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THE PANIC ROOM – Round 18

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Hells PatchCoachKingsLogobells, community.

Here I was, trying to sneak in ahead of time due to my very busy Friday, and cheekily write the intro to this week’s panic room as “a few light holes, but no major news” before the teams came out.

Oops.

Admittedly the carnage isn’t incredibly widespread, but it will hit some teams very, very deeply and I can’t help but feel partly responsible.

I’m sorry.

It’s the penultimate week for league games before finals kick off in round 20, so if you need to make some drastic moves to catapult yourself into the eight, make those bold moves. Have a gander at other blokes’ sides. It’s now or never for your shot at glory.

But, on with the hastily-written, bleary-eyed show!

THE NEWS

Brett Deledio will in fact miss this week with a calf complaint. He was a will-he, won’t-he conundrum for much of the week, but I reckon we consign him to the injury riddled basket. He won’t be out for long, mind you, but I’d consider moving him on if you had the trades.

Speaking of the injury-riddled, never again basket, Michael Barlow has given us the finger he injured a few weeks ago and raised us a shoulder. Out for the year, but as Lek said this week in his majestical cheat sheet, until he moves clubs he’s a never again prospect.

On top of this, we lose Jarryd McVeigh to a groin complaint. Hopefully he’s missing as more of a precaution against the Blues, and we see him back next week. However, we do gain another MID/DEF DPP in the form of Jimmy Bartel.

Adelaide also give us the gift of Rory Laird this week, so we should be able to field six.

Rocket Eade seems to be taking notes from the Ross Lyon Book of Arseholery, as we see Aaron Hall missing again this week. I mean to be slightly fair to Rocket, Hall does apparently have a hamstring niggle, but I mean…. *marge groan*

Bulldog midfielder Tom Liberatore returns for the Dogs, but he replaces Jake Stringer in their lineup. Libba has been named in the forward pocket, however. If I were a Libba owner, I’d be concerned by this development.

Essendon will finally unveil their top 10 pick Aaron Francis against the Lions. I am keen as a bean to see him in action after he’s torn the VFL a new one over the last few weeks. Give him a week before we trade him in, but CoachKings LOCK on Sunday arvo.

Jack Steele will miss for the Giants with a hand complaint, Shane Savage returns for the Saints, Hayden Ballantyne misses and The Pav gets a rest in the best of the rest.

Refer a CoachKings Mate

LOCK YOUR COACHKINGS 9 MAN TEAM IN NOW

THE PATCH UP

I’m going to talk briefly about cover in this week’s Patch Up, which is nice because I’ll discuss literally patching up your side for the first time ever! Only taken us two years, but here we go!

How much cover should our fantasy sides have? Well, as much as possible, but that’s the cheap answer. Besides, if you’ve got a mid-bench of Callan Ward, Adam Treloar and Leigh Montagna, you’re a hacker extraordinaire, not a fantasy footballer.

Right – so in an ideal world, most Supercoachers aim for a cheap premium on the bench on each line. These are often players you started with but didn’t live up to expectations, such as your Shannon Hurn or Ollie Wines; mid pricers a rung below premium like Brad Crouch or Tom Liberatore; fallen premos like Heath Shaw; or your cheap as chips cover like rookies you might not have the trades to cull, like Walla or Marcus Adams.

So ideally, one of these on each line would give you four almost premiums on your bench, plus a rookie or two floating around.

But very, very few of us live in an ideal world. Some men and women can reach this ethereal realm, but most cannot. Like this poor bastard.

Look at this poor Supercoach bastard

Fun fact, that’s a selfie. So, what do we do?

DPPs. Bloody love the things. With decent DPP links you can have one sub-par premo and one playing rookie covering all four lines, which is why we love dicking around with blokes like Matt Sucking, Clay Smith and Scott Lycett. So, Imma give you the players who I consider to be the best cover you’d look to trade in.

Keep in mind, you’d want at least four trades left after trading these guys in.

Scott Lycett [RUC/FWD] has the mantle as #1 ruck at the Eagles with NicNat down, and with Goldy getting more and more concerning with each passing game, the DPP would be a very nice addition to a forward line. At 423k, he’s cheap, averaging 90 (94 from his last 3)

Concerns: On the downside, he has a penchant for doing stupid things, like picking up club-imposed sanctions or being looked at by the MRP.

Matt Suckling [DEF/FWD] stood up for the Dogs this season in the absence of Bob and Johanissen. Has missed 4 with injury, and has had two very poor games, but as bench coverage he’s very nice. His average is only listed at 70, but take the game where he got injured out of the equation and it floats to 86, which is a very handy F/D7.

Concerns: Can go missing in games, with a 30-odd and a 50-odd in his last two months.

Clay Smith [MID/FWD] has come back from three knee reconstructions, and in three games as two 90s and an 80. Looks a force up forward, and probably won’t average 90, but has shown he has the capacity to push up towards the ton. Only 294k.

Concerns: Dahlhaus’ return might shake the side up. While I don’t see him losing his spot, I’m not sure what the impact will be.

Pearce Hanley [MID] isn’t a DPP, but he is a 400k former premium who may be playing himself back into form. After an up and down year, in which he was averaging 110 by round 6 but has cracked the ton just once since then, Hanley doesn’t have the toughest run home and needs to stand up over the coming weeks.

Concerns: Injury history, may drop in form again

Keep in mind – these are not recommendations for on-field players. They are benchwarmers. Think very carefully about if you’re confident in your rookies to cover ahead of burning a trade on one of these blokes.

CAPTAIN McCAPTAINFACE

Danger will go off against his old side. Chuck the C on him. Or the VC, but in the sage words of Shia LeBouf, just do it.

Pendles on a Friday night is always a nice option, as is Hannebery against the Blues at home. However, with the Sydney Slot Machine in full force in recent weeks, I’d steer clear.

PODs aplenty this week, with Neale, Priddis, Gawn and Ward all set to have large games, but my smokie pick was very easy this week.

#arousalcurve

I love you community. Get down and play some CoachKings, revel in success and bring home the bacon (up to 2000 dollarydoos worth of it). I believe in you.

Good luck, you beautiful bastards.

 

5.41 EDIT: WHELP, THAT WENT WELL. Aaron Hall is now out for three according to the Suns’ website so he’s getting booted harder than Bart was supposed to. The pain continues as Connor Menadue has been dumped, as has Jared Jensen. PANIC STATIONS.


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dean

have barlow, hall & robinson. who needs to go first ? was planning on going barlow to merret and robinson to a rookie because he is my F7 but now hall is out im not sure.
thanks community

God

Trade Barlow, Put Robinson on field and Hall on the pine and reevaluate after more news around Hall comes out

Patch

Barlow and Hall gone at this stage Deano

Anth

It seems everyone has a different opinion on who the best F6 is for the rest of the season. Despite that, I'd still like to ask some suggestions.

My current forward set up is:

– Martin
– Merrett
– Zorko
– Montagna
– Franklin
– Deledio
– Hall (F7)

I am going to keep Hall as my F7 as it seems he will be out only one week.. so who is the "best" replacement for Deledio for the rest of the year in everyone's opinion?

Ben

Think it could be the other way around. Deledio missing only one week, and Hall out for a few. Just something to keep in mind.

You seem to have all the best forwards. Alot of people are trading in small or key position forwards with a soft draw – Gunston, Rioli, JJK, etc. Lynch is a good option imo. But if you have the cash its hard to pass on Wells. Wish i had him. He will most likely pump out a 100+, and is a true midfielder with fwd eligibility. Dont listen to the haters, wells is top 6

Jabba07

How do you know Hall is out for a few? Any web links? I'm sweating on some news….

Anth

Yeah I just saw the article as well.

Take a look at the GC Suns website Jabba, Eade says 3 weeks.

Tom

Hall probably put for 3 whilst lids is more likely to be back next week. I have dahlhaus, hall, lids and McVeigh and will be holding all but hall to gunston probably

Tim

Hey guys. Have 2 trades left and playing for a top 4 spot in league. Have Hall, McVeigh & Deledio which will leave me with 21. Thinking Hall to Gunston but is it worth trading or just cop a loss and try and come from outside the 4? Cheers

Micah Briene

Yer, tough
Hold on to Delidio
McVeigh a Groin & Hall a Hamstring – both unpredictable injuries

Marty

Hall is out for 3 so be bold and trade him. I'd go for Franklin (assuming you don't already have him) rather than Gunston – more reliable

Micah Briene

Bumping this for fresh ideas
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~“`
Who to replace Barlow in the forward line
I already have

1) Zachary Merrett
2) Dustin Martin
3) Dayne Zorko
4) Leigh Montagna
5) Lance Franklin
6)__________
7) Tom Phillips
8) Jack Silvagni

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thoughts are Gunston & Lynch – but there are not many other options for premos
someone suggest the Curious Case of Tobias – but I'm not sure

Steeeve

JJK or Cyril also worth considering. I have Wingard. Been a huge disappointment but without his injury-affected games he's averaging 93. Came storming home last year as well.

I N Pieman

The Ross Lyon Book of Arseholery! Love it Patch! As you purchase that book you get punched in the face!

Richie Porte

Can only trade one out, lids or hall?

Marty

no doubts, Hall

Steeeve

Option one:
Danger VC Gawn C

Option two:
Danger VC Rockliff C

Option three:
Danger VC Zerrett C

Option four:
Pendles VC Danger C

Jono

Option 4

Micah

Im doing option 3

Patch

Safe money would be on Option 4, but safe money is boring money* so ZERRETT <3

*it's not but shhhh

Win4top8

Do I trade out Wells or Hall for Zorko

Steeeve

Hall. He's cooked for three games minimum

Micah

Zorko definately

Jabba07

Zorko or Merritt for Hall or Delideo. Community, please assist. Is there any news on Hall? Who will be out longest? In a fight for top 4.

Tommy McV

Hall on won't be back until round 21.

Steeeve

Really?? Where have you heard/seen that?

Tommy McV

It's on the gold coast suns website

So know I'm gonna trade hall and hold Deledio considering he is only meant to miss this week

Sam

RFC: Deledio injury worst than first thought.
Requires more scans and will reassess based on results of scans.

Tommy McV

I can't find that news…. can you put the web link in??

Sam

I was listening to the radio and they were talking to Brendon Lade about RFC and he mentioned Deledio and he mentioned that he will need more scans.

Peaked my interest as I have him in my team.
Now I have a decision to make as didn't sound like he will be back any time soon. Limited trades like most.

As most teams have him I thought I must share this latest information.

Jabba07

Where is that Sam?

Steeeve

Yep same. Hall to Zerrett.
Unfortunately he's not worth as much as Lids so I can't upgrade Sam Collins anymore. Will downgrade him to a non-playing 102k def/mid. Then upgrade Tom Ruggles to my final premo.

Jabba07

Im doing same. Merritt of Zorko? Merritt is on a hot run, but has Brisbane (Rabo tag?), Geelong away, Suns, Bulldogs, Carlton… So 3 from 5 may be difficult…

Jordan

I have Lids, Hall and Liberatore, 5 trades and 128k in the bank

I have Zach Merrett, Dusty, Zorko, montagna, HALL, LIDS (Mason Cox and Petracca)
I am thinking hall out for Buddy and Petracca on the field for Lids.

Im not.too sure what to do with Liberatore.

Thoughts and suggestions would be great,
Thanks community.

I N Pieman

Just In: Aaron Hall will miss 3 games ladies & Gents. If you can, get rid of him!

God

Likelihood of Goldy being a late out tonight??

Leeds17

I think he'll play but maybe 50/50 ruck forward.

Moustachio

Will stand still in the centre circle the whole game and get 90 points from HTA without moving or jumping.

NorthMelb

Simpson or Boyd? Cant make up my mind

Kev

Same issue this week. I've gone with Simmo at the moment

NorthMelb

Same just because he is more consistent, but that could change so quickly

Patch

Would go Simmo mate

Marty

Tough choice but Boyd, he is proven SC scorer

Dasha

hall out for 3 apparently, got 1 trade left if i trade hall, do i trade him?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-22/hall-hamstr

SCaddict

Fark it! Bye bye Hally helloooooo Buddy!

3 weeks could so easily turn into the rest of the season so may as well get Budweiser's points now with "Linc the Stink" my only forward cover.

hedski

Only one trade left and now Halls out for 3.
Will have to hold I think got ok cover.

Steeeve

Heard Lids is no good, getting more scans. Can anyone confirm?

Moustachio

I can confirm that I heard the same impossible to verify rumor :S

red5

Best Replacement for Hall????
$460,700 to spend, 4 Trades left

Mick

I have all the main fwds, but if 1 falls over buddy straight in for me. Like swans draw & he has had a consistent year.

red5

anyone like Ben Brown $ 415,300 ???
BE 12
Last 3 Rd Avg: 106.3

Leeds17

Could entertain as a loop Cover/F7, honestly the first 4 fwds big themselves but after that it's anyones guess

Patch

Phwoar if he had the ruck DPP I'd maybe say yes but just too let field for my liking, Red. Love your search outside the box though mate!

Josh

AFL.com confirms Lids done for season after further scans

Steeeve

Link?

If so, CARNAGE

Tommy McV

I've looked through and I can't find that at all

Steeeve

Yep me neither. Not on the website, not on Twitter.

Confirmed: Getting more scans — not a good sign

But I call bullshit on him being out for the season

Tommy McV

Do I still get rid of hall before Deleido even though he is going in for more scans??

Cameron

Need to trade hall out, I've got 5 trades left and only 6k in the bank, is it worth using two trades to get merret in?

Jack

Which option:

1. Montagna and Pendlebury
2. Zorko and Coniglio
3. Zorko and Merrett

Kev

1

Tommo09

Last chance for me
Do I or do I not trade Petracca for a premo fwd and have Hall at F7 until he is back?
Can get anyone except Merrett?
I have 3 trades left

Mac

Trade Hall? Listed as more than 1 week now? It is said that he may return Round 21 which is the earliest time the club believes he will return to the senior team.
Source: Gold Coast Suns Website

Steeeve

Yes mate trade him. However if you have only one or two left Lids could also be done for the season (if commenters on here are to be believed). So in that case you'd be better off holding Hall for finals.

ethan

3 weeks say rocket

Neverweaken

I have 1 trade left. And lots of cover. Earlier this week I ditched Collins, swung Hipwood to defence and brought in Zorko cos I couldn't afford Merret. I have Hall.
Should I reverse trades, trade out Hall and bring in Merret? That will bring Hipwood back to the fwd as DPP with suckling.
Or leave it and keep Zorko. Zorko not as high a ceiling as Merret but I keep thinking Merret can't keep producing those scores.

Patch

Would keep as much cover as you can with the one trade left, mate. Would go Hall-Merrett myself, but Zorko isn't a bad selection for Hall either

Neverweaken

Can keep hall and get Zorko. Or have to trade hall to get Merrett Hate to trade Hall and have him back on a couple of weeks.

ethan

Aaron Hall I hate you

Steeeve

Me too. And I loved you so much after the first few rounds, thought I'd picked the breakout star of the year.

Rookies and fallen genuine premos next year.

Shake n bake

I'm I the only 1 thinkin Coniglio for Hall? & not Merrett. My fwds are buddy dusty Montagna Zorko lynch hall Patracca Grimley.

Steeeve

He's a mid mate so I assume you will start Tracca on field?

Shake n bake

Looking at to many scenarios….me bad!

Tony

Whats your thoughts on Shaun Burgoyne guys???

Derek

yes

Hubba

No

Patch

Would probably pass, Tony. Love the thinking though, but he stands up in the big games and the Hawk's don't play too many more of those before the finals. Also a rest chance

Kev

Tucker and Broad are my D7/8 so in the need of cover with McV having the week off. Options are thin though. Not interested in William or Hammelmann from the Lions. WhiteX or punt on Francis?

Wedge

Tucker listed as emg. Wait until last minute of freo game to see if he gets a call up before doing anything

Kev

Good call. Cheers Wedge!

Lee

5 Trades left – 129k. Any advice, do i just hold as can cover? Much appreciated.

Def: Shaw, Bartel, Laird, Simpson, Rich, Collins (MCVEIGH, O McDonald)
Mid: Danger, Pendles, Ward, Hanners, Rockliff, Gray, Priddis, S Thompson (J Smith, Trengove, T Phillips)
Ruck: Gawn, S Martin (Grimley)
Fwd: D Martin, Wells, Montagna, Zorko Tippa, Petracca (DELEDIO, HALL)

Dean

Hell yes HOLD him while you have cover, I don't have cover unless COX ends up being a late inclusion tomorrow although unlikely.

Dean

My partner is so bloody arsey its crazy, this is her team.

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Simpson, Boyd, Gibson, Laird (Collins, Williams)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Parker, Sloane, Steven, Priddis, Mathieson (Davis, Stewart, Trengove)
RUCK: Gawn, Goldy (Grimley)
FWD: Mrtin, Merrett, Montagna, Zorko, Rioli, Wingard (Phillips, Wyatt)

She has dodged all the carnage, the only player that may be a late withdrawal is Goldy and if so Naismith comes in.
She is waiting to turn Davis into Dahlhaus in round 20 once his price has bottomed out to around $300k to $330k

I have Hall and will have to burn a trade, not sure who I will bring in thinking either Gunston or JJK.

Mick

I'd go Gunston

Patch

Gunston for me too

Mac

Anyone else gotta trade Hall and Barlow?

Micah

Gonna get rid of Barlow
He's not back for the season & nee2x a premo to cover

Dean

Thankfully I traded Barlow the week he was out and when I seen him named 2 weeks later I was kicking myself coz I went Barlow to Merrett and burnt a trade which I need, however as soon as he got back and re-injured himself I was then wrapped I did trade him in round 15

Mick

5 trades left, playing for league win. Liber out for Jk or Sloane ?

Mick

PS. Both have a good run home & already have Parker & Hannerbury . Jk has slowly been building since mid season & Sloane has a slightly easier draw but do worry about him coping with a tag especially against Robinson in round 20. Thoughts?

Micah Briene

I'd be thinking Sloane over Liba

I'm tossing up between Sloane, Selwood or Bont

Liam

Naismith or Collins on field ?

Patch

Naismith

Mac

No Menadue or Jansen may hurt a few people with Lids/Hall/Barlow out this week.

Derek

i have NO bench cover

Mitchell

docherty shaw simpson laird bartel adams joyce broad
pendles danger sloane parker hanners libba steven ward trengove stewart d.cuningham
goldy gawn cox
martin hall barlow zorko merrett montagna menadue phillips

7 trades left and 267k

im torn on who to bring in for barlow/adams. dont really want to use joyce as d6 this week. and stuck on who to bring in forward line

would really appreciate some help community!

Mick

Buddy

Tommy McV

Trading out Hall, haven't got much money to spend at all like 8K, is Toby Greene the best option? Or someone like Scott Lycett a POD that's got the #1 ruck spot and is scoring very well

Moustachio

Lycett if you have the DPP rookie to let him cover you in ruck

Tommy McV

My only worried with Lycett is Nic Nat is expected to return in 2-3 weeks time

James

Need some help community. 5 trades left and I need to ditch Hall

Do I trade Hall for Greene and only use one trade or

Trade Menadue for Naismith/Markov and then trade Hall for Merrett?

Alex

What's everyone's opinion on Tom lynch from the Suns?
Only have 477k to trade hall.
Obviously the trade isn't going to be a highly consistent scorer but any good or nah?

Moustachio

Could work, would be pretty concerned about GCS getting any possessions to send the ball his way with their whole midfield out now.

Saundo

Go JJK

Patch

I'm bringing him in this week

Saundo

Lynch or JJK?

Dylan

Is it worth keeping Hall and playing Papley just for this week to see how long he's out for? Only got 2 trades left.

Derek

Papley goes alright. Hall will be back before the end of the season. you will need those trades. Hold

nervous coach

Nice work again Patch. Should I go for Naismith or C Smith to replace M Cox. Naismith is cheaper and a DPP but inconsistent and job security unknown. Smith is more expensive, consistent and seems to have better JS. Thoughts!!!

Derek

why do you need to replace Cox? save the trade

Patch

Depends on if you need ruck cover. Smith will absolutely score more, but if he's on the pine while Goldy is rested it won't do us much good!
That said, #yolo – Clay Smith for mine

nervous coach

Thanks Derek and Patch. Have Gawn and Z Smith with Cox as R3. Only thought to trade him since he is not likely to get a game anytime soon. Missed the opportunity this week. Could trade Grimley to Naismith or hold fire and go with Hipwood as F8. Thoughts!!!

Steve

How many trades do people have? I'm on 4 after using 2 this week.

Derek

i have 5, but havn't used any this week yet. Will see how Motlop goes before trading Delidio. If Motlop does good i'll take his score and wait a week on Delidio

red5

4

Steeeve

7 and glad

Cam_H

I have 5 but still carrying 3 mid-pricers on-field.
Like most of us, I have been hit quite a bit with long term injuries to my team this year (and currently have 5 'healthy' but non-selected rookies on my bench).

Derek

i'm going into this weekend with Zero bench cover. Not one of my bench is playing this weekend.

SCaddict

Yep the mighty menapoo finally got flushed down the dunny!

Are you trading out either Hall or Lids or munching down on a donut?

Derek

Don't have Hall, have Motlop as my F7.

Do have McVeigh and Delidio.

Will give Motlop the E, if he is poor will trade Delidio (maybe to Cyril) if Motlop does ok I'll keep Delidio until next week and see what is problems are

Swans2012

Shouldn't be holding lids either way Derek? Feels like a hold this week to me….

Millicent

Join the queue Derek. SC can be a prick of game sometimes. Good luck.

Sully321

I've got Libba, deledio and hall with 270k in the bank what should I do? I know I need to get rid of hall but do I just take jack silvagni's score this week by holding Deledio and upgrading Libba or do I keep Libba for another week? I've got 5 trades left

Dean

Just trade Hall, keep Libba & Lids mate

Sully321

I want to get full premo and Libba is the final upgrade I need to do

John

Need some help quick guys I have 3 trades left, should I upgrade Matthew Wright to Zac Merrett or upgrade Rich to any defender or upgrade deledio? Or should I just not trade.

Josh

Sounds like Goldy might be a late out?

johnno2908

Final team is in, no late changes. Swallow, Clarke, Mullett, Daw the starting interchange #AFLPiesNorth

North Mebourne Twitter

Dean

Goldy & Daw playing?

Patch

Yeah, not liking Goldy's scoring potential tonight

hedski

No late changes tonight.
AFL Live website.
Could still be a late late out I suppose but I hope not (Goldy I'm lookin at you)

Dean

Goldy will play but I think he will be managed carefully, don't be surprised if he spends only half the time on the ground.

Patch

Not all heroes wear capes, Hedski

(Unless you're wearing a cape right now)

hedski

I am. Reckon Goldy will play deep fwd alot tonight. Hopefully he snags a couple.
Zerrett in for Barlow this week.
Cheers Patcharinodiddlydoo.

Confusion

Boyd, Williams or Gibbo to finish my defence boys?

Dean

Boyd by the length of the Flemington straight.

Borrismcstupidhead

I can do Zerret and Gibbo in or Franklin and Z.Williams..thoughts?

Patch

Would go option 2 there Borris!

Borrismcstupidhead

One more question sorry Patch..Franklin and Williams or Franklin and Boyd?

Confused

Ok. Only going for league wins here.

So have already downgraded Collins to William to free up some cash and have ruggles playing onfield. Will upgrade ruggles for last def premo in future when required based on who I'm facing. After this trade, i have 6 trades left.

Now, my fwd line is: Martin zorko hall montagna greene wells (petracca, Phillips).

Was thinking of upgrading either hall or petracca to merrett. Petracca is my only mid cover though, which would become hall if I trade him. Not sure if that's too risky with hall out for 3 weeks. Otherwise, trade hall and have extra cash to upgrade ruggles nxt week (possibly without requiring any other trade), and that locks in petracca as my mid cover. Alternatively I could do nothing as I should win the games that matter this week in my leagues. Thoughts?

Dean

Hall to Merrett mate, thats a no brainer for mine.

Patch

Agree

Confused

Thanks guys! Hall to merrett I think it is. Bench cover be damned!

Dean

Wells is out