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Barron’s Supercoach 2017 Bargain Bin

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Barron Von Crow

Well, week 1 of the Supercoach Finals are out of the way, and what a frustrating week it was for some of us.

We had plenty of usually reliable players such as Heath Shaw, Robbie Gray and Josh Gibson score well below par as well as others such as Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Selwood and Ward fail to hit a triple digit score.

All was not lost though, the magnificent Max Gawn put out a score that would have saved many a fantasy football side (especially if you made him captain), as well as popular players such as Rory Sloane, Dan Hannebery, Matt Priddis and Luke Parker all scoring well.

And since it’s finals time we’re going to change it up a bit here from this week and for the rest of the year as we’ll skip our weekly review of rookie priced players as their relevance for us is now at it’s lowest point and we’ll begin to focus all our efforts on scouting for 2017.

That means the Barron’s Bargain Bin, Around the Grounds and of course the qualification period for CoachKings Venue Finals will be our main points of interest for the next 3 weeks as we begin our quest for even greater fantasy football glory next year.

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Barron’s Supercoach 2017 Bargain Bin

Last week in the bargain bin we looked at 2 previously established players in Curtly Hampton and Troy Menzel, this week we’re going to be looking at some diamonds in the rough, young draftees who are still developing, haven’t had a huge amount of games, or haven’t been able to play consistently this year and could find themselves playing plenty of AFL football next year.

We’re going to go even more specific and take a look at 3 young players from the GWS Giants.

If there is one thing the Giants are not short on, it’s young talent, so they have plenty of guys who have slipped through the cracks just because there’s just not enough room for them in the Giants 22. We saw last year how the Giants moved on a large number of talented, but fringe players, trading out Curtly Hampton, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner, Jacob Townsend and Tomas Bugg to make room for all their academy recruits, with all but Hampton playing AFL football this year with their new clubs.

With the Giants again having a few academy players to bring in in this years draft, with youngsters such as Harry Perryman, Will Setterfield, Kobe Mutch, Zach Sproule, Connor Byrne and Harrison Macreadie all looking like they’ll be good players I think we could see these 3 players at new clubs next year where there will potentially be even more opportunities available to them.

Jake Barrett

Height: 184cm
Weight: 80kg
Age: 20 years, 9 months
Position: MID
AFL Games: 1

Jake Barrett was a NSW Zone Selection for the Giants in the 2013 draft, but has only managed to play 1 AFL game, which was in Round 23 in 2015 where he was wearing the green vest, so he only had about 30 minutes of actual time on the field. He’s been plugging away in the NEAFL for the past 3 years, where he has been fairly consistent as an inside midfielder, as his stats for this year in the NEAFL show.

Supercoach 2017 Table 1

We’ve seen this before with someone like Anthony Miles, who was dumped by GWS and picked up by Richmond and went on to average 99.9 SCPoints in his first year at the Tigers. We’ve also seen on the opposite end with someone like Jacob Townsend, who was also dumped by GWS and picked up by Richmond, but he’s only managed to play 4 games and average 58.8 SCPoints this year.

Another comparison we could make would also be Sydney’s Tom Mitchell, who spent a few years playing in the NEAFL like Barrett and then came in and averaged 86.2 SCPoints in his “rookie” year in 2013. I wouldn’t bank on him reaching the heights of Miles and Mitchell, but he could be a solid inside grunt for a side like Richmond, Carlton or Brisbane next season and put up some solid scores, which is all we’re really looking for from our rookie picks.

Adam Tomlinson

Height: 193cm
Weight: 94kg
Age: 23 years
Position: DEF/FWD
AFL Games: 62

There’s been plenty of rumours about this guy being headed to Carlton next year, SOS was big on him and tried to get him last year, but Tomlinson chose to stick it out with GWS, but many think he’s already got the navy blue guernsey sitting in his closet for next year. It’s difficult to peg where Tomlinson will be price wise after this year. He’s currently costing $274,400, but is only averaging 55 SCPoints, so there’s a good chance he’ll enter next year at around the same price, or slightly cheaper. His NEAFL stats are slightly misleading as he usually plays as a big bodied midfielder at that level, and he’s had some huge games, with a fortnight in the NEAFL where had racked up 96 disposals, 22 inside 50’s, 16 clearances and 21 marks.

AFL-Supercoach-2017-Table-2

He won’t likely play as a full time midfielder in the AFL though and is currently being used in defence for the Giants, but I’d actually see him being his best by using his tremendous running capacity and good marking skills as a link up man up forward ala Adelaide’s Tom Lynch (though I don’t think he’ll have the goal scoring ability of Lynch).

Lynch averaged 79 SCPoints in his first “full” year at the Crows (He played 6 games in 2012 for an average of 43 SCPoints), though the question will then become is a peak 75-80 average from Tomlinson enough to make us consider him at a top end rookie price?

James Stewart

Height: 196cm
Weight: 89kg
Age: 22 years, 5 months
Position: FWD
AFL Games: 18

Stewart has only managed the 1 AFL game this year, in Round 1 where he scored just the 8 SCPoints. We saw this year with someone like Sam Kerridge who played just 1 game in 2015 and scored 22 SCPoints that this sort of thing demolishes value for the next year, so although Stewart is currently priced at $280,600 this year, I think he could fall to that rookie basement price next year. He’s a decent sized forward and can also push up onto the wing, but he’s just in a side where there is a lot of forward line talent, both big and small, and he’s having trouble breaking through, though he has been a solid goal scorer at NEAFL level.

Supercoach 2017 Table 3

He hasn’t been linked to sides as much as some of his teammates in Tomlinson and Jack Steele, but I’m sure there’s teams in Victoria such as Richmond (his Dad played 35 games for Richmond) and Carlton, or even interstate with sides like Port Adelaide and Fremantle, who could have serious interest in adding a forward of his size. Collingwood passed on Stewart as an F/S selection originally (James Dad Craig Stewart played 115 games for the Pies prior to moving to Richmond), though I imagine they could possibly have interest in bringing him in as a replacement for Jesse White.

Either way, he’ll likely be very cheap next year, so that will instantly put him on our radars next year, and if he moves to a side crying out for a big forward, then his appeal will be all the greater.

AROUND THE GROUNDS…

VFL

Darcy Lang – Led the Geelong VFL side in disposals with 32, along with 1 goal, 7 marks and 8 tackles with Geelong destroying the Frankstown Dolphins 146-45.

Wylie Buzza – Buzza had 20 disposals, 6 marks, 8 tackles, 10 hitouts and kicked a goal for Geelong. Has improved quite a bit as the year has gone on.

Paidraig Lucey – Lucey kicked 2 goals, along with 11 disposals and 24 hitouts.

Josh Saunders – Big game for Saunders with 35 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles and 2 goals as Sandringham defeated North Ballarat 127-74

Jack Sinclair – Sinclair had 33 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles for Sandringham.

Brodie Murdoch – Murdoch had 25 disposals, 7 marks and kicked 1.1

Nick O’Kearney – O’Kearney kicked 3 goals as well as having 24 disposals, 7 marks and 3 tackles.

Nathan Freeman – Played his 3rd game in a row, but is still struggling to get involved, he had just 6 disposals and 2 tackles. He’ll take some time to get back in the swing of things, he’ll be looking to have a huge pre-season next year.

Tom Phillips – Kicked 1.1, along with having a game high 31 disposals, 8 marks and 6 tackles as Collingwood defeated Coburg 132-64.

Matthew Goodyear – Kicked 2.1 with 24 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles for Collingwood.

Billy Gowers – Gowers had 14 disposals, 4 marks and 4 rebound 50’s for the Northern Blues as they lost to Richmond 81-125.

Connor Menadue – Had 23 disposals, 6 marks and kicked a goal for Richmond’s VFL side.

Jason Castagna – Castagna had 22 disposals, 5 marks, 4 tackles and 2 rebound 50’s.

Nathan Broad – Broad kicked a goal, as well as having 17 disposals and 7 marks.

Todd Elton – Inaccurate in front of goals, kicking 1.4, along with 15 disposals and 8 marks.

Liam McBean – Good game for him, McBean kicked 4.1, along with 13 disposals and 8 marks.

Jack Trengove – He had 32 disposals and 14 tackles as the Casey Scorpions enjoyed a good win against Essendon, winning 129-43.

Ben Kennedy – Kennedy had 27 disposals, along with 6 marks and 4 tackles.

Dallas Willsmore – Willsmore had 22 disposals, 8 marks and 4 inside 50’s in the Box Hill Hawks 98-61 win over the Werribee Tigers.

Jack Fitzpatrick – Fitzpatrick kicked 3.1, along with 19 disposals, 9 marks and 10 hitouts.

Ryan Burton – Had plenty of shots on goal, but had a return of 3.5, along with 16 disposals and 9 marks.

Will Fordham – Fordham had 25 disposals, 9 marks and kicked a goal for Werribee.

Ben McKay – Could only kick the 1 goal, as well as having 7 disposals and 5 marks.

Bailey Dale – Had just the 12 disposal, along with 1 mark and 1 tackle as Footscray defeated Williamstown 81-77.

SANFL

Jesse Palmer – Palmer had 25 disposals, 7 marks and kicked 1.1 in Port Adelaide’s 107-50 win over North Adelaide.

Sam Colquhoun – Colquhoun had 23 disposals and 10 marks for the Magpies.

Will Snelling – Snelling had 21 disposals, 7 tackles and kicked a goal.

Riley Bonner – Bonner kicked a goal against the Roosters, just his 2nd this year, along with 16 disposals and 6 marks.

BYE: Adelaide

WAFL

Luke Partington – Led East Perth in disposals with 25, along with 6 marks and 3 inside 50’s as East Perth lost to the Peel Thunder 53-89.

Brant Colledge – Colledge had 21 disposals, 7 marks and 5 tackles.

Thomas Cole – Cole had 20 disposals, 6 marks and 3 tackles for East Perth.

Tom Lamb – Lamb kicked 2.1, along with 16 disposals and 8 marks.

Anthony Morabito – Continues to improve a bit as the season winds down, he had 26 disposals, 5 marks and 5 rebound 50’s for the Peel Thunder.

Josh Deluca – Deluca had 18 disposals, 5 marks and 2 tackles for the Peel Thunder.

NEAFL

Nic Newman – Newman led the Swans reserves with 39 disposals, along with 12 marks, 2 tackles and 2 goals as the Swans smashed the Brisbane Lions 160-25.

Jordan Foote – Foote had 31 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles and 6 inside 50’s.

Colin O’Riordan – O’Riordan had 29 disposals, 5 marks, 4 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s for the Swans.

Jack Hiscox – Hiscox had 1.2, along with 22 disposals and 6 marks.

Sam Murray – Kicked 4.4, along with 14 disposals and 6 marks.

Josh Clayton – Clayton had 25 disposals, 7 marks, 6 tackles and a goal for the Brisbane Lions.

Jackson Paine – Paine had 22 disposals and 12 marks for the Lions.

Trent West – Led the Lions rucks with 28 hitouts, as well as 20 disposals.

Jarrad Jansen – Quietish game for him with just the 13 disposals and 4 tackles.

Jake Barrett – Kicked 3 goals, along with 30 disposals and 5 marks as the UWS Giants smashed the Gold Coast Suns 170-59.

Jacob Hopper – Kicked 4 goals, along with 26 disposals and 10 marks.

Darcy MacPherson – 2nd week back after a knee injury and led the Suns in disposals with 21, along with a game high 10 tackles.

Braydon Fiorini – Fiorini had 19 disposals, 3 marks and 2 hitouts for the Suns.

CoachKings Venue Finals Qualification

Another weekend of CoachKings is right there in front of us as well. We have 6 contests over the weekend kicking off with the Doggies and Pies on Friday night. I know quite a few of you have not notched up that one win that gets you into the finals series – so get down this weekend! Here’s our fixture;

CoachKings RD21 fixture

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And that is it from me this week, but I want to hear from you. How did you all go in your first week of Supercoach Finals? And are there any players you’d like to see featured in the bargain bin for next week? Let us know in the comments below or hit us up on Twitter @BarronVonCrow


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TRIGGER HAPPY

Nice Idea BVC.
Always pays to have one eye on next year and any heads up is much appreciated.
A couple to keep an eye out for next year especially if they end up a new club which will give them more opportunity.
Speaking of which every week I see Nic Newman with a ton of disposals in the NEAFL.
Granted it is not the same as the AFL but could he be the next Tommy Mitchell?
Don't know much about him other than he gets plenty of the pill in your write ups.
If he wants to seek more opportunity at year end might be worth keeping an eye out for where he ends up as seems like a pretty solid pick.

I N Pieman

Loving the bargain bin BVC. Certainly hoping Barrett's papers are stamped & he heads to another club for opportunity. No good to us at GWS because if he does get a game or 2 then he could disappear for who knows how long. Send him to the Lions please. Sure to be best 22

Bring on 2017

Given he will miss the remainder of this season, Jaeger O'Meara should be priced at 190k next year! (If I have done the maths correctly with a 40% discount as Libba got this year)

LEKD0G

Sometimes they just price players however they want haha I hope he's that cheap though

tuxCS

O'Meara is the first non-premium in my side next year

NorthMelb

And swallow, given full preseason

pod

Watch out for players who get serious injuries, lesson learned this season with Lids, Rocky, Hall, Wells and even Gaz. Trades are priority, using them only if needed should be SC rule 1, followed by (rule 2) do not get involved with injury prone players.

Looking forward to 2017 season, should be a ripper!!

The Ranger

Top work as always Barron.
How's Hopper likely to be priced next year assuming he doesn't play again this year?
He might be my mid price gamble in the mid line next year.
And what about Hoskin-Elliot? Another one like Stewart that can't get a game.

LEKD0G

A few clubs are asking about Hoskin-Elliot

Richard

Barron should be on the AFL payroll writing articles about draft players with Cal Twomey.

SCaddict

Pendles named for now. Could still be a late out tomorrow night obviously.

Hall, Suckling, Shiel and Stef all named as well. No Sauce Jacobs though.

Dean

Pendles you prick, you better be out mate.

I feel sick to the stomach, I sure hope Pendles is out. I should be relaxing this week.

Don't Blush Baby

I was hoping Phillips didn't get named for the Pies,my loopy

Dean

How can he be your loopy if he plays on Friday?

derek

Cloke dropped. Lucky i didn't bring him in last week.

Moustachio

Never has a player more epitomised the term, supercoach relevant. RIP Clokey the god.

Curly

Which one should be on the bench out of Buddy, Dahlhaus and Hall?

bUCKET__

In a similar situation to you, Curly. Think I'll bench Franklin after last week's injury worries. I'm still able to loophole him in if he scores well. Saints have been belted a couple of times this year and Buddy could go big.

Don't Blush Baby

Derek, I see M.Lobbe back this week

Derek

Your funny

SCaddict

Yeah bad news with his new injury selection policy means he won't be able to start Lobbe next year.

In better news Bellchambers is a goer as he was only suspended.

Shake n bake

Grimley on the extended bench surely he gets dropped.

oliver

Entire team named this week including the bench, i guess no loophole for me this week.

Leeds17

Talking 2017 assuming T Mitchell leaves Sydney I reckon Heeney has to be a lock for our teams up forward, albeit against poor opposition we are seeing what he can do given real mid minutes.

Taylor Adams & Jack Martin look very good defender option too.

Dean

Do you think Pendles will play or end up a late withdrawal?

Bill

He will play

Steeeve

He'll play I reckon

Rocksta

Late Withdrawal………….Much to my Dismay!

Bucks is a Fk Whit!…………….Likes playing games!……………..has nothing else!

Bill

Bucks doesn't play him and he's toast! Pendles is a fing trooper and his ankle really wasn't that bad.

Rocksta

I hope you are right Bill.

If Pendles plays, I can turn KK into Boyd. If not, I'm stuck with KK for the rest of the season ( provided I get through this week).

Hoot

IMO… He will play. Bucks has to win and without Pendles he will be putting too much pressure on his own job security.

Northernsoul74

More concerned that he plays but is output is way down.

Harry

With McCarthy back, all my forwards are playing so no loophole option available. Who to pine: Buddy, Wingard or Hickey?

Patch

Lovely stuff, Barron. I can't wait to hear what the Banned Bombers will be priced at next year! Smart money would be the same price as this year, but would love a sneaky discount. Zach Merrett will be mid only next year which takes him as a *point of difference* to a whole new level.

Zaharakis without the tag could be worth a gander if cheap enough, too. Also tempted by Luenberger if he has an injury-free preseason – but a long, long shot at this stage.

Kev

Talking yourself into mid-pricers already, Patch! Might consider Zaha if he can snag dpp (unlikely), not premo material imo. Nothing to suggest in 2014/2015 he was going to break out

SCaddict

Zacka will likely be priced over $450K next season so probably won't be cheap enough to tempt many coaches. We'll also have a bunch of fallen premo mids (Fyfe, Beams, JOM, D.Swallow etc) to seduce us along with must haves like Danger and a batch of new rookies. So it's hard to see how we will be able to squeeze in players like Zerrett and Zacka into our midfields. Zerrett will likely cost over $580K next season btw.

Looking forward to another absorbing edition of the Panic Room tomorrow.

Patch

Yeah Zaka now more of a "wouldn't it be nice if we had 16 midfield slots" pick.

Pricing always changes these things, and I hadn't considered Merrett being much above 550k – that would make it a really tough call.

Bill

Have to say Patch I squashed you in 3 leagues this season. Your poor at picking Captains and I can say mate I would'nt trust anything you say when it comes to picking players in SC! You bloody suck, especially when it comes to captaincy! With that's said dont make any recommendations for what is cheap, or players to take in the next season! You only had one right, It was Merrett! Other than that you were really poor on advice! Work on your game!

Kev

Although he comes close, Patch is not Jesus (sorry mate) You don't need to take his word as gospel. Zaka was averaging 111 after round 7. Worthy of discussion imo with a full Essendon midfield next year

TRIGGER HAPPY

Well with Shiel back got a team chock full of premos this week with every premo playing and even most of the bench.
So if i get beaten it will be by the better team. No excuses.
I feel the the result may hang on the gibbo roller coaster.
Good luck to everyone and for those not in a cut throat final sit back, chill and knock the froth off a couple.

Steeeve

I'm actually throwing the E on Gibbs and starting Kade Kolo. If Gibbo goes 80+ kolo heads to the bench for my loophole

Hoot

Put the "non playing player" on the field now just in case you forget ey.

Steeeve

What will Cam McCarthy cost at full forward for Freo next year?

SCaddict

Not sure Steeeve but he's another one who will be cheap as chips too. Bennell is also another forgotten man who will be priced to clear.

M.Johnson and Bob Murphy will get tidy discounts as well although given their age you would want to see flawless preseasons from them, before even considering them.

2017 will certainly be the 'Year of the Fallen Premo' perhaps like never before!

hedski

VC will be planted firmly on the Bont Friday night.
Have some coverage this week which is nice, was expecting carnage at selection.
Going to loop Phillips with Chad can't really do much else loopwise.
Ryan Davis to McPherson was my worst trade followed by Rocky to Zaha (was good for 3 weeks)

Tony

Hi guys, I have 4 trades and 193k in bank.
Have the week off this week.
Thinking of trading buddy to Dahl this week adding another 40k to bank.
Then next week can upgrade Collins to Simpson and wines to the Bont next week. Leaves 1 trade for GF if I make it.

Good or bad move ?

Thanks guys.

pod

If you believe Dahl will outscore Buddy.. I would concentrate on the Bont he"s red hot and good VC tonight, maybe two trades this week?

Kev

With a week off I'd sit back. No real carnage this week with many of us having all 30 playing.

Could be calm before the storm

Hoot

VC Pendlebury ? ?

Doubt others will so it may pay off.

Gogzsta

It will take some big cahoonas to put the VC on Pendles, but this could be a classic case of 'fortune favours the brave'. Being a cut-throat week for many, we should be looking for that POD! I'm liking the way you're thinking and if it pays off you'll look like a genius!

Davo

With 3 trades left, get rid of wines for a premo. Then if pendles is a late out I'd flick him too. Save that last trade for an injury. Id get Sloane, Neale and Bont in that order. No use having 3 trades at this time of year. Get the best possible team you can.

Davo

Ranked in top 30 with one trade left so feel my advice is worthy of consideration. Good luck

Keenbutclueless

I would consider getting Dahl into your forward line. So Buddy out. Dahl to the fed line. Trengove down to Wills. Then any premo mid you prefer. Cripps would be my choice.

Footy123

This week I am playing an elimination final that I am not expected to win. I have 2 trades left, and one of these trades will be collins up to someone. My 3 best options in my opinion given my price range are JJ, Rampe and Tuohy. I really am only concerned about winning this week, so given that who is the best option to bring in?

johnno2908

So conflicted. This is probably the first week this season i have not hit the reverse trades button. As soon as it opened Sunday night went Pendles and Petracca to Bont and Dahl. Now Pendles has been named, surely i have to keep him?

Hawks

Stick with your gut Johnno.

Move Pendles on, even if he plays is he going to be fully fit, remember he played a few weeks injured earlier this year, and was less effective from a SC perspective, played off halfback, didnt play for the contested ball.

Bont vs Pendles is a close call if both were 100% fit, we know Pendles isnt 100%.

Davo

Need to catch up 190 points in last three weeks to get into top 10 cash territory. Can it be done?

Vc Rockliff into C Danger sounds like a plan this week

Gogzsta

Here's the scenario:
Must win games this week, projections are tight. Both opponents have Pendles and one has zero trades left. I also have Pendles and he's been named obviously. I have three trades left and $1400 in the chest.
Do I:
A) Trade Pendles and Petracca (FWD) for Dahl and Sloane (or anyone sub $559100)
B) Hold Pendles and keep three trades (if he plays)
C) Trade Pendles only for someone sub $574900

Feedback appreciated

Davo

Wait until/if pendles isnt named first. Then option A sounds great

Gogzsta

Cheers Davo… I'd actually rathe he didn't play TBH!!

Davo

Need to catch up 190 points in last three weeks to get into top 10 cash territory. Can it be done?

Davo

Dont know why this double posted sorry

johnno2908

1 week can do a lot. Going into last week i was 18th and only 1 point in front of 20th. Now i am 9th and 132 points in front of 20th, so i would say it can definitely be done. Especially with guys having little or no trades left.

Saundo

VC on Ward or JPK then C on Merrett or Danger?