SuperCoach Rookie Cheat Sheet v2
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158 Comments
Ben · 02/03/2017 at 11:44
Cheers uncle Jock
Lets hope a few more put there hand up.
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 14:35
You're very welcome Benny
Soothsayer · 02/03/2017 at 12:27
Thanks Jock, a great service to the community as always. there are so many maybe's floating around that its hard to settle on too many this year, I hate the thought of everyone stuffing in the same rookies.
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 14:36
Cheers Soothy – always my extreme pleasure.
Steve · 02/03/2017 at 12:37
My team V1078 and v 1079
I have changed that much and gonna post the two I will probably run with and would like some feed back in helping me select one
Def-
Docherty, laird, Adams
Hampton, keefe, Vickers-Wills
Bench- Ryan, Stewart
Mid-
Danger, JPK, treleor, ward
Fyfe, t.mitchell, o'meara, Powell pepper
Bench- Pickett, wigg, Hibberd
Ruck-
Gawn, Sandilands
Strandica
Fwds-
Dahlhaus, caddy, Roughead
Mccluggage, Bowes, black
Bench- Cameron, eddy
Option 2
Def-
Docherty, shaw, laird
Marchbank, Hampton, vicker willis
Bench- Ryan, Stewart
Mid-
Danger, Pendles, jpk, Fyfe
T. Mitchell, O'meara, swallow, Brodie
Bench-
Powell- pepper, picket, Hibberd
Ruck
Gawn, goldy
Standica
Fwd
McRae, Dahlhaus, Roughead
Bowes, mccgluggage, black
Bench- eddy, McKay
Cheers guys !
Randomcliche2 · 02/03/2017 at 12:59
I'm with Jordan below, option 2 looks bit more reliable.
Tyruddanaut · 02/03/2017 at 21:30
Option 2 mate but a week ago I would've said option 1
INPieman · 02/03/2017 at 12:41
No Luke Ryan again. Why did he have to fall into the hands of Ross!!!! I really hate that man
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 12:48
Un. Be Bloody. Leivable. ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
INPieman · 02/03/2017 at 12:58
Next time ya see him mate can you give him a love tap with a crowbar for me
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 13:04
I've had a gutful mate. An absolute gutful. My wrath will reign down upon him like nobodies business.
OldOcker · 03/03/2017 at 01:54
He will probably be produced in game 1 without JLT games.
SCaddict · 02/03/2017 at 13:21
Quickly shaping up as the Matty Fuller defensive rookie "lock" of 2017! 🙂
Assuming he's not carrying a niggle we don't know about then Rossy clearly doesn't rate him, if he twice can't even make a squad of 29.
INPieman · 02/03/2017 at 13:42
He's left Griffin Logue out as well who is another surprise. That was his pick 7 from the last draft that was "ready made" & a round 1 certainty. But there is no such thing as certainty with Ross. Prick
Luskin Star · 02/03/2017 at 14:51
You can add to the Do's and Don'ts of SC, 'Dont pick rookies coached by Ross no matter how good they are'
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 17:22
SP Collins
Jordan · 02/03/2017 at 12:44
I like option 2 better spread and a little more safer
Benchwarmers · 02/03/2017 at 13:02
Great job again Jock, see how may more rise to the surface in next few weeks.
Just a question for the Community re the other forward listed Pies, beside the good Will hunting you listed in the sheet, Josh Thomas and Jamie Elliott, do we see them as best 22, and if so, what sort of average do we think they'll maintain?
Thomas is basically at a high priced rookie valuation ($190k) and Elliott getting up to that mid-price danger zone ($290k), just trying different forward set-ups, seeing how things look. Thoughts Community?
Kev · 02/03/2017 at 13:19
Thomas needs elevation off the rookie list first. Been named for Saturday so good chance to get a look. Been out of the game for a while.
Elliot needed a flawless preseason to make me take notice. Ankle issues have put me off
Benchwarmers · 02/03/2017 at 13:25
Good to know Kev, thanks mate.
INPieman · 02/03/2017 at 14:46
Josh Thomas is interesting. He's priced at half of what he's capable of. He's a 75 type player. So he's half price. But the question is can he get off the rookie list & into the best 22 again. He has to be a chance. I'm sure it won't take long for Wells to be on the LTI list & Thomas gets upgraded
SCaddict · 02/03/2017 at 13:44
Yeah Elliott seems the classic midpriced trap unfortunately. Attractively discounted with a flashy game that can certainly rack up some juicy SC points on his day so I can appreciate the appeal.
But with a modified preseason and now this latest ankle injury setback (however minor) you'd be playing with fire to go there I'd say. Might come off but could also badly crash and burn too.
Luskin Star · 02/03/2017 at 14:58
I was sweating on Thomas but have gone a little cold. On his past performances he is a steal at the price but did get a lot of midfield time in the past and that is in doubt now. I'm not picking him regard.ess of what he does in Jlt. If i see him get good mid time in a full strenth Pies team when they are p.aying for 4 points i will bring him in.prepared to spend a corrective trade on it.
Benchwarmers · 03/03/2017 at 14:35
Good point re % of mid time he might get as the Pies do have a fairly deep midfield now, thanks Luskin.
Tom · 02/03/2017 at 13:33
G'day community, need some help with my team. I've to much cash left over at the moment, $180,800 to be exact.
Here's my team:
DEF: K.Simpson, R.Laird, B.Houli, M.Hibberd(Melbs), E.Vickers-Willis, C.Hampton
Bench: T.Stewart, L.Ryan
MID: S.Pendlebury, D.Hannerbery, T.Mitchell, N.Fyfe, D.Heppell, H.McCluggage, W.Brodie, M.Hibberd(North)
Bench: S.Power-Pepper, H.Wigg, J.Graham
RUCK: T.Goldstein, B.Grundy
Bench: L.Stranadica
FOWARD: L.Dahlhaus, T.Lynch(GCS), I.Heeney, J.Roughead, A.Black, B.Eddy
Bench: D.Cameron, B.Parfitt
Feel like my backs and mids are bit weak and need more fwd suggestion so any comments will be appreciated.
Kev · 02/03/2017 at 13:43
Houli been struggling all preseason with his hammy. Has a history of them going twang. Avoid.
Cash can be used to turn Goldy into Gawn. There are more and more question marks hanging over his head every few days. Or get Danger into your team.
Luskin Star · 02/03/2017 at 15:14
I would t downgrade Houli, i would upgrade. If you downgrade you wind up with 4 rookie priced players on gield in defence.
Tyruddanaut · 02/03/2017 at 21:35
I don't feel good about heppell so maybe downgrade to Watson or omeara then you can also get gawn gor goldylocks
Houli is a strange player but maybe a good POD
Also need work on F6
Crowls · 02/03/2017 at 13:45
Strengthen the mids. I would drop houli to def rookie and upgrade Wigg or Graham to JPK. Jelwood, Danger etc.
Tofor85 · 02/03/2017 at 13:58
Hey there all,
First post for the year here. Just finished up getting my SC Draft league done. Anyone here play that?
So finally turned my attention to SC Classic and pieced together a team.
I recognise my mid may be a fraction light and/or more-so, 'risky'.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
DEF: Docherty, T Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Stewart, (Newman, Ryan)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, TMitch, Beams, JOM, D Swallow, McCluggage (Powell-Pepper, Wigg, Miles)
RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Wingard, Roughhead, Nankervis, McCarthy, Black (Eddy, Bolton)
SCaddict · 02/03/2017 at 14:16
Like the Titch and Wingard picks and believe both have a realistic shot at being a top 10 player in their position this season or at the very least will be a solid M8/F6 come SC finals. In fact we have nearly the identical forward line right now although I'm also expecting to be roll with Heeney too, who is being managed tomorrow which suits me to a T, out of sight out of mind.
Yes will be playing draft as well so will look to create a league in another fortnight or so which I will invite other interested JR members to join.
Tofor85 · 02/03/2017 at 16:08
Thanks for the feedback. Might squeeze a Heeney in myself. Like the idea of a RUC/FWD swing option.. and figured a Ryder, Lycett or Nank as #1 at the Tigers might be worth it?? Even Boyd?! Hmm..
Yeah, love the Draft game, it's good fun. Fourth year running one. Most games I find are incredibly tight though, decided by 50 points or so…
SCaddict · 02/03/2017 at 16:45
Nah I wouldn't change your side just to force Heeney in there, your current side looks excellent as it is. He's far from a certainty to be a top 10 forward anyway but I'm likely to roll the dice on him and see what happens.
Also have Nank although need to see the Tiges remaining JLT games before locking him in. Seems to offer excellent value especially if Hampson isn't also named for Rd1. FWD/Ruck cover could prove handy later in the season and that Rd12 bye is a nice little bonus.
However to ultimately be worth it he would need to score a bare minimum 85 and preferably 90 plus. You also couldn't say his JS is iron clad particularly if he has a couple of poor games. But he does seem a good option right now.
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 17:27
Why do you have Nank? As cover? Nah!
Tyruddanaut · 02/03/2017 at 21:37
Mid risky? Try forwards. Too many mifpricers in one position
Zee888 · 02/03/2017 at 14:16
Any interest in Libba out there?
SCaddict · 02/03/2017 at 14:35
Currently owned by less than 3% so the answer to that is pretty much nope.
At nearly $500K he's no longer the enticing stepping stone he was last season at $340K. So you'd really need to believe he has a shot at cracking 110 this season to go with him, as if he only improves that average to say 95-100 it's not really good enough for M8 material for most seasoned coaches.
Jordan · 02/03/2017 at 14:36
Hurt him for a while but realised Dalhouse macrae and him could be a little excessive… but then again if it suits ur scructure he could be a great pod this season!
Jordan · 02/03/2017 at 14:36
Had*
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 17:44
Would consider in a different year, but too much competition in my midfield this year. Think he will easily go 105 in his second year back from acl.
Big Daz · 03/03/2017 at 19:33
No value there.
Madpie Tyrrell · 02/03/2017 at 14:27
Love your work Jock,you've saved my lemonade & sars many a time
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 14:28
Very welcome Mad!
Madpie Tyrrell · 02/03/2017 at 14:29
Oh..thoughts on Josh Thomas?
INPieman · 02/03/2017 at 15:15
See above comments
Cliffy · 02/03/2017 at 14:58
Cheers Jock for this, great content once again.
Noticed that Joel Smith from Dees isn't on this cheat sheet for Defense, what are your thought after his 2 JLT games Jock and community? Cheers
Cliffy · 02/03/2017 at 14:59
**Thoughts
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 15:20
One of the blokes I would have stuffed in if I had another few slots mate – if he makes 22 he's an option
gator59 · 02/03/2017 at 15:06
Thanks for this Jock, Great work mate.. This is more useful than Mrs Crouchings rusty wok!!
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 16:34
Welcome son! Funny – I don't mind Mrs Crouching's beef n black bean. Don't mind that rusty tinge to the thing. Good POD.
OldOcker · 03/03/2017 at 02:46
What position does Mrs Crouching play? More importantly Higgo seems set with Cathy and the Church of the Holy SuperCoach Gods.
Cathy must be a lovely lady and I hope mother approves.
If not you know who to contact hahahaaaaaa.
Geoff · 02/03/2017 at 15:39
Thanks Jock! Really helpful stuff.
Can I have some tips on my team. Cheers
Still can't decide whether to drop a midpricer in the fwd line to a rookie and upgrade a rookie in the back to Mills
Def: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-willis, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)
Mid: Dangerfield, Treloar, Fyfe, T.Mitchell, Watson, O'meara, Swallow, Brodie (SPP, Miles, Hibberd)
Ruc: Gawn, Sandilands (Strndica)
Fwd: Dalhaus, Caddy, Wingard, Ryder, Roughead, Black (Pickett, Eddy)
Big H · 02/03/2017 at 17:07
drop a foward to rook then upgrade jobe good team otherwise
The BONT · 02/03/2017 at 17:02
Love the Article Jock how many of those rookies do you have in your team?
Steve · 02/03/2017 at 17:21
Cheers for the article Jock – will be waiting with bated breath to see how the rookies go for the rest of the JLT!
Had a question for the community regarding bye round structure.
Currently my midfield is looking like; Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Shuey, Fyfe, JOM, Swallow – which means I should at most have 2 midfield keepers out of the team per bye round (assuming I upgrade JOM to someone like Robbie Gray)
Would it be such a bad idea to get in Treloar instead of Rocky? He should provide more games and more consistent scores, but is it worth having him in if I'll have Pendles, Treloar and Fyfe out for Round 13?
Any thoughts appreciated!
Big Daz · 03/03/2017 at 19:34
What's your back and forward line looking like ?
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 17:46
Bailey Rice DEF having a game. Was a top pick last year before getting glandular fever. Hope he does well.
Crows are playing the rookie brigade. Kelly, Knight, Wigg, Jarmsn, Himmelberg, Hampton, gallucci, Gore, hunter all playing. Will be watching very closely especially as Cats have strong team listed.
Jib_Jib · 02/03/2017 at 23:25
Finally Gallucci!
The Ranger · 02/03/2017 at 17:49
Hey Jock, not sure if anyone else is having this problem but for the last few days not all the pages are appearing on the home page?
I have to come to the Supercoach 2017 page to find this one and the JJ one.
Normally they all appear on the home page I think.
SCaddict · 02/03/2017 at 17:58
Yeah I've noticed this too this season Ranger and have made mention of it a couple of times. Would often have to go to Jock's twitter feed to access the latest content.
Not a major drama but it might mean that some folks miss out on some of the excellent articles here if they are only refreshing the home page. Sometimes they don't even show up on the Supercoach 2017 page either or drop off mysteriously.
Might be a database indexing issue of some sort??
Kev · 02/03/2017 at 19:18
I've noticed this too boys. Usually I just refresh the page and I'm all good
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 19:40
Same
Maybe there is just TOO much information for the internet to take. Jock might have busted the web!
gator59 · 03/03/2017 at 15:33
Having trouble too guys!!
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 17:46
Is this on mobile? I think some mobile browsers are only showing the left hand side of the page. So sometimes when a new article is published, you can suddenly see a bunch of old ones you missed.
Sauce · 02/03/2017 at 18:25
Jock, Wayno better be coming back with his segment mate!
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 19:42
+1
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 17:47
-1
Ok fellas thanks fellas
The BONT · 02/03/2017 at 18:56
Is Curly Hampton a MUST????
Kev · 02/03/2017 at 19:16
He's in my team and D4 is his to lose. Nice score from limited touches tough to look past that at his price.
Danners · 02/03/2017 at 21:28
Not a must, but should be high on the radar. Only played 1 game
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:53
Will be a must if named round one I reckon, with Lyons now gone, brad C, seedsman and cam ellis injured. Sloane possibly out too. They are going to need his speed.
Jib_Jib · 02/03/2017 at 23:27
Agree. If named rd1 he will be a great cheap pickup, mature body, expected mid time, 160k. D4 in my side is his to lose.
GAZZAS FAT WALLET · 02/03/2017 at 19:20
Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Vickers, Newman Stewart, Guthrie
Danger, JPK, Treloar, Rocky, Zorks, Fyfe, O'Meara, Swallow SPP, Wigg, Miles
Gawn, Sandi Strnadicka
Dalhous, Wingard, Heeney, Roughead, McCluggage, Black Butler, Eddy
Zorko is my pod, he didn't real,y have a good year or much of an influence last year, he could've, would've and should've done better. As a fan of the lions, he would have liked to have had a better year. He has all the abilty in the world. He played bad last year and still found a way to score 109 sc points per game. This says he has the abilty to average high numbers if he's up to if and I think he is this year. Barely anyone has it but I've gone for the Brissy boys in the middle this year and I think it will pay off.
I've tried to go a bit safer with the rest of my premiums. I'm not sure in Wingard or Heeney either.
I think JOM and Swallow will be good, even though there's risk there's too much profit to be made there to leave them out of my side. Same as Roughy
I've gone 2-0-6 in he backline, just for some extra cash to stack my midfield just because of he lack of midfield rookies.
Sandi, I think if he last to round 6,7,8 he's made enough profit for me to load him off if he gets injured or while he has the bye. So I'm happy with Sandi, just it's risky with no backup.
I was thinking about billings as well in the forward line I fact he was in my team for about a month and finally after 1000 attempts this is finally what I've come up with and I'm reasonably happy with it.
Again any thoughts would be muchly appreciated and if you think it's trash let me know.
7K LEFT OVER ASWELL
1823 PROJECTED SCORE, not that that matters haha
JohnnyW · 02/03/2017 at 22:01
Well you called it early however I don't think he's going to be much of a pod anymore after tonight's display. Although he was basically versing witches hats, but yes he played extremely well. Good Call
BigBill13 · 02/03/2017 at 22:06
That's a good team mate except I think you need backup for Sandi and if your not sure on Heeney and Wingard maybe think downgrading to some backup and upgrading Wingard to like a caddy or a Greene, maybe even a Gunston or Mccrae.
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 22:49
lol Zorko played bad last year?
OldOcker · 03/03/2017 at 02:52
Come on he only averaged 109. and is priced to get 118 this year. Way too expensive for mine.
Burnmen · 03/03/2017 at 08:58
Too expensive for sure, but played bad last year? Can't fathom the comment.
OldOcker · 06/03/2017 at 00:56
Sorry buddy, I was laughing at Zorko playing bad last year with an average of 109, Brisbane supporters expect miracles.
NOT directed at you I hit the wrong reply message.
Tongue in cheek comment from an old fart. (sarcasm sorry)
Yes I was a Lions supporter for 50 years too. SC is a different story.
Cheers mate.
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 22:57
Not convinced by Marchbank, Wingard, Heeney, Luggage. Along with Sandi JOM and Swallow you are going to need a lot of mid price luck. Odds say it won't end well.
Cooper · 03/03/2017 at 10:31
Is that the greatest call of all-time or what, I know it's only jlt. But I completely agree he will definitely improve on his stats from 2016
Derek · 03/03/2017 at 11:12
Sorry, I was wrong. The Hit outs last night were 48 – 9 in favour of the Lions.
I might have even got a kick with that domination.
Tommo09 · 02/03/2017 at 19:48
Is Bowes a viable option?
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 20:52
Was in my team for about half a day a week ago I think.
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:27
Expensive, not convinced. Will be in most cookie cut teams too.
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 17:49
You don't need to POD your rookies
Danners · 02/03/2017 at 21:40
Bowes could be a viable option as a forward probably a 50/50 for Round 1 though. If you're looking for a midfielder go Brodie
Jason · 02/03/2017 at 19:58
Beams Locked and Loaded!
Krups · 02/03/2017 at 20:33
Why because he is going good against a crap bulldogs lineup? I wish you all the luck with that pick
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 20:44
Beams going ok. I can see his ownership skyrocketing.
Effect on Rocky?
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:16
It's a kind of average Lions lineup too. Lots of first and second year players?
wombatsfc · 02/03/2017 at 21:52
For me it's because he scores bucket loads of points when fit and atmo both his legs are still human and attached. Plus the Sherrin appears to have an unnatural, almost stalking, attraction to him.
Shake n bake · 02/03/2017 at 22:19
Ive had beams since ive been able to put a team together. if hes fit will avg over 100 @ 430k to much value there for pts generation & l still think a great chance to be around top 10 but thats just my view. Hope not to many jump on!
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 22:49
He's an ultra premium imo pity about his body.
Top Hawk · 02/03/2017 at 20:19
Zorko "the magnificient" looks sharp. Very sharp. How the hell am I going to fit this beast into my side at $593K! God damn!!!
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 21:25
Far too expensive
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:27
Agreed. Is a gun but can get him anytime throughout the season.
Jordan · 02/03/2017 at 20:20
1.Goldstein and Pickett
2. Sandiballs and roughy
3. Sandiballs, Pickett and upgrade beams to premo
Any other ideas will be welcome!!!
Danners · 02/03/2017 at 21:35
Depends on your structure, you don't want too many midpricers. Sandi and Roughie would be risky but it could generate the most points. Who do you feel safest with is the question
Supercoach Spud · 02/03/2017 at 20:30
Backs=Doch,,Laird,Vince,Hamton ,Newman,Ryan,Vickers-Wills,Stewart,
Mids=Danger,JPK,Pendles,Gray,Shuey,Fyfe,SPP,Picket,Jarman,Graham,Freeman,
Rucks=Gawn,Toby Nak,Strnadica,
Fwds=Josh Kennedy,Dalhouse,Ryder,Roughead,Black,Eddy,Smith,Camreeon,
help with any part of team and $8,111 in bank
Need to look at Andy Otten he was good till he started getting injured
Jordan · 02/03/2017 at 20:34
I'd say Robbie gray down to omeara or swallow (due to round 9 bye) upgrade nank to premo and may be able to fit in Ryder to macrae
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 20:33
Barrett looks ok for brisbane, best 22 is another thing though.
Beams anyone?
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 20:39
I think Barret is on rookie list. If elevated he will play round 1. Very good player.
Top Hawk · 02/03/2017 at 21:13
On the radar alright. Very impressive.
Top Hawk · 02/03/2017 at 20:39
Well, I can't afford Dayne Zorko, but I can afford Dayne Beams at $432K…. It's the battle of the Dayne's!! Beams looks like a lock if he produces another solid performance next week against Adelaide.
neil demonsdelight · 02/03/2017 at 21:01
great stuff Jock no McGrath
Shake n bake · 03/03/2017 at 13:16
not sure if you got my code neil its770101
neil demons delight · 03/03/2017 at 15:57
thx
The BONT · 02/03/2017 at 21:09
Zorko got 66% time on ground at kicking every ones ass
Supercoach Spud · 02/03/2017 at 21:11
Backs=Doch,,Laird,Vince,Hamton ,Newman,Ryan,Vickers-Wills,Stewart,
Mids=Danger,JPK,Pendles,Gray,Shuey,Fyfe,SPP,Picket,Jarman,Graham,Freeman,
Rucks=Gawn,Toby Nak,Strnadica,
Fwds=Josh Kennedy,Dalhouse,Ryder,Roughead,Black,Eddy,Smith,Camreeon,
help with any part of team and $8,111 in bank
Need to look at Andy Otten he was good till he started getting injured
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:15
You just posted this up the page about 3 posts ago. Stop spamming it will ya?
wombatsfc · 02/03/2017 at 22:00
You might wanna post this in the show us your team section Spud, you'll probably get more useful responses. Sort of helps if you're prepared to look at other teams and read the feedback and maybe reply to a couple. I know it sounds tricky and convoluted but if you do it you'll need a name change if you want to remain honest.
Personally I think your midfield is rubbish and your backline will bleed about 200k by the byes but I'm a grumpy old [insert profanity here]
wombatsfc · 02/03/2017 at 22:20
Try this page Spud http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2017/02/22/superco…
The BONT · 02/03/2017 at 21:13
Zorko is just shitting on Bulldogs
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:17
Zorko is going about his usual business really.
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:25
wow only 66% tog that is impressive.
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:26
71% atm
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:51
10 possie last quarter…..12 tackles lol he mopped up.
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 22:04
Before everyone gets carried away by Zorko and Beams effort against the dogs, the hitouts were 50 – 9 in favour of the Lions.
The one that impressed me the most was McCrae. 17 touches, of which 14 were contested in a midfield that lost the hit outs that badly. Plus he looked half pace. Very impressive effort (no Bont or Dalh though)
Top Hawk · 02/03/2017 at 22:22
Zorko pumped out a serious score last week also. Just saying!
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 22:53
Zorko averaged 110 last year so selection would be valid, will probably continue in such a fashion scoring wise.
But yeah I wouldn't get too excited by the JLT and expect him to do it every week.
Beams is exciting but of course a real injury risk. Teams with Beams, JOM, Swallow and Sandi are going to suffer some problems I think, and teams with all four will be common.
Could hurt if they all do well though and you don't have them.
Danners · 02/03/2017 at 21:33
Nice Jock! Not 100% keen on Black, Clark couldn't make it there and all I see Black for is backup for Hawkins. Also what about Tim Smith (FWD), heard early on that he might get a early run but nothing recently.
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 21:58
McBaggage costs too much and he ain't no Mills/Parish imo. Thoughts?
jockreynolds · 02/03/2017 at 22:28
** adding Jake Barrett to said cheat sheet
Top Hawk · 02/03/2017 at 22:35
He is on my watch list Jock.
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 22:54
Nice job on the cheatsheet.
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 23:20
the good part is we will know he will play if they elevate him off the rookie list prior to round 1
Dee · 02/03/2017 at 22:37
Mcrae or Caddy…. thoughts?
Burnmen · 02/03/2017 at 22:54
McCrae always been above Caddy imo. Like tonight Derek pointed out how he managed to still be very competitive with almost no help from the ruck
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 23:21
He looked half pace and a class above
HoleyFrijoles · 02/03/2017 at 23:13
DAYNE Zorko put on a SuperCoach masterclass at Etihad Stadium against the Bulldogs with a score of 175 in the win over the Bulldogs.
While his skipper Dayne Beams also hit triple figures in a very encouraging performance in his return from injury, it was his midfield teammate who stole the show.
Zorko was a standout with 34 disposals, five clearances and a goal in the victory at Etihad Stadium.
Dayne Zorko had 34 disposals and laid 12 tackles. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Beams, in his first game as skipper, was impressive with 24 disposals and four clearances and we can only expect him to get better with another run under his belt.
Popular Brisbane cash cows Jake Barrett and Hugh McCluggage had differing nights.
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Barrett underlined his credentials for a spot on our benches with 85 points from 17 disposals, while McCluggage, who will cost a tick over $200,000 managed just 41 points.
For the Bulldogs, Josh Dunkley relished the opportunity to shoulder more responsibility without his more senior teammates by top scoring for his side with 109 points.
Josh Dunkley was disappointed with the result but would have been pleased with his own game. Picture: Getty
Jake Stringer showed good signs and gave us something to think about with 103 points, while Lin Jong showed why he’s such a damaging midfielder with two goals and 94 points.
WESTERN BULLDOGS
Josh Dunkley 109
Jake Stringer 103
Lin Jong 94
Jack Macrae 88
Liam Picken 86
Toby McLean 86
Easton Wood 83
Matthew Suckling 76
Timothy English 70
Lukas Webb 69
Mitch Honeychurch 68
Dale Morris 67
Clay Smith 63
Bailey Dale 61
Stewart Crameri 53
Marcus Adams 52
Tom Boyd 46
Brad Lynch 38
Declan Hamilton 37
Kieran Collins 36
Bailey Williams 32
Roarke Smith 31
Nathan Mullenger-McHugh 28
Patrick Lipinski 27
Lewis Young 7
Dayne Beams was outstanding in his first game back. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
BRISBANE LIONS
Dayne Zorko 175
Dayne Beams 105
Harris Andrews 103
Rohan Bewick 100
Tom Cutler 86
Tom Bell 86
Mitch Robinson 86
Sam Mayes 86
Jake Barrett 85
Tom Rockliff 82
Michael Close 69
Jack Frost 67
Lewis Taylor 66
Eric Hipwood 66
Ben Keays 66
Ryan Lester 64
Daniel Rich 59
Nick Robertson 59
Darcy Gardiner 57
Ryan Bastinac 42
Hugh McCluggage 41
Stefan Martin 40
Claye Beams 32
Archie Smith 32
Matthew Hammelmann 19
Jacob Allison 17
Derek · 02/03/2017 at 23:50
Anyone who are thinking of starting Sandi, Swallow and JOM should look at these numbers.
Assume there are two almost identical teams.
Team A has Sandi, JOM and Swallow. These 3 will cost $900k. Assume they will average 90, 90 and 85.
Team B has Gawn, SPP and Wigg (this can be any $123k rookie) cost of $900k. Assume they will average 115, 70 and 65.
Team A will outscore Team B by 15 pts each week. However……..
by week 10, Team A players should be worth $460k, $460k and $430k. All good to trade over the byes to 2 $610k premiums and a rookie. And over the 10 weeks would have scored 2650. All good.
Team B would have the two rookies ready for culling by round 5 or 6. SPP would be $385k and Wigg $355k. Perfect for a paint the fence upgrade to a $610k premium and another rookie. Assume the rookie continues scoring 65, and the new premium scores 115 ave. Gawn continues with his 115. By round 10, team B would have scored 2750.
100 points more.
Also by round 10 the new rookie would be worth $355k, ready for culling.
Net result by week 10 is Team A, 2 premiums worth $600K+ and a $123k rookie.
Team B has 2 premiums worth $600k+ and a fattened rookie worth $355k plus 100 more points.
Go figure……
GoldRush · 03/03/2017 at 00:29
Get what your saying, but horses for courses I.e. Sandi would be an R2 selection, Gawn on the other hand can never be an R2, Goldy may be an R2 only if Gawn is R1. So Goldy is the highest ranking ruckman that can fill the R2 slot in your example. Just saying and I get your point – well done!
Derek · 03/03/2017 at 09:00
i just used Sandi & Gawn as example. It could have been any two who are about $350k different, because that is the cash you save by not have Swallow and Jom
I didn't factor anything for Swallow bye in round 9
Or discuss the risk factor of Swallow and JOM and having to trade them early compared to trading s rookie early (not many sideways options)
I didn't factor in if. Rookie has one massive score followed by a poor score (same average) but it has a huge price jump effect.
Burnmen · 03/03/2017 at 08:56
Team A could possibly have 1-3 keepers and will save trades if everything goes to crap via injuries. Which we saw last year.
Nice write up but I see a lot of variables.
Derek · 03/03/2017 at 11:04
Sandi JOM or Swallow as keepers! Serious?
Burnmen · 05/03/2017 at 21:49
It's possible to get one keeper out of them. Two would probably be a miracle. Three is crazy talk.
BlakeyP · 03/03/2017 at 09:05
I see what you are sayin here Derek and I agree with you, all for goin the cheaper rookie options. But the problem is at the moment there are not enough cheap rookies with job security on particular Lines to not look at the Swallow and JOM types. This is why more people this year are looking at the mid priced options.
Derek · 03/03/2017 at 11:03
I agree there isn't much, but we only need SPP and ONE other.
$350k is a lot of coin to use elsewhere to save a trade, make more coin.
Danners · 03/03/2017 at 16:33
Nice Derek, those averages though would be end of the season averages, look at Aaron Hall last year, came out with 110+ average (I think) then pitted off late. That is probably where the midpricers come in. Nice piece of research though
Derek · 03/03/2017 at 19:47
Yeah. Had to throw something inTo the calculator.
You get my drift. Where possible go cheap and if you have nothing, then look mid/exp rookie
Didn't like swallows game in JLT2 at all. Nowhere near midfield at all.
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 21:58
Coach said they are easing him back in but that is his natural place, and they practically have to hold him down to stop him from throwing himself in there
Lachie · 03/03/2017 at 20:37
The game is way too unpredictable to be able to assume price and score generations for over 10 rounds away.
Liam · 03/03/2017 at 21:54
What about JOM and Beams against Barrett and JPK ?
Can see JOM and Beams averaging 95 and 110 each just not sure if they will play week in week out, especially if Beams is going to be a keeper.
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 21:55
Smoother upgrade path also if not starting some of the really pricy players, ie stepping stone
Captain Awesome · 03/03/2017 at 08:32
Sandi-110
JOM- 100
Swallow- 100
Burnmen · 03/03/2017 at 09:01
Possible, that's why I have all 3 at this point.
The Poolroom · 03/03/2017 at 10:10
in the fine words of a Mr Daryl Kerrigan……Tell him he's dreaming.
Derek · 03/03/2017 at 11:07
JOM might average 100, but he will get rested if he plays round 1.
Swallow won't be in midfield and at best 85…. at best!
Danners · 03/03/2017 at 16:31
Sorry Captain, this is 2017 not 2014. Their maximum average would be 10 less than what you have written
Moustachio · 03/03/2017 at 17:54
I think safe to assume 100, 95, 95
Bingo · 03/03/2017 at 17:21
Nice list. Zuthrie won't get an upgrade this season though but one to watch for the future.
LStars1 · 03/03/2017 at 18:30
Hey guys would like your opinion on my team, taking a few risks early let me know what you think!
Def – t.adams, laird, tuoy, wellingham, jones, ed vwillis(ryan, Stewart)
Mid – hanners, jelwood, Bont, Cripps, fyfe, beams, jom, spp (Barrett, wigg, hibberd)
Ruck – z.smith, sandi (pruess)
Fwd – dahl, lynch(gcs), I.smith(hawks), Higgins, McInnes, butler (Houston, strnadica)
neil demons delight · 03/03/2017 at 18:50
wow 10 midpricers don't think you should go that many but each to his own mids look good rucks without being super no danger/pendles rucks risky and forwards dahl and lynch good selections smith and Higgins good pods anyhow good luck with it cheers
John · 03/03/2017 at 20:42
Hey Guys. Any thoughts on my tream
Def – Docherty, laird, mills, hampton, v willis, newman (ryan, stewart)
Mid – Dangerfield, selwood, treloar, fyfe, hepple, omeara, spp, wigg (picket, miles, hibbert)
Ruck – Gawn, grundy (strnadica)
FWD – Dahlous, macrae, heeney, petraca, roughead, black (cameron, eddy)
bambam · 03/03/2017 at 20:49
Backs = docherty, laird, tuoghy, hampton, v willis, newman (ryan, stewart)
Mids = dangerfield, pendles, tmitch, fyfe, watson, omeara, spp, wigg (barret, miles, mounterford)
Rucks = gawn, ryder (preuss)
Forwards = dahilous, macrae, caddy, heeney,, roughy, black (d cameron, eddy)
any advice?
DanC · 04/03/2017 at 08:36
Awesome work as always jock.
2 leagues if anyone is interested… 315787 and 941271 plenty of spots!
Toddgood1 · 07/03/2017 at 12:33
THOUGHTS? Help wanted
Backs: docherty,shaw,montanga,thurlow,hampton,vickers-willis(Newman,Stewart)
Mid: pendels,fyfe,zorko,JPK,beams,omera,swallow,brodie(J.berry,powell,pepper,Hibberd)
Ruck: Gawn,Sandi(preuss)
Fwd:dahlhaus,caddy,roughead,nankervis,mcCluggage,bowes(Black,Eddy)
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