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PODCAST: Supercoach PAIN. Lest we forget.

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ONE WEEK OF JLT LEFT!

..and as is often the case at this time of year – some new Supercoach 2017 options have emerged
However.. are we forgetting the PAIN that we have experienced in seasons past? Are we heading down a familiar road that leads to carnage?
What are the traps? Who should be considered genuine contendersย in this period of extreme excitement?

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Dac Zawson

G'day community,
I don't usually post my team but would be interested to see people's thoughts

DEF: Laird, Mills, Marchbank, Hampton, VW, Stewart (Ryan, Guthrie)
MID: Hannebery, Selwood, Treloar, Bontempelli, Shuey, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara (SPP, Barrett, Hibberd)
RUC: Grundy, Sandilands (Cameron)
FOR: Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Lynch, Gunston, Black, Miles (Strnadica, Eddy)

Booma

Grundy injured his calf today, ? just a corky but might need to watch him.

Steeeve

No Danger, No Gawn, a backline that makes my skin crawl… I love it! Good luck son

Normally GnR

And just like that I notice I have Tuohy, Mills, O'meara, Swallow, Sandi, Nankervis, Roughy in the side. Normally I don't like midpricers but this year I've ended up with all these bad boys. What went wrong? I should say Mills and Nank the only two that weren't really on my radar before JLT. Is this crazy? All good players, all potential to perform. Maybe this is the midprice madness year? Or have I gone barking mad?

Normally GnR

And Beams!!! My god!

Whitey

I like Tuohy, I have posted why below. O'Meara,Beams and Swallow may be one too many in the midfield. Sandi is ok in my opinion and am assuming Nak=nk is a fwd backup to him. Roughy is a fallen premium. Mills is the only one that hasn't really proved himself SC wise. So after all that maybe two too many, try to find a rookie and upgrade another to premo

Billy

As a general rule, if they werent on your radar before the JLT then you're overreacting to their preseason form and youll get burnt.
I have 4 of the other 5, all of whom fall in the 'fallen premium' bracket. Tuohy doesn't, so I won't pick him.

hedski

Had my eye on Zac since he came in for Boris, before jlt.

Billy

That's fair enough. If the JLT confirms a pre-existing idea it can be a valid choice, just don't pluck them out of mid air.
My reason for not picking him is that his best season is an 81 average nd he costs about $450k.. don't see the value there. Worst case scenario I can pick him up at the byes for about 50k more than his starting price. Low reward and high risk selection for mine.

Clock Management

I see the podcast has been released, must be time to get a beer and some pizza

INPieman

I just closed the Tinder app

BrownlowBoy

Lubrication and tissues wouldn't go astray.

INPieman

Completely agree BB. KY & Kleenex top of the shopping list

Rivo

And what to do with Heeney now out too? Straight swap for Touk Miller?

Redgumwon

Maybe look at Higgins $426,400 and looks to be getting more midfield time? I'm going to go with him

Rivo

"Burn man" but Higgos favourite. Not sure.

Redgumwon

He's left me with burns at times as well. Looked very good so far and North need proven players to step up in the midfield after they moved on the old boys. Well worth the risk and Higgo can play when fit

Danners

Caddy or Wingard. See how Touk goes in the last week of JLT to consider him

Tony

Please help me be as harsh as you like
Rance Adams laird Hampton VW t. Strewert (hibberd smith)

Dangerfield pendles treloar Rockliff Fyfe omeara swollow Powell- pepper (j.Barrett wigg Hewlett)

Gawn Sandilands. (Strndica)

Dahlhouse macrae caddy Roughead Bolton black (eddy Cameron[ruc])

Steeeve

I have a lot of similar players, lack of ruck cover might be your main issue.

Tony

I'm hoping darcy cameron plays if he doesn't I might have to re think my forward line

JOSH K

Can I please get everyone's opinion on my current team, any constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated ๐Ÿ™‚

DEF: Adams, Laird, Vince, McGrath, Hampton, Vickers-Willis. (Stewart, Watson)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, JPK, Fyfe, Josh Kelly, D.Swallow, SPP. (Hibberd, Wigg, Jarman)
RUC: Gawn, Sandi. (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Greene, Ryder, Jarryd Roughead, Butler, Long. (Smith, Eddy)

:))))))))

Kev

McGrath hasn't shown enough to be seriously considered at that price. Watson is rookie listed, is he a chance for round 1?

BrownlowBoy

Thoughts on Matt Crouch?

Marco_Polo94

The more I analyse his stats, the missing midfielders for the early rounds, the more I'm warming to him. He's currently my M5.

BrownlowBoy

My question is whether he will be a top 10 mid come seasons finish?

Marco_Polo94

I think he'll be top 8 mids for the first 13 rounds…. ๐Ÿ˜‰

hedski

Looks like Bernard Tomic.
Not a fan of Bernie, I agree with Marco but he's my M6.
Cheers BB.

BrownlowBoy

Cheers Hedski, I'm contemplating his selection but whether he can take his game to another level and match the top premiums I'm not sure. Really want 8 of the top 10 mids in my team come seasons end, does he meet that criteria?

hedski

I'm going with Marco's thinking re early scoring, and there'll be lots of trading going on before the end. Like I said have him at M6 atm so a bit of a gamble, still very fluid.

TOMAHAWK

I've been saying that for years!! Thank u! Bernard Crouch.

SuperSarah6

In my team too Jock. Can't go passed my own teams next SC Beast!!!

Liam

Locked for me. Can see 110 plus.

Leeds17

In my team current;ly really hard yeah for a breakout contender with so many fallen premos or fallen breakouts like O'Meara and Swallow.

What I love about Crouch is he doesn't really need to improve as a footballer (though obviously that would be great and he's a chance too) he just needs to spend more time on the park, if his TOG gets up to around 88-90% he will be a genuine premium scorer

Whitey

Pure gold boys, love it each week. Ok here is my justification for Zac Tuohy…

Reason 1:
He was up against the two best SC defenders at his old club. Simpson and Docherty were beasts and were the rebounding backmen for Carlton. He never got a chance to accumulate the ball.

Reason 2:
Geelong have gone out to get him for a specific job to replace Enright. I only see Thurlow as competition for being a rebounding backmen. Ruggles burns the ball and Mackie is too long in the tooth. Taylor has gone forward, Lonergan and Henderson key position.

Reason three:
His DE is very good and he hardly misses a game.

Reason 4:
I pray to the SC gods every night that I am correct.

hedski

Amen Whitey.

Captain Risky

Plus, most who leave Carlton play better elsewhere!

Marco_Polo94

Terrific stuff lads and as always have hit the nail on the head. The only thing I'll say in defence of the mid priced madness this pre-season is the point Higgo mentioned – the clear distinction between a fallen premium and a genuine mid pricer. In my current team I have only 1 genuine mid pricer, and a few fallen premiums.

My reasoning for this is how few mid priced rookies we have. I don't want SPP as my M8 scoring me 60 each week when I could have Swallow scoring me 85+ there instead. The injury concerns are higher yes, however the lure of extra points each round is currently outweighing that. I'm leaving myself some cash in the kitty to deal with any injury problems that pop up, it certainly could go tits up but I must admit the balance of my team looks a whole lot better when I approach the season with this strategy. Loving that Goldy ownership rating btw!

Nick Wealands

Great stuff fellas, it's funny how every season we throw out the window, what punched us in the arse the previous year.
Be mainly guns and rookies for me with maximum of 2 mid price selections

Nick Wealands

I'm considering Nankervis in the forward line for coverage of the big Sandiland man, I also think he'll be a beast and will allow me to start Matty Crouch. Also thinking of settling on Swallow for some easy cash generation.
It's a long 23 round season so plenty of time to incorporate the POD's then, but for the start of the season safety is a crucial element

Nick Wealands

Technically that leaves me with 3 mid-pricers but Sandi is a genuine fallen premium and Swallow could be regarded the same

Dee

Nick what about Roughnut?

Seb

I wait for these weekly podcasts all week, so pumped to listen a bit later, I refresh the jock Reynolds website hundreds of times on a Tuesday waiting for it! Their legendary!

BrownlowBoy

Cross McCluggage off the rookie list. Injured ankle out for 3-4 weeks.

hedski

Think it was from sidestepping a contest and a poo nugget hit him..

hedski

Awesome work again fellas, trying to minimise the madness to minimal but its hard.
There'll be some crazy restructuring going on before round 1.
Current risks. Tuohy, Fyfe, Crouch, Beams, Sandi, Rough, Nank + all rookies.
P.S. I've said plenty of times that a few of these blokes won't be in my side but meh.

Kev

Fyfe (49%), Rough (39), Sandi (32) look to be popular community risks, hedski

Jib_Jib

lol Hedski don't worry I think we're all guilty of a little hypocrisy at some point through the preseason. Personally I slagged of Nankervis about a week ago, he's now nestling in comfortably at F4 for JibJibFC.

hedski

Hey Jib I think you beat me in the bbl sc gf?
Oily torso Crouch league?

Jib_Jib

Wasn't me mate

hedski

My bad was Jed's Jets.

Jib_Jib

Bloody hell that's a magnificent league name

hedski

Had Jock Higgo Patch in it, gave them a spankin!
Is only pretend to the real stuff tho.

Jordan

Perhaps Allison gets a sneak now can't see mcluggage playing the first couple of weeks

Beastiano

maybe even lyons_

CD96

Here's my team would like some feedback brain is hurting trying to find the right layout/structure.

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Vince, Hampton, T. Stewart, Vickers-Willis, (Newman, Otten)
MIDS: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Hannebery, Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Barrett, (Wiggs, Pickett, Hibberd (Nth)
RUCKS: Gawn, Sandilands, (Strnadica)
FWDS: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Higgins, Roughead, Bowes, Black, (Houston, Cameron)

107k left over still.

Dac Zawson

With the remaining cash could upgrade Vince and/or Higgins to premos that are more likely to finish Top 8 in their respective positions such as Montagna and Gunston. I've specified those two as I assume Vince and Higgins are in your team as PODs so those replacements still keep your team with a point of difference.

However, with the remaining cash you may want to make some risky decisions that may push you higher in your league/overall ranking.

CD96

I had montagna originally but an interrupted pre season had me a little worried and not worth the risk whereas sandiland is for example.

Higgins/Caddy are there because there is literally no one else I feel comfortable picking in the foward line at this stage. Anyone else that pops up that looks the good ill almost certainly upgrade the 2.

The dilemma I have with the spare cash is that I feel that if I spend it right now then it feels like I'm spending for the sake of it. could be handy at the start of the year for corrective trades.

Kev

Looking good, CD. Obviously made the call to not go with cover for Sandi, hope he pulls through

CD96

Thanks Kev, and yeah I bloody hope so. If nankervis plays well JLT 3 then I my try squeeze him in but I have never been one to have ruck cover in the fwd line. I see the reasoning behind it but I have confidence in Sandilands.

Browncow

Like the look of your team CD. Vince was on the radio this evening. Said he respected Edwards and MacLeod for going to half back late in their careers – and was happy to help out in the middle when required after spending 75% there last year.

Billy

It's a good structure mate. Most are running with heavy midfields this year.
Not much to fault really, good bye coverage and a few PODs. There's a few risks there but a bit of risk is a good thing. Well done

CD96

Cheers Billy appreciate it

I feel like there is still a piece missing so hopefully JLT 3 can potentially shine some light on that issue for me

Simon

Thoughts on my team please
Back: shaw, Adams, laird, mills, Hampton, otten. Ryan, Stewart
Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Zorko, Fyfe, omeara, swallow, pep-Powell. Barrett, wig, Pickett
Ruck: Gawn, Sandilands. Strnadica
Fwd: Dahlhaus, franklin, Roughead, Taranto, black, begley. Eddy, cameron

I have 34,700 left to spend

Kev

Like the Zorko pick, Simon. Wouldn't be surprised to see Taranto line up round 1, concerned that he can manage enough games in succession

Rolfey

Great Podcast!
I remember the pain!! lumumba.. daniel rich… however..

Supercoach is all about point value for money. I am huge guns n rookies advocate. Always have been. But this year more so then any other, we have a limitted supply of guns n rookies. Yes there will be burn man everywhere. While its important we do not forget the failed lumumba and riches out there, we must also not forget the success stories.

While picking the failed rich last year, I also selected the successful Aaron hall. The very successful Sam Docherty.
Players will breakout. Its not so much about not selecting a potential breakout player, rather just doing significant research and bloody picking the right one!!

Especially in a year where there are very little selections in the backline and forward line that I truly look at and say they are worth the coin. Even your Jack Macrae.. in a stacked doggies midfield (bont, hunter, libba, picken etc), perhaps his role has changed to play a more outside game which can translate into his supercoach average falling. Your Bernie Vince who I honestly cant see any upside in selecting. A sam docherty (dont get me wrong I am as bigger fan of this bloke as any) who has only had one year of averaging above 88 and will cost almost 600k, most likely experiencing a lot more attention which can quite certainly translate into a significant drop in price throughout the year. The truth of the matter is that we do not have the same year in year out proven premiums in our defence and forward line as we have once before.

My advise community. Do not pick a player based off of some out of the blue form. Im not saying go and fill your team with 30 midpricers because I can tell you I'd never start with more then one or two potential breakout players. Do your research. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture. But if you have a feeling on a bloke, after doing your research…

BLOODY BACK THE BLOKE IN!! IF WE ARE GONNA SIT AROUND PICKING 30 SAFE PICKS THEN WHERES THE FIGHT!!
DONT BE SCARED!
BACK YOURSELVES IN COMMUNITY!!!!

Rolfey

Cheers Jock love your work!!

ruckmansYEAR

good call. well written. gunna have a couple more midys than yourself but as you said, back in the research you've done and ride the wave.

Tommo09

Replacement for Isaac Heeney?
Can afford anyone
Have Dahl, Lynch and Rough as "premos"

BrownlowBoy

Macrae or Roo

Jib_Jib

Maybe Buddy if you're up for the ride?

Lazza

With Mitchell at WCE the mid-filed will be streaming forward – I'd be looking at JJK. If you can find the extra $100k.
Alternatively, with Heeney out, Taranto is looking likely and will give you $225K cash back to upgrade another possie to a premium.

Not a problem for me … like Mc Lugg & Grath ….. Heeney & Mills don't offer value .. none are in my team.

Derek

Mills offers alot of value.

Compare his price to Docherty & Simmo. save $170k. say that converts to 34pts (i divide the dollars by $5k per point). If Docherty or Simmo score 120pts (unrealistic i know), Mills only need to score 86 to match the dollar investment. i like that sort of value.

Derek

the $170k saved will get you a Grundy instead of the Nank!

Tommo09

Heeney is in my fwd line

Danners

Caddy or Wingard are viable options around the same price

Shake n bake

Higgins.

Timchief

Thoughts on my team this far. As usual its change significantly daily.

Backs
Doc, laird, Adams, Hampton, evw, Stewart, ryan, hibbard

Mids
Danger, jpk, treloar, coniglio, Fyfe, mitchell, o'meara, spp, Brodie, Barrett, brown (Coll)

Rucks
Gawn, sandi, stnadica

Forwards
Roo, Macrae, nank, thomas, shoey, Pickett, miles, eddy.

O'meara and sandi should appreciate.
Nank for ruck cover. Rookies to change as season starts.

Billy

Don't mind it, similar to mine. I don't like having the ruck cover for Sandi personally. If he gets injured then just trade him don't stuff around by keeping him on the bench and wait for his giant 34 year old body to heal. Ask yourself if you'd pick Nank if he was FWD only. I wouldn't personally, but if you would then back him in.
Not sure about Thomas either. I haven't followed his preseason much tbh but I havent heard much about him so I think he'd be a long shot to play early. Save yourself 70k with a cheaper rook.

Gawdk

What do we reckon with the floating zero for the start of the season? I like the idea of Myers to start on the bench save a trade to have to get him in later. Or just go a that freo $102,000 mid or no floating 0 at the start?

Love a discussing, cheers

Billy

Nah Myers won't play until about Round 4, which means his price won't go up till Round 6, by which time another cow could make you $100-150k then you can trade him in.
Currently I have Strnadica at F8 for the 0 and Preuss in at R3.
Floating donut is important imo, getting your captain right is vital

Derek

Has to have DPP

Moustachio

Decent idea, am considering myself. Minor problem is that Myers can't be used to loop Danger in R2 vs nth.

The BONT

What is all the fuss about Matt Crouch is there something i missed

Nick

He averaged 110 in the second half of the season, and the crows midfield is very slim with injuries at the moment

Jib_Jib

Crows also have a really soft start to the year with lots of home games against weaker opposition.

Normally GnR

He averaged 104 second half of 2016.

Clokey

Gday Bont. If you had have asked the same question this time last year almost everyone here would have told you that he was the slow brother and would never be as good Brad, every team I posted with Matt was laughed at.
All the love for matt this year is just making up for all the hate last year. He's still not a top 20 mid though

Lazy Susan

Any mail on whether both Saints rucks will start? If not I'm genuinely considering starting Sandi and Longer. And yes…I have lost the plot.

JDP

Wingard or Caddy
Can the community please help with my uncertainty…….

Holty

Wingard proved on the weekend he will go missing in games. Seems he loses interest from time to time which isnt good when playing for Port who will struggle this year. Caddy seems to be enjoying his new club. Not in my team but apart from injury, cant see him letting you down

crowls

Got to go Caddy. Wingard is all over the place. Caddy will be in the guts all year at Richmond easy to see him improving 5 points on last year which will make him a top 5-6 fwd.

Seb

Thoughts on Ainsworth?

Jib_Jib

Good job security. Limited scoring potential. Expensive.

Danners

Better options around that price. Could nearly $100k and get a cheaper rookie

The Ranger

Great podcast lads, very timely warnings re the mid price/injury madness, it always happens around this time of year.
I'll be sticking with 13 keepers (3,5,2,3) plus Roughie and Swallow and maybe one guess at a breakout contender.
Injuries are always a killer, last years winner had to make seven injury trades and that was without having a load of injury risk to start with.

Zee888

anyone else avoid putting FLOGS in their team? Hate barracking for 'em. Sorry Selwood but there's just no room for ya mate- flogometer off the charts.

Cr0magn0n

As in Joel Selwood?

Loop

I'm assuming you're talking about the speeding. Do you have a licence? I challenge you to not go over the speed limit when you overtake another car.

Kev

I have enough trouble not going over the speed at all, Loop :p

BrownlowBoy

Avoid him at your peril

Burnmen

Flogometer off the charts reading your post.

Moustachio

No, because I want to win SC, not go to their birthday party.

James

Instead of starting swallow is at a pod selection to start with libberatore or just a waste of coin

Holty

If liba gets back to his best, could be a great pick. But the bulldogs game plan has changed which is more open. Liba loves the contested ball in tight. Unless their gameplan changes, cant see him get back to that 110+ input

crowls

Thoughts on Mills.
I have him at D3 atm. Not really comfortable with it. Whilst heeney is out he may get mid time and score ok. But realistically as second year player I see him as high 70 low 80 avg for the year. Got 40K to spend as well as trade him out. Options are Touhy, possible large increase if plays enrights role.
Others Jake lloyd, Hamish Hartlett and Jamie McMillan. I quite like LLoyd as a POD and McMillan could step up this year. Really dont think any of them will make top 10 defenders though. Maybe Touhy could

John James

I have Toughy at D3 and Mills D4 and am very comfortable with it.

Moustachio

Lloyd > Mills

Derek

I have a riddle for everyone……

What is the difference between The Nank and TBC of 2015?

…………. nothing!

Oh the pain, the pain…..

Browncow

Thanks for the reminder Derek. I had blocked out the TBC experience!

SuperSarah6

Didn't fall for TBC, not falling for The Nank!
Has played no-one so far. A sore Jacobs and a Ryder coming back after 12 months off… hardly of Gawn or Goldstein quality.
Be interested to see how he goes against Grundy this week… although he's got a corked calf so the jury may remain out.
Another factor to consider is that they were games 1 and 2 of the preseason. He's at a new club trying to prove himself, playing against established players who are going at half pace… it all stinks of burn man to me!

Burnmen

The difference is I'd consider Nank but never TBC?

Pinger

To compare Nank to TBC of 2015 is shortsighted & blinded by the pain that was inflicted on those that picked him.

In 2015 injury "riddled" TBC played no preseason games & was caught up in the full throws of the Essendon supplements saga.

As it is a riddle you may have to look further for the answer.

Nank reminds me more of a beast known as "The Mummy". If you look to the year 2010 & then compare these two it may become clearer.

I am not saying pick Nank but I wouldn't discard him completely. He actually may be the one that helps ease the pain that still cuts deep.

Derek

very good points.

I think that most people are picking the Nank purely on the DPP status. That is the only reason TBC was picked back in 2015.

If you can see somthing else in the bloke that would suggest he is worth picking up on ability alone, then go for it. i can't see it.

the big thing going for him is he doesn't have alot of competition for his place, but a few bad games and that could all change.

If fact hunt

Saw the Nani live on the weekend. He got killed at the centre bounces when Ryder was in there. Can only complete with lessor ruckman

Burnmen

Really? Got killed? That sounds alarming for anyone that picked him.

The Ranger

Can anyone remember there ever being a breakout ruckman?

Rick Grimes

Gawn, Martin?

Burnmen

He is only 22. Breakout is possible. DPP is also tempting. Can see the attraction.

Steeeve

Great stuff as always legends! Can't avoid the madness at the moment! Would love any feedback…
Back: Shaw, Rance, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Hibberd (Vickers-Willis, Guthrie)
Mid: Danger, Bont, Fyfe, T Mitch, Beams, OMeara, D Swallow, Powell-Pepper (Brodie, Barrett, Wigg)
Ruck: Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughy, Nanscrevis, Pickett, Long (Eddy, Black)
$40,000 in the warchest…

Bluebaggers

I like this team, balanced in each line.

Steeeve

Thanks mate! Feels heavy in defence but hopefully I can set and forget there, upgrade only two spots for Doherty and whoever else is putting their hand up.

The Ranger

I can see ya reasoning but I'm not sure about going to D4 in the def line this year Steeeve.
There's some decent rookies in the def line and you don't wanna be short on cash generation.

Steeeve

I have made a change. Think I like it…
Shaw OUT. Will be had for a cheaper price and may be targeted by forward-line taggers.

O'Meara and Swallow BOTH OUT. Cripps and Matt Crouch IN.

Crouch and Swallow

Nanscrevis or Wanknervous??

Snowsky

Jeremy Howe?

Take a look at the back end of last year, plus good JLT form, plus he is durable…

Yet I have seen him in not a single team…

Holty

Few of us talked about him in last few posts. Ive had him since the start.

JustAmug

Same, expecting a solid year

Lazza

For me it is Howe vs Adams … Going with Adams. (I tend not to have multiple players from the same team across each line until after the bye rounds). Ig Adams goes down … then I will move Howe in.

Shaken bake

great selection

Dave2008

Current team with Sandi below. Big decision I think for a lot of people is whether to go with him (risk v reward) or the set and forget Gawn and Goldy.

D Doc Laird Adams Hampton Vickers-Willis Ryan Stewart Williamson
M Danger Pendles Hannaberry Fye T Mitchell Omeara D Swallow SPP Pickett HIbberd Drew
R Gawn Sandi Strnadica
F N Roo MacRae Dalihaus Roughy Black Dear Hulet Eddy

Some rookies are just place holders…Hulet Williamson Drew. No back up for Sandi as I dont like any GC or Port players until after the RD 9 bye (D Swallow the exception as where are the mid rookies?)

J Steven Treloar Drew Goldi Caddy

or
Pendles Hannaberry D Swallow Sandi N Roo

Webspyda

T Adams, R Laird, C Mills, A McGrath, C Hampton, A Otten. E VW, T Stewart

R Dangerfield, A Treloar, N Fyfe, D Beams, D Parish, J O'Meara, D Swallow, T Taranto. S PP, J Barret, M Hibberd

M Gawn, A Sandilands. B Preuss

N Riewoldt, L Dahlhaus, J Macrae, J Roughhead, T Nankervis, C McCarthy. R Shoenmakers, D Cameron

John James

I wouldn't have McGrath as D4 and your Mids could use one better quality player,I like to have at least 4 locks there.

Cr0magn0n

Does anyone have the good oil on which Sydney rookie/s, if any, might get their chance in light of Heeney's illness?

poloko48

Report on Swans website saying Melican a big chance to debut

Moustachio

What. Who the f*** is that ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

poloko48

$123K DEF, check rookie spreadsheet, from memory has done OK.

Dee

haha Moustachio…. it's a bit like that isn't it mate.

poloko48

Righto, have restructured just slightly to see how Nankilands looks. Have been able to bring in Matt Crouch (Mouch) instead of a rookie so MIDS look pretty decent:

DEF: Simpson, Heater, Silk, Hampton, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Guthrie)
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, TeenWolf, Prestia, Mouch, JOM, SPP (Barrett, Wigg, Allison)
RUC: Nank, Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahl, Buddy, Macrae, Roughy, Bowes, Pickett (Begley, Eddy)

I still have $106K left over to help if Nank doesn't work out or Sandy falls over his toe.

Thoughts?

John James

You may laugh but who is TeenWolf.

Steven

Kinda new to this fellas just wondering what yas reckon about my team
Def.
Shaw laird howe hampton mcgrath Stewart ( vwe & newman)
Mid.
Danger hannebery treloar coniglio prestia jager brodie powell ( florent, myers, picklet )
Ruck
Gawn sandi ( cameron )
Fwd
Macrea t.greene nank taranto cluggage schoenmakers ( dear and maynard

Steven

Ps. Got 350000 in the bank

BlakeyP

Clug has gone down with injury. 350k is alot in the bank maybe use the money to upgrade Clug to a premium Fwd which pushes Nank to F4 which is a lot better spot for him. Like the DEF but dont think McGrath will warrant his price tag downgrade to cheaper rookie. Do you Believe Prestia will be top 10 mid? If not he is not worth the pick and an upgrade to a top 10 would be better.
Thanks Blake

Kev

Love the Howe pick! Huge POD.

Taranto shown plenty preseason but doubts are there over the likelihood of him getting enough successive games

Rivo

Help please.
Miller & Black or Naknkervis & Ainsworth?

SuperSarah6

Definitely not Ainsworth. He won't score enough points as a small forward to make enough cash to warrant selection.
Miller and Black for me.

Rivo

Thanks! Been struggling with this one since Heeney went down. Miller a risk still but has capacity to average 90. Love Nankervis but still not sure he will do the same – time will tell.

Danners

Nankervis + rookie + $100k would be better

Rivo

Thanks Danners. Still not sold on Nankervis. Which rookie to go with him? Already have Taranto, Eddy, Miles (M10) and Cameron (F7).

Jack

Been changing my team around. Would like peoples thoughts or advice

def – adams – laird – vince – hampton – otten – willis – (stewart – smith)
mid – dangerfiels – ablet -pendilbury – kennedy – selwood – fyfe – omeara – spp (barret – wigg – miles)
ruck – sandi – nank (preus)
fwd – dahl – mcrae – caddy – petracca – black – houten ( eddy – cammeron)

Rivo

Like most picks here except rucks. You need Gawn or Goldy at R1. Petraca a risk at F4 though most are in that spot. Nank a much safer option at F4/5 but still a risky pick.

BrownlowBoy

First team I've seen with Gaz in it, ownership will jump massively if he tears it up this week in the JLT

Woody

I have had Gaz from day 1… im hoping he does stink it up…:)

Derek

4 mid pricers

only 1 (sandi) is a fallen premium.

the odds of non fallen premium mid pricers doing well are very low. Having 3 out of 4, you are stacking the odds massively against yourself.

THE NANK

how to I find out how many teams a player is in

Colby

Click on players name

BrownlowBoy

Players then coaches choice

Winter

DEF: Docherty, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Sloane, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, SPP (Wigg, Pickett, Hibberd)
RUC: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: JJK, Dahlhaus, Roughy, Nankervis, Black, Eddy (Pickett, Cameron)
20k left

Have a fair few mid prices but idk who I'd cut out?

HoleyFrijoles

Maybe one of the Picketts ๐Ÿ˜‰

Steve

Im just about convinced on bringing in Matty Crouch community. Only problem is with my current structure I can only fit him in at M6 which is currently occupied by a Nathaniel Fyfe.

Bring in Crouch and pocket the cash or stay with a discounted Fyfe that is very likely to go down?

Im already picking JOM, Swallow in the mids so Crouch could be a good pick to also offset some risk.

All thoughts and feelings appreciated community!

HoleyFrijoles

Fyfe is the most selected player for a reason. He will be a top 3 average if he stays on the park. If you really want Crouch it shouldn't be at the expense of the Fyfenator

Burnmen

Agree

Moustachio

If you are even entertaining Crouch over Fyfe, you have suffered some kind of cortical overload. Reset immediately.

Seb

Changed my team around a bit to make it a bit more unique,

DEF: Shaw, rance, mills, Hampton, VW, otten (Stewart, Guthrie)

MID: danger, hannberry, treloar, Fyfe,titch, crouch, swallow, SPP( Myers, Barrett, wiggs)

RUC: Gawn, sandy (preuss)

FWD: dahl, ,McRae, Gunston, roughy, black, Houston (strandica, eddy)

Bye round 13 is a problem for me.
20k in the bank
Would love to hear your thoughts, cheers

Kev

Looks good, Seb. Assume Str is your F7 for loophole purposes.

Have another look at Rance. You don't want your premo's having injury interrupted preseasons.

Sana

Can anyone give me their reasons not to pick Zorko?

One game below 86 all season in 2016 is solid. Will Beams stuff him up?

Burnmen

Will make a good upgrade target once he's lost up to 100K?

Sana

Possibly. Be good to get a decent look at the effect Beams has on him

Sana

Obviously if he dropped as much as 100K you'd proibably lose interest…

Danners

Beams is back, was drafted as a mature aged. Last season was his first season of 105+ (only averaged 100+ twice). There are better options around

Toddgood1

Need help have 160 k left
Backs: Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Scharenberg, Hampton, Hibberd ( Newman, Stewart)
Mids: Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, Zorko, Beams , Omera, Swallow, A.McGrath ( SPP, Barret, Pickett)
Rucks: Gawn,Sandi (Preuss)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Roughead, Nankervis, Bowes, Gallucci ( Black, Bolton)

Kev

Shaz hasn't really caught the eye. Plenty of backline rooks to chose from.

M5-7 makes me nervous. All 3 had LTI problems.

Gallucci unlikely I reckon. Few ahead of him at the Crows. Dimma has said Bolton is developing with other draftees and is unlikely for round 1

hedski

Turn Zorko into Danger

Joe

Thoughts??

$113k remaining

DEF: Doch Laird Adams Hampton Hibberd Ryan (VW Stewart)
MID: Danger JPK Treloar Fyfe T.Mitchell Crouch Swallow SPP (Barrett Wigg Miles)
RUC: Gawn Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus Lynch Caddy Bowes Black Pickett (Long Eddy)

Kev

Looks solid, Joe. Maybe Cameron for Long (who will miss first 2 rounds anyway) for a little bit of insurance for Sandi. Especially if Cameron plays round 1

rahog

very nice looking team there mate. I cant really pick anywhere that I would change. good work!

Derek

Yep. Now wait for rookies.

rahog

hey all, not long to go now, cant wait for the 2017 season.. 6 months is soo long to wait haha. Anyway, please help me with some friendly advice with my team, pick it apart, criticize it, anything that will help me be ready for Round 1. Also – I cant help myself with adding Jack Riewoldt in, biased and one eyed but hoping might be a random point of difference ๐Ÿ˜›

DEF: Docherty. Rance. Laird. RMurphy. Vickers-Willis. Newman. (Stewart. Guthrie)
MID: Dangerfield. Pendlebury. Bontempelli. Fyfe. T.Mitchell. D.Beams. D.Swallow. SPP. (Barrett. Jarman(for dpp). Fox)
RUCK: Nankervis. Sandilands. (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus. Macrae. JRiewoldt. Roughead. Hoskin-Elliot. Black. (DCameron. Eddy)

Thanks guys I appreciate it.

rahog

I am thinking of swapping Hoskin-Elliot for Taranto?

Whitey

good idea, also think Murphy might be slow to start the year after his knee.

rahog

Thanks Whitey… any other advice mate?

Derek

Great Podcast Jock.

Oh the pain…the pain. You made me go back and look at what has caused me the most pain over the last 3 years….i didn't sleep very well last night.

The Midpricers – TBC, Lobbe, BCrouch, Wingard, Cloke, Suckling, Newnes, Rich, BSmith, the Bitz, Motlop,Trengrove, Griffin. aaarrrgh.

The injured premiums – Rocky, Barlow, Delidio, Ablett, Sloane, Parker, Hodge, NicNat, Mcveigh

I really liked what Higgo said about the good choices is because of Skill, the poor choices were because of bad luck…. the above list represents alot of bad luck ๐Ÿ˜‰

Looking at my team, i can already see some "Bad Luck" just waiting to happen.

Adams, Mills, Sandilands, Cyril, Swallow.

Although, i have seen plenty of teams with alot more "bad luck" than mine ๐Ÿ˜‰

Thinking for changing Adams & Mills to Simmo and Shaw. Swallow to a rookie. Stick with Cyril & sandi.

what do you reckon fellas, thanks fellas..

Rivo

Hi Derek.

1. Shaw and Simmo a safer bet, but hang onto Swallow if you can.
2. Sandi worth the punt, provided you have a Gawn/Goldy as R1.
3. Cyril a gem but injuries may limit his output. What about Caddy/Greene?

If you have starting premo 3,5,1,3 then the above makes sense.

Derek

Thanks Rivo. Would keep Mills ahead of Swallow if I could.

I think Cyril will be ok. Club have done a lot with him over last 2 years and it has paid off. Only missed a couple of games last year because of his grandfather' death. Had a full preseason, first for 6 years and was nominated by club staff as the most improved during offseason. Elevated to leadership group this year. Prime of his life after career best in 2016. All Australian last year. Will get more midfield this year, has the big blokes back to crumb from and the changes to rushed behinds will have him licking his lips. I think I just talked myself into him ๐Ÿ˜‰

Rivo

Agreed. I want to pick Cyril too just reading all that!

BlakeyP

After that spill I would be keeping him to. Big POD

Liam

I have had some bad luck with injuries as well Derek,but at the end of the day we have 30 trades.

I think its worth having a few guys like JOM,Swallow, Beams, Gaj,Adams they will average well and they could quite easily play the whole year, who knows.

I have Mills as well and think he is a fairly safe bet to average 95 off half back and mid.

Derek

one thing that stood out from the winner last year was his early season premium correction trades.
thanks liam.

Sana

We can't resist a potential steal mate, human nature. The only way to avoid it entirely is to pay top dollar. Even then bad luck could rear its ugly head.

I know I'm asking for it yet again this year! arrrghh!

Derek

most of the mid pricers were self inflicted pain.

the injuries to premiums, some are just bad luck (Sloane's face), but alot of the other ones, Rocky, Delidio, Hodge, Rocky, Ablett, we saw it coming. Not making that mistake again……. as much as i have before.

H-Lee

hey all its H. thoughts between gunston and mccarthy or rough and nank

Rivo

Rough & Nank

Danners

At the moment, Gunston and McCarthy. If Nank does well enough next week, maybe him and Rough

hedski

Was pondering Higgos thoughts on our def rookies looking like lining up in a lot of late games round one.
Can you imagine if Danger and Fyfe were both late withdrawals last game Sunday???? Carnage.

Zee888

The only thing worth taking into account is that everyone would effected by this

Derek

there are unlimited trades in the first week during the rolling lockout.

INPieman

What if Sandi is a late withdrawal. A playing R3 if available might be a good idea

hedski

Indeed.

hedski

I know Derek but they are the last game of round one, was talking late late (roll the ankle in warm up), highly unlikely but purely hypothetical.

Derek

SMitch did that to me a couple of years back. Late out Sunday but I had already used my E for the C loophole. Fat donut week 2. With Ellis youman on bench scoring 100. The pain…