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THE PANIC ROOM – Round 20

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Here we are, folks. Finals have arrived. And with it, absolute bloody carnage.

But that’s what this game is about. It takes those of us who can thrives in the fires of crisis and thrusts them onto a beautiful marble pedestal, far above the cesspit of scuffling and fighting in the mud below.

Apparently. You get a lot of these metaphors. While parallels to the trenches are uncanny, it’s more like a set of small, muddy mounds where everyone is shooting cold water and water balloons at each other instead of lead and shells.

It’s still miserable, but.

And some of us, like this humble reporter, are out of ammo. We’ve used all our water balloons, and our water pistols are running on empty.

So community, let the high stakes game of dodgeball begin.

BUT BEFORE WE DO – we’ve still got this CoachKings caper coming along in leaps and bounds and I’m so bloody proud. I’ll be down at the Vaulcuse Hotel in Richmond along with Jock, Higgo and Lek TONIGHT for Richmond vs Collingwood.

We’d be rapt if you game in, had a drink with us, played some CoachKings – and then maybe help with the search party for The Crouching One afterwards. Crouching old mate, if you’re reading this – come home, son. Although the silly twat’s probably blind drunk from sinking the nation’s rum reserves. And to be fair, if I were a Richmond supporter I’d probably join him.

THE NEWS

Tom Liberatore is gone for the season and needs to be gone from your sides. The magnificent, beautiful young stallion has run his race in our Supercoach sides for the year, and needs to be taken out to the back paddock. However, Matthew Boyd is back for the Dogs. Matthew Suckling is still out, as the notorious Suckling PiG’s Achilles is still not doing… whatever it is Achilles heels do. Crows ruckman Sam Jacobs hasn’t pulled up from his game against Essendon last week. The Big Sauce went down 10 minutes in, and the Crows will understandably take no chances with him. Hasn’t missed a game since 2012 so a huge blow to those who have him. Stef Martin is also still struggling to get up from his hip complaint and will miss this week’s game against the Crows, which leaves Archie Smith up against debutant Reilly O’Brien, who is replacing Jacobs. 

Shattering for Stef owners, who have stuck with his putrid performances all year and now have to put up with his buggered hip. It’s bloody disappointing he hasn’t been able to get up for us in finals, especially after he won us so many in 2014. Any poor bastard with a massive POD ruck setup might be hit very, very hard this week, but may welcome the news Mason Cox is back for the Pies after Darcy Moore’s hamstring let him down last week. Jordan De Goey has also been dropped. The high-leaping Nic Naitanui is BACK. Those with Scott Lycett should have another week or so as Nic Nat works his way back into the swing of things, Dylan Shiel has had done something to his groin, which may or may not have been a result ofhis extensive screwing over thousands of Supercoach teams on weekly basis for most of the year. He should miss a week, but it’s still disappointing from the man dubbed #TheRealDealDylanShiel, which my attorney advices me is the most blatant case of false advertising since the film The Never Ending Story. Essendon’s resting policy over the past month of the season is warming up with Orazio Fantasia having a spell.

However, Woosha Worsfold has said he’ll be resting players like Zach Merrett, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Darcy Parish David Zaharakis, Michael Hartley and Matty Dea over the coming weeks as Essendon ramp up their finals prepar… wait hold on.

IN BREAKING NEWS, TEAMS THAT WON’T MAKE FINALS AREN’T GIVING A STUFF ABOUT OUR FANTASY FINALS. Bastards.

Mitch McGovern and Scotty Thompson from the Crows is having a spell, which I fear Adelaide will continue to do the closer they get to ACTUALLY playing finals (you hear that, Woosha?). Sloane Ranger owners should be mildly worried.

Melbourne are to unveil another top 10 draft pick in Sam Weideman this weekend, but at the expense of Josh Wagner if anyone has him for cover.

Kane Lambert has been dropped from the Richmond side, Cyril Rioli and Tex Walker returns, Scott Selwood will play his first game for the Cats and Nick Malceski is out injured.

A word of warning as well… Sam Menegola from the Cats is in the bottom three emergencies for Sunday’s side against Essendon… double and triple check he is named before you trade him in this week!!

THE PATCH UP

The beautiful, magnificent podcast covered what to do with Tom Liberatore in depth, so I won’t cover him here, and Lekdog as always has done a majestical effort patching up around the grounds. However, our ruck lines have taken a pounding this week with Sauce Jacobs and Big Stef still out, and I’m going to have a slightly more in depth look at the ruck options if you need to trade.

I’d hold Jacobs if you’ve got cover, hold. If you don’t have cover, you need to assess how many trades you’ve got, and if you can win with a donut. If you can’t, HIT THAT T on Sauce. I’d look at ditching old mate Stefan Martin either way. . His hip’s obviously not right, and Brisbane have nothing to play for now they’re clear of the bottom. Besides, they will continue to play the impressive Archie Smith over the back end of the season in tandem with Martin when he returns.

And do we remember the last time Stefan shared rucking duties?

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Those are the four games Martin played alongside Trent West earlier in the year, and they make for sobering viewing. I don’t think Martin will play to this level, but I don’t think the resurgence we’ve seen over the past month will continue when he returns, and in the finals there can be absolutely no passengers.

So who do we bring in for him?

IN THE PREMIUM CORNER:

Obviously if you have the cash, Max Gawn is your man and then some. Genuinely surprised he hasn’t ripped someone open and feasted on their innards this season. Just pick him. Absolute jet.

If you want to punt on a returning Nic Naitanui, he’s at $521,000, some 60k more expensive than Martin. Take out his two injury affected games and he’s averaging over 114 and will be a huge POD in finals – I’d wager a large number of the 14,000 coaches that have him are your average punter who plays for half the season and forgets about the thing.

If you don’t have the cash to go that far up, Brodie Grundy is averaging 108 from his last three and is emerging as a very valid R2 option for next year, and with Richmond, the Doggies, the Hawks and the Suns to come doesn’t face a monster ruckman on the way home.

IN THE BARGAIN CORNER:

Homer

“Awww, I have three injured premiums and no money. Why can’t I have no injured premiums and three monies?”

If you’ve got absolutely no cash, you’re in a bit more of a pickle. Sam Naismith is at 270k and averaging 80, and bargain-basement Archie Smith scored a 96 on debut and should play every game from here on out. He won’t score that every week, but might hit a 75 average and give you mountains of cash if you need it, and if your plumbs are as large as Crouching Tiger’s pile of rum cans after a Richmond loss.

TRADING PLACES

Yet again, Barron von Crow’s rookie scouting report is the only place on the internet you should be looking for all the rookie news. Breakevens are no longer relevant to the large majority of Supercoachers, as there is no long term to plan for here, but if you need a cheapie, Barron is the best in the business and has you covered.

CAPTAIN McCAPTAINFACE

It’s a tough week with to pick captains with Zac Dawson suspended, but this week looks likely to pit one of Dustin Martin or Scott Pendlebury with the VC and Paddy Dangerfield as C. It’s the safe choice and should net you a 140 out of one of those three.

If you need something left field, I’m channelling my inner Barron von Crow and picking out some guys worth having a gander at. One of these blokes has the VC or the C on them this week for my side, and because I know they’ll look at The Panic Room for a hint as to who I’m picking for that crucial leg up (that’s right, Throttlefinger. I’m onto you, son.)

Dan The Man Hannebery: Averaging 112, playing Port at the Adelaide Oval. His last two against Port have been 91 and 142 (both last year), and his last two games at the Adelaide Oval have been 134 and 129, both against the Crows. Plays early Saturday arvo. Back in form after a 140 last week.

Heath Shaw: Wallopped the Suns for 143 last time they played, and a 126 in round 16 last year. Averaging 108 for the year, but only 86 in his last 5. Working his way back into form with a 129 last year, and my gut is liking this choice. The last time my gut liked Heath Shaw he scored 200.

Rory Sloane: mashed Essendon into a pulp last week with 141 and has Brisbane this week, which are only just a step above. Last week was only his 4th week above 130, mind you, but is averaging 109. With Scott Thompson having a rest he needs to do more work and can’t sit back and ride along. Some would be worried about the lack of Sauce, but Jacobs was being soundly beaten by Luenberger before he got injured a few minutes into the second, and the Sloane Ranger had no issue racking up the big numbers.

Sam Docherty: Also with only the 4 scores over 130, but playing on the wide expanses of the MCG, which he loves. Scored 141 against the Saints last time, and his last game on the Hallowed Turf of the MCG led to a 138 against the Eagles. I’m firmly in Lek’s camp – this kid can play and will be my first picked in defence next year.

That’s it for me, community! Best of luck to all of you as we saunter on bravely into finals season – except anyone I’m coming up against this week, of course!

As for me, I’ve got to knuckle down and prepare my CoachKings side for tonight because I’m bloody shocking. Get on down, have a drink and meet Jock, Higgo, Lek and myself. See you all at the Vaucluse Hotel in Richmond!

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Steeeve

Jack Trengove killing it in the Bs, not even one of Melbourne's three emergencies?!? They want to get rid of him but why not play him and try to increase his value?
This is known as the John Butcher maneuver.

Patch

Agree with you, mate. Any Melbourne supporters around who might have a clue as to why he's in the twos?

Steeeve

I know a couple of people who played school footy with him. The Dees told him this year is his last chance with them. I'm thinking they figure it will be easier to cut/trade him if he can't get a game.

Westy

Wouldn't they want to show off what he can do and maximise his price if they're going to trade him

Steeeve

Exactly what I'd think, the Butcher maneuver lol.
But it's also hard to cement a former captain in your best 22 then tell him he's not getting another contract.

Kev

What's he done to be on his last chance?

Steeeve

Just because he's had so long on the sidelines with his foot. It was a "we can't keep paying you if you can't get on the park" type deal.

Jackson

Few Melb supporters I know reckon they lack speed and unfortunately he's one of the slow ones

Steeeve

Yeah a bunch of foot fractures can do that

Mick

1 midfield position to fill. It's between Sloane & Kennedy . Who to pick? Sloane has an easy run home but worried he could be rested . Kennedy I know will play but have Parker & hanners, is that too many swans?

Cameron

Why would having 3 swans in your midfield be a problem anyway?

Derek

having 3 swan midfielders is getting a few to many eggs in one basket. as Cameron said, why is this a problem… it can be if swans have a bad day, you are then over exposed.

ie round 21 last year, cats had a very bad day against the pies.

i do love JPK, but i would be getting Sloane. This week alone he will be worth it.

Mick

Thanks Derek , like you I love him too & have had him the last 4/5 yrs . Appreciate your thoughts. Ps. I'm going Pendles into danger for me

Mick

Even though Kennedy has been in great form of late, I'm Just a bit worried he has more players who could stand up & pinch points off him as earlier in the year , as opposed to Sloane who has less competition for the points. Cheers Cameron , thoughts appreciated.

The Ranger

Flip a coin Mick!
Derek raises a valid point re having three Swans and you flagged another valid point re Sloane getting a rest.

Mick

Thanks ranger for yr input, it's a tough choice @ this point. I'm playing for league win, will have 2 trades left after this trade, & fortunate enough to have the double chance. Good luck too all this w/ end & appreciate all yr thoughts.

Matt

Pretty simple.
Which midfielder do you believe will score the most points over the next 4 rounds?

Get that midfielder.
Don't worry about sharing points.
What does your gut say?
If you think JPK will be the highest scoring mid not in your team get him.

Mick

Still a close call

Patch

Personally would go Kennedy. Will play every game on the run home.

JB_Tank

I'm confused as to the constant talk of players being rested… there is a week off for everyone after Round 23. Resting prior to that could be detrimental, especially for top 4 sides that could have a further week off if they win the first final. Players want to be battle hardened going into finals, not find themselves suddenly shocked at the intensity because they've played twice in the 5 weeks prior. The case for resting players in finals bound teams makes no sense at all to me.

Locked and Loaded

JPK!! And i love Sloane but JPK is something else atm

Crowmagnon

There is no week off for teams playing in finals. Round 23 ends 28th august, finals start 2nd September.
Teams WILL rest players.

JB_Tank

Sorry to say u are wrong sir. http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-29/afl-fixture-n

Crowmagnon

I stand corrected. Perhaps my family are right when they say I need glasses.

guest

no way will sloane be rested. The crows are one of the teams chasing percentage right now as the top 4 position will come down to it, and they are tight with geelong.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Patch probably 1-2 zingers short of last week's patch up which was gold class but still good stuff.
Set the bar high with that one.

Another VC left field option who is shining brightly as I don't have pendles is the beard.
Warming to big maxy this is why.

Last 2 games against the Hawks Ave 116.
Last time they played Gawn had 50 hit outs for 115 SC points with only 8 disposals.
If Maxy gets around the ground more (his Avg disposal is 14) then that should give him a score of 130-140 which he is more than capable of.

With Oliver coming in gives maxy another option to palm down to and increase his SC output.

more I think about it the more it makes sense.
hawks rucks could be GAWN!

Matt

Pretty valid case.
Needs consideration.

Derek

i like the option. i had VC on Max last week, he was about 80 at half time but only ended up with just over 100. I think he went forward and didn't see the ball in the third quarter.

The two hawks bigmen are playing well, and are spending alot of time at full forward, max will be dragged into defence a fair bit which might be a good thing

Patch

Have had a massive week so it is undoubtedly below last week's efforts. I looked at Gawn, but there's just something about the MCG. I like your logic, but my gut just isn't sold, especially after his effort last week.

Dan

How bout Gawn as VC? Got to pick someone before the GC game as my loop plays for them. Dusty's de% is killing him if was to have 70% tonight could go huge…

oliver

4 trades left and a full side this week for once. Forward line is still a weak spot, so going to put Wingard on the pine as an emergency and play Hall, then if Wingard spuds it up trade Hall to Dahlhaus.

Derek

good plan

Steeeve

Winged will have a tough go of it against the Swans. But then he has Melbourne, Adelaide (he plays well in Showdowns) and finally Gold Coast.

oliver

Hoping he can put together some decent scores in upcoming weeks. Even some consistency would be nice, also have Montagna and Greene who both seem to yoyo a lot with scoring.

Patch

Love your thinking Ollie

liam

Great article! Look forward to it each Friday.

Good a dilemma, Need to get rid of Steffy Martin…. (Have 510k)
?
Do I Go Martin>Goldstein or Martin>Grundy

Or any other ruck options! (have gawn)

Kev

If you're in an elimination final Grundy is a nice pod

Matt

Pretty simple.
Who do you believe will score the most points over the next 4 rounds?

Get that Ruckman.

Andrew

Not sure on a VC option this week
Dusty, Pendles, Parker, Hanners or Shaw?
I currently have it on Shaw at the moment

Mick

Pendles for me Andrew as I've always considered him to be 2nd most reliable sc scorer to Ablett . But Fyfe did take over for a short time .

Tim

In a qualifying final this week with 1 trade left. Play Petracca and hope to get the week off next week and have a trade for prelim or trade Deledio and have 0 trades left? Cheers.

Mick

Depends on yr cover ? Play Petracca . In my opinion he's been serviceable & keep the trade for your do or die match in the coming weeks.

Patch

In a qualifying I'd hold this week, Tim

Riley

need some help here i have stef
is goldy still injured?
Back in goldy or punt with nic nat?

Tagger

same dilemma

Dean

I would be going NICNAT

Goldy is carrying a injury, he has been carrying it for quite a wile now.

Patch

You'd almost be better off trying to get Naismith in the forward line to cover both of them Riley old mate, but if you're gonna trade Nic Nat is where my money is this week.

Hawks

Appreciate the communities thoughts.

I have a full premo team, only slight worry is Josh Kennedy (WCE), but I have no active bench.

I have 4 trades remaining, and finished 5th in my money league. Only $15k cash

Do I sit tight (no trades), and hope to win this week, in what should be a close match-up, and should injuries occur in the SC finals, trade premo to premo

or

Trade 1-2 bench players to rookie active players, with the view to spending my 2nd last trade getting Dahlhaus next week to loophole either forward or mid, thus not gambling so much of Josh Kennedy's output.

Appreciate you thoughts, I'm favoring holding tight at this stage.

Mick

I'd sit tight for this week at least, as he's against freo & see if he hits form. I've got him too , but a chance to go big. HOPE!

Derek

JJK will do ok this week

Tagger

Naismith and Merrett/Betts/Dahlhouse

or

Goldstein and Naismith (Fwd)

Patch

The first, Tagger

Danno

Daniel Rich or Jason Johannisen for D6? Only got 415k

pod

Oh, and now Rich is being considered D6.. where am I ?

Patch

JJ, Danno

Andrew

Worth trading Tmitch for hannes?

Tony

Hi Patch. What's your thoughts on my forward line mate. Martin, Zorko, Buddy, Greene, Wells, Josh Kennedy Montagna and Markov. Can't loophole as all playing – so who do think I should have on the bench apart from Markov? Also I'm putting VC on Sloane into Danger

Patch

Well I reckon you can give one of them to me! On recent form I'd go JJK.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Can you dpp with your mids?
Do u have a weak link there u can put on the bench?

I N Pieman

Running out of superlatives for ya Patch. Bang up job my man. Why can't I play someone this week that has Stef or Sauce. Buugger

Nervous Coach

Quality work again Patch. Need to get rid of Libba – who would you recommend out of Dalhous, Bartel, Clay Smith, Motlop, Wines or any other option. I'm holding Jacobs as I have Naismith as cover. If Naismith doesn't do the job then I will trade Jacobs. If he doesn't should I trade Trengrove or Phillips (Coll) to have bench coverage in the mid field.
VC – Pendles, Sloane or Gawn.

Thoughts!!!

Patch

Reckon the Dahl will deliver the goods for you Nervous, although you could do far worse than Motlop. Like your thinking in the rucks, Naismith more than holding his own there

Nervous Coach

Thanks Patch. Worried about Motlop's consistency and if he will be rested particularly if the Cats are safe in the top 4 although very tempting as same price as Libba. Thoughts on VC and trading Trengrove/Phillips if I don't have to trade Jacobs.

Patch

Dahl over Motlop mate.

II'd hold on Trengrove/Phillips until you need the cover to save the trade

NorthMelb

For libba who would be best out of Mundy, Ebert and Bartel

pod

Mundy if Sandilands back

Patch

Mundy

Gogzsta

Best D6 option for $393,800 less??

hedski

Big decision community.
I'm in 2 $ leagues, the smaller one I'm top 4 so double chance but the bigger one is elimination.
Have Hall and Sucklingpig on the pine, looks like Rug might not get a gig so will have to play Collins and Petracca but that leaves me no mid cover.
Only one trade left so thinking Hall to Dahl as I reckon Suckers will be back before Hall, that way I can swing Trac into mids as cover.
Have to decide by tonight because I have to swing Phillips (pies).
Any wisdoms welcome cheers.

Patch

If you want the cash you've got to go for it – I'd pull the trigger myself

hedski

Thinking that. I could loop petracca in fwds and if he spuds bring in Dahl and if he goes good hold fire but bit suss on no mid cover.
Bugger it all in.

Buddy Love

I don't know what Tom Philips needs to do to get a game in the 1's, mind you he's been in hospital with leather poisoning the last few weeks.

DJE972

Issue community.
Have big Stef in my side and Naismith for cover.
Do I –
a) Trade big Stef to Gawn/Nic Nat type and leave Naismith in fwd/ruc bench; or
b) Keep Stef in the hope he returns, play Naismith as Goldy's partner in the ruc and trade in Dalhouse for Collins via DPP to swing into Fwd line?
I'm leaning towards B…

DJE972

Oh, and 1 trade remaining…after this trade will be zilch

Kev

Hold him. Naismith is no slouch.

Though with one trade left I'd hold it to cover any season ending injuries.

Patch

Keep Stef – I'd go plan B if you've got Naismith

OzSonic

Have Libba and Sauce with 3 trades and $78, 500

Option 1. Trade Libba to someone like Dahlhaus, Ebert or Motlop. (My order of preference) Sauce covered by Lycett in Fwd Line
Option 2. Downgrade Libba to rookie, trade Sauce to Gawn leaving $216K to spend on one trade.
Option 3 . Advice. I've been going back and forward on this so many times.

I did finish 3rd so have the double chance but would prefer to have a week off than play another final.

Kev

Option 1.

Libba gone for sc season. Sauce is a luxury trade that you don't need to do

Patch

Libba out. If you've got cover for Sauce, hold.

luke

laird or boyd?

Patch

Laird for mine

red

Libba & Lids to Hanners & Motlop

Davo

Nice trades but expect ups and downs with Motlop. He's a decent choice imo

tom

Brodie Grundy and Gunston for Stef Martin and Libba
or

Gawn and Touk Miller/Ebert for Stef Martin and Libba?

Davo

Tough. Can you afford anyone better?

Would almost be tempted to get the best forward possible and some cover like naismith until stef is back if money is that tight

Dean

This is my current Midfield:

Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Parker, Ward, Steven, Wines, Libber

I want to trade Libba and can afford any midfielder, my query is, for those like myself who have Hanners & Parker would it be worth bringing in JPK or would you suggest another midfield?

I like Selwood but I am scared something chronic that he will be rested and with 3 Sunday games it makes it almost impossible for changes IF it happened.

I'm thinking either Sloane, JPK, Selwood. Any others to consider?

Your thoughts and advice is SERIOUSLY appreciated.

Derek

having 3 swan midfielders is getting a few to many eggs in one basket. as Cameron said, why is this a problem… it can be if swans have a bad day, you are then over exposed.

ie round 21 last year, cats had a very bad day against the pies.

i do love JPK, but i would be getting Sloane. This week alone he will be worth it

Dean

Cheers mate, yeah I think 3 of the top midfielders in the one team can be a problem although he is pumping out decent scores regardless. I think I will stick with my first choice Sloan.

Davo

Selwood is a great choice and finishes well. Dont think he will be rested given cats run for the top 4.

Jpk is performing very well and that wont change no matter who you have in your team. Very good option too.

Both great choices but think jpk by a nose

Don't Blush Baby

Heaps of C & VC options with a good spread of the usual players that get used , too many actually :

At this stage I'm going – Sloane into Danger, but may change Danger to Priddis against Freo, dunno

Davo

Danger into priddis is smart choice if you have a non-playing bench player on Sunday

Maxy Gawn

Bartel and Treloar or JJ and someone under 570k (Sloane, Neale, Ward, Bont)?

Stavros

Bartel and Treloar…..cats nice run home and Treloar is a gun!

Patch

Agree with Starvos Maxy!

Leeds17

I'd be pretty tempted to go Tay Adams over Treloar.

Tony

Hi Patch. With Jacobs not playing do you think will have any effect on Sloan's sc scoring??

Patch

Jacobs went down 10 minutes into the second quarter last week and it didn't stop him swarming to 140. If the Crows were up against Sandi or Geelong it would, but not against Archie Smith

osei3619

Curnow or Cotchin???

thänks guŷs

Patch

Reckon Cotchin, Osei!

John

Vc on pendles or JPK?

pod

I'd slap it on Pendles John

Davo

Jpk as a pod who is performing at top level lately

Jules

Do I play Dahlhaus on field or Naismith

John

Loophole them

Davo

Dahlhaus! ! He's named on the ball too. 100+ is likely

Jules

Can't loophole unfortunately both my donuts play tonight

Shake n bake

Why oh why is Grimley named!!!!

johnno2908

Makes loopholing harder

Shake n bake

Especially for me can't have Sloane vc danger capt and as my fwd loophole!

Juzzy

Lol 🙂
Yep. He has sat on my bench the whole year without getting a run at it. No cover, no cash generation. Now when he is desperately needed as a loophole he buggers that up too.
Kinda funny ..

Richie Porte

Mundy or Treloar fellas

Dangermouse

Dahlaus or Zorko… The extra coin doesn't matter for last spot in fwd line.

Dangermouse

Need to trade tonight cos it's lids out…

pod

Dahl looked good early v cats, maybe needed a run, ready to go all game

Dean

get zorko Mate, much more consistent. Dont even think about the trade.

Trev F

Trade in Motlop and Merret or Motlop and Dahlause

pod

Motlop Dahl

johnno2908

Dahlhaus. Merrett a very good chance to be rested for "tiredness". Doggies lots of injuries should see Dahlhaus score well.

Dean

The two "M's" No brainer.

Pete

During the finals can we trade players in and out just as we have all season, or do the trades have to be done prior to the first game of the round starting?

johnno2908

Petracca or Lycett on ground? Cannot loophole because Grimley is named this week…

Locked and Loaded

Petracca… Nic Nat back will share ruck load and Petracca is a gun even if he is playing the Hawks

Tony

Thoughts on who I should make captain in my draft league Dusty Buddy Parker or Gawn. Please help

Adsy

League win only.
Double chance (finished second)
4 trades left.
Thinking Menegola for Libba then I can get rid of Lids for nearly anyone mid or fwd via DPP. (Dustin Martin up forward or possibly JPK, Sloane etc in the mids)
Thoughts? Should I double side-grade instead (Libba to Ebert, Motlop, I.Smith & Lids to Rioli, Riewoldt, Greene, Westhoff etc)

Tommo09

Does anyone else play Perfect 9?
I sometimes forget it because I am focusing on Classic
I love it, so fun
Like last years prizes though

CoachDamo

Thinking Pendlebury as VC, but tempted to throw it on Max Gawn instead. Who's everyone else going with?

Dean

Dusty as VC as he will score MASSIVE tonight, I can feel it in my scrotum and that's rarely wrong.

Moustachio

How did the scrote pull up mate, bit sore?

Nervous Coach

I have gone Peddles as VC also but thinking about switching to Sloane.

Dean

Pendles as VC tonight I dont like, he wont score over 85. lol

Andy

Heater VC to Danger C if that stuffs up, am liking Max though

Top hawk

Pendlebury VC tonight for me. It's SC finals footy, and superstars tend to fire to fit the occasion!

CoachDamo

Didn't go Max – my opponent did! Dammit!

Trixymills

Got 4 trades left do I burn two to get docherty and have McVeigh as a loop hole emergency or stick with McVeigh on ground and save trades. Only worried about league not overall .

billo

Save 'em mate.

One Touch Wonder

SMartin to DogDog. SHARK MOVE.

terry

not really a shark move if the person you are trading out is injured or not playing. Its more a ''common sense" move.

Moustachio

Sharks can have common sense too :p

hedski

Righto fellas I've fired my last shot.
Hall to Dahl, in a must win so it's all or nothing.
Final team is.

Shaw Doch Simmo (Rug)
Gibbo Laird Collins (Suckpig)

Danger Jelwood Priddis (Petracca)
Parker Gray Treloar (Trengove)
Bont Ward (Jansen)

Goldy Gawn (Loersch)

Dusty Zorko Dahl (Phillips)
Montagna Chad Zerret (Skinner)

VC'd Treloar into Danger/Jelwood.
Good luck in the finals everyone (not DontBlushBaby playing you in league of losers).
DangrsDanglBerries will prevail!!!
Ahh glug glug.

Steeeve

Pendles VC 10 possie first quarter, TWO posse second.
Lift you good thing!

That said I'm projected to win my league games. We all know that means very little. But one thing it does mean is I can afford to stick with Danger C. Let my opponents take the risks.

Dean

Dead in the water in the last.

Collingwood Fan

Disgusted that Pies are going to keep Buckley next year! He is an absolute shit Coach and waste's his players talents like Pendles! I cant wait til he's gone, have to wait another torturous year! Bucks you suck and I hate you and cant wait til you are gone sincerely a Pies fan!

Nervous Coach

Agree with you 100 per cent. Last time I checked the game was called Football. If he wants a team that handballs all time he should be in Rio. Pendles should in the guts all the time. Bucks does not understand that his game plan does not work as it is too high risk. Hope the second half is better but Bucks should be under the same scrutiny as Hardwick.

Collingwood Fan

Wish Buckley got killed by his kid and not Walshy would have been justified! FCK Buckley I hope you get killed in a car crash on ur way home tonight you piece of sh*it! FCK YOU! EAT SH*T AND ROT IN HELL!!!

Boydo

You sir should be banned from the Internet, phones, tablets, computers and any other form of communication

Steeeve

This comment has to go holy moly

Dean

It's people like this who spit in your face while at the footy coz they cannot handle reality. Get over it Shittinwood Fan or Splinter Arse.

It's the entire Collingwood side that needs to GO due to their deplorable fans.

Blues

I feel sorry for you. This is a really sick way of getting attention. Jock give him a chance to apologise. If he doesn't find out who it is and blacklist him.

Dave2008

Jock for the integrity of this awesome site you have to ban that moron. He is against everything we stand for here as a community. And this is coming from a Pies man who wonders sometimes what is Buckley doing but Mick cost us any chance of the 2011 premiership with his terrible coaching on game day. And we have been smashed with injuries since 2010. Player error cost the win against Richmond who came to play but we gave them so many goals. Disgusting comment Collingwood Fan may we never read your ISIS like comments again on this great site

Dean

In Menengola going to be dropped for all of Geelongs inclusions?

poloko48

Pendles has gone straight down the tunnel, left ankle issue.

johnno2908

Pendles putting a spanner in the works of the SC season! Not a great start to the week considering my opponent does not have him.

Steeeve

Same here. But in the unlikely event he's out for the year it could actually be okay for me because I still have four trades. Plenty will be stuck with him.

johnno2908

Yeah, also got 4 trades. Was going to go ruggles down to non playing rookie to free up some cash. Now not so certain.

Tim

HOULI!!!!!!!! That's why I stuck by you all those weeks you were out. Actually Collins, Tucker and Adams is why I stuck by you all those weeks you were out but still thank you for tonight

Moustachio

How many points do you think it cost you keeping Houli on the pine ^^

Tim

Good point. However I'm going for a league win and still finished top 4 (was 3 games clear 5th by the end of the byes). And I was able to field a full backline the full time so it wasn't a massive issue. More luck than anything.

Dean

Pendles done for the season it seems, shit now I have to reassess my trades for the season, think I might hold the Libba trade and play Dunkley as my M8 – I only have $412k left, and 3 trades. Then bring in Dahalahus for Libba next week.h

He Man

Do we take Martin's 123 or go Dangerfield Captain?

poloko48

I'm taking the points, knowing my luck Danger will do a Pendles if I don't….

Liam

Gawn or Sloane captain after Pendles failed me.

pod

anyone else besides those two? Gawn v Hawks and Sloane v Robinson

Nervous Coach

Sloane for me -just

Derek

I brought Rance in this week. I still have BSmith & Rich at D6 & D7.

Lions and Crows play each other this week, can't loophole, so who plays?

Steeeve

Rich is in form and the Crows don't have a good tagger. But jeez you'll be sweating picking him…

SCaddict

Think you have to go with the form guy in Rich and hope he doesn't cop a super hard tag. Smith has really shown nothing all season with just 2 tons. The ball should be in the Lions back half a helluva lot too.

This assumes that all other things are equal. Nuances in your league situations may mean the Smith is the preferred option but generally speaking I'd go Rich but would make sure you're wearing your lucky jocks Saturday night. 🙂

Dean

3 trades was initially going to paint the fence with Mathison to Menegola the Libba to Sloane or Sellwood. However now that Pendles is injured im thinking whether I should still do that and then use my last trade on Pendles if he is out for over 2 weeks?

Or do I not trade this week and play Dunkley as M8?

PLEASE advice greatly appreciated.

Dean

Sorry forgot to mention if I just trade Libba i only have $412k if only I had $422k id get Dahlhaus but I can't unless i wait another week. Bloody tough call, im top 4 in all my leagues.

I'm so confused, I have NEVER been this confused playing SC in the past few years.

HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Derek

Only 3 trades you should hold. Wait for next week and get Dalhaus. All is good. Breath…..

I N Pieman

Plums are out & going Libba to Scully! Hope it works out

SCaddict

Niiiiice POD!

Plums will indeed be bright orange this arvo. He should tear up the Suns you'd think.

james

take dusty's 123 or go with JPK or Danger

Cameron

Take it

pod

I'm up against stronger opponent in 1 v 4 match in one of my leagues, which option do you prefer? My opponent doesn't have Buddy, Neale or Sloane. Sloane will probably get Robinson tag. How big can Buddy go against depleted Power Def? I like Neale on Sunday as a safety net for below ave. from Danger (last meet v Bombers 99 points) I'd appreciate any insight or thoughts, cheers.
1. Buddy VC & Danger C
2. Sloane VC & Danger C
3. Danger VC & Neale C

pod

forget #3. can't be done.. i'm going #1.

Nervous Coach

Who should I have on the field in D8 out of Yeo, KK or Collins. Unfortunately, can't loophole any one as they are all playing.

hedski

I'd give the yoyo a crack out of those 3.

Kev

Here come the injuries! Pendles last night, Buddy iced up, Gibbo sore ankle, Hodge sore groin

SCaddict

Gray seemed a little hindered too with just the 7 touches today.

Steeeve

How bad did Gibson look?

Dave2008

My question is do you think Dalihaus can score about as much as Sloane this Rd?

I am in a tight contest in my league q final and one of the gun mids that he has is Sloane.
4 trades 59 k so
Dalihaus or any mid 442 or 480K and uner for Libba or Yeo 1 trade

Sloane for Libba and Yeo for Mengola 2 trades 200k

Locked and Loaded

Brad Crouch? How much is he?

Dave2008

Yep he works. So it's whether it's worth the risk with him v Sloane this week. With bloody Gawn the thorn in my side (who I couldn't afford because of multiple injury holes this year )going huge and McDonald coupled with another insipid performance from never to be picked again Birchall I may need max points from this trade

Dean

Dont get B Crouch if your hoping to get a player to score similar to Sloane coz it wont happen.

Go Libba to Dahlhaus and again I doubt he will score as high as Sloan.

Locked and Loaded

Dean, hate to say I was right… Hope you went with Crouch Dave

Dave2008

Yep good call but would not have got me home and better to lose and save two trades than use them as well

Dean

If Hanners is your VC, wound you take his 130?

Or roll the dice with Danger?

Derek

Take it

Joe

I have 3 trades left, and with Naismith getting an average score, I'm considering trading Stef now to NicNat to hope for a huge one (my main opponent has Goldy). I also have Gray and Gibbo who aren't doing great as well. Thoughts community?

Dean

If u have Pendleburry hold and dont trade.

Nervous Coach

Do I take Naismith's score of 71 or do I trade Jacobs to Goldy.

Dean

take it

Nervous Coach

Thanks Dean. My opponent has Goldy and if he produces a Gawn like score I could be in trouble given that I am in an elimination final.

Tommo09

I love you Max Gawn!!!

Dave2008

Can't stand him as I had so many injuries had to go a cheaper option .

SCaddict

Yep thank you VCery much Big Maxy!

TRIGGER HAPPY

You magnificent bearded beast.
GAWN GET SOME.
Called it early, VC hanging around his neck.
Happy days.
Makes up for the port boys.

john

Did not have a non playing player late enough in the round to let me do the Bearded on VC. Absolutely spewing!

Richard

Well done everyone who had VC or C on big Max

Derek

Gray, Pendles, Wingard, Buddy… The weekend hasn't started the way I was hoping

Liam

Anyone know how long Pendles is going to be out for ?

Matt

Season

Steeeve

Confirmed??

CoachDamo

Does anyone know if Stefan Martin is done for the season or back next week?

League match up is tight – I can take Naismith's 73 or trade Martin to Goldy (to negate my opponent). Not sure what to do!

Neverweaken

Stuffed up my VC loophole and have Sloane VC into Danger. But have no non players left to swap. So who to captain. Sloane or danger

Steeeve

If expecting to win your league match, Danger. Let your opponent take the risk. If you're behind, take the punt.

Nervous Coach

I have the same dilemma except I have Jacobs instead. My opponent has Goldy also. You would think Goldy would score more than Naismith. If you have the double chance then I would hold but if not (like me) then I would trade.

roger

NORTH MELBOURNES SEASON
GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PRETENDERS
AFTER BEATING NON 2 TOP 8 TEAMS THEY HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT AGAIN..JUST A TERRIBLE TEAM OF FRONT RUNNERS

SCaddict

Hopefully no one had to field Clay Smith this week. A huge stain in the undies with the unfortunate concussion in the 1st qtr.

MY TWO CENTS

I was looping smith and petrecca.
As petrecca only scored 60 put Smith on the ground.
Sometimes this game plain sux.

FlyingHawkAssassin

Captain on Docherty or Priddis to try to win against my opponent who has danger as captain

Connor

Someone tell me how M. Boyd scores higher than R. Laird

Leeds17

Laird had 25 Handballs majority of them uncontested

Moustachio

CD value not being able to get away from your opponent and so unnecessarily contesting the ball, over running into clear space so that your team can actually move forward without making turnovers.

Leeds17

Liked Crows SC finals draw and went with Sloane and Lynch last week, was feeling a bit sick about Lynch after his 70odd but repaid me this week.

SCaddict

Yes SC finals draws can often give you handy advantage. I loaded up with Swans (Hanners, Parks, JPK, Titch) and Cats mids (Danger, Jelwood) looking for a similar edge in the finals. Working out so far with 481 from my 4 Swans.

If only bloody Brad Crouch played like he is now at the start of the season before most of us traded his arse out. One of the many trades I no longer possess. 🙁

Boltons BLues

Alright lads, ive got 2 decent games going on, 1 closer then the other let me here your thoughts

(my players on the left, his on the right)

League 1 – (pretty much bragging rights, no money

Montanga vs Motlop
Merrett vs Bartel
Cripps vs Mundy
Neale and Priddas vs 124 point lead

I should win that, winner gets the week off

League 2 – $300 for the eventual winner

Cripps vs Gibbs
Neale vs Bartel
Priddas vs Jelwood
im 7 points in front, same amount of players left, thats a close one, winner also gets the week off

How am i looking? Captain picks are the same right now, league 2 has Rockcliff VC, could take that 120, but doubt it

john

in game two.

Cripps and Gibbs is a toss of the coin
Neale should smash Bartel on recent numbers
Priddis v Jelwood should be close but I have a funny feeling Essendon will play Jelwood into form and a 150+ score. They need %.

going to be a very close one for you.

wombatsfc

Ya got me again Lek! Libba to Ebert what a great move you forgot to mention that he's the tagger at Port arrrgh. I further compounded the situation by doing like you said and traded Brodie Smith to Heath Shaw and, as if that wasn't enough your love from a couple of weeks back kept on giving and Clay Smith also paid off, for my opponent

Blue

I feel for you.
I was thinking of getting Ebert and Smith too.

oliver

90 point lead, Simpson and Steven up against Docherty, Merrett and Priddis. Think i might just get pipped, but could be a close one.

oliver

also my opponent and i both have Danger as captain, would it be worth the risk putting the C on Steven? Probably leaning against it at this moment, but he does have the capability of going huge (or spudding it up).

dave2008

Is it worth using two trades to bring in Selwood to try to win my QF in my league game for Yeo. I am up by 219 with Yeo and Monty left and he has Simpson Doc Priddis Collins Z Merret . I am thinking hold my 4 trades as it would be far worse losing and using 2 trades.

Richard

I would hold your trades.If you go under you have another chance.The odds are looking against you winning this week.I also have 4 trades left for the possibility of injuries and late outs

dave2008

yep good call i was going to trade sloane in for libba and yeo with menegola but even that might not have got me thru

Tommo09

16 (C)/1869 with Danger, Priddis, Doch, Simpson, Neale, Riewoldt to come
Below par I assume

Richard

Surely you will get 2500 + this round.I would have thought 2300-2400 would be par.All depends on Danger i reckon.Did you have VC on Gawn ?

Tommo09

Yep
Opponent has Danger C
That makes me worry

johnno2908

Lots of poor scores this week from the Port and Hawthorn boys. Chuck in Heath Shaw, Pendles etc into that mix and i think you are going alright. In saying that, there are some big scores from popular players as well, so im thinking par will be around 2400. As Richard says, a lot depends on Danger today, assuming there will be quite a few relying on him to pump out a good captains score.

john

I am about 100 behind you but have danger as captain along with Bartel, kerridge, priddis, selwood and monty to go. Assuming Danger has a 120 odd I suspect we will finish up around the same on 2500ish

Zoomer

Do I take Sloane's 137 or take a punt on Danger for C. In main league opponent has C on Danger. I am only projected to win by 40. I have Jelwood to play Opponent has Cripps Kerridge Enright and Neale so could be close

Northernsoul74

Take it, great captains score.

hedski

Jeez community spot of bother, both cash leagues.
1. (Non elimination)
My Joey + Priddis vs his Menegola + 114 points.

2. (Elimination)
My Simmo Joey Zerret Priddis Collins vs his Hickey Bartel + 298 points.

We all have the captain planted on Danger.
Guess I'm gonna have to see how the first game pans out and maybe take a chance on Jelwood or Priddis as captain….aaarrgh.

Richard

You should be ok with No.1 You would hope Collins has a decent score 80-90.I would stay with Danger as C and ride your luck with the others.

Nicholas

Priddis or Docherty as captain community?
Need one of them to score big and danger to have a week game to win my league match

john

Priddis with nicnat back

Derek

I'm doing same

Nicholas

Yeh I am going Priddis over Neale. Am happy with how quiet Danger is so far