AFL PODCAST – Rd.15
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One Bye Round to go folks – We’re up and about this week in The Bungalow.
In this casting of the pod we ….
- have a chat to The Communities own Adam Schnieder who gives us a red hot TRADE IN tip.
- deliver a musical tribute to the one and only GAZZA … it looks like he’s back folks!
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245 Comments
Jonathan Camac · 28/06/2016 at 15:36
Absolutely cracking singing Jock. Might have missed your calling.
Pinidu · 28/06/2016 at 15:49
D: Shaw, Simpson, Laird, Rance, Gibson, Adams (Collins, Lee)
M: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Hanners, Priddis, Gray, Libba, Petracca (Mills, Trengove, Matheison)
R: Gawn, Goldy (Wyatt)
F: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Hall, Kerridge (Paine, Phillips)
12 trades and 470K in the bank.
I have two plans but not sure which to go with:
Plan A:
Mills > Sloane
Adams > Docherty
Kerridge > Montagna
Plan B:
Adams > Docherty
Kerridge > Montagna
Next week
Mills > Neale
Thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I really like Sloane as a POD…only in 8% of teams and has Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Brisbane in the next five weeks. However, the thought of Curnow, Greenwood and Robinson worries me.
Thanks in advance
anthdepa · 28/06/2016 at 19:13
Doesn't look like you need to trade so I'd go plan b, Neale looking in good nic!
Higgios Dog · 29/06/2016 at 07:40
Might have to trade barlow
poloko48 · 29/06/2016 at 08:39
Barlow out for a month
Clarky99 · 29/06/2016 at 08:53
If its true and Barlow is out for a month. Go plan B but include Barlow down to Joey. He is very good value at the moment.
Troy · 29/06/2016 at 18:26
Go with plan A mate
Ada · 28/06/2016 at 16:03
Ha jock good podcast mate.
OK community I'm Looking at my last upgrade in the middle do. Who scores the most out of Martin hannebury and Parker? Leaning to Martin for flexibility he provides
Pinidu · 29/06/2016 at 10:32
Hanners. If u can….try to get Dusty in the FWD line.
min0008 · 28/06/2016 at 16:03
D: Shaw, Simpson, Docherty, Laird, Rance, Bartel (Collins, Austin)
M: Ablett, Dangerfield, Selwood, Pendlebury, Gray, Parker, Libba, Davis (Trengove, Phillips, Jansen)
R: Goldstein, Gawn (Loersch)
F: Deledio, Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Petracca, Menadue)
9 trades and 240k in the bank
Trading Kerridge to Montagna then in 2 weeks time downgrading Menadue to a rookie even if he doesn't play to upgrade Davis to Hannebery leaves me with 6 trades and full premium.
Shmobz · 29/06/2016 at 13:09
When are you ranked – surely top 3,000 ???
min0008 · 29/06/2016 at 15:15
In the top 3000, actually ranked 1365
Banga · 28/06/2016 at 16:13
Should i downgrade Davis or Jansen to Joyce? (Already have Phillips) Only other option is Jansen down to a 102k player. I only have 17 this week, so i don't think Davis to 102k player is an option. Thoughts?
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 18:42
Jansen to Joyce
Rick Grimes · 28/06/2016 at 16:23
Trelor as an alternative to Pendles?
LEKD0G · 28/06/2016 at 19:59
I like the value Treloar presents
Danners · 28/06/2016 at 20:22
If you don't have the bills for Pendles, Treloar is a good option
Weasel · 29/06/2016 at 09:22
Treloar gets it 30 odd times granted, but his 1 metre handballs and average kucking mean he's good for 95-110. Pendles hurts teams more.
Weasel · 29/06/2016 at 09:23
*kicking
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 16:28
Seen some crazy suggestions for trades today. But Higgo has taken the chocolates. You'd want to have heap of trades in the bank to trade Danger! And some sort of a brilliant plan on getting him back pronto
Ben · 28/06/2016 at 16:28
I want one of these two players
Jason J
OR
Jeremy Howe
Who should i get?
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 17:35
Howe
steve1 · 28/06/2016 at 18:59
oh you just push the trade button that's how
Jay · 28/06/2016 at 21:09
Bahahaha
Leeds17 · 28/06/2016 at 19:00
This week Howe but if you can wait 1-2 JJ, I've taken a punt that Howe can beat Rance from here till the end of the season.
Ben · 28/06/2016 at 23:11
thanks mate
The Ranger · 28/06/2016 at 16:57
Needs some help this week community.
The byes haven't gone to plan so I'm rethinking what to do next, team is –
Shaw, Simpson, Laird, Bartel, Rance, Yeo – Collins, Austin
Danger, Gaz, Pendles, Sloane, Rockliff, Priddis, Libba, Kerridge – Petracca, Keays, Stewart
Gawn, NicNat – King
Dusty, Dids, Zorko, Montagna, Wells, Hall – Phillips, Rose
10 trades and 120K in the kitty.
What would you do?
Thanks in advance.
Lachy · 28/06/2016 at 20:30
Get rid of NicNat. Have a feeling he'll be out a bit longer and saved for finals. 120k can get you to Goldy easily, or you could probably even upgrade Hall to Merrett with that loose 120k.
The Ranger · 28/06/2016 at 22:34
Still weighing up whether to go straight to Goldie or risk it with Martin and pocket the extra cash.
50_Shades · 29/06/2016 at 00:37
Maybe Keays for Joyce, would give you DPP mid/def swing with Bartel.
The Ranger · 29/06/2016 at 08:39
That was the original plan but if I go with Martin instead of Goldie I can upgrade Libba to Selwood and Kerridge to Hanners.
Keays only needs one half decent score to start generating more cash.
Liam · 28/06/2016 at 17:02
Ahhhh Higgo what have you done to me.
I'm now considering trading Danger to Hanners so I can trade Petracca to Zorko next week, this would move Hall to M9/F7.
I would lose 10-15 pts per round with Hanners instead Danger but will gain 25pts per game with Zorko as well as having cover.
Please tell me i'm crazy.
wtf · 28/06/2016 at 18:03
WOW
Danners · 28/06/2016 at 20:21
I tried something similar with Goldstein last season… it backfired big time
Liam · 28/06/2016 at 21:18
So should I just trade Stewart to Phillips for cash and get keep Hall in the forward line ?
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:25
Liam, you've got it round the wrong way… Let me give you the 'mail' (get it?)
Danger to Hanners is insanity. Gaz and Danger will fight it out week to week from hereon for top honors – you don't want to miss half that action.
Keep Hall, has a good run home.
Philips on the bubble is good if you've got the trades (plus the DPP is helpful).
Liam · 29/06/2016 at 10:00
Cheers Shades needed some sense talked into me
The Ranger · 29/06/2016 at 13:10
Yeah I tried something like this with Gazza a couple of years back when he was up near $700K and I thought I could use the cash to even out my premos. The premos I traded in got injured, Gazza scored a shitload and I plummeted down the rankings.
If it comes off it would be gold but the chances are slim.
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 17:14
Michael Barlow has busted a finger. Out for 3-4. Jesus!
TRIGGER HAPPY · 28/06/2016 at 18:40
I'm sure a few coaches r gonna now give him the finger. 🙂
Barlow – Parker yep still happy with that early trade
Steeeve · 28/06/2016 at 19:17
I got rid of him when Lyon was holding him out of the side because I couldn't take a full season of that drama. Dodged a bullet.
hedski · 28/06/2016 at 21:29
I'm gonna hold.
POD for finals.
Moustachio · 28/06/2016 at 22:17
I heard Lyon broke the middle one so that when SC coaches ask which finger is broken he would be giving us the bird
Cameron · 28/06/2016 at 17:14
Barlow out for 3-4
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 17:35
he has too go now!
Starkingdom · 28/06/2016 at 18:05
SC Gods are funny
Jim · 28/06/2016 at 17:15
Merrett or Deledio??
Danners · 28/06/2016 at 20:20
Deledio for a reliable scorer
Kenny Powers · 28/06/2016 at 17:18
Agreed Gherkin
Liam · 28/06/2016 at 18:17
I needed some sense talked into me. I need something different to rise up the ranks.
LuckyMate · 28/06/2016 at 17:23
Libba to Montagna? Gives me a better premo and some extra cash to up Trengrove in a couple of weeks and keep Hall as m9/f7
Andrew · 28/06/2016 at 17:24
"Sometimes stocks are low because they are shit!" That's gold Jock, absolute gold!
Simplylogical1 · 28/06/2016 at 17:30
Hey boys.
Thinking of
Dunkley to Phillips
Petracca to Deledio
I dont have enough cash to go from Cox to Deledio (miss out by 10k)
Opinions?
http://i.imgur.com/wHJNYGa.jpg
Click link to see my team
D: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Rance (Austin, Collins)
M: Dangerfield, Selwood, Pendlebury, Ablett, Priddis, Mitchell, Parker, (Dunkley, Stewart, Trengove)
R: Goldstein, Martin (Michael)
F: Martin, Montagna, Wells, Hall, Waite, Kerridge (Cox, Petracca)
Lachy · 28/06/2016 at 20:33
Upgrade Waite
Rivo · 28/06/2016 at 17:31
Gold again Jock & team Your wisdoms are priceless.
I'm now trying to make full premo, with just 11 remaining trades & $32k. Not sure to trade this week as I have 18 on field at this stage.
Team for this week bye round:
D: Rance, Laird, AMT, Williams, Ruggles*, S.Collins*, (Shaw*, Rich*);
M: Pendles, Ablett, Libba, Parker, Petraca, Trengove, Phillips, Ward*, (Danger*, Selwood*, Rocky*);
R: Gawn, Cox, (Goldy*);
F: Dusty, Deledio, Kerridge, Hall, Rose, Grimley, (Wells*, Zorko*).
Option 1: Hold (no trades);
Option 2: AMT, Ruggles & Kerridge to Docherty, Broad & Montagna;
Option 3: AMT, Ruggles & Kerridge to Sloane, Broad & McVeigh.
Unfortunately have to use all 3 trades to get there. Any thought/suggestions appreciated.
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:29
Personally I like option 2.
What?! · 28/06/2016 at 23:54
How the hell have you got that team, with 11 trades left and you have that RUCK combination?!!!
You must of ducked and weaved every possible LTI
f'd up · 28/06/2016 at 23:55
sorry, somehow misread Naitanui and Cox
anthdepa · 29/06/2016 at 07:20
Personally I'm with Shades option 2 is the best possible for your team right not, but do you really need to let go of Juggles he looks like he has some cash to make…? Good luck with the choice you make.
liam · 28/06/2016 at 17:32
6 TRADES help would be appreciated
DEF-Laird,Shaw,Pittard,KK,Simpson,Docherty,(COLLINS,BRAND)
MID-Ablett,R Gray,Pendlebury,Danger,Hannebery,Ward,Neale,Sloane,(Jansen,Trengove,Stewart)
RUCK-Gawn,Blicavs(Cox)
FWD-Martin,Zorko,Franklin,Wingard,Kerridge,Petracca,(Kommer,Grimley)
HELP NEEDED
Lachy · 28/06/2016 at 20:28
Only weakness I see in your team is Blicavs and the 2 on field rookies. Best option is to probably save the trades since 6 is a bit low.
In the Nick of time. · 28/06/2016 at 20:49
As already mentioned, work on those on field rookies in your forward line. Perhaps keep one as bench cover for the season – I suggest Petracca unless he's earmarked to be traded.
Crowmagnon · 28/06/2016 at 21:16
I would be getting KK out ASAP.
pete · 28/06/2016 at 17:32
barlow out for a month trade or keep
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 17:35
Has to go
pete · 28/06/2016 at 17:47
well thats made my trade decision easier
Danners · 28/06/2016 at 20:19
If you are low on trades, you could hold and you only have him on the pine for 2 weeks due to the bye. Probably the best option though is to trade
pete · 28/06/2016 at 21:56
got 13 left 10 after this round i think he has to go
liam · 28/06/2016 at 17:32
any fwds other then montagna 490
jezzahill · 28/06/2016 at 21:57
Jack Gunston – massive POD and super consistent
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 17:35
JJ might be back this week????
Garbor · 28/06/2016 at 17:39
He is back tomorrow
Millicent · 28/06/2016 at 19:01
Surely we should wait a week at least to see how he goes? Also his BE is 114
Bendigodogs · 28/06/2016 at 17:42
What was Adam Schinieders red hot tip? I cannot get sound on the Pod. Thanks.
marcus · 28/06/2016 at 18:17
who should I trade out of barlow and dahlhaus? dahlhaus should be back soon right?
Starkingdom · 28/06/2016 at 18:32
Barlow
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 18:40
Dalhaus i'd say
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 19:13
Barlow. Alias thief get a life
Mark · 28/06/2016 at 18:26
Simpson or docherty?
Starkingdom · 28/06/2016 at 18:31
Doch
Blake · 28/06/2016 at 18:33
Who is more a keeper Zaharakis or Libba?
I N Pieman · 28/06/2016 at 18:40
Zaharakis
Blake · 28/06/2016 at 18:56
Do I trade Libba to Gazza
Crowmagnon · 28/06/2016 at 21:21
yes.
Blake · 28/06/2016 at 18:57
I could also trade in Simpson (via DPP) or Sloane.
Danners · 28/06/2016 at 20:17
Libba anyday
Ryan · 28/06/2016 at 18:48
McVeigh or Z. Williams for B. Smith?
Ryan · 28/06/2016 at 18:48
Or hold and wait for JJ?
In the Nick of time. · 28/06/2016 at 20:42
Pittard?
Davonaise · 28/06/2016 at 18:51
Davonaise is out for the rest of the year!
Need to trade him now for 2017
Bendigodogs · 28/06/2016 at 18:58
Thanks Gavin. I got him last week.
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 20:55
Cheers
Leeds17 · 28/06/2016 at 19:02
Hearing Lids only going to play forward he's good enough to score 105ave from here in the FWD line but could see it coming in big and little scores, Merrett should be more consistent.
anthdepa · 28/06/2016 at 19:10
Need some serious help with the team! Some thoughts will do, team has done to much side ways trading and anything helps. Cheers!
Def – SHAW, Pittard, Simpson, Suckling, Adams, Brown – (COLLINS BRAND)
Mid – DANGERFIELD, SELWOOD, Hanners, Pendles, Parker, Zaharakis, Dahlhaus, Gresham – (HOPPER STEWART Trengove)
Ruck – Gawn, GOLDSTEIN – (Currie)
FWD – Martin, Riewoldt, MOTLOP, Kerridge, Petracca, Goringe – (REID Kommer)
7 Trades and 303,900 in the Bank
Hoping Currie plays this week which gives me 18 pre-teams.
Still got my 3 trades thinking I need to use atleast 1 this week.
Also looking at moving Adams and Brown > Alirr Alirr and Docherty! Thoughts?
Jess_coach · 28/06/2016 at 20:35
Although this game can be cruel and I feel for you, there is absolutely no way you can justify using any of your last three trades at this point. Pretend you have none left, savour how it feels, and use your last three wisely to get you through.
Ps: Alir isn't the best pick either, sorry
Harry · 28/06/2016 at 20:59
Isn't he saying he has 7 trades with all 3 still available this week and he plans to use 1 of those?
FlyingHawkAssassin · 28/06/2016 at 21:24
Yeh he has 7 trades and saying he can use 3 this week!
Jess_coach · 28/06/2016 at 22:04
Oh shit apologies there anth. By all means trade away. Docherty is the best option (assuming you have Shaw), although I'm still not sold on alirr as a DG option. Yet, at this time of the year it comes down to how things work for your entire team, so if you feel its the best option go for it (im trading in a non-playing option this week to loophole collins in def for the year)
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 20:53
Wow 3 trades left? What are you ranked?
Jess_coach · 28/06/2016 at 22:15
My bad. Apologies to Anthdepa again for not reading the above post correctly
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 21:45
You'd be paying overs for Docherty right now. Not saying he's not worth it, but Adams is good cover so I wouldn't trade him.
How about Brand and Hopper to Docherty and Philips?.
Jess_coach · 28/06/2016 at 22:17
This. Adams is averaging 85ish. I brought Rance in last week, and are seriously questioning his ability to average 85+ from this point, or at least enough over to justify a trade.
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:10
It's hard to find the diamond in the rough down back, although Collins is showing promise.
I've had Rance for a while, but pretty much feel the same as you Jess – not sure what to expect, but he just seemed like less of risk than some others (still hoping he'll prove me right in the back half of the season)…
anthdepa · 29/06/2016 at 07:14
Its all good jess, I appreciate all the help. 🙂 Ive gone for Brown > Rance and Hopper > Phillips.
I believe if I keep hopper he'll just be sitting on my bench and he just doesn't seem to make money and I need the big bucks right now, so thats what Phillips is hopefully gonna do. With the Rance trade his at an all time low and we have seen what he in the past…. No matter how bad richmond are play he just gives it his all for the club so we'll have to wait and see. Again appreciate the Help Jess and Shades 🙂
Steeeve · 28/06/2016 at 19:20
I can bring in hanners for petracca right now. Have plenty of money and trades, and am near full premo. Is it worth waiting for the price gap to lessen, or should I aim for full premo asap?
Boltons blues · 28/06/2016 at 22:07
Hanners will fall, tracca will rise, I'm personally waiting on that exact trade
Tommo09 · 28/06/2016 at 19:24
With Barlow out I have to make a decision
I need to decide he there to hold or trade
I have 8 trades left and 3 trades until full premo
What do I do?
Grantc · 28/06/2016 at 19:28
pray
Kev · 28/06/2016 at 20:18
Hold. Get yourself to full premo first
Max · 28/06/2016 at 19:43
Do I trade Parker or Libba out for Gazza or Sloane.
Danners · 28/06/2016 at 20:17
If you have the trades and a full premo team, Libba to God (surprised you don't have him already)
Kev · 28/06/2016 at 20:18
Libba for Gaz
Crowmagnon · 28/06/2016 at 21:19
libba to Gaz. no brained.
Crowmagnon · 28/06/2016 at 21:20
*no brainer. seems kind of ironical, typing that.
IH8 · 28/06/2016 at 19:49
Looking at undervalued super premo keepers.
Which would you choose?
Lachie Neale (how does Barlow out affect him?)
Called Ward
Adam Treloar
Other
Danners · 28/06/2016 at 20:15
Neale shouldn't be affected much by Barlow being out. If you have enough players this round, Neale should be a good option for the rest of the season
Derek · 29/06/2016 at 13:43
Will Zac be affected by Barlow being out ?
FlyingHawkAssassin · 28/06/2016 at 20:31
Need some advice on these trades!
Laird, Smith, RICH, SHAW, Docherty, Amt, COLLINS, BRAND
Ablett, Gray, Priddis, Libba, Parker, DANGER, SELWOOD, BARTEL, MACPHERSON, STEWART, Smith
Cox, Gawn, MARTIN
Martin, Deledio, Franklin, ZORKO, BARLOW, WELLS, Petracca, Phillips
Got 7 trades and 384.5k
Thinking of going:
Barlow to Montagna
Rich to JJ/Simpson
Next week:
AMT to Neale
And simetime in the future Brodie Smith to Simpson/JJ
Should have just enough money currently to do all these trades
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 20:59
Not sure if anyone one still has Adams, but I do and he seems to score better when JJ is in should I keep or trade?
Crowmagnon · 28/06/2016 at 21:12
was thinking the same. I will probably trade Adams to JJ in a couple of weeks.
Dasha · 28/06/2016 at 21:36
lids, montagna, or wait for dahl
Scyb · 28/06/2016 at 22:03
wait for dahl
Jess_coach · 29/06/2016 at 00:07
Are you upgrading or does 'wait for dahl' mean wait for him as you have him as bench cover? Montagna is ave 100 and Dahl is averaging 98, so all things equal, not much difference there. So it all depends who you are upgrading from (if that is the case), and how much less they are likely to score for the 3-4 weeks Dalh remains out. Montagna seems the obvious choice if you are upgrading. If you do the rough maths and dahl only plays the last 6 weeks, he will need an average of 120 compared to montagna's 100 (for the last 6 weeks) for it to pay off equally. So if your question relates to a potential upgrade option, Montagna is clearly the best option, unless you believe dahl is worth around 20 points a game more when he returns. A similar format applies if considering holding Dahlhaus. Its a tough choice but mont seems best option in terms of total overall points. Its up to you as to whether the upgrade is worth the potential point advantage or if it would be better spent on upgrading elsewhere (eg. Libba – pendelbury, etc). But we have definitely recieved a large enough sample size for us to make accurate enough conclusions, so have a think and see what fits best. Good luck
50_Shades · 29/06/2016 at 00:31
Please take Montagna.
If only so Jess doesn't write another essay about it…. No it's good advice Jess seriously, but it's like those foxtel ads, I kept falling asleep trying to get through it 🙂
Jess_coach · 29/06/2016 at 01:00
If people want advice then i dont (didnt) mind taking the time to provide it.. thats what this community is for – you are not obligated to read it. I tried to be consise as possible to get my point across. Again, perhaps i am mistaken, but I had hoped somebody out there could value my opinion, particularly since I have faired quite well in the supercoach rankings. Screw it. No more posts from me.
Exhale · 29/06/2016 at 08:15
I think 50 was having a bit of #communitybanter there Jess.
Perhaps the bye rounds have got you a little stressed…
Ron · 29/06/2016 at 11:58
A little #communitybanter is good for the soul!
Southern S · 29/06/2016 at 12:41
Don't spit the dummy because of one person Jess 😉
Chill · 29/06/2016 at 14:22
too many trolls hanging around these days. No point posting any more.
@TheNoLanguage · 29/06/2016 at 23:41
The dummy spit! Cya Jess
Southern S · 29/06/2016 at 12:40
To be fair the reply wasn't meant for everyone it was for just that person called Dasha and I'm sure they appreciated the effort Jess went to.
jezzahill · 28/06/2016 at 22:04
Feeling pretty good about things right now – a few hiccups along the way but nothing major.
DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Boyd (trade in this week), Laird, Rich (Brown, Collins)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Sloane, Gray, Parker, Shiel, Priddis (Trengrove, Mathieson, Willis)
RUCK: Gawn, Mumford (Goetz)
FWDS: Martin, Deledio, Gunston, Montagna (trade in this week), Dahlhaus, Petracca (Hunt, Phillips (trade in this week))
8 trades left, Hunt up to Zorko and Brown to Hipwood next week and will probably upgrade Rich at some point too.
hedski · 28/06/2016 at 22:22
Bloody Barlow. I blame Ross.
Maybe a reekerjiggerin of trades now.
I blame Ross.
Hmm. Maybe no trades.
I blame Ross.
Multi · 28/06/2016 at 22:49
I agree
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 22:50
freo curse
Juzzy · 28/06/2016 at 23:34
Yep … The best laid plans out the window …. Again.
Adam · 28/06/2016 at 22:23
With Barlow's injury I am going to hold as I only have 6 trades left but would appreciate the community's thoughts on which option of trades to go with until he returns.
Option 1. Rich to Deledio via Brown, and use the remaining money to trade Kerridge to N Riewoldt this week which will fully upgrade the forward line when Barlow returns. Next week swap Lyons with Brown and trade Lyons to Docherty fully upgrading the backline and Brown to a cheap fwd/mid who then swaps with Phillips and Phillips will be F6 until Barlow returns and left with 2 trades after Rd16 and team fully upgraded when Barlow returns.
Option 2. Stick to original plan of Rich to Docherty, next week trade Brown to a cheap fwd/mid who swaps with Phillips and Phillips becomes F6 and Lyons traded to Deledio. Then in Rd17 use remaining funds to upgrade Kerridge to Dahlhaus/Riewoldt and 2 trades left after RD17 and team fully upgraded when Barlow returns.
Leaning towards option 1 as I will have 21 premiums playing in RD 16 instead of 20 but Option 2 allows me to pick Dahlhaus over Riewoldt if he is back in the Bulldogs line up by Round 17.
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 22:30
You are gonna wait for Barlow to return? He will be out probably more that 3-4 weeks its usually 6 weeks with fractured finger.
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 22:33
I would have to say your cooked and season is over with your ideology of trades? You need to get rid of Barlow now!
Adam · 28/06/2016 at 22:37
Viney was sidelined with a fractured knucklebone and returned a week or 2 later last month which was 2-3 weeks early. Hoping the same happens to Barlow. If he is sidelined for more than the given time frame then I would sideways him to Dusty.
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 22:44
Ok good luck
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 22:44
Your cooked!
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 22:56
if you trade to Trengove Free up a lot of cash, if you trade to Montagna Free up more but not as much gives you better options with future trades and dont have worry about how long Barlow will be out? You know Ross will make him come through WALF so he's more than 3-4 weeks. Freo season is shot so no hurry to get him back in and with Ross he wont!
Clarky99 · 29/06/2016 at 21:13
I don't think you can wait for him to return. Different injuries. Viney didn't have to have surgery if i am correct while Barlow did. And with Ross's thinking, no doubt will come through the WAFL. I reckon you should sideways trade him.
Gavin · 28/06/2016 at 22:55
if you trade to Trengove Free's up a lot of cash, if you trade to Montagna Free's up more but not as much gives you better options with future trades and dont have worry about how long Barlow will be out? You know Ross will make him come through WALF so he's more than 3-4 weeks. Freo season is shot so no hurry to get him back in and with Ross he wont!
Murray · 28/06/2016 at 23:02
Thoughts on these trades please,
Barlow to dusty Martin
Libba to Docherty
Kerridge to McVeigh
I consider these trades to be 3 premo sin and only dropping one premo in Barlow. Kerridge and Libba have hit their ceiling. I will be just off fu.ll premo after these three trades and will have 9 trades left. What does one think of these trade Surplus?
Murray · 28/06/2016 at 23:04
Last comment should be options not surplus, sorry
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:15
Hard to fault. If you've decided it's time to move them on.
Juzzy · 28/06/2016 at 23:21
Currently ranked 674.
Under no illusions about making up 800 points on the leaders but …
Think I'm gonna go Barlow to Lycett. (despite his large BE).
Even though the reasonable part of my brain screaming out for Lids or Zorko I have a feeling Lycett will come back after his indiscretion with a point to prove.
Frees up 100+K and gives ruck cover.
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:35
Fuzzy wuzzy was a bear
Fuzzy wuzzy had no hair
So fuzzy wuzzy wasn't very fuzzy
Was he juzzy?
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:39
Sorry, I'm tired and your name reminded me of that.
Id listen to the reasonable part of your brain on this one.
If you don't, you might start reciting stupid poems.
Juzzy · 28/06/2016 at 23:41
Oh Geez … Are you an ex-girlfriend ?
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:56
A juzzy stalker on JR? Sorry, but no.
Now if the ex was into 50 shades (and teddy bears… Why not?), she sounds like my type 😉
Juzzy · 29/06/2016 at 00:01
I have an ex who used to recite that poem.
And I do have a shaved head, so you spooked me a little.
You can have her number. She will be fun for a while and then she will wear you down and ruin you.
Bugger that. Good luck with your SC team 50 Shades.
50_Shades · 29/06/2016 at 00:25
I'll heed your advice Juzzy. Cos thats what we do here in Jocks community, we look out for each other.
Thanks mate and good luck with your team for the rest of the year too.
Juzzy · 28/06/2016 at 23:30
Also … while on the topic of players that need to redeem themselves.
I am a little confused as to why so many are trading out Rich.
If you have held him this long and he is your M6 I would hold for a couple of post-bye weeks.
Still averaging about 85 and if anyone needs to step up after some harsh criticism it is him.
50_Shades · 28/06/2016 at 23:43
He hasn't show he's capable of much more than that.
So a $50k to $100k change over can get you an extra 20 points per week. It's tempting at this point of the year to get that full premo back line.
Juzzy · 28/06/2016 at 23:55
I agree.
My full premo options for Rich are cookie cutters Rance or Gibson who from time to time get lock down key forwards roles.
I think if you have held Rich for this long wait to see how he responds to the tag running through the midfield
If he plays like a girl after the bye I will trade him to Ronnie Andrews.
fan · 29/06/2016 at 00:03
Yeah, He hasn't been that bad really. He's ultimately going to be my Mid/Def bench swing once JJ is back but 85 ave for a D6 isn't that bad.
Derek · 29/06/2016 at 13:38
There are alot of Rich haters out there just hoping for him to fail
ethan · 29/06/2016 at 00:17
Trade out Libba or Wingard?
If I'm trading out Libba who for? Have 110k in the kitty
In the Nick of time. · 29/06/2016 at 00:27
Hanners or Sloane. Crows have a good run and he's running red hot.
Juzzy · 29/06/2016 at 00:27
Hanners.
If you wait a week you may save some dollars though.
In the Nick of time. · 29/06/2016 at 00:22
Money is no issue – what premo do I go for to finalise my MIDs? I need to trade one of Hunter or Libba to afford it – leaning towards Libba.
Already have Gaz, Pendles, Parker, Hunter, Libba, Danger, Ward and Mitchell.
Neale seems the logical trade next week as his BE is easily achievable and his price is very reasonable. Hanners has been on my radar but I'm a little uncertain taking him over Neale. Perhaps Sloane or Steven due to their relatively smooth runs to September? Heeeellllpp!
Loop · 29/06/2016 at 05:44
Barlow out could be good long term for Moustachio. It'll be another trade used by the top three.
Moustachio · 29/06/2016 at 08:43
Not counting my chickens, but did do a little happy dance
Yoursanmine · 29/06/2016 at 10:50
Don't count your chickens before they hatch pal. Most likely you will cop one this week. Good luck!
Adam · 29/06/2016 at 06:53
Should I bring in N Riewoldt and Deledio as the last 2 fwd premiums or D Martin and J Kennedy (WCE). Current forward line is Barlow, Hall, Zorko, Montagna, Kerridge, Lyons.
anthdepa · 29/06/2016 at 07:06
N Riewoldt and Martin
Stevo · 29/06/2016 at 07:55
Kerridge & AMT to Sloane & Montagna or Docherty & Montagna?
murray · 29/06/2016 at 08:56
I have 12 trades left and I can do these 3 trades this week to put me just off full premo. Could you give your thoughts on these trades please,
Barlow to dusty Martin
Libba to Docherty vis dpp
Kerridge to McVeigh via dpp
I consider these three INS to be premo players and am only dropping one premo in Barlow. Kerridge and Libba have hit their ceiling and have to go unfortunately but they have been great.
My dilemma is that I am playing a weak player in my league and could win without trading at all and save 3 trades this week OR do I go for it and try and get to premo as ASAP.??
Pinidu · 29/06/2016 at 10:17
If those are the same players you would target in a weeks, or fortnight time. Then do it now. If you have other targets who have the bye this week then I guess it won't hurt to wait till next week.
murray · 29/06/2016 at 10:26
thanks Pinidu
these 3 are my targets to get at some point, so I think your right to get them now
Tommy · 29/06/2016 at 08:56
Hanners or Steven?
Pitchko · 29/06/2016 at 13:26
Hanners
Danners · 29/06/2016 at 14:06
Hannebery should average more
Tom · 29/06/2016 at 08:57
Is 6 trades too little left if i only have Petracca left to upgrade?
MOC · 29/06/2016 at 09:55
I would say so, but I am in the same boat
ThatDamnRascal · 29/06/2016 at 12:05
Plenty left. Aim is to get to what you think is full premium team as soon as possible. IF any unforeseen shenanigans occur have a handful of trades left to sideways trade anyway.
murray · 29/06/2016 at 08:58
Higgos suggested trade of Dangerfield is certainly food for thought
Southern S · 29/06/2016 at 12:36
Are you joking?
murray · 29/06/2016 at 13:23
why, he is right. It is just like the share market, buy low sell high, one of the basic fundamentals of share investing
JamiesNinjas13 · 29/06/2016 at 13:41
Except the share markey has no trade limits. this idea may be good if you play AFL fantasy.
Cam_H · 29/06/2016 at 13:05
I admit that my initial reaction was a bit like Jock's …
… but it actually does make sense for those with trades to spare.
It's not inconceivable that Danger's price will drop by $100,000 and some fallen premo' like Sam Mitchell or Leigh Montagna will build their way back up by $100,000 in price. Two trades (Danger out, Danger in) for $200,000 profit – same as carrying a rookie to a mid-price status.
Unfortunately I've only got 8 trades left, and still not at full premo', so I'm uncomfortable entertaining such a scheme.
I N Pieman · 29/06/2016 at 13:32
If you had 12 trades & above you could entertain it. Under 10 trades then don't.
murray · 29/06/2016 at 13:37
1 have 12 trades but still risky. I am considering it though as a left field shark move!!
Big G · 29/06/2016 at 09:19
Ok, considering the game on Thursday night – is anyone game enough to pull the trigger on a downgrade to Jesse Joyce or Broad before Thursday's game – keen on getting merrett and upgrading Tippa?
Gavin · 29/06/2016 at 09:38
Maybe Joyce? Broad no, doesn't sound like his JS is good @ all.
Muzzer · 29/06/2016 at 09:45
Joyce!! Poor job security with a couple of GCS midfielders to return, plus he is an ordinary player in an ordinary team.
Big G · 29/06/2016 at 11:19
I only need them for this week, unless anyone has any better downgrade options. They will sit as my D8
Adam · 29/06/2016 at 09:40
Out: Rich and Kerridge. Lyons next week
In: S Docherty and J Kennedy (WCE), Deledio next week
or B Deledio and N Riewoldt, S Docherty next week
Greatly appreciate your feedback/opinions.
Pinidu · 29/06/2016 at 10:15
Lids, Doc and Saint Nick every day of the week. JJK is too inconsistent.
Loop · 29/06/2016 at 09:57
Just looking at the fixture for loop holing during the SC finals. Is it correct that all matches start at about the same time for round 23 or will it be adjusted when its known which teams are playing finals?
Grahame Lebroy · 29/06/2016 at 10:07
As far as i know it will be adjusted and games should be spread over the weekend like normal
Nifty · 29/06/2016 at 11:00
I thought SC finals were from Round 19-Round 22?
Loop · 29/06/2016 at 12:02
20-23
Ron · 29/06/2016 at 12:54
yep
Nifty · 29/06/2016 at 13:10
Has it changed this year?
Grahame Lebroy · 29/06/2016 at 10:04
Higgo your trying to be too tricky mate, trade out Danger come off it. Trades are scarce second half of the year and this move will not only cost you a trade it will also cost you SC points as well. I will be sticking with the man and enjoying his massive output till the end of the year.
Grahame Lebroy · 29/06/2016 at 10:09
Was wondering who would you pick between Gibson and Rance for a final premo spot in the backline? The trade doesn't have to done this week
Loop · 29/06/2016 at 10:14
Gibson for me, next week. Trading out Byrne and hoping that he doesnt lose too much cash this week.
Thegoodguys · 29/06/2016 at 10:46
Stay away from Hawkers. So go Rance.
Harry · 29/06/2016 at 15:07
I would say neither and wait for JJ. Gibson horribly inconsistent, Rance would be better than him if it was urgent
Pinidu · 29/06/2016 at 10:14
Community, I think the Barlow injury has definitely put a spanner in the works but calls for som intriguing trade discussion. The way I see it, whether you trade or not should depend on the amount of trades you have left.
My suggestion is that if you are able to have a full premium team with 6 or more trades left (my situation) – then you should trade Barlow. If you have under six trades left, I think it's worth holding as he already has the bye this week and could only be out for two weeks after that. Thoughts?
murray · 29/06/2016 at 10:44
agreed
Grahame Lebroy · 29/06/2016 at 10:46
I think i will be full premo with only 5 left. I decided that because he has his bye this week and i should have 20 playing minimum, i will sticking him on the bench this week and re assess next week, he may come a week sooner.
The Master · 29/06/2016 at 11:06
Hi Pinidu, I'm going for rank and league wins, I need a non playing loophole and have Kerridge to cover while Barlow is out. so I am keeping Barlow for loophole at this stage, otherwise full premo. Have Wells so hoping he comes back after the bye. I have more than 6 trades left.
Pinidu · 29/06/2016 at 11:17
Damn. You're in a hell of a good position with your team then mate. Am I right in assuming that you're ranked quite high?
The Master · 29/06/2016 at 14:59
Just going for my highest rank so far, currently at 1052 so probably too far back to win.
Southern S · 29/06/2016 at 12:34
Keeping Barlow for sure, 2-3 weeks plus one of those weeks is a bye.
I N Pieman · 29/06/2016 at 13:26
The real problem is Barlow going to be back at all. Ross may see this as an opportunity to put him to pasture. For that reason I am going to trade him
cooky · 29/06/2016 at 11:34
i'm looking at this exact trade, LuckyMate. i'm doing it. Saints have a good run home just hoping his legs hold up.
FlyingHawkAssassin · 29/06/2016 at 11:49
Some help on my team above?
Cam_H · 29/06/2016 at 15:36
FlyingHawkAssassin,
I'm in a vaguely similar position to yourself albeit with a different team composition, but like you, I have a reasonable bank balance, not full premo', and lowish on trades.
I am trading out Barlow for Montagna (as you have also proposed with your team) going from 9 down to 8 available trades, but I'm holding there. There is still plenty more footy to come, and with it will almost inevitably be long term injuries. As tempting as upgrading under-performing mid-pricers to premo's is, the need to insure your team from the impact that injuries will have has become more important for those with less than 10 trades in my view.
If I were you, I would hold all 6 of your trades after making the Barlow to Montagna swap that you've proposed for either; coverage for long term injuries that may strike, or upgrades once you are competing in the finals' rounds.
Best of luck with whatever you decide to do!
FlyingHawkAssassin · 29/06/2016 at 16:56
It all comes down to who would I rather hold Barlow or Rich. Also I will need to upgrade Amt next week to put Bartel back in my defence
Jack · 29/06/2016 at 12:45
Who do you guys suggest
Robbie Gray, Priddis, treleor ?
Kev · 29/06/2016 at 13:20
Treloar
Mac · 29/06/2016 at 13:05
Is Zac Williams a worthy selection? Or will he be just another selection like Rich? Already have Rich but planned on him being bench cover in the long run.
Danners · 29/06/2016 at 14:04
Zac Williams is a worthy selection if you need a POD and feel like taking a risk
SURELY not shirely · 29/06/2016 at 13:12
one short of full premium but its D6 the best position for a not quite premium.The first 5 pick themselves SHAW RANCE LAIRD DOC SIMMMO but who for the last spot Bartel Gibbo the list goes on and all are inconsistent Rich Smith no I am going to keep AMT/COLLINS AND UPDATE A premium to a super premium i.e. a parker to a danger .Surely this makes sense rather than completely getting to full premium and a medal for my chest and please no jokes about THE name not being SHIRLEY
Mike · 29/06/2016 at 13:28
Do I bring in Sloane or Ablett? Sloane has a smooth run home but afraid he will get tagged.
THOUGHTS GREATLY APPRECIATED
Danners · 29/06/2016 at 14:04
Ablett is god… pretty simple to me
Clarky99 · 29/06/2016 at 14:28
Ablett for sure.
Tommy · 29/06/2016 at 13:33
Bring Hannebery in for Kerridge this week or wait a week?
murray · 29/06/2016 at 13:38
wait a week as Hanners be is around 165
Beezneez · 29/06/2016 at 14:20
Hanners could be as low as $540K next week and $525K the week after.
The Ranger · 29/06/2016 at 14:51
Depends if you need him to make up numbers this week.
I'm bringing him in this week 'cos I have to.
I think it was Derek who said earlier in the year that one of his notes from last year was "Pay the price" which I took to mean that sometimes you have to just splash the cash to get the right player and that not doing so can sometimes prove to be costly.
murray · 29/06/2016 at 13:39
I have 12 trades left and I can do these 3 trades this week to put me just off full premo. Could you give your thoughts on these trades pleaseI have 12 trades left and I can do these 3 trades this week to put me just off full premo. Could you give your thoughts on these trades please,
Barlow these threeemo as ASAP.??
murray · 29/06/2016 at 13:41
Sorry, ignore my last post, this one is better.
I have 12 trades left and I can do these 3 trades this week to put me just off full premo. Could you give your thoughts on these trades please,
Barlow to dusty Martin
Libba to Docherty vis dpp
Kerridge to McVeigh via dpp
I consider these three INS to be premo players and am only dropping one premo in Barlow. Kerridge and Libba have hit their ceiling and have to go unfortunately but they have been great.
My dilemma is that I am playing a weak player in my league and could win without trading at all and save 3 trades this week OR do I go for it and try and get to premo as ASAP.??
Ben · 29/06/2016 at 13:57
Team is full premium, but a few mids could be luxury traded to better mids.
7 trades left. Is it worth using one to upgrade either Parker, R. Gray or Priddis to get in Pendlebury or Hannebery?
Or is it better to hold the 7 trades and wait until later? Playing for overall, so feel its best to trade and hope. Thoughts?
azza · 29/06/2016 at 14:27
hey guys so i have my team at full premo (libba at m8) with 6 trades left
with the barlow news, torn between trading him out and keeping him
have kerridge and phillips on the bench up forward, so im thinking it may be worth keeping barlow?
Derek · 29/06/2016 at 15:24
you should keep him and loophole kerridge and Phillips
Banga · 29/06/2016 at 14:28
Nick Riewoldt or Brett Deledio?
josh · 29/06/2016 at 14:39
very low on trades but feel as if my team is pretty solid, especially after managing to rank in the 900s and 2000th for round 13, 14 byes respectively. can field another 20 this week
i want to have 1 more premium defender so that one of smith/yeo can be bench cover, and also trade out kerridge and have 1 bench cover in fwd line
def: shaw, docherty, simpson, boyd, smith, yeo (collins, uebergang)
mid: danger, selwood, ablett, sloane, ward, steven, parker, priddis (zaharakis, trengrove, macpherson)
ruck: gawn, goldstein (grimley)
fwd: martin, zorko, deledio, suckling, hall, kerridge (menadue, phillips)
Bob · 29/06/2016 at 15:09
6 trades left – any help appreciated
D: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Rance (Austin, Collins)
M: Dangerfield, Selwood, Pendlebury, Ablett, Priddis, Mitchell, Parker, (Dunkley, Stewart, Trengove)
R: Goldstein, Martin (Michael)
F: Martin, Montagna, Wells, Hall, Waite, Kerridge (Cox, Petracca)
Should I:
Trade Dunkley to Phillips.
When I can, upgrade cox to either Deledio or Dahlhaus (I am 10K short from upgrading cox to Deledio)
Cheers
Tommo09 · 29/06/2016 at 15:36
Do I hold Hall and Wells?
I N Pieman · 29/06/2016 at 15:48
I plan to. Getting rid of Hall means 2 trades for cash gen. Not easy at this time of year
wombatsfc · 29/06/2016 at 15:55
According the ABS Supercoach/Dreamteam etc are games of chance similar to lotto.
My 100's of hours of researching and planning may not win anything for me in this years supercoach but surely it gives me more chance than an autofil team?
Apparently not
I N Pieman · 29/06/2016 at 16:18
Its all pointless Wombats. Usually the teams that win started doing a team a week from lockout. They don't overcomplicate things & stay away from mid pricers
SURELY not shirely · 29/06/2016 at 16:26
what does that mean a team a week just a dumbo
JoshBoz · 29/06/2016 at 16:05
Would love some feedback on what moves to make
Cash $47,600 Trades 10 (all caps indicate bye this round)
DEF BARTEL McVeigh B.Smith Adams Byrne Laird (COLLINS RICH)
MID DANGER Pendles Ablett Hanners Gray Cripps Trengove Libba (ROCKY KEAYS JANSEN)
RUCK Gawn MARTIN (Goetz)
FWD Dusty Merrett Hall Buddy Deledio Kerridge (WELLS BARLOW)
First trade is locked in as Keays > Phillips
Looking at two more defenders so that Smith is my final D7, so may wait a few weeks on Shaw.
Looking at moving Byrne/Adams for a 450k defender, or Barlow to Montagna, or Libba to Treloar
Any other ideas people have?
pod · 29/06/2016 at 16:21
Unless your in the running for cash, I would hold onto valuable trades (after trade Keays>Phillips). Other than possibly trade out Libba for an out of form premo (GIbbs / S Mitchell) your team is solid.
josh · 29/06/2016 at 16:35
got 5 trades left all premo except kerridge. cop kerridge for the rest of the season or risk it and trade him to dusty?
In the Nick of time. · 29/06/2016 at 17:20
I wouldn't call that a risk. Now's the time to let Kerridge go.
Derek · 29/06/2016 at 17:20
i wasn't shocked when Higgo dropped his bombshell about trading out dangerfield, it had briefly crossed my mind as well.
i've forgotten who posted this, but they said they treat their supercoach team like a business. i like that.
Strictly speaking you want a return on your investment from your players.
If you were to take a players average and assume that is what they will score for the rest of the year (return), and divide it by their price (investment) you will see what the $ cost for each SC point is worth. In supercoach, this is shown as the "MVP". Dangerfield is currently $5,536 per point – the highest in my team. Ablett is $5,066 per point. It is pretty easy to find on your team analyser.
If you used a rough guide of $5,000 per point, assuming your team value – bench, is approx $11.5mil you should score 2300 pts, plus your extra C score. So i use $5,000 as my guide to work out if someone is good value or not. (ie Sloane is $5,296 compared to SMitchell $4,662, interesting)
Players who are way under the $5000 benchmark need to be looked at, however you will find plenty of players like J Waite whose average may not be replicated for the rest of the season.
On the flip side, you will find players like Hodge who has a MVP value over $6000, that is more likely to show that he will do better than his current average.
Probably too late in the year to worry about this sort of analysis, but thought it might be good to know for next year.
If you had a team of "Dangerfield Valued Players", meaning they all had his current return on investment of $5,536 per SC point, your likely score would be around 2077 + extra C score. clearly not good enough. If you had a team of SMitchell valued players you would score over 2600 every week, but it isn't that simple.
I can see Higgo's argument, but the reality is to score as many points as possible, and that is what Dangerfield does, he is a points machine. Plus you can Throw the big C on him and it blows all the MVP calculations out of the water.
Keep that beautiful brain of yours Higgo coming up with ideas, we need to be challenged with these ideas to make us all better supercoachers.
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