SuperCoach Significance Report: HAW v GEE
ATTACK OF THE ZAC
The modern rivalry between Geelong and Hawthorn continued tonight in Game 2 of the <Insert Commercial Sponsor> Cup/Series/Challenge tonight and I dare say that all 7 of the fans that rocked up got their money’s worth.
More importantly though: there were 3 fine young men by the name of Zac that frolicked upon the sensual expanses of UOT Oval tonight, all three of them produced ripping games and brought nationwide trouser stiffness to a historic climax.
Zac Tuohy, Zac Guthrie and Zac Smith were superb for the Cats from the very start and I dare say all three will figure significantly come season proper.
They aren’t the only ones though, I made sure I absorbed every last drop of sweet, succulent supercoach juice out of this match-up..
..and I now intend to spray my juice all over you: the sacred community.
HAWTHORN
JARRYD ROUGHEAD| HAW | $367,100 | FWD
Simply SUPERB. Was close to BOG at half-time and played all over the bloody ground. Spent time in the Midfield, worked his way forward and back…even pinch-hit in the ruck when required. Under-priced as all hell and I can guarantee that’s exactly where your headed if you don’t pick him.
JOSH GIBSON | HAW | $490,400 | DEF
I tell you what: they must empty every bottle of bloody Crisco they have onto this bloke pre-game, he was shinier than a rare Pokemon and slipperier than the mole I gunned down during my time as a Sicario for the Juarez Cartel. Quiet SC-wise, bit too old to be considered regardless.
SHAUN BURGOYNE | HAW | $515,400 | DEF
The Sugar Man just never stops delivering. Was absolutely sublime playing wherever required tonight. Finished with 20 disposals @85%, 4 Clearances, 6 Tackles and 1.1. Averaged 105+ over the last 10 games of 2016 and is durable…it’d take some sizeable pant-fruits to pick him though given age and price.
JAEGER O’MEARA | HAW | $318,900 | MID
Had an enormous first half with 12 touches (9 of those contested) and 5 Tackles. Clarko put the bastard on ice for the second half as he should do. Interesting to note that the Hawks clearance numbers fell away significantly after JOM went off…. He will be extremely important for Hawthorn in 2017, are his knees up to it?
GRANT BIRCHALL | HAW | $457,500 | DEF
Started the game like a flaming mountain goat but slowed down significantly. You know what you get with Birchall, consistent 75+ scores with the odd ton thrown in for good measure. I think there is much better value on offer though.
DALLAS WILLSMORE | HAW | $123,900 | MID
Plenty of hype coming in for this bloke, had a great VFL season last year and got his opportunity after half-time. Only had the 2 touches and struggled to get amongst it sadly. Will definitely play another JLT match so I’ll keep watching.
TEIA MILES | HAW | $123,900 | MID/FWD
NOW HERE’S ONE TO WATCH! I really liked what I saw from young Milo the Milkman tonight, he played the entire game as a loose man in defense and racked up enough of the seed (17d @77%) to suggest that he is relevant come Round 1. He took kick-outs at one stage which tells you the Hawks rate his kicking (as do I). The DPP is highly stimulating south of the border and this kid MUST be on everyone’s watch-list after tonight.
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GEELONG
ZACH TUOHY | GEEL | $443,200 | DEF
Probably the Zac of the night in my view. Played an incredibly SC-friendly role running off half back and did as he pleased for the majority of the night. His kicking was exceptional and best of all: his teammates continually searched for him when exiting defensive 50. 33 disposals (20 Kicks) @86% tells the tale of his night, and if that doesn’t get your wazoo woofing: he is extremely durable (Currently on a 90 Game Consecutive Streak). Onto the watch-list he goes.
ZAC SMITH | | GEEL | $421,500 | RUC
A forgotten commodity is Zac Smith. The loping, long-limbed bastard impressed me tonight with his 14 Disposals @89%, 29 Hit-Outs and 4 Tackles. Had plenty of Hit-outs to advantage and is enjoying the death of the third-man up. Did the majority of the ruck-work as well which is good to see. Not sure if he’s anywhere approaching pick-worthy given the numerous options in the Ruck division but he’s still one to think about.
AARON BLACK | GEEL | $137,100 | FWD
If you haven’t already locked this bloke onto your forward bench, I know a very good life coach you can consult (I met him during my time as a Palaeontologist in the Sub-Saharan Tundra). Anyway, he kicked 4.0 and looked very lively in the Cat’s forward line. He will definitely play R1 (barring injury) and at $137k he is a MUST.
MITCH DUNCAN | GEEL | $502,200 | MID
Limited game-time as one would expect. Still managed 21 disposals and 6 tackles from just 55% TOG. Had an average year in 2016 and will look to fire up as Geelong’s 3rd best mid. He COULD break-out but not really worth the risk at his price.
STEVEN MOTLOP | GEEL | $463,700 | FWD
Stay away from him. Had minimal influence and never looked threatening.
PATRICK DANGERFIELD | GEEL | $716,900 | MID
Went at a canter and still tore the damn thing apart. 27 disposals @82%, 8 Clearances and 6 Tackles. Enormous price-tag but I’d feel very nervous if you didn’t have him…especially when you consider that Geelong’s first 8 games are less laborious than outdoor urination.
TOM STEWART | GEEL | $117,300 | DEF
Did more than enough to suggest that he deserves a bench spot in your defence. Had 16 touches @56% but the poor DE can be written off as first-game jitters. Laid 6 tackles which should prove great as an alternate point source. Looking forward to seeing how he goes in the second dig.
JACKSON THURLOW | GEEL | $267,700 | DEF
Ticked all the boxes for a return game from an ACL. Grasped the nugget 18 times @61% and looked comfortable slotting into his defensive role. Awkward price considering the injury though so I’d think twice and have a back-up plan if you’re picking him.
ZACH GUTHRIE | GEEL | $102,400 | DEF
I’m betting last night you didn’t even know Cam Guthrie had a brother. Well he does, and he’s a nifty little footballer. Played as an extra behind the ball and loved every minute of it gathering 24 disposals @71% including a goal. Only had 68% TOG as well so you’d figure that number will increase in the remaining JLT games…could be a genuine bolter for round 1.
How did you see it tonight community?
MR. X
68 Comments
TOMAHAWK · 17/02/2017 at 23:16
HAHAHAHA – Brilliant analysis! Very witty. Roughy Lock.
jockreynolds · 17/02/2017 at 23:21
In equal parts pissing myself & being downright impressed by the SC wisdom you've deployed X man – BRILLIANT stuff!
Patch · 17/02/2017 at 23:31
So there you go: it is possible to do a funny write up without referencing the Simpsons….
jockreynolds · 17/02/2017 at 23:38
NOTHING tops the Simpson inspired Panic Room you majestic animal!
Kev · 18/02/2017 at 10:02
Super writeup, X. Equal parts informative and hilarious with just the right amount of testicle innuendo. Hopefully you've put up your hand for a few more games mate
Patch · 17/02/2017 at 23:28
Lovely stuff Monsieur X – Silk Burgoyne impressing me. A lot. I'm tempted, but too early to make a call on who slinks into my D2 slot. Roughie a lock, Schoenmakers a sneaky proposition at 155k in the forward line if he gets a game. Aaron Black is back from the periphery of my watchlist right front and centre. Been banking on Miles for my structures and am rapped he's done well.
Ripping stuff mate.
hedski · 17/02/2017 at 23:43
The Cobbler is looking like a steal Patch.
TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/02/2017 at 23:52
If he laces up Rd 1 he's a shoe in.
Luskin Star · 18/02/2017 at 00:48
Burgoyne 114 avg last third of last season. Only thing stopping me jumping in his his teeth, very long
jockreynolds · 17/02/2017 at 23:34
Jock Magazine enthusiasts – Sam Menegola: 24 touches @84%, 12 contested, 8 clearances, 7 tackles 74%TOG #HuntingTheNextMidfieldBeast
TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/02/2017 at 23:47
Keen on menegola but very awkward price if he was around JOM be straight in.
Could have thrown is a bone. 6 games and he is [email protected]!
Would take a fair re-jig but boy impressive how he goes about it. Took caddys spot. So caddy packed his bags and left. Ensconced in the cats midfield.
Westy · 18/02/2017 at 06:13
The only thing less fair than that is Fiorini in AFL Fantasy – 2 games played – price 500k +
Dan · 18/02/2017 at 01:08
Rough SC score? Handballs worry me.
hedski · 17/02/2017 at 23:35
We need more Mr.X rated sc material (jock centrefolds).
Hope the rest of the preseason is as good as tonights game.
TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/02/2017 at 23:36
Rough – tick
Danger – tick
Stewart – tick
Miles – tick stays on my mid bench
Selwood – tick. Oh wait didn't play. No matter still a big tick.
Watch list – black and Guthrie.
Good night to tick the boxes.
Guaranteed it was gonna be close just seems to happen when these two play.
Byrna · 17/02/2017 at 23:36
if omearas due to play such an important role for the Hawks then surely omeara>swallow assuming his fit
Dee · 18/02/2017 at 00:40
IF and IF…. sounds a bit too IFFY for me mate. Not in my team…
BarronVonCrow · 17/02/2017 at 23:44
SC scores!
SUPERCOACH SCORES
HAWTHORN
Kade Stewart 112
Isaac Smith 101
Shaun Burgoyne 92
Cyril Rioli 85
Billy Hartung 82
Liam Shiels 73
Will Langford 72
Ryan Schoenmakers 72
Ben McEvoy 71
Grant Birchall 71
Ryan Burton 65
Jarryd Roughead 63
James Frawley 63
Ty Vickery 59
Teia Miles 58
Taylor Duryea 55
Kieran Lovell 49
Jaeger O’Meara 44
Ben Stratton 43
Josh Gibson 40
Paul Puopolo 40
James Sicily 35
Blake Hardwick 31
Kurt Heatherley 26
Dallas Willsmore 12
Marc Pittonet 6
GEELONG
Zach Tuohy 130
Patrick Dangerfield 117
Zac Smith 102
Zach Guthrie 91
Sam Menegola 90
Aaron Black 89
Tom Stewart 85
Andrew Mackie 85
Mitch Duncan 80
Tom Ruggles 76
Jackson Thurlow 74
Darcy Lang 71
Jordan Cunico 70
Mark Blicavs 68
Nakia Cockatoo 61
Rhys Stanley 59
Steven Motlop 59
Brandan Parfitt 55
Jed Bews 53
Jack Henry 51
Tom Lonergan 51
Harry Taylor 50
Tom Hawkins 47
Josh Cowan 35
Cameron Guthrie 17
Lachie Henderson 10
Iconic · 17/02/2017 at 23:54
BVC where are you getting your SuperCoach scores from?
BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2017 at 00:08
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-…
Dee · 18/02/2017 at 00:49
it's on Facebook for free, just type in Supercoach Paige on the search tab….
TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/02/2017 at 00:02
Danger 117 in a canter
Look out when he hits his stride and goes into a full gallop!
John · 18/02/2017 at 09:51
Issac Smith scored well? Forward line POD? Have not seen him in one team.
Jordan · 18/02/2017 at 12:06
What was Isaac smiths tog
John · 18/02/2017 at 12:27
86%
derek · 18/02/2017 at 14:18
what was Big Boy McEvoy and Cyril's TOG?
Nathan · 18/02/2017 at 00:19
mr menegola you are looking very likely to be my m7
I'd just like to see full strength sides
Hutto76 · 18/02/2017 at 00:51
Just did exactly that! Could involve some adjustments in other areas if either one of 2 cheap ruckmen don't come to fruition! It's early days, but definitely an exciting time of the season!
jockreynolds · 18/02/2017 at 13:44
Could do anything this season. Really could.
AMAC · 18/02/2017 at 00:34
Interesting summary X. How do you rate Geelong this year? I think that neither Harry nor Aaron will provide the necessary CHF dominance required to be a force this year. Only players I am considering from Geelong are Danger, Selwood and Tuohy. I think they could be drifters this year…….
Dee · 18/02/2017 at 00:53
Cats are gonna win the premiership this year mate…. What are you on bout?
AMAC · 18/02/2017 at 01:54
haha appreciate the humour Dee!
The Stiv · 18/02/2017 at 10:13
I wasn't convinced by Harry up forward to be honest. Aaron Black had a good game but more evidence needed.
Mr. X · 18/02/2017 at 17:23
The Cats Premiership Window is RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! Arguably the best midfield in the competition, added Black and Tuohy in the off-season which can only help. Thurlow/Scott Selwood due back from injury vastly improves their depth as well. I expect them to finish Top 4 for sure. In terms of SC, I consider the following relevant:
– Danger (Obviously)
– Joel Selwood (Always ripe for plucking post-bye, especially given his insane history of form after mid-season).
– Zac Tuohy (Highly relevant after tonight but to be fair, he was left alone for the majority of the night. I highly doubt teams will allow him to run around with that much time and space in the season proper).
– Scott Selwood (Definitely relevant at his price considering he has averaged over 105 in the past. Has had an exceptional pre-season and he COULD finally be fit!)
Hope that answers your question mate 😉
– Mr. X
Corvus · 18/02/2017 at 00:35
League for Jock Renolds followers only: 914967. If you're after some serious competition.
Corvus · 18/02/2017 at 00:54
*Reynolds. Attention to detail is everything…
Meanie of Me · 18/02/2017 at 06:31
Cheers Corvus
The BONT · 18/02/2017 at 00:46
Has anyone thought about Trent McKenzie for the GC at 238k, I think if he stays fit he could be a massive profit
AMAC · 18/02/2017 at 01:57
Yeah Nah
Kev · 18/02/2017 at 08:22
I think we saw the absolute best case scenario out of Black. Jagged 4 goals but only 1 mark (uncontested). Scoring power was never huge at Norf. On the watchlist sure but I'd be happy to leave him out if others present
Kreuz · 18/02/2017 at 08:47
Fair call Kev, and agree about best case. However, last nights performance surely has to put him ahead of Bowes and McLuggage just on price alone…..At least until we see them play!
Kev · 18/02/2017 at 09:59
McBags yes. Bowes maybe. Only 30-odd k more, if the hype is real he may offer a bit more consistency as an onfield rookie. Teams out for Sunday yet?
Tommo09 · 18/02/2017 at 08:30
Really liked Rough, JOM, Stewart last night
I thought JOM was out until at least round 3???
JT22 · 18/02/2017 at 12:55
Was the initial talk. May play round 1 if fit now. Apparently come on in leaps and bounds.
derek · 18/02/2017 at 14:21
Hawks play Essendon first up, they won't risk him for that game
TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/02/2017 at 14:31
Be a good game to play the new captain
Clock Management · 18/02/2017 at 09:04
Was at the match last night,
Aaron Black is enormous, he is filled out and looked as big of not bigger than Tommy H, lock.
Roughy was everywhere. Danger did his job.
Zac Touhy was already in my squad but now lot of people will jump on him.
Tom Stewart will play Rd 1 looked better than ruffles and even Thurlow,
One guy that got my attention was Issac Smith was running extremarly hard for a JLT match, and was used by his teammates a lot, nice pod.
Overall a lot more relevance than night 1. However still can't read to much into it.
P.S geez it was funny when Cyril hit the post from the goal square. I was behind the goals, cars cheersquad was tearing into him.
Anyway that's my review.
Clock Management · 18/02/2017 at 09:06
Cats
Kev · 18/02/2017 at 09:55
With you on Isaac, CM. His numbers ([email protected] 86% TOG) are about on par with what he's been doing over the past 3 years when I looked into him. Hawks have a few SC relevant players this year.
I N Pieman · 18/02/2017 at 12:32
My 8 year old boy Ben just finished his first SC team & wants to role into the National Schools with this line up. He'd appreciate some advice. Bit of Pies bias as a junior Pieman! Note: He picked all his premos & may have had some rookie selection advice
Adams, Burgoyne, Johanisen, Stewart, Ryan, Newman, Vickers Willis, Long
Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Rockliffe, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Swallow, Myers, SPP, M Hibbered, Graham
Gawn, Witts, Straindick
Dahlhaus, Buddy, Ryder, Elliott, Hoskin Elliott, Bowes, Smith, Eddy
John · 18/02/2017 at 13:36
Very good team young Ben! Good luck in the National Schools comp young fella.
jockreynolds · 18/02/2017 at 13:43
Best of luck Ben in the BIG Nationals mate!!! I really like your team. I really like how you've got Buddy in there – will be a lot of fun watching him and I reckon he could kick a lot of goals this year. Well done!
I N Pieman · 18/02/2017 at 13:59
He loves watching Buddy. Didn't hesitate with the selection. He also sees Shaun Burgoyne every Monday because he plays basketball with his son. That was his first pick. Could be a good one considering we know his role this season, he will all over the park in 2017
John · 18/02/2017 at 14:05
Pieman what did Shaun say his role would be at the Hawks this year?
I N Pieman · 18/02/2017 at 14:14
Mid/Fwd & Mid/Def depending on opponent. Expext to see him all over the park. Looks extremely fit & leaner than I can ever recall seeing him
John · 18/02/2017 at 14:21
Good defensive option you reckon?
I N Pieman · 18/02/2017 at 14:33
Hasn't AV over 100 since 2008. Durable as it gets though. Missed 4 games since 2010. With all the quality defence options I'm not sure he's top 8. But some mid time is appealing. Tough call. He's in the mix for my team
Derek · 18/02/2017 at 15:11
He might have a bad game that rolls through his price, get him cheaper, but not top 6
TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/02/2017 at 14:41
Great team Ben.
That is as good as most teams I have seen posted on here.
Powerful midfield – swallow at M7 – nice 🙂
Should smoke them in the Nationals with that team infact would give the community a run for their money including dad.
Well done.
I N Pieman · 18/02/2017 at 14:57
He says thanks Trig. Elliott is his favourite player. That's not negotiable. I think the rest of his team is very solid
Shake n bake · 18/02/2017 at 16:07
Hey Pieman, my son is 8 aswell & like myself loves the black & white. so something in common there! Wish Ben luck great team hope he goes well.
I N Pieman · 18/02/2017 at 16:54
He's reading the Jock Magazine Shake. Hoping he reads the congative bias article
zakvb · 18/02/2017 at 13:55
Def: Adams, Laird, Johannisen, Hurley, Keefe, Vickers-willis (ryan, long)
Mid: Danger, Jpk, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, Myers, Powell-pepper (Hibberd, graham, ronke)
Ruck: gawn, witts (sterndicka)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, motlop, ryder, roughead, balic, Bolton (Smith, eddy)
$282,300 left in the bank, not sure what to do with it got a coupla ideas tell us your thoughts
Witts to a 450-500k ruck
Swallow to premo mid
Ryder and roughie to 500k fwds
Or chuck in another mid pricer pod somewhere
I know forward lines a bit risky and am not impressed with motlops performance last night.
Cheers let me know what ya reckon.
stabmow · 18/02/2017 at 14:06
Don't get fooled by Burgoyne he is guaranteed to spud it up at least twice in the first 6-weeks
2012 fist 6 ave 80 worst three 61,65,70
2013 fist 6 ave 92 worst three 56,70,89
2014 fist 6 ave 101 worst three 72,96,101
2015 fist 6 ave 88 worst three 59,67,83
2016 fist 6 ave 89 worst three 68,73,80
Iconic · 18/02/2017 at 15:09
G'day Community,
I want a website that, throughout the JLT Community Series, I can access things such as: SC Scores, TOG% and DE%
Cheers
SCaddict · 18/02/2017 at 15:24
Try FanFooty mate. They were even doing live SC scores last year until from memory the HS cracked down and put the kibosh on all that. Or at least they are not live during the JLT such as the Giants Eagles game right now.
But you will still get them at some point after the games have finished.
Iconic · 18/02/2017 at 18:20
Cheer SCaddict, need this as it will help significantly with a couple of selections I am twoing and froing about
Derek · 19/02/2017 at 13:45
Roughie looking good is annoying, have to build a team that includes him as one of my options.
Just not sure about him
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