SuperCoach 2017 Tam Reveal

It is NIGH. SuperCoach will open tomorrow.

While we’ve been in preseason mode since November, the preseason begins for a stack of 2017 SuperCoach contenders as soon as those sacred electronic doors open on Tuesday

To those of you beginning your 2017 journey – welcome to season 2017! You’re amongst mates, and we’re gagging to draw you into the warm, safe genius of our communities sizeable bosom.

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Time to reveal our current squads below.. extremely aroused!


626 Comments

TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 12:39

YOU FIRST JOCK 🙂

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 13:04

    Haha yes, I'll get it in here tonight old mate.

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 22:50

    Here she is mate:

    DEF: Montagna, Adams, Laird, Hurley, Scharenberg, Ryan (Stewart, NOMCOCK)
    MID: Pendles, Fyfe, Tom Mitchell, Brad Crouch, Marc Murphy, Heppell, SPP, Myers (Graham, Bolton, Gore)
    RUCK: Gawn, Giles (Sterndick)
    FWD: Roo, Dahl, Caddy, Ryder, Hoskin-Elliott, Pickett (Eddy, Smith)

      Moustachio · 23/01/2017 at 22:58

      No Danger! Brad Crouch! Giles! Mid pricers! Balls to the wall mate.

        jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 23:11

        I'm set on no Danger for starters. Will end up chopping one of Crouch, Murphy & Heppell but shit I love each of them as options this season.

      wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 23:13

      Geez Jock all those gun defenders available and you go with a bloke who hasn't played for a year and in his 7-years of footy has never played a full season or ave more than 95. He only aves 4-tons p/year and pumps out at least three sub-70's every year plus no recovery juice anymore. I'd be cashing him in for a proper D4 and using the surplus to fix up that forward line 🙂
      I love ya mate but you appear to making the same mistakes you made last year. Have you had the alzheimers test?

        jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 23:17

        I might have Alzheimer's Wombo – but at least I don't have Alzheimer's

          wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 23:25

          It's not a bad thing as long as you continue to remember when its your shout. Grandad used to say it was great early on because granny was a stranger every night but when he thought that he supported the pies we had him put down

            TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 23:26

            Only humane thing to do.

              jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 23:38

              Agree. A no doubt difficult but noble act of mercy,

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 23:16

      Wow Jock. That is a pod team if ever I've seen one.
      No plain vanilla there.
      Hurley i read today has a leg complaint so maybe just monitor his progress/pre season
      Titch, crouch, murph and heppell – huge pod action right there. No one would have those 4.
      Admire the testicular robustness of those picks – value and could turn out to be genius. Murph over beams . Massive plums love it.
      Gawn? I'm sure someone said in the last pod cast they wouldn't touch gawn as he was too big for his boots? What changed your mind? Thought stiffy was the rage?
      Giles convinced by higgo?
      Expected to see Roo and joey as i know you are big on those top two saints
      Anyways for what its worth that's my two cents very podish, as i said could be pure genius, you are the father.

      SPP. I reckon has gotta play early impressing the parts off all and sundry so far and they r trying to hold him back, has the attitude try and keep me out. I heard he went one on one with thunder thighs the other day and more than held his own.

      oh and no danger! That is probably the balliest move of the lot. But caution i refer you to a community article on the topgun "can you really afford not to start him". Definite maverick Jock, always will be. Case and point just look at that team!

        jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 23:35

        Thanks Triggo – Gawn gets in by the skin of his nose, would need his captaincy without Danger and a closer look at the Third Man Up effect makes him bloody hard to overlook. Needs to pull his head in quick sticks. Didn't know Hurley had stuffed his leg, was solid in intraclub – I'll give him a call. Gilesy – Higgo, value & my belief Sandiballs will snap in half early.

        Big arse avacodo for left field thinking at this point in the preseason

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 23:42

          Sorry my bad was the other "H" bombers
          Hooker and Hartley.

            TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/02/2017 at 23:30

            Now its hurley, must have esp or something

      Kev · 24/01/2017 at 09:56

      TMitch, Crouch, MM, Heppell. Any of those likely top 10 mids end of the year? Love that you're taking a punt mate but that's throwing them all at the wall and hoping they stick.

      Giles… Well. You must know something we don't, Jock. 12 tons in 57 games

      Jambo · 24/01/2017 at 12:53

      Very unique team, Jock. I love the selections of Montagna and Hurley. I don't know about Roo, I think he will hit the post-byes with a wet sail. Love the selections of Crouch and Heppell. Not so sure about Giles. Is he R1? With NicNat out, yes, but does he bring a strong hit-out to advantage to the team? Taylor Adams is a very tempting pick but his injury history is too risky for mine. I prefer Bernie Vince at a lower price.

      I can't tell you what processes to go through but this is a good team that can use some improvement. I could be wrong, and I hope I am.

      Danners · 24/01/2017 at 19:26

      Robust. Hearing though Lycett might be alright for Round 1. Hope to see the JR Brumby get up in the ranks again

      The Honey Badger · 25/01/2017 at 13:52

      What is NOMCOCK?

      Krups · 25/01/2017 at 14:14

      No Sloane there jock?

Nanganator · 23/01/2017 at 13:00

B: Montagna, T.Adams, Laird, K.Kolodjashnij, Keefe, Ryan (Vickers-Willis, Stewart)
M: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Pickett, Graham, Bolton)
R: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, Roughead, Black, Pickett (Long, Eddy)

$11.3k remaining

    Nathan · 23/01/2017 at 13:10

    I like this team
    I'd have a few different like Montagna and Ablett
    But them at personal preference
    But same set up as I'm going for

    Derek · 23/01/2017 at 14:25

    i saw Ablett running around with a bright orange cap last week.

    apparently a Bright orange Cap means = don't tackle – shoulders are stuffed.

    And the Suns then said how great he played in the simulated game…. i reckon i could even get a few kicks if i got to wear the Bright Orange Cap.

    Worrying signs for the little master.

      I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 15:03

      Your on the money Derek. Gary is wearing Orange head gear to indicate no contact at all. Removed him straight from my team after seeing that. I am a firm believer that the no 3rd man up rule should be replaced with the "don't touch Gary" rule

        Kev · 23/01/2017 at 15:11

        Same here, Pie. Straight on the scrap heap with Gary as soon as I read that. CD to slightly tweak their formula to include -10 to any body contact Gaz receives

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 15:40

        Was never in
        Durable guys only this year

    Wighty · 24/01/2017 at 12:10

    Just a few two many injury regulars for my liking….GAJ, Rockliff (will be at some stage), Fyfe, Beams, Sandi, then you have the unknowns….Myers, Ryder, Roughie.

    Luskin Star · 25/01/2017 at 00:47

    Thumper will burn you.

Raging Bulls · 23/01/2017 at 13:03

Just wanted to say what a pleasure it has been reading the articles on this great website over the course of this preseason. Thank you Jock and everyone else that has contributed! Good luck for SC 2017 you legends!

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 13:05

    Thank you Raging it's an incredible pleasure to break SuperCoach bread with a bunch of such incredible individuals.

    Raging Bulls · 23/01/2017 at 13:21

    Oh and what do people think about Tom Cutler? He has potential to be a good rebounding defender.

      LEKD0G · 23/01/2017 at 13:29

      Killed me last year (had him as my breakout in defence, on my burn list now haha

        Raging Bulls · 23/01/2017 at 13:34

        Only thing different this year except natural progression is a new coach. Just look at how the Carlton rebounding defenders player last year under Bolton. Fagan comes from the same Hawthorn system, and I think he will create a good defensive structure.

          LEKD0G · 23/01/2017 at 13:36

          will watch closely, feel like he has to beat out Bob Murphy (who is cheaper) to get into my side though

The Coach · 23/01/2017 at 13:14

Backs: Doc, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (NOMCOC, Ryan)
Mids: Danger, Dependlebury, Hannebery, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, SPP, Myers (SPS, Scheer, Graham)
Rucks: Gawn, Goldy (Strndica)
Forwards: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, McCarthy, McCluggage, Pickett (Other NOMCOC, Eddy)

New to the community – read your stuff last year. This year has been massive already, can't wait to see if one of the community can take it out because the articles have been beautiful.

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 13:18

    Coacho – it's wonderful to have you onboard mate! You're a good egg. Solid start there mate – good to see a Pieman NOMCOC tag team happening there. Having both McCluggage & McGrath does worry me a touch, I'm a huge avocado for only including the high priced rooks if you reckon they'll average 80+ off the bat.

      I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 14:02

      Very proud of my NOMCOC's! Solid team The Coach

        The Honey Badger · 25/01/2017 at 14:12

        What is NOMCOCK?

      Derek · 23/01/2017 at 14:21

      The article in the magazine on the high priced rookies will be the first one i read.

      I don't see them as being in competition with other cheap rookies for their place in my starting team, but against the cheaper Mid-Price players such as Swallow, Boyd etc. even up to mid-prices under $400k who won't be keepers. The high priced rookies who play Round 1 and can score 75+ are much better value than the more expensive mid-prices who will be flat out doing any better and they are less risky than playing a cheap rookie.

      the cheap rookies are for the bench only. last year because of early injuries i need to have a few of these cheap rookies play (Menapoo etc) stuffed my season.

      can't wait for the magazine

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 16:07

    SPS – Sam Petrevski Sexton
    NOMCOC v1 – Ben Long
    NOMCOC v2 – Willie Rioli

Fatboyfat7 · 23/01/2017 at 13:25

Def: Laird, Burgoyne, McDonald, Hurley, Scharnberg, Ryan (Stewart, VW)

Mid: Danger, JPK, Treloar, Rockliff, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers, (Graham, J Williams, Galluci)

Ruck: Gawn, Sandi (strnadica)

Fwd: Dahl, Caddy, Heeney, Ryder, Black, Eddy ( Smith, Rioli)

Rookies subject to change, feel I'm lacking POD.

    Derek · 23/01/2017 at 14:28

    you have many POD's. Burgoyne, McDonald, Hurley, Treloar, rocky and Caddy, all low ownership. maybe too many POD's.

      I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 15:07

      Don't worry about POD's to start your season. Pick the team that you think will serve you best from a scoring perspective. POD trade in options will present themselves during the season.

    Matthew English · 23/01/2017 at 17:15

    Burgoyne is a terrible choice. I picked him last year and I regret it so much. I only see his scoring decline this year.

      fatboyfat7 · 23/01/2017 at 17:47

      Post-bye last year he scored incredibly well Matthew. Also, if you look at the centre bounces attended at Hawthorn he ranked 3rd behind Lewis and Mitchell. I'm hoping he gets some more mid time in their absense and with JOM looking like Rd5 at earliest. he's also pretty durable. In saying that, nothing's locked in but as it stands he's firm
      In my team.

        Matthew English · 23/01/2017 at 18:48

        Yes that is very true without Lewis and Mitchell, he will most definitely get some more mid time

Morrow · 23/01/2017 at 13:32

Def: Adams, Tuohy, Murphy, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)

Mid: Danger, Pendles, Dusty, Cripps, Fyfe, Beams, Ainsworth, Myers (Brodie, Powell-Pepper, Graham)

Ruck: Gawn, Sandi (Strnicda).

Forward: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Roughy, Boyd, Pickett (Black, Eddy).

Rookies subject to change,.. any tips/thoughts on the premo's?

    Derek · 23/01/2017 at 14:32

    i can see 10 premos (that includes Heeney). Might be a couple short in your starting team. Do you have any cash left over?

LEKD0G · 23/01/2017 at 13:34

Def: K. Simpson, R. Laird, T. McDonald, R. Murphy, C. Hampton, F. McInnes (L. Ryan, T. Stewart)

Mid: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett (although I like Treloar here), J. Kennedy, R. Gray, D.Beams, S. Powell-Pepper, D. Myers
(D. Gore, N. Freeman, J. Graham)

Ruck: S. Martin, A. Sandilands (L. Strnadica)

Fwd: L. Dahlhaus, J. Caddy, T. Miller, J. Roughead, A. Black, J. Pickett (H. McKay, B. Long)

This will obviously change a lot pending preseason and the Jock Magazine but i think we can go nuts with our forwards and rucks this year in terms of taking risks.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 13:48

    Lek
    Same rucks
    Hampton interesting -is he in best 22?

      LEKD0G · 23/01/2017 at 14:13

      That is something I will ask Barron now

    I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 14:04

    Touk Miller. Your showing some faith there Lek. But you did nail Docherty, I'll pay that

      jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 14:13

      Touk getting some time in the guts is absolutely EVERYTHING for his SC relevance.. a few in line this year.

      LEKD0G · 23/01/2017 at 14:14

      He's far less likely to make my final side than Docherty was but I really like what I see, Barlow is the reason he probably doesn't make the cut

        Luskin Star · 25/01/2017 at 00:55

        Reckon touk pushes Barlow out of mid rather than other way round.

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 14:14

    Very bloody solid there lek with just a dusting of POD. Hampton – I'll need to hear more here you magnificent young beast!

    big dog · 23/01/2017 at 14:32

    No Fyfe?

      LEKD0G · 23/01/2017 at 14:34

      #FyfeIsLife …if he is fit and I see him play in the preseason

    Carlos · 23/01/2017 at 15:21

    Loving your thinking on the McDonald selection Lek, not sure if I've got the balls to pick him though! Key position worries me.

    tbag86 · 25/01/2017 at 08:14

    Interested to see the ruck setup Lek.. I'm toying with Sandiballs as a ruck option as well, but reckon if you go that way, you probably need a DPP ruck coverage option in the fwd line for when he breaks down (e.g. Ryder).

Webspyda · 23/01/2017 at 13:35

T. Adams, M. Hurley, C. Hooker, M. Hibberd, A. McGrath, L. Ryan, (J Berry, T Stewart)

P Dangerfield, J Kennedy, M Bontempelli, N Fyfe, D Heppell, D Beams, D Swallow, D Myers. (Powell-Pepper, Gore, Pickett)

Gawn, Sandilands, ( D Cameron)

T Lynch, P Ryder, J Roughead, W Hoskin-Elliott, C Mcarthy, B Ainsworth, (McCluggage, A Black)

    Webspyda · 23/01/2017 at 13:59

    20k left over

    fatboyfat7 · 23/01/2017 at 16:23

    Lots of mid price players in there, maybe take a quick gander at Patch's article…

      Webspyda · 23/01/2017 at 17:16

      Yeah I read it. Its about picking the correct mid pricers. Hooker and Hibberd will be closely monitored pre season.
      At this early stage I see this team has good balance and scoring potential. Obviously if there is a glut of must have rookies then is a simple matter to select another premium or two.

      Webspyda · 23/01/2017 at 17:41

      I see no point in having non playing cheap rookies sitting on the bench

        fatboyfat7 · 23/01/2017 at 22:54

        Nor does anyone, apart from the one to be used for the loop hole… Still doesn't mean you go out and buy the expensive ones!

        Also, just saw this, early days but something to keep an eye on…
        http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-23/tall-dons-b

          Webspyda · 24/01/2017 at 00:40

          yeah read about Hookers hammy this evening so he will be out maybe Loyd from the Swans to come in.
          Early days.
          I see expensive rookies as more likely to play games and appreciate in value hence the selection
          If a team can be formulated ( sorry Jock, Higgo will explain the big word ) and have salary cap room for expensive rookies
          then in the last frantic hours before round one will be less stressful.
          Selecting lots of cheap non playing rookies will lead to poor last minute decisions IMOO

          Webspyda · 24/01/2017 at 00:52

          You said " Still doesn't mean you go out and buy the expensive ones!"…………..
          Well thats not logical M8. Yes it does mean you don't want cheap non playing rookies on your bench
          So You DO Find and pay for the ones that will play and appreciate so that you can build a competitive side!
          If your initial team ( No Jock! you DO NOT HAVE TO SIGN THE TEAM)) makes room for higher priced rookies it will be an easy last hours adjustment prior to kick off.
          Obviously its early days but methinks its easier to add a cheap rookie and upgrade a mid price under pressure
          than be faced with a last minute non playing bench and trying to find the right mid pricers.
          Bring It !

            Nick · 27/01/2017 at 18:21

            As a dons supporter I'm locking in Hurley, but Hooker is even if you remove the hamstring as a factor a very hard player to select. He will most likely start the year as a key position forward which concerns me supercosch wise

Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 13:42

Although there are a couple of fallen premos in the mix I've tried to strictly adhere to a guns and rookies structure this year. I have never really picked a uber successful breakout mid priced player and given Patch's article a few days ago I don't think I'll bother trying again this year. This whole structure may change if the overall crop of 2017 rookies are poor as they were at the beginning of 2016. Looking forward to some pre-season games to get an idea of what we're working with.

B: Docherty, Heater, McGrath, Scharenberg, Newman, Ryan, (Stewart, Long)
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Jelwood, Bont, Fyfe, Viney, Meyers (Luggage, SPP, Graham)
R: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
F: Dahl, Bennell, Boyd, Black, Pickett, W.Rioli (Smith, Eddy)

$281k leftover

    Kev · 23/01/2017 at 15:23

    McGrath is too high at D3, Jib. Black won't be a high scorer

      Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 15:53

      True Ken it does look a bit skinny down there, thing is I don't want mid priced defender at d3 either (or at all for that matter) as I'm trying to be real strict with a GNR structure. I think I'm just short on cash to upgrade him to JJ. I'll need to squeeze a few more $$$ our of somewhere. Plenty of water to go under the bridge yet.

        Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 15:53

        *Kev

        wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 16:43

        If you swap the suitcase for a cheaper rookie you can get JJ or others. imo 200k is too much for a planned bench warmer

          Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 17:36

          Will do the moment another viable mid/fwd rookie presents in the preseason. Just keeping him there for structure at this stage (unless he really blows up in the pre-season, which I think is unlikely).

        Derek · 23/01/2017 at 16:59

        you could change Viney for a cheap rookie and have McCluggage onfield and swap newman to Adams in defence

          Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 17:39

          Doubt I'll even go with McBags by rd 1, just in there for structure.

          Was tempted to downgrade Viney to Heppell or even Watson (but I don't want to break my mid-price rule), then upgrade McGrath to JJ or Adams.

          All so speculative at this stage but I definitely won't be going with McGrath at D3 come round 1.

            Damien · 23/01/2017 at 19:43

            I wouldn't consider Watson a mid pricer. He'd be in the mid 500k price range if he hadn't been discounted for his year off, and by all reports he's been ripping up the pre-season match simulations. Hasn't skipped a beat.

              Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 21:38

              Yeah but he won't be a top 10 mid so really what's the point?

              I think it's better restructure the mids down to 6 premos and 2 rookies and use the spend the extra cash in defence.

                Kimmyd · 23/01/2017 at 23:00

                Heppell will be or very close to it, very durable also I can see him playing all 22 this year, Watson I don't think will, too old.

                  Kimmyd · 23/01/2017 at 23:03

                  I would not go Boyd in fed line either far too risky. He is a mid priced, can't see him av more than 80-85 total waste of coin, not a good stepping stone player, better off with roughy or Bennell, I would roughy though with Bennells injury history personally. Roughy is a mid pricer but more likely to be a keeper, should av 90-100 this season easily

                    Jib Jib · 24/01/2017 at 11:31

                    I'd be really happy with 22 games at 80-85 from Boyd to be honest. Long term plan is to have him at F6, and with Sandi at R2 I need a fwd/ruck swing. Can't trust the big man's toe.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 14:00

Mainly GNR with the exception of value picks sandi and roughie. Gone strong through the guts.

Simmo, shaw, laird, mcGrath, scharenberg, berry (ryan, Stewart)
Danger, pendles, jelwood, treloar, JPK, fyfe, SPP, myers ( Hibberd, Graham, brown)
Martin, Sandi. (Strndacia)
Dahl, heeney, ryder, roughie, mcbags (this can be anyone from Hoskins Elliott down -might be bowes), balic. (eddy, smith)

As usual will/may change after JLT but haven't changed it for over a week so pretty happy to roll with this or something similar Rd 1.

    Derek · 23/01/2017 at 14:58

    I like Docherty ahead of Simmo. Tooth length on Simmo just too long.

      Carlos · 23/01/2017 at 15:20

      I agree with Derek

        Kev · 23/01/2017 at 17:19

        Tooth length argument was proven to be rubbish last year.

          Derek · 23/01/2017 at 23:24

          It happens to the best of them

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 15:45

      I had doc but then read leks fantastic write up on simmo.
      Only missed 5 games since 2006! Now that is durable.
      If doc is flying leading into Rd 1 can easy go McBags to bowes and simmo to doc.
      But simmo always delivers and has not shows any signs of slowing down and will surely take up where he left off.

        wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 16:47

        Simmo is like Bruce Doull except shorter and with hair. He will be a top 10 defender until his last game in 2054

      Holty · 23/01/2017 at 16:10

      This is probably the one and only time I wont agree with your words of wisdom Derek. True the tooth length to some extent but this should only factor if they have had a injury affected past imo. Simmo's last 11 seasons, he has missed 5 games. 9 (including last season) he has not missed a game.
      Age shall not weary Simmo. I think they are both solid selections and will probably be in everyones side by seasons end.
      I'm going Simmo to start with though purely based on he is a proven premium.

        Derek · 23/01/2017 at 17:02

        I think both will do good this year but i'd prefer not to start the season with who carlton defenders. So to choose one over the other, i thought about tooth length and in particular my belief that Simmos best days are behind him but Docherty's best days are still to come. On that basis i've gone Docherty.

    Moustachio · 23/01/2017 at 23:16

    Best team I've seen so far, still scrolling down tho =p

    Keenbutclueless · 23/01/2017 at 23:47

    I like it! I have gone the same structure, so I am very biased. Love the 6 deep mid. So many are playing Beams or Swallow at M6. I have shaved a few premos down a bit so I can get 3 premo forward plus Ryder.

MaccA · 23/01/2017 at 14:57

D: Doc, Adams, JJ, scharenberg, Long, ryan (berry, stewart)

M: Danger, pendles, JPK, treloar, bont, fyfe, myers, SPP (graham, freeman, bolton)

R: Gawn, sandi (strdinca)

F: dahl, caddy, ryder, roughie, picket, galluci, smith, eddy

really happy with this
any thoughts community

    wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 17:01

    It's a very solid looking team Macca I share the attraction to Adams as D2 but I keep going back to his injury history and worry that he might break a leg running through the banner, the biggest worry is that he has a history of early season injury. There is more competition for mid time at Port than people realise so I'd have a backup plan for M8 just in case SPP doesn't get a run early. I try to follow a season starting 22 rule of 'Maximum 3 blokes who've never played AFL'. It helps keep the scores up over the first 3-weeks and makes it easier to survive an unfortunate rookie choice

      MaccA · 24/01/2017 at 01:46

      yeh i was tossing up with laird and adams
      cheers for the thought on the rookies i was warned off mid pricers like many others but will have to consider how well the rookies will perform in the early season

Carlos · 23/01/2017 at 15:18

Def: S. Docherty, H. Shaw, T. Adams, A. McGrath, L. Ryan, J. Berry (B. Long, T. Stewart)

Mid: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, JP. Kennedy, A. Treloar, N Fyfe, D. Beams, D. Swallow, D. Meyers (S. Powell-Pepper, J. Graham, N. Freeman)

Ruck: M. Gawn, A. Sandilands (D. Cameron)

Fwd: L. Dahlhaus, J. McCrae, P. Ryder, H. McCluggage, B Eddy, T. Smith. (W. Rioli, S. Bolton).

Thoughts community? Liking Ryder for ruck cover but not completely sold on him. If a ruck rookie gets a game I'm leaning towards turning Ryder into N. Riewoldt.

wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 15:22

Here's something a little different a few other viable rookies for you mob to investigate
Montag,Laird,JJ,Shitberg,Berry,Ryan,Stewart,Long
Danger,Pendle,Gaz,Smurph,Fyfe,Heppell,Swallow,Myers,Brown,Williams, Graham
Max,Sandi,strndwxzyla
StNick,Dahlhouse,Petrie,Elliott,McCarthy,Galluci,Pickett, Rioli
130k for pies and beer

    I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 16:12

    Swallow Myers Brown. After everything that's been pumped into Myers i'll pass

      Benchwarmers · 23/01/2017 at 16:30

      Hasn't Myers passed the cup test now? On the positive side (I know), his two heads make it better to read the play!

      wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 17:03

      Surely Petrie,Elliot,McCarthy is of more concern than Swallow Myers Brown?

        I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 17:15

        Noticed that as well Wombat! Very ballsy

          Benchwarmers · 23/01/2017 at 21:34

          Elliot been in and out of my team as well, at $290k he could turn out a bargain if he pushes up to 85-90, looking fit, see what role he plays in the preseason.

      Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:28

      Myers maybe biggest lock in the comp

    Tomscharenberg · 24/01/2017 at 13:09

    Shitberg?

Rainman · 23/01/2017 at 15:53

Plenty of over 30s here but proven is proven. Pick the teeth out of it lads

DEF: Simpson Shaw Adams McGrath Scharenberg Ryan (Newman Long)

MID: Dangerfield Ablett JPK Treloar Rockliff Fyfe Myers Freeman (Berry(Def) Graham Bolton(Fwd))

RUC: Gawn Sandilands (Strnadica)

FWD: Riewoldt Deledio Bennell Knight Bowes Pickett (Eddy Smith)

    Liam · 23/01/2017 at 16:12

    Not a fan of the expensive rookies would downgrade them and use the cash elsewhere.

      Rainman · 23/01/2017 at 16:20

      Will change if needed if better options present themselves. McGrath and Bowes both starters for mine and will play alot early

        Kev · 24/01/2017 at 09:58

        I'd go Ainsworth over Bowes. He'll be at the feet of Lynch, Wright, Day

      Derek · 23/01/2017 at 17:12

      Cheap rookies (with maybe one exception if you really have to) are to sit on the bench as cash cows and only be used if there is a one week injury or late out etc. Looking at a couple of the expensive rookies this year (McGrath & McCluggage) they should do ok on field and should score 75+. Much happy with an expensive rookie than a cheaper mid-pricer (Swallow, Boyd etc) save some cash and score some reliable points.

      Look at Mills and Weitering last year. their point scoring was pretty good and was as good as alot of the mid-price players (Brodie Smith, KK etc)

      Every year there is a cheap rookie or two who plays first round and does ok, but eventually they will hurt your score if you rely on them too much.

        Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:31

        Wouldn't class a lad who has never played AFL as reliable points… proceed with caution.

        Doesn't matter if you get a crap score on the ground with a cheap rookie, you spend the cash elsewhere and make up the points.

          Derek · 24/01/2017 at 09:16

          With injuries last year I had too many cheap rookies on field early and they were very poor. I wished I had weiteting and mills.

          I'm not saying the expensive rookies are competing with the cheap rookies for spots in my team, they are competing against the midpriced players so you are saving cash as well

    wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 17:13

    That team will not get beaten by any other team posted here for the next 8-weeks. Freo have pretty much ruled Harley out for round 1 Rainman and Delidio's durability is always an issue. I agree with Liam about the expensive rooks they don't usually score any more than the cheapies so they don't make as much money early

      Rainman · 23/01/2017 at 17:30

      Bennell could well be Roughy but there until officially ruked out. Lids risk v reward… previous injuries have been due to limuted pre season… if he gets through reckon he can be number 1 fwd in that giants monolith. Thanks for the feedback

      Derek · 23/01/2017 at 23:29

      I disagree. The expensive rookies will score better than the cheap rookies. And if I have have either on field, I would have the expensive most days.

      The cheapie s will do ok for a week or two but will then have a stinker, just when you need them. They are bench cash cows only.

        Derek · 23/01/2017 at 23:30

        Can't wait for magazine

        wombatsfc · 24/01/2017 at 09:56

        That's what Donald Trump would call an alternative fact on rookie output Derek

Benchwarmers · 23/01/2017 at 15:58

Guns n Rooks for the most part….
Simmo, Adams, The Burger, Scharenberg, Berry, Ryan (Stewart, Long)
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, Myers, SPP (M Hibberd, Pickett, Graham)
Maxy, Sandi (Strnadica)
NRoo, Da Haus, Macrae, Knight, Thomas, Rioli (Smith, Eddy)

$140k left re any first up injury, adjustments. The mids bench of Hibbs and Pickett in at this stage re dpp link, but with any rookies can change. Riley Knight might swap into the big Orange Roughie, and reckon Josh Thomas, if in best 22, can go as well if not better than one of the higher priced rookies (may end up a cheap rookie depending and preseason games). Beams also is a wait and see how he's travelling, especially if he turns up to training in an orange Gary hat!

    Liam · 23/01/2017 at 16:06

    Very similar structure and players to me. Fair to say I like it!!

      Liam · 23/01/2017 at 16:06

      But who is the burger ?

        Benchwarmers · 23/01/2017 at 16:25

        Shaun Burgoyne, reckon he might see even more mid time than last year, solid scores over the whole year, slide into the top 8 def??

          Liam · 23/01/2017 at 16:27

          Have a couples guys ahead of him but do like him as an option.

            Kev · 23/01/2017 at 17:26

            Josh Thomas on the rookie list at the moment

          Derek · 23/01/2017 at 17:16

          Burgoyne will score well if he goes into the guts until JOM is ready. however, it might be Cyril, Bruest, Hodge or even Roughie who goes into the middle. the problem is, if Burgoyne doesn't, he will score 75-80 and at $500k defender than is a poor ROI.

            wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 17:39

            Agree 100% He's burned me a couple of times after showing his full SC capacity in the finals and then being super defensive for the first 12 games of the following year

              Derek · 23/01/2017 at 17:50

              Burgoyne will do whatever clarko needs him to do. he will have weeks when his role will be a high SC scoring week and others when it is purely defensive and poor SC. Not a year long keeper. He might even start the first few weeks in the guts and everyone will be jumping on him, and then JOM comes in about Round 4. Big No from me.

          Patch · 23/01/2017 at 21:04

          love the Burgoyne pick, Bench! Have similar thoughts re: selecting Hodge. Burgoyne won't get suspended like Hodge will though!

            Benchwarmers · 23/01/2017 at 21:12

            Thanks re all the suggestions guys, good to see different views. Plenty to ponder, and you could be right Patch re loose cannon Lukey!

    fatboyfat7 · 24/01/2017 at 00:04

    Like the team Bench! And obviously a fan of the Burgoyne selection! 😉

    Feel like I keep re-posting the same comment on multiple teams but the R11 bye will be hard with that fwd line. Roo, Dahl, Macrae, Smith will all miss and if Pickett does get a bench spot, he'll miss to so can't swing him in. Just something to consider…

Liam · 23/01/2017 at 15:59

Hey Community, my current team as it is.
Haven't changed it in a while (which is a good think).

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Scharenberg, Hibberd, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)

MID: Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Rocky, Fyfe, Beams, SPP, Myers (Freeman, Gore, Graham)

RUC: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)

FWD: Roo, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Bennell/Roughead, Black, Pickett (NOMCOC, Eddy)

I have chosen who I think will be top in each position then adding some value picks that will score well and possibly become keepers. I'm not interested in any of the rookies with elevated price unless I can see them scoring 75+ each week.

Please give me your thoughts on my team.
Cheers Liam.

    wombatsfc · 23/01/2017 at 17:28

    I was worried when I saw photos recently of Beams walking into a Brisbane Private Hospital but then last Friday on Better Homes and Gardens they had an interview with him in his new 'footy season apartment'. Luxury inner city living with room service, it just happens to be in a building that also has an operating theatre and medical staff everywhere

      Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:36

      Pop in to get the nails done and have a daily knee clean, love it

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:39

    Very nice team… Don't like Rocky risk together with Fyfe and Beams tho.

Rivo · 23/01/2017 at 16:18

It's been challenging Jock. Preseason will sort out rookie picks.

Def: Docherty, Shaw, Rance, T. Adams, McGrath, Schaernberg (Ryan, T.Stewart);

Mids: Danger, Pendles, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, O'Mera, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Bolton, Freeman, Graham);

Rucks: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)

Fwds: N.Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Ryder, McCluggage, Pickett, Bowes (Eddy, Smith).

    Derek · 23/01/2017 at 17:20

    JOM looks like he won't be ready until at least round 4.

      Rivo · 23/01/2017 at 17:46

      Thanks – may revert back to Swallow, or consider a POD such as Roughy?

Stirlsy · 23/01/2017 at 16:20

Refer to TEAM Reveal v1.0

No Changes….

Chef Locky · 23/01/2017 at 16:23

what time does this brilliant game open ? I will be like a kid on xmas morning !!

    TOMAHAWK · 24/01/2017 at 00:17

    I'm just sitting here refreshing.

      Brown Cow · 24/01/2017 at 00:22

      Nice one THawk. The other site says midnight tonight but we will see. Danger should still be there in the morning.

      Chef Locky · 24/01/2017 at 13:17

      this is annoying

Botswana · 23/01/2017 at 16:34

First post guys
DEF: Doc, Heater, Rance, Adams, Ryan, NOMCOC, (Berry, Stewart)
MIDS: Danger, Hannabery, Treloar, Rocky, Fyfe, Pow-Pep, Myers, Pickett,(Bowes, Parfitt, Graham)
Ricks: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: Lids, Buddy, Lynch (GC), Hosk-Elliott, Ainsworth, Galluci (Adel), (Smith, Eddy)

    Derek · 23/01/2017 at 17:26

    pretty solid, 13 keepers, pure GnR team. teams without Beams to me look so much better. allows a premium D4.

    personally i'd swap either Lids or Lynch to Dahlhaus.

      Botswana · 23/01/2017 at 17:33

      Thanks Derek, will strongly consider

        jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 20:28

        Welcome Botso! Great team – the more I think of Lids the more I appreciate the move of starting him. Gigantic POD – if he plays he won't drop in price, big risk, but big competitive advantage if he fires

Mallee Boy · 23/01/2017 at 16:41

V 2, although still a few changes to be made.
Backs: Shaw, Hurley, Lloyd, Bob Murphy ??, [Newman, Long, Ryan, Stewart]
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, T. Mitchell, Steven, Watson, [Powell-Pepper, Myers, Freeman, Graham, Jarman]
Rucks: Gawn, Jacobs, [Strnadica]
Fwds: Roo, Dahl, Heeney, Knight, [McCluggage, Pickett, Smith, Eddy]

I figured that given the lack of stand-out fwds, I'd go with 2 of the top 3 & see what happens. Bob Murphy up back is not locked in, but the blokes a goer. Watson is a bit of a punt, but he's a gun & could do anything.

Pick it to pieces!!!!

    James · 23/01/2017 at 17:04

    Just wondering bud, who's Roo?

      Kev · 23/01/2017 at 17:08

      Nick Riewoldt

        James · 23/01/2017 at 17:09

        Cheers mate

    Kev · 23/01/2017 at 17:11

    Some fantastic defensive options this year, Mallee Boy. Shaw + 3 midpricers probably isn't the best.

    Derek · 23/01/2017 at 17:32

    i'd take a punt of Heppell but not Watson as he may not spend much time in the guts this year.

    Steven will find it difficult with a deep midfield at Saints, refer to last weeks PODcast.

    Knight could be the bargin or the year.

    First team i've seen with Sause Jacobs. i think his best days are behind him.

Krups · 23/01/2017 at 16:59

DEF: Simspon, Shaw, Williams, Scharenberg, Hibbard, Ryan ( Newman & Long )
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Trelor, Fyfe, White, SSP, SPP ( Myers, Alison, Graham )
Ruck: Grundy , Sandi ( Stmadica )
FWD: Roo, Dahl, Lynch, Ryder, Bennell, Pickett ( Smith & Eddy )

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 20:29

    Love seeing that big Roo at F1 Kruppo

Damien · 23/01/2017 at 17:04

I can't actually remember exactly how I had mine set up before the 2017 picker went down, but using the Higginator, I think this is how I had it.

Shaw, Laird, Burgoyne (Ryan)
Berry, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart)

Danger, Pendles (Graham)
Kennedy, Treloar, Bontempelli (Witherden)
Fyfe, SPP, Myers (Pickett)

Gawn, Ryder (Cameron)

N Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Wingard (Parfitt)
T Smith, Balic, Brown (Long)

Love to hear your thoughts.

    Damien · 23/01/2017 at 17:11

    Yep, this is how I had it. and I remember because my remaining coin is $118,300 and I remember wondering where to spend it, or if I needed to spend it.

      Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:44

      Spend it… I would look for more fwd line picks, I don't think we will have 5 rooks on the park named for R1 in that line this year (I am budgeting for 2 only plus Aaron Black)

    Kev · 23/01/2017 at 17:15

    Looks good, Damien. Personally not a fan of Wingard. I'd swap him with Ryder and grab another R2. You should be able to afford Stef Martin or Sandi, maybe even Grundy

      Damien · 23/01/2017 at 17:26

      The thing that intrigues me about Wingard is how is averages fluctuate.
      2012 – 51
      2013 – 98
      2014 – 79
      2015 – 97
      2016 – 80
      2017 – high 90s average again?

      But you're right, Ryder could be the safer option in F3.

Canny the Manny · 23/01/2017 at 17:55

Am currently neglecting an annoyed Missus at the moment, so I'll try and make it quick… although she should know Supercoach preseason is an important time of the year and shouldn't be taken lightly.

BACKS: T. Adams R. Laird J. Johannisen B. Long
M. Scharenberg C. Hampton J. Berry L. Ryan

MIDS: T. Rockliff M. Bontempelli N. Fyfe T. Mitchell N. Freeman
D. Beams D. Swallow A. Witherden
S. Powell-Pepper D. Myers J. Graham

RUCKS: M. Gawn T. Goldstein L. Strnadica

FORWARDS: L. Dahlhouse J. Macrae P. Ryder J. Pickett
H. Bennell J. Roughead M. White B. Eddy

I'm a tad unsure; structure wise, regarding midfield strength with Beams at either M5 or M6, leaning towards M5 at this stage due to the luxury of having Myers at M8 and Swallow at M6 which strengthen the mids enough in my opinion.
No Dangerfield at the moment, that's not a certainty, I just feel if he has a slow start which he isn't immune to having, I'll be ahead of the pack and it will allow me to splash some cash elsewhere.

Not sure on Goldy at R2 either, I would love nothing more than to go Sandi but he's body is a liability and I prefer not to stuff around in the ruck department.

I've gone pretty heavy in the Forwards this year, we're not spoiled for choice in terms of quality players. The amount of mid-pricers worry me, but Bennell and Roughead will only start in my team round 1 if they're fit and ideally have played a few NAB games, they're both much better than their price indicates. Not sure about Ryder either, not a fan of him as far as fantasy footy goes, but if he's cemented as Port's NO1 ruck then I'll probably have to pick him.

Guns and Rookies sort of Backline, but if Scharenberg and Hampton get on the park, they'll produce well above rookie standard.

Cheers lads.

    Dave · 23/01/2017 at 18:46

    finally a non danger side!

      jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 20:31

      YES. Admirable commitment despite pressure from the cheese & kisses as well!

    Canny the Manny · 23/01/2017 at 20:37

    Ahh I've just realised the text has been switched up after I've submitted it. Damn, some rookies appear like they're on my field but they're in fact on the bench.

    TOMAHAWK · 24/01/2017 at 00:19

    Mate if she's huffing now on Day 1 imagine how tough her life is about to get…!

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:47

    Solid team but risky, looks like a museum of potentially cooked players

Harvey · 23/01/2017 at 18:01

Hey lads, good to be back for SuperCoach 2017! Thoughts on my team would be great.

DEF: Simpson, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Berry and Ryan (Long and Stewart)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Bont, Fyfe, Heppell, Swallow, Brodie and Myers (Powell-Pepper, Fisher and Graham)
RUC: Gawn and Goldy (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Heeney, Taranto, McCluggage and Bowes (Williams and Eddy)

11.5k left with a not so good bye structure of (R9) 5, (R11) 9, (R12) 4, (R13) 11. Cheers!

    Patch · 23/01/2017 at 21:02

    Nice harvs! Would hold off on Taranto – will struggle to break into the GWS midfield, and even if he does, will struggle to make enough cash to make it worthwhile. Feel McCluggage will have a better shot, but hold out for the JR mag on elevated rookie prices!

    Looks very solid though mate! Haven't seen many with Lids

      Harvey · 23/01/2017 at 21:23

      I've opted to risk it in the forward line there but if Deledio has a role that could trouble his scores in the JLT series, I'll probably end up going Franklin/Macrae. Downgrading Taranto will bag me an extra 70k. Thanks for the feedback mate.

tom · 23/01/2017 at 18:16

Thoughts?

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Ryan, Berry, Logue, Newman
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Selwood, Sloane, Fyfe, Swallow, Petrevski-Seton, Powell-Pepper, Myers, Hibberd, Graham
RUC: Gawn, Grundy, Strnadica
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Long, Rioli, Eddy, Smith

    fatboyfat7 · 23/01/2017 at 18:53

    The Rd 11 bye will be hard to manage with that Fwd line… Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Long & Smith will all miss….

Paul · 23/01/2017 at 18:23

Hi Community.
First year as part of your community. 2nd year SuperCoach player. Have loved all the player reviews and have taken it all on board as I have selected my team.

Def: Docherty, T. Adams, Laird, Keefe, Scharenberg, Mitchell Hibberd, (Newan, Ryan).

Mids: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, J.P.Kennedy, Fyfe, Tom Mitchell, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Myers ( Freeman, Bolton, Graham.)

Rucks: Gawn, Sandilands ( Strnadica).

Fwds: Dahlhous, Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Thomas, Long. ( Lebois, Eddy ).

Remaining salary: $4,300.

Would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks Paul.

    2017CHAMPION · 23/01/2017 at 19:25

    very solid team mate love tom mitchell as a POD

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 20:34

    Paul! Great to have you son! I like T Mitch as well, Keefe gives you another sprinkle of the unique. Solid all round,

    Gotta say – surprised just how many are comfortable with Sandiballs at R2

      Derek · 24/01/2017 at 00:13

      His price Jock! Look at his price! Cheaper than LOBBE last year.

        jockreynolds · 24/01/2017 at 09:43

        Yeah I see it old mate – but he'll break, I'm bloody certain of it. Then the dilemma of trying to replace him at that price could be a real season wrecker! Having said that.. I've been considering Giles. Haagaaahha I love this bloody game

    fatboyfat7 · 23/01/2017 at 23:58

    Rd11 bye will be hard on your forwards… Dahl, Macrae, Heeney & Long will miss…

Rogie · 23/01/2017 at 18:33

Hey all, I'm not seeing any love for Bernie Vince who is DPP in the backline. I didn't catch many Melbourne games last year and while he's pricey, if he runs through the midfield is he worth a punt or am I missing something? Cheers

    Brown Cow · 23/01/2017 at 19:07

    He had some defensive roles late last year after starting strongly Rogie. As you say one for the watchlist if he runs through the middle.

      The_Hyphen · 23/01/2017 at 19:26

      I found he scored better when tagging!

    The_Hyphen · 23/01/2017 at 19:10

    I'm with you on this one Rog!

      jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 20:35

      The biggest worry is how packed that Melbourne midfield now is. He dropped off late in the year after he started spending more time back

MOC · 23/01/2017 at 18:44

DEF: Simmo, Rance, Laird, Schranberg, Keefe, Newman, Vickers-Willis, Newman, Ryan
MID: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Treloar, Fyfe, Murphy, Brodie, Berry, Myers, SPP, Hibberd
RUCK: Martin, Sandi, Strnadica
FWD: Dahl, Lynch (GC), Caddy, Rough, Turner, Eddy, Long, Pickett

Relatively happy structure wise. Only thing i may change is go sandi to grundy then rough down to a rookie if one of sandi or rough doesn't come up r1. Thoughts much appreciated.

    Patch · 23/01/2017 at 21:01

    Love the Lynch and Kennedy calls, MOC. I'm torn between Lynch and Gunston at the moment and can't decide at all.

      MOC · 23/01/2017 at 21:15

      Yeh I'm a bit the same patch re Gunston vs lynch! I'm just going lynch for now as personal preference and a bit of cognitive bias coz I love watching him play. Can't go wrong with either imo

      Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:50

      GAJ training in the orange hat = no ball for Lynch. I'd take Gunston at this stage (esp with Roughy back hopefully).

        MOC · 24/01/2017 at 09:46

        That may not be entirely true! Because if you just include the 8 games that Ablett didn't play, then lynch's average goes to 96 so I don't think he'll be that heavily affected.

Damien · 23/01/2017 at 18:55

Harley Bennell hasn't joined full training yet. Surprised to see him in so many teams.

    Jib Jib · 24/01/2017 at 12:38

    A lot of puff pieces about him in the media yesterday, could be why.

The_Hyphen · 23/01/2017 at 19:21

Just a quick one gentleman, I'm incredibly keen on Dom sheed this year. Showed heaps towards the back half of the year. At a relatively awkward price at 270k however I'm backing him to be a big stepping stone to a fallen promo around the byes hopefully reaching 450-500k. Anyone convince me otherwise?

    AMAC · 23/01/2017 at 20:49

    Interesting, he's about the right age with the right profile. He's priced at around 50. If you think he can get to 90 then he is probably worth a punt however I would first like to see how Sam Mitchell is used and how this could help him. Secondly, is he better value than Scooter or Swallow who could both go up by 40+. Thirdly, will there be other, much cheaper rookies who will make more cash? Good watchlister imo.

    Patch · 23/01/2017 at 21:00

    Like the left of centre thinking, Hyphen. I've cautiously had my eye on him too, but I did the maths last week on it – (http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2017/01/19/supercoach-midpricers-a-conclusive-look-at-why-they-suck/#idc-container)

    He'd need to average over 90 to gain the 230k required to hit 500k. If Smitch hadn't been brought in, he might be a chance but I'm not sure he'll consistently hit 90 for the first half of the year.

    Love the thinking though!

    Billy · 23/01/2017 at 23:19

    I chucked an article up for the community series regarding sheed mate, have a look!
    Im intruiged by him as well, think he'll be a star one day its just a matter of when. Too much uncertainty for me to pick him at this stage but I could be convinced in lre-season

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:54

    Swallow seems like a much safer bet for same upside

Shane-o · 23/01/2017 at 19:33

Shane-o's Lads version gosh only knows of about a million!

Def: Docherty; Laird; Johannisen; Berry; Vickers-Willis; Long; Ryan; Stewart

Mid: Dangerfield; Fyfe; Bontempelli; Hannebery; Treloar; Merrett; Heppell; Graham; Powell-Pepper; Myers; Wigg

Ruck: Gawn; Grundy; Strnadica

Fwd: Dalhaus; Ryder; Bolton; Brown; Rioli; Poholke; Eddy

Approx 130k left. Rookies are obviously very fluid at this stage and depend on round 1 teams. Deliberately stacked midfield, and light forward line and a distinct lack of midpriced options 'cause i got so badly burned last year!

    The_Hyphen · 23/01/2017 at 19:49

    I like your setup shaneo!
    Just becomes risky if fwds rookies don't get consistent games! Hell of a lot of cash generation if it pays off though

      Shane-o · 23/01/2017 at 20:55

      Thanks hyphen you've hit the nail on the head. High cash generation and 13+ starting premos was my game plan. Not too focused on rookies just yet but the plan is to have plenty of flexibility between mid and fwd lines with my rooks to offset the lack of premos in the fwd 50. Will likely bring in mccluggage as i believe he will play a lot early and turn and burn the rest as fast as possible to hit full premo quick sticks 🙂

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:56

    You're going to have to go with some midpricers, and pony up that extra cash in the piggy bank. We won't have so many playing fwd rookies named for R1 imo.

Mac · 23/01/2017 at 19:35

DEF: Doc, Adams, Laird, McGarth, Scharenberg, Ryan (Stewart Long )
MID: Danger, Ablett, Fyfe, Tmitch, Beams, Murphy, SPP, Myers ( Pickett Bolton Graham )
RUC: Gawn, Sandi ( Strnadica )
FWD: Dahl, Caddy, Heeney, Ryder, Roughy, Black ( Smith Eddy )

Maybe Ablett to Selwood
Not sure if Beams and Murphy is a good idea

First go today
Thoughts anyone?

    Damien · 23/01/2017 at 20:18

    Ablett hasn't joined full contact training yet, that shoulder is still being managed. You could also swap Ablett to Treloar or Priddis as well. All similarly priced, and great contributers. Last year Priddis went bang at the start of the year and was solid all the way through, only 5 of his scores were under 100 and only four under 80 (79, 77, 76, 75)

    I would definitely swap out of Beams or Murphy. Beams has come out and said that his knee will be forever stuffed, so I'd go a Jobe Watson instead if you need someone similarly priced.

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 08:58

    Lots of experimental picks, would try to work in a few guys who have been top in their position over multiple years and don't have recent inj history.

Fuat · 23/01/2017 at 20:02

Back – docherty laird jj McGrath scharenberg berry (Ryan, Stewart)

Mid – danger pendlez gaz treloar fyfe beams swallow powell-pepper (Myers freeman graham)

Ruck – gawn Ryder (strnadica)

Fwd – dalhause heeney roughy mcluggage bowes black (Pickett eddy)

richard · 23/01/2017 at 20:20

DEF Shaw Montagna Adams Murphy Rook x 4
MID Pendlebury Sloane Bont Watson Murphy Beams D.Swallow Rook x 4
RUC Jacobs Sandilands Rook x 1 R/F
FWD Dahlhaus Ryder Wingard Bennell Roughead Cloke Rook x 2

Mid price madness if you dare but all these have hit premo at some stage in their careers
$ 6,300 left

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 09:00

    Crazy cowboy team.

      Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 09:01

      Remember there is a difference between a POD and a POS.

Patch · 23/01/2017 at 20:57

I've had to completely re-do my side since I found mid pricers are completely terrible: pure, PURE guns and rookies here and a lot will change as I've only had a few drafts to keep myself fresh.

So here are the potatoes as of the third or fourth draft, with rookies completely up to change:

DEF: S. Docherty, R. Laird, T. McDonald, M. Scharenberg, S. McLarty, C. Hampton, L. Ryan, A. Morgan
MID: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, J. P. Kennedy, R. Sloane, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, D Myers, B. Sier, P. Ahern, N. Freemna, K. Mutch
RUC: M. Gawn, A. Sandilands, L. Strnadica
FWD: L. Dahlhaus, J. Gunston, I. Heeney, J. Roughead, H. McLuggage, S. Durdin, W. Rioli, E. Himmelberg

Steering completely clear of mid-pricers in the middle. I'm having none of it, aside from potentially Marc Murphy, maybe. It's very cookie cutter for now, but once I can trawl through Ocker's stats I might be able to find something I like more up forward and down back.

    I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 21:27

    Wouldn't Heeney & tmac sit firmly in your no mid pricer strategy. I'd replace Heeney with Ryder so he covers your rucks. And whilst they are somewhat place holders, lots of your rookies won't play round 1. I do like that midfield. 5 rock solid durable beasts

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 21:59

      Not sold on Ryder. In team at the moment.
      Hoping he is gonna convince me to pick him during JLT.
      Patch you convinced me to remove beams, murphy and swallow after your game changing article.
      Did u use the innie meeney miney mo selection method for rooks?
      Some interesting choices there.

    Kev · 23/01/2017 at 21:43

    Your guns look great, Patch! I'm gonna pick on your rooks. McLarty buggered his shoulder in Sept and is on non-contact drills at the Pies. Hampton might struggle for regular games, as will Himmelberg. Ahern needs a knee reco (again)

    Morgan and Sier are new names for me. Any info?

    Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 23:11

    Don't mean to be pedantic but isn't there a lot of mid pricers in there for a pure GNR team?

    After reading your article I also decided on a pure GNR team, but the forward line options are just nasty this year. Toying with the Nick Riewoldt but I just he's gone 1 year too long and will drop form like poor old Pavlich.

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 09:05

    Good team… Heppell probs not a top 15 mid (therefore a mid pricer??). Also what are Sandi, Heeney and Roughy? Embrace the dark side Patch, you know you want to load up on these bargain picks!

    Luskin Star · 25/01/2017 at 01:17

    WHAT no Zach

Tommo09 · 23/01/2017 at 21:00

Breakout year last year with rank around 3k previously it was about 100k and the community played a big part in that rise
Still not very good compared to the rest of the community but here is my team (V1)
Using The Higginator

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Stewart
MID: Danger, GAZ, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Myers
RUC: Gawn, Sandi
FWD: Dahl, Buddy, Lynch (GCS), Heeney, McCluggage, Bowes

Haven't bothered with bench rookies yet as they will change heaps

Open to any suggestions or ideas
Not sold on Buddy, Sandi, Beams or Shaw

Thanks Jock and Community

    Jib Jib · 23/01/2017 at 23:00

    The injury risk presented by having Gaz, Fyfe, Beams and Swallow in the same midfield would give me cold sweats.

    The forward cupboard is bare this year, Buddy is as good a pick as anyone else there as long as you're prepared to accept his outrageously inconsistent scores. If Sandi stays fit I think he should score around 100. It's not like he'll be a POD this year so if he gets injured it shouldn't ruin you. Beams is just too much of an injury risk for me, massive upside but he literally gets injured every season, at some point that's got to start affect his ceiling. Shaw is a lock.

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 09:07

    Excellent trajectory in recent years but lack of a full pre season this year, not convinced you can make the jump to premo coach this year. One to put on the watch list tho.

    fatboyfat7 · 25/01/2017 at 01:05

    R11 bye doesn't suit the fwd line. Dahl, Buddy, Heeney, McCluggage all miss…

      Tommo09 · 25/01/2017 at 09:43

      Traded Buddy for Bennell

Patch · 23/01/2017 at 21:07

Missing a few rookies like SPP here, too. They'll find their way in in subsequent drafts

Vicki · 23/01/2017 at 21:23

Hello Community.

First time SuperCoach player, any feedback would greatly appreciated.

Def: Docherty, T.Adams, Laird, Scharenberg, Berry, Newman, (Ryan, Stewart).

Mids: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Treloar, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Myers, ( Freeman, Graham, Bolton).

Rucks: Grundy, Sandilands (Cameron)

Fwds: Dahlhaus, T. Lynch, Heeney, Ryder, Thomas, W. Rioli, (Long, Eddy).

Cash: $3,500.

Thank you Vicki.

    Kev · 23/01/2017 at 21:29

    Adams feels like a trap. Having not played out a season is a worry, you want a bit of security at D2.

    Thomas on the rookie list.

    Lachie · 25/01/2017 at 20:58

    You could miss the boat with Gawn, so it's a high risk high reward going with Grundy. The rest seems pretty solid, not 100% sure on Rioli though.

The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 21:46

Def – Shaw ,docherty , Burgoyne , Hampton , Newman , vickery willis ( Ryan , Stewart )
Midfield – danger , pendles , hanners , treloar , Fyfe , beams , swallow , Myers ( Powell pepper , graham , Bolton )
Ruck – Gawn , Martin (strnadica)
Forward – Dahl , macrae , Bennell , Thomas , lamb , eddy ( Rioli , smith )

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 22:05

    Big boys in the ruck bont like it.
    Some speculative picks ie bennell and Thomas but obviously early days.
    Too top dogs up fwd haven't seen that again nice move

      The Bont · 24/01/2017 at 10:18

      Yeah Thomas and Bennell obviously open to fitness and selection , but both way under if they start round one , aside said a few times not sold on heeney. Excited for the JLT cup

Holmes_Heroes · 23/01/2017 at 22:35

Hi all, first time commenting been reading all the reviews with great interest so thank you to all involved. Current draft of team:

Def – Docherty, Adams, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)
Mid – Danger, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Heppel, Mark Murphy, Myers, SPP (Freeman, Graham, Leonardis)
Ruck – Gawn, Grundy (Strndica)
Fwd – Dahl, Caddy, Ryder, Hoskin-Elliot, Knight, Bowes (Pickett Eddy)

Not sold on Adams, just don't like any other premium defender either. Ryder may become Heeney but I've been scared off by Patch's article…

    jockreynolds · 23/01/2017 at 22:58

    A warm welcome Holmesy! Like a lot of what I see here mate. Like Grundy. Many will say there's not enough upside in him but I reckon he'll be the prime ruck emergence individual this season. very solid mate

      Holmes_Heroes · 23/01/2017 at 23:03

      thanks Jock and thanks for all your work on the site

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 00:32

    I'm seeing less teams with Henry. Patch has everyone second guessing.

      Derek · 24/01/2017 at 00:32

      Heeney

    Boomz · 24/01/2017 at 01:42

    ooooooo holmsy

steve · 23/01/2017 at 23:06

Hello Community. First time poster. SC addict.

Def: Doc Shaw Rance Tmac Newman Ryan (Stewart Sproule)

Mids: Danger Pendles Fyfe GAJ Treloar Beams Swallow Po-Pepp (Myers Brown Graham)

Rucks: Gawn Sandi (Strnadica)

Fwds: Franklin Ryder Roughead Black Pickett Rioli (Eddie Bolton)

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 13:07

    Lock in Dahl for sure I reckon. GAJ in zero contact training, would look elsewhere. Very nice team tho.

      TOMAHAWK · 24/01/2017 at 22:29

      U can get Dahl anytime Buddy's opening to the season could be massive.

Jedd · 23/01/2017 at 23:43

Def- Docherty, Adams,Johannisen, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg (Ryan, Stewart)

Mid- Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Bolton, Freeman, Graham)

Ruck- Gawn, Sandilands ( Strnadica)

Forward- Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, McCluggage, Bowes, Smith ( Pickett, Eddy)

$236,900 in bank

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 13:08

    Get those dollars on the field amigo.

    TOMAHAWK · 24/01/2017 at 22:30

    Don't leave loot in the bank Homie

Tys · 24/01/2017 at 00:30

SuperCoach not open yet :/

    Redgumwon · 24/01/2017 at 07:37

    Not yet for the general public. It was open for subscription members but that looks to have closed now. I can't access it anymore

      the_German · 24/01/2017 at 08:22

      I expect it will open when the Hun has it's staff at work to respond to the heavy load of reopening the site. Whilst probably done by contractors, the Hun will no doubt have the phone lines pummeled with problems with the load.

        Westy · 24/01/2017 at 09:03

        And apparently needs a log in before you can even enter the site.

          hedski · 24/01/2017 at 09:42

          Using hs log in doesn't work yet.

The_German · 24/01/2017 at 08:20

DEF: Shaw, T Adams, JJ, Bob, McGrath, Ryan, Stewart, Vick-Will
MID: Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Jelwood, JPK, Fiorini, SPP, Myers, Graham, Bolton, Parfitt
RUCK: Gawn, Sandi, Strnadica
FWD: Dahl, Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, Luggage, Rioli, Eddy, Long.

Rookies will surface no doubt, so all rookies will shift to accommodate those who get the early start.
Bennell is questionable, but Roughy could slot in here.

I'm impressed with Fiorini and his finish last year. I think he's set to explode.
Bob, well, there's significant history to his durability, alas not from such an injury. The early preseason will
determine whether he ends up here or I load up with another mid-price or rookie.

Hard to go full Premo-Rookie considering there is some mid-pricers that are tempting. Sure Patch has made some
great analysis, but haven't we all been burned by not picking up that mid-pricer that explodes (and those who picked
up on Barlow!).

I'm in the corner that you may pick 2-3 mid-priced options, but we will need to see some preseason form to decide on
who those are. Got to keep an eye out on a number of options, especially those coming back from injury.

Going to be a fun year as I think this is where the men will be separated from the boys, not around rookie selection this
year, but around the mid-priced, fallen or injured premo's and who you pick will determine to where you sit in the
SC pecking order.

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 09:21

    There will be those with Beams and those without. He is shaping up as the dividing line as it changes the whole structure.

    Sandi, bob and roughie are similar on the other lines. All great value

    j_Swallow · 31/01/2017 at 13:57

    like your fiorini choice dunkley from wb also ready to explode. will not be picking dangerfield at current price. will use extra money for premium pod midfielder ie coniglio or cripps

Tommo09 · 24/01/2017 at 09:23

Should Watson and Heppell be in our teams?

    Redgumwon · 24/01/2017 at 10:39

    I'd say watch both to see how they go in the preseason games.

    Wighty · 24/01/2017 at 12:27

    Watson flying apparently…so much to prove…453k……in my side ahead of heppell who doesn't get a lot of contested ball.

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 14:31

    Not top mids, therefore only take for cash generation if a) not enough good rookies and/or b) want a smooth upgrade path to a better premo.

    Watson will make much more cash if fit so would take him over Heppell. But have Beams and MMurphy ahead of either for that role.

      Dont Blush Baby · 24/01/2017 at 21:30

      Deciding between Murphy and Beam , I don't think we can go with both? dunno, maybe risk can be reward

    Danners · 24/01/2017 at 19:49

    Watson is a bit long in the tooth, Heppell I'm considering

Seth · 24/01/2017 at 09:47

Is it open today?

    Seth · 24/01/2017 at 09:48

    For general public?

      Kev · 24/01/2017 at 10:00

      Yep. Not yet. Check back this arvo

        Seth · 24/01/2017 at 10:06

        Righto thanks mate

Jambo · 24/01/2017 at 11:17

Def: H Shaw [VC], K Simpson, R Laird, B Vince (MID), M Scharenberg, N Newman, (L Ryan [E], Joel Smith)
Mid: S Pendlebury [C], S Coniglio, N Fyfe, D Heppell, D Mundy, B Fiorini, D Myers, S Powell-Pepper, (J Barrett [E], C Maynard (FWD), N O'Kearney (FWD))
Ruck: B Grundy, A Sandilands (J Witts)
Fwd: J Macrae (MID), J Gunston, I Smith (MID) J Billings (MID), R Knight, C McCarthy, (K Lebois, B Eddy)

Remaining Salary: $37,600

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 12:07

    Not big on Mundy after last year, Jambo. Fiorini is a brave call. 280k on the back of two games? You could save a bit of coin there I reckon with a cheaper rook. There's a few forward options like Bolton, NOMCOC v2, Pickett you could grab over McCarthy/Knight types

      Jambo · 24/01/2017 at 12:27

      2016 was a poor year for Mundy, yes.
      the other hand, I can see a rapid improvement in Fremantle this year on the back of a fit Sandilands, Fyfe and the addition of Bradley Hill and Lachie Neale continuing his rise to über elite rank. Mundy will roam as he pleases and collect possies at will.

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 14:33

    Plenty of pods. Love Cogs, not sure about Smith or Billings with both competing with many for lucrative roles (so is Cogs I guess, but what a gun).

    No Danger = perilous indeed

Gags · 24/01/2017 at 11:41

Absolutely love this community! My first year where I haven't done my own supercoach pre-season but thanks to this great group of people I was able to assemble a starting squad. Patch's article on mid pricers has influenced my starting squad massively, persuading me to not take the risk on players who "might become premium one day". I decided to take a punt on proven premiums at a discounted price (Beams, Murphy and Sandilands) with the idea of off-loading them around the byes. And as a point of difference I've decided to go with Tom McDonald as Lekdog's write up on him has got me seriously considering him, key position is the only thing worrying me. Would absolutely love to hear what the community thinks about my (Very rough) side. Cheers!

DEF: Simpson, Laird, Johannisen, McDonald, Scharenberg, Ryan (Stewart, NOMCOC)
MID: Dangerfield, Treloar, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Gore, Bolton, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Hoskin-Elliot, Black, Pickett (Eddy, Smith)

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 11:54

    Looks solid, Gags. Bit of news on Twitter this morning that Murph will be spending time deep forward http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/carlton-cap

      Gags · 24/01/2017 at 14:51

      "Certainly this year I've done a lot of training inside so I'll play a lot inside mid, filter on a wing, and then also go deep forward as well," definitely some good signs here if he's going to play inside but playing deep forward could damage his output. All I'm looking from Murphy is to be consistently scoring 90's and increase in price by the byes. Any other suggestions though?

Wighty · 24/01/2017 at 12:20

Heater, Monty, Adams, and five rookies,,,,Alex Johnson, Ryan, Newman, (Nomcoc, Stewart).

Bont, Rocky, Danger, Watson, Parker, Pendles, SPP, Graham (Freeman, Berry, Myers)

Goldie, Sandi, (Strnadica)

Roughy, Dids, Dahl, Macrae, Shoenmakers, Pickett (Eddy, Cameron)

Shoe a big POD and so cheap if he gets games. Still got 181.4 k so Scharenberg might yet get d5/6….lots of captain loopholes early season.

Wighty · 24/01/2017 at 12:35

Any new on trades in bye rounds ??

abs · 24/01/2017 at 12:38

Hi Jock
i am representing a group called Richmond Tiger Supporters Supercoach Page
we have around 120 members and we are building a community team this year for the first time.
and we are up for a challenge , i was wondering if you had a community team and were up for a challenge aswell 🙂

    abs · 24/01/2017 at 12:52

    we are armed with the jock reynolds magazine (coming soon ) …and we are going to be very dangerous 🙂

Tim Smith · 24/01/2017 at 13:38

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, JJ, McGrath, Scharenberg (L.Ryan, T.Stewart)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Hannebery, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, S.Powell-Pepper (D.Myers, N.Freeman, J.Graham)
RUCKS: Goldy, Sandilands (L.Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Caddy, McCarthy, McCluggage, J.Picket, S.Bolton (T.Smith, B.Eddy)

2k leftover, yes i do know my forward line is weak but i just don't know who to pick this year, so I'm just waiting it out.

hedski · 24/01/2017 at 15:03

ITS OPEN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

hedski · 24/01/2017 at 15:07

First league is open 586828, would love some good competition jump in lads!

    MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 15:27

    Spots filling up fast 🙂

      hedski · 24/01/2017 at 15:37

      Sweet

    Pitch 72 · 24/01/2017 at 15:41

    I'm in, great stuff

      hedski · 24/01/2017 at 15:46

      Cheers Pitch

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 15:44

    I've jumped in hedski

      hedski · 24/01/2017 at 15:47

      On ya Kev, on a side note do you know how to change your teams guernsey can't work it out? Cheers

        Beezneez · 26/01/2017 at 13:22

        On the home page just click on your team's shield in the top left hand corner if showing black.

    Paul · 24/01/2017 at 16:13

    Hi Hedski. Just joined your league.

      hedski · 24/01/2017 at 16:30

      To easy

        Shake n bake · 24/01/2017 at 20:24

        didn't get in ):

          hedski · 24/01/2017 at 20:41

          Sry mate, reckon I'm in Liam McMemes wit you again Shaker 😉

            TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/01/2017 at 21:20

            Missed out too hedski
            What is the code for liam mcmemes? As was in that one last year and wouldn't mind tangling again with shake and bake and crew.

              hedski · 24/01/2017 at 21:24

              539774 trig its posted below

                TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/01/2017 at 21:27

                Ta all in.

hedski · 24/01/2017 at 15:35

OK here's the "VB Dip$omaniacs" ver2.
Will probably have to trim some premos to fit a mid pricer fwd or back long way to go yet.

Rance Laird Burgoyne (Hibberd)
Scharenb Berry Ryan (Stewart)

Danger JPK Treloar (SPP)
Sloane Gray Fyfe (Graham)
Swallow Myers (Brown)

Grundy Stef (Sterndick)

Rooey JJK Dahl (Eddy)
Picket Rioli Bolton (Smith)

I'm not 100% on Rooey and JJK yet might need Ryder in there for backup.
Cheers

    Swans2012 · 24/01/2017 at 16:55

    I like it hedski!, I think all of jjk, buddy, and gold coasts lynch are being underrated. Like most people I normally avoid kpp's but I reckon 2 of the 3 will be top 10 this year, personally I like lynch (he's locked in my team) and buddy over jjk but hey I reckon it's a case of roll the dice.
    Roo I like but don't think I can spend the $$$.
    No gawn worries me if he starts laying out those 150's and you don't have him, not having him is a bad gamble I reckon.
    I like the reduced $$ spend in defense, I wouldn't touch burger but understand the rationale, overall I like it
    Will post mine later if I get a chance, in your league as well bud,

      hedski · 24/01/2017 at 17:18

      Cheers Swans, yeah still early stages, Gawn is causing me headaches.
      Will meet you in the leagues, thanks mate.

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 19:34

    ehst made you go Trelor ahead of Pendlebury?

      hedski · 24/01/2017 at 19:42

      $ and I think he'll explode with a full preseason Derek, finished off the year strong (he was one of my last upgrades last year, took him over Pendles and pocketed bout $90k).
      Keen to take on the Bunnies again this year are u in A graders yet?

        Derek · 24/01/2017 at 21:53

        its between Selwood and Trelor for my M4

          Derek · 24/01/2017 at 21:53

          Yep. In the A Graders league

Pitch 72 · 24/01/2017 at 15:38

139640 feel free to join fellas..

James · 24/01/2017 at 15:46

Are Dusty martin and sam mitchell bad options?

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 15:54

    SMitch averages 117 at Subi over his career. A nice pod as many will be turned off by his age.

    Few ahead of Dusty. No longer a lock with no DPP

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 17:39

    Yes.

    Dusty scores well when Richmond do, but I don't expect Richmond to score well. Will be back to a more fwd role this year, SC score may go down a bit. Good bye tho.

    SMitchell is past his prime, won't be a top mid in SC and won't make cash.

      Derek · 24/01/2017 at 19:51

      People underestimate the effect of all the extra travel for a Perth based player. Vic players moving to Perth struggle to fit in. Sam has family etc, can see him getting a rest or two

Mag · 24/01/2017 at 15:47

762278….get amongst it!!. Top 60 last year so looking for a competitive league!!

    St KFC · 24/01/2017 at 16:45

    On it. Can't wait..

Jambo · 24/01/2017 at 15:49

401154 feel free to join in.

Troppo · 24/01/2017 at 15:59

DEFENDERS
Adams, Johannisen, Pittard, Hurley, Scharenberg, Ryan (T. Steward, B. Long)

MIDFIELDERS
Dangerfield, Rockliff, Sloane, Fyfe, Watson, Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Freeman, Bolton, Graham)

RUCKS
Goldstein, Sandilands (Strnadica)

FORWARDS
Macrae, Caddy, Ryder, Motlop, Bennell, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 17:41

    Heavy in the fwd line! I like the strat since not many rooks with JS there so far. Think Motlop is a spud, would take Heeney as a better speculative pick.

Matt Robison · 24/01/2017 at 16:09

BACKS: K.Simpson, T.Adams, M.Hurley, A.McGrath, M.Scharenberg, L.Ryan BENCH: T.Steward, B.Long
MIDS: Dangerfield, Treloar, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Heppell, D.Swallow, S.P.P, D.Myers BENCH: Freeman, Brown, Graham
RUCKS: Gawn, Grundy BENCH: Strnadica
FWDS: Reiwoldt, Dahlhaus, Gunston, Roughead, A.Black, J.Pickett BENCH: T.SMith, B.Eddy

Remaining Coin: $125,400

Interested in thoughts, balance across each line etc.

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 16:17

    Pretty good this, Matt. Reckon with the coin left over you could invest it in upgrading Adams or Hurley.

    Pickett won't be rushed. Unlikely for round 1

Caz · 24/01/2017 at 16:18

Hey guys first team for the year.
Def. rance johannisen McDonald scharenberg berry Ryan (Stewart long)
Mid. Danger pendles Kennedy treloar Cripps Fyfe Myers freeman (hibberd brown graham)
Rck. Gawn goldy (strnadica)
Fwd. Dahlhaus Macrae heeney Bowes Pickett Rioli (Bolton eddy)
Any thoughts appreciated.

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 17:42

    Cripps has had back surgery, will have very limited pre season, would not start year with him.

      Caz · 24/01/2017 at 23:22

      I did see that, put him in will watch and see how he goes in practice games but is a easy switch to Bont or someone similar.

tenacious · 24/01/2017 at 17:11

Def: Docherty, Shaw, Taylor Adams, McGrath, Scharenberg, Long, Ryan, Stewart
Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Berry, Powell-Pepper, Myers, Pickett, Graham
Ruck: Gawn, Sandilands,Strnadica
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Mccarthy, Mccluggage, Black, Bolton, Eddy

125k left in the bank, rookies will depend on NAB up, if roughie is ready to go round one then he will be in my team and if not maybe heeney? sandilands is also subject to availability to round one! what is the verdict on Mccarthy or even holskin-elliott?

    tenacious · 24/01/2017 at 17:14

    or ryder for heeney/roughead

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 19:56

    Why will Sandi not play round 1? What do you know

    IntheNickofTime · 24/01/2017 at 21:53

    A no for me on McGrath and Luggage (for now), on the advice of Jock. I'd throw Newman (BAC) and W.Rioli (FWD) in instead and save yourself some coin that can be used elsewhere – perhaps moving on from the injury-prone platers in the MIDs?

In the Nick of Time · 24/01/2017 at 17:11

Montagna, Leigh $538,100
Laird, Rory $526,800
Williams, Zac $480,100
Lloyd, Jake (MID) $460,200
Scharenberg, Matthew $164,000
Newman, Nic $123,900
Stewart, Tom $117,300
Ryan, Luke $117,300

Dangerfield, Patrick $716,900
Pendlebury, Scott $645,700
Kennedy, Josh P. $617,100
Sloane, Rory $591,000
Mitchell, Tom $565,600
Berry, Jarrod (DEF) $139,800
Pickett, Jarrod (FWD) $123,900
Myers, David $133,700
Powell-Pepper, Sam $135,300
Bolton, Shai $117,300
Graham, Jack $117,300

Gawn, Max $645,000
Goldstein, Todd $588,400
Strnadica, Luke (FWD) $102,400

Riewoldt, Nick $549,500
Dahlhaus, Luke (MID) $520,700
Macrae, Jack (MID) $511,700
Bowes, Jack (MID) $171,300
Long, Ben (DEF) $117,300
Rioli, Willie $117,300
Smith, Timothy $102,400
Eddy, Brett $102,400

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 17:54

    Solid, and I reckon most would end up with similar team structure if there are enough rookies playing R1. Big if tho! I am planning otherwise and will be pleasantly surprised if wrong.

    UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:22

    like the tom mitchell pick, just on the outside of my team but should be a good pod

Mitch · 24/01/2017 at 17:27

Any thoughts are appreciated on this one, currently got $29,400 left in the bank. Personally I'm not entirely sold on Kolo and Ryder, but I'll see how we go.

Def: Docherty, Laird, Hartlett, K.Kolodjashnij, McGrath, Scharenberg (Newman, Ryan)

Mid: Dangerfield, Treloar, Fyfe, Ross, Beams, McCluggage, Petrevski-Seton, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Berry, Graham)

Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica)

Fwd: Dahlhaus, Ryder, Heeney, Caddy, Ainsworth, Pickett (Balic, Eddy)

    Moustachio · 24/01/2017 at 17:55

    Ross is… pretty left field. Don't like it =)

    IntheNickofTime · 24/01/2017 at 21:49

    Hey mate, looking nice. Got some big names in there but a few names prone to injury in the Mids which could come undone very quickly – Swallow, Freeman, Beams and Myers. Apparently Pickett won't be up for Round 1 either. Personally I have no time for McCarthy, if you have some cash left over look elsewhere – that's just my opinion though.

Jack · 24/01/2017 at 17:29

Docherty,laird,Hibberd
Logue, McGrath, Keefe
(Ryan) (scharenberg)

Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Sloane, Fyfe
Beams, swallow, Mccluggage, powell-pepper
(Myers, Pickett, freeman)

Gawn, Goldstein
(Strandica)

Dalhaus, McRae, caddy
McCarthy, j.thomas, Ainsworth
( mckay, eddy)

Please review it!

    IntheNickofTime · 24/01/2017 at 21:45

    Hey mate, looking nice. Got some big names in there but a few names prone to injury in the Mids which could come undone very quickly – Swallow, Freeman, Beams and Myers. Apparently Pickett won't be up for Round 1 either. Personally I have no time for McCarthy, if you have some cash left over look elsewhere – that's just my opinion though.

Willymack1234 · 24/01/2017 at 17:37

Def: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Mcgrath, Sharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)

Mid: Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Fyfe, Coniglio, Swallow, PP, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Graham)

Ruck: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)

Fwd: Dalh, Caddy, Ryder, Rough, Mccluggage, Black (Pickett, Eddy)

This is my second season so go ahead and pick it apart.

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 22:00

    Pretty good. Not counting Caddy as a keeper yet, so I see 10 starting keepers in your team. Id find another, you'll find the going tough to get a full premium team without burning trades. Otherwise pretty good

    SCgoat · 25/01/2017 at 00:30

    dont know about gaz, gets injuried a lot and getting old, would go with another premo

Swans2012 · 24/01/2017 at 17:53

I've been trying to control myself from getting too excited but now with it open I can't help myself, second post of the year

Picking Rookies is like catching the wind this time of year so fill in the blanks
Defense- Jj, tmac, mcvrigh, Lloyd, 4xrookie
Mid – danger, rocky, treloar, fyfe, beams, gaff, swallow, Myers (rookie x 3)
Ruck- gawndilands (rook)
Fwd- Dahl, Franklin, lynch, knight, McCarthy, Pickett (rookiex2)

Defense may get an upgrade although I'm pretty sold on jj t Mac and mcveigh, may downgrade Lloyd and upgrade one or two of these to big guns.
I think gaff fits the bracket to turn up his game a notch this year. Lynch also, was brilliant last year in a team that was getting smashed, will score better as the team does. Buddy was consistent last year and will be better this year in a more settled forward line (fingers crossed).
Anyway I'm sure it'll look nothing like this in a month but this is where I'm at. Thoughts and or constructive abuse welcome

    hedski · 24/01/2017 at 18:19

    Hey mate backline looks iffy in byes, is McVeigh past it? (Ya know I have Burgoyne ATM so a bit picky?)
    Gaffs a bit suss to but ya never know.
    Ha ha cheers

      Swans2012 · 25/01/2017 at 08:59

      Thanks bud, yeah backbone will be altered I'd imagine just hate paying overs for defenders

        Kev · 25/01/2017 at 09:09

        I think you need to, Swans. The landscape has changed. Last year we were flush for forward options and not much down back. With so many iffy options that's why paying over 500k for a defender wasn't considered the best move. This year it has reversed. Paying over 500k for a forward isn't the smartest use of your $10m

          Swans2012 · 25/01/2017 at 11:23

          Could be right kev, but i think shaw will get the clamps applied, can't get excited about the price of doch or simmo, so really I don't see much value there, especially considering defensive rookies generally score closer to premos than forward rookies. And the 500k forwards are reasonable options still for mine. But I'm getting off topic, chances are I will upgrade a mcveigh or Lloyd to one of the above anyway.

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 20:08

    Hi Swany. I thought McVeigh was a typo. Interesting. Might have to read the magazine article on bias.

    Why Trelor ahead of Pendlebury?

    Gaff isn't a bad bet, would have considered if a bit cheaper.

      Swans2012 · 25/01/2017 at 08:58

      G'day derek! Good luck for the year ahead! I think gaff will stand up and might even win his own pill his year, 95 avg and burn a trade later getting rid of him is a worst case scenario imo,
      I like mcveigh, not saying he's locked in but I'm seriously considering. was just behind the eightball all last year after interrupted preseason, still averaged 89 or so, first time under 93 since 08 including 100+ in 13,14,15, missed 11 or so games since 05, tooth length is increasing but not beyond it, I'll be watching the preseason and considering.
      As for treloar, I think height take the reins from pendle this year although that's another of those gut instinct things.

neil demons delight · 24/01/2017 at 17:54

Hi folks A GRADERS is back 567360 preference to all from last year please quote your name from last year if you changed it Havent heard from shake n bake in this forum yet all welcome cheers

    hedski · 24/01/2017 at 18:21

    I'm in bud, I'm "VB Dip$omaniacs" this year.

      neil demons delight · 24/01/2017 at 18:28

      did you get the right code Hedski IAM TRYING TO scrap a duplicated one any thoughts

        hedski · 24/01/2017 at 18:37

        Yeah got right one, should be able to delete other league

          neil demons delight · 24/01/2017 at 18:49

          how

    Danners · 24/01/2017 at 19:46

    Danners is in, looking forward to it

      Derek · 24/01/2017 at 20:11

      The bunnies are in

    David · 25/01/2017 at 17:35

    Im in neil school holidays is massively busy for myself but don't worry cant wait looking horns. All you guys are great!!

      Shake n bake · 25/01/2017 at 17:38

      Shake n bake (David)

neil demons delight · 24/01/2017 at 18:04

SORRY FOLKS Agraders no. is not correct ignore The correct one is last years 121049thanks NEIL

    hedski · 24/01/2017 at 18:21

    That's the one

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/01/2017 at 21:11

    So this is the real one for the A graders?
    Ive joined both but will jump out of the other one

      neil · 24/01/2017 at 21:50

      deleted league trig silly relos trying to help doubled up .Good to have you on board trig and most of last years welcome.going to be a hard year particularly fwd..Need a mid price to jump out

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/01/2017 at 21:58

        Looking forward to some fierce competition cant wait.
        I have ryder up forward but not sold on him at all hopefully convince me to keep him in the team during JLT series
        guess everyone has the same dilemma may just go light up forward and see who puts up their hand.

    MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 23:13

    Bang bang welcome

Rob · 24/01/2017 at 18:13

Hey guys thoughts on my team.

Currently have 14k left over and would like too see how my team is going.

DEF: Adams, Laird, JJ, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry ( Cox, Ryan)

MID: Danger, Sloane, Bont, Cripps, Fyfe, D Swallow, SPS, Brodie (SPP, Myers, Bolton)

RUCK: Gawn, Ryder ( Strnadica)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Heeney, Bennell, ainsworth, Black ( Pickett, Eddy)

    MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 23:15

    Cripps had surgery, will have limited pre-season, I'd avoid starting him.

neil demons delight · 24/01/2017 at 18:14

DOES ANYONE know how I can scrap a league my son duplicated mine thanks

    Krups · 24/01/2017 at 19:36

    Just leave the league if your the only one currently in it?

tommo · 24/01/2017 at 18:18

how much money should we aim to have in the bank at the start of the season?

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 19:33

    Everyone's a bit different, tommo. Personally I see no point in keeping money in the bank in the early rounds. You want the best team you can and that "war chest" (I hate that term) will build up once you start culling your fattened rooks

    Krups · 24/01/2017 at 19:38

    I go with about $150,000 to $200,000. To help make any corrective trades in the first 2 weeks before prices go up

    Youngster · 25/01/2017 at 12:42

    I always aim to leave enough cash (say $50k) in the kitty to swap rookies before the first round lock outs. Picture a scenario where your $117k rookie doesn't get named and another costing say, $140k is named. With only $5k in the kitty from your starting line up, you can't simply swap them without firstly swapping another player to find the money. This leaves you in a rush to tinker your team before the game begins. This is only relevant for round one where you can make last second rookie swaps.

    Plus, before the prices change in round 3, you may need to make an urgent rookie correction but without the cash in the kitty, you're looking at two trades instead of one. You'll be sick in the guts when you don't have enough cash to make one trade and rid yourself of the cheap useless rookie to bring in the more expensive one whose price is about to go through the roof.

    Leaving yourself a bit in the kitty for rookie swaps and corrective trades has served me well in the past. I consider it to be a must – unless of course you pick the perfect rookies from the outset.

      UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:17

      i reckon your right youngster, id also add that you shouldnt try to aim for a particular amount, if you have a line up you really like and only have 10k left then just go with it, but in saying that i wouldnt want to leave much more than 100k going into round 1

FotherMucker · 24/01/2017 at 18:50

Join 215461 – at least you can boast about beating me !

Dylan · 24/01/2017 at 18:59

Gday community! This is my first year joining Jock and love all the advice and pointers so thankyou (:

Here is my starting team which will definitely be changed..
Defence:
Heater, Tmac, Hibberd, Bob Murphy, scharenberg, EVW, (Ryan,Stewart)

Mid:
Danger, JPK,Sloane, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, SPP, Myers (gore,freeman,graham)

Rucks:
Goldy, rider (strnadica)

FWD:
Dahlhaus, wood, Heeney, roughy, hrovat, Pickett (McKay, eddy)

Yes I am a north fan and am taking a risk but would love some feedback!

Cheers (:

    Paul · 24/01/2017 at 19:04

    Good but risky mate

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 19:29

    I think it Lek who did the write up on Hibbo. Fantastic piece. Give it a read if you haven't already. Looking forward to seeing EVW play, hearing some great things about him.

    The less said about Wood at F2 the better…

    UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:14

    north fan too, love the gutsy wood pick but id say he'd be more of a 2018 supercoach option, also i wouldnt expect hrovat to avered any more than mid 70s so id be switching him out

Liam · 24/01/2017 at 19:16

Hey Community, feel free to join my league – 539774.

    Nifty · 24/01/2017 at 21:15

    Cheers mate, jumped in..

Wighty · 24/01/2017 at 19:18

SC is running…..there is meaning to life again !!!

Jakey · 24/01/2017 at 19:19

What are your thoughts on Robbie Tarrant guys? Good POD? Need a replacement for Hurley, after reading about his hammy don't want to take the risk this year.

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 19:36

    Look elsewhere, Jakey. Wildly inconsistent. You'll be pulling your hair out

      Jakey · 24/01/2017 at 19:41

      Righto thanks mate, any suggestions 455k to spend

        MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 23:18

        Hibberd. Never change to someone that starts with a different letter of the alphabet. Luckily the Bombers have sourced us with an endless supply on this one.

      Jakey · 24/01/2017 at 19:42

      585k my bad

    Keenbutclueless · 24/01/2017 at 19:46

    It's not Hurley with the hammy – it's Hartley

      Northernsoul74 · 24/01/2017 at 20:48

      And Hooker.

    UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:09

    tarrant a good football player

    but that doesnt always mean good supercoach player

Danners · 24/01/2017 at 19:43

Righto guys, probably getting close to my 100th draft already, wouldn't be surprised if my team changes a bit once I read the magazine

As it stands
DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Hurley, Ryan, T.Stewart (Newman, M.Hibberd (NM))
MID: Danger, Pendlebury, Priddis, Sloane, Life, Beams, Swallow, Myers (Mutch, Bolton, Graham)
RUCK: Goldstein, Sandilands (Strandica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Gunston, Caddy, Pickett, T.Lamb, B.Long (Eddy, H.McKay)
$1,100 in the bank

A few PODs in there and trying to avoid midpricers where possible.
Thoughts?

    neil · 24/01/2017 at 21:04

    hurley hammy

    Keenbutclueless · 24/01/2017 at 21:35

    All 4 keepers in your backline share a round 13 bye. Plus 3 of your 5 mid keepers. Might be too many to trade your way out of trouble pre byes.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/01/2017 at 21:41

      Good eye keen

      Danners · 25/01/2017 at 12:48

      Thanks Keen, seems like I'm spending too much time on Supercoach BBL

MitchH · 24/01/2017 at 19:53

First crack at the squad for this season, early thoughts and improvements? Opted to go against danger to save $$

DEF: Docherty, Adams, Laird, RMurphy, Scharenberg, Stewart (Berry, Ryan)

MID: JPK, Trealor, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Ainsworth, Myers (SPP, Freeman, Graham)

RUC: Gawn, Ryder (Ratugolea)

FWD: Macrae, Caddy, Heeney, Elliot, Roughead, CBrown (Parfitt, Eddy)

$9,900 Remaining

    Eric_the_Red · 24/01/2017 at 20:55

    I think you should find a way to fit Danger in. Caddy, Heeney and Elliot all in the FWD line gives we the hiccups. Good luck though!

      IntheNickofTime · 24/01/2017 at 21:39

      Agreed, downgrade one of these to Bowes, and find a way to get Danger in.

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 22:07

    Why have you gone McCrea over Dahlhaus?

    MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 23:20

    Going against Danger saves on points more than on dollars :p

Josh · 24/01/2017 at 20:06

DEF: JJ, vlastuin, hibberd
M Williams, McGrath, berry ( Ryan, Collins )

MID: danger, Bont, shuey, fyfe
Heppel, beams, swallow, p pepper
( Myers, freeman, Dawson)

RUCK: Jacobs, Boyd ( strnadica )

FWD: k Stevens, d smith, heeney
Ryder,Elliott, mc gluggage (picket, eddy )

Still have $231,100 in the bank would love some help

RUK

    MitchH · 24/01/2017 at 20:10

    Upgrade Vlaustin and Williams for Laird and Caddy imo

      MitchH · 24/01/2017 at 20:16

      Adams I mean, not Caddy.

    IntheNickofTime · 24/01/2017 at 21:37

    You might be with a little too much risk there in your MIDs – Swallow, Beams, Myers and Freeman – definitely use some of that left over cash and have a bit of a think. Could easily upgrade Swallow with that cash to someone like Caddy or Mundy.

    MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 23:22

    Williams massive risky POD
    Shuey unlikely to hit top mid status given age
    Heppell unlikely given year off
    Big Sauce is done I think
    Boyd…. avoid (ha, rhyme)
    Get Dahl in the forward line.
    Probably more value in a rookie than Elliott, if we have enough available.

    Eckie · 06/02/2017 at 15:45

    I would look at upgrading the ruck combo for starters to a set and forget theme

Eric_the_Red · 24/01/2017 at 20:53

Docherty, Shaw, Lloyd, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan // Stewart, Long

Danger, Kennedy, Sloane, Gray, Fyfe, Berry, SPP, Myers // Gore, Bolton, Graham

Gawn, Mumford // Strnadicakjhfkudbfksrgfs

Dahl, Buddy, Lynch, Motlop, Bowes, Pickett // Smith, Eddy

$100 in the bank.

Don't be shy. Fire away….

    IntheNickofTime · 24/01/2017 at 21:31

    I'm not one to have so much money left over, better off using it to upgrade anyone who you have doubts over, or slightly more popular rookies. I'm looking at Motlop in this scenario.

Tyson · 24/01/2017 at 21:13

Docherty, Shaw, Rance, Scharenberg, Berry, Ryan //Stewart, Mitch Hibbered

Danger,Pendles,JPK,Gray,Fyfe,W Brodie,Powell pepper,Myers// C.Moore,J Graham,Allison

Gawn,S Martin // Strdnica blah blah

Dalhaus, Macrea, Gunston, Heeney, Durdin, K Kirby // B eddy S Bolton
31 k left
Any advice would be greatly appreciated cheers

    Tyson · 05/02/2017 at 10:26

    Make sure your on field rookies play (Brodie, Kirby and durdin

Jack · 24/01/2017 at 21:26

My first crack at a team this year.

DEF: H.Shaw, R.Tarrant, J.Weitering, A.McGrath, G.Logue, C.Hampton (J.Berry, B.Long)

MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JP Kennedy, Treloar, Fyfe, D.Beams, D.Swallow, W.Setterfield (O'Meara – probably not playing until Round 4 so will probably have to change, S.Powell-Pepper, N.Freeman

RUCK: Gawn, Sandilands (M.Eagles)

FWD: Dahlhaus, J.Roughead (Hawthorn), D.Rioli, H.McCluggage, C.McCarthy, W.Rioli (B.Jarman, T.Smith)

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 22:10

    Weitering an interesting pick. Any reasons why you would like to share with the community?

Adam · 24/01/2017 at 21:34

Thoughts on current team and structure:
Def: K Simpson, R Laird, H Hartlett, R Murphy, C Hampton, M Scharenberg, (N Newman, E Vicker-Wills)
Mids: P Dangerfield, S Pendlebury, J Kennedy, J Selwood, N Fyfe, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, ( S Powell-Pepper, N Freeman, J Graham)
Rucks: T Goldstein, A Sandilands, (L Strandica)
Fwds: N Riewoldt, L Dahlhaus, J Roughead, C McCarthy, H McCluggage, R Knight, ( J Pickett, B Eddy)

    Kev · 24/01/2017 at 21:45

    Reckon you're tempting fate having both Scooter and Swallow. Pick one, downgrade the other, use the cash to upgrade McCarthy

    Derek · 24/01/2017 at 22:15

    Not a bad team. Overdose of midpricers but all are "cheap" midpricers. might actually score well because not relying on infield rookies much.

Keenbutclueless · 24/01/2017 at 21:41

Nothing too much to shoot here. Might be a problem having two rookie listed players on your forward bench. I am not a Motlop fan, so would consider Heeney or Beams and upgrade one of those rookies.

    Keenbutclueless · 24/01/2017 at 22:10

    Sorry, this is for Eric

TMarauder · 24/01/2017 at 21:47

Gimme your opinions guys

DEF: L.Montagna, T Adams, R Laird, A Mcgrath, J Scrimshaw, L Ryan, (T Stewart, B Long)

MID: P Dangerfield, J Kennedy, R Gray, M Bontempelli, D Heppell, D Beams, J Berry, D Myers, (S Petrevski-Seton, J Graham, S Powel-Pepper)

RUCK: M Gawn, A Sandilands, (L Strandica)

FWD: L Dalhaus, J Caddy, I Heeney, P Ryder, O Florent, J Bowes, (B Eddy, J Pickett)

    Bill · 25/01/2017 at 12:44

    I like it. My only concern is the number of high price rookies and how they might affect your cash generation. Esp. in the mid, I don't think you'd need to bat so deep you have SPS and SPP on the pine. Downgrade all of them to <130k rooks and you could probably affor an extra premo somewhere

    Tyson · 05/02/2017 at 10:33

    Watch injuries with scrimshaw and Sandilands

Tomsteam · 24/01/2017 at 22:17

How does everyone feel on Ryder, Bennell and Heeney?

    MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 23:24

    Lock, unlikely to play R1, and undecided but currently in.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 25/01/2017 at 11:28

    Unsure but not many options up fwd, when plays 2 games without breaking down lock in, gun in.the making just look what he did in the finals when moved into midfield.

    Bill · 25/01/2017 at 12:41

    Ryder: should have him unless you're going Gawn/Goldy in the ruck
    Bennell: leave him alone, not sure if he even likes footy
    Heeney: currently in, but not 100% sure

TBoneMason · 24/01/2017 at 22:36

First time playing SC, would love some opinions on my current team, a lot will change with how the NAB Cup works out so open for any sort of opinions whatsoever!

Backline:
T.Adams, R.Laird, M.Hibbered, R.Murphy, C.Marchbank, M.Scharenberg BENCH: J.Berry, L,Ryan

Midfield:
P.Dangerfield, N.Fyfe, T.Mitchell, J.Lewis, D.Heppell, B.Ainsworth, S.Powell-Pepper, D.Myers BENCH: J.Bowes, N.Freeman, B.Jarman

Rucks:
M.Gawn, T.Boyd BENCH: L.Stmadica

Forwards:
J.Macrae, T.Lynch(GC), I.Heeney, P.Ryder, H.Bennell, J.Pickett BENCH: O.Florent, B.Eddy

$30,700 remaining in the bank

    Derek · 25/01/2017 at 11:52

    When you bring a premium into your team, you need to ask, is this player likely to be in the top 8 players in his position?

    Lewis, Heppell, Mitchell, Hibberd ?

MoustachioSC · 24/01/2017 at 23:35

DEF: Howe, TMcD, ZWilliams, Hartlett, Hibberd, Hurley (Newman, Stewart)
MID: Fyfe, Libba, Watson, Beams, Murphy, SSelwood, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Barrett, Graham)
RUC: Stef, Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: Wingard, Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, Roughy, Cloke (Smith, Eddy)

I'm full premo already lads, suffice to say the $50k is in the bag.

PS $34k left over

    Ben · 25/01/2017 at 00:01

    you will get murdered with this team

    SCgoat · 25/01/2017 at 00:10

    to many mid price players

      Moustachio · 25/01/2017 at 07:10

      Whoooosh

    hedski · 25/01/2017 at 09:49

    Ha gold

    Derek · 25/01/2017 at 11:53

    You are missing Zac Dawson

    Billy Higgins · 25/01/2017 at 12:37

    Sweet Jesus. I'd love to see you run with this team and see how you go!

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 25/01/2017 at 17:03

    Straight out of the mid pricer handbook 🙂

      Dont Blush Baby · 25/01/2017 at 21:06

      seriously think he's having a lend of everyone here,

        hedski · 25/01/2017 at 21:46

        Hence the "Whoosh"

SCgoat · 24/01/2017 at 23:55

hey guys
got 2 spots left in mid and tossing up between these 4
shiel – could he step up to full premo
sloane – dont know with sloane
hanerbery – worried about his injury during grand final
bont – was it just a good year for him last year (could get tagged more this season)
This is my team so far, any suggestions? do i ahve to many mid pricers
DEF: docherty, T Adams, Hibberd, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (stewart, Long)
Mid: 2 players from above, Danger, Fyfe, Heppel, beams, Swallow. SPP (Myers, Bolton, Grahman
Ruck: Todd, Martain (Strnadica
FWD: Dahl, Caddy, Macrae, McCluggage, Black, Will Hoskin Elliot (Pickett, Eddy)
Have 1,251,400mil than minus the 2 players
thanks guys

    Kev · 25/01/2017 at 09:29

    I'd go Hanners and Sloane mate. If you're worried about Hannebery he should play pre season games, have a look at him then

      SCgoat · 25/01/2017 at 09:41

      Thanks mate, definitely will have a look at him throughout pre season. What do you think of the rest of my team? Do I have to many mid priced players?

        Bill · 25/01/2017 at 12:36

        I'd say you need to cut back on the high-priced rookies (McGrath, McBags, WHE, Scharenberg) as there should be enough options this year that we don't need them. That would allow you to upgrade a couple of your mid pricers to premos.
        As for your remaining spots, I'd go Sloane and Bont, though if you made the changes I suggested above you could probably afford a safe option such as Pendles or JPK.

          SCgoat · 25/01/2017 at 15:19

          Thanks Bill, definitely will consider that, see which rookies emerge in pre season

    Big H · 02/02/2017 at 17:31

    id look at a JPK or Parker over hanerbery as hanerbery is getting pushed out to a wing position instead of in the guts it will be alot easier for Parker and JPK to find contested ball which are more points

The_Black_Mamba · 25/01/2017 at 01:19

Supercoach 2017 starts for many today, good luck to you all.
Here is my team how it stands

DEF: Simpson, Shaw, Adams, Hartlett, Sharanberger, Berry// Vicker-willis, Ryan

MID: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, JPK, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper, Myers,Freeman/// Gore, Ahern, Graham

RUCK: Gawn, Goldstien// StangleDicker

Forward: Dalhaus, Macrae, Ryder or Bennel depending on round 1, Black, Pickett, Long// Rioli, Eddy

    Billy Higgins · 25/01/2017 at 12:28

    I like it, looks safe. Bennell very unlikely to start Round 1 from all reports, maybe try Rough at a similar price or if youre feeling brave Ellis-Yolmen?
    Hartlett's an interesting one, not been talked about enough imo. Not ballsy enough myself but he could be a great call.
    I don't reckon you need Ryder with a Gawn/Goldy ruck combo. I'd either downgrade one of the rucks or turn Ryder into another premo with a higher ceiling.

Luskin Star · 25/01/2017 at 01:26

Putting this up and going to bed. That way i dont have to read the criticism until the morning.
DEF Adams, McDonald, Hurley, mcgrath, scharenberg, newman, ryan, nomcoc
MID danger, pendles, zach, treloar, rocky, cripps, fyfe, beams, myers, williams, graham
Ruck Sandi, Giles, rookie with most sunday games
FWd caddy, miller, bennell, mcbags, pickett, nomcoc2, eddy,smith

    Captain Awesome · 25/01/2017 at 06:22

    I like the strong midfield, lots of keepers and try to make a bit of coin on the other lines. That way we get to find out who the guns will be fwd and back. I don't know how good Cripps will start after back issues and I believe Dahl will be a top fwd this year playing mainly in the guts. That's my thoughts anyway. Your team is fairly similar to mine so I like it

    Moustachio · 25/01/2017 at 07:13

    Would not go so deep mid as to put Myers on bench. His scores should be on the field imo. Cripps could be cut as pre season back surgery I believe.

    Derek · 25/01/2017 at 12:02

    I like what you are doing, thought about this strategy as well but could go wrong big time

Leeds17 · 25/01/2017 at 08:23

My first attempt, pretty happy with it, lets see what you guys think

Docherty, Shaw, T Adams, Laird (Hibbard, Long, Ryan, Stewart)

Dangerfield, Hannebery, Treloar, Fyfe, Heppell (Berry, Pepper-Powell, Myers, Pickett, Freeman, Graham)

Gawn, Sandilards (Lynch)

Dahlhaus, Deledio, Heeney, Ryder (Bowes, Parfitt, Smith, Eddy)

There are a lot mid-pricers calling out to me, Especially in the Fwd line but will try my best to go guns, rookies and genuine value (Heppell, Sandilands)

Have tried to select guys in Def that I think can push a 100 average, Mids who I think can go 110+ (Heppell 105+) & Fwds who can 100+, I was pretty set on Bont but the change to the 3rd man up rule has spooked me a little, Gray was selected in there too at first but swapped him out for Heppell who just seems well under-priced.

Hartlett, JJ & Hurley in defense, Pendles, Gray, Bont, Parker & Cripps in midfield even Gaz still temps me, Lynch, Mcrae, Caddy & Menzel up Fwd the guys kinda next in line/watch list, & then some speculative guys like Higgins, Thurlow, Wood, K Kolo,

Let me know what the community thinks! cheers!

    Peter Piper · 25/01/2017 at 09:53

    Terrible team..

    Stinky tuna · 25/01/2017 at 09:58

    Not looking good

    tuna taster · 25/01/2017 at 09:59

    it would be a great team if you started over again

      Leeds17 · 25/01/2017 at 13:58

      The leading teams style feedback is appreciated cheers

    Derek · 25/01/2017 at 14:23

    Don't mind it. 14 premiums if you count Heeney and Ryder.

    Ask yourself, are Heeney and Ryder really really top 8 keeper premiums? I don't know, but will after 3 or 4 rounds so I'm passing and going with an extra keeper and rookie instead.

      Leeds17 · 25/01/2017 at 14:32

      As No1 ruck I can't see Ryder going less than 95 which looks top 6 at this stage though there are always surprises, Heeney is a worry no doubt it certainly wouldn't be the first time I picked a future SC god 1-2 season early.
      Though I'm keen on Macrae he's 90k more than Ryder and 80K more than Heeney, outside of him & Dahl find it very hard to be confident on who will be the top 8 FWDs

    Keenbutclueless · 25/01/2017 at 17:47

    Check your round 13 bye. 8 of your keepers out

      Leeds17 · 25/01/2017 at 19:18

      Top advice, cheers

GAWNski · 25/01/2017 at 09:52

Hey community, first year following Jock and love how everyone works together and shares advice!

Here is my starting team which I gaurentee will be changed 1000 times before round 1 lockout but hey we all need to start somewhere

DEFENCE: Doc, Laird, Williams, Bob Murphy, Scharenberg, EDV (Berry, Ryan)

MIDS: Pendles, JPK, Sloane, Fyfe, Lewis, Heppell, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Graham)

RUCKS: Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Hrovat, Hosky, Galluci
(Pickett,Eddy)

$10k in the kitty

Not sure on Sloane, Lewis, Hosky or Zac Williams so some feedback would be greatly appreciated.. I also need to try and fit roughy in the forward line.

Cheers!

    Bill · 25/01/2017 at 12:20

    I have Sloane. Has a few soft home games early on and he loves the adelaide oval so hopefully he can go large a couple of times. Z Will is also a good pick, likely to breakout I think.
    Not sure about Lewis, he has never averaged 110+ so won't be a keeper and won't generate cash either. WHE could be good value, but if he was as good as everyone keeps saying he is I think GWS would have made some sort of effort to keep him

      GAWNski · 25/01/2017 at 17:07

      Cheers for the feedback Bill, I think I'll stick with Sloane, but not sure on the rest just yet.. overall how does the team sound?

      Cheers

Pep de Bollox · 25/01/2017 at 10:21

Docherty Rance Laird Mcdonald Scharenberg Berry (Ryan Stewart)

Danger Pendles JPK Coniglio Swallow Fiorini SPP (Myers Gore Bolton)

Gawn Sandy (Strnadica)

Kennedy Roughead Elliot Boyd Mcluggage Pickett (Smith Eddy)

Thoughts peeps, a few points of difference, still not that sure about fiorini and forward line is light or heavy depending how they fire.

    IntheNickofTime · 25/01/2017 at 14:00

    I think you're asking for headaches by getting a GWS Mid in there (Coniglio), too much points stealing from each with such a deep midfield. That being said, He was one of my first picked when Supercoach Gold opened for this season. I'd be keeping an eye on whether Boyd is worth it and you'd not thinking back on his massive presence during the finals. Otherwise just be careful with premium rookies and perhaps use the money elsewhere, or pocket it.

Seeker · 25/01/2017 at 10:48

My first official team, without looking at byes etc…

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Vince, Ryan*, T Stewart* (Logue*, Vickers-Willis*)

MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JPK, Rockliff, Fyfe, J Gallacci*, Powell-Pepper*, D Myers* (Berry*, Pickett*, Graham*)

Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica*)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Black*, B Long*, W Rioli* (Parfitt*, J Williams*)

* are all the rookies and are subject to change

My main issues with this team are
1) whether Vince at D4 is one too many 'keepers' in Def and I could go a bit skinner there and add an approx $550k MID at M6

2) Not sure about Macrae at F2 but also not sure about Caddy (midpricer priced), TJ Lynch or other KPFs

3) Current FWD structure is affectively 2 & 1/2 keepers (Dahl & Macrae with Roughie the 1/2) but with a lack of obvious Keepers in the Forward lines this year, with a decent range of FWD and FWD/MID rookie options, as well, I wonder if it is the year to go really skinner up forward and look to make the most upgrade trades there as forwards present themselves throughout the year…

Would love some comments on the team and my issues. Thanks

    GAWNski · 25/01/2017 at 12:00

    Not sure on Rocky, but overall great team! (:

    Jib Jib · 25/01/2017 at 12:13

    Fwd structure is a massive headache this year, few elite players stand out so whatever you do there is going to be an element of risk. On the flip side there are a lot solid options down back and as always a shit tonne of choice in the mids. At this stage I'm planning to go very skinny fwd (2 1/2 keepers 5 rookies) and bit heavier down back 4 keepers 4 rookies and load up in the mids 6 keepers 5 rookies. Just hoping there is going to be enough rookie options to allow this balance come rd 1.

    Bill · 25/01/2017 at 12:15

    Macrae is safe as houses at F2, much better option than Caddy imo.
    With Vince, wait and see where the rookies emerge. It looks as though there'll be plenty of good ones down back so you could maybe squeeze in an extra mid premo instead of vince.
    Most people are taking your approach in the forward line, seems the safest option at this stage.
    Overall a good side. I have Rocky too, can score like few others when his head is screwed on so hopefully Fagan can get him on track

    IntheNickofTime · 25/01/2017 at 13:57

    Overall looking quite nice, I would get someone like T Lynch in if you're in doubt with one of your FWDs, otherwise pretty well balanced. I won't be going with Rocky and getting T Mitchell instead.

      Seeker · 25/01/2017 at 14:15

      Rocky is there because if he is 100% fit he is a beast.
      However between now and Rd 1 he could turn into Robbie Gray, Coniglio, TMitchell, Sloane, Treloar etc

Rick Grimes · 25/01/2017 at 11:52

Docherty, Rance, Laird, Scharenerg, Berry, Ryan, Hibberd, Stewart
Danger, Kennedy, Treloar, Rocky, Priddis, Sloane, P-Pepper, Myers, Graham, Pickett, Ahern
Martin, Sandi, Sraindicka
Kennedy, Macrae, Caddy, Ryder, Eddy, Black, Rioli, Smith

*All rookies subject to change.
** Entire team subject to change.

    Big G · 25/01/2017 at 13:03

    I was doing research on the most consistent premiums over the past 5 years and Priddis is always in the mix. How will he go without Nic Nat?

    HARV · 02/02/2017 at 17:26

    i like the premo/ POD mid

Bill · 25/01/2017 at 12:30

I rate this. A real POD team while still taking minimal risks. Very well done!
If it was me I'd get at least one safe ruckman (Gawn or Goldy), maybe lose Caddy?

    Whooshka · 26/01/2017 at 10:41

    Very similar to mine (so I like it) but can't go into this season without Max or Goldy at R1

Mitchell · 25/01/2017 at 12:47

My team at the moment but will change when I get there jock magizine
Def. Docherty, T.Adams, Laird, Johanaseen, McGrath, Sharenberg, ( Ryan, Stewart )
Mids. Dangerfield, Pendles, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, Powel-Pepper, Myers, ( Freeman, Bolton, Graham )
Rucks. Gawn, Sandi ( Strnadica )
For. Dalhouse, Macrae, Heeney, Roughead, McCluggage, Picket, ( Smith, Eddy )

Jono · 25/01/2017 at 12:51

Doc, Rance, Laird, Sharenberg, Hibberd (nth), Long, Stewart, Ryan.

Danger, Hanners, Treloar, Rocky, Fyfe, Titch, Powell Pepper, Myers, Barrett, Freeman, Graham.

Mumford, Sandi, Strnadica.

Roo, Dahl, McRae, Roughy, Pickett, Eddy, Rioli (wce), Eddy.

Thought peeps? $44k change.

Bill · 25/01/2017 at 12:55

The Be Sharps v1.0
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Berry, Hibberd, Newman (Ryan, NOMCOC)
Danger, DePendles, Rocky, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, SPP, Myers (Wigg, Lyons, Graham)
Goldy, Ryder (Strongdick)
Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Rough, Brown, Ridley (Rioli, Eddy)
$6k in the bank.
Main concern is thin defence but reasonably confident enough rookies will reveal themselves to make it viable.
I'm also wavering slightly on Heeney, not sure about his mid time, but don't like anyone else in his price range enough at this stage.
Thoughts?

Wazza · 25/01/2017 at 13:00

My 1st Edition of my Team
Def. Doherty, Rance, Hurley, Weitering, A.McGrath,Sharenberg
Mid. Danger, Z,Merrett, Bont, Cripps, Fyfe, O,Meara, Gallucci, Myers
Ruck. Sandi, English,
Fwds. T.Lynch, Betts, Daniher, J.Elliott, Hipwood, McCluggage

    Derek · 25/01/2017 at 23:46

    JOM probably won't play until round 4.

Big G · 25/01/2017 at 13:18

My first crack:

D: Docherty, Heater (considering Laird), Rance, schraenberg, berry, ryan, (stewart, long)
M: Danger, Pendels, JPK, Gray, Fyfe, Beams, SPP, Myers, (graham, Bolton, freeman)
R: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
F: Dahl, Mcrae, Caddy, Roughhead, Pickett, black (eddy, smith). 23 k left

Redgumwon · 25/01/2017 at 13:54

Hi guys & girls this is my first draft and no doubt there will be plenty of changes. Looking forward to some feed back from you all

Shaw, Laird, Lloyd, Hunt, Scharenberg, Hampton : Ryan, Stewart

Danger, GAJ, Treloar, Rocky, Fyfe, D. Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Myers : Barrett, Brown, Graham

Big Maxie, Martin : Straindicka

Dahlahaus, McCrae. Ryder, Hoskin- Elliott, McCluggage, White : Williams, Eddy

Rookies are always open to change.
Hunt from Melbourne had a great year last year and I think he could be given more license to run this year out of defence. A punt but we'll know more after the preseason games
Cash in bank bugger all

    Derek · 25/01/2017 at 23:44

    thsnks Red, I'll put Hunt on my watch list, next to Redden. Don't even know his price

      Redgumwon · 26/01/2017 at 08:06

      No problem Derek. Hunt is $324,000

      I'm going to have look at giving Lloyd & Ryder the flick and try and fit in Docherty and maybe Caddy into my forward line now.

      I added Redden to the watch list after Higgo's comments. I'll be adding Rioli now after what you said about his pre season and more midfield time. The only worry I have is Rioli has burnt me in the past with his inkuries

      I'll let you know when the Draft game is up and running if you're still interested

Riggsy · 25/01/2017 at 14:03

This one is completely hypothetical based on Jocks absurd mention of a Sandi-Giles ruck combo, but I'm interested in the communities opinion.

B: Rance, Laird, Pittard, T.McDonald,Scharenberg, Ryan, NOMCOC, Stewart

M: Pendlebury, Jelwood, JPK, Sloane, Fyfe, Murphy, Swallow, SPP, Myers, Freeman, Graham

R: Sandi, Giles, Stainedpenis

F: Dahl, Macrae, Gunston, Caddy, Pickett, Bolton, Smith, Eddy

$16,900 remaining

    UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 00:20

    sandi giles to me just screams of headaches

Willymack1234 · 25/01/2017 at 14:11

What are your thoughts on Nick Riewoldt at f1 fellas? is he getting to old or will he continue last seasons form, or should i just go for another forward.

    Derek · 25/01/2017 at 14:33

    Jock is the man to answer this

    Nick can see the end of the road, but I also has a young bunch of blokes around him who can feel they are building a team to have a crack. Nick will muster up everything he has for one last serious challenge before his time is over. Classic MAMOTH CURVE.

    He is in my team

    Danners · 26/01/2017 at 11:51

    Should be one of the top forwards again but I'd be watching his preseason

Derek · 25/01/2017 at 14:13

V2 sees the death of the midpricers. Heeney, Ryder, Beams and Wingard all dumped from the Bunnies. Goldy, Pendlebury, The Bont and JJ all sadly didn't make the second cut. A total of 11 on field changes and it's only been 2 weeks.

I've "paid the price" and selected the most expensive on each line to start with.

I've gone guns n rookies and wanted 13, injury free, midfield playing, tried and tested, pick themselves Premiums.

Sandi is too good value to leave out and the rest are rookie types. I do like Knights and McGrath as expensive rookies.

Bunnies V2

Docherty, Laird, McGrath, Scharngberg, Berry, Ryan (Collins, Stewart)

Dangerfield, JPK, Selwood, Trelor, Priddis, Fyfe, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Graham, Ronke)

Gawn, Sandilands (Cameron)

Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, MaCrae, Cyril Rioli, Knight, Bolton (WRioli, Eddy)

I've gone light in defence because there is better point scoring available on other lines and defence rookies look ok this year. Besides, as a former full forward myself, I wouldn't even feed them 😉

    Big G · 25/01/2017 at 15:01

    Cyril an interesting call?

      Derek · 25/01/2017 at 21:04

      I do love the guy, never had him in my team for obvious reasons, hammys!

      This is his first pre season without worrying about hammy injuries. Reported on hawks website that he has been one of the most improved this year.

      Hawks have a hole to fill in guts. I don't think he will get a lot more midfield but he definitely won't get less. Imagine if he did spend more time in the guts, his PB is 21 disposals – think about that for a moment.

      Roughie and Vickery will give Ye hawks more marking up forward, Cyril will be at his best it hits the ground.

      I also love the changes to deliberate rushed behinds. Defenders are more likely to keep ball in play, Cyril will be licking his lips.

      Finally, hawks have a pretty good draw. Besides Bombers first up, they have 6 at MCG and 2 in Tassie of their first 9 (other is Gold Coast).

      I can't wait to read the magazine on my cognitive bias.

    neil · 25/01/2017 at 17:36

    wearing 23 derek

      Shake n bake · 25/01/2017 at 17:47

      Ive only gone premiums & rookies at the moment thou im thinkin with the attention Cripps might get and Murphys price looks very good. best pre season for years! Good luck Derek ur ar a star.

        Derek · 25/01/2017 at 20:45

        Murphy could be the Libs of last year, even at the end of the year you are unsure if he was a good or not. Will depend on Carlton winning games.

      Derek · 25/01/2017 at 20:42

      I did kick 1-9 for the Leeton Redlegs one day.

    Keenbutclueless · 25/01/2017 at 18:01

    Great job Derek. Managed to have proven premos but have a different structure. Congrats. 5 first year players in Defence is always a risk. If I remember correctly you are normally a bit more conservative in Defence. You can always do a corrective trade from a premo forward to a premo defender if it goes pear-shaped. Whilst I am sceptical about Roo, the one premo I would argue against would be Docherty. Only one year at that level, just got the feeling that we will be able to buy him cheaper during the season

      Derek · 25/01/2017 at 20:39

      Last year I went deep in defence because I didn't think there were any rookies, turned out to be more than enough and I was stuck with Brodie and Rich (if there was ever an argument against mid price players there it is).

      I'm hoping Long might play early that will give me a fwd/def swing in case I need to correct.

      I don't see much value in defence this year. Compare Shaw to Priddis, ADAMS to Dahlhaus, JJ to Cyril or Rance to Riewoldt, I'm happy with my choices. More chance to pick up the premium defenders cheaper than the other lines.

      Docherty might not be there after I have read magazine stickers on Bias. I didn't have him last year!

    Leeds17 · 26/01/2017 at 07:48

    Like this team Derek as it challenges my own thought process, Patches article does seem to be ringing very loud in a lot of coach heads.

      Leeds17 · 26/01/2017 at 07:53

      Thoughts on guys like Hartlett, Bennell, Murphy, Heppell ect guys with semi proven scoring but injury/role issues?

        One Touch Wonder · 26/01/2017 at 13:00

        Heppell was in my very first team. I don't think he can come back after a year out of the game and perform. I think his price is fair at best. Same with all the boys who have missed a year of footy, its tough playing AFL footy. I can't see him being top 10 midfielders.

        the other 3 never gave them any thought, maybe Hartlett because he ticks the box that he is a genuine midfielder with defence status.

        I've had my fair share of mid pricers in defence over the years, ibbotson, brodie, rich, KK, that guy from saints that everyone had, johnson, birchell, suckling,

          Leeds17 · 26/01/2017 at 16:39

          Missing a year of footy isn't going to have that much of an effect IMO, their professions kept themselves fit and if anything will come back fresher than most, when you think guys in their first season can average 80 odd and guys coming back from Knee recos and broken legs can push a 90 average. Soft tissues injury are the worry of course.

    Derek · 27/01/2017 at 20:41

    Tinkering with team

    Out Riewoldt and Knight
    In ADAMS and Swallow

    I think 3 premium defenders and 3 forwards is better

      Derek · 27/01/2017 at 23:44

      Bunnies V2.1

      Docherty, Laird, Adams, McGrath, Scharngberg, Hibberd (Ryan Stewart)

      Dangerfield, JPK, Selwood, Trelor, Priddis, Fyfe, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Graham, Ronke)

      Gawn, Sandilands (SDica)

      Dahlhaus, MaCrae, Cyril Rioli, Pickett, Long, Bolton (WRioli, Eddy)

        Derek · 27/01/2017 at 23:45

        It all hinges on the rookies

        Scouser · 29/01/2017 at 12:09

        Hiya Derek, nice to see a bit of andifferent team and your thoughts on Cyril have got the ol brain thinking something different so very much appreciated mate.

        Would like to understand your plan with Sandi if he goes down though with no automatic cover for him and an awkward price to trade if he goes down early. Are you thinking a straight DG to Witts if playing or a 2 trade burn (ouch!) Or…something else entirely? Would love to jear your thoughts on that.

          Derek · 29/01/2017 at 23:57

          I'm expecting him to play every week, but if he injured, will depend on what round and how long out.

          If early and just a week of two, will prob get Ryder or Boyd in forward line, depends on who is playing well.

          If early and out for a long period I might get Griffin or Clark as they will become #1 ruck

          If injury and has already made some cash, straight upgrade to Grundy or Goldy.

          Seriously though, I see him playing all games up to the byes

CFC123 · 25/01/2017 at 15:51

Whipped this up just then for my first draft of 2017

DEF: Doc, Shaw, JJ, Mcgrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Stewart, Mcniece)

MID: Danger, Hanners, Treloar, Gray, Fyfe, Heppell, SPS, Myers (SPP, Freeman, Graham)

RUC: Gawn, Ryder (Strndica)

FWD: Dahl, Mcrae, Heeney, Mccluggage, Pickett, Bolton (Eddy, Smith)

Bugger all remaining, rookies subject to change.
All advice welcomed! What do you think?

    hedski · 25/01/2017 at 20:05

    Pretty solid c3p0

Rhino · 25/01/2017 at 17:58

Hi All – first real cut of the team. Haven't gone through the podcasts yet, will binge through them this weekend. I'm staying clear of mid priced mids (I think Heppell is more a fallen premo) but taking all my big risks in Defence.

Henderson has been hampered by injury in recent seasons but was available to play all but 2 possible games throughout (mostly in the SANFL). I expect he will slot in nicely in the Hawthorn setup – others might know more but I see him as filling some of Jordan Lewis' role at stoppages.

The other big gamble is KK. I'm banking on him hitting the form most thought he would in 2016 but it turns out he couldn't (literally) give a shit for most of the season with a partially blocked bowel. A change in diet and he is reported to be back into the swing of things.

Def
Simpson, Shaw, Lloyd, R Henderson, KK, Ryan (Stewart, Long)

Mid
Danger, Rocky, Fyfe, Titch, Heppel, PP, Myers, Bolton (Freeman, Graham, Grewar)

Ruck
Goody, Martin (Strndca)

Fwd
Franklin, T Greene, Caddy, Rough, Black, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

    UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 00:18

    cant trust kk, not after selecting him last year. putting feelings aside i can only see him reaching his 2015 form as max ceiling, which puts a step below premo. may worth noting that he is ranked as the 74th defensive pick this year, behind guys like jack hombsch. in saying that if it does pay off its a shark move and a half

    titch a very left field pick, cant see him being a good option personally

Pools · 25/01/2017 at 18:35

Thoughts please,

Doc, Simpson, Pittard, Francis, McGrath, Scharenberg, Stewart, Ryan

Danger, Pendleton, JPK, Bont, Coniglio, Fyfe, Beams, Myers, SPP, freeman,graham

Ryder, Giles, English

Dahl, Heeney, McCarthy, McCluggage, W Rioli, Pickett, Long, Strnadica

155k left. Unsure on the forward line. No Gawn in ruck because so many midfielders for demons stealing points from him when the game is fast in the first 6 rounds. Eagles ruck glut offers Giles a huge opportunity. I gave thoughts that Ryder plays better as first ruck too.

Was impressed with Francis at the end of last year. Thinking that he will break out.

    neil · 25/01/2017 at 21:39

    demon mids wont steel knock outs pay for what you get

    UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 00:12

    francis very risky at his price for mine, personally id switch him for a 177-123k rookie and using the left over cash to upgrade mccarthy.
    i think youll be giving up too many with that ruck setup in not going with at least one proven gun, perhaps downgrade beams to a swallow or a high priced rookie and look at upgrading giles

    vinnymac · 04/02/2017 at 15:17

    Liking the Bont and Coniglio selections

Mayniac · 25/01/2017 at 19:09

Hey community,

Stumbled across you guys last year – two words

BLOODY AWSOME!

Feedback?

DEF: Laird, Hodge, Adams, Murphy, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan, Stewart

MID: Danger, Hanners, Treloar, Sloane, Fyfe, Heppell, Swallow, SPP, Myers, Hibberd, Graham

RUCK: Goldie, Sandi

FWD: Dahl, Heeney, Roughie, Boyd, Mccluggage, Pickett, Smith, Eddie

    ethan · 25/01/2017 at 20:05

    Looking good but I would stay away form tboyd and maybe downgrade murphy/Hodge to someone like Mcgrath and use the cash to upgrade Roughie

    hedski · 25/01/2017 at 20:08

    Hodge Adams Murphy in def is tempting fate I reckon, rest is sweet.

      Derek · 25/01/2017 at 21:09

      Hodge will miss too many games this year. Murphy was a 90 average at his best, won't get near that.

        hedski · 25/01/2017 at 21:48

        Yep and Adams legs will snap

    Keenbutclueless · 25/01/2017 at 20:08

    Round 13
    Laird Hodge Adams McGrath Sharenburg Ryan
    Treloar Sloane Fyfe Heppell Myers
    Sandi
    Roughie
    All out

Dont Blush Baby · 25/01/2017 at 21:30

Am I missing something , not many teams with the Bont ? Soz been living in a cave lately

    hedski · 25/01/2017 at 21:50

    Bye round upgrade for me maybe Blush see how he's doin.

    Northernsoul74 · 25/01/2017 at 21:50

    He was popular in early discussions but people seem to be out off by the impact of no third man up.

      Shake n bake · 29/01/2017 at 17:00

      Got him in mine atm. Will only get better again from last year has a very high ceiling my early tip for brownlow!

St KFC · 26/01/2017 at 04:24

Community. Your thoughts on the first iteration of my team would be much appreciated

DEF: T. Adams, Laird, Houli, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Ryan, Stewart, Long

MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Fyfe, T. Mitchell, Treloar, D. Beams, Myers, SPP, Bolton, Graham, Gore

RUCK: Gawn, Sandiland, Strandica

FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, Roughead, Black, J. Pickett, Cameron, Rioli

90k leftover for first rounds correction

    UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 00:06

    not much negative to pick apart from this, houli intersting, could be a steal if he regains and slightly improves 2015 form

      UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 00:07

      but in saying that he has historically been a touch below premo

min0008 · 26/01/2017 at 07:18

First official team since SC opened:

Def: Shaw, Laird, Adams, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Long, Stewart)
Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Powell-pepper, Myers (Freeman, Bolton, Graham)
Ruc: Gawn, Sandilands (Cameron)
Fwd: Josh J Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Black (Pickett, Eddy)

$113k left in the bank

    Dont Blush Baby · 26/01/2017 at 08:33

    I don't mind the JJK inclusion,have been thinking of putting him in myself with the of lack of guns in the forwards,good luck min

Pep de Bollox · 26/01/2017 at 10:28

Docherty Rance Laird Mcdonald Mcgrath Scharenberg (Ryan Stewart)

Danger Pendles JPK Treloar Mitchell Swallow Galucci SPP (Myers Berry Parfitt)

Gawn Sandy (Strnadica)

Kennedy Roughead Elliot Boyd Mcluggage Brown (Smith Eddy)

500th revamp coniglio gone and rookies shook up a bit

Andrew · 26/01/2017 at 12:04

Def: Adams, Laird, Johannison, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)

Mid: Danger, Pendles, Bont, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Freeman, Graham)

Ruck: Gawn, Sandi (Strandica)

Fwd: Dahl, Heeney, Ryder, Roughead, Mccluggage, Pickett (Eddy, Bolton)
$82,000 left in bank

Team is definitely going to change. If there are good rookies in the coming months ill downgrade McGrath and McCluggage to create some more money to upgrade a defender. lack of forward options and roughys captaincy means he will hopefully play a high amount of games this season.

Ross · 26/01/2017 at 12:47

Greetings to Jock, the rest of his team and to the whole of the Community.
Here is my first shot at coming up with a team so early. I have gone for the usual guns and rookies and I have thrown in some good priced premiums.

Docherty, Shaw, Adams, Murphy Logue and Berry. (Ryan & Stewart)
Danger, Treloar, Fyfe, Heppel, Beams, D,Swallow, McGrath and P-Pepper. (McLuggage, Foote and Graham)
Martin, Sandilands. (Strnadica)
Dalhaus, Ryder, Heeney, Bennell, Hoskin-Elliot, Bowes (Bolton and Eddy)

As with everyone else, I gladly seek your comments and possible changes as everything is open to change.
I hope that everyone has a great Supercoach year.

    Scouser · 29/01/2017 at 12:29

    Looks pretty solid Ross. Some points to consider for me would be is Adams there as a keeper as unlikely to play the full season based on his history so possible upgrade to Laird/similar.

    Other key point would be running with both Mcgrath and Suitcase in the mids as should be plenty of cheaper rookie options available amd coin saved would allow you to upgrade Heppell (like him but can't see him being top 10 this year) and eother Adams/Murphy in defence or Bennell in the fwd line although its slim pickings there.

    Rucks are interesting and I'd be watching Martin closely in the JLT as could be the dark horse this year especially with 3rd man up changes.

    Torn on Bennell; could end up being the #1 forward but equally likely to end up as #1 man wanted by the Perth constabluary! Watchlist for me currently and needs to prove a lot before round 1.

    Solid start mate and good luck!

ethan · 26/01/2017 at 13:07

Community thoughts on Hamish Harlett as a d3. Averaged 92, 91, 90, 97, 101, 77 in the last 6 seasons and is listed at just 423k

    Redgumwon · 26/01/2017 at 13:31

    If he can regain his form he is worth a look at. I'll be watching him in the preseason to see just what his role is this year. Hamish wasn't alone last year in the players that got picked for Port and them went missing on game day

    Scouser · 29/01/2017 at 12:31

    Watch his role in JLT ethan, if he goes back through the mids could be an option but I'm not banking on it as his tank not big enough I reckon.

    UncleSwaggy · 30/01/2017 at 12:39

    I'm not sold on him personally as a top 6-8 defender come years end. if you believe he can get back to that 101 average then by all means, i think pittard would be a better option as far as port defenders go, bloke is the model of consistency

Zieball · 26/01/2017 at 14:27

2017, the year of the Risk!

Defenders: Laird, TMac*, Hurley, Murphy, Berry, EVW (Ryan,Stewart)

Midfielders: Pendles, Rocky, Fyfe, Smitchell, B crouch*, Jwatson, Beams, Myers (SPP, Freeman, Graham)

Ruck: Ryder, Sandi (Strnadica)

Fwds: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Caddy, Roughy, Hrovat, Pickett (McKay, eddy)

* not sure on

Would love some feedback (:

    Scouser · 29/01/2017 at 12:45

    Wow Zieball some risk in there indeed 🙂

    Not sure on your thinking with Sam Mitchell can't see him being top 10. Crouch, Watson and Beams 1 risk too many for me but I do see the attraction in all of them, I'd just think about what's your plan if 2 of them go down? Especially with Rocky in there also.

    No cover for Sandi is also a big risk, not keen on moving Paddy to the fwd line and slotting in a true R1 (Max, Goldy, Martin, Grundy)?

    Hrovat an interesting pick mate but I like it, a certain POD for sure.

    Good luck with it mate, pretty solid but I'd consider minimising the overall risk as can't see them all paying off.

    UncleSwaggy · 30/01/2017 at 12:36

    hrovat interesting, im a north man myself and i think he'll be great for the team but not so sure on him as a sc option. i reckon scousers hit the nail on the head, especially the point on ryder if you do go with sandi at R2

Dan · 26/01/2017 at 14:54

Hey peeps – need some help. Thanks Jock and community for the awesome resource.
3rd year in a row I have lost SC GF by less than 10 points, and am looking to shake the handbag tag this year!
Usual strategy that served me pretty well is to load up mids in as many posi's as possible, steer clear of mid pricers (except the odd certain cash cow) and besides early corrective trades, sit tight until mid year (if you can maintain W/L ratio).

So, team first draft is:

Def: Dockerty, Shaw, Adams, Laird, Scharenberg, McInnes (DPP) (Ryan & Stewart)
Mids: Danger, Hannebery, Neale, Treloar, Coniglio, Sam PP, Myers, Gore, (Hibberd – Def DPP, Brown – Fwd DPP, Jarman – Fwd DPP)
Ruck: Big Maxxy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Fwds: Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCarthy, Black, Pickett (Long, Eddy)

Tried to build in a bit of flexibility with DPP, which there isn't a lot of this year. Am I 1 premo short in mids, Fwd line is a bit vulnerable in Rnd 12 bye, but hoping to cash in some rookies by that stage. Bar Sandi, 50/50 rookie premo mix.

Thanks for the help!

    UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 00:01

    love the neale pick, really want him in my squad but cant squeeze him in at the moment
    whole teams real solid but id get mccarthy out. played 21 career games for a low 50s averaged and a year out of the game. all the analytics go against him, better off going a cheaper rookie

    Scouser · 29/01/2017 at 13:10

    Hey Dan, before looking at your team I'm really interested in your thinking of keeping to the same strategy that hasn't yet won you a GF in 3 years? Not thinking a slight change may be in order? May take you 2 steps back to go 1 step forward at first but perhaps a strategy shake-up is in order? Still not sure? Use the mighty Higgonator to draft a few different strategic sides and see if 1 of them grabs you.

    Anyhow on the team selections; Adams for mine too injury prone to be a keeper which is what your after for those $$ at D3 so I'd look to something different there but an ok option. Shaggedmybird unseen and unproven outsode of the magpies rehab group in over 2 years, I'd be watching closely in JLT and if fitness proved to you run with him as he sure has talent but if not I'd jump on another rookie.

    The mids look a nice blend of guns and rookies although I'm not convinced by Coniglio, traded him in last year post byes with an eye on him as a POD fpr finals and he proved roller-coaster like, was able to loophole him out of my 22 in the GF which was a blessing and I haven't seen anything different this year to change my mind. Understand he might breakout but you can always jump on him if thats the case but I'd be steering him clear of a starting berth at this stage.

    Rucks/fwds: Sandi with no backup such as Ryder could really hurt if he goes down, esp if early and no rookies/Witts to jump to I'd re-consider your structure if keen on him. Not keen on Mcarthy also, questionable mentality and not proven at sc level has me looking at other rookie options and potential coin saving also.

    Good luck mate and would be keen to hear your thoughts on a different/modofoed strategy and team selection.

      Dan · 29/01/2017 at 13:50

      Thanks UncleSwaggy and Scouser for your thoughts – all valid, and since posting have changed team several times.
      Am all over the Higginator as well, and have a folder so far with 7 different teams 🙂

      In terms of strategy and thinking, always learning – this year is a bit different with lack of good DPP mid/forward scoring options (Dusty sprints to mind). Last year managed to lose a GF getting a score in high 2500's (still dark on that) so am comfortable with the fact the footy gods were just looking the other way at the time. Like the 2008 GF – sometimes it is just not your day!

      Here's my current team as it stands now, after loads of tinkering, and taking on board McCarthy, and Ruck comments.

      Def: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Mcgrath – Mid DPP, Scharenberg, Ryan (Long – Fwd DPP, Stewart)
      Mid: Danger, Pendles, Neale, Treloar, Coniglio, Sam PP, Myers, Gore (Hibberd – Def DPP, Brown – Fwd DPP, Jarman – Fwd DPP)
      Ruck: Maxxy and Goldy – figured Sandy would break, so rejigged team may swap goldy to martin, and go Boyd to Roughy.
      Fwd: Rooey, JJK, Dahl, Boyd – DPP Ruck, Uebergang – Def DPP, Pickett – Mid DPP, (Smith, Eddy).

      Unsure of Boyd, and as stated might end up going Roughy and Martin, instead of Goldy and Boyd, but memories of him ragdolling and grabbing everything in his area in the GF makes me think a small punt is worth a risk at this stage – was BOG in GF for me, so know he has it in him.

      Caddy is a beast, and might break my no midpricers rule and put him in forward-line – Rooey will give his all, but nor sure he can carry the saints forward line like he did last year. Coniglio, I agree, had him all year last year – I only have $9k in kitty, and don't like the other options.

      Rookies are in as much for flexibility as anything, as we get closer will change when we get a better idea in NAB cup on who's likely to be named. But as it stands Byes look good, Trading Freedom is good, and Rooks vs Guns is good.

      Thanks for the feedback so far!

        UncleSwaggy · 30/01/2017 at 12:34

        the rooey jjk combo will be very unique in the early going and could pay off greatly. im with you on boyd, im sure he'll break out as a footballer but as a supercoach option not to sure. the neale treloar combo id imagine will be unique too and will pay off

        looking the goods

Danielle · 26/01/2017 at 15:00

SIMPSON SHAW ADAMS MCGRATH RYAN LONG (COLLINS STEWART)

DANGER, PENDLES, HANNEBERY, FYFE, HEPPELL, BEAMS, MYERS, POWELL-PEPPER (BERRY, FREEMAN, GRAHAM)

GAWN. SANDILANDS (STRANDICA)

DAHLHAUS, HEENEY BENNELL, ROUGHHEAD, CARLISLE, PICKETT (RIOLI EDDY)

Very new to this caper and am glad i found this site a few weeks ago…..very helpful!!…..anyhoo, what do the community think of one of my first effort?….all feedback, criticism, laughter and ridicule welcome.

    Danielle · 26/01/2017 at 19:23

    boo-hoo, I must have a boring team, no comments good, bad or indifferent.

      Mickyb · 26/01/2017 at 21:07

      Let me try ☺
      How much $$you have in the bank?
      I know 95% of coachs have sandi as R2 but im not sold -injury prone and 35ish. (Depending on your left over coin u may needa downgrade Carlisle to McCluggage and upgrade sandi to one of the big name rucks – goldy, mommy, martin, Grundy

    Scouser · 29/01/2017 at 13:24

    Hiya Danielle amd welcome to the community. If your new to this stick with us and you'll get plenty of guidance. I'm a pom and have found Jock Higgo and the gang invaluable to my learnings and rise up the rankings over the last 5 years.

    Ok my first thoughts on your team are that you're very thin up front and I'd be nervous having sandi with no backup also. So I'd consider running with Ryder in the fwd line as backup to the big man if your keen on him. I've also got question marks over Bennell, Roughy and Carlisle. I'd look to upgrade one of them and downgrade another to minimise the risk.

    Not sure on either adams or mcgrath in defence either and i'd personally look to upgrade adams and downgrade mcgrath at this stage.

    Good luck and welcome again to the finest supercoach community in the land 🙂 I'd also look to get the mag, was a game-changer when it came out 2 years ago and by all accounts will be again this year.

Sam Stone · 26/01/2017 at 16:24

No doubt this team sucks and will change about 78 times before rd.1 but here goes anyway.

DEF: S.Docherty, T.Adams, M.Hibberd, J.Carlisle, C.Marchbank, A.McGrath (L.Ryan, T.Stewart)

MID: P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, D.Heppell, D.Beams, M.Murphy, D.Swallow, J.Berry, S.Powell-Pepper (D.Myers, J.Pickett, J.Graham)

RUCK: M.Gawn, P.Ryder (N.Vardy)

FOR: N.Reiwoldt, J.Macrae, J.Dunkley, J.Lamb, B.Ainsworth, J.Thomas, D.Cameron, B.Eddy

Tear it apart guys

    UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:55

    hibberd and carlise are traps imo, id downgrade one and upgrade the other, id also swap marchbank for a rookie, very pricey for someone who hasnt peformed in the past so theres risk on not much cash generation from him

    cant endorse the dunkley pick, better off going roughy or bennel around that price same for jed lamb. considerer switching one of those to a rookie and upgrading the other to a dahlhaus or caddy type ( or another higher priced forward you like)

      Sam Stone · 30/01/2017 at 00:43

      Thanks for your advice on Marchbank. I see what your saying about Dunkley and Lamb, but hey're an emotional pick i used to play footy with both of them and Lamb is always around my club when he's not required for AFL. Same with Vardy.

        UncleSwaggy · 30/01/2017 at 12:29

        if your like me the up untill the last few years and playing for league only and dont give a stuff about overall rank id say pick the players you like. makes the experience more fun and enjoyable imo. always better to have a loved player have an off night rather than someone who you hate in your squad

Stevey G · 26/01/2017 at 16:37

Probably made some very crappy choices w/ rookies… okay the whole team most likely is garbage but here it is

DEF: S.Docherty, H.Shaw, R,Laird, A.McGrat, L.Keefe, M.Scharenberg (L.Ryan, Z.Sproule)

MID: Danger, De-Pendlebury, JPK, J.Selwood, M.Priddis, D.Swallow, B.Fiorini, D.Myers (J.Berry, SPP, C.Brown)

RUCK: S.Martin A.Sandilands (L.Strndica)

FWD: J.Macrea, I.Heeney, P.Ryder, J.Roughead. W.Hoskin-Elliott, H.McCluggage (C.Maynard, B.Eddy)

You lads will more than likely tear me a new one for my shocking choices over the whole team but while you're doing that can you please give me some advice or tips on how I can improve, thanks.

    Pools · 26/01/2017 at 19:49

    Would consider downgrading Fiorini and Hoskins Elliot to low priced rookies and upgrade Keefee to Hartlett or better

      Stevey G · 26/01/2017 at 20:36

      You reckon Fiorini -> J.Graham/S.Boloton and Hoskin-Elliott -> J.Pickett would be suitable?

      Stevey G · 26/01/2017 at 20:38

      Probably thinking Bolton because DPP?

        Pools · 26/01/2017 at 21:22

        It's too early to tell which rookies are right, but you are generally better off with fewer mid priced players

      UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:50

      i do like fiorini as a footballer but history shows us late season flash in the pans dont back it up the next season, pools has pretty much nailed it on the head as far as suggestions for improvement. very solid team otherwise

Mickyb · 26/01/2017 at 20:41

Fine young gentlemen and gentlewomen,

I really need some help with my team, especially with my fowards:

Def: Heater, Doc, Monty, Adams, Sharenberg, Ryan (long, steward)
Mid: Danger, Pendles, Ward, Fyfe, Beams, Broadie, Berry, Meyers, (Bowes, Powell-Pepper, Freeman)
Rucks: Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica)
Fwd: Macrae, Caddy, Heeney, McCluggage, Pickett, Brown (collingwood) (rioli, eddy)

I have 61.9k in the bank. Im tossing between Caddy and Isaac Smith. Thoughts would be great. Thankyou all.

    Dont Blush Baby · 26/01/2017 at 22:21

    Who's Broadie ? I believe your 1 Gun in the Mids short, maybe Monty can Hartlett to free up 100k cash, not sold on Ward , my personal like is T.Mitchell at M5 – IMO ,good luck

      Mickyb · 27/01/2017 at 08:03

      Brodie was one of GC's top 10 picks.

    Derek · 27/01/2017 at 23:15

    If you can find cash to turn Beams into a premium

      Mickyb · 28/01/2017 at 20:09

      Isnt the assumption that beams will be an eventual premium

Westy · 26/01/2017 at 22:00

This is after reading Gaveday's Bargain Hunt – version 3
D – Shaw, Vince, Tuohy, R Murphy, Scharenberg, Vickers-Williams (Ryan, Stewart)
M – Dangerfield, Kennedy, Neale, Treloar, Beams, M Murphy, D Swallow, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Freeman, Bolton)
R – Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
F – Kennedy, Macrae, Ryder, Roughead, Pickett, Long (Rioli, Eddy)

    Dont Blush Baby · 26/01/2017 at 22:24

    Like the Kennedy pick Westy, dunno about Murphy,Touhy & Vince in the backline , my IMO mate, cheers

      Westy · 26/01/2017 at 23:04

      Thanks DBB. Which Kennedy? I'm still tossing up the other 3. There's enough for 2 higher premos and a rook (Keefe) there.

        Dont Blush Baby · 28/01/2017 at 21:53

        JJK in the fwds mate, POD not many team have him atm

Kevdog · 27/01/2017 at 08:45

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Scharenberg, Berry, Ryan (Stewart,Long)
MID: Danger, JPK, Treloar, Titchell, Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Barrett, Freeman, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWDS: N.Riewoldt, Macrae, Heeney, J.Roughead, McCluggage, W.Rioli (T.Smith , Eddy)

58k left. Would really appreciate the feedback. Thanks 🙂

    Whooshka · 27/01/2017 at 11:49

    Really like it kevdog, I'd perhaps swap Roo for Dahlhaus and get Mcgrath into your backline

Goldy · 27/01/2017 at 12:16

DEF: Shaw, Boyd, Johannisen, McGrath, Ryan, Long – BNCH: Sharenberg, Stewart
MID: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Fyfe, Selwood, Beams, Swallow, Myer – BENCH: SPP, Freeman, Bolton
RUCK: Goldy, Sandi – BENCH: Strnadica
FWD: Dalhaus, Caddy, Ryder, McCarthy, McCluggage, Pickett – BENCH: Smith,Eddy

Not convinced on McCarthy can see him being shut out of games particularly if freo are struggling which I think will happen. McGrath maybe a little over priced for a rookie?

Any feedback would be great

    Derek · 27/01/2017 at 23:12

    Maybe look at Knight instead

Tom · 27/01/2017 at 16:03

First shot at a team this year. Feedback would be appreciated

Def: T.Adams, R.Laird, J.Johannisen, A.McGrath, M.Scharenberg, L.Ryan (T.Stewart, B.Long)

Mid: P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, D.Hannebery, R.Gray, N.Fyfe, D.Beams, D.Swallow, D.Myers (M.Hibberd, J.Graham, B.Jarman)

Ruc: M.Gawn, A.Sandilands (L.Strnadica)

Fwd: L.Dahlhaus, I.Heeney, H.Bennell, J.Roughead, H.McCluggage, B.Ainsworth (T.Smith, B.Eddy)

    Krups · 27/01/2017 at 18:57

    Gdat Tommo. My thoughts are if you have Sandi at R2 then you need Ryder in the FWD line for backup? Nice different picks in Hanners and Gray.

      Derek · 27/01/2017 at 23:11

      I expect Sandi to play every week

      Liam · 30/01/2017 at 22:02

      Agree with Derek. If you pick him it's because you think he will play and score well.

#YTB · 27/01/2017 at 20:31

Thoughts on Jamie Elliot at 291k could be a steal if he stays fit

    Danners · 28/01/2017 at 21:33

    He is fairly cheap, could make a bit of cash early but only score as well as some rookies. Watch preseason though

Joshy Boz · 28/01/2017 at 11:01

First of many drafts of my team. All rookies subject to change based on form and selection. I'd like to keep the pricing structure as is:

DEF: Shaw, Laird, J.Smith, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Morgan, Ryan)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Coniglio, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, SPP (Ahern, Scheer, Graham)
R: Goldy, Sandi (Strndica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, Roughy, Elliot, Pickett (Long, Eddy)

My main concerns are not having a Sydney MID but I love treloar as a pies fan. Other issues is Josh smith at D3 however he is a cult favourite of mine, and played well as a rebounding DEF at the the end of 2016.

Also not sold on Ryder however if I go with Sandi I need a backup. Other option is to downgrade Ryder to a rookie and go Sandi > Gawn/Grundy.

    Johno · 28/01/2017 at 12:47

    I'd highly recommend going Treloar/Coniglio -> JPK as he is only owned in 10.6% of teams and since 2012 he has averaged over 100 with 120.2 ('12), 105.4 ('13), 113.9 ('14), 110.2 ('15) and 113.4 last year. Very reliable with massive SC relevance

      UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:42

      agreed JPK is consitency personified where i could picture cogs sharing points with the stacked gws midfield

      sometimes we got to put our feelings aside, id say smith wont reach a level of keeper status, if you can find some money to shed elsewhere id try to upgrade him

Jojo · 28/01/2017 at 11:35

Hi guys I really appreciate all your feedback
Shaw, Montagna, Adams, McGrath, Ryan, Stewart, long
Danger, Pendles, hanners, Sloane, Fyfe, beams, SPP, Myers, Pickett, freeman, graham
Goldy, sandi, strndica
Dauhlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, lobb, mcluhgage, Bolton, smith, eddy

    Toby · 28/01/2017 at 12:41

    Lobb is a dud, only scores well when he doesnt ruck and goes forward which isnt very often. (I speak from experience, he burnt me badly last year)

      UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:37

      agree with that, better off snagging a low price rookie and using the money else where
      for example lobb for w.rioli freeing up almost 300k and you could probably swapt mcgrath for a z.williams type player or mcluggage for a caddy

Tommo · 28/01/2017 at 12:39

Alright guys here is my team as it sits, would really appreciate any feedback you can give 🙂

DEF: S.Docherty, H.Shaw, R,Laird, H.Hartlett, A.McGrath, M.Scharenberg (J.Berry, L.Ryan)

MID: Danger, De-Pendlebury, JPK, J.Selwood, M.Priddis, D.Swallow, SPP, D.Myers (C.Brown, S.Bolton, B.Jarman)

RUCK: S.Martin A.Sandilands (L.Strndica)

FWD: J.Macrea, I.Heeney, P.Ryder, J.Roughead, H.McCluggage, J.Pickett (T.Smith, B.Eddy)

    UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:33

    forward line appears a bit thin up top on paper but i wouldnt worry about that, i cant see many forwards skyrocketing to an unreachable price and leaving us regretting not starting with them

    very solid

      Tommo · 29/01/2017 at 16:25

      I was thinking of going Priddis -> Fyfe? That will free up some extra cash but I get to stay with (what I think is) a premium mid. Thoughts on that?

        UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 16:55

        yeah i like that decision, priddis is one of those guys that always seems to fall to a low 500k price tag midseason so he should be an upgrade target at some point

          Tommo · 30/01/2017 at 10:22

          My thoughts exactly, thanks for your help man 🙂

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 00:48

    Very solid line up. Interesting going Macrae over Dahlhaus?
    Great team.

      Tommo · 30/01/2017 at 10:32

      I just think that Macrae is gonna have a massive year although if Dahl scores reasonably better than him in the first few rounds I will consider swapping him. If not he can just be an upgrade target for McCluggage/Pickett

Spears · 28/01/2017 at 15:43

After a few goes came up with this for now with 131k still in the bank pending pre-season if have to get a more expensive rookie or up grade what could seem a weakness. Have started with Pendles last 4 seasons and not once regretted it. Had Treloar from the start last year with limited pre-season and don't see a reason for him to disappoint, went for a bit of value this time but they have to convince me still.__Def: Adams, Hodge, Hartlett_Hibberd, Scharamberg or Keefe, Ryan, Stewart, Long__Mid: Pendlebury, Treloar, Fyfe, S.Mitchell, Heppell, Beams, S.P.P., Myers, Hibberd, Freeman, Graham.__Ruck: Grundy, Martin, Strnadica__Forward: Kennedy, Dahlhouse, Lynch, Ryder, Picket, Balic, Smith, Eddy.

2Commando · 28/01/2017 at 18:25

1st posting of team:

DEF: Shaw, Rance, Adams, Hartlett, Laird, McGrath

MID: GAJ, Fyfe, JPK, Gray, McCluggage, Bowes, Myers, SPP

RUC: Ryder, Sandilands

FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Caddy, Bennell, Roughy, Ainsworth

Different stretegy to most

    Dont Blush Baby · 28/01/2017 at 21:57

    How much cash do you left over ? heaps I suspect ?

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 00:46

    Geeez, different structure for sure. Not sure if it will pay off as you'll lose too many points in the mid.. have you selected the top 8-10 forward/defenders? if not, get ready for sideways trading! Easy enough to pick the ultra premiums in the mid, harder on fwd/def.

    Good luck!

Ddog · 28/01/2017 at 18:47

Different feel this season.
Me so far: DOC, Simpson, Murphy, Keeffe,c Scharenburg, Long, Ryan, Stewart.
Danger, Hannas, Fyfe, TMitchell, PHanley, Beams, Swallow, Myers, PowPep, Ahern, Graham.
Gawn,Sandy,English.
McCrae,Ryder,Bennell,Roughy,Black,Picket,Smith,Eddy. $350k in bank.
Thoughts?

Elmeano · 28/01/2017 at 19:35

Decided to give this AFL fantasy a go last year and had a blast. A few weeks ago I discovered this community and haven't stopped laughing since. Podcasts are great and can't wait until the Mega guide arrives soon.

First crack at a team …

Montagna , Adams , Laird , A Mcgrath , Scharenberg , Berry , Ryan , T Stewart
Danger , Pendles , Treloar , Fyfe , Heppell , Swallow , D Beams , SPP , Myers , Bolton , Graham
Martin, Sandi, Sraindica
Dahlhaus , Caddy , Ryder , Hoskin-Elliot , A Black , Pickett , Smith , Eddy

League Code : 180303 if anyone interested .

Love ya work JOCK

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 00:44

    Once you start mate, you can never go back! Welcome to the community.

    Great first draft, don't mind the selection of Montagna as D1,.. hope you're planning on waiting for Shaw/Simpson/Doch to drop.. not sure if Laird has been sold to me yet, think there's better and cheaper options.

    I like the first 4 selections but don't rate Heppell/Beams/Swallow.. first two won't be top 10 mids and Beams will play less than 17 games for the season. Swallow a good stepping stone but you'll have mids for <$150k that will have the same scoring potential IMO.

    Martin a great POD R1.. still potential on missing out on Gawn's mammoth scores though. Prefer going Gawn/Martin R1/R2

    Forward line is good, if Lobbe plays R1 though I would advise not selecting Ryder.

UncleSwaggy · 28/01/2017 at 23:31

version 84 of my team here
Def: Doco T.adams Z.williams berry ryan stewart (hibberd[norf] long)

Mid: danger pendles jpk crippa fyfe brodie myres (spp bolton graham)

ruck: goldy grundy (strnadica)

Fwd: dahl caddy heeny ainworth galucci pickett (rioli eddy)

cripps is dependant on how much preseason action he sees
all rookies subject to change (higher priced ones in particular)
36k in the bank

    UncleSwaggy · 29/01/2017 at 18:15

    also missed bont in the guts

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 00:39

    Good structure mate! I'm looking at employing the same.. not sure if Cripps is ready to go ultra-premium with his pre-season but time will tell.
    I think you might need one more premo in the forward line,.. what happens if Caddy/Heeney flop?

      UncleSwaggy · 30/01/2017 at 12:26

      personally i rate cripps right on par with the bont but that back injury concerns me, may halt his progress

      if one of those too flop i guess the emergency trade would be to a roughy/bennel type type. possibly might switch caddy to mccrea but i see them as having similar production this year

Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 00:37

Version 3 of my team has seen me fall off the midpricers (Tuohy, Beams and Roughy),.. I prefer the look without the mid pricers at the moment and will they actually be top 10 mids? I doubt it.

DEF:
Simpson, Adams, Williams, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Stewart, Berry)

MID:
Gaz, JPK, Jelwood, Treloar, Dusty, Fyfe, Brodie, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Withdern, Graham)

RUCK:
Gawn, Sandi (Strnicda)

FWD:
JJK, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Boyd, Pickett, Bolton (Long, Eddy)

Main selection is not having Danger in at the moment… peaked price at $700k+ and allows me to 14 potential keepers and allowing me to pick off Shaw/Docherty/Danger when they all drop.

Thoughts??

    Steven · 30/01/2017 at 10:48

    I like the choice of not including danger as he must surely drop to $625-675ish. Another good choice on leaving Shaw out as he usually has a slow start to the year and drops in the first few rounds. Not as sold on Docherty, would probably have him in instead of Simpson only because, lets face it, he's a jet. Very surprised about no Pendles… they dont call him DePendlebury for nothing 😉 Also the inclusion of Gazza is different as he has been wearing the Orange Cap of Doom during training eg No contact at all. Other than that very solid team alround.

      Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 11:02

      Pendles has been in my team but than some how Treloar has managed to take his place, think he'll end up starting this year.

      I guess if I'm chipping out for one ultra-premium defender… may as well be Docherty.

      I know about the orange cap of Doom but simply put, he's first 5 round average is always between 125-135,.. if he plays R1 I can't see him averaging anything below 110 those first few rounds, regardless of how injured he may be.

      Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 11:02

      Cheers for the feedback!

Patric · 30/01/2017 at 02:04

B: Simpson, Shaw, Johannisen, Gibson, Murphy, Long (Stewart, Ryan)

M: Parker, Zorko, Martin, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Graham, SPP (Meyers, Freeman, Gore)

R: Gawn, Giles (Strnadica)

F: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Heeney, McCluggage, Black, Bolton (W Rioli, Eddy)

Thoughts?

    Sean · 30/01/2017 at 10:55

    No Pendles and Danger is surprising, I understand waiting until Danger drops but they dont call him DePendlebury for nothing aye bro 😉 Also have a look at JPK as he has averaged over 100 for the past 5 seasons so he is just another Mr Consistency. Apart from that, pretty good team

    TheGreatBozza · 30/01/2017 at 12:54

    I like the difference in the team. Defenders generally don't have dramatic price rises and falls so I don't mind the continuity of having a deep backline. I have always personally gone thin down back on the basis of mids having greater scoring potential. Your mids are a good point of difference. I really like the Dusty pick, he was putting up premo mid numbers last year. Good luck

TheGreatBozza · 30/01/2017 at 12:51

The Bozzas V1

DEF: Doch, Adams, Williams, Scharenberg, Hampton, Berry (Morgan, Ryan)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Bont, Coniglio, Fyfe, Brodie, SPP (Myers, Ahern, Graham)
R: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Lynch, Roughead, Elliot, Picket, Long (Smith, Eddy)

All rookies are subject to change, but I'd love everyone's thoughts on the structure. My thoughts are:

1. Sandi without cover is a big gamble, but it could pay off. Only other two rucks I'd consider are Grundy or Goldy but it would be sacrificing Coniglio to a Beams/Murhpy/Swallow or going Z.Williams to a mid price defender.
2. I like the look of Heeney however I want to see how he goes in the pre season matches, might have to restructure.
3. For the past few years I have gone light on in the defense to varying degrees of success. Last year it burnt me, however the year prior it turned out to be a good move leading to a top 1000 finish. What are peoples thoughts with running a two premo backline to fund the rest towards another Premo FWD & Ruck? The FWDs this year do not seem set in stone so I think there is room to gamble there

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 22:26

    I've considered "the big gamble" as well, but it's not just Sandi.. what happens if Gawn gets rested late in the season? If you trade Sandi to Goldy and he gets rested for a week? what do you do? cop the doughnut? Need a DPP swing. I'm not sold on Ryder, I've got Boyd at $290k. He'll turn into an F7 and cover any doughnuts in the ruck/forward late on.
    If it means trading Congilio to any of Beams/Murphy/Swallow, I say yes. Not sold on Congilio.

    2) Agree with Heeney. Watch.

    3) Agree 100% with defence. Go light on, defenders are generally the most overpriced and you'll fall behind if you don't load up on mid/fwd. I have Simpson D1 and then the same D2/3. Tossing up the big Doch!
    Again, Going to M6 is key.. you'll have great scoring potential early on. I don't rate Bont/Coniglio as picks.
    Firstly, Bont is a jet but I'd love to see a bit of form on him early on before selecting him… in WAY too many teams for literally one good season.
    Congilio just has too many what ifs.

    I don't rate the Lynch selection on the pure basis that you'll have a doughnut in R8, essentially meaning if you have a rookie who scores 60 over his potential 100 you'd be missing out on 40 points? Better off going JJK/Macrae and then upgrading to Lynch post-R8? You'd have to hope he scores minimum 5+ points on average more than these players to even start warranting a selection.

    Overall, great V1 mate! Good luck for the season, hope that helps

Holty · 30/01/2017 at 13:36

DEF: Simpson, Rance, Shaw, McGrath, Andrew (MID) Scharenberg, Hampton, (Ryan, Stewart)
MID: Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Selwood, Kennedy, Fyfe, Myers, Bolton, Pickett, (FWD), (Powell-Pepper, Graham, Freeman)
RUCKS: Gawn, Sandilands, (Strnadica, (FWD))
FOR: Dahlhaus, (MID) Ryder, (RUC) Roughead, Heeney, Black, McCluggage, (MID) (Eddy, Rioli)
$273k left

After using multiple trades up early last few years on injury prone players, I've decided to go in with premiums who tyear in year out get through the season. No Rocky, Ablett, Beams etc for me this year.
I know I have Fyfe and Sandi in the side but Sandi has the backup in Ryder and Fyfe I feel you simply cant go into the season without.
Rookies are obviously subject to change. Have most of the expensive rookies but if we have plenty of rookies to select from in round 1, I may downgrade them to cheaper to maybe slip in a extra premium. Also have the option to bring in Swallow and replace with a rookie.
Most years going in with mid-pricers like Ryder, Heeney and Roughead (especially playing in the same position) is stupidity. But seeing what we have to select from this year in the forward line, I believe 95 average will at least get you to a top 10 forward and both Ryder and Roughie have done it before. Heeney selection will depend on where he lines up in the pre-season games.
Also, Rance has been selected for his durability and most importantly, his round 12 bye which I believe will help

Let me know your thoughts community.

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 22:31

    Overall, great selections mate and I rate your reasoning behind not going with injury prone players (I'm trying to do the same).

    Firstly, I don't mind your defence. Injury prone Adams obviously don't fit your bill? Still think he'll smash out 100's until he goes down. He's in my team. Rance GREAT pod.

    Mid locked and loaded. Not many POD's but all of them will deliver! Rate it.

    Ryder/Roughy/Heeney,.. reckon everyone's dreaming a bit here. Roughy won't have the same delivery he did two years ago, Ryder will more than likely be going in the ruck with Lobbe, resting forward and once Charlie Dixon goes down,. play even more forward! Average 80-90 IMO. Is it a top 8 forward? not imo.
    Heeney is in and out of my team. I'd rather double downgrade/upgrade and get another rookie and maybe Macrae or have a punt on a key forward? Normally a trap but I reckon this year you have to roll with one of them.

    Overall good team Holty! Good luck for the season boss

      Holty · 30/01/2017 at 22:55

      Cheers Morrow much appreciated. Hoping with that forward line in some way is correct but i really dont believe Lobbe will play and Ryder will be rucking most of the time. Roughie if match fit will spend time in the middle like he use too. Except without Mitchell and Lewis he may spend more time in there. I do agree however the delivery into the forward line wont be as good though. Good luck to you as well for the season

        Morrow · 31/01/2017 at 00:13

        Definitely keep an eye on Ryder! Roughy is in and out of my team too,… strong guns n' rookies never seems to fail though and unfortunately Roughy doesn't sit in either.

chris duff · 30/01/2017 at 14:14

1. R, LairdDEF$526,800
2. J, JohannisenDEF$513,500
3. T, McDonaldDEF$488,200
4. B, HouliDEF$486,000
5. A, McGrathDEF$211,800
6. M, ScharenbergDEF$164,000
7. L, RyanDEF$117,300
8. T, StewartDEF$117,300
9. P, DangerfieldMID$716,900
10. D, HanneberyMID$616,800
11. M, BontempelliMID$586,100
12. N, FyfeMID$573,500
13. J, StevenMID$560,600
14. J, BowesMID$171,300
15. S, Powell-PepperMID$135,300
16. D, MyersMID$133,700
17. J, PickettMID$123,900
18. N, FreemanMID$123,900
19. J, GrahamMID$117,300
20. T, GoldsteinRUC$588,400
21. T, BellchambersRUC$305,100
22. D, CameronRUC$117,300
23. L, DahlhausFWD$520,700
24. L, FranklinFWD$514,600
25. T, LynchFWD$507,200
26. P, RyderFWD$418,100
27. H, McCluggageFWD$202,800
28. S, BoltonFWD$117,300
29. B, LongFWD$117,300
30. B, EddyFWD$102,400

Mickey P · 30/01/2017 at 16:16

Have never asked for feedback on my team before, might explain my poor rankings in years gone by, so here I am looking for feedback from the best SC community known to man …. I am a big boy so let me have it 🙂

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Adams, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Berry (Collins/Ryan)
MID: Danger, Treloar, Fyfe, Prestia, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, Myers (SPP/Pickett/Graham)
RUCK: Goldy, Sandi
FWD: Dahl, Heeney, Bennell, Elliot, McCarthy, Bolton (Rioli/Eddy)
$103k left

    wombatsfc · 30/01/2017 at 17:12

    adams and hartlett both have significant issues – see relevant player profiles and comments
    I like your other midprice risks and Prestia is a wise choice he's the reason that Caddy will be crap again.
    bit light up front Harley probably wont play first 1-3 and eddy is still rookie listed.
    Looks pretty solid otherwise

      Mickey P · 01/02/2017 at 00:57

      From a seasoned campaigner Wombat some helpful comments. Thanks mate

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 22:33

    Not bad mate, too many mid pricers IMO.

    Hartlett/Adams/Beams/Fyfe/Bennell all coming back from injuries.. not sure if any listed will be top 8 scorers at seasons end.
    I'd be scrapping two of Heeney/Bennell/Elliot and getting in another rookie and maybe an ultra premium… Macrae, JJK, Lynch?

    Not too bad of a team but overall too many risks/mid pricers for mine! Good luck

Ringy · 30/01/2017 at 17:27

DEF:
H.Shaw, T.Adams, R.Laird, M.Hibberd, A.McGrath, L.Keeffe.
(M.Hibberd/L.Ryan)

MID:
P.Dangerfield, J.Kennedy, M.Bontempelli, N.Fyfe, D.Heppell, H.McCluggage, J.Bowes, S.Powell-Pepper.
(J.Berry/N.Freeman, J.Graham)

RUCK:
M.Gawn, B.Grundy (D.Cameron)

FWD:
L.Dahlhaus, T.Greene, I.Heeney, B.Ainsworth, J.Galluci, J.Pickett
(C.Brown, W.Rioli)

HallyMate · 30/01/2017 at 17:36

D: Laird, Johannisen, Williams, Scharenberg, Berry, Ryan (Long, Vickers-Willis)
M: Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Freeman, Graham)
R: Grundy, Sandi (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Roughy, Pickett, Rioli (Eddy, Ridley)
30k remaining, feel free to leave some feedback

TEM · 30/01/2017 at 22:14

hey guys, first team of the year after finishing in top 1000 last year, I have been living under a rock ever since the doggies won the flag but over the last couple days ive done some research and tried to put a team together and this is what i have, please feel free to leave any tips like some must have bargains, rookies and premos and areas i should change.

105K IN THE BANK

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Tmac, Mcgrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Bont, Beams, Heppell, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Bolton, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Martin (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Ryder, Roughead, Hoskin-Elliot, Mccluggage, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)

so with my defenders i feel shaw is the safest option, though he may start a bit slow i still think he will be the shaw from 2015 and bounce back to his monster scores, i am considering simpson as i fell in love with him last year since i started with him as a pod, may upgrade Tmac to him.

Mids are a bit stacked, i would like to have SPP on the field but i cant get myself to take out any of the guys, i feel bont is gonna become ultra premo, danger needs no explanation, pendles is dependable, fyfe is worth the risk and is top 3 in AFL when healthy, heppell is undervalued alongside beams who is ultra, swallow is too good to pass up on and myers is a great cash cow. however the one most likely to go is heppell as i feel he may not be a top 10 midefielder so it may be a waste picking him but we will have to see.

my ruck strategy last year was set and forget and boy it did me wonders, never made a trade since i started with gawn and goldstein, however i was a little dissapointed goldy didnt perform to his 2015 form and i paid top dollar for him, however i think i may somehow try and upgrade martin to goldy since i think he can bounce back (even though he averaged 108).

forwards are my biggest issue this year, i feel like the only certain one for me is ryder, i am tempted by wingard as we all know what he can do but he is super inconsistent, honestly i am clueless about the forward line so i might try and get some mid pricers like jamie elliot, hoskin elliot, roughead, wingard, heeney etc.

please leave any feedback, the good, the bad and the terrible.

    Morrow · 30/01/2017 at 22:43

    Love the write up mate,

    Firstly, great minds think alike… also started Simpson as a POD last year. What a great selection he was! In my team at the moment, for some reason haven't even considered Shaw.. think he's a relatively safe option. What I'm more interested in is your non-selection of Adams (too injury prone?),.. love the T-Mac selection!! Can he get back to his best supercoach scores or just a lockdown defender?

    Good mid write up. Agree with the last sentence, Heppell should go. Don't think he'll be a top 10 midfielder, too many variables how the team will go as a whole.

    Set and forget is the way to go! I like the Martin pick but SURELY Sandi is just too hard to resist. He has had a pretty good clean bill of health last few years besides from his broken ribs. Strongly consider.

    "might try and get some mid pricers"… don't fall into the trap!
    I don't think Roughy will be a top 10 forward (won't have the same delivery as old), Wingard is a burn man, Elliot is a burn man, Heeney I have on a strong watch list… reckon he could deliver but still, who knows? So many have promised in years gone by and not delivered.
    I'm not sold on Ryder, think he will be the biggest burn man of all. I'd love to see him share the ruck duos with Lobbe, rest forward…. not do much. Charlie Dixon goes out, rests even more permanetly forward and go on to average 80-85 for the year. I've got Boyd in as a cheap DPP swing but reckon so many people are jumping on Ryder so quick, still on my watch list.

    Overall, good team mate,.. really rate the defence/mids but reckon Heppell should go to an ultra premo and maybe downgrade/upgrade Roughy/H-E/Martin.

    Good luck for the season.

      TEM · 30/01/2017 at 22:56

      Shaw has been a top 6 defender for the last few years now so to me he is one of the safer options however he isnt a lock for me, i may downgrade heppell and use the cash to fix my forward line and upgrade H-E, however i would have to disagree about roughy, he may not avergae the ton this year but i think he could be a top 10 forward, and the delivery wont fall off as much with titchell and omeara coming over, plus the hawks have always had a log jam so some players may get more oppurtiunity.

      however i am most likely not going to select sandilands, he is way too injury prone and is really old, to me the risk outways the reward. i havent really though about taylor adams as im not completely sold on him but my opinion can change quickly.

      anyways i have lots to fix but i need to do a lot more research. thanks for the tip, bye bye heppell.

        Morrow · 31/01/2017 at 00:12

        Sounds good to me mate!

        Roughy has been in and out of my team, I just don't like the look of him being there at seasons end.
        Disagree about Sandi, only injury he's had last 2-3 years has been a knee to the ribs from Nic Nat (bound to shatter anyone's ribs!), priced nicely for an easy stepping stone to Goldy around bye times if he can string those games together.

        Team looks good so far, good luck with the next few weeks!

          Pecks · 04/02/2017 at 23:32

          What about the endless Turf Toe issues?

pete · 31/01/2017 at 09:12

shaw, adams, laird,mcgrath, schatwnberg,hibberd (ryan,long)
danger, pendlebury,hannas, bont, fyfe, swallow, sps, spp (myers. pickett, freeman)
goldy, sandi (strnadica)
dahlhaus, macrae, heeney, roughead, McCarthy,mccluggage (Bolton, eddy)
51,300 left

Tyson · 31/01/2017 at 13:47

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Rance, Adams, laird,
Murphy, McGrath, berry (scrimshaw, Ryan)

Dangerfield(c), Rockliff(vc), Bont, Fyfe, beams, o'meara, mccluggage, Brodie (SPP, Myers, freeman)

Dahlhaus, macrae, lynch (gc), Roughead, Ainsworth, Bowes (Pickett, eddy)

willy · 31/01/2017 at 13:50

fuvk you dog

Dave2008 · 01/02/2017 at 22:26

Gday Commuinity!

Most recent draft with a G and R strategy. Im doubtful Murphy KK Beams will be in top players at their position so will just require a trade to upgrade them. Like everyone unsure yet on rookies so some are just place holders.

D Docherty Adams Laird Keefe Scharenberg Ryan Hewett Long
M Danger Pendles JPK Sloane Fyfe Berry SPP Myers Pickett Bolton Graham
R Gawn Goldy Strnadica
F Dalihaus Buddy McRae Roughy Dear Hayward Rioli Eddy

Any thoughts RE structure?
Thanks
Daave

tommo · 02/02/2017 at 00:02

Def: Docherty, Shaw, Taylor Adams, newman, Scharenberg, Long, Ryan, Stewart
Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Berry, Powell-Pepper, Myers, Pickett, Graham
Ruck: Gawn, Goldstein,Strnadica
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, heeney, darcy Cameron, rioli, Black, Bolton, Eddy

With sandi not looking likely with the injury, goldstein comes in for a set and forget rucks approach. This changes the dynamics of the team a bit but still locking in 5+ 500k mids. Liking the look at the way this is shaping up but still tossing around ryder/bennell/roughead/touk/jack martin for heeney, and the combination of 3 premos in defense, any feedback would be awesome!

Dan2703 · 02/02/2017 at 09:09

Hey guys, my first official team… decided to balls it and go Witts as R2. Would appreciate some feedback!

DEF: Docherty, Simpson, Laird, Keefe, Scharenberg, Ryan (Newman, Stewart)
MID: Danger, JPK, Treloar, Sloane, Coniglio, Fyfe, SPP, Myers (Freeman, Bolton, Graham)
RUCK: Gawn, Witts (Cameron)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Tom Lynch GC, Gunston, T.Boyd, Galluci, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)

Jack · 02/02/2017 at 11:49

Def- Laird, JJ, Houli,Hibberd, Mcgrath, Berry (Collins,Ryan)
Mid- Danger, Treloar,Bont, hepell,beams,swallow,Powell-pepper, Myers(Freeman,Witherden,Bolton)
Ruc- Gawn,Grundy(Cameron)
Fwd-MAcrae,Smith,Heeney,Rioli, Mccluggage,Bowes(pickdtt,Lamb)
Whats your thoughts got 140k left in the bank

Luke · 02/02/2017 at 12:42

Hello Please rate my team looking to really get up into top 100 territory been floating around 10/20 thousand mark,

S Docherty H Shaw R Laird
A Mcgrath M Sharenberg E Vickers willis bench L Ryan T Stewart

Danger BONT Coniglio FYFE T Mitchell D Beam SPP d Myers Bench J beryy J Picket J Graham

M Gawnstein bench L Strndac

Dahl T Lynch i Heeney

H Mc luggage B LONG Willioli Bench Eddy, mc Kay

    Luke · 02/02/2017 at 12:44

    I dont want any mid pricers << Pure Guns & Rookies approach

Starry's SCRO team · 02/02/2017 at 15:59

Let me know what you think Jock… Had to ditch Sandipants today…. Stitched me up a bit.

BACKS:
S.Docherty, T. Adams, Z.Williams, R.Murphy, A.McGrath, J.Berry
(L.Ryan, T.Stewart) (3 x MID/DEF)

MIDS:
S.Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, N.Fyfe, T.Mitchell, D. Beams, H. McCluggage, S.Power-Pepper, D. Myers
(M. Hibberd, C.Glass, S. Bolton) ( 2 x FWD/MID + 2 x DEF/MID)

RUCKS:
Goldy, Grundy (L. Strnadnica) (1 x RUCK/FORWARD)

FORWARDS:
L. Dahlhaus, B. Deledio, H. Bennel, J. Roughead, T.Nankervis, A. Black
(J. PIckett, T. Miles) (4 x FORWARD/MID + 1 x FORWARD/RUCK)

wombatsfc · 02/02/2017 at 21:37

John Worsfold on McGrath Feb 2nd
"At the moment, he's done only just over half the workload of what the senior guys are doing and if Dyson Heppell had done that workload I'd be concerned about him going into round one," he said.
A lot of teams have this guy as a starter some with him as high as D4 or D5 – Time to rethink that one guys

Snakewu · 03/02/2017 at 08:31

Def: Doc Laird Vlastuin Hibberd Scharenberg Ryan (Skinner Stewart)

Mid: Danger Pendles Rockliff Fyfe Murphy Swallow Bowes Myers (SPP Graham J. Williams)

Ruc: Goldy Ryder (Sterndick)

Fwd: Roo Dahl Lynch Roughie Mclug Pickett (Poholke Smith)

Cheers community!

Steve · 03/02/2017 at 10:46

DEF: Adams, Laird, JJ, Williams, SBerg, Berry (Stewart, Ryan)

MID: Treloar, Cripps, Congilio, Fyfe, Miller, Swallow, P-Pepper, Myers, (Freeman, Hibberd, Bolton)

Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica*)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Bennell, Roughy, McCluggage, Bowes, (Pickett, Eddy)

100k

TouchMyHeeney · 03/02/2017 at 12:20

DEF: Laird, JJ, Harlett, Hibberd, Murphy, J.Berry (L.Ryan, T.Stewart)

MID: Bontempelli, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Murphy, D.Swallow, D.Myers, N.Freeman (S.Powell-Pepper, D.Gore, J.Graham)

RUCK: Grundy, Martin (L.Strnadica)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Roughead, Elliot (J.Pickett, B.Eddy)

Aaron · 04/02/2017 at 14:48

Anyone wanting to join a league feel free to join. 149246

vinnymac · 04/02/2017 at 15:11

Okay here we go!

DEF: Montagna, Laird, Murphy, Scharenberg, Newman, Ryan, (Stewert, Long)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Priddis, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Berry, (Powell-Pepper, Myers, Graham)
RUC: Jacobs, Ryder, (Witts)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Roughead, Boyd, McCarthy, W. Rioli (T. Smith, Eddy)

I've stacked the midfield and fingers crossed the premos stay good. I'm gonna be swinging with Ryder and Tom Boyd, and have gone with DPP rookies on each line.

Defenders are overpriced so I'd rather be upgrading more of that line rather than the midfield. Heaps of midpricers in the forward line because I feel they can all at least make me $100,000 if not become premo.

Tyson · 05/02/2017 at 00:03

Trade out mccrae or tommy lynch?

Tim · 05/02/2017 at 10:39

775642 public league!!

Eckie · 06/02/2017 at 15:39

Hi all. Long time reader, first time poster. First of all, great work with the community…it seems to have stepped up a notch this season which is great. Would love some thoughts on my team…

H. Shaw, T. Adams, T. McDonald, L. Keeffe, M. Scharenberg, L. Ryan (M. Hibberd, T. Stewart)
P. Dangerfield, R. Sloane, R. Gray, M. Bontempelli, N. Fyfe, J. Bowes, J. Berry, S. Powell-Pepper (D. Myers, C. Brown, J. Graham)
M. Gawn, T. Goldstein (L. Strnadica)
J. Kennedy, L. Dahlhaus, J. Macrae, J. Roughead, J. Gallucci, J. Pickett (W. Rioli, B. Eddy)

Still have $88.8K left.

Thinking maybe "upgrading" to maybe a Hanneberry or a Parker from SYD maybe?

    jockreynolds · 06/02/2017 at 15:52

    Welcome Eckie!! Thanks for you kind words and it's great to see you here in the comments son. A lot to like about this team mate, personally I'd get rid of Goldstein and look for some more value at R2. Again, a warm welcome!

Andrew · 07/02/2017 at 23:39

"First Time Long Time"

Adams, Laird, Mills, Hibberd, Keefe, Berry [Ryan, Stewart]

Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, Foote, Myers [SPP, Pickett, Bolton]

Gawn, Goldy [Strn….]

Dahl, Tom Lynch, Henney, Jack Steele, Josh Thomas, Jack Bowes [Tim Smith, Eddy]

Only 14.4k left

Loo · 08/02/2017 at 17:55

Def – Boyd, Simpson, McDonald, Murphy, Andrews, Scharenburg (Keefe, Newman)
Mid – Danger, Parker, Fyfe, Beams, Heppell, D.Swallow, McCluggage, SPP (Myers, Hibbert, Bolton)
Ruck – Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica)
Fwd – Macrae, Heeney, Caddy, Ryder, Ainsworth, W.Rioli (Eddy, T.Smith)

Dani · 08/02/2017 at 17:56

Def – Boyd, Shaw, Simpson, Hibberd (Melbourne), Andrews, Gardner (Keefe, Newman)
Mid – Danger, treloar, Neale, Fyfe, Heppell, D.Swallow, Foote, SPP (Myers, Hibberd (NM), Graham)
Ruck – Gawn, Goldy (Strnadica)
Fwd – Macrae, Heeney, Roughy, McCluggage, McCarthy, Ainsworth (W.Rioli, Eddy)

Troy · 09/02/2017 at 16:32

DEF – T. Adams, R. Laird, M. Hibberd (Melb), C. Marchbank, M. Scharenburg, L. Keefe (L. Ryan, T. Stewart)

MID- Danger, Pendles, Rockliff, Fyfe, Heppell, Hrovat, D. Swallow, D. Myers (J. Berry, S. Powell-Pepper, M. Hibberd)

RUCK – Gawn, S. Martin (Strnadica)

FWD – Dahlhaus, Caddy, Ryder, Roughy, J. Thomas, B. Eddy (J. Pickstt, W. Rioli)

mtoolss · 04/03/2017 at 16:28

Cool one….

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