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SuperCoach Significance Report: STK v PTA

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2017 SuperCoach Significance Report

Enlightenment.

That’s what we were looking for during this JLT pre season series, Community.

This Port Adelaide v St Kilda match was no different.

Questions like can Sam Pepper-Powell fill a rookie spot in our midfields, what sort of nick is Paddy Ryder in, who the bloody hell is this Brett Eddy bloke and can Saint Nick elevate his game again have been ensconced our minds.

It was a one-point thriller between these two robust sides, with the Saints just getting over the Power.

There’s no doubt Jock was jizzing all over the joint with some of the scores dished out from St Kilda’s midfield and backs, so let’s have a look at the SuperCoach relevant players below:

St Kilda

Nick Riewoldt

Ran around like an absolute stallion. Moved with complete freedom, starting on the wing and pushing forward. Judging by the way he looked and the glint in his eye, he’s going to be an absolute monolith this year. There have been predictions of a ‘Richo-like’ season and this looks to be well and truly on the money. His beautiful blonde mop was everywhere; intercepting in defence, taking dukes in the midfield and roaming up forward. It was extremely trouser arousing. Went quiet in second half while playing forward, as he took his foot off the gas. STRONGLY CONSIDER.

Tom Hickey

As Higgo mentioned in last week’s POD, Hickey is only a ‘romantic selection’. Won’t improve his average by enough this season and still looks like a big lumbering bastard. As the genius of Dermie’s commentary has also suggested, he could also still be competing for R1at Saints with Longer.

Jake Carlisle

Tried to take hangers early to prove he was back. Finally realised he’s a backman. Looked solid. But steer clear given his key position status.

Jack Steven

The best midfielder on the ground. Looked bloody majestic. Went off to the bench late in the game, which doesn’t do justice to how he good he was. Was on 80-odd SC points at half-time and then took the foot off the pedal. Only played limited time in the second half. Tempting.

Jade Gresham

Only played second half. Saints have shitloads of mids so he’ll play mostly up forward. Pass.

Jack Steele

Again, battling with a shitload of talent in the Saints midfield. Leave it.

Koby Stevens

Ditto. Can’t see him getting the extra midfield time to become relevant.

Jack Billings

Has provided some food for thought. Looked very impressive tonight with 2 goals and 19 touches. There’s no doubting he has a truckload of talent. Has never been able to get a good run at things so far in his career because of injury. But his price of around 400K is horribly awkward.

Notable absentees: Leigh Montagna, Nathan Freeman.

Port Adelaide

Sam Powell-Pepper

Was everything we expected. Everything we needed! Extremely mature body, expertly combined with the bryl cream in the hair to look even more manly. I bloody like it. Cleaned up Roey at one point too with a good bump. My only concern is he historically doesn’t get enough of the ball to register high scores. However he’s been given the no 2 jumper at Port so they must rate him highly. Looked good in patches.

Brett Eddy

Only got half a game. But boy did he look impressive. Had a couple of nice moments early and had three shots on goal. Looks to be a certain round one starter. Moves very well in the forward line.

Dan Houston

Good kicking skills. Uses it well and went at 100 per cent. Along with Eddy and SPP, Port’s best-looking rookie. Still might not get a game round one though.

Joe Atley & Aidyn Johnson

Both only played the second half. Barely saw it. Can’t see them breaking into the best 22. Pass.

Hamish Hartlett

In the action early. Got enough of the ball to tempt plenty. Hammer has loads of talent, but he always seems to be pissing into the wind. Seems mentally weak to me. Won’t be going within a bull’s roar of him.

Jasper Pittard

A typical Jasper performance. Looked good. Made mistakes. Many are tipping him to elevate his game to the next level in 2017. The jury is still out.

Riley Bonner

Looked very strong running off half back. Had a couple of dashing passages of play. If only he was still rookie price. Smoky.

Ollie Wines

Had plenty of it and is easily Port’s strongest mid. Skills let him down, though.

Chad Wingard

Pushed into the midfield, which was promising. But didn’t show enough. Steer clear at this stage.

Paddy Ryder

Looking very athletic and moving extremely well.  As the great Dermott Brereton said he’s both Port’s best forward and ruck when playing his best footy. This creates a conundrum … where is his best position? Looks reinvigorated and played with enthusiasm and energy. Only played the first half. CONSIDER.

Notable absentees: Robbie Gray, Matthew Broadbent, Angus Monfries, Jimmy Toumpas.

 How did you see it community?

Carlos


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Des

Why does nobody talk about Seb Ross ?? A real POD for me

Lazza

Agree. I had him penciled in at the end of last year. He is on the up and should play a good deal in the guts.
How much game time did he have?

Also, note Montagna didn't play cos he was injured… not sure what it is … but at his age, and commandment # 1 he is out of my team.

Russ in W.A

A minor calf strain they said.

Hayden

What about Luke Dunstan. 2.2 and 20 touches 6 tackles. Went super in my book or that could be the man crush talking.

Skindog

He looked really good mate

Carlos

He looked magnificent but I can't see him being SC relevant this season

Dusty's Neck Tatts

Jeez, if Paddy spends significant time up forward, that's going to throw a lot of teams out of whack.

jjo

r2 is a tough one this year !!

LEKD0G

Great work Carl!

Skindog

Hard to get a gauge on P Diddy RideHer, a few watches out there but need to see more

TRIGGER HAPPY

Bloody Roo look good
Bounded around with youthful exuberance had so much freedom, seems to have found a new lease
SPP port loves the way he goes about it, saw why, so will we
Billings head scratcher put him in the heeney/touk bucket
The Chad nah pass travelled that road last year
paperback Ryder need to see more but blew out some cobweb
Eddy stays on fwd bench agree looked good and only played a half. made port look more dangerous.
great for the first JLT game
Pity 50 shades didn't play
lots of talent at the saints led by Stevens – can see Jock getting up and about early

Damien

What do you people think of Dylan Roberton?

Carlos

Probably should have mentioned him in hindsight Damo. Was one of Saints' best. Despite playing well, he's probably not SC relevant though IMO.

Damien

He's on my watchlist

Kev

Get around him in CoachKings

Buttonsticher

Thanks for the report mate. What are your thoughts about Jack Hombsch, looked pretty good on the telly but it does'nt tell the whole story.

Carlos

He looked bloody great I thought. Plenty of intercept marks. Can't trust him though as a key defender unfortunately. As good as he looked, can't see him having a consistent scoring capacity during the season.

bUCKET__

He is definitely a great player. However come season proper he won't get so many nice wayward/blind kicks to pluck off like he did tonight.

Buttonsticher

St. Nick looked good but he don't bounce back real quick when he takes a hit, if I was the oppo coach my instructions would be to bump hard and bump often.

BarronVonCrow

Good review, Carl!

And as a gift, I present to you SC SCORES!

ST KILDA
Luke Dunstan 119
David Armitage 109
Sebastian Ross 94
Shane Savage 91
Dylan Roberton 89
Jack Newnes 89
Jack Billings 83
Nick Riewoldt 70
Tim Membrey 67
Jake Carlisle 66
Sam Gilbert 63
Nathan Wright 63
Jade Gresham 60
Josh Bruce 59
Jack Steven 59
Jarryn Geary 56
Billy Longer 56
Nathan J. Brown 54
Daniel McKenzie 53
Maverick Weller 52
Koby Stevens 51
Jack Steele 50
Sean Dempster 48
Tom Hickey 48
Paddy McCartin 45
Jack Lonie 35

PORT ADELAIDE
Ollie Wines 102
Chad Wingard 100
Travis Boak 98
Jackson Trengove 94
Justin Westhoff 86
Tom Clurey 84
Jack Hombsch 81
Brad Ebert 74
Karl Amon 70
Jasper Pittard 69
Matthew Lobbe 66
Sam Gray 65
Riley Bonner 63
Dan Houston 60
Sam Powell-Pepper 56
Jarman Impey 53
Nathan Krakouer 50
Hamish Hartlett 50
Jared Polec 47
Tom Jonas 39
Charlie Dixon 36
Aaron Young 35
Brett Eddy 33
Patrick Ryder 31
Joe Atley 16
Aidyn Johnson 13

Damien

Roberton at 89 is surprising

INPieman

I wrote an article a while ago on SPP stressing he was only a bench option. Saw nothing to suggest I was wrong. Will get a bit of it, will chop it up & won't score much. But fine for 50-60 on the pine. Will take a while until he can handle the pace

Dan

Wingard didn't show enough but got 100 SC. Anyone wanna elaborate?

Carlos

Probably didn't give him enough credit Dan. SC scores were released after I submitted this report. The kid is a gun. He will probably get more Mid time this season, but I still think he is more valuable for Port at half forward. Might be a value selection if he stays in the middle but I still can't see him being a top 6 forward.

Moustachio

He played the full game unlike most, against relatively easy opposition (lots of rookies) and still only got 100 SC.

Jack

Something quirky about Wingard is that he has never had 2 down seasons in a row…2012, 2014, 2016 were lower averaging years, with 2013, 2015 premium averaging. If the pattern follows 2017 he should bounce back, and considering it seems he's got more mid time plus the lack of premium forwards, I'd say he's worth the risk

Holty

He is tempting jack but he is the same as hartlett for me. That rd9 bye makes my decision easy not to pick him.

Leeds17

If you could be confident of Westhoff playing that floating forward and back role I think he'd be a great pick, Bye annoying of course.

wombatsfc

Searching for a mid rookie? At 2:05 PM saturday Nemo the previously ignored midfield rookie who as a team mate of SPP made him look like Peppa Pig when it comes to footy brains, consistency, possessions and disposal efficiency gets a run.

Moustachio

68 kg of hulking man stud.

Kev

Great round up, Carl. Eddy and SPP can keep rookie spots for another week, no stand out premiums for Port that made me sit up and take notice. Slipped Wingard into F3 and felt an impending sense of doom so took him straight out again.

Saints probably have 4-5 guys that could break out. Currently don't see any of them doing a Zerrett, might avoid them all to start and jump on the early bolter.

Hugh

Nice write up carl. Chad wingard is totally locked for me. At 438k he doesn't need to do that much to justify his selection and tends to be able to make it to 100 points with minimal touches… extra mid time = an average over 100. One point carl – a lot of references to Dermott brereton. Concerning.

Gaveday

Derm is a ******* idiot. Commentates like he's talking to his mate and spouts out some grade A dribble.

Soothsayer

Derm is a legend and commentary style is insightful and broad. A refreshing change from the new wave of female commentators trying to put on the silly footy dialect and sounding thin and full of cliche. He's also from Frankston, the heartland of Aussie football. I was appreciative last night and his commentary is far more SC relevant than most. So Carlos, don't listen, Gaveday is probably just an Essendon fan.

KingBlue14

Wingard got 100 points last night?!

I wouldn't 'steer clear' of that sort of score in the fwd line!

INPieman

Need a bigger sample size. Could easily be thrown back forward & score 50's

Clock Management

Was playing Robbie Greys role last night, stay away from Wingard

Gaveday

My worry with Ryder is how port utilise him and a 2nd ruck, such as lobbe. Last time it wrecked his output and I'm now thinking this year will be no different. So I'm calling it now, Ryder out of my team and onto the watchlist. Wingard was in as soon as I heard the work midfield. Kid is the silks.
Billings – I'm toying with the idea of starting him but I think I'll wait till post byes. Good run home for the sainters!

undypuncher

wingard playing midfieldmeans more running which means more hanstring injuries

neil Demons Delight

I notice in Holey Frijolie s team he has 8 genuine prems and 9 yes 9 mid pricers and yet it looks good. I am thinking with the slower than usual emergence of good rooks this may be the way to go.T ake his M6 7 8 for instance Beams Omeara AND Swallow all have a great chance and will play as against 3 rooks this enables him to have a great bench .I don't say for one minute go 9 but given the choice who would you take Eddy or Swallow.Its early days and maybe a Tim Smith will pop up but its well worth considering.I have opted for MILLS instead of Kelly and Sandy again for Grundy giving me better cover with the dearer better rooks Taranto instead of Poholke THOUGHTS CHEERS NEIL

adam bale

fxck you neil change teams to the sainters

Rivo

Still taking a punt with Ryder at F3 based on last night. Risk in his role. Need to see more in JLT or he may be out. Cameron remains a good insurance policy at F6.

Rivo

No drama Cromagnon. Ryder just making me nervous at F3. Not sure if he will get enough points if he's not playing as their R1 full time. That's why I've got Cameron down at F6 for now and Strnadica as the loophole in R3.

wayno1313

I would of thought Riewoldt is a very high chance of getting injured and missing at least a few games? Possibly some St Kilda bias here

Adnan

Steven didnt play in the second half, with under 40% TOG got 80 SC Points, strongly considering him now. Was roaming around the mid almost like he was unmatched.

Daniel

Didn't see the game but, playing against Port's midfield is almost like playing unmatched, isn't it?

FWIW, I still think he'll be a great pick, I'm just saying consider his opposition before locking him in at M1.

AMAC

Thanks Carlos. Helpful write up and I had a bloody good chuckle when I read Notable absentees: Jimmy Toumpas

INPieman

Notable absentee is usually his status when he does play

neil Demons Delight

WHAT A tragic era for dees picks 1 2 3 4 Scully Trengrove toumpas AND Cale Morton remember him wonder where those recruiters are now

INPieman

It wasn't a great idea having Stevie Wonder in charge of recruiting

Demi Dee

Just got the recruiting gig at norf

Hazey

At bloody North dammit,!!!!

mac

get viney in your team

Finnius123

join league 601911

demon_spud

Savage..smoky…awkward price….may continue push his average into 90+….if pivotal as the link up man out of the backline to put the ball into the blonde Adonis secure mitts might be an upgrade target…