SuperCoach Significance Report: RIC v ADE

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Richmond v Adelaide SuperCoach ReportTRUCKLOADS of relevance in tonight’s game between the Crows and the Tigers. Truckloads of general footy relevance, and a few haircuts of note as well – Cam Ellis-Yolman the most outrageous of those.

But there’s no time for tomfoolery – there’s more Supercoach news than you can poke a stick at and I’m pretty bloody good at poking things with sticks, so let’s get stuck straight into it.



Notable absentees: Rory Sloane, Brad Crouch, Scott Thompson, Jake Lever, Paul Seedsman

HARRISON WIGG | $123,900 | MID

We may have found the answer to our midfield rookie problem tonight, and its name is Harrison Wigg. Had 16 touches to half time, and along with Matt Crouch led the Crow’s midfield.

While Rory Sloane, Brad Crouch and Scotty Thompson still need to come back into the midfield, Wigg did more than enough for us to lock him away and throw the key where the sun don’t shine. 23 touches from 66% game time. Niiiiiiiice Gary.

RORY LAIRD | $526,800 | DEF

Rory Laird was one of the first players I locked into my side when the Higginator was released and he more than repayed that faith tonight. Unfathomable only 18.7% of coaches have him. He ran through the middle, and while he may not do that with the midfield brigade back, he provided run, carry, long kicking, tackles, intercept marks, pressure. 33 disposals. Just lock him in… 141 SuperCoach points tonight!

CURLY HAMPTON | $160,000 | DEF

A lot of us are counting on Hampton to hold down a D4 position, and we may have to look into contingency plans. While he isn’t by any means scratched off the list yet, despite serious midfield minutes and some silky-smooth skills, he only had 5 possessions by halftime. Picked up to finish with 16 touches and an impressive six tackles but has slid down the list.

We need to see improvement from him to justify a 160k price tag. Also had candy sold to him by Ivan bloody Maric. Embarrassing.

Obligatory edit: Hampton scored a bloody massive 108 SC points from that game. Holy toledo Batman. If he get close to that again, lock him in folks. I was FAR too harsh on the bloke.

ANDY OTTEN | 123,900 | DEF

Looked very good in the first quarter, rebounding, running off his man and taking contested marks. Was quieter as the game wore on, but was far more nimble and provided more run that you’d expect from a key defender. Hasn’t played since 2014 though, so may also have been blowing out cobwebs. Seemed to push up the ground at times.

Would be interested to see his role with Jake Lever back, but keep an eye on him in JLT 2 and 3. If he’s a chance of playing anything like he did tonight in the real deal, lock him in.

SAUCE JACOBS | 472,000 | RUC

Middled his way through the game. Somehow had 10 possessions to halftime but half of them were useless, and the blokes kicks like a ruckman with a prosthetic foot. Refuse to believe he can actually point his toe. Reilly O’Brien had a run in the second half. Not for mine. Injured his back by the end of the game and was put on ice.

MATT CROUCH | $504,600 | MID

Identified as the next supercoach beast in the Jock Reynolds magazine and showed why. Has shed the handball-heavy tag to even his kick/handball ratio, his disposal efficiency was more than acceptable. Won’t be impacted by returning guns. 26 touches, 5 tackles. Worth a look.

JAKE KELLY | $197,400 | DEF

Looked pretty good. Had 16 touches in the backline, ran forward and kicked a goal, and importantly had seven tackles. Played 10 games in 2015 and averaged 52, which is why he’s priced so highly. Consider, but at the elevated price we probably won’t end up with him in our sides.

HARRY DEAR | $123,900 | FWD

Had his name mentioned a lot for a bloke who only finished with ten touches. Looked okay, but is unlikely to get a look in when the real deal starts.

BRODIE SMITH | $410,400 | DEF

Hahahahahahaha no. Got a lot of the ball, but does this every year in the preseason and then scores 30 in round one. I mean you could make the argument but do yourself a favour and pick someone else.


No-one else really stood out for the Crows – Richard Douglas and Tom Lynch won’t change course from their past few years, and Wayne Milera, Charlie Cameron and Cam Ellis-Yolman won’t get the midfield minutes required to get scores we’re after. Jono Beech was nearly unsighted and Dean Gore didn’t get a run. If you’re feeling dicey, have a gander at Josh ‘Leroy’ Jenkins. Him and JJK for the Coleman this year. I won’t touch him but he will kick goals.


Notable absentees: Alex Rance, Shaun Hampson, Shai Bolton, Kane Lambert, Nick Graham, Connor Menadue


Ooooh boy am I interested. OOOOH BOY, Moe. Ruckwork was good, stuff at ground level was good, contested marking was GOOD. Knocked out 88 SC. Actually caused me to get a highlighter out in the second quarter. Interesting comments from Alex Rance saying this week was to see who the #1 ruckman was – however, Shaun Hampson is still to come in.

Was the number one ruckman in the first half before switching with Maric up forward. Marked well, kicked poorly – Rance said The Nank was a big chance to spend minutes forward this year which is a concern; especially as Hampson and Maric aren’t much chop inside 50. Looked good forward too.

Tavern But Moe, The Nank, THE NANK!

JOSH CADDY | 488,600 | FWD/MID

Started in the middle, continued in the middle ended in the middle. Didn’t set the world on fire. In fact his first half was slightly damp. I haven’t been interested all year and while he’s risen slightly in stock, I continue to be disinterested at this stage of the season. Had 15 handballs and six kicks. No thank you.

DAN BUTLER | 123,900 | FWD

Hadn’t heard of this kid before he started streaming through the middle of the ground with the pill. Has been on the list for three years without playing a senior game. Main knock on him was apparently a lack of ball finding ability. Saw no such lack here tonight. Got the ball, tackled, snuck forward for a sausage roll.

Looked very nice for the most part and made a few simple errors that are concerning, but made Richmond so much more exciting. Had a few blistering runs through the middle and collected the pill. Continue to monitor, but he’s tentatively wormed his way into my side on the back of that.

DION PRESTIA | 508,700 | MID

The Human Meatball made his debut in yellow and black this evening and had a big impact. I’m a no for Supercoach selection at this stage; he only had 21 touches – looks to be between the top 25 and 15 midfielders. Is absolutely value but I can’t see him being top 10 off what we saw tonight. Quality CoachKings selection though. Captain Trent Cotchin ($546,800) who had 22 touches is in the same boat – accumulated, but wasn’t damaging. Pass.


Started deep at full forward and spent a lot of time down there this year. Still has spurts through the middle and finished with 21 disposals, but at that price tag you’d want a pure midfielder capable of average 115+. That won’t be Dusty off the back of tonight’s performance.

NICK VLASTUIN | $407,800 | DEF

Yeah nah. 15 disposals, 4 tackles, played every position under the sun tonight but saw nothing that interested me in the slightest. Isn’t a great kick. Plays for Richmond. Has red hair. I mean do I need to say anything else? Better value options.


I mean Richmond didn’t look terrible. Adelaide didn’t really have the foot down but they looked decidedly less terrible than I remember them being. Daniel Rioli will be a player, but not in Supercoach. Shaun Grigg again topped the disposal list with 24 but he does that regularly and still doesn’t score points. As a $504k midfielder, nah.

Jack Riewoldt won’t score much, Kamdyn McIntosh lost all his hair and still is terrible at football while Sam Lloyd, Ben Lennon and Reece Conca were hardly sighted. Jason Castagna kicked a few but at a $270k price tag, he can NOPE right off. Big Ivan Maric didn’t look out of place, either, which is concerning for those looking at The Nank.

That’s how I saw it – what did you take out of it, community? Do you like THE NANK? Anyone buying a piece of Richmond’s midfield? Anyone not picking Laird? Hit me up in the comments and let’s have a yarn!




Gaveday · 24/02/2017 at 22:39

Love a good Simpsons reference patch!

Ben · 24/02/2017 at 22:40

Patch, you're crazy about Curtly Hampton!!

Only needs mid teens in terms of possessions to get a lot of points, also kicked two goals..

89 AF at 81.3 DE is outstanding for a rookie pricetag.

    Patch · 24/02/2017 at 22:44

    I am being a bit harsh on him, but he is scaring me a bit in terms of consistent cash generation with low numbers. Especially at the elevated start price – not sure what his SC score is at this stage so I'm finding it hard to make a call

      DAS · 24/02/2017 at 22:49


        Patch · 24/02/2017 at 22:56

        holy toledo batman – he's locked and loaded

          Squid · 24/02/2017 at 23:26

          Tonight's the night Hampton sucks everyone into picking him. Will let you down, avg below 60

            Dave · 25/02/2017 at 00:02

            Got to over 400K at GWS so do mine it's a matter of games. If he plays end 1 – lock

      Kev · 24/02/2017 at 22:52

      Started very slowly. Got pushed off it a few times far too easily

BarronVonCrow · 24/02/2017 at 22:41

Good wrapup, Patch!

Beech did his hammy shortly after he kicked the first goal of the game, so was on ice after that. Only had 11% ToG because of it. I'd like to see another game from Wigg before I get massively excited. Burnt the ball a bit to begin with, hopefully that's just him getting up to speed a bit, he's a quality kick at SANFL level, so it'll probably take some time for that to translate. I did like Otten's game though.

    Patch · 24/02/2017 at 22:56

    Cheers Barron!

    OldOcker · 24/02/2017 at 23:34

    Yeah Wiggs game seem to get off to a shaky start listening to the radio but he seemed to end up okay, Job security is an issue but Adelaide were also missing a few so I just wonder how many games he might get. Another 2 JLT games might show the reality of his chances.
    I was interested in Otten's game though it sounded okay on radio and I had a watch on him even though he has been out of the side for a couple of years. He is still only coming up to 28 years old but seems forever.

Patch · 24/02/2017 at 22:46

Dustin Martin attended a game high 18 centre bounces, which I didn't realise. Was hard to make out CB players on the grainy telstra screen cast to my laptop but I thought he was forward far more than that.

Laird with 141 SC points which was tweeted mere seconds after I sent this report through, and Otten had an astounding 98 points. Hampton ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHT SC points. WOAH boy.

Dan · 24/02/2017 at 22:48

Thought Edwards was handy. Good price if he stays on the park could be value

    Clock Management · 24/02/2017 at 22:56

    Na, he will do what he always does. Solid pick but no upside

    @wheels_1987 · 25/02/2017 at 03:37

    nope he is trash, avoid

Kev · 24/02/2017 at 22:49

I really hope there's someone more talented than me out there that's making a gif of Ivan "Candyman" Maric making Hampton look like a fool.

Stellar write up, Patch. I've got one leg up on the Nank bandwagon. Double insurance policy alongside Darcy Cameron to cover Sandi. Can shank a set shot that brings back memories of Richo, but his ground work and competitiveness impressed.

Jet · 24/02/2017 at 22:52

Who are your rookies at the moment patch? And who would you have over Caddy? Already got Riewoldt and Dahlhaus

    Patch · 24/02/2017 at 22:59

    I've got Rough at F2 because I don't like any of the forwards, so I'm not the best to ask about who to have over Caddy haha – although I like Tommy Lynch – currently Bowes, Burtler, Durdin, Miles, Strndica and Black but Eddy, McLuggage, Simpkin, Pickett and Parfitt could come in (Parfitt's in the midfield at the moment but might come forward if needed)

Clock Management · 24/02/2017 at 22:53

Bit harsh on Hampton, Beech off in first quarter with hammy.

Andy could take Cheneys spot midway through the season if Cheney struggles. Laird a lock, still not convinced Wigg plays rd1

Caddy Yuck, was hoping he would go well to suck everyone in.

Nank maybe challenging for title of best midprice ruck option. Not for me though. Set and forget.

    Patch · 24/02/2017 at 23:00

    Cheers Clock! Very harsh on Hampton considering the resulting SC score – am locking him in as we speak

Dave · 24/02/2017 at 22:59

Great write up Patch. Wig impressive but a long way back in crows pecking order. 88 SANFL avg last year. Butler just doesn't get posies.. Two traps?

    Patch · 24/02/2017 at 23:08

    Cheers Dave! Butler might hurt us from week to week but was fantastic tonight – need to keep an eye on both of them

    Damien · 24/02/2017 at 23:11

    Pyke said this morning that Hampton and Wigg would both get minutes this season, outstanding pre-seasons has them firmly in the round 1 frame.

    You'll have to ask Dimma about Butler.

ado · 24/02/2017 at 23:01

docherty, laird, jj, kolodashnij, hampton, vickers-willis (newman, otten)
danger, treloar, rocky, bont, fyfe, swallow, SPP, wigg (berry, hibberd, graham)
Gawn, Ryder (strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Hrovat, Black, Pickett (Butler, Eddy)
101,100 in the bank
thoughts community???

    John · 24/02/2017 at 23:23

    Upgrade Ryder to Grundy

Dan · 24/02/2017 at 23:04

How is Ryan Burton priced at 254,600 from 3 games @ 52 avg and Marchbank 236,100 from 2 games @ 62 avg!?!
Had my eye on Burton but not at this price. SC got that one wrong.

    Youngster · 27/02/2017 at 16:15

    Based on their averages, Ryan Burton has been given a 10% price discount, whilst Marchbank has been given a 30% price discount.

Swiz · 24/02/2017 at 23:10

As Tiger supporter at the game nothing I saw changed my mind.
Laird still a lock, Nark wont get the ruck minutes required, Caddy BOG and you think he will slot more goals then sharing it around like he did tonight.
Going to try not to get sucked in to Andy Otten. Dan Butler, still no thanks & as much as I love the Mullet, wtf was Ivan doing out there. Dont get me wrong, he looked good, but is meant to be there as a last resort.

Damien · 24/02/2017 at 23:10

I didn't watch the game but when I saw Harrison Wigg's stats rising up the chart my first hope was that he was a rookie, the next hope was that he was a Midfielder. Yes to both queries has him locked. Potentially on field come round 1.

Hampton didn't do a lot in the first half, but came home like a freight train and finished with 108 points. Locked.

Dan Butler was also impressive, unsure if he'll get a round 1 berth but he certainly threw his name onto the selectors magnet board.

OldOcker · 24/02/2017 at 23:23

Great analysis Patch I just love these insights from people that Know the SuperCoach relevance of players.
Shame that Nankervis is Ruck Only, Maric with only 52% time on ground and on the comeback trail could throw a big spanner in the works of those thinking of Nankervis and as you say Hampson will be fighting for a spot too. Way TOO EARLY to be putting Nankervis in teams for mine.

    Patch · 24/02/2017 at 23:32

    The Nank is a RUC/FWD Ock! Happy days! However, I do agree, until we see the landscape down there with Hampson, he's a concern.

    Love people like you who get in the comments and nut it out!

OldOcker · 25/02/2017 at 00:01

Okay, Shit I was wrong,
I love a man that can admit he is wrong and think nothing of it, Just had my spready looking at someone else and got carried away.
It will never happen again.
Bloody Hampton has never made my team even the bench. He still has not until I see more JLT. He made the watchlist but I need to see more. I have to find money to upgrade from another rookie or downgrade my stepping stones.

    throttlefinger · 25/02/2017 at 00:16

    Watched him a lot when he was with GWS. A natural. Price is a ridiculous bargain. Only concern is his body. But if he gets selected R1, he's a lock as my D4.

      OldOcker · 25/02/2017 at 01:02

      I knew my remark would spark you into action my friend.
      Exact response I expected. I need someone to lock as my D4 and he is looking very likely ATM.

        throttlefinger · 25/02/2017 at 01:05

        Haha. Well played, Ocker.

        Like to see another good game from him but he's got the skills and AFL experience to serve us well. Again, just hope the body does the same.

Luskin Star · 25/02/2017 at 00:02

Been sweating on Wigg for a season now. He is in. Wary of Hampton. Always looks stylish but usually falls short of points although tonight different. Will watch him a bit more.

    Northerner · 26/02/2017 at 07:29

    Wigg knows how to play and find the ball. I think there's a spot for his footy smarts in the Adelaide side. As mentioned earlier, he was taking kick outs. Yes he made the odd mistake, but he's new to the level. The Adelaide coaching staff would be stupid not to invest game time in him after seeing that performance.

    Hampton looked nowhere near the smart footballer that Wigg did and his brain clearly doesn't operate as as quickly, however he's athletic and brings something different. He showed enough to give him game time. I'm not as confident Hampton will have the necessary decision making skills for the level and if he costs them goals or deviates from game style he'd be a risk of getting put back in the 2s.

Canny the Manny · 25/02/2017 at 00:24

"Kicks like a ruckman with a prosthetic foot" – actually laughed out loud upon reading that. Always look forward to your articles, Patch!
I don't think people remember what Curtly Hampton was like at GWS. He averaged 75 SC points in his second last year there (2014) before not playing the year after due to injury and little opportunity. Fantasy Freako pinned him as "a genuine breakout candidate". He's at a good age where he's not going to struggle like some of the first-years around his price tag. At 160k he's an absolute bargain if he's named round 1. Don't be so quick to label him as a burn-man or someone who'll suck in supercoaches, community, because there's no real evidence to suggest that.
Some good intel was gathered on rookies tonight, you can't really be sure until the end of the JLT though. Get your structures right, don't read too much into some of the scores and results of these preseason games (especially from premos, you already know they're gonna score well throughout the year) and beware of mid-price traps. Other than that, just enjoy that footy's back! Best time of the year!

Stirlsy · 25/02/2017 at 02:24

Richmond 14.8 92
Adelaide 10.13 73
Dion Prestia 93
Josh Caddy 89
Toby Nankervis 89
David Astbury 87
Anthony Miles 83
Shaun Grigg 82
Jack Riewoldt 80
Shane Edwards 78
Trent Cotchin 77
Dustin Martin 77
Dan Butler 75
Daniel Rioli 65
Nick Vlastuin 64
Ben Griffiths 59
Jason Castagna 59
Ivan Maric 57
Brandon Ellis 55
Reece Conca 54
Kamdyn McIntosh 52
Sam Lloyd 47
Jake Batchelor 46
Taylor Hunt 46
Corey Ellis 44
Oleg Markov 36
Dylan Grimes 34
Ben Lennon 15
Rory Laird 141
Curtly Hampton 108
Andy Otten 98
Brodie Smith 97
Matt Crouch 92
Jake Kelly 87
Josh Jenkins 87
Wayne Milera 83
Richard Douglas 81
Charlie Cameron 79
Harrison Wigg 70
Daniel Talia 70
Eddie Betts 62
Tom Lynch 58
Rory Atkins 56
Kyle Hartigan 55
Mitch McGovern 48
David Mackay 47
Troy Menzel 41
Myles Poholke 41
Taylor Walker 34
Cam Ellis-Yolmen 29
Sam Jacobs 28
Reilly O’Brien 27
Harry Dear 21
Jonathon Beech 14

BlueBalls · 25/02/2017 at 03:04


Dion Prestia 93
Josh Caddy 89
Toby Nankervis 89
David Astbury 87
Anthony Miles 83
Shaun Grigg 82
Jack Riewoldt 80
Shane Edwards 78
Trent Cotchin 77
Dustin Martin 77
Dan Butler 75
Daniel Rioli 65
Nick Vlastuin 64
Ben Griffiths 59
Jason Castagna 59
Ivan Maric 57
Brandon Ellis 55
Reece Conca 54
Kamdyn McIntosh 52
Sam Lloyd 47
Jake Batchelor 46
Taylor Hunt 46
Corey Ellis 44
Oleg Markov 36
Dylan Grimes 34
Ben Lennon 15

Rory Laird 141
Curtly Hampton 108
Andy Otten 98
Brodie Smith 97
Matt Crouch 92
Jake Kelly 87
Josh Jenkins 87
Wayne Milera 83
Richard Douglas 81
Charlie Cameron 79
Harrison Wigg 70
Daniel Talia 70
Eddie Betts 62
Tom Lynch 58
Rory Atkins 56
Kyle Hartigan 55
Mitch McGovern 48
David Mackay 47
Troy Menzel 41
Myles Poholke 41
Taylor Walker 34
Cam Ellis-Yolmen 29
Sam Jacobs 28
Reilly O’Brien 27
Harry Dear 21
Jonathon Beech 14

@wheels_1987 · 25/02/2017 at 03:36

dont get sucked in by caddy
better options

    Leeds17 · 25/02/2017 at 10:03

    100% understand what you're saying but 89sc points from 67% TOG in a handball heavy effort with uncharacteristically low number of tackles, there's upside there.

      John · 25/02/2017 at 13:13

      Leeds17, your just another one looking at the score. 89 was way inflated. 32 came form the goal in 4th quarter

        Leeds17 · 25/02/2017 at 18:55

        Actually I was looking at his role, if it was 57 points from the 50% TOG in other words take out his last quarter TOG and last quarter points I'd still be happy enough to keep him on the watch list, good role & as much as people want to talk down Adelaide's midfield Caddy himself barley got out of 2nd gear, just have to look at his tackles numbers to see that (averages 4-1/2 a game in regular season)

        No decisions made based on this game for me, each to there own though.

      derek · 25/02/2017 at 13:36

      have a look who he was up against in the Crows Midfield. Actaully, it is easier to look at who he wasn't up against. do you think Sloane and thompson would have been a decent contest for caddy in the middle?

        derek · 25/02/2017 at 13:49

        caddy made 1 tackle

    Danners · 25/02/2017 at 10:13

    I've heard that was a supposed "full strength" lineup though Wheels

PhantomAFC · 25/02/2017 at 06:44

Otten looked good but realistically he went into the game 4th in line for the Crows 3rd tall defender role and isn't versatile enough to play somewhere else when Lever/Cheney are fit (in the next fortnight). Crows fans will sleep better knowing Otten can do a job rd 1 if necessary, but he shouldn't be in SC teams.

Nathan · 25/02/2017 at 06:47

I'm currently running a 215 backline
Hibberd worth a look at d3?

    Danners · 25/02/2017 at 10:12

    Depends on how you will use him. Do you see him as a keeper or cash generator? Might take a few weeks for him to make enough cash.

      Nathan · 25/02/2017 at 10:40

      I'd be using him as a long term stepping stone
      But I think regular 80s would warrant a d8/9 spot if I needed to hold him
      Also thoughts on jake Lloyd?

    derek · 25/02/2017 at 13:37

    i prefer Mills for $420k

Wiggs · 25/02/2017 at 09:07

Can wigs replace swallow at M7?

    Krups · 25/02/2017 at 09:39

    Centre rookies are starting to concern me. At this stage im running with T Mitch at M6 Swallow M7 and Wigs at M8

      Wiggs · 25/02/2017 at 10:11

      Powell pepper not your M8?

        Krups · 25/02/2017 at 11:39

        He is on the bench but may swap depending on form and selection

Don't Blush Baby · 25/02/2017 at 09:16

M6 – looking at T Mitch @ 565k or Smurphy 432k – reckon Smurph my be value ? Thoughts anyone

    Saundo · 25/02/2017 at 09:33

    I really like t Mitch but along with Ollie wines has poor disposal efficiency but why not give them a go !

      Holty · 25/02/2017 at 11:46

      Agree a few years ago titch's de% was poor but he improved last year. Added he has gone to a side who are known for their fantastic efficiency i can see titch will only get better. Wines is a clanger magnet. And after his jlt match thursday, seems not much has changed unfortunately.

    SCaddict · 25/02/2017 at 12:17

    Titch is likely to be a good pick but there is always risk when someone moves into another scheme. I expect to take the punt on him in DT but probably passing in SC. Will be keeping a close eye on him tomorrow to see how he works in with JOM and the rest of their new look midfield.

    Smurph whilst totally underpriced is difficult to visualise him being anywhere near a top 12 mid. So will probably be a weaker M8 than a lot of teams come SC finals. Maybe an excellent M9 guy perhaps but is unlikely to make enough coin to be a worthy stepping stone if that's the plan. There are probably more appealing options out there like JOM/Swallow/Scooter. All have had their durability issues too like Smurph but way cheaper.

      derek · 25/02/2017 at 13:39

      Hawks have a very nice run of games up to the byes. TMitch might be the man, might even be worth a luxury trade

        Keenbutclueless · 25/02/2017 at 14:25

        Totally with you on that Derek. A round 13 bye makes that even more appealing

          derek · 25/02/2017 at 20:03

          TMitch has replaced Priddis in my team

    Shake n bake · 25/02/2017 at 15:31

    If you like murph go for it! Avg 78 last yr l think will definitely improve if he stays on the park. Cant see why he wont avg around 95-100 in that case will give you at some stage 100k rise. Use him as a steeping stone to a fallen prem that you think might come home hard. He will generate you pts aswell till then can go big aswell when not tagged! I put him sort of in the same boat l used Libba last year.

Danners · 25/02/2017 at 10:11

Nice Patch! I've had Wigg in and out of my team but he now looks lockable and could be the one to pickup on the midfield time left by Lyons, Hampton I will still wait for the rest of the JLT Series to see if he can get through.
I think I've lost the key that locked Laird in and I'm feeling more confident with Caddy.
Nankervis was just showing off against Jacobs just like all the other ruckman did last season.
Also for anyone considering B.Smith (not me that's for sure) I've heard on some SA News that he has been training in the midfield.

    Clock Management · 25/02/2017 at 13:08

    Smith's been training with the midfield the last 5 years, trap like always.

    Jacobs just can't get his body right,

    Not sure how last night improves your confidence with Caddy. Was low on my watclist last night and is no where near my watchlist. Trap pick, just another richmond midfielder other than Dusty that will dissapoint the Tigers and SC players

    derek · 25/02/2017 at 13:40

    where was Knight?

      Abel · 25/02/2017 at 16:48

      Apparently knight and gullucci being managed and expected to play next game. Wondering how all 4 can play round 1.

Westy · 25/02/2017 at 10:29

I had Laird in already, but is it too much to bring in Otten and Hampton as well, resulting in 3 Crows in the backline. This would be replacing Keeffe and Vickers-Willis.
Current backline + Docherty Laird Tuohy Scharenberg Otten, Ryan (Stewart, Guthrie)

    OldOcker · 25/02/2017 at 10:59

    Anyone in your backline is not too many when they SHOULD be upgraded before the byes.
    They are there to make you cash, not as keepers.
    Rookie selection has a long way to go yet, this weekend will reveal many more and especially in the midfield.
    Ocker has played the Minson and the mid Rookies are following him.

wombatsfc · 25/02/2017 at 10:36

This is probably obvious to all but IMO Curtly and Wayne looked good. Both had quiet periods but sitting on the bench for a while does that, Mileara probably wont show his true value until after the byes but Curtly should be a lock at D5 for everybody at this stage.

Tank · 25/02/2017 at 10:48

Yeah Hampton is a trap for mine. Looked good tonight but can’t see him getting any quality minutes in the midfield once the likes of Slone, Thompson and Crouch return, particularly with Laird set to roll through the middle. Will get plenty of the pill on the wing and at half back but will be one of these blokes who scores 100 one week and 50 the next. Select at your own peril.

Caddy scratched himself off my watch list last night. Lots of hype over the preseason, particularly with the lack of fit forwards to choose from, but he did nothing to suggest he will improve on his output from 2016. He will tease us from time to time but ultimately end up averaging high 80’s or low 90’s. Think Jack Newnes.

Wiggs is very interesting.

Love the write up Patch. Keep up the good work.

    Kev · 25/02/2017 at 10:59

    Agree with you on Hampton, Tank. I like these reports coming out before the SC scores because that 108 has swayed opinion that he had a good game and is a lock. From a football perspective I didn't notice him that much, I thought Jenkins had a bigger impact on the contest than Hampton did.

    All that said, points matter at the end of the day. He's not scratched off my watchlist

      Clock Management · 25/02/2017 at 13:03

      What was most interesting for me was hamptons work off the ball. Although it has nothing to do with SC, he was blocking, making runs, creating space. He had a big impact on the game, not when he had the ball but when he didn't, I guess they never show that stuff on TV but is a lock for rd 1. 16 disposals, 5 tackles and 1 goal, I can't see him going lower than that stats wise, he will more play half forward. Is in front of menzal and knight for that spot.

      For mine otten will be the trap of last night. I can't see him playing rd 1.

      Caddy's score was inflated last night, of his 89, 32 of them were from the mark and goal he had in the last half of the 4th quarter. #Significant

        John · 25/02/2017 at 13:10

        Exactly what I have been telling everyone, Caddy a trap. Good to see the Clock knows what he is talking about

          derek · 25/02/2017 at 13:44

          Caddy will be ok this year, but will find himself a step behind when the big show starts, especially when the big boys come out to play and the tackles are real. look who was missing from the Crows midfield

          he is attractive because he is a genuine midfielder with fwd status, must be considered, maybe.

        Tank · 25/02/2017 at 14:23

        So realistically Caddy scored 57 SC (89-32) from 20 touches ( 15 handballs and 5 kicks ) Very significant. Big pass!

        Really hope I'm wrong about Hampton but I reckon he'll have a stellar JLT sucking people in and then go missing when the real deal begins. #burnman

          derek · 25/02/2017 at 20:05

          Hampton is $160k !! cheap

AuroraBorealis?! · 25/02/2017 at 13:24

I was really looking forward to seeing Shai Bolton play but unfortunately he wasn't selected, surely we'll see him in the JLT series at one point

    Clock Management · 25/02/2017 at 16:06

    Reckon he might play game 2 but thats it, won't get a game early, too many in front of him.

derek · 25/02/2017 at 13:27

Knight didn't play. Any reason?

    Clock Management · 25/02/2017 at 16:04

    Just being "Managed" has had foot problems over pre-season. Will play JLT games 2 and 3 if he doesn't have a set back

Iconic · 25/02/2017 at 13:47

Anyone know why FanFooty isn't displaying SC scores for last nights match?

neil demonsdelight · 25/02/2017 at 13:54

Nankervis worth a thought at R2 went ok 366000 AND R/F makes him on my watch list

    Tank · 25/02/2017 at 14:32

    Battling with Hampson for R1. Richmond will probly play 2 rucks so the Nank will spend a lot of time deep forward. The bloke kicks like Ricky Mott. Will miss set shots from 10 metres out directly in front. Beware preseason temptations. If you want a cheap R2 go with Sandi then upgrade to whoever the second best ruckman is if and when Sandi breaks down

      Northernsoul74 · 25/02/2017 at 15:20

      Tempted by Nank instead of Ryder as my F4. Sandi R2 currently.

        Krups · 26/02/2017 at 10:01

        Agree but really depends on the role Nank will play

Krups · 26/02/2017 at 09:31

This JLT series is not helping shape our teams at all. Better just picking it week leading into the first game haha.

Laird Lad Donuts · 26/02/2017 at 18:20

Hey community, changed the team bout 1,000 times so far and finally think the team is looking alright, thoughts so far?
DEF- Doc, Shaw, Adams, Laird, Guthrie, Ryan
MID- Danger, Trealor, Rocky, Sloane, Bont, Cognilio, Fyfe, SPP
RUCK- Ryder, Sandi
FWD- Riewolt, Dahl, Mcinnes, Black, Miles, Daicos

    Don't Blush Baby · 26/02/2017 at 22:24

    Sloane injured may not play R1, you need Gawn in the Ruck, suggest you only go with 3 premo defenders to start with and put Heeney in the FWds IMO, , hope that helps, good luck

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