Jack Lloyd Rocky SupercoachRocky MK II?

No not Tommy Rockliff , this Rocky

When Jake Lloyd was just 13 his father Tony started him in fitness training with former South Sydney and Parramatta conditioning coach Jimmy Wright. And we’re not just talking a few light jogs here. Workouts included squats, push ups, Jock Reynolds burpees, speed ball work and sprint work as well as runs up near Mount Arapiles. Coupled with this was a strict diet and sleeping regime (except when Jake was woken up at 3am by Jimmy for a training session).

Some would say this is borderline insane and pushing the boundaries , but whatever your opinion the proof is in the pudding. Jake is an incredibly fit (and equally importantly) and emotionally strong young man.


2017 Price:    $460,200
2017 Position:    DEF/MID
Games last season:    26 (inc finals)
Average last season:    84.6
100+ games last season:    4 
Sub 80 games last season:    10
Price range last season:    $370K – $440K
Zany facts: 
  • Taken at pick 16 in the 2012 AFL Draft
  • Seventh in Sydney’s Best & Fairest 2016



Looking at those 100+ and sub 80 scores I hear you saying ‘Bont.. back in your box mate’ but hear me out…

Early on in the season Lloyd played predominantly as an outside midfielder . And while his output wasn’t overly bad, an average of 80.7 before the bye wouldn’t be deemed as overly relevant, especially considering he wasn’t a dual position player in 16 .

However then came what can often drag a player into relevance , a role change . John Longmire decided that Lloyd was a good enough ball user and had the decision making abilities he needed off half back .

What then transpired was a 9 round average of 90.1 to finish the season , along with a handy average of 91.25 through the four finals .

Average touches also lifted from 23 to 25 , but more interestingly for us supercoachers was the increase in kicks from a meagre 12.9 pre bye to 17.5 post bye. When you think of every quality defender you think of a kick to handball ratio , and it jumped sharply from 1.2: 1 to 2.16:1 .

What all this shows is if this half back / wing role continues we can expect (hope) that Lloyds average at the very least stays consistent at that 90 odd average he accrued from round 15.


When I look at the first page of SuperCoach defenders this year I see Docherty, Simpson, Shaw, maybe Adams and Burgoyne . Then I see a lot of mid priced ‘potential’, and that’s all it is. Beyond page one, a lot of ‘could be relevant’ types . Think Williams , think T Mac , think Tuohy, think Hartlett, think Lloyd.

These are the type of players that always tease us, oozing with potential, but always fraught with Danger.

Will  Lloyd be able to continue evolving into his half back role and become a master accumulator? I believe he has all the attributes to play this plus one role that Simpson, Heater and co have played so beautifully for us over the years. But unfortunately until we see pre season this is just a pipe dream, and there lies the risk .

Durability is no issue , nor is his security in the team . As mentioned above Lloyd is a super hard worker and has adjusted to every role thrown at him so far, a great utility player.


Typical breakout contender. 23 years old, fourth season, a spike in average each year. He has all the things were looking for, but so did Kade Kolodjashnij. Remember him??


  • Nice DEF/MID dual position
  • great role : mix of half back and wing
  • large increase in kick to handball ratio
  • young, durable, secure role.
  • part of a very smooth moving quality Sydney outfit. Has spent time training in the midfield group, think of the kind of quality Intel/ experience one could get training around the likes of Kennedy, Parker, Hanners and co.
  • Showed great maturity and composure when thrust into his new role in the second half of 2016. Quality ball user .


  • will he continue his role off half back in 2017 , evidence suggests that his average will drop if he was to be put back into his outside midfield role again
  • still reasonably expensive at his price (460k)
  • could be another mid price bomb
  • is this a year to be experimenting with the defence ?
  • happens to play next to Dane Rampe who is a brilliant ball user by foot , definitely won’t get as many hand ball receives and cheap kicks as a Docherty/Shaw .


Watch pre season role 

I’ll be watching his JLT cup form to see if they continue to play him in a SC friendly role as a plus one .

By the Bont


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TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 12:26

Nice write up Bont. Awkward price.
One thing for sure with a training regime like that you cannot argue with his dedication to the sport or cause.
I haven't considered Lloyd and probably wont as I'm going with a GNR defence this year as their appears to be lots of rookie options down back in 2017.
Speaking of rookies the AFL has just released an article on who is flying in the preseason and is shaping at this early stage for Rd 1 debut or early games.
I have just put one name next to each club but go check out the article if you want to know how all the rooks are going:
Adelaide: Galluci
Brisbane: Mcbags
Carlton: SPS
Collingwood: Brown
Essendon: McGrath
Fremantle: Logue
Geelong: Stewart/Parfitt
Gold Coast: Ainsworth/Bowes
GWS: Tarranto
Hawthorn: Morrison
Melbourne: Smith
North Melbourne: Williams
Port Adelaide: SPP
Richmond: Graham
St Kilda: NOMCOC (GR8 handle INP)
Sydney: Cameron
West Coast: Petrie. Rookie – NOMCOC II
Western Bulldogs: English

So big mix there. Some nice cheap rooks and some excy ones.
You don't go high in the the draft unless you can play. Showing why already.
If they play early might just be worth spending those extra $$.

    The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 12:39

    Yeah fair call trigger . I'm just trying to work out who my first three guns are wondering if dochs role changes this year now they lost tuohy who was playing a lock down def and shaw will be the target of a few tags.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/01/2017 at 12:43

      might be a doc article in the pipeline that may go towards answering some of these questions.

        The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 12:58

        Either simmo or doch plays that role for me , they won't leave it to a young fella .. Concerning

          Seeker · 23/01/2017 at 13:08

          And Marchbank could be used for defensive run

    I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 15:19

    Just read that article Trigger. Looks like my rookie recommendations thus far aren't letting anyone down

Kev · 23/01/2017 at 12:38

I don't mind Lloyd. I think you've got to ask yourself what you want to get out of him. Stepping stone or keeper? Patch has torn the SuperCoach world a new one with his article on midpricers. At Lloyd's price and a 90 average he will get up around 500k, not enough as a stepping stone and unlikely to be a top 8 defender.

Ceiling is also a worry.

Nice write up, Bont

    The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 12:44

    Yeah fair play Kev , hoping he could push up to 95 to be honest . Good call with the ceiling too didn't notice that

#EngineRoom · 23/01/2017 at 12:44

Nice write up mate. Tell me, where did you get the inspiration to write said article??

    The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 12:48

    Just doing my research one night and stumbled upon him mate . #statman

      #EngineRoom · 23/01/2017 at 13:09

      hahahahaha.. wayneker..

        TOMAHAWK · 24/01/2017 at 00:08

        Best article so far…

          #EngineRoom · 25/01/2017 at 21:13

          Obviously didn't read his other articles Tomahawk??? Titchell and Tommy Mac were 2nd to none.

I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 13:27

Interesting proposition this Bont. I'll give him some thought during the preseason games if I'm looking for a POD. I'm not sure he's going to be bye friendly for my team. And that's going to be important. One thing is for sure we are not struggling for defence options this season. They are everywhere. Great work Bont

    The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 14:39

    True that Pie, each one holds there positives and negatives. Its just a game of picking the right three.

      I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 15:39

      Do you think he has Rampe covered as a selection?

        The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 19:22

        I think they've been playing Rampe as that plus one for a while now , but experimented with Lloyd for the last half dozen games. I don't think he's got him covered for pace, but the kid has great composure . Brilliant decision maker and great by foot, could work in tandem with Rampe perhaps like doch and simmo last year.

          I N Pieman · 23/01/2017 at 20:07

          Hmmm interesting. I'll keep that in mind. Nice insight Bont

            The Bont · 23/01/2017 at 21:03

            23 years old too , in a very good Sydney unit . I dont buy into the thought of a defender having to be in a crap team to score points . Intercept marks and possessions are gold , add that to an effective kick that creates a scoring chain and you've got all the ingredients for sc success . He makes that plus one role his own with his footy smarts and ability to read the ball , he could become something special …
            Disclaimer : could

              TOMAHAWK · 24/01/2017 at 00:09

              you've swayed me.

                TOMAHAWK · 24/01/2017 at 00:10

                Thoughts on him vs Mills? Can Mills possibly score the same for $80k less Bont?

                  The Bont · 24/01/2017 at 00:43

                  I really like the way Mills plays, first year average of 77 odd is very promising. Fitted right in with a lot of solid scores , beware the second year Blues though Tomahawk . Very common in afl and sc unfortunately , a players output and scores normally faulter as they have that increased pressure to perform .
                  mills will get some midfield time to strut his stuff , and it will be interesting to see how he goes . But I don't think he can push up to a 90 odd average personally and challenged Lloyd this year purely because Rampe and hopefully Lloyd fill the plus one role and gather all the intercepts and Sydney's engine room is full of blue chip stock so he won't get a solid run through the guts .

                    #EngineRoom · 25/01/2017 at 21:15

                    Hey Bont, thoughts on Dangerfield this yr?

Off The Bench · 23/01/2017 at 22:27

Great article. Was a solid no until reading this. Watchlist for now.

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