CarlosAgainSome insightful SuperCoach information was gleaned out of this JLT match between GWS and North Melbourne.

The game provided us with a chance to have another good look at the Taranto boy and a number of perspective North rookies, as well as seeing how the likes of Heater, Goldy and co are travelling as potential keepers.

There were plenty of enticing performances from temptresses like Greene, Higgins, Waite and MacMillian as well.

Here’s some key observations from the match:

  • Toby Greene will be very tempting for many. Had a MASSIVE game tonight.
  • The ruck puzzle continues. Goldy was OK, without splitting the contest open.
  • Lock Heater in as D1. He was majestic tonight.
  • Shaun Higgins is a legitimate FWD option this season. He *clears throat* looks in really good nick. Only played the first half as precaution, though.
  • Tim Taranto and Kayne Turner showed they will be very solid, although more expensive, FWD rookie options for our sides.
  • Our cheap North rookie options have been reduced in number. Only Vickers-Willis and Hibbard a chance for Round 1 now.

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Stephen Coniglio | MID | $575,900

Looks every chance to elevate his game to another level in 2017. Was one of the top mids on the ground when he hurt his knee in the third term. Finished the match shortly after as a precaution. Had 21 touches from just 48% time on ground.

Toby Greene | FWD | $492,000

Had a ripper of a game. Probably BOG and will tempt many after this performance. Looked bloody dangerous around goals and got shitloads of it at half forward. Opened the match with 11 touches and 2 snags in the first stanza alone. Snagged 5.1 for the match to go with 25 possessions, 18 of them contested. Hard to justify picking him as a FWD keeper when it looks as though he will get little mid time in the GWS engine room. But the way he’s going, it’s not the worst move. Looks like he will improve on last year’s average.

Dylan Shiel | MID | $539,200

Came off early in the match with a hip complaint. Tried to play on, but didn’t really have a huge impact. Went down again in the third with a shoulder complaint.

Callan Ward | MID | $574,500

Another warrior-like performance from the samurai king of GWS. 28 touches, 2.1 goals and 15 contested possessions. Massive game.

Tom Scully | MID | $530,000

He ran. And ran. And ran. Sometimes he got the ball. But he was overshadowed by the many others.

Devon Smith | MID | $575,900

Decent match. Another part of this potent GWS forward line. Finished with 3.1 from 18 touches. Will form a potent half forward combination with Greene.

Jonathon Patton | FWD | $349,000

Good in patches, but not worth considering as a key forward.

Tim Taranto | MID/FWD | $207,300

Worth forking out the extra cash for this young lad, I reckon. The kid can play. Had five touches in the first five minutes. Looked incredibly impressive. Tough as a rusty nail as well. Faded a bit in the second half, but all in all has enjoyed a stunning pre season. Should be named Round 1. Get him in your side.

Matthew Kennedy | FWD | $235,000

Was given kick in duties on the odd occasion. Mature young man for his age, but battling for his spot with a lot of other prime talent.

Jeremy Cameron | FWD | $386,300

Dangerous up forward with 3.4 and six marks. Just one part of an insanely-packed forward line.

Adam Tomlinson | DEF | $316,900

Went down in the third. That was the first time I noticed him. Finished with 18 touches and nine marks.

Josh Kelly | MID | $473,800

Shitloads of it early. Break out contender. Finished with 24 possessions. But, as is the common problem at the Giants, is fighting with a lot of other quality mids.

Heath Shaw | DEF | $576,500

It’s poetry in motion watching Heater take the kickout, do a little dinky kick to himself before streaming out from full back, taking a bounce and hitting a team-mate on the chest. A very reliable, safe option in defence. Had 27 kicks and 16 marks. Lock at D1.

Zac Williams | DEF | $480,100

Got done for a deliberate rushed behind. Messed up a kick-in that resulted in a goal. Turned a couple of others over. Not the best day at the office for Zac. But he rebounded nicely in the second half and finished with a half decent score.

Ryan Griffen | MID | $511,000

The forgotten man at GWS. And if he keeps playing like this he is unlikely to ever be remembered at the Giants. Was solid, but not spectacular.

Shane Mumford | RUC | $536,300

Had 34 hitouts. Looked in alright nick, but I can’t see him having much SC significance this season.

Rory Lobb | FWD | $406,100

Picked up a few niggles, which limited his output.

Nick Haynes | DEF | $457,900, Adam Kennedy | DEF | $273,500, Matt Buntine | DEF | $281,600, Phil Davis | DEF | $355,700 and Nathan Wilson | DEF | $363,700.

All played as pure defenders. Pass.

Steve Johnson | FWD | $464,500 and Aidan Corr | DEF | $236,700

Both fell to injuries in the first half, sat out the rest of the match.

Notable absentees: Brett Deledio, Jacob Hopper, Harry Perryman, Will Setterfield, Lachie Whitfield.

 

NORTH MELBOURNE

Shaun Higgins | FWD | $426,400

Only played the first half, but he looked really good. One of North’s best mids up to half time. Probably the fittest and strongest he has been in his career. Sat out the second half as a precaution. Could be a legitimate FWD keeper if you have the spuds to start with him.

Jack Ziebell | MID | $514,200

Looks willing to step up as captain to try and cover North’s losses. Was very strong at the contest and is a chance to improve his average this season.

Nathan Hrovat | MID/FWD | $301,400

Quiet early. Did a couple of nice things as the game wore on. Is he still an option?

Andrew Swallow | MID | $464,800

21 touches up and 8 tackles to 3 qtr time. Looked solid, but can’t see him being relevant.

Luke McDonald | DEF | $348,200

No frills type defender. Plays in the true Shinboner spirit. Not ideal for SC though.

Lindsay Thomas | FWD | $343,300

Played some long stints in the middle. Will actually provide some good X factor in the midfield for the Roos if they play him there more during the regular season.

Ryan Clarke | MID/FWD | $306,500

Played an outside role, got a bit of it.

Trent Dumont | MID | $415,500

Didn’t notice him much, but played OK in patches. Still a bit rough around the edges in certain aspects. Pass for now.

Jy Simpkin | FWD | $162,300

Showed some touches of class. A crafty half forward, he might be worth a look if named Round 1.

Todd Goldstein | RUC | $588,400

It’s worth noting Goldy is tapping to a much shitter midfield now. But like Gawn, I wouldn’t read into this performance too much, though. He played with 2 other ruckmen and didn’t really get out of second gear. Still a good option.

Kayne Turner | FWD | $171,400

The slightly-built Turner has put on 5kgs in the off season. Kicked a couple of snags in the first term and finished with impressive stats of 3 goals, 14 touches and 5 tackles for the match. Awkward price, but could be a smoky option considering the lack of FWD rooks.

Jarrad Waite | FWD | $499,400

Was probably the Kangas’ best tonight. Let’s not forget this man worked himself into form worthy enough to be considered the best player in the competition by some North supporters in the opening rounds of 2016. Waite looked is pristine condition and took a number of strong contested marks. Finished with 5.2 for the match.

Braydon Preuss | RUC | $123,900

He’s a bloody massive unit this bloke. Models his game on Shane Mumford, apparently. Played the majority of the match as a tall forward. Has great strength for a big man and even outmuscled Mumford a couple of times. Took several massive contested grabs. High chance for Round 1 based on this performance.

Ed Vickers-Willis | DEF | $123,900

Went at the body instead of the ball on a couple of occasions. Made a few mistakes. But he looks a good prospect none the less. Wait to see if he is named Round 1.

Jamie Macmillan | DEF | $438,500

Was shown up early by Toby Greene, who absolutely killed him in the first term. Worked his way into the game nicely and showed some good speed and rebound out of defence. A very attacking defender, he ended up getting a fair bit of it.

Majak Daw | RUC/FWD | $378,800

Struggled to get into the game. Not on our radars.

Mitch Hibberd | DEF/MID | $123,900

Played only the second half but was in the thick of things early. Kicked a goal and I thought he was impressive. A good size for AFL already. Pick him if named Round 1.

Sam Gibson | MID | $468,600

Had a fair bit of it. But shouldn’t be considered from a SC perspective.

Ben Cunnington | MID | $575,900

Played second half. Didn’t really inspire.

Robbie Tarrant | DEF | $458,500, Lachlan Hansen | DEF | $326,400, Scott Thompson | DEF | $386,300, Shaun Atley | DEF | $353,400 and Sam Wright | DEF | $333,200.

Wright and Atley got a bit of it, but all these blokes are DEFs I don’t have any SC significance.

Notable absentees: Marley Williams, Jed Anderson, Ben Jacobs, Mason Wood, Ben Brown, Sam Durdin.

 

What are your thoughts, Community?

 

Carlos

@CarlPfeiffer9

144 Comments

Cooper · 10/03/2017 at 22:05

Shaw, Laird, Mills, Hampton, Hibberd (NM), EVW (Otten, Stewart)
Danger, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Hall, Beams, JOM, Swallow (SPP, Barrett, Miles)
Nankervis, Sandilands (Pruess)
Riewoldt, Dahl, Lynch (GCS), Roughy, Taranto, Turner (NM) (Picket, Eddy)

BrownlowBoy · 10/03/2017 at 22:06

GWS GIANTS
Toby Greene 155
Heath Shaw 136
Jeremy Cameron 111
Callan Ward 111
Josh Kelly 101
Devon Smith 91
Shane Mumford 90
Stephen Coniglio 85
Tim Taranto 76
Zac Williams 75
Dylan Shiel 74
Matthew Kennedy 73
Adam Tomlinson 73
Phil Davis 68
Matt Buntine 64
Nick Haynes 63
Tom Scully 62
Ryan Griffen 58
Nathan Wilson 57
Adam Kennedy 52
Rory Lobb 50
Jonathon Patton 43
Aidan Corr 21
Steve Johnson 11
NORTH MELBOURNE
Jarrad Waite 107
Kayne Turner 102
Jamie Macmillan 90
Andrew Swallow 87
Lindsay Thomas 85
Sam Gibson 77
Trent Dumont 75
Shaun Higgins 68
Robbie Tarrant 67
Majak Daw 61
Ben Cunnington 59
Nathan Hrovat 59
Ryan Clarke 59
Shaun Atley 59
Jack Ziebell 58
Scott D. Thompson 58
Todd Goldstein 56
Jy Simpkin 53
Braydon Preuss 45
Luke McDonald 44
Sam Wright 40
Lachlan Hansen 35
Ed Vickers-Willis 28
Mitchell Hibberd 27

Cooper · 10/03/2017 at 22:07

btw, Great Review Mate

Blackie White · 10/03/2017 at 22:08

Say SandWitts returns 180avg for an outlay of $525k, and Gawn/Goldy returns 240avg for an outlay of $1233k.
Sells itself really.

    Chief · 10/03/2017 at 22:40

    Then factor in the 3 trades you'll have to make to get to full Premo, can't see sandi and witts being the top 2 rucks but good luck to ya

      Blackie White · 10/03/2017 at 22:48

      I'm saving 2 upgrades in other lines with the spare 708k, it's all relevant.

    The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 23:18

    I guess it's what price you put on a trade then Blackie?
    You have to put that price into the equation.

      Blackie White · 10/03/2017 at 23:38

      Just treating the Rucks like any other line. Sandwitts should appreciate 400k+ by the byes.
      I would only go this strategy if set & forget is not so clear, ie dual ruck set-ups prevail at Melb, Roos & Pies as prices for the top Ruck combo may drop $150k+.
      So there's another 500k plus $700k on starting prices in value to spend elsewhere and save trades on other lines.
      This strategy also requires a decent F5 fwd/ruck as security, for injury, poor form or omission.

        The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 23:52

        Yeah I can't find the cash for that decent fwd/ruk position.

        RuckmansYEAR · 11/03/2017 at 08:14

        Blackie i'm right there with you mate. Haven't got witts but same strategy here. NO standout ruck option anywhere, so doing some cheap lone wolves. Good option! Stick with it!

          Blackie White · 11/03/2017 at 09:55

          It's def got the potential to provide a nice tactical adv over the competition, but Rd 1 selections will have the final say.

    Dan · 11/03/2017 at 00:21

    The only problem is Witts is a dumb as dogshit hack of a footballer.

      Blackie White · 11/03/2017 at 09:50

      Good point, but it's either Witts or Currie at GCS, and really we only need to look at him as a cash cow until the byes, and he's going early this year.

gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 22:10

Geez old spitter looked good this arvo….. Shaw is Locked!!!

Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:11

Wow. Fyfe 103 points at the half.

    gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 22:14

    Looking good Holty so is Sandi

      Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:20

      Yes they are gator. I still have Cripps in my side. Altough he is coughing the ball up a bit, very happy he is back. May need to swap him for someone who hasnt had a interupted preseason and look at him after the bye

        gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 22:23

        Crouch will be a good option

          Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:28

          Agreed but wont pick him as already have a couple break out contenders and not risking another

            The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 22:46

            If Cripps had got thru the preseason I think he might have been my M5.
            I'd put him above Crouch as a likely next SC ultra premo, beast of a player!

              Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:52

              I may still keep him. Had 48 points at the half and looked underdone. Will/should only get better. If he gets to 95, he will be in my side come rd1.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/03/2017 at 22:33

    Pickett showing abit tonight

      gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 22:36

      Will it be enough to get him a R1 birth Trigger

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/03/2017 at 22:42

        Probably they need a small Forward in fact they need forwards full stop.
        Weita in the fwd line just gives them another avenue.
        But geez cant really see where their goals are gonna come from, so they will play pickett as they need all the help they can get.

          The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 22:48

          Pickett in the fwd line and Taranto in the mid could be handy.

          gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 22:52

          If they get rid of thomas and casboult down there and play the younger kids cause they're a waste of space and money

          Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:57

          As a Carlton supporter, we will need to defend extremely well to win any games this year. Agree we have noone to kick goals. But being a Carlton player, why would you want to kick goals? Everytime when someone wins the Carlton goal kicking, they get rid of them.

    Derek · 10/03/2017 at 22:58

    I'd pay $675k for him. My first picked

Keenbutclueless · 10/03/2017 at 22:16

With Ben Brown to come back, will Preuss hold his spot? Having R3 cover in Preuss or Cameron will mean not needing to play a Nankervis or Ryder. If they go with 3, is he ahead of Daw? Or will they go with 2 and leave them both out?
EVW and Hibberd looking a little less secure for Round 1 after that. Hopefully they will have both done enough across the whole pre season to be named Round 1.

    Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:22

    I think hibberd only played a half. But yes both evw and hibberd were both disappointing as was goldy

    The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 22:37

    Even if you're not going the Nankilands route Preuss at R3 is handy.

    Mayniac · 11/03/2017 at 09:26

    Brown back – Daw out – Preuss keeps his spot
    I have Preuss as R3 at the moment

    Now to decide Nankilands or Boydilands as R1 and R2

Shake n bake · 10/03/2017 at 22:22

Im still really worried about EVW & Hibbard!!

    Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:29

    Yeah. Good chance 1 will play. Cant see both fitting into the kangas side unfortunately.

      Derek · 10/03/2017 at 23:04

      I liked Hibberd, reminds me a bit of JPK

        The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 23:09

        Hope it's Hibberd. That DEF/MID next to his name is handy.

HallyMate · 10/03/2017 at 22:30

Def: Adams, Laird, Mills, Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Stewart, Guthrie)
Mid: Pendles, Selwood, Treloar, Cripps, Fyfe, Titchell, Beams, O'Meara (Wiggs, Barrett, Powell-Pepper)
Ruck: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughy, Nank, Black, Houston (Eddy, Cameron)
Chuck me some feedback if you can guys much appreciated

    HallyMate · 10/03/2017 at 22:31

    Grundy* not Gawn

    Chenz · 11/03/2017 at 09:44

    Fwd line is very light on. Too many mid prices

The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 22:32

Top work, thanks Carlos.
If you had to pick one…Taranto or Swallow as M8?

    Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:38

    If i had to pick one, Id go Taranto. I said it a week ago that with gold coasts midfield depth, cant see swallow spending much time in there. Same could be said for Taranto but he is a lot cheaper and think he will make you more.

      Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:39

      *make you more…..cash

        The Ranger · 10/03/2017 at 22:55

        Sorry. That should have been M7.
        Same opinion Holty?

Richard · 10/03/2017 at 22:35

anyone think Higgins could cop the tag this year? he appears the likely candidate and i imagine could struggle with it.

    Blackie White · 10/03/2017 at 22:52

    Most sides would probably feel confident enough going head to head with the Roos midfield, and back their own ball winners. So chances are he may avoid tagging most games.

One's Bowler · 10/03/2017 at 22:47

Love Jock and the boys podcast and having listened Powell Pepper is a lock as a bull. Having seen the way Taranto has played this JLT and the way he got up from a Buddy shoulder this lad wins the Norwich Rising star and could be quite special? $200K not a huge impost?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/03/2017 at 22:51

    I cant believe with what he is up against with the quality of the GWS midfield that he may be selected rd 1!
    That speaks volumes about the kid.
    If selected worth the extra outlay. Quality who has earnt his spot.

      Holty · 10/03/2017 at 22:58

      Agreed.

        The Ranger · 11/03/2017 at 00:05

        Not sure Taranto gets a game when Hopper comes back is my worry.
        Hopper could be anything.

      Kev · 10/03/2017 at 23:02

      Has definitely earnt it, Trigger. Played all 3 preseason games and has excelled. Hopper direct competition? Can't see Lids being used around the packs as much as Taranto

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/03/2017 at 23:09

        Yeah probably between him and hopper to take over whitfields spot.

Derek · 10/03/2017 at 23:05

Gee, I'm starting to ask the question, Adams or Shaw?

    BrownlowBoy · 10/03/2017 at 23:07

    Shaw, I'm running Simmo, Shaw and Laird

    Dan · 11/03/2017 at 01:16

    I think shaw is in the same conversation as doch and simpson. Adams is below them with laird and jj.

    Shake n bake · 11/03/2017 at 12:17

    Both in my side Derek. For me it was a toss up between Shaw & Doch l went with Shaw.

gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 23:08

What to do with Cam McCarthy, Just bagged his sixth

    BrownlowBoy · 10/03/2017 at 23:12

    against Carlton

    Dan · 11/03/2017 at 01:17

    Good JS.

    Danners · 11/03/2017 at 08:41

    Seems like you haven't done your research. He's only kicked 7 in the whole JLT series

gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 23:26

Fyfe 178 sc points… welcome

    One's Bowler · 10/03/2017 at 23:37

    Geelong play the Dockers round 1. Danger or Fyfe captain?

      gator59 · 10/03/2017 at 23:44

      Good question OB we will wait and see dangers last JLT and decide after that.. AT this stage i would say FYFE..

    The BONT · 11/03/2017 at 06:47

    Against Carlton remember

Jake · 10/03/2017 at 23:34

Lock J.Kelly in gents can't see anyone really taking his wing spot. Whitfield obviously out for awhile with that suspension, Kelly has very impressive.
Feel free to express your interest on this.

    Monitor · 11/03/2017 at 00:06

    Spot on he is locked in for me too

    Chenz · 11/03/2017 at 00:59

    The question is Gaff or Kelly?

    Holty · 11/03/2017 at 04:45

    Kelly will improve but will he average 110+?

    Danners · 11/03/2017 at 08:42

    He does look good, but like Holty said, I can't see him averaging around 110+ which would mean he would be one of their main midfielders.

    BlakeyP · 11/03/2017 at 11:04

    Wont be top 10 mid and not priced cheap enough for a stepping stone. So not worth the pick

James · 11/03/2017 at 02:10

Devon Smith's price and posi is wrong, thoughts on him as a fwd option?

Dee · 11/03/2017 at 05:49

where's the match review for the Carlton and Fremantle game?

The BONT · 11/03/2017 at 06:39

Where abouts does everyone think I will finish overall and how can i change that

DEF: Docerty, Rance, Laird, Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Stewart, Guthrie)

MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Atley (Wigg, Barrett, Hibberd)

RUCK: Gawn Sandilands (Cameroon)

FWD Dahlhaus, Macrae, Lynch( GC ), Roughhead, Black, Miles ( Butler, Eddy)

$246,000 left over

    Northernsoul74 · 11/03/2017 at 07:15

    Posting the same thing over and over is getting very tedious to read.

      UncleSwaggy · 11/03/2017 at 10:54

      its also impossible to guess where you will finish overall based on a starting lineup

Dee · 11/03/2017 at 06:44

I noticed not a lot of teams starting with Pendles yet again, the bloke is so reliable and has accumulated the most SC points in the last 7 years. The Rolls Royce of midfielders and for the last 4 years or so I have always started my team with Pendles. Him and Ablett have automatically filled my M1 and M2 positions come Round 1 in recent years, although this year I won't be going in with Ablett… I hate not picking him though, I feel like I am betraying him for not selecting him in my side "DIVINE FC" after all the good things he has done for our teams, week in week out we didn't have to stress about who to pick as captain, 130+ averages and he'd bless us with a couple of 200+ games. I'm gonna miss you Gaz, you're not in my team but I still bloody love you mate. Can't wait for you to come back to Geelong next year with Selwood and Danger, whooooahhh my mouth is bloody watering already. Cats Premiers 2018 I reckon, lock it in and throw away the key lads….. absolute bloody certainty!

Anyways….. So I guess you could say that me starting with Pendles is a bit of a POD? I wonder what percentages of teams will start with him, before I go I have a Question for the community. Does everyone here reckon Pendlebury's scoring output will decrease this year? With Adams and Treloar stamping their authority as the next generation of Collingwood midfielders, specially with Wells in there too…. Do you guys think Scott Pendlebury will still be Collingwoods #1 midfielder by seasons end? Thanks for your time community, I hope you all have a bloody ripper of a year! WEEKKKKUMMM….

    The BONT · 11/03/2017 at 06:52

    It's hard to tell. Adams and Treloar were there last year and he scored well. With Wells at Collingwood he could become an outside runner and the middle kept the same. Besides Wells will be injured most of the time.

      Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:13

      Yes but don't you think Treloar and Adams will only improve and get better? Pendles has a few years on those boys as well…. I still think he'll still be the number one midfielder at Collingwood by seasons end by by the way. Thanks for your thoughts the BONT, cheers….

        Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:17

        The BONT will you be starting with Pendles mate?

          The BONT · 11/03/2017 at 09:52

          Nar iv gorn with Treloar he is young and impoving

    Holty · 11/03/2017 at 07:21

    Hi Dee. Not a POD mate. He is the 3rd most selected mid premium with 21.5% ownership. Only Fyfe and Danger more selected.
    As for Pendles dropping off, lots are concerned with collingwood having too many mids, pendles role, etc.
    Exactly the same was said pre season last year and ended up being the 2nd best scorer. I think it is a preference of the individual. Some not willing to pay the money early because they will pick him up cheaper later in the season. But will guarantee they will all be trying to get him in at some point in the season.

      Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:35

      then you miss out on all of his scoring early in the year….

        Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:35

        Cheers Holty, thanks for the information…

        Holty · 11/03/2017 at 07:40

        You dont need to sell pendles to me. He has been locked in my team since the start

    Derek · 11/03/2017 at 08:24

    You can't have them all.

One Touch Wonder · 11/03/2017 at 07:17

Everyone has got it WRONG. Anyone who is thinking of having Nankervis or Ryder in there forward Line as COVER for Sandilands needs to know that if Sandilands or any other Ruck gets injured or managed, it isn't Nankervis or Ryder who is your cover, it is Eddy, Pickett, Smith or whoever else you have at F7/F8 is your REAL cover. Think about how many points that will generate, they might not play and if they do they may score at a Menapoo level.

People thinking about Nankervis as cover just because he has DPP don't get it. He is NOT the cover because he was already on field and therefore his points already counting. Is is your forward line bench that will need to be counted. Your F7/F8 score should be better than a donut, but not by much, so are those FEW points WORTH the drama of having to restructure your whole team in the CHANCE of Sandilands missing a week. If Sandilands is going to miss anything more than a week you just trade him, you don't cover him with Eddy. Don't follow the SHOAL, make a SHARK MOVE. If you seriously think Nankervis is a better F4 option than Roughead (or Brayshaw, Steele, Camron) please seek professional Help. The points he/they will outscore Nankervis in the first 3 games alone will be more than Eddy/Pickett/Smith will score as COVER, if you even need them.

    Steve1 · 11/03/2017 at 09:38

    You forgot your shark move last year was Tex Walker, how did that work out for you?

    Swans2012 · 11/03/2017 at 09:51

    I think your missing the point, most people are picking the nank because he's a great cheap forward option, the r/f is a bonus. For mine Nankervis as a solo ruck is a far better f4 (f5 in my case)option than brayshaw Steele and Cameron. On par with roughy for mine. Your also forgetting that when you swing you r/f nank up to cover sandi's one week out you get to use the emergency loophole in your forward line so you can hopefully get the best of your f7/8. I understand your thinking but for mine nankervis and roughy are by far the best sub 400k forwards, the rf on nank is just a bonus and makes him a no brainer, 85 average minimum in expecting.

      Derek · 11/03/2017 at 20:23

      the Nank won't be in my team! He's not that good

    UncleSwaggy · 11/03/2017 at 10:59

    I get what your saying, but if sandi or whoever is out for one week your better off having whatever eddy scores than having a donut or wasting a trade as most people use r3 as the loophole

    Tyruddanaut · 11/03/2017 at 11:03

    The thing is if Sandi gets injured he would have already appreciated 100k so that could be used for better options in the forward line instead of being stuck with a bad ruckman in his place

Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:20

Both stepping stones but who is your pick? Kelly or Oliver?

    Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:21

    surely they can't be keepers…. or can they maybe?

    Holty · 11/03/2017 at 07:30

    Kelly is not a stepping stone. At his price you select him to be a keeper. So my answer is Oliver

      Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:32

      So if you pick Kelly in your team, he's there for good? Surely he won't finish top 10 MID this year, so why pick him? Same with Matty Crouch…

        Holty · 11/03/2017 at 07:57

        Im saying you would only select him if you think he will be a keeper.
        No point paying 470k for a player if you dont think they will be a keeper

          Dee · 11/03/2017 at 08:39

          Agreed….

Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:26

Not too sure about VW and Hibberd now…. a bit disappointing.

    CoachDamo · 11/03/2017 at 11:00

    Rookies will do that from time to time.

    Hibberd only played 45% game time and still had 10 touches – so not too bad.

Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:27

Tom Rockliff or Robbie Gray?

    Zee888 · 11/03/2017 at 10:53

    Rocky.

    CoachDamo · 11/03/2017 at 10:57

    Rocky too for me.

    Mike · 11/03/2017 at 11:55

    None

Dee · 11/03/2017 at 07:38

Marchbank a lock at D4? Don't know about VW and Hibberd anymore….

    Danners · 11/03/2017 at 08:50

    Looks to be one of the best higher defensive rookie selections, has been impressive in the JLT

Derek · 11/03/2017 at 08:15

Shaw may have done enough to earn a start in my team instead of Adams. My Sandilands emergency bank account is dwindling

    Holty · 11/03/2017 at 08:21

    Shaw been locked away in my side for a while. Only defender who is proven to back up 100+ averages.
    You still not having backup for Sandi this year Derek? If Nank has a good game today will you be tempted?

      Derek · 11/03/2017 at 08:30

      the Nank won't be in my team!

      If Lobbe is not named then Ryder is still a chance, otherwise I'll be like crouching and roll the dice

    Moustachio · 11/03/2017 at 17:23

    Shaw scored 200 last year, were you up until this point concerned that he had forgotten how to play football?

      Derek · 11/03/2017 at 20:24

      You can't have everyone, so was saving a few bucks and starting ADAMS. Not anymore

RuckmansYEAR · 11/03/2017 at 08:25

Is danger going to be able to score against a lock down freo round 1. Then has to get his hands on a sandles tap going against him. If that ain't enough he then has to beat fyfe and mundy and neale to the ball to get a clearance. 130 BE against a scorned Ross Lyon who for some reason and missed granny's chance second guessed himself for a year and gave into to peer pressure, only to see a game plan play out that doesn't work for him.
Lock in Ross Lyon Lock Downs this seaon and danger round 1 goes bust.
Just a thought. Danger your not in my side fella.. yet..

    Northerner · 11/03/2017 at 08:54

    First round only counts once in rolling average. It's one third of the impact that a poor score would be from Rd 3 on. So you'll be hurting when he bangs out 150 in week 2!

    Holty · 11/03/2017 at 09:13

    Going by history, all signs point to yes he will smash Freo. Has played Freo 11 times and averages a staggering 125.4. Averages more against freo then any other side.
    Freos midfield has never really tried locking down a whole opposition midfield. They have had Crowley and last year Barlow as taggers but have never been able to do a job on Danger because of his speed and his contested game.

    Moustachio · 11/03/2017 at 17:24

    Look who he plays R2…

Derek · 11/03/2017 at 08:36

I have a new M1.

Fyfe at M1. Dangerfield at M2.

He was that good last night it was beautiful.

    Northerner · 11/03/2017 at 08:51

    Anyone point me to where SuperCoach scores from free game are posted? Thanks

      Northerner · 11/03/2017 at 08:52

      Free should read Freo

    SCaddict · 11/03/2017 at 10:03

    He was certainly in full beast mode last night which is always a sight to behold even if it was against Carlton in a glorified practice game. Can't wait to see him renew acquaintances with Danger in a fortnight. Could make for a tricky captain's call late Sunday.

    Do you remember that game when Fyfe went head to head with Danger when he was still at Adelaide a few years ago? Perhaps the closest thing we've had to Jakovich Carey since, at least in terms of two physical freaks going at one another, albeit in a completely different way and at different positions.

    It was like watching an X-Men movie so looking forward to the sequel in a fortnight ha ha

    Shake n bake · 11/03/2017 at 12:32

    Hes the reason why im not goin to start with Gawn. Last year it was Danger & Gawn, you need two players were you can identify as capt & vc. Most weeks this year im sure it will be danger & Fyfe. So im goin to go with mummy or Grundy and put the extra cash in my fwd line.

Mayniac · 11/03/2017 at 08:43

The question is with Daw struggling yet again will Preuss take his spot?

    Northerner · 11/03/2017 at 08:48

    No doubt on last night's performance from Daw.

Danners · 11/03/2017 at 08:48

Nice Carlos. Gee Greene was prolific, making have a real hard look at him, could improve with GWS success. Kelly looks like he will breakout, but probably won't average enough for me. Taranto looks very talented for a first year player, how will he fit in when the season starts who knows. Also starting to get worried that the podcasts will fade away with the reemergence of Higgins, hope that's not the case…

Tim · 11/03/2017 at 08:59

JPK and Beams or Coniglio and J Kelly?

JPK and Beams irresistible in the past, but a couple of POD up and comers are very tempting!!

    Tim · 11/03/2017 at 09:06

    Or JPK and Kelly and a >500k defender…

    DAS · 11/03/2017 at 09:25

    Coniglio injured his ankle last night. Didn't look too good. Might not be there rd 1.

      Tim · 11/03/2017 at 09:48

      Ah true!

    Abel · 11/03/2017 at 11:26

    Kelly, hall & shaw

Phil · 11/03/2017 at 09:56

With all the uncertainty in rucks this year my tactic is to go with cheaper options and save cash for an extra premium mid. Gawn and Goldy have too much uncertainty in their time in the ruck with possible shared duties I cannot confidently outlay high 5s-mid 600000s. If Nankervis has a good final JLT and with Hampspud out he has to make enough to perhaps upgrade to Gawn/Goldy if they drop y 50-80k. Shaw and Greene have become locks and already thrown the key down the S bend. Liked Turners game but unsure of job security – is he best 22. Can't see him getting game time with Thomas, Hrovat, and even Higgins playing the small forward role. Gotta love SuperCoach

    JustAmug · 11/03/2017 at 17:39

    I'm hearing ya Phil…. Never gone any way other than Set n Forget rucks… can't do it this year. Sacked Gawn yesterday 🙁

Dee · 11/03/2017 at 09:59

DIVINE FC

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Mills, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart.
EMG: Otten, Guthrie.

MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Gray, Fyfe,
T. Mitchell, Oliver, SPP.
EMG: Barrett, Hibberd, Miles.

RUC: Sandilands, Witts.
EMG: Preus.

FWD: Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Roughead, Nankervis,
Taranto, Houston.
EMG: Black, Butler.

$50K left in the kitty, your thoughts please community….

    Abel · 11/03/2017 at 11:27

    Great team

    Dac Zawson · 11/03/2017 at 12:11

    Mills, Mitchell, Oliver, Sandilands, Witts, Roughead and Nankervis are a lot of either non-proven premos (previously not top 8-10 in position), injury risks or pricey stepping stones to have in a single team

    Would consider going 1 up-1 down with some of them

BrownlowBoy · 11/03/2017 at 10:03

Fremantle v Carlton
FREMANTLE

Nat Fyfe 176

Lachie Neale 121

Stephen Hill 111

David Mundy 99

Cam McCarthy 86

Garrick Ibbotson 84

Michael Johnson 83

Lee Spurr 83

Michael Walters 82

Ed Langdon 82

Darcy Tucker 81

Bradley Hill 77

Jonathon Griffin 70

Aaron Sandilands 68

Connor Blakely 61

Danyle Pearce 59

Griffin Logue 56

Lachie Weller 50

Hayden Ballantyne 48

Zac Dawson 47

Joel Hamling 42

Shane Kersten 31

Sean Darcy 16

Cameron Sutcliffe 9

CARLTON

Sam Docherty 116

Matthew Kreuzer 105

Kade Simpson 93

Bryce Gibbs 87

Jarrod Pickett 86

Caleb Marchbank 85

Sam Kerridge 83

Ed Curnow 72

Matthew Wright 71

Patrick Cripps 69

Billie Smedts 67

Marc Murphy 64

Rhys Palmer 63

Simon White 62

Dale Thomas 62

Jacob Weitering 62

Dennis Armfield 57

Jack Silvagni 52

Jed Lamb 49

Lachie Plowman 48

Sam Rowe 47

Levi Casboult 44

Alex Silvagni 25

Harrison Macreadie 11

    The BONT · 11/03/2017 at 10:15

    Pickett looking pretty good

      Tophawk · 11/03/2017 at 10:26

      I agree. Pickett definitely showing good signs. If named for round 1, I will probably pick him. The fact that Carlton play Richmond first in round one is also attractive. Pickett will not be listed on an extended bench had he played on Sunday. Welcome!

Zee888 · 11/03/2017 at 10:50

Coniglio or Ward? How are people feeling about these 2? i'd like to take one.. not sure which

    Abel · 11/03/2017 at 11:22

    I'm backen kelly over both. Ward between those two.

    JVC · 11/03/2017 at 11:33

    Ward

Blaknight · 11/03/2017 at 11:44

3 Premo FWD JJK or Green w/Dahl and Macrae

or

2 Premo FWD 2 of the above?

    Blaknight · 11/03/2017 at 11:45

    2 Premo FWD will give me a 6 Premo MID

      Tim · 11/03/2017 at 15:57

      2 prem fwd with 6 mid

Danny · 11/03/2017 at 11:55

please please please help
$140k left, like to have around 90 to 100 for corrective trades or a sandilands bank. I dont want to have Nank in my fwd line.

DEF
H.Shaw, T.Adams, B.Laird, C.Hampton, MiHibberd, N.Newman,
(L.Ryan, T.Stewart)

MIDS
Danger, Hanners, Trelor, Rocky, Fyfe, JOM, Taranto, W.Brodie
(J.Bowes, S.P.P., B.Parfitt)

RUCKS
Gawn, Sandi, (Strnadica)

FWDS
Dahlhaus, Chad, Billings, Roughy, R.Knight, J.Picket
(T.Miles, B.Eddy)

All comments welcome, even the abuse

    jacko · 11/03/2017 at 16:02

    Not sure about that forward line very risky for mine.

      Danny · 11/03/2017 at 17:21

      Thanks jacko but risky how? They aren't injury prone.

Blaknight · 11/03/2017 at 17:45

Been Playing around a bit whilst watching the mighty Lions!

With all this Ruck issues going on ive gone back to Martin who I had in my original team. I think he'll be a POD with only 4.7% selection and with Archie Smith not looking like getting a run in the early season, Martin will be a single ruckman. #Martilands #getonit

So far this is my team. Happy for criticism.

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Marchbank, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd (N.Newman, T.Stewart)

MID: Danger, Pendle, Selwood, Bonts, Fyfe, Beams, JOM, SPP (J.Barret, H.Wigg, T.Miles)

RUCK: Martin, Sandi (Strnadica)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Mancrevis, Tarantino, Pickett (A.Black, B.Eddy)

Thoughts/Opinions

$31700 remaining,

2-10-7-11 Byes

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