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PODCAST: SuperCoach 2017 Midfield

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Jock Reynolds Supercoach PodcastThe most formidable & arousing species of them all – the SuperCoach midfield BEAST

Today we pick the 2017 midfield apart with the fervour of a savage SuperCoach point hungry dogs. Simple as that, we hope you absolutely love the show as we crash into the beginning of the JLT series this week!

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Bob

Love it

Clem

Great stuff guys, love your work and thouhts.

Mitch17

Good stuff guys as always

SCaddict

Coach Kings Play at Home during the JLT. What a marvelous Idea Jock and Higgo. Your gifts of generosity to the community know no bound. Should reward those who have been comprehensive with their preseason research unlike myself ha ha.

Can't wait for Thursday night lads!

Jim_bob321

Hey guys, what do u think of my team?

Def – Docherty, Adams, Laird, JJ, Berry, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)
Mid – Dangerfield, Treloar, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Foote, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Pickett, Graham, Freeman)
Rucks – Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Forward – Dahlhause, Caddy, Ryder, Roughead, McCluggage, Bowes (McCarthy, Eddy)

Thanks!

Tyruddanaut

I'm pretty sure berry just got injured so try to trade him out.

Yakka

Love your work guys.
Can't wait for coach Kings.

UncleSwaggy

Are there pictures of higgos jacket, i need to see ut

UncleSwaggy

a mere mortal like myself can not begin to fathom what goes on in the deepest depths of your brain, jock

hedski

"Jizzin all over the sc landscape".
Ha. Go Danger.

Holmes_Heroes

I think I am going to say that a lot this year…

matthewgreen161

Interested in your thoughts on this strategy.

Start with Gawn, Sandi and Witts at R3 with Strndica (sp?) at F8 to ensure loophole option.

When both have maxed out in price, downgrade Witts to rookie forward via dpp and upgrade Sandi to Prem R2 keeper with Strndica sitting at R3 all year for loophole.

Tyruddanaut

There aren't any high scoring forwards so maybe an option like strndica for mid or back would be better. It might be hard to find but one but it will work better if you can

Patch

Entertaining a similar idea myself Matt. Love the agile thinking. I'm not making a defining call on the strategy until we see both Sandilands in a match and know Witts has the #1 ruck role at GC by the scruff of a bloodied neck. If neither of those conditions are met, the plan goes in the bin.

Kev

I had a play around with this idea today. For mine it's still 217k sitting on the pine. Even if Nicholls doesn't get up for round 1 he will feature early. If he was gone for the half of the year it might make me feel better about it. Already taking enough risk with Sandi

Luskin Star

Good idea but my concern is that for less than 70 more you could go with Martin at r2, strndica at r3, eddy at f8. In doing so you save a trade and eliminate the risk of sandi breaking down.

Nathan

I've had this set up for a couple of weeks now
And I also see it as an insurance for sandi
Witts avg 72 for 2 seasons sharing the ruck so I'm pretty confident he will make enough money
Is also let's us see who the best 2 rucks are
My r1 is Gawn and not sure who will be the next best
But the down sides
Will need 2 trades
Sandi risk
High priced bench who has never been sole number 1 ruck
But at this stage this is my ruck setup

Rick

Community what are your thoughts on my team?

DEF: Doch, Adams, Laird, Shaz, Newman, Ryan (Stewart, Long)

MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Cripps, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Bolton, Graham, Ronke)

RUCKS: Gawn, Grundy (Cameron)

FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Ryder, Roughy, McCluggage, Bowes (Smith, Eddy)

$6800 Left

Still not sure on Adams, Ryder and Macrae

Eric_the_Red

A well-balanced team Rick. You should have a decent start to the year in my opinion. I'd love both Dahl and Macrae in my team, but it worries me having 2 top shelf forwards from the same team.

Tyruddanaut

That 6,800 scares me. You won't be able to fix your team if if goes bust so fingers crossed

BlakeyP

Money in the bank is points off the field

Danners

What a ripper boys! Can't wait to get into the play at home Coachkings. You have me tempted to not start Danger, but he did score 140, 229, and 155 against his first 3 opponents. Going in with a robust midfield consisting of

Danger, Pendlebury, Sloane, Fyfe, T.Mitchell, Beams, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Bolton, Graham)

Learnt from my mistakes last year and I feel the first six can average 105+.
Also I have a league going for people ranked within the top 10k last year to try and have a crack at the Round 1 prize. Fling me an email at djk1410 dot dk at gmail dot com for a code.

Krups

Danger, Pendles, Selwood, Hanners, Treloar, Fyfe, Swalow, Powell-pepper is my starting midfield

Holty

Strong mate. Id hate to see your other lines however.

Krups

Def: Shaw Adams Laird
Ruck Gawn and Sandi
Fwd Dalhaus Caddy Ryder

Leeds17

Your 3 Defs have same bye round I think FYI

Krups

Thanks you are correct. I will change that slightly to make it better

Holty

Nice krups. I simply keep forgetting sandi but as you have shown, you can go deep in the mids and still have other decent lines

Derek

If you want Swallow, his spot is M7.

Moustachio

Depends entirely on rookies

StevieD

Love effort guys put in for us the humble community
So I thought I would make a league for the people here
JR's friends and fam
Code:563520
All are welcome
Keep up the good work jock, Higgo and crouching

Eric_the_Red

Mate that midfield will haunt my dreams tonight. I wish you the best of luck with it, but too many risky options and not enough solid options present there for my liking. I'd recommend downgrading 2 of Wingard, Heeney or Caddy to rookies and then upgrading 2 of Jack, O/Meara and Wines.

Rivo

Yet another great podcast gents! I wish I could see Higgos tan leather jacket and those tassels. I'm starting with Danger though. My PODs will be Sloane over Bont and JPK over Treloar. Hoping Swallow can generate enough cash to chase another premo in time for the byes. T-Mitch & Selwood still tempting. Beams scratched for now. Will see if he gets a run in the JLT.

SCaddict

Interesting No Danger Zone segment boys but sorry Higgo not starting with Danger will only result in constructing your own private Temple of Doom!

Betty

Hey jock if I ordered magazine today how long would it take to arrive. I live in melbourne

Betty

thanks jocky

Winter

Thoughts on Sloane, don't think he was talked about in the podcast.
Current mids are Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Sloane, Fyfe, SPP, Myers
Still deciding between Rocky, Selwood and Treloar…. Changes every day

Rivo

I have Sloane also. Very consistent and has plenty of home games to start the season. Of the other 3 to pick from, see what the JLT delivers, I would lean toward Rocky if fit.

Jack

Finished 250th 2015 and top 1500 last year and would like some feedback on my side and some discussions
Here's my side

Docherty, Laird, Adams
Marchbank, Keefe, Ryan
(Hibberd, doodee)

Danger, Pendles, Jpk, Fyfe
Murphy, swallow, McGrath, Mccluggage
(Powellpepper, myers, freeman)

Gawn, Goldstein
Standica

Dahlhaus, McRae, Ryder
McCarthy, bowes, Pickett
(McKay, eddy)

Scared about Sandilands if he lines up round 1 then I'll take the risk but see how he goes

Derek

I think a fit Goldy is the obvious R2. I need to see it first. That's why I'll be going with Sandi, give me some time and cash before getting Goldy, or whoever is R2.

Norf have a great second half of season

Luskin Star

Strong team. Only suggestion would be to move McGrath and McBags out of midfield and into their other position. Whatever they score will be of more value in def and fwds rather than mids.

Jack

They are in there for swing in both lines

BlakeyP

I believe you have gone a bit lite in the mids mate. An upgrade of murphy or swallow would be good. The best way to get the money for this change would be a downgrade or Goldy ( interrupted preseason) and one of the expensive rookies. Other than that team look great.
Just my 2 cents

BlakeyP

Also good work on the rank for the last 2 years, I have start a league and trying to get a high league rank and it would be great if you could come for the ride. League code 185765

Good luck with the year

Cooper

What about Jack Trengrove at 264,100 will he play and be any good just for a point of difference

AMAC

I don't think so Cooper. I don't think he is in Melbourne's best 22.

Benjamin Bretel

Hey fellas just thinking about fyfe.
has played an average of 13.8 games per season in the past 5 years at an average of 110.3 points not playing more then 20 games since 2011. If he does a play a full season he will average around 120 but a full season for fyfe is an 18/19 season. Fyfe will probably go into the season as one of the most selected players. When you compare these numbers to rockcliff he has played an average of 18.8 games per season in the past 5 years at an average of 110.4 . With a nearly identical 5 year average and rockcliff averaging 5 more games per season its intresting that one so many people are going fyfe over rockcliff. for these reasons i will be starting rockcliff over fyfe as a POD.

Derek

Rocky is more likely to get soft tissue injuries, always seems to happen.

Fyfe has missed because of a broken leg and a big dead leg corky from little Sam Mitchell.

Luskin Star

Ive got them both. The very high ceiling with both outweighs the risk in my opinion.

MorrowSC

Surely a horror movie featuring this team isn't far off.. stuff of nightmares.

Cooper

My Midfield at the moment is,

Danger, JPK, Trelaor, Rockliff, Fyfe, Swallow, Powell-Pepper and Myers
(Freeman, Hibberd, Bolton)

Thoughts on getting Pendlebury in for someone I've got 100k to spend

Derek

Rocky will get injured

Hutto76

I reckon the captaincy will make him lift to yet another level. Fingers crossed as a Swans man. I'm seriously considering your man Geary on the same basis!

Cooper

Thanks Jock I'm thinking of keeping rocky and swapping out swallow for another premium like the Bont or Sloane, what are your thoughts on Gazza to start the season or is that another huge risk

AMAC

Great PODcast fellas! Can't wait for Thursday to give Coach Kings a go!

Sam_01

Community I'm faced with the dilemma of
Pendles v JPK
Absolutely love pendles lock him every year being a piesman! But going jpk helps out with a heavy Rd 13 bye as I have treloar, Sloane and Fyfe. This also leaves me with a bit of extra cash
But can you really not start pendles!!

Winter

Can you take both and cut out Treloar

Sam_01

Not an option absolutely set on treloar!

Jakob

You could swap Sloane for a Bont or Priddis if you want Pendles.

Sam_01

Boys boys boys
The others are set it's pendles or Kennedy haha, not ready to spend that much on the Bont just yet he is an absolute star just need to see another year out of him yet!

Jakob

Then the answer is obviously JPK.

Luskin Star

Noah was in short pants the last time pendles didnt finish top 5. No debate in my opinion

Sam_01

Got to much love for each of these blokes done some rearranging and have gone swallow at m7
They are both in lads

Sam_01

Has caused another dilemma thought is it better to go sandi with Ryder or grundy and a fwd rookie, fwd like would look rather slim with Roughead at F3 as all, and surely the point generating capacity of Ryder/sandi is better than grundy and a rookie!!

fatboyfat7

Had a similar-ish problem with the R13 bye in the mids. Result; No Fyfe… I'm aiming to avoid injury prone players as much as possible this year, got hit hard late last year when I was going very well and didn't have the trades to left to handle it. Saying that, still have Rocky and Swallow so go figure! Big 2 lessons learnt last year, avoid injury prone players and keep more trades for end of season!

Derek

Cognitive bias at work. Listen to yourself. Take out all the risk players and have a look at your team, you can always change it back

Sam_01

i may just do that Derek! But taking these risks such as swallow sandi etc allows you to generate premium points and still generate top cash allowing you to charge up the ranks!

Dan

Danger is a set and forget Captain. Having this option is very underrated. Danger a must have.

Moustachio

… Never set and forget your captain in this game my friend! VC every week

hedski

$50k coming ur way Steeeve πŸ˜‰

Derek

Where is Zac Dawson?

BlakeyP

Prop in one of the spots where it says rookies

TRIGGER HAPPY

100% heading down the highway to the Danger Zone.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one Higgo.

Caleb

Would love some thoughts on my team
(Def) Docherty, Adams, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Newman, Stewart)
(Mid) Danger, Pendles, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, Ainsworth, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Pickett, Hibberd)
(Ruck) Gawn, Sandi (Strandica)
(Fwd) Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Roughead, Bowes, Gallucci (Brown, Bolton)

Still tossing up between premium mids such as Gray and Treloar hoping for some help

dashby1

Hey mate I have created an account to comment for the first time ever to tell you Ainsworth is a genuine CLINT of a selection, I don't see him in their round 1 team and as a small forward rookie for that price he would have to dominate JLT to be considered. Eade has already said Bowes is most likely to play, also your plan to throw in gray to your midfield would give you 4 blokes missing in round 9. Apart from that I like it

Caleb

Cheers I'll take that into consideration

dashby1

thanks jock, long time listener, love your work

The BONT

one more midfielder to get $635,000 who do i get

Already have Danger, JPK, Treloar, Sloane, Fyfe, SPP, Myers

Jakob

Selwood

Derek

Selwood or Hanners

Baldge

Good evening community!
Love the podcast lads!
All coaches welcome to join the Victoria cup 207377

gator59

Trying to form a very strong League

Please feel free to particpate

On Route "66 .. Code 909246

Pitch 72

I'm in gator..

gator59

thanks pitch

The Ranger

I'm in gator

gator59

thanks ranger

Nifty

Jumped in Gator..

gator59

thanks nifty

hedski

Reckon I got ur last spot Gator, cheers

gator59

well done Hedski , cheers to all

Bear Grills

Does anyone know how to change your name against your team?

Ie instead of john – team name SC BEAST
It can read bear grills – team name SC BEAST?

Moustachio

Try the office of births deaths and marriages mate (or use a fake name on account creation)

John

Why would I want to change my name to SC BEAST?

Timchief

Hi all, great pod as usual lads. What's the communities view on coniglio? Gws will win plenty of games and points must be given to someone.

Progressive sc average over past few years and averaged approx 28 disposals per game.

Moustachio

Goes big when GWS do, and they will go big a lot this year. So much depth in that midfield though, points will be split.

Kev

Big talent in a loaded midfield, Tim. Check this out
http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2016/12/30/steven-

Timchief

Thanks lads

throttlefinger

As you boys say in the Outback, "A bottler!" Going to try to set the alarm early on Thursday morn so I can get in on some CK action…at least wake around half time so I can do some revving.

My mids so far: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Jelwood, Fyfe, Smurph and 2 rooks. See if that changes any but concrete is starting to dry.

Can..not…wait…until…Thursday!

throttlefinger

At the top holding the door for me to swing in.

Luskin Star

Keep seeing Powell Pepper name come up. Am i the only one concerned about his poor disposal efficency?

Moustachio

Not sure he is as much of a lock as ppl claim. We will see who is who in JLT

Canny the Manny

Joel Selwood will not be selected in my team due to a severe reading on the flog-o-meter.

John

That's good. He's in my team. Whether you think he's a flog or not is entirely your opinion. But he's a lock in my team. His early slow starts are a myth and Geelong have a soft draw early. Don't know if you can call one of the best players in the competition a flog but thats just my opinion.

Derek

he is still in the top 8 midfielders. this could be his last year of uber output. he will be in my starting team

Nathan

Currently running with
Hanners Selwood treloar Cripps Fyfe t Mitchell swallow and Myers
Treloar Cripps and Fyfe are my solid locks
Even with Cripps interrupted pre season I think he will come into the year ready to push for top10 mid

John

Get Danger in there. Just do it.

johnno2908

Current team, tried to get 6 mids who can pump out the 130+ scores and even spread over the byes.

Any feedback appreciated. The Hunted v1:
DEF: Doch, Adams, Laird, VickersWillis, Newman, Ryan (Ridley, Stewart)
MIDS: Danger, Hannebery, Selwood, Rockliff, Fyfe, Titchell, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Bolton, Jarman)
RUCK: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica.)
FWD: Dahl, Caddy, Heeney, Ryder, Bowes, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

Gaveday

My team reveal is due today, but I'm pretty set on my team. I mean I made a lazy 4 changes already…….
Treloar Rocky Fyfe Cripps Dalh Heppell JOM swallow

Derek

Why is Dalh in your mids?

Budgie63

Love the podcast as always, but it did get me thinking. Two oft used words that jumped from the podcast were STRUCTURE and RISK.

Structure; Most coaches seem driven by a predetermined structure and Higgo advises not to change your structure based on JLT. But given the uncertainty over many rookies; ie their roles, will they even play, we may find that we can't adhere to that predetermined structure. For mine all you can do at this point is assemble a short list of guns and midpricers you'd feel comfortable selecting. Once you've got more visibility on the rookie scene then you can begin to assemble a team. Rookies drive structure.

Risk; Much is made about avoiding the midprice madness risk and limiting your team to a minimum number of mid pricers, returning injured players or former premos. In line with my previous paragraph, what must also be considered is the risk taken onboard with rookies. If on the Thursday night before Rd 1 you have a team of rookie holes due to non-selection then unless you're confident of them playing very soon the risk of your season unravelling due to lack of cash generation must be considered high. The point here is that those with say a DEF 4-0-4 structure may suddenly find a weekly scramble to get 6 on the ground.

For mine, risk is minimised by selecting only the rookies who will play and have at least some sort of job security. Following that structure evolves and risk is mitigated with a suitable premo/mid balance.

Derek

over this pre season i ve had nearly every structure possible. I've kept some of the good ones, so depending on the rookies i have a plan.

i have a bunch of rules i have used and tweaked over the past few seasons, the first one is: Start with the right rookies.

neil Demons delight

Rookies are the easy bit Derek The last few years they sort themselves out even the 2nd batch are easy.What it depends on is research. I find my biggest worry is getting premos right and I fail miserably.God Rocky both twice even now danger and pendles locked then what I LIKE JPK JELWOOD HANNAS. and will probably get it wrong.given Fyfe M5 which two .I spend 8 HRS on this game daily mainly cause I love it and this community but its frustrating even Ryder F3 or Roughy. thinks I will chance Sandys health with a good warchest and go with the rough. cheers

Derek

I love your passion

Have another read of higgos article in last years winner. It will give you comfort that only 7 of his starting keepers finish the year

Early corrective trades, especially the premiums. Have a good war chest

Aim for high ceiling players to finish the season

Tuk Touk

Whos are the top 3 mids at GWS

Touk tuk

Who*

Yerp

Coniglio, Shiel, Ward – followed by Scully, Griffen, Kelly, Whitfield,

Tommy

Great podcast lads. I'm tossing up over fyfe and treloar, can anyone help me here?

Holty

As people say on here, risk vs reward. Rockliffs ceiling is much higher but is a huge injury concern. Treloar will more than likely be a select and forget as he is very durable

Holty

Sorry Tommy, i have know idea why i mentioned Rocky. But you would still get the same response with Fyfe

Derek

i have both, but Fyfe was my first picked player

Rivo

Ok guys. Midfield selection dilemma…

Mids currently:
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Sloane, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Graham, Bolton).

JPK & Sloane at M3 & M4 or Alblett & Parker? Others?

Kev

JPK/Sloane. Both Gaz and Parker have had injury interrupted preseasons

Rivo

Thanks Kev. My brain is spinning over the options. Reckon JPK and Sloane are safe bets for 105+. Interested to know who your rollback mids might be if Sandi is a no show for season start?

Kev

My mids will stay the same, Rivo. Caddy and Roughy will be in the gun. Not sold in either one yet

Holty

Hi community.
League number 798041. All welcome

Derek

Bunnies are in

The Ranger

I'm in Holty, thanks.

gator59

I've jumped in Holty

Alf Busters

Alf Busters is in

Hart_attack

Hart_attack is in for the win

Holty

Cheers lads. Looking forward to the season

BlakeyP

league full pal. But please feel free to join on code 185765

hedski

I'm in if OK? Cheers

The Master

Thanks Blakey, Im in, best of luck.

YeahTheBoys

Just a quick question for the community, is starting with all 3 of T.Adams Pendles and Treloar too much?

Kev

Nah I don't think so. They averaged 97, 118, 111 respectively last year.

Derek

I think i'll start with sandi and no cover. Just don't think Ryder will be top 6 forward this year. I'll keep $175k in the bank so i can either jump on the Witts bandwagon or straight swap R2 (depends on any price changes, but i will have enough to get Steph as a good option)

team as is (before JLT) V3.1

Simpson, Adams, Laird, Hibberd (norf), Vickers-W, Ryan, (Stewart, Ridley)

Dangerfield, Hannebury, Treloar, Priddis, Sloane, Fyfe, SPP, Myers (Bolton, Ronke, Cousins)

Gawn, Sandi (Strd)

Dalhaus, McCrea, Cyril, McCluggage, Knight, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

$175k bank

Simpson seems like a POD, everyone has Docherty and i'm not sure about his role this year. Simpson is locked in.
Adams has too much upside. A genuine midfielder with Def status at a good price
Laird is in my best 22 and is the cheapest. Might even get some midfield time.

Hanners has more upside than JPK and will benefit more from TMitch leaving than JPK. JPK will be upgrade target.
Treloar is locked into the midfield, he won't play anywhere else, where Pendles might. pendles will be an upgrade once i'm happy with his role.
Priddis will go crazy with SMitch in the team this year, WCE have good draw
Sloane just makes my best 22, but his run of home games makes his selection easy
Fyfe was the first picked. Even if he cost $675k.

Cyril is my big POD. i've talked about him before locked.
McCluggage is a dead set gun and will play round 1
Knight is cheap and if he gets some time on the wing or midfield will be a good cash cow. (watch Turner as well)
the rest are rookies.

rookies will determine everything. At the moment i've only got 3 rookies that i'm certain will play round 1.

Holty

Nice team derek. And im saying that with the fact it looks nothing like mine. I like your pods in the midfield (all proven so no risks). Still find it to risky with Sandi but if he can get to those bye rounds without injury, you will be laughing. Priddis is in a nd out of my side as sharing the rd12 bye with danger and selwood. It is between selwood and priddis for that spot. Agree with knights although just cant fit him in my team at present. Good luck bud

Derek

Thanks Holty

I joined your league, saw a few other good players in there, will be a top league.

Still have a few places if anyone what's to take us on.

The Ranger

That ruck position is the biggest dilemma for me Derek.
I've not looked at his numbers but from memory Martin didn't go so well when Archie Smith played with him last year (albeit he might have been coming back from that May hit too) so I'm staying away from him until we know if he's playing lone wolf or not.
I've decided to wait and see how many mid rookies appear. If there's three decent onfield options then I'll go with five keeper mids and Grundy, if there's not then I'll maybe run six keepers in the mids and drop Grundy down to Sandi.

I'm also a little concerned with trying to predict six keepers in the mids this year.
With Fyfe and Ablett back and Rocky injury free it's harder than ever to predict the top eight mids this year.

Derek

It is hard to pick the top midfield this year, especially from number 5 to 15, all good players. And at the end their averages are not going to be massively different, so what if Priddis averages 108 and Rocky averages 110, only 40 pts over the season. It is the reliability that I'm valuing higher this year.

I was burnt bad with injury last year, especially with premiums. this year, premium or not, injury early season they will be gone.

Im not a Martin fan, I think it will be Goldy or Grundy, I was just holding enough cash at start to get a Martin if I had to, hopefully not

The Ranger

At one point I had Danger, Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe and Rocky in my team.
I'd love to have the balls to start with them all but…

neil Demons delight

Mind reader Derek refer to your last entry..Priddis is interesting slow starter what happened to JELWOOD great opening rounds and at the cattery agree with MCCLUGGAGE THOUGH last effort was poor and Turner good .

Derek

if I downgrade Simmo to Mills I can squeeze Jelwood in. Is M7 too deep πŸ˜‰

team as is (before JLT) V3.2

Adams, Laird, Mills, Hibberd (norf), Vickers-W, Ryan, (Stewart, Ridley)

Dangerfield, Hannebury, Treloar, Priddis, Sloane, Fyfe, Selwood, SPP, (Myers, Ronke, Cousins)

Gawn, Sandi (Strd)

Dalhaus, McCrea, Cyril, Bolton, McKay, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

$600 in bank.

Keenbutclueless

Love it. Really ballsy and the best use of Sandi. Great job Derek

Keenbutclueless

More I think about this, the more I like it.
Let's say you need to give up the Sandi experiment in Round 3. You can give up any premo in the mids you like and bring in any premo ruck. You would still be able to go Murphy, Beams or Swallow if they are firing.
Even if the Sandi experiment works, but you find a fall away in your rookies in Defence or Forwards, can also do a corrective at round 3 without weakening your mids (still at M6).
So, to me, this structure gives the maximum reward for the risk of Sandi, and gives you the maximum flexibility to fix any early problems with structure. Obviously depends on rookies, but I really like this.

neil Demons delight

Bad risk to take Jelwood at M7. D3 and F3 is a risk too great Derek imo particularly D3 where Adams and Mills are not uber premiums .Hit the reverse button as quick as possible mate.Mills a good D4 with Myers on field Selwood to best rookie cheers

Keenbutclueless

Hi Neil. Have read a lot of your posts and I tend to agree with most things you say. I don't want to come across as argumentative, but I would like to make a few points.
Mills as D3 versus Mills as D4. We should only select people at D3 or D4 if we genuinely believe they will be top 8 by year end. If we really believe that, then it shouldn't matter if we pick them at D3 or D4. The logical conclusion from what you say is that D4 is speculative or hedging your bets, so doesn't really matter if it comes off. Derek has posted many times that he thinks Mills is an absolute gun and has no doubt that he will be top 8 by Seasons end. The courage of that conviction should mean that it won't matter if it is D3.
I think the greatest advantage of this structure is the flexibility to pull a corrective trade if it's not working. If you lock yourself into a D4 and F4 structure, it's much harder to fix. You have to find a like for like. You will also notice that he had enough DPP rookies to easily adjust if he needs to.
It's a radical structure. It's way out there. It looks different to anything else we have seen. But it does have something. I just reckon that it's really worth giving deeper consideration before hitting the reset button.

neil Demons delight

Hi Keen wont use your last bit because you are far from that and that's the beauty of this forum Keen Was just about to write how bad my judgement was when you next comment came up. You are so correct AND I hope Derek kept it, Your explanation has altered my views its actually a great move.Personally not going with Mills but Tmac but using DEREKS idea THANKS keencluey neil

Derek

Mills will be a gun and close to top 6 defenders by year end. Until you see him up close, you don't realise how tall he is. I've seen him a lot at the Swans academy, my son is there as well, and he played 100% midfield and was so far better than anyone else it wasn't funny.

It was a pity he did so well in defence last year.

neil Demons delight

IS ..the lad a fullforward like his old man Derek.its a wonder he is not into league. Great game mate and even though a vic been a paid up member of the mighty Eels for years.Might go well this year looking forward to our knew stadium apparently a ripper. Sorry this is an afl forum cheers might kick 9 goals 1

Derek

Mills was a gun rugby player, can tackle.

Jump on the sharks bandwagon neil

neil Demons delight

like it DEREK but McCluggage and Knight for Bolton and McKay to raise funds needs tweeking as I pointed out to Cluey trying it i.e. going M 7 But like yourself Derek came up 100000 short .Solution is either weaker mid prem or like yourself cull high price rooks .To me Bolton McKAY Pickett Smith and Eddy wont cut it. I am going to keep trying but not at that expense.Sorry mate

Keenbutclueless

Yeah. Feel like I have the same problem. Tried

Def. Adams Laird Mills Newman Hibberd Ryan (Stewart Long)
Mid. Danger JPK Selwood Treloar Sloane Fyfe Titchell Myers (SPP, Williams, Ronke)
Ruck. Gawn Sandi (Stnnnndk)
Fwd. Dahl Macrae Caddy Pickett Bolton Cameron (Eddy Smith)
I have 47k left. Gives me a bit to upgrade these rookies, but not enough at this point to feel comfortable. It's close, but I agree with you Neil, not quite there.
Hate to say it, but if Danger or Gawn go down before the season starts, this comes right back into play. But I am not going in without them unless they are injured.

neil Demons delight

got there but ..Pendles to hanna tick turner to Williams same team good kid even tmac to you guessed it Mills that's 30 plus 50 plus 70 enough to get my M7 BONT NOW MIDS LOOK LIKE ..Danger JPK Hanna Selwood Fyfe Kelly and Bont Kelly ave 90 2016 and imo D6 gives me flexibility in defence Got to look at it closely Unlike Derek forwards haven't suffered too much WILLIAMS for Turner thanks again both Derek and Keen and cluefull early days but likeing it cheers Neil DEMON DELIGHTS

neil Demons delight

That's a great squad k.Defense solid good rooks ..MIDS as per Dereks Dream goes M7 good rooks Rucks fit D-D requirements FORWARDS 2 dogs Caddy dpp ah see your point Eddy/ Smith ok but ..pickett/Bolton/Cameron the weak link ..but you still have 47 k Cameron could be ok PICKETT could easily be upgraded leaving you only Bolton and who knows too early my 3 are Bowes Gallucci and WELL AH Poholke same risk just a tad better than Dereks but that's speculative still its a great move but like you would feel more comfortable with a decent bank Work in progress …cheers

Leeds17

Geeez it's hard to see MIlls improving that much in his 2nd season I know he'll get more mid-time but don't forget he'll lose his intercept points when that happens, he's only knocked out 2 tons at 102 and 104, his consistency is super impressive for a 19yrs though..

Shake n bake

Haha those 2 blue boys down back frustrated you last year l think Derek good to see you start with at least one of them! My only difference l went Doch. With most teams ive seen on this site not to many like myself & you Derek share the same view on Hanners im starting with him aswell. Good team all the best mate.

Bamsko

My concern with Cyril is that he hasn't played a full season since 2008

SCaddict

Not sure we'll be able to talk Derek out of Cyril.

I can hear the hammy ping already followed by a tormented "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" posted on this site in fairly quick succession.

But I doubt anything can top his Lobbe disaster of 2016 though, despite numerous community warnings in the preseason. πŸ™‚

Derek

That seems to be a common thing. I'd like to know how many of the best 22 have played a full season in the last 3 years. I will research tonight.

Krups

Maybe Gunston over Cyril?
Love the Priddas pick

JerseyforHawks

Simply spectacular input, but perhaps a new low in podcast imagery. Giving new meaning to "Danger: slippery when wet'.

DonTheSash

Agree with Jock here, you can look at all the statistics you want but if you don't have a bloke who's churning out consistent 140+ scores, you'll fall behind the pace (especially in leagues). A viable captain option every week is priceless IMO.Never been out of my team.

Also community, my midfield is currently : Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Z Merrett, Fyfe and T Mitchell. Thoughts on Merrett?

Cheers.

Kev

The big unknown for me is how Zerrett goes with everyone back. Only Stanton missing tomorrow night for Essendon's midfield so should get a good indicator of how he will go.

Make a call on him after JLT2 and 3