 56
Charlie Cameron 51
Kyle Hartigan 41
Jordan Gallucci 19
Reilly O’Brien 13


Dayne Beams 114
Stefan Martin 100
Daniel Rich 93
Tom Cutler 87
Tom Rockliff 82
Tom Bell 78
Matthew Hammelmann 75
Harris Andrews 74
Sam Mayes 73
Dayne Zorko 71
Darcy Gardiner 67
Mitch Robinson 64
Ben Keays 64
Rohan Bewick 62
Ryan Lester 57
Nick Robertson 56
Eric Hipwood 53
Michael Close 49
Lewis Taylor 47
Jake Barrett 47
Ryan Harwood 41
Daniel McStay 35
Cedric Cox 29
Ryan Bastinac 22


Swallow or JOM (M6/7) & Marchbank (D4) out for Beams & EVW/Newman? Or leave it as is?




I'm not so sure on the roomies down back but beams will be a premier by the end of the year so hard pick


Agreed. Marchbank may become D6-8 if hi holds scores in the 80 range. Otherwise he is a stepping stone like some of the rooks.

Current Defence is:

Doc, Shaw, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Witherden, Stewart).

To get Beams in means moving out JOM or Swallow.
Both risks but cash makers if they hold form. Beams a keeper if fit, but still a risk too. Still undecided.


I don't normally ask for team advice but I am struggling to seperate Gunston and Greene for my F3. Any sage words from the community?


Have to go Greene


Gunston is the safer option. Greene will go large then go missing.


Gunston out of those, I'm leaning towards the burn man Higgins though to save a bit of cash. Or even the forgotten man in paddy Ryder if he comes out and tears it today, interesting Hinkley mentioned the corpse Dixon doing a bit of ruck work to find form, for me this would definitely mean lobbe getting the chop. If find it hard to leave paddy out if he a) tears this last preseason game and b) is named as their solo ruck. Lot of ifs I guess


I'm not going near the Nank, but will consider Ryder at F4


I'm considering both, nank feels like a no brainer to me, remember he averaged 74 odd last year sharing the duties, not hard to see him hitting 85-90 as a solo or as you like to say, lone wolf.


Ryder first quarter, 7 disposals, 5 marks, 7 hitouts. I might be running the nank and Ryder after all




Thanks guys, Greene has a lower consistency rating, does this mean he is less consistent than Gunston?


McCarthy or marchbank


Tough one. Marchbank for me. Looks in good touch and the ball will be in the Carlton defence a lot this season.


tom lynch & EVW or Marchbank & Roughy


option 2


Roughy needs to go in so option 2


Hodge will miss round 1 against Essendon. Club imposed suspension for missing training.


Thoughts on my team community?
B- Simmo, shaw, Howe, marchbank, Hampton, otten (Stewart, guthrie)
M- Danger, Hannes, treloar, priddis, Fyfe, Oliver, swallow, Powell pepper, (Barrett, wigg, Hibberd)
R- Martin, Sandi (Strnadica)
F- NRoo, Dahl, Greene, roughy, black, Pickett (Houston, Cameron)


If you can dish the extra cash for doch then you won't regret it


Also there are much better midpriced midfielders. Oliver just had a standout game but won't be a ripper during the season


Oliver has played very well in all 3 JLT games. Like PODs of Simmo, Howe, Priddis, Riewoldt


I don't like the Nank. Especially at R1. Find the cash to get at least Martin or a proper R1.

I prefer McGrath over Marchbank. Should have a higher ceiling and has DPP


DPP is very deceiving. Marchbank is probably best 22 for a team that will be playing down back a lot so Marchbank is better


I won't have either, awkward price, not enough cash to be made.


Beams or T. Mitchell for M5?
Both are potential top 10 mid in my opinion but need help deciding who is better value.
Appreciate thoughts


Sandilands or Nank as R2?




Chris Fagan said Stef Martin was quiet when rucking with Archie Smith and was very happy with Martin's game as a solo ruckman and they would wait and see as to whether the Lions go in with 1 or 2 ruckman. This is very significant as the likes of Gawn and Goldy are currently not the only ruckman in their respective sides.


Marchbank or Hampton? I already have Laird and Otten…. my worry is too many Crows down back.


Two of those Crows are rookies. You won't keep all of them. Go with who you think is better


Hampton is a lock

Marchbank is this weeks 'flavour of the week'

neil Demons Delight

had 3 good jlt s Derek must be considered maybe D5


Higgo not happy. Lycett done his shoulder, gone for many weeks.


The Pieman curse. He was in my team


Shit I really liked him this season


Hey guys what combo would you go with?

Beams, caddy, 117-123k rookie
I'm unsure on caddy and don't like many forwards this year under 500

N.Riewoldt, swallow and Bowes/turner/ hoskinelliot


Thoughts Community?

B: Shaw, Laird, Tuohy, Merchbank, Hampton, Stewert
(Otten, Hibberd)

M: Danger, Treloar, Fyfe, Titch, Adams, M.Crouch, Beams, O'Meara
(SPP, Barret, Picket)

R: Sandi, Witts (sterndica)

F: N.Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Higgins, Roughhead, McCarthy, Black
(Eddy, Miles)

Obviously very risky Ruck but i just think any decision in the ruck this year is a risk no matter what we choose. Would rather wait and see who puts their hand up and well, if either of them get injured or omitted then i can just make a quick trade and deal with it.

I've gone Adams in the middle just to see how the rookies go and can swap him with Hibberd in defence to make the backline stronger as I'm sure Adams will be a top 6 defender this year. I feel its good cover also.

depending on how Touhy goes today he will either stay or become Mills or KK and bank the extra cash.

Thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers all


I'm also going with Sandi and Witts….but you need some back up in your forward line.


How do you just make a quick trade and deal with it?. Cant run those 2 in the ruck with no backup. But its only my opinon



B: Adams, Laird, Johannisen, J.Hunt, Marchbank, Hampton
(Vickers-Willis, Stewart)

M: Hannebery, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Titch, O'Meara, SPP, Hibberd
(Freeman, Barret, Picket)

R: Gawn, Santi (sterndica)

F: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Roughead, J.Elliot, McCarthy, Black
(Eddy, Cameron)

Also have $284,900 left



Thoughts community, gone for a riskier set up as I think this year with the lack of rookies may require..

Shaw laird marchbank Hampton otten Evw- hibberd guthrie

Danger pendles Rockliff bontempelli fyfe Adams beams Spp- Barrett Pickett miles

Gawn goldy- stranacia

Dalhaus Greene rough Taranto black Cameron- Houston butler


Hi Sarah, welcome back. The rucks are the key, AGAIN, this season. I'm going to start with Nankervis and Sandilands. I don't trust the durability of Adams or Beams, Swallow 'feels' a better option. Marchbank at D3 looks light on. I've gone for Jeremy McGovern at D3 with Jake Lloyd at D4. Hampton is a lock at D5. I have a 4-6-0-3 premo struture(including JM , JL and Roughie in the keeper list). Have gone for durability in my premos this season, got heavily charred last season.


Hey Krups, yeah I know it's ridiculous and I might not do it yet. I'm going for hope more than anything. Hope sandi stays on the park for a while at least. Witts to stay in the team. Hoping he can average 70-80 till his round 9 bye.

How do I deal with it? Just make a tough call on a trade and burn one with Whatever rookie is doing well that I don't have in a certain position I bring in at the cost of a touhy, omeara, crouch or Higgins if they not performing I guess.

Shake n bake

Do we just have to get players like Marchbank McCarthy WHE in because l can see teams looking at team sheets come rd 1 and filling there lines with rookies that won't necessarily be there 3 to 4 to 5 games in?


Its the reality we have to accept. This yr we have no choice but to fork out extra dough on low scoring players for the assurance of there job sercurity or risk having no bench players only a few rounds into the season

neil Demons Delight

there is another choice Dukes mid pricers granted to get a jom in you have to take Steven instead of Pendles but a jom and Steven is better than Pendles and a non playing wigg if I have said that rite


Is it better to get beams in at M7 with only 1k left in the salary cap, or go for o'meara/swallow and keep a little extra money to make corrective trades with? I really like the prospect of beams this year and if i pick him, the aim will be to have him as a keeper, whereas O'meara/Swallow will be stepping stones. Whats the better option here community?

neil Demons Delight

Really tough call Aurora. thing that haunts me is Beams health that's why I wont touch him..but same with JOM /SWALLOW..TOSS UP MATE

Clock Management

Barrett won't get upgraded, Has to be a minimum of 8 week injury to be put on LTI, Christensen only gone for 6. Beams very tempting, hopefully he keeps himself healthy.
Big question is does Archie Smith play rd 1? I'm leaning to no but Fagan is a fan of the men ruck structure which has been successful at Hawthorn

Clock Management

2 Men


Im pretty sure every team can nominate 1 rookie before r1 to play the whole season without needing to have a player on lti

Clock Management

Not true mate, Brisbanes senior list is full


What are we reading into Pendlebury being pulled out with Achilles soreness ? Do we need to rethink him in our sides or is he still as dependlebury as ever ?


He's missed 1 game in the last 4 years and hasn't averaged below 116 in the last 4 years. You can depend.


Correction, hasn't averaged below 116 in the last 6 years.


Can Howe and T Adams BOTH end up top 6 defenders?


Ok…think this is almost set…

Adams, Laird, Hampton. Otten, Hibberd, VW, Stewart/T Guthrie
Pendles, Hanners, Jwood, Treloar, P Cripps, Fyfe, Steven, Beams……..PP/Barrett/Pickett
Nank, Sandi……Strandica
Dahl, Greene, Billings, Rough, Taranto, Galluci….Houston/T Smith

Soft in rucks I know, but with what Dees are doing with Spencer, and Goldie just going…rucks will be upgrade targets.

Thoughts ?


Happy with my team but very little cash left. My problem is I have no expensive 'rookies' such as McCarthy or Taranto (or D Swallow, or Jaeger). Not sure there will be enough quality amongst the true rookies for me to leave all of these boys out. Are any absolute must haves?


Lobbe dropped. Ryder playing as sole ruck today and apparently looking the goods


He was BOG


This is my lineup, any feedback would be greatly appreciated:



RUC: GRUNDY, SANDI (strnadica)



Was getting excited with spp. Tossing up having him at m8 or bench. Saw at halftime he had 14 touches and a goal. They looked at other stats. 6 clangers and 6 frees against. I think id rather play witts on ground in the rucks and strengthen my mids.


Weather conditions were shocking.


Adams and Marchbank


Shaw and McGrath


Option 1 for me simply because im not convinced by mcgrath


Witts and marchbank


Ryder and mhibberd

neil Demons Delight



Not in best 22. He played in defence today. No hodge, Birchall or Gibson. Didn't do much but was an awful day.

Irony is he might get a round 1 game because Hodge will miss the first game, but get dropped for round 2, big trap!

Top Hawk

5 goals to Brett Eddy! Good boy!! Another forward rookie locked away.

Top Hawk

Aaron Black out for Cats. That is a worry.

Supercoach Spud

Who Should i Go with Gaff or Shuey or none but i do want a west coast mid

neil Demons Delight



What forward can I get for 397K or less?


A forward thats not Roughy or Nank because ive got them already


What is going on with this website?
Different time lines between Home and Supercoach 2017 and big time lags on reporting.
Sometimes a report appears then it disappears ..


What is going on with this website?
Player Index ?… what happened to Docherty? Didn't he pay his referral fees?


What does the communtity think of my team is there any room for improvement

DEF: Docerty, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Stewart, Guthrie)

MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Pickett (Miles, Barrett, Hibberd)

RUCK: Gawn Sandilands (Cameroon)

FWD Dahlhaus, Macrae, Lynch( GC ), Roughhead, Black, Butler ( Houston, Eddy)

$102,000 left over



Watson or Hopper?
Is it better to spend on a fallen premo and guarantee some extra points each round or go for the cheaper option which will earn greater cash?

Houdini Stare

Watto is a lock