The Round 17 AFL Cheatsheet
G’day community,
A moment of silence for the great Gary Ablett, long may we remember his scores of 200+ but never shall we forgive the fantasy gods for taking his shoulder from us. A shoulder that has worn away over time, decaying under the weight of the Gold Coast Suns, finally giving way this weekend as the mediocrity of Queensland football became too much for the great man and his weakened joints.
But now we must look to the future, we must find the next fantasy guns who will carry the torch, I believe I have identified those who can stand up in this time of darkness. Will the likes of Steven, Hannebery and Neale fill the void in our hearts or will a new savior stand up and take his rightful place on the fantasy throne?
These are questions that some of the greatest fantasy minds will be tackling over the next seven rounds. But like the questions around the meaning of life, what comes after death and why can’t Levi Casboult kick a football…we may never truly find the answers we seek. We can only hope that with time comes clarity…I pray that we find the next Gary Ablett very bloody soon.
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Great Stuff lek, love your work.
Cheers Liam
Sloane or Hannebery? Money isn't an issue
I'd go Sloane mate. Just a touch more reliability there I reckon
Have you seen Hanners consistency vs Sloanes? LOL
Sloane has probably been one of the most consistent mids of the last 3 years
Also going Sloane. 5 of the last 7 at the Adelaide Oval, and he loves the place
Thoughts of Touk Miller straight swap for Petracca as Mid-Fwd cover Lek?
Don't like it, would rather see an upgrade or downgrade (I do like Miller as a player though)
Can understand not liking it, who would you suggest as a down grade who'll be better cover than him?
Awesome work Lek. I'm bringing in JPK for Gaz. The still looking to upgrade Ollie Wines, tossing up between Robbie Gray or Matt Priddis. Will see who my finals opponents don't have.
Almost put JPK in this article!
Glad you didn't, hopefully he'll remain a bit of a pod (at least considering his quality)!
I think you're safe mate
Hey lek mate, Im going Hanners, what are you ranked now? Heard you had a good weekend.
Was 10th for the round and now back at about 2700 overall…had a slip the last few weeks
I, inexplicably, don't have Pendles. Back him in or save 30k for Neale?
G'day Kev – back Pendles in to the hilt mate
Pendles is very good at football
Do we think JJ will hit the form he was in at the start of the year again?
Unlikely, Oli. He'll get some good scores, and might hit his straps coming into finals but there are better options out there
agreed
trading down petracca. Thoughts on bringing in a non playing Essendon player to maximise loophole flexibility from here on out? 5 of 6 fixtured games are on Sunday with Round 23 TBC.
Don't actually hate it mate
It's not a bad idea, I'm entertaining the thought too. Jake Long is 117K Fwd/Mid.
Tossing up between Bont, Gray and Neale. dunno which one to get for libba
Also is clay smith worth a look at with hid fwd/mid eligibility and 2 scores of 80+
Smith is a little more pricey than i'd like, Neale for mine but Bont could go bang
2 trades left
Going either kk to boyd and ablett to ward
Or kk to rampe or ablett to hanners
Team is
Docherty simpson laird rance shaw kk
Pendles danger ablett priddis gray parker neale
Gawn martin
Hall kennedy franklin martin merrett wells
Option 2
Beautiful, mate
<3
Thinking about the following two trades this leaves me 3 trades not sure if I should hold libba or trade him would have to play petrrac if I held zorko or Trengrove if he comes back.
Gazza to Parker
Libba to Zorko
I'd pull the pin and do both the listed trades
Lekdog i think we've found the new "Gaz" already, moved from the Crows to Cats in the off season. He goes by the name of Dangerfield.
He's close, needs to do it all again next year
4 trades left, im trading ablett to hanners but is it also worth trading libba or just hold since hes not as bad at first thought to save trades?? thx
Personally, I'd hold but depends on your situation. If you avoid injuries for the next few weeks you could always trade him when finals begin.
I'd be yolo trading both, Libba isn't scoring enough to hold imo
Depends if your goal is to have him at M8 or M9 – ideally M9 for me but I'm holding either way, doggies have a great fixture during SuperCoach finals 😉
4 trades left
Gazza to Hanners
Was going to do libba to Priddis but 1k off so was thinking either Zorko, Cotchin or Treloar
Of the three I like Zorko, his DPP helps too
Sorry @LEKD0G just looked at it and can't afford Zorko. Is it worth having a look at Treloar, Sidebottom, T Mitchell or Callan Ward.
Cheers
How much do people think Rampe will be in about 3-4 weeks?
Might get him to loophole with Savage as I am just about done with him after getting him a few weeks ago as a POD
Around his current price mate. Savage has gone to poo lately, so annoying
He is driving me insane
Reckon Bont could be a candidate for Gaz's throne next year. He is improving massively, already a star
He can put his hand up, he's got a ways to go though
As mentioned by the boys, if he gets some attention or tag, his scores might drop
Current team
Def: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Boyd, Laird, Bartel, Collins, Lee.
Mids: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Pendlebury, Parker, Priddis, Gray, Shiel, Ablett, Jansen, Trengove, Beech.
Rucks: M Gawn, T Goldstein, D Wyatt.
Fwds: D Zorko, A Hall, B Deledio, N Riewoldt, L Montagna, M Barlow, J Silvangi, T Phillips.
Ranked 354 with 2 trades left and 73,200 remaining.
2 options I'm considering are:
Option 1. Trade Ablett to Lycett establishing a ruck/fwd swing which provides cover for both lines. Also if a mid is injured/rested a fwd/mid can be switched to the mids and Lycett will be able to provide cover for the fwds. Lycett will be fielded as F6 until Jansen makes it to 300,000 when my last trade will be used to bring in a mid or mid/fwd premium under 550,000 such as a C Ward/ S Mitchell/ L Hodge/ B Vince/ etc.
Option 2. Bring in Sloane/Neale for Ablett but have 1 trade left and insufficient funds to bring in good bench cover. Silvangi, Phillips, Trengove, Jansen would have to cover the mid and fwd lines for the remainder of the year. Also if one of Goldy/Gawn is injured/rested I would have to cop a donut. The benefit of this option is I could increase my rank quickly as Sloane/Neale will score more points than Lycett but I will have to forego reliable bench cover (Lycett) and have to settle for S Motlop/B Matera/D Smith or other fwd, fwd/mids under 340,000.
I am leaning towards Option 1 purely for the bench coverage on multiple lines that Lycett will provide but I would greatly appreciate feedback from the community.
I like the safety of option 1, if you had more trades I'd say option 2
Confusion reigns supreme. Have Ablett, Libba & Petraca. 7 trades and only $14k. Who to trade first?
Team:
D: Shaw, Doc, Laird, Rance, Rich, S.Collins (Broad, B.Williams)
M: Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Selwood, Ward, Rocky, Parker, Libba (Petraca, Trengove, Phillips)
R: Gawn, Goldy (Cox)
F: Dusty, Merrett, Zorko, Lids, Montagna, Hall (Rose, Grimley).
Wanted McVeigh or Simpson but seems impossible now.
Option 1:
Ablett & Libba to Hanners & Gray, forget D6 issue;
Option 2:
Ablett & Tracca to Hanners & R.Clarke, leaving cash for S.Collins to Simpson next week
Option 3:
Ablett & Libba to Hanners & Clay Smith. May leave enough cash for Simpson/McVeigh but leave Tracca at swing M8/F7.
Help!!!
Gazza to Hanners
Libba- Can't afford Zorko or Priddis. Treloar, Cotchin, Sidebottom, T Mitchell (already have Hanners and Parker) or Callan Ward. These are just my suggestions.
If you think anyone else plz tell me
Cheers
In that price range I'd probably give hodge a look. He's proven and the Hawks will be firing up heading towards finals. I'd have a trade or good cover up your sleeve though if you pick him. Risk vs reward
Thoughts on how long Libba will be out for. Only have two trades so do I hold?
Hopefully one week he's my M9 so I'm holding him obviously.
They said earlier in the week he was a chance to play so I'm assuming it's minor.
He is not playing this week because they are playing at the Gold Coast but he is definitely playing next week.
If the Bulldogs were playing in Melbourne this week Beveridge Said that he would of been a chance to play. He is not playing because of the flight up to the Gold Coast.
Thoughts on the best option out of the following 2?
Ablett -> Hannebery and Liberatore -> Sloane… am I the only one concerned that Sloane may be tagged Saturday night?
OR
Do I Ablett -> Hannebery and Menadue -> Zorko.. and keep Liberatore as an M9?
1 option cause libba is too good to keep on bench
Petracca straight to Hall to keep fwd/mid??
Appreciate thoughts guys
Like it
Rose has been dropped…
Should i trade him to Clay Smith would leave me with 3 trades (already have Silvagni)
Am full premo
Next week, Clay Smith might get dropped. Save trades.
Clay Smith is no must have that is certain.
What r the odds of the doc going down to 530k and Sammy Collins going up to 345k. I 185k in the bank and hoping that will happen
I like the odds
I'm not so sure.
For Docherty to drop under 530k, he'd need to score under 80 this round (and would be just at 530k) OR if you're looking at it after two games, around an 85, then up to 110 (but no higher). Doc's only scored in the 70's three times this year out of 15 games (20% chance based solely on odds).
For Collins to hit 345k after two games, he'd have to go two scores above 90 (95/92 would work). He's done that on two occasions out of six games (33% chance based solely on odds).
It's possible but at best, I'd say you're a 15-25% chance.
Hi Lekdog I'm the one who went kerridge to Lynch do you now think without Ablett & Rischitelly is going to restrict his scoring by much? I'm ranked 370 with 9 trades left?
Wait and see imo. With that many trades I would burn some up to finish top 100
Sloane or Selwood?
Selwood easy
Sloane is under rated.
sloane is better dif player but selwood is good too
Sloanedog in ripping form, consistent
Ablett to kenndy (syd) any other people i could get for ablett
About 90% of the above comments are Ablett related. Have a read through them
Kennedy or Selwood or Steven or any one else
Pendles, Priddis, Gray, Hanners, Parker, Sloane, Neale, Hodge?
Selwood is tempting with his run home though, especially after the few down weeks I reckon Geelong are going to fire up.
Lekdog do we flick trac for GSOS this week or shoulder arms and have a look at Oleg this week and grab him next?
He was impressive it's also the first time I've seen Aliir " " play too, his skills look pretty sharp and is fairly composed in the chaos I think he has some potential.
Midfield: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Parker, Priddis, Rocky, Gray, Libba
4 trades left and only 35k in the bank but no other upgrades to make
If both Gaz & Libba need to be traded:
Neale & someone like Ward, Treloar, Sidebum
Hanners & someone more expensive like Mitchell
Thoughts??
What is Sloane's Adelaide Oval Ave this season and career?
Excellent! … as you'd expect. 118 avg over 27 games.
He's the easy Gaz switch for those don't already have him and want reliable elite output over the last 7 games with the Crows cushy remaining draw.
After a lot of research I can't go past the Ablett > Sloane trade. He is locked.
stuck in dilemma, please help. Am trying to win league
back: bartel, doc, simpson, laird, shaw, m.adams (to be traded)
mid: danger, shiel, hanners, parker, pendles, gray, priddis. ablett (to be traded)
forward: complete
have 155k in warchest. which of the following should i go with?
1) sloane and williams/rance
2) selwood and williams/rance
3) neale and boyd
4) something else?
All 3 options look just fine to me.
Might prefer the Neale Boyd combo ever so slightly but really just go with the pair your intuition tells you.
Jelwood Rance
Sloane & Rance would be my choice out of those combinations
N & B
libba to parker or neal or keep libba and upgrade adams to laird or boyd also doin abblet for sloane leaves 6 trades left currently on 8 before trading also 250,000 in the kitty ranked 780 odd thanks community
Two options this week
Option 1:
Gazza & Libba to JPK & Priddis
or
Option 2:
Gazza & Libba to Sloane & Hodge
I like JPK and Priddis because they're both proven scorers and they should do fine, however option 2 is rather tantalizing. I love Sloane as a player and with his good run home he seems like a very good option, and Hodge is a massive POD and the only good, cheap player who would allow me to get Sloane in. (I have a very tight budget and its either option 1 or 2). Which one do you guys think?
I only just listened to the podcast and they commended on your bold move of Sloane and Hodge.
I tend to agree whilst option one is safe, Sloane can go pretty big at home, and Hodgey looks to be hungry after being out for a long stint on the sidelines.
The best thing about Hodge is the massive POD factor in 1% ownership. That saying JPK is under 5% too.
Hodge just feels under priced for his potential. I'd stop second guessing yourself and lock it in.
Commented*
(Although Jock did actually commend it)
Didn't actually catch the podcast yesterday, so thanks for pointing that out for me Southern, I've now locked it in. How are you doing this season? What's your overall rank and what's your team looking like?
My rank is poor around the 11k mark but I had a huge warchest for a majority of the season as I went for overall growth so was rookie heavy.
Just going for league wins this year since the start I'd like to think if I was going for rank I'd at least be in the top 5000.
Have scored in the top 3-4% the last few weeks so going ok and team is worth over 14 million.
Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Smith – Collins/Hartley
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Parker, Sloane, Priddis, Gray, Rockliff – Libbe/Stewart/Trengove
Gawn, Goldy – King
Martin, Montagna, Barlow, Wells, Deledio, Lyons – Petracca/Brown
Only 2 trades left after Gazza went down I've traded my ass off but should be able to hold through injuries with bench cover mainly having good JS.
150k in bank and will upgrade Lyons/Smith/Collins for a premo FWD and DEF come finals. Or of course if a bad injury strikes like Gaz I'll have to use them.
I'm ranked no.1 in all my friend's leagues except one I'm 4th so mostly going to plan.
In my other 5 leagues I randomly joined I'm making a good charge for finals too as I hit practically full premo a bit sooner than most.
I'm in the same boat with the trades, only two left after gazza and libba. What upgrade targets are you looking at for Lyons and Collins/Smith?
Am thinking Williams for the backline as I am sure he won't be rested, I feel Boyd (and possibly Bartel who I already have could be)
Rance and Gibbo too up and down. JJ is a possibility.
The forward line is a tough one and I probably won't be able to upgrade Lyons due to lack of funds (only 153k left)
Although depending on how Lyons and Collins go I may be able to upgrade both to fallen premos like Rance and Gunston.
It's kind of up in the air at the moment I would like to have Merrett up forward but that's not going to happen unless Smith becomes a 90 scorer per game with the crows run home.
I actually might keep Lyons through the finals anyway as I see Adelaide's run home as good, and I know none of my mates have him, might not be a qualified premo but can pump out 90's fairly easily.
impossible decision over who to pick to replace gaz over neale, sloane or the bont! currently 5th overall community
Whoa-ho then this is time for you to make a massive decision on your own mate 😉
5th overall? Sloane….
Bont.
Could be that player to separate them from the pack, and he is in ripping form.
Reckon I'll take him.
Should tear up suns and lots of etihad games.
I think on the podcast they said he's averaged 120 since round seven…..very tempting.
Neale would be my choice of the 3 you mentioned. Good Luck!!
Blimey! Good onya shemmist!
Depends if you wanna gamble or play safe.
Seeing as you're only really playing against four other teams I'd take a look at their mids and pick the player that they don't have if you wanna gamble or pick the player they do have if you wanna play safe.
Good luck mate!!
nice work. must be exciting to be right in contention.
i would go Sloane. Crows run home is too good to not be part of.
Good job mate on 5th overall! How many trades left?
Nice one. Look at the guys above you and pick a pod imo. The Bont is almost guaranteed to be one, requires big kahunas tho.
Whoever you pick , don't go the BONT !
Neale, has scored well in most games, but the harder the opposition the higher his score. Freo have a tough run, I have selected Neale for this reason.
Like your analysis, I agree he loves the hard stuff, he's a freak!!
Not a big fan of Neale. You say he does well against tougher teams, can't see the numbers to support that.
fremantles last 7 games have been against, Tigers, Saints, Essendon, Lions, Port, Pies, Melb – none are top 8 teams. He has scored well, but doesn't give me alot of confidence he will score well in the remaining games against; Cats, Suns, Swans, WCE, Crows, GWS, Dogs – 6/7 are top 8 teams.
not convinced on neals run home at all.
Is it alright to run hanners/parker/JPK ?
Got hanners and parker and want to move libba to JPK
Thoughts?
I don't mind having three from sydney as they all score well.
I think Sydney will finish strong this season. Could JPK be rested in round 23 against Richmond though? My only small concern.
No way JPK (or any player, particularly top 4 team) will be rested Round 23 as there is a bye before the finals. Coaches are already saying it may be a disadvantage for a top 4 team to win the first final as their players will be 'too rested' come the Preliminary Final.
Eggs, meet basket =p
Parker and JPK tend to fill in each others weak games, so handy to ensure consistency for your league. If you want to take a gamble for total rank I'd look elsewhere
Swans play the hawks tonight.
Looking at the scores from games last year against the hawks, win and a loss.
JPK, Hanners, Parker and McVeigh ALL scored 100+ in BOTH games against the hawks.
ranked in the top 100.. selwood hanners or sloane????
Selwood
In order: Selwood, Sloane, Hanneberry
Sloane in best form right now, selwood most up and down, Hanners most consistent. All likely average about the same for rest of year, pick your favourite.
Sloane for me.
Selwood might just throw in a stinker 51 (like he did to me round 21 last year)
Selwood, always performs when Geelong need to win, leads from the front.
Who handles a tag better? Selwood for me.
I traded Gaz to Sloane
I'm keeping libba as he's my m8 and my bench weren't named last week.
Only 4 trades left and a potential 6 or 7 weeks left.
Not keen to trade except for injury
Shaw Simmo Doch (Rug)
Gibbo Laird Sucklingpig (Collins)
Danger Parker Priddis (Jansen)
Gray Jelwood Treloar (Trengrrrrrove)
Ward BONT (Phillips)
Goldy Gawn (Loersch)
Dusty Zorko Joey (Tracca)
Hall Barlow Chad (Skinner)
Bont 4 GOD.
2 TRADES
Hallelujah.
Pretty solid team there, that mid bench you would've presumed that they'd all get games. Pity Trengove and Phillips dumped.
Hopefully Jansen keeps playing and makes some cash, thenyou can do a sidegrade before or during finals if he makes enough cash.
I'm hoping Trengove comes back I don't feel comfortable with only Libbe as my M9.
I think it's about time Danger lifts, I need him to double ton this week so he makes his b/e.
He's probably a chance of doing it. I recall preseason a lot of naysayers bagging Danger. It's about the only pick I got right.
He was my first, Selwood second but I am a Cats supporter.
Hey community would love some opinions.
Need a final defender. Currents are shaw, doch, laird, Gibbo, and Simpson.
Looking at Zac Williams and pittard.
Williams has a great run home but I haven't caught many gws games this year so don't know much about him?
I'm reasonably confident pittard will average 90 on the run home with low standard deviation.
Both young blokes which suits me cause trade situations looking shithouse!
Be great to hear some thoughts!
Williams a first half player , 60 half time and finishes with a 90 . Still like him though .
Forward line is:
Zorko, Dusty, Lids, ZMerrett, Wells, A.Hall (Rose, Phillips/Menadue)
Personal alternatives for final upgrade are Montagna, Barlow, Dahl, JJK and NRoo.
First year of Supercoach so only ranked about 3K, meaning not fussed about points now and would be happy to wait for Dahl.
Leaning towards NRoo. Love his run home, performances against upcoming opponents and scores at Etihad are great.
Is this a reasonable thought or is there better options?
Cheers
Why Hannebery over Parker .
Good sides to Parker in this week , looks to be back .
100, 121, 125, 129, 114, 136, 111, 138, 110, 126, 113, 92, 86, 123, 106
these are hanners SC scores for the season.
and you can get him for only $539k.
Parkers numbers are also very good, Parker has had 3 scores over 150 that has inflated his average. he has had a 75, 59 & 67 as well that can be a worry.
All week i have been tossing up Selwood, Parker or hanners to take gaz place. Right now hanners is in front.
Love Hanners consistency aswell but he doesn't seem to be able to pull out the 150+ like Parker . Is the better pick a 150 then 80 next week (Parker) or a 115 then 115 next week (hannabery) .
I'm totally indecisive and then I've also got Lachie Neale as another good option !!
history says you are right. last year hanners top score was 148 (twice). can't crack that 150 😉
looking at parkers numbers from last year, all over the place! very inconsistent.
maybe to Menadue as lock prem mid.
Is Clay Smith (Bulldogs) an option to trade in for Petracca? High price at $237,400 so will only generate $100K, but scores of 82 and 95 in his last two games…what is his JS like though for the rest of the year? Is it possible that he will come out of the side once Dahlhaus is fit and firing?
can't see what the attraction is. certainly won't be getting him for cash generation and won't be in your best 22. not even that good as bench cover (maybe second reserve bench cover).
gday community,
Ablett and Libba to:
Pendles and Ward
OR
Neale and Mitchell/Gray
Love banners consistency aswell but he doesn't seem to be able to pull out the 150+ like Parker . Is the better pick a 150 then 80 next week (Parker) or a 115 then 115 next week (hannabery) .
Pendles & Ward
Sorry maxxy I posted that on the wrong thing
I'd go pendles and Gray !! If you can – if not Neale and gray (don't like ward)
all good mate, cheers for the advice
Who out of Parker, SMitchell, JPK, or Ward can handle a tag more than others?