PODCAST: SuperCoach 2017 Midfield

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Jock Reynolds Supercoach PodcastThe most formidable & arousing species of them all – the SuperCoach midfield BEAST

Today we pick the 2017 midfield apart with the fervour of a savage SuperCoach point hungry dogs. Simple as that, we hope you absolutely love the show as we crash into the beginning of the JLT series this week!

Looking forward to kicking the podcast around in the comment below folks – including Peter Higginbotham’s controversial “No Danger Zone”.



Now, find yourself a comfortable chair, kick back & enjoy the show!


Bob · 14/02/2017 at 17:59

Love it

Clem · 14/02/2017 at 18:06

Great stuff guys, love your work and thouhts.

Mitch17 · 14/02/2017 at 18:28

Good stuff guys as always

SCaddict · 14/02/2017 at 18:37

Coach Kings Play at Home during the JLT. What a marvelous Idea Jock and Higgo. Your gifts of generosity to the community know no bound. Should reward those who have been comprehensive with their preseason research unlike myself ha ha.

Can't wait for Thursday night lads!

Jim_bob321 · 14/02/2017 at 18:43

Hey guys, what do u think of my team?

Def – Docherty, Adams, Laird, JJ, Berry, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)
Mid – Dangerfield, Treloar, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Foote, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Pickett, Graham, Freeman)
Rucks – Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Forward – Dahlhause, Caddy, Ryder, Roughead, McCluggage, Bowes (McCarthy, Eddy)


    Tyruddanaut · 14/02/2017 at 19:41

    I'm pretty sure berry just got injured so try to trade him out.

Yakka · 14/02/2017 at 18:48

Love your work guys.
Can't wait for coach Kings.

    jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:03

    We're absolutely snot faced PUMPED!!! Cheers Yakka

UncleSwaggy · 14/02/2017 at 18:53

Are there pictures of higgos jacket, i need to see ut

    jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:03

    There's one burnt into the deepest shadows of my brain mate – will never forget it.

      UncleSwaggy · 16/02/2017 at 18:19

      a mere mortal like myself can not begin to fathom what goes on in the deepest depths of your brain, jock

hedski · 14/02/2017 at 19:10

"Jizzin all over the sc landscape".
Ha. Go Danger.

    Holmes_Heroes · 14/02/2017 at 21:08

    I think I am going to say that a lot this year…

matthewgreen161 · 14/02/2017 at 19:13

Interested in your thoughts on this strategy.

Start with Gawn, Sandi and Witts at R3 with Strndica (sp?) at F8 to ensure loophole option.

When both have maxed out in price, downgrade Witts to rookie forward via dpp and upgrade Sandi to Prem R2 keeper with Strndica sitting at R3 all year for loophole.

    Tyruddanaut · 14/02/2017 at 19:43

    There aren't any high scoring forwards so maybe an option like strndica for mid or back would be better. It might be hard to find but one but it will work better if you can

    Patch · 14/02/2017 at 20:05

    Entertaining a similar idea myself Matt. Love the agile thinking. I'm not making a defining call on the strategy until we see both Sandilands in a match and know Witts has the #1 ruck role at GC by the scruff of a bloodied neck. If neither of those conditions are met, the plan goes in the bin.

    Kev · 14/02/2017 at 20:42

    I had a play around with this idea today. For mine it's still 217k sitting on the pine. Even if Nicholls doesn't get up for round 1 he will feature early. If he was gone for the half of the year it might make me feel better about it. Already taking enough risk with Sandi

    Luskin Star · 15/02/2017 at 00:45

    Good idea but my concern is that for less than 70 more you could go with Martin at r2, strndica at r3, eddy at f8. In doing so you save a trade and eliminate the risk of sandi breaking down.

    Nathan · 15/02/2017 at 06:30

    I've had this set up for a couple of weeks now
    And I also see it as an insurance for sandi
    Witts avg 72 for 2 seasons sharing the ruck so I'm pretty confident he will make enough money
    Is also let's us see who the best 2 rucks are
    My r1 is Gawn and not sure who will be the next best
    But the down sides
    Will need 2 trades
    Sandi risk
    High priced bench who has never been sole number 1 ruck
    But at this stage this is my ruck setup

Rick · 14/02/2017 at 19:13

Community what are your thoughts on my team?

DEF: Doch, Adams, Laird, Shaz, Newman, Ryan (Stewart, Long)

MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Cripps, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Bolton, Graham, Ronke)

RUCKS: Gawn, Grundy (Cameron)

FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Ryder, Roughy, McCluggage, Bowes (Smith, Eddy)

$6800 Left

Still not sure on Adams, Ryder and Macrae

    Eric_the_Red · 14/02/2017 at 19:28

    A well-balanced team Rick. You should have a decent start to the year in my opinion. I'd love both Dahl and Macrae in my team, but it worries me having 2 top shelf forwards from the same team.

    Tyruddanaut · 14/02/2017 at 19:47

    That 6,800 scares me. You won't be able to fix your team if if goes bust so fingers crossed

      BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 19:47

      Money in the bank is points off the field

Danners · 14/02/2017 at 19:13

What a ripper boys! Can't wait to get into the play at home Coachkings. You have me tempted to not start Danger, but he did score 140, 229, and 155 against his first 3 opponents. Going in with a robust midfield consisting of

Danger, Pendlebury, Sloane, Fyfe, T.Mitchell, Beams, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Bolton, Graham)

Learnt from my mistakes last year and I feel the first six can average 105+.
Also I have a league going for people ranked within the top 10k last year to try and have a crack at the Round 1 prize. Fling me an email at djk1410 dot dk at gmail dot com for a code.

    jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:05

    Cheers Danners! Only bloke out of that first 6 I'm iffy on is Beama.

Krups · 14/02/2017 at 19:19

Danger, Pendles, Selwood, Hanners, Treloar, Fyfe, Swalow, Powell-pepper is my starting midfield

    Holty · 14/02/2017 at 19:42

    Strong mate. Id hate to see your other lines however.

      Krups · 14/02/2017 at 19:47

      Def: Shaw Adams Laird
      Ruck Gawn and Sandi
      Fwd Dalhaus Caddy Ryder

        Leeds17 · 15/02/2017 at 06:06

        Your 3 Defs have same bye round I think FYI

          Krups · 15/02/2017 at 07:39

          Thanks you are correct. I will change that slightly to make it better

        Holty · 15/02/2017 at 07:30

        Nice krups. I simply keep forgetting sandi but as you have shown, you can go deep in the mids and still have other decent lines

    Derek · 14/02/2017 at 20:50

    If you want Swallow, his spot is M7.

      Moustachio · 15/02/2017 at 08:42

      Depends entirely on rookies

StevieD · 14/02/2017 at 19:21

Love effort guys put in for us the humble community
So I thought I would make a league for the people here
JR's friends and fam
All are welcome
Keep up the good work jock, Higgo and crouching

Eric_the_Red · 14/02/2017 at 19:26

Mate that midfield will haunt my dreams tonight. I wish you the best of luck with it, but too many risky options and not enough solid options present there for my liking. I'd recommend downgrading 2 of Wingard, Heeney or Caddy to rookies and then upgrading 2 of Jack, O/Meara and Wines.

Rivo · 14/02/2017 at 19:35

Yet another great podcast gents! I wish I could see Higgos tan leather jacket and those tassels. I'm starting with Danger though. My PODs will be Sloane over Bont and JPK over Treloar. Hoping Swallow can generate enough cash to chase another premo in time for the byes. T-Mitch & Selwood still tempting. Beams scratched for now. Will see if he gets a run in the JLT.

SCaddict · 14/02/2017 at 19:50

Interesting No Danger Zone segment boys but sorry Higgo not starting with Danger will only result in constructing your own private Temple of Doom!

Betty · 14/02/2017 at 20:00

Hey jock if I ordered magazine today how long would it take to arrive. I live in melbourne

    jockreynolds · 14/02/2017 at 20:59

    Generally 3 working days mate, depending on where you are. In Melb should be pretty quick

      Betty · 14/02/2017 at 22:41

      thanks jocky

        jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:06

        Welcome mate – she rocked up yet?

Winter · 14/02/2017 at 20:16

Thoughts on Sloane, don't think he was talked about in the podcast.
Current mids are Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Sloane, Fyfe, SPP, Myers
Still deciding between Rocky, Selwood and Treloar…. Changes every day

    Rivo · 15/02/2017 at 07:45

    I have Sloane also. Very consistent and has plenty of home games to start the season. Of the other 3 to pick from, see what the JLT delivers, I would lean toward Rocky if fit.

      jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:06

      Can't go far wrong with the Sloane dog

Jack · 14/02/2017 at 20:16

Finished 250th 2015 and top 1500 last year and would like some feedback on my side and some discussions
Here's my side

Docherty, Laird, Adams
Marchbank, Keefe, Ryan
(Hibberd, doodee)

Danger, Pendles, Jpk, Fyfe
Murphy, swallow, McGrath, Mccluggage
(Powellpepper, myers, freeman)

Gawn, Goldstein

Dahlhaus, McRae, Ryder
McCarthy, bowes, Pickett
(McKay, eddy)

Scared about Sandilands if he lines up round 1 then I'll take the risk but see how he goes

    Derek · 14/02/2017 at 21:54

    I think a fit Goldy is the obvious R2. I need to see it first. That's why I'll be going with Sandi, give me some time and cash before getting Goldy, or whoever is R2.

    Norf have a great second half of season

    The BONT · 14/02/2017 at 21:59

    good team but there are a lot of dear rookies down grade a few to upgrade on to a premium

    Luskin Star · 15/02/2017 at 00:54

    Strong team. Only suggestion would be to move McGrath and McBags out of midfield and into their other position. Whatever they score will be of more value in def and fwds rather than mids.

      Jack · 15/02/2017 at 08:54

      They are in there for swing in both lines

    BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 20:10

    I believe you have gone a bit lite in the mids mate. An upgrade of murphy or swallow would be good. The best way to get the money for this change would be a downgrade or Goldy ( interrupted preseason) and one of the expensive rookies. Other than that team look great.
    Just my 2 cents

      BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 20:15

      Also good work on the rank for the last 2 years, I have start a league and trying to get a high league rank and it would be great if you could come for the ride. League code 185765

      Good luck with the year

Cooper · 14/02/2017 at 20:34

What about Jack Trengrove at 264,100 will he play and be any good just for a point of difference

    AMAC · 14/02/2017 at 20:47

    I don't think so Cooper. I don't think he is in Melbourne's best 22.

Benjamin Bretel · 14/02/2017 at 20:43

Hey fellas just thinking about fyfe.
has played an average of 13.8 games per season in the past 5 years at an average of 110.3 points not playing more then 20 games since 2011. If he does a play a full season he will average around 120 but a full season for fyfe is an 18/19 season. Fyfe will probably go into the season as one of the most selected players. When you compare these numbers to rockcliff he has played an average of 18.8 games per season in the past 5 years at an average of 110.4 . With a nearly identical 5 year average and rockcliff averaging 5 more games per season its intresting that one so many people are going fyfe over rockcliff. for these reasons i will be starting rockcliff over fyfe as a POD.

    Derek · 14/02/2017 at 21:51

    Rocky is more likely to get soft tissue injuries, always seems to happen.

    Fyfe has missed because of a broken leg and a big dead leg corky from little Sam Mitchell.

    Luskin Star · 15/02/2017 at 00:55

    Ive got them both. The very high ceiling with both outweighs the risk in my opinion.

MorrowSC · 14/02/2017 at 20:44

Surely a horror movie featuring this team isn't far off.. stuff of nightmares.

Cooper · 14/02/2017 at 20:46

My Midfield at the moment is,

Danger, JPK, Trelaor, Rockliff, Fyfe, Swallow, Powell-Pepper and Myers
(Freeman, Hibberd, Bolton)

Thoughts on getting Pendlebury in for someone I've got 100k to spend

    Derek · 14/02/2017 at 21:48

    Rocky will get injured

      jockreynolds · 14/02/2017 at 22:04

      Don't mind the Rock – just makes my bog the pants when he's in there alongside a Fyfe & a Swallow.. risk a hoy hoy. Coops – personally mate I'd switch JPK – only coz he can start the season a touch slow

        Hutto76 · 14/02/2017 at 23:12

        I reckon the captaincy will make him lift to yet another level. Fingers crossed as a Swans man. I'm seriously considering your man Geary on the same basis!

        Cooper · 15/02/2017 at 07:30

        Thanks Jock I'm thinking of keeping rocky and swapping out swallow for another premium like the Bont or Sloane, what are your thoughts on Gazza to start the season or is that another huge risk

AMAC · 14/02/2017 at 20:49

Great PODcast fellas! Can't wait for Thursday to give Coach Kings a go!

    jockreynolds · 14/02/2017 at 22:05

    Thanks very much AMAC! You'll love it mate – hope you can get amongst the cash son!

Sam_01 · 14/02/2017 at 20:54

Community I'm faced with the dilemma of
Pendles v JPK
Absolutely love pendles lock him every year being a piesman! But going jpk helps out with a heavy Rd 13 bye as I have treloar, Sloane and Fyfe. This also leaves me with a bit of extra cash
But can you really not start pendles!!

    Winter · 14/02/2017 at 21:21

    Can you take both and cut out Treloar

      Sam_01 · 14/02/2017 at 22:18

      Not an option absolutely set on treloar!

        Jakob · 14/02/2017 at 22:23

        You could swap Sloane for a Bont or Priddis if you want Pendles.

          Sam_01 · 14/02/2017 at 22:52

          Boys boys boys
          The others are set it's pendles or Kennedy haha, not ready to spend that much on the Bont just yet he is an absolute star just need to see another year out of him yet!

            Jakob · 14/02/2017 at 23:00

            Then the answer is obviously JPK.

    Luskin Star · 15/02/2017 at 00:58

    Noah was in short pants the last time pendles didnt finish top 5. No debate in my opinion

      Sam_01 · 15/02/2017 at 13:11

      Got to much love for each of these blokes done some rearranging and have gone swallow at m7
      They are both in lads

        Sam_01 · 15/02/2017 at 13:19

        Has caused another dilemma thought is it better to go sandi with Ryder or grundy and a fwd rookie, fwd like would look rather slim with Roughead at F3 as all, and surely the point generating capacity of Ryder/sandi is better than grundy and a rookie!!

      jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:07


    fatboyfat7 · 15/02/2017 at 14:21

    Had a similar-ish problem with the R13 bye in the mids. Result; No Fyfe… I'm aiming to avoid injury prone players as much as possible this year, got hit hard late last year when I was going very well and didn't have the trades to left to handle it. Saying that, still have Rocky and Swallow so go figure! Big 2 lessons learnt last year, avoid injury prone players and keep more trades for end of season!

      Derek · 15/02/2017 at 16:11

      Cognitive bias at work. Listen to yourself. Take out all the risk players and have a look at your team, you can always change it back

        Sam_01 · 15/02/2017 at 17:52

        i may just do that Derek! But taking these risks such as swallow sandi etc allows you to generate premium points and still generate top cash allowing you to charge up the ranks!

Dan · 14/02/2017 at 21:14

Danger is a set and forget Captain. Having this option is very underrated. Danger a must have.

    Moustachio · 15/02/2017 at 08:47

    … Never set and forget your captain in this game my friend! VC every week

hedski · 14/02/2017 at 21:15

$50k coming ur way Steeeve 😉

Derek · 14/02/2017 at 21:23

Where is Zac Dawson?

    BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 19:39

    Prop in one of the spots where it says rookies

TRIGGER HAPPY · 14/02/2017 at 21:25

100% heading down the highway to the Danger Zone.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one Higgo.

Caleb · 14/02/2017 at 21:51

Would love some thoughts on my team
(Def) Docherty, Adams, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Newman, Stewart)
(Mid) Danger, Pendles, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, Ainsworth, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Pickett, Hibberd)
(Ruck) Gawn, Sandi (Strandica)
(Fwd) Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Roughead, Bowes, Gallucci (Brown, Bolton)

Still tossing up between premium mids such as Gray and Treloar hoping for some help

    dashby1 · 15/02/2017 at 18:22

    Hey mate I have created an account to comment for the first time ever to tell you Ainsworth is a genuine CLINT of a selection, I don't see him in their round 1 team and as a small forward rookie for that price he would have to dominate JLT to be considered. Eade has already said Bowes is most likely to play, also your plan to throw in gray to your midfield would give you 4 blokes missing in round 9. Apart from that I like it

      Caleb · 15/02/2017 at 19:45

      Cheers I'll take that into consideration

      jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:08

      welcome dashby!

        dashby1 · 15/02/2017 at 22:40

        thanks jock, long time listener, love your work

          jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:42

          Thanks mate! Great to see you in here – the engine room of the joint. Look forward to kicking the SC tyres with you this season son

The BONT · 14/02/2017 at 22:04

one more midfielder to get $635,000 who do i get

Already have Danger, JPK, Treloar, Sloane, Fyfe, SPP, Myers

    Jakob · 14/02/2017 at 22:15


      Don't Blush Baby · 14/02/2017 at 22:29

      Rocky, He's had the best pre season , IMO ,I have a firmness that he will smash this year

        Jakob · 14/02/2017 at 22:35

        $600k a lot for someone with his kind of injury history.

          Don't Blush Baby · 14/02/2017 at 22:42

          Risk / Reward – I believe his injury issues have been because he wasn't fit enough , anyway opinions are like bums ,we all have one ,cheers

          BlakeyP · 16/02/2017 at 10:24

          Yes he is an injury. But best preseason in a long time, looking fit not the chubby guy from last year. Got a wake up call when he looked to leave Brisbane but no one would take him, so got something to prove. Lost the burden of being the Captain of a team that was being pumped most weeks, that can take its toll on a person. And last the giys cieling is up there with only Fyfe and Danger to compete with.

            Burnmen · 16/02/2017 at 10:54

            Was adamant not starting with Fyfe or Rocky, then saw rocky in a picture and couldn't believe the transformation. Locked. Still not quite convinced with Fyfe though. I know that sounds backwards………………

      Derek · 14/02/2017 at 23:05

      Selwood or Hanners

Baldge · 14/02/2017 at 22:37

Good evening community!
Love the podcast lads!
All coaches welcome to join the Victoria cup 207377

    jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:09

    Welcome to the community Baldgey

gator59 · 14/02/2017 at 23:06

Trying to form a very strong League

Please feel free to particpate

On Route "66 .. Code 909246

    Pitch 72 · 15/02/2017 at 12:31

    I'm in gator..

      gator59 · 15/02/2017 at 15:46

      thanks pitch

    The Ranger · 15/02/2017 at 13:35

    I'm in gator

      gator59 · 15/02/2017 at 15:46

      thanks ranger

    Nifty · 15/02/2017 at 14:42

    Jumped in Gator..

      gator59 · 15/02/2017 at 15:46

      thanks nifty

    hedski · 15/02/2017 at 16:24

    Reckon I got ur last spot Gator, cheers

      gator59 · 15/02/2017 at 16:40

      well done Hedski , cheers to all

Bear Grills · 14/02/2017 at 23:27

Does anyone know how to change your name against your team?

Ie instead of john – team name SC BEAST
It can read bear grills – team name SC BEAST?

    Moustachio · 15/02/2017 at 08:50

    Try the office of births deaths and marriages mate (or use a fake name on account creation)

      John · 15/02/2017 at 18:54

      Why would I want to change my name to SC BEAST?

Timchief · 14/02/2017 at 23:44

Hi all, great pod as usual lads. What's the communities view on coniglio? Gws will win plenty of games and points must be given to someone.

Progressive sc average over past few years and averaged approx 28 disposals per game.

    Moustachio · 15/02/2017 at 08:52

    Goes big when GWS do, and they will go big a lot this year. So much depth in that midfield though, points will be split.

    Kev · 15/02/2017 at 12:29

    Big talent in a loaded midfield, Tim. Check this out

    Timchief · 16/02/2017 at 18:08

    Thanks lads

throttlefinger · 14/02/2017 at 23:56

As you boys say in the Outback, "A bottler!" Going to try to set the alarm early on Thursday morn so I can get in on some CK action…at least wake around half time so I can do some revving.

My mids so far: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Jelwood, Fyfe, Smurph and 2 rooks. See if that changes any but concrete is starting to dry.


    jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:11

    Mate – we'll make a ridgey didge dyed-in-the-wool OCKER out of you yet! See you on the leaderboard old mate.. I'll be that bloke up top

      throttlefinger · 15/02/2017 at 22:33

      At the top holding the door for me to swing in.

Luskin Star · 15/02/2017 at 01:01

Keep seeing Powell Pepper name come up. Am i the only one concerned about his poor disposal efficency?

    Moustachio · 15/02/2017 at 08:53

    Not sure he is as much of a lock as ppl claim. We will see who is who in JLT

Canny the Manny · 15/02/2017 at 04:44

Joel Selwood will not be selected in my team due to a severe reading on the flog-o-meter.

    John · 15/02/2017 at 07:27

    That's good. He's in my team. Whether you think he's a flog or not is entirely your opinion. But he's a lock in my team. His early slow starts are a myth and Geelong have a soft draw early. Don't know if you can call one of the best players in the competition a flog but thats just my opinion.

    Derek · 15/02/2017 at 09:40

    he is still in the top 8 midfielders. this could be his last year of uber output. he will be in my starting team

Nathan · 15/02/2017 at 06:42

Currently running with
Hanners Selwood treloar Cripps Fyfe t Mitchell swallow and Myers
Treloar Cripps and Fyfe are my solid locks
Even with Cripps interrupted pre season I think he will come into the year ready to push for top10 mid

    John · 15/02/2017 at 07:27

    Get Danger in there. Just do it.

johnno2908 · 15/02/2017 at 07:34

Current team, tried to get 6 mids who can pump out the 130+ scores and even spread over the byes.

Any feedback appreciated. The Hunted v1:
DEF: Doch, Adams, Laird, VickersWillis, Newman, Ryan (Ridley, Stewart)
MIDS: Danger, Hannebery, Selwood, Rockliff, Fyfe, Titchell, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Bolton, Jarman)
RUCK: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica.)
FWD: Dahl, Caddy, Heeney, Ryder, Bowes, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

Gaveday · 15/02/2017 at 08:08

My team reveal is due today, but I'm pretty set on my team. I mean I made a lazy 4 changes already…….
Treloar Rocky Fyfe Cripps Dalh Heppell JOM swallow

    Derek · 15/02/2017 at 08:35

    Why is Dalh in your mids?

Budgie63 · 15/02/2017 at 08:31

Love the podcast as always, but it did get me thinking. Two oft used words that jumped from the podcast were STRUCTURE and RISK.

Structure; Most coaches seem driven by a predetermined structure and Higgo advises not to change your structure based on JLT. But given the uncertainty over many rookies; ie their roles, will they even play, we may find that we can't adhere to that predetermined structure. For mine all you can do at this point is assemble a short list of guns and midpricers you'd feel comfortable selecting. Once you've got more visibility on the rookie scene then you can begin to assemble a team. Rookies drive structure.

Risk; Much is made about avoiding the midprice madness risk and limiting your team to a minimum number of mid pricers, returning injured players or former premos. In line with my previous paragraph, what must also be considered is the risk taken onboard with rookies. If on the Thursday night before Rd 1 you have a team of rookie holes due to non-selection then unless you're confident of them playing very soon the risk of your season unravelling due to lack of cash generation must be considered high. The point here is that those with say a DEF 4-0-4 structure may suddenly find a weekly scramble to get 6 on the ground.

For mine, risk is minimised by selecting only the rookies who will play and have at least some sort of job security. Following that structure evolves and risk is mitigated with a suitable premo/mid balance.

    Derek · 15/02/2017 at 09:38

    over this pre season i ve had nearly every structure possible. I've kept some of the good ones, so depending on the rookies i have a plan.

    i have a bunch of rules i have used and tweaked over the past few seasons, the first one is: Start with the right rookies.

      neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 14:13

      Rookies are the easy bit Derek The last few years they sort themselves out even the 2nd batch are easy.What it depends on is research. I find my biggest worry is getting premos right and I fail miserably.God Rocky both twice even now danger and pendles locked then what I LIKE JPK JELWOOD HANNAS. and will probably get it wrong.given Fyfe M5 which two .I spend 8 HRS on this game daily mainly cause I love it and this community but its frustrating even Ryder F3 or Roughy. thinks I will chance Sandys health with a good warchest and go with the rough. cheers

        Derek · 15/02/2017 at 16:16

        I love your passion

        Have another read of higgos article in last years winner. It will give you comfort that only 7 of his starting keepers finish the year

        Early corrective trades, especially the premiums. Have a good war chest

        Aim for high ceiling players to finish the season

    jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:14

    Really enjoyed this Budgie – and you raise some EXCELLENT points here. A lack of MID rookies could really chuck the cat in with the pidgeons in the week leading into lockout.

Tuk Touk · 15/02/2017 at 08:33

Whos are the top 3 mids at GWS

    Touk tuk · 15/02/2017 at 08:34


    Yerp · 15/02/2017 at 11:39

    Coniglio, Shiel, Ward – followed by Scully, Griffen, Kelly, Whitfield,

Tommy · 15/02/2017 at 09:40

Great podcast lads. I'm tossing up over fyfe and treloar, can anyone help me here?

    Holty · 15/02/2017 at 10:37

    As people say on here, risk vs reward. Rockliffs ceiling is much higher but is a huge injury concern. Treloar will more than likely be a select and forget as he is very durable

    Holty · 15/02/2017 at 11:00

    Sorry Tommy, i have know idea why i mentioned Rocky. But you would still get the same response with Fyfe

      Derek · 15/02/2017 at 11:01

      i have both, but Fyfe was my first picked player

Rivo · 15/02/2017 at 10:04

Ok guys. Midfield selection dilemma…

Mids currently:
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Sloane, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Graham, Bolton).

JPK & Sloane at M3 & M4 or Alblett & Parker? Others?

    Kev · 15/02/2017 at 12:26

    JPK/Sloane. Both Gaz and Parker have had injury interrupted preseasons

      Rivo · 15/02/2017 at 13:17

      Thanks Kev. My brain is spinning over the options. Reckon JPK and Sloane are safe bets for 105+. Interested to know who your rollback mids might be if Sandi is a no show for season start?

        Kev · 15/02/2017 at 16:05

        My mids will stay the same, Rivo. Caddy and Roughy will be in the gun. Not sold in either one yet

Holty · 15/02/2017 at 10:52

Hi community.
League number 798041. All welcome

    Derek · 15/02/2017 at 11:02

    Bunnies are in

    The Ranger · 15/02/2017 at 13:37

    I'm in Holty, thanks.

    gator59 · 15/02/2017 at 15:49

    I've jumped in Holty

    Alf Busters · 15/02/2017 at 16:53

    Alf Busters is in

    Hart_attack · 15/02/2017 at 16:59

    Hart_attack is in for the win

    Holty · 15/02/2017 at 20:01

    Cheers lads. Looking forward to the season

    BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 20:45

    league full pal. But please feel free to join on code 185765

      hedski · 15/02/2017 at 20:57

      I'm in if OK? Cheers

      The Master · 16/02/2017 at 14:25

      Thanks Blakey, Im in, best of luck.

YeahTheBoys · 15/02/2017 at 11:16

Just a quick question for the community, is starting with all 3 of T.Adams Pendles and Treloar too much?

Derek · 15/02/2017 at 11:20

I think i'll start with sandi and no cover. Just don't think Ryder will be top 6 forward this year. I'll keep $175k in the bank so i can either jump on the Witts bandwagon or straight swap R2 (depends on any price changes, but i will have enough to get Steph as a good option)

team as is (before JLT) V3.1

Simpson, Adams, Laird, Hibberd (norf), Vickers-W, Ryan, (Stewart, Ridley)

Dangerfield, Hannebury, Treloar, Priddis, Sloane, Fyfe, SPP, Myers (Bolton, Ronke, Cousins)

Gawn, Sandi (Strd)

Dalhaus, McCrea, Cyril, McCluggage, Knight, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

$175k bank

Simpson seems like a POD, everyone has Docherty and i'm not sure about his role this year. Simpson is locked in.
Adams has too much upside. A genuine midfielder with Def status at a good price
Laird is in my best 22 and is the cheapest. Might even get some midfield time.

Hanners has more upside than JPK and will benefit more from TMitch leaving than JPK. JPK will be upgrade target.
Treloar is locked into the midfield, he won't play anywhere else, where Pendles might. pendles will be an upgrade once i'm happy with his role.
Priddis will go crazy with SMitch in the team this year, WCE have good draw
Sloane just makes my best 22, but his run of home games makes his selection easy
Fyfe was the first picked. Even if he cost $675k.

Cyril is my big POD. i've talked about him before locked.
McCluggage is a dead set gun and will play round 1
Knight is cheap and if he gets some time on the wing or midfield will be a good cash cow. (watch Turner as well)
the rest are rookies.

rookies will determine everything. At the moment i've only got 3 rookies that i'm certain will play round 1.

    Holty · 15/02/2017 at 12:52

    Nice team derek. And im saying that with the fact it looks nothing like mine. I like your pods in the midfield (all proven so no risks). Still find it to risky with Sandi but if he can get to those bye rounds without injury, you will be laughing. Priddis is in a nd out of my side as sharing the rd12 bye with danger and selwood. It is between selwood and priddis for that spot. Agree with knights although just cant fit him in my team at present. Good luck bud

      Derek · 15/02/2017 at 14:48

      Thanks Holty

      I joined your league, saw a few other good players in there, will be a top league.

      Still have a few places if anyone what's to take us on.

    The Ranger · 15/02/2017 at 13:33

    That ruck position is the biggest dilemma for me Derek.
    I've not looked at his numbers but from memory Martin didn't go so well when Archie Smith played with him last year (albeit he might have been coming back from that May hit too) so I'm staying away from him until we know if he's playing lone wolf or not.
    I've decided to wait and see how many mid rookies appear. If there's three decent onfield options then I'll go with five keeper mids and Grundy, if there's not then I'll maybe run six keepers in the mids and drop Grundy down to Sandi.

    I'm also a little concerned with trying to predict six keepers in the mids this year.
    With Fyfe and Ablett back and Rocky injury free it's harder than ever to predict the top eight mids this year.

      Derek · 15/02/2017 at 14:18

      It is hard to pick the top midfield this year, especially from number 5 to 15, all good players. And at the end their averages are not going to be massively different, so what if Priddis averages 108 and Rocky averages 110, only 40 pts over the season. It is the reliability that I'm valuing higher this year.

      I was burnt bad with injury last year, especially with premiums. this year, premium or not, injury early season they will be gone.

      Im not a Martin fan, I think it will be Goldy or Grundy, I was just holding enough cash at start to get a Martin if I had to, hopefully not

        The Ranger · 15/02/2017 at 15:15

        At one point I had Danger, Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe and Rocky in my team.
        I'd love to have the balls to start with them all but…

    neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 14:23

    Mind reader Derek refer to your last entry..Priddis is interesting slow starter what happened to JELWOOD great opening rounds and at the cattery agree with MCCLUGGAGE THOUGH last effort was poor and Turner good .

      I N Pieman · 15/02/2017 at 15:45

      Sandi & no cover at all. That's going to be a very nervous couple of months!

        Derek · 15/02/2017 at 16:18

        I have cash to cry into

          jockreynolds · 15/02/2017 at 22:17

          I love the strategem of CASH as coverage for Sandiballs Derek – love it.

      Derek · 15/02/2017 at 15:52

      if I downgrade Simmo to Mills I can squeeze Jelwood in. Is M7 too deep 😉

      team as is (before JLT) V3.2

      Adams, Laird, Mills, Hibberd (norf), Vickers-W, Ryan, (Stewart, Ridley)

      Dangerfield, Hannebury, Treloar, Priddis, Sloane, Fyfe, Selwood, SPP, (Myers, Ronke, Cousins)

      Gawn, Sandi (Strd)

      Dalhaus, McCrea, Cyril, Bolton, McKay, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

      $600 in bank.

        Keenbutclueless · 15/02/2017 at 15:57

        Love it. Really ballsy and the best use of Sandi. Great job Derek

          Keenbutclueless · 15/02/2017 at 16:16

          More I think about this, the more I like it.
          Let's say you need to give up the Sandi experiment in Round 3. You can give up any premo in the mids you like and bring in any premo ruck. You would still be able to go Murphy, Beams or Swallow if they are firing.
          Even if the Sandi experiment works, but you find a fall away in your rookies in Defence or Forwards, can also do a corrective at round 3 without weakening your mids (still at M6).
          So, to me, this structure gives the maximum reward for the risk of Sandi, and gives you the maximum flexibility to fix any early problems with structure. Obviously depends on rookies, but I really like this.

        neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 16:39

        Bad risk to take Jelwood at M7. D3 and F3 is a risk too great Derek imo particularly D3 where Adams and Mills are not uber premiums .Hit the reverse button as quick as possible mate.Mills a good D4 with Myers on field Selwood to best rookie cheers

          Keenbutclueless · 15/02/2017 at 17:42

          Hi Neil. Have read a lot of your posts and I tend to agree with most things you say. I don't want to come across as argumentative, but I would like to make a few points.
          Mills as D3 versus Mills as D4. We should only select people at D3 or D4 if we genuinely believe they will be top 8 by year end. If we really believe that, then it shouldn't matter if we pick them at D3 or D4. The logical conclusion from what you say is that D4 is speculative or hedging your bets, so doesn't really matter if it comes off. Derek has posted many times that he thinks Mills is an absolute gun and has no doubt that he will be top 8 by Seasons end. The courage of that conviction should mean that it won't matter if it is D3.
          I think the greatest advantage of this structure is the flexibility to pull a corrective trade if it's not working. If you lock yourself into a D4 and F4 structure, it's much harder to fix. You have to find a like for like. You will also notice that he had enough DPP rookies to easily adjust if he needs to.
          It's a radical structure. It's way out there. It looks different to anything else we have seen. But it does have something. I just reckon that it's really worth giving deeper consideration before hitting the reset button.

            neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 18:22

            Hi Keen wont use your last bit because you are far from that and that's the beauty of this forum Keen Was just about to write how bad my judgement was when you next comment came up. You are so correct AND I hope Derek kept it, Your explanation has altered my views its actually a great move.Personally not going with Mills but Tmac but using DEREKS idea THANKS keencluey neil

              Derek · 15/02/2017 at 20:02

              Mills will be a gun and close to top 6 defenders by year end. Until you see him up close, you don't realise how tall he is. I've seen him a lot at the Swans academy, my son is there as well, and he played 100% midfield and was so far better than anyone else it wasn't funny.

              It was a pity he did so well in defence last year.

                neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 22:02

                IS ..the lad a fullforward like his old man Derek.its a wonder he is not into league. Great game mate and even though a vic been a paid up member of the mighty Eels for years.Might go well this year looking forward to our knew stadium apparently a ripper. Sorry this is an afl forum cheers might kick 9 goals 1

                  Derek · 15/02/2017 at 23:20

                  Mills was a gun rugby player, can tackle.

                  Jump on the sharks bandwagon neil

                    neil.DemonsDelight · 16/02/2017 at 15:05

                    Turn it up Derek Sterlo hayne pricey never forgive me sharks good enough though cheersDerek trying to work your M7 system very hard and small warchest

        neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 19:37

        like it DEREK but McCluggage and Knight for Bolton and McKay to raise funds needs tweeking as I pointed out to Cluey trying it i.e. going M 7 But like yourself Derek came up 100000 short .Solution is either weaker mid prem or like yourself cull high price rooks .To me Bolton McKAY Pickett Smith and Eddy wont cut it. I am going to keep trying but not at that expense.Sorry mate

          Keenbutclueless · 15/02/2017 at 20:39

          Yeah. Feel like I have the same problem. Tried

          Def. Adams Laird Mills Newman Hibberd Ryan (Stewart Long)
          Mid. Danger JPK Selwood Treloar Sloane Fyfe Titchell Myers (SPP, Williams, Ronke)
          Ruck. Gawn Sandi (Stnnnndk)
          Fwd. Dahl Macrae Caddy Pickett Bolton Cameron (Eddy Smith)
          I have 47k left. Gives me a bit to upgrade these rookies, but not enough at this point to feel comfortable. It's close, but I agree with you Neil, not quite there.
          Hate to say it, but if Danger or Gawn go down before the season starts, this comes right back into play. But I am not going in without them unless they are injured.

            neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 21:02

            got there but ..Pendles to hanna tick turner to Williams same team good kid even tmac to you guessed it Mills that's 30 plus 50 plus 70 enough to get my M7 BONT NOW MIDS LOOK LIKE ..Danger JPK Hanna Selwood Fyfe Kelly and Bont Kelly ave 90 2016 and imo D6 gives me flexibility in defence Got to look at it closely Unlike Derek forwards haven't suffered too much WILLIAMS for Turner thanks again both Derek and Keen and cluefull early days but likeing it cheers Neil DEMON DELIGHTS

            neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 22:19

            That's a great squad k.Defense solid good rooks ..MIDS as per Dereks Dream goes M7 good rooks Rucks fit D-D requirements FORWARDS 2 dogs Caddy dpp ah see your point Eddy/ Smith ok but ..pickett/Bolton/Cameron the weak link ..but you still have 47 k Cameron could be ok PICKETT could easily be upgraded leaving you only Bolton and who knows too early my 3 are Bowes Gallucci and WELL AH Poholke same risk just a tad better than Dereks but that's speculative still its a great move but like you would feel more comfortable with a decent bank Work in progress …cheers

        Leeds17 · 15/02/2017 at 20:03

        Geeez it's hard to see MIlls improving that much in his 2nd season I know he'll get more mid-time but don't forget he'll lose his intercept points when that happens, he's only knocked out 2 tons at 102 and 104, his consistency is super impressive for a 19yrs though..

    Shake n bake · 15/02/2017 at 15:57

    Haha those 2 blue boys down back frustrated you last year l think Derek good to see you start with at least one of them! My only difference l went Doch. With most teams ive seen on this site not to many like myself & you Derek share the same view on Hanners im starting with him aswell. Good team all the best mate.

    Bamsko · 15/02/2017 at 17:15

    My concern with Cyril is that he hasn't played a full season since 2008

      SCaddict · 15/02/2017 at 17:41

      Not sure we'll be able to talk Derek out of Cyril.

      I can hear the hammy ping already followed by a tormented "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" posted on this site in fairly quick succession.

      But I doubt anything can top his Lobbe disaster of 2016 though, despite numerous community warnings in the preseason. 🙂

      Derek · 15/02/2017 at 19:40

      That seems to be a common thing. I'd like to know how many of the best 22 have played a full season in the last 3 years. I will research tonight.

    Krups · 15/02/2017 at 18:49

    Maybe Gunston over Cyril?
    Love the Priddas pick

JerseyforHawks · 15/02/2017 at 11:23

Simply spectacular input, but perhaps a new low in podcast imagery. Giving new meaning to "Danger: slippery when wet'.

DonTheSash · 15/02/2017 at 11:39

Agree with Jock here, you can look at all the statistics you want but if you don't have a bloke who's churning out consistent 140+ scores, you'll fall behind the pace (especially in leagues). A viable captain option every week is priceless IMO.Never been out of my team.

Also community, my midfield is currently : Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Z Merrett, Fyfe and T Mitchell. Thoughts on Merrett?


    Kev · 15/02/2017 at 12:18

    The big unknown for me is how Zerrett goes with everyone back. Only Stanton missing tomorrow night for Essendon's midfield so should get a good indicator of how he will go.

    Make a call on him after JLT2 and 3

Clock Management · 15/02/2017 at 12:55

What a Wednesday, called in sick to work, listening to Podcasts while reading JR Mag.

Very good debate over Danger, I will be starting him but higgo and his jacket make a good point.

Danger + SPP = 140+60 = 200

Beams and Murphy have the capacity to score over this no doubt. But the valuable option that danger is for captain is too much to overlook.

Priddis has been a starter for many years for me and will again this year..

Robbie Gray is an upgrade in rd 10 for sure.
A pod im considering for f4 is Jack Martin. Mark my words this kid is amazing.

Remember the year after O'meara lit it up everyone was saying Martin would be better.

They weren't wrong, this issue is his size, however he has gained 4-6 kgs over last year.

    Keenbutclueless · 15/02/2017 at 14:08

    If you really feel SPP will only score 60, then you shouldn't have him on field, in my opinion. He should be a bench rookie only. if a key rookie like SPP is such a low scorer, then surely his job security is not great. It also raises the question if our expectations of our rookies are so low, is GnR as a strategy the right call this year? If it still is, do we modify it that we will be forced to consider more the higher priced rookies more than the lower priced based on job security and take less cash generation and slower to reach full premo? Does that then close the gap with mid priced teams.

    I Guess this might be just nerves ahead of JLT because rookies usually emerge. Just musing on the possibility however that if SPP remains the best choice and we think 60 is his best output, do we reconsider structure? I remember Pieman's write up if SPP. It was one of the very first ones. He said that SPP was a bench rookie only. Given our structure, we all have him on field. Even Pieman himself.

    Anyway, rambling now. Will just have to see what happens in JLT

      neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 16:26

      All the top rookies will be like that we just have to sort the good out. Already McGrath and McCLUGGAGE have had bad hit outs way too early to form an opinion at present. SPP Bowes Gallucci all look good..Thinking Roughy is too cheap to ignore JS is good and trained the house down tonight

    The_Hyphen · 16/02/2017 at 12:45

    Just remember though Clock that if danger is skipper his score obviously doubles too so if he scores 140 and Pendles 120, then that's an extra 40 points danger grabs you which is where it's harder to pick up elsewhere. Not to mention if he drops a 200 which we've seen he's capable of how hard that will be to make up…

Lord Supercoach · 15/02/2017 at 13:47

DEF: Laird, Johannisen, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Ryan, Stewart (Newman, Berry)
MID: Pendlebury, J.Kennedy, Hannebery, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Myers (SPP, Hibberd, Bolton)
RUCK: Gawn, Martin (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Caddy, Bowes, Pickett, Eddy (Gallucci, Smith)

Looking at locking away as much midfield spots early, banking on Hartlett returning to form in the future. Myers to move to Dangerfield at a later stage once he drops price *Fingers crossed*

JLT series will be massive this year, play the kids and let us see their goods.

    I N Pieman · 15/02/2017 at 15:40

    My Lord no Danger. You might need Myers & your best 2 rookies cash to get him in. Personally I'm not keen on that idea

      Lord Supercoach · 15/02/2017 at 15:45

      As much as I appreciate Danger and all his beauty, my spider senses are tingling with that average he produced last year wont be replicated. As many different combinations I've replicated in my head, nothing lets me produce Dangerfield without killing the structure I wish to produce. My POD will be not having Danger in my team.

      Between you and I though, Pendlebury may get scratched depending on certian circumstances and a Danger may appear prior to Round 1.

        I N Pieman · 15/02/2017 at 16:46

        I like the idea of having Danger & Pendles as C options as well as Gawn. Expensive but points are points

          hedski · 15/02/2017 at 17:01

          Throw Fyfe in there too Pieman

    Hart_attack · 15/02/2017 at 16:58

    Question, if archie smith is named do you still go in with martin? I also have him. for what its worth i think the 3rd man up rule will make coaches employ a 1 ruck men strategy and martin is a big mobile bloke with a big tank ahoul be the goods

      LordSupercoach · 15/02/2017 at 18:40

      I see only the stars for Stefan, he carried an injury last year and still produced good output. The kid is just built right. Look and leave.

Derek · 15/02/2017 at 14:38

Thanks K. Selwood is so in and out of team, it depends on what day it is. I took him out when I read about Sloanes home ground form, but like I said Sloane is just in my best 22 but maybe he isn't. There might be s but of Bias as I really don't like Geelong (it's a hawthorn thing).

The bye problem will hit most people who are starting with Dalh, Docherty, Gawn and a Syd mid.

I was/am very keen on Mills, will be 100% midfielder by the end of the year. In any other year he would be in best 6 defenders. I wanted to go Guns n rookies this year, but Sandi offers good value and a chance to have a look at Goldy and Grundy.

I do have $175k burning hole in my pocket, Knight may become Roughie

Buttonsticher · 15/02/2017 at 15:29

coachkings link not working for me. Anyone else having problems with it?

Hart_attack · 15/02/2017 at 16:20

Doc, adams, laird, keefe, ryan, newman, stewart, ridley
Danger, pendels, jpk, treloar, rocky, fyfe, Myers, spp, hibberd, bolton graham
Gawn, martin, sterndickn
Dahl, caddy, ryder, bowes, black, pickett, Smith, eddy


Lost faith in swallow, juat dont think he will get it done at this stage but he is in and out of my team, as is pendels. Something tell me he will toyed, with because of mr buckhead himself and will be an uograde target

Havent put thought into byes as yet either so im sure this team will change.

What do you think community?

    Clock Management · 15/02/2017 at 17:54

    Don't need ryder as your not starting Beachlands, I reckon you will ditch Keefe after the JLT after you see his brillant scores of 50. other than that premos look good. Really like rocky pick

      Hart_attack · 15/02/2017 at 19:20

      I guenuinely think that ryder will be a top 6 fwd playing as the #1 ruck and will come in handy for dpp.. at very worst there is very little risk involved as fwd line is fickle this yr.. but if roughy looks the goods hes likely to be in my team

        Leeds17 · 15/02/2017 at 19:29

        Can't see him going under 90 and potential for 105, just his injury history worries me.. along with his bye.

          Hart_attack · 15/02/2017 at 19:49

          What player doesn't come with injury history lol risk vs reward i guess, if he can average over 90, which i beleive he will easily, he should be a valid selection at good value

            BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 22:54

            I very much agree that Ryder comes with little risk vs reward. Wont lose baring injury

gator59 · 15/02/2017 at 16:25

Have one spot left to fill the league,, On Route'"66.. Code 909246.. It's going to be a very competitive one

    hedski · 15/02/2017 at 17:09

    Not sure I did get last spot mate looks like there is still one there

T-mitch · 15/02/2017 at 16:41

I'm hoping to make a league that can challenge for top 10 league rank, I finished 103 overall last year and want a big challenge so if your keen and hoping to finish inside top 2% jump in

League code: 164927

    The Master · 15/02/2017 at 18:34

    I'm in T-mitch. well done on finishing 103rd last year, I finished 552 last year hoping to get better. best of luck

    Holty · 15/02/2017 at 20:41

    Fair effort t-mitch. Great work. I would love to join but last 2 years have been below par. Should let the experts in b4 me.

    Andos · 15/02/2017 at 21:42

    Just joined T-mitch, thanks for having me! Been top 1% the last three years.

      Bombers56 · 16/02/2017 at 09:37

      Just joined, finished 3,497 last year, not sure what percentage that is, so looking to improve this year.

boogiewookie · 15/02/2017 at 16:46

Thoughts community??

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Scharenberg, Hibberd, Ryan (Stewart, Long)
MID: Danger, JPK, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Watson, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Pickett, Graham)
RUCK: Grundy, Sandilands (Strndica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Ryder, Roughy, Knight, Galluci (Durdin, Eddy)

$98,800 left to tinker.

Treloar in for Bont? Not sold on Galluci … do like Watson at the price though – a premium with a point to prove.
Anyway, those are the bones of my 2017 campaign (until 10 minutes before round 1 when I scrap the whole thing and start from scratch).

    Hart_attack · 15/02/2017 at 16:55

    Id do it, i thibk theres a few question marks over bont with 3rd man up rule and tagging whereas treloar is a points machine and on my opinion coukd dethrone pendles as sc beast of the pies… i watched the game late last yr where he didnt youch it first quarter and went on to tear the game apart score 150, locked from that moment

    But i think the watson call, whilst gutsy, coukd prove costly, new midfield brigade of the future will see him on the outer and possibly up fwd

      BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 19:32

      Iam goin to have to agree with Hart Attack here. Treloar over Bont think less people will have him and he will score more overall. Watson is done as a premium mids. If you want someone in that price range I would take beams of fit due to his cieling or for 60k more you get Heppel who is going to.go up while Watson goes down.

Alf Busters · 15/02/2017 at 16:57

Hi community.
2nd year SuperCoach player. Would love some competition. Please join my league. All welcome

Tommo · 15/02/2017 at 17:10

Version 822 of my team lads so do your best and make me start again 😉

DEF: S.Docherty, H.Shaw, T.Adams, M.Scharenberg, N.Newman, T.Stewart (E.Vickers-Willis, L.Ryan)

MID: Danger, DePendlebury, JPK, R.Sloane, N.Fyfe, D.Swallow, SPP, D.Myers (C.Brown, J.Graham, B.Ronke)

RUCK: M.Gawn, B.Grundy (L.Strndica)

FWD: JJK, Dahl, P.Ryder, J.Roughead, J.Pickett, S.Bolton (T.Smith, B.Eddy)

Do go easy on me lads, cheers

    Jakob · 15/02/2017 at 17:46

    Looks good although I would only have Ryder as F3 if I needed backup for Sandy.

    hedski · 15/02/2017 at 17:50

    Pretty slick Tommo, stick Hibberd (norf) on ya mid pine for a link to Adams if your going to take him.

      Tommo · 15/02/2017 at 18:45

      Done, cheers for thar

    Clock Management · 15/02/2017 at 17:53

    Agree with Jakob, throw Ryder in the shitcan but other than that a very respectable team

      Tommo · 15/02/2017 at 18:46

      Not sure who I could trade him for though and if he is going to be #1 ruckman then I figure I might risk it

    The BONT · 15/02/2017 at 21:23

    Highly rate you team mate but if you wanted to you could get sandi for grundy and then a premium mid for swallow

David · 15/02/2017 at 17:49

What does everyone think about Jobe Watson as an option ? Should average well over price.

    Clock Management · 15/02/2017 at 17:52

    Yeah he will, but better options for mine. I won't have any midprices in midfield but if i did id take beams, murphy, Watson in that order.

    Too many question marks, role? will he play more forward? Pass

    Jakob · 15/02/2017 at 18:01

    No for me because i doubt he will be anywhere near a top 10 mid. He's 32, hasn't played in 18 months and will probably take a backseat to other Essendon midfielders.

    Danners · 15/02/2017 at 18:18

    Won't be a top 10 midfielder though and there isn't enough cash to be made with him

One's Bowler · 15/02/2017 at 18:03

Am I the only one going in without Gawn and Danger?

BCKS Adams Laird Hodge Thurlow McGrath Sharenberg (Hibberd Ryan)
Centres Hanners Parker Treloar Bont T Mitchell Swallow Myers Freeman (Pepper Berry Bolton)
Ruck Grundy Sandilands (Strandica)
Forwards Deleidio Caddy Motlop Ryder Roughead hoskin-elliot (eddy pickett)

Clownish? think it's a POD and their prices will come down? thoughts?

    Jakob · 15/02/2017 at 18:07

    The thought of this is giving me an aneurysm.

    Clock Management · 15/02/2017 at 18:17

    It could work if your going for league win. However it gives you no chance in overall barring injury.

    Kev · 15/02/2017 at 18:36

    Frees up a lot of $$$ but you've spent it on midpricers. Deledio is a trap

    neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 21:17

    WOW 9 MIDPRICERS no way my friend forwards very weak without one or two dogs your correct though clownish and lots of pods but not for me cheers

    Moustachio · 16/02/2017 at 23:39

    More concerned that you don't have Fyfe. Serious teams only please ^^

Krups · 15/02/2017 at 18:38

Steveeve mate come on. Are you on the rum cans bloke? Worst team i have ever seen on here.

Dave2008 · 15/02/2017 at 18:51

I have been tinkering like everyone and have two teams that I would love your opinion on. The rookies are in most cases placeholders you would think until after the pre season comp and teams are named. I’m not selecting Ryder until possibly after his rd 9 bye as I have set and forget rucks. I have 20/25/18 players available for the byes if they all play (very unlikely) so will balance this a bit more.

Team A
D Shaw Adams Houli Keefe Scharenberg Ryan Hewett Long
M Danger Pendles Sloane Fyfe Shiel Murphy SPP Myers Pickett Bolton Graham
R Gawn Martin Strnadica
F Dal MacRae Caddy Roughy Dear Hayward Rioli Eddy

Team B
D Doc Adams Laird Keefe Scharenberg Ryan Hewett Long
M Danger Pendles Sloane Fyfe JPK Witherdon SPP Myers Pickett Bolton Graham
R Gawn Goldy Strnadica
F Dal MacRae Franklin Roughy Dear Hayward Rioli Eddy

So it comes down to:
Shaw Houli Shiel Murphy S Martin Caddy v Doc Laird JPK Witherdon Goldy Franklin

I have tried with team A to fit another premium mid in (Murphy) I didn't really want Shiel but couldn't afford any better. So I’m leaning towards Team B at this early point unless anyone can suggest otherwise?


    Sam_01 · 15/02/2017 at 19:13

    liking the look of team B a bit better davo
    – Not sure on going both scharenberg and Keefe, could drop one to a cheaper rookie and bank 40k
    – Goldy has been managing a little bit of injury ive heard so could drop him down to the emerging grundy or big stef martin which will bank you 60-100k
    – Franklin being a key position player im sceptical about, seems caddy will get a run through the richmond mid and may be a bit more consistent scorer for you this will also bank up roughly 30k
    So now you have 180k in the bank (not sure how much you had left over) and could kick up Swallow in the mid! just some minor changes that probably wont hurt your point scoring but frees up a bit of cash!
    Not a fan of Houli or sheil! Murphy is a bit of a risk also in team A.You could drop murphy to swallow then upgrade both houli and sheil!

      Dave2008 · 15/02/2017 at 20:00

      Thanks Sam!
      Yer if it works bye wise then I think Keefe and Sberg are both in Pies plans if fit. Goldy yes good point I think Grundy and Martin are the only cheaper rucks I would consider. Not too many options in the forwards are there! Has Caddy ever been a potential 100 ppg scorer? Yes that is a good option as far as team A. How is your team looking?

        T-Mitch · 15/02/2017 at 20:14

        I'm going against many in the community but I think caddy is a trap, I won't go near

          Dave2008 · 15/02/2017 at 20:22

          Yer I was leaning that way but just lack of forward options

            Derek · 15/02/2017 at 23:48

            I don't think he is that good, but this year you only need to average 100 to be top 6 forward

Derek · 15/02/2017 at 19:54

Where's Wayno?

    hedski · 15/02/2017 at 20:07

    Touring with Queen???

      Holty · 15/02/2017 at 20:34

      Love it. Haha

        hedski · 15/02/2017 at 21:00

        Can you imagine Wayno bustin out Bohemian Rhapsody?

Supercoach Spud · 15/02/2017 at 20:26

Sloane or Pendles
and doch or simpson
help with any part of team and $53,450 in bank

    Top Hawk · 15/02/2017 at 21:03

    Pendles and the Doc. No if, no buts.

Holty · 15/02/2017 at 20:33

Damn you community. I have been adament i will not even consider Sandi this year. I hadnt even tried him in any side id created. Then i start seeing some sides with him in and think, that doesnt look half bad. So in the last hour i have trialed some teams with Sandi and unfortunately it already looks better. I see him as only beneficial to my side if he gets me to the bye rounds. So community, who thinks he can survive until then?

    Anti-sandi · 15/02/2017 at 21:21

    I reckon he's old and lanky and shit

    Keenbutclueless · 15/02/2017 at 21:33

    Have a look at Derek's idea to go to M7 with Sandi. You essentially need a mid pricer in Def or Fwd to make it work. In Derek's case Mills at D3. It gives the ultimate reward for the Sandi risk IMO. It gives great flexibility in correctives. It does heavily rely on the cheaper rookies. But so far it's the best model I have seen using Sandi.

      Holty · 15/02/2017 at 21:54

      Cheers mate. Having sandi has essentially given me someone who i think will give a similar output to martin but allows me to squeeze in kennedy into my forward line. Injuries have stuffed me last few years though so reluctant to pick the injury risks again

        BlakeyP · 15/02/2017 at 22:48

        I believe it maybe a bigger risk not to go him at the moment. Have Ryder forward if sandi get injured swap out for rookie you dont have. Your not goin to lose with Ryder he wont drop in price and you have the well need back up for the big men that always get hurt or rested

    AMAC · 15/02/2017 at 22:46

    Don't depair Holty…… Witts is here!

      Burnmen · 16/02/2017 at 10:52


Tjd · 15/02/2017 at 21:25

Great work jock been waiting for this podcast :))

Hey lads how's everyones squads coming along? Just wondering has anyone else caught themselves up in the fact that they don't have much vary in which teams their players are from? I seem to have ended up with about 11 different teams in my starting field selection and have quite a few double ups in player per team including a 4 (Collingwood) – want it to be 5 with treloar but I understand that is probably too much. Is this the case for anyone else? Should this be a worry for me??

neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 21:27

Maybe not even that long Hotly even 150000 increase would be great and if he fails I will flick a mid and get a swallow and Grundy Happy for him to increase whilst waiting for the better of Grundy Goldy or Steph Cheers Neil

    AMAC · 15/02/2017 at 22:58

    150k is sub ultimate/optimum
    general theory recognises that a trade is worth 200K
    minimum effective appreciation should be 200K
    150k is close but reserved for rookies @ position 10-15

      Moustachio · 16/02/2017 at 23:34

      Not sure which Supercoach Gospel youre gettin this stiff from, but it is not that often we get 200k out of rookies, certainly it is not the minimum. Regardless of the number, also remember that when you finally cash in a rookie, a large chunk of the season has already been played. So in terms of R1 dollars, the value of a trade becomes substantially less than 200k.

The BONT · 15/02/2017 at 21:29

D. Swallow or McCluggage

    Don't Blush Baby · 15/02/2017 at 21:49

    Bont, I asked the same Q a few weeks ago and it was a unanimous Swallow because he's done it before where as Luggage hasn't.

    AMAC · 15/02/2017 at 23:02

    Starting team? probably neither.
    But as top scorer by points? Swalldog

    Burnmen · 16/02/2017 at 10:35

    Brisbane rookie for 200k? No way. Doesn't look AFL ready either.

    MC · 16/02/2017 at 12:50


neil Demons delight · 15/02/2017 at 22:28

Havent seen Raj or the guy that nearly won except for that brilliant move of Nick R. cant remember his name. Both are exceptional at this and would welcome there views Come on boys give us your wisdom cheers Neil

wolfman1226 · 16/02/2017 at 09:14

BACKS : Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Scharenberg, keeffe, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)

MIDS: Danger, Pendlebury ,Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Gallucci , Powell-Pepper, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Graham)

RUCKS: Gawn, Goldy (Strnadica)

FWDS: Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Pickett, Bolton,( Smith, Eddy)

need some supercoach community wisdom cheers

    BlakeyP · 16/02/2017 at 10:35

    You need another premo mid at least. Most people will be batting 5 with swallow or 6 prem through the mids. to get the money I would down grade Goldy due to interrupted preseason and bring in swallow. Or down grade Goldy and one of your premo forward and bring in a Premo mid.
    Team looks got but I would make one of those changes

    Burnmen · 16/02/2017 at 10:45

    Looks pretty good, although a bit cookie cut.

    Thin in the mids, although if say 4-5 guys out of your 6 mid rookies rookies get named round one, it could be a masterstroke.

    I'd probably ditch Keefe myself, doesn't really score well. Best averages….

    2013 (7 games) Ave 67.4
    2014 (18 games) Ave 61.6

    So it might be a slow burn and crap on field scores. Will help you drop ranks and fall behind in general. If Hibberd is named you could run him in the back line instead, should score similarly and is cheaper.

    Goldstein is having Knee troubles again afaik, signs the big man is breaking down, not getting him this year myself, until he proves himself. This seems risky but I'd suggest using a cheap ruck in R2 like Ryder/Sandi/Witts if you can. It will help other lines that are rookie heavy by eliminating one too.

      t-Mitch · 16/02/2017 at 12:04

      I disagree with the above, I think it's the perfect structure, as long as we have all rookies playing it's the same structure I'll be using, which has had me top 200 2 years running, strictly guns and rookies with the exception of Roughead. I just have a couple different players, think your on a winner, good luck

    Kevan · 16/02/2017 at 13:01

    I also have your structure wolfman1226, agree with T-mitch. Different premos, but close enough to full G&G.
    Def: Doch/Laird/McGovern/Scharenberg/four rookies.
    Mid; Danger/Hanners/Jelwood/Treloar/Fyfe/six rookies.
    Fwd;JJK/Macrae/Cyril/Roughie/Knight/three rookies.
    Bye round premos/0/4/4/5(includes Roughie).

    wolfman1226 · 16/02/2017 at 13:47

    thanks for the input guys much appreciated

    Don't Blush Baby · 18/02/2017 at 09:29

    Like Kennedy up front,looking at doing the same ,could in the be top 6 FWD IMO, not sure about Bont no 3rd man up now,Sloane might miss R1,good luck

Touk tuk · 16/02/2017 at 12:09

How does the community rate callan ward?

    Cameron · 16/02/2017 at 16:45

    Had him last year, got super frustrated with his output when he got lost in contests with the all-star midfield raking points away from him.
    Not a top 10 Mid IMO, but worth could be an interesting POD

MC · 16/02/2017 at 12:50

Midfield is causing me the most stress this year. There are so many great options. I'm currently running with Swallow at M8 but that seems way too heavy and will likely change

    Derek · 16/02/2017 at 15:05

    If money no object, who would you like in your mids.

    Pretend we are at round 14 and the byes are over, your still a chance for #1. Who do you want in your mids?

BlakeyP · 16/02/2017 at 13:47

Got a league up and going trying for top 20. If ya keen feel free to join on code 185765. Welcome

    gator59 · 16/02/2017 at 14:06

    Already in thanks Blakey

zakvb · 17/02/2017 at 20:21

Def: Adams, Laird, Johannisen, Hurley, Keefe, Vickers-willis (ryan, long)
Mid: Danger, Jpk, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, Myers, Powell-pepper (Hibberd, graham, ronke)
Ruck: gawn, witts (sterndicka)
Fwd: Dahlhaus, motlop, ryder, roughead, balic, Bolton (Smith, eddy)
$282,300 left in the bank, not sure what to do with it got a coupla ideas tell us your thoughts
Witts to a 450-500k ruck
Swallow to premo mid
Ryder and roughie to 500k fwds
Or chuck in another mid pricer pod somewhere
I know forward lines a bit risky but im keen on motlop
Cheers let me know what ya reckon.

    Don't Blush Baby · 18/02/2017 at 08:55

    Sloane looks he won't play R1due a facial injury,I had Bont but took him out as 3rd up in the ruck will hurt his output imo,I haven't seen Motlop in any sides ,ballsy but could be a winner but not for me, same with Witts but you have heaps of cash to rectify,probs too much,Cheers mate

Dave2008 · 17/02/2017 at 21:07

D Doc Adams Laird Keefe Scharenberg Ryan Hewett Long
M Danger Pendles Sloane Fyfe JPK Swallow Witherdon SPP Myers Pickett Bolton
R Gawn Goldy Strnadica
F Dal MacRae Heeney Roughy Dear Black Rioli Eddy

Who would you pick ?

JPK and Montagna

Coniglio and Docherty

    Fantasy_Wannabe · 19/02/2017 at 01:01

    Option 2. Great consistency

Stav · 18/02/2017 at 10:59

G'day Community. First time playing SuperCoach in about 10 years. In a pretty competitive league at work so thought I'd find an edge. Please take a look at my team for now and let me know your thoughts.

Docherty, Adams, Laird, Hampton, Ryan, Stewart (Scharenberg, Z.Guthrie)

Dangerfield, Z.Merrett, Treloar, Rockliff, Gray, Fyfe, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Graham)

Gawn, Grundy (Strndica)

Dahlhaus, Caddy, Roughead, Knight, Bowes, Black (Smith, Eddy)

5.6k left. Docherty could easily become Simpson. Not set on Merrett. Have been tossing up between Grundy and Sandi/Ryder. Won't bring in Sandi without Ryder. Feel like either way my forward line is my weakest line by far.


Fantasy_Wannabe · 19/02/2017 at 01:00

Hey Guys,

Quite new to this and basically am wanting a breakout year to setup my fantasy career for many years to come….

In the past I've had two eyes on making money and no eyes on who I field every week. Basically I need some tips so I at least start well.

Please note I keep changing my rookies as I guess we all will until teams are named for round 1. Also I'm aware I have a few mid priced. So here goes:

DEF: Shaw, Adams, JJ, Thurlow, Scharenberg, Hampton (J. Smith & L. Ryan)
MIDS: Rocky, JPK, Fyfe, Watson, S. Selwood, Murphy, O'Meara, Swallow (J. Pickett & M. Hibbard)
RUCK: Martin & Witts (D. Cameron & O. McInerney)
FWD: Dahl/Macrae, Caddy, Touk Miller, Elliott/Roughy, Lovell, MCCluggage (Black & Himmelberg)

Thoughts please

    ThatGuy · 19/02/2017 at 17:23

    Your team is very high risk meaning high reward. In my opinion, you need more certain premiums. Watson is risky for a premium, Rocky is risky. Perhaps look at adding pendles.

      Fantasy_Wannabe · 19/02/2017 at 17:59

      Thanks. So my midfield is now:

      Rocky, Danger, Pendles, Murphy, swallow, O'meara, Fyfe, SPP.

      Bench Hibbard and Pickett.

      Is that better?

The BONT · 19/02/2017 at 22:04

Hey Community how does everyone thik them team is looking

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Scharenberg, Newman, Vicker-willis ( Stuart & Ryan)
MIDS: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Treloar, Fyfe, SPP, Myers, (Freeman, Graham, Hibberd)
RUCK: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Ryder, Roughy, Pickett, Bolton (Smith & Eddy)

    Fantasy_Wannabe · 19/02/2017 at 22:31

    Do you needs both SPP and Myers? But I guess you are happy with your 6 mids for the whole season, and you have no cash left?

    Backs lack depth.

    Spare a thought on my team below… note my mid changes

Fantasy_Wannabe · 21/02/2017 at 21:55

What's everyone doing for Myers?

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