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The Standing Room – Rd.13

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The dreaded bye rounds are here folks …. more than ever it’s a time when we need to support one another.

So Far ….

The Good – Stef Martin, Barlow, Yeo, Rocky, Wellsy

The Bad – Priddis, Goldy, Rich, Chad & Robbie

The Ugly – Gibson, Gunston, …. ROOKIES

How are you travelling?

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Dave Ruddick

Brought in Martin…upgraded Cox to Martin and kept Nic Nat at this stage and will decide what to do with him later….Now I know this sounds like a BS story but its true….By accident I had Barlow as Captain and Danger as VC. I had intended to VC Danger and loophole him but somehow ended up putting the big C on Barlow…pulled one right out of my backside…of course Danger could still get more than 160.

discojim

Well done Dave. You deserve it …. you've been a good JR Community man for a long time. Good Karma to you!

Mudguts

Absolutely love it! Gave me a great laugh. Well done!

Scyb

and he did get 160+!

Darren F

The bye rounds really smoke pole! Needs to be one weekend only. Jock you need to get Gillon into the bungalow and vehemothly debate the relevance of three bye rounds.

Southern S

I find the byes interesting and you just know that lots of people are going to stuff up and you can make ground in ranks and league wins.

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Kev

I'm just gonna stop wearing pants whenever Danger plays footy. Costing me a small fortune to replace the stretched jeans every week

min0008

Got rid of Stef 4 weeks ago for Goldy and he finally has delivered but Goldy scored OK. On 629/7 with Dangerfield as captain and only have 17 on field

wombatsfc

Don't worry min Stef scored well against the eagles 3rd best ruck option he'll continue to be a spud against teams with their best ruck playing. Demons got rid of him because he's softer than a fairy fart, punch him in the guts in the first qrtr and he doesn't get another contested ball. It took him 5 weeks to recover from a simple shirtfront that Simmo would have walked away from and tonned up.

min0008

I agree

Wayno76

Didn't u watch any footy last year

wombatsfc

Its round 13 what relevance are last years performances under a different scoring system for rucks. A bloke currently at the bombers was also a great ruck for 1 year at the lions I suppose his current 3 game ave of 89 makes him a viable option as well maybe he should be a lock with his DPP status. Malceski had a great year last year perhaps I should pencil him in for my D6

Rooster XXX

Malceski didn't have a great year last year?

Tommo

Completely disagree. Did you not watch him last year? He averaged 111 from 20 games. Second best ruck in the comp last year mate.

Pete

Well i traded Martin in for Nic Nat after I looked at his remaining draw and with games against Gold coast, Richmond, Gws, Essendon and Port in the next 5 games, I see Mumford as the only tough ruck duel for him. Early days but it might be the difference between getting pendlebury in my side or not.

Rooster XXX

Stupid statement. Only reason Martin scoring has been down is due to the fact West has been playing meaning a different role for Martin where he has been splitting his time b/w ruck and forward. Quite simply this is the same for any ruckmen in the comp is they are splitting the ruck duties 50/50 then scoring will be down. Unlike some of the high scoring ruckmen in the comp Martin generates his points more through high possession counts rather than hit outs so when he is able to roam around as the sole ruckmen and pick up 20 possies and supplement that with some hitouts he has a very high ceiling. That being the case when he gets to play a fantasy friendly role as the sole ruckmen he is a very solid options and is without doubt a proven premium ruckmen in all forms of fantasy football. There is no doubt that if Martin continues to play as the role ruckmen without West in the side is incredibly under priced and would be more than capable of averaging in excess of 100 for the remainder of the season.

josh

if i have danger as vc, if i put the captain on a player that has the bye i still get double points for vc yeah?

Kev

Yep

Thomas

Can someone confirm if we can loophole during bye rounds?
Also, Rance, Enright or Savage?
I need a POD

Danners

Yes and Rance is a solid option

Jess_coach

When Rockliff's 130 isn't enough, so you captain Dangerfield ✌✌✌

Southern S

You not only threw the rule book out the window you burnt the thing. Danger is in stellar form though good move looks like it's gonna pay off.

50_Shades

I traded in Bartel and Selwood today and had the VC on Danger… Feels like a good day 🙂

Jess_coach

Nice 50 shades. Thats the three top scorers !

50_Shades

Yep, every one I know has been downgrading so I was starting to doubt the plan – glad i saw it through.

Good call on your part too! Is it enough to get you the win?

Jess_coach

Yes im in five leagues and have only lost 2 league games all year

Southern S

Nice one. I got bartel when he was about 450k he's been so reliable.

Cameron

Would you rather keep wines at m8 or kerridge at f6?

Southern S

Kerridge. Lock in a mid premo that will pump out big scores.

Danners

Wines at M8

wombatsfc

Keep Kerrige, both are only bench players post byes and kerridge covers 2 lines.

Billioux

Would still like clarity to previous thread, re CLUB BYES TOP18 scorers re VC C loophole. I assume u all understand that SC rule.. I dont. Thanks 4 previous input.

Neverweaken

I'm taking Dangers VC score. So I have moved C from Gawn to Dustin Martin who is on the ground but with the bye.

Billioux

Danger gun. think it cool,however wat if Dusty is deemed not in your top 18 scorers.As per rules para 5 then no good. I getting hung upon jargon i know. Good VC Nweaken

Chuboi

Can you use a bye player and put the C on him to claim a VC score? Would then put playing player on bench as emergency.

Danners

Yes

Neverweaken

You have no bye players on the field?

Chuboi

None, due to trading fattened rookies with the bye down to bubble rookies without the bye. Next week will trade premos with the bye from this round in. Will use 9 trades throughout byes but will have good scores throughout byes and hopefully will emerge with full premo.

Tommo09

I will obviously take Dangers score so do I do the usual thing
Will the E score of shaw count towards my top 18 or will I have to keep Shaw C

Danners

Put the C on a bye player to get Danger's score. Otherwise it should count

tophawk

Brought in Steffo Martin and Rocky this week.

Put the VC on Rocky. Took his score over Danger. Danger goes mad again. wow. I guess you can't win them all.

Cam_H

130 Captain's score is 'bankable' … occasionally your back-up will fire … Danger could have 'done a knee' in the first 5 minutes of the game for all you know. You did the conservative thing – sometimes it works, sometimes not so much. It's not a bad decision.

Johnny

I had the Vc on gray, missed danger this week 🙁 your not the only one

Shags

Gotta say wrapped I didn't, take Rockys VC and stuck with Danger. Just wasn't sure how (if) the loophole worked through the bye, seems to be some uncertainty about this so the risk payed off this week anyway.

Hawks

I hate barracking for Geelong players, but Danger (C), Selwood & Bartel, about 600 SC points between them

Johnny

Cannot believe I Vc gray over danger especially after last week wow

Billioux

ok I am over my self re C/vc Top 18 rule. If u all think it ok,no worries. Maybe read it tho,perhaps.

Grantc

I'm glad I took the risk and went Danger over the vc on Rockcliff, the interpretation of the rules are confusing at best but I guess after this week we will know if the loophole works or not. If not there maybe a few people venting if so a few people gloating.

johnno2908

Ok, after reading this for the 50000th time, I think I have finally interpreted this weird way of writing.
Lets say you captain a player and he scores 5 and goes off with a knee injury, his captains score would be 10.
Lets say you have 19 scoring players and all 18 other players score over 11. Your captains score is not in your best 18 so will not count to your round score, however it is still technically your captains score thus your VC does not get doubled

Iamme

Had VC on Rocky and put the C on Shaw…coz I figured lighting wouldn't strike twice for Danger…how wrong I was. Just hope Shawy tracks them up against the bombers tomorrow, I think he should.

Southern S

Doubt it because GWS will be kicking goals all day long?

Iamme

racks

Kev

This was in Herald Sun's supercoach preview article from a few days ago.

"All the unavailable players remain live across the weekend, as if they are playing in the last game of the round.,"

So there ya go, stop asking

Grantc

Of the SuperCoach website. Set a Captain (and Vice Captain) as you normally would for double points. If your Captain's doubled score is NOT in your Best 18 scores, then their points will not count – you simply get your Best 18 scores only. Similarly, if your Captain's doubled-score is NOT in your Best 18 scores, you do NOT automatically receive double points from your Vice Captain – your Vice Captain only receives double points as per any other round, if your Captain does not play for any reason.

josh

1509 after 12. danger captain. going solid so far

Johnny

Crazy score!

wombatsfc

1121 from 8 with Danger as C. Gawn, TMitch, ZMerret, Parker, Shaw, Zaha, ZWilliams, McTip, Petracca, Trengove to play
1900 looking like par

HallyM8

Thoughts on keeping Tippett until he comes back to be a r3/f7 or will he be out for too long

Tommo

Will be out for too long to hold.

Banned_34

I read he may be out until finals

Sarah

What's par this week?

Pauly Walnuts

Dunno Sarah, I'm projected to get 1963 atm , and I will happy with that after not replacing Nic Nat

Nigel

1900-1950 which is like a 2300-2350 in a normal week.

tophawk

It will be 2000+ IMO. Especially after Danger's, Jelwood's and Bartel's performances tonight. All three are heavily backed by coaches.

Wayno76

Hey community just a little help with captain choices.
I've got L. Neale as my VC at 149 but I want to win this league match in my own league against a friend and he has Danger as captain at 346 the only decent choices I have for captain it Gawn or Shaw. Is it worth putting the C one one of them , thinking Gawn has no Tippet and Shaw has Bombers to hope for a better score than Danger…. Or should I just keep Neales score ?

Pauly Walnuts

Bank Neales mate

Wayno76

Cheers I was thinking that just thought someone would talk me into doing a risky move haha I'll bank Neales

Cam_H

Am I wasting cash to bring in Docherty next week when Suckling would seem to do more than adequately in my final D1-D6 at $160,000 cheaper?

50_Shades

Gotta have the Doc.

red5jc

I'm bringing him in

SC Ace

Thought Danger was on target for another double ton at half time but fell well short in the end (tagged 2nd half, inj?). Have the VC on him, should I take his score or see if Gawn can go bigger against a ruckless Sydney?

50_Shades

Are you serious?

Southern S

pfft you're funny.

Sinclair and Nankervis aren't ruckmen?

Starkingdom

good luck

Derek

Roller coaster weekend. RGray, Wingard, Rich, Stewart and Collins not able to crack 80, but then to have Barlow, Rocky, Danger, Bartel and Even Blitz pump out big scores, don't know whether to be glad or sad.Reckon I'm looking around 1950-2000 with players left. Only have 18 playing so have to take everyone's scores

Is there anyone who has at least 20 playing this week?

Iamme

Got 22

Moustachio

Yes 20, but I have Gunston and Gibson zzzzz

johnno2908

I have 20, but almost a full bench of premiums so lots of rookies on ground. Couple that with some underperforming premos and a fair few scores in the 70s, even with rockliff, barlow, and Danger C I am still only looking at 1900 to 2000. Hoping for a good Sunday.

hedski

I have 21. Bottom 3 scores so far are gibbo adams and collins I think. With danger cap and not counting those 3 I'm @ 1350 with parker gawn petracca trengove shaw zaha and tippa to go.

David

Have vc on danger if I put capt now on say kerridge will I get dangers score?? Thanks community for advise.

50_Shades

Yes you will

Alex

Can someone please explain this to me, I'm a little confused.
I have 17 players on the ground and have a player selected as a EMG who played and scored.
Now it says that your score is from your best starting 18 players and no bench. But then it says that if you have further players available. You can set EMGs. And they will continue to replace non starting players in your 22 including bye players. And that their score will only count of its in your best 18.

I'm not sure if that means my EMG players score will be recorded or if it will be discarded as I have a player in the same position that has his bye.Anyone know what the deal is community?

Neverweaken

I think you emergency player score will be counted against a bye player. But you're right it's confusing or we supercoachers are making it confusing.
Why didn't you just put your emergency on the ground?

hedski

Glad I kept Barlow.
Sh!##y I punted Wells (Priddis)
Glad I vcd Danger.
Suckling looking good.
Go cats.

Neverweaken

Punted wells but brought him back again.

Southern S

That was a bold move that has paid off.

50_Shades

The life of supercoach

Nicholas

Menadue or Macpharson to Phillips from collingwood? If I go menadue I can go Nic Nat to Goly next week whereas macpharson leaves me with nic nat to martin and a lot of cash and still leave me with a dpp forward/mid in the centre. Leaning towards trading out Macpharson as maybe Menadue gets a game and I am struggling to field 18 for the next two weeks

Pauly Walnuts

I'm not getting carried away with Martins score, I'll be going Nic Nat to Goldy, I would have done it this week but his price will come down further.

Go Menadue ,I have Macpherson also,he can be your donut if required

Nicholas

If I go macpherson I will have a handy swing between mids and forwards whereas trading out menadue leaves me with no swing

Jacko

Phillips from collingwood is a mid/fwd so he will still provide you with that handy swing. Just trade whoever you need to trade to get GOLDY in

Tommo09

This will sound crazy
I am not sure about taking Dangers score. I probably will but am not certain about it
I think Shaw might go HUGE and beat dangers score
I may keep Shaw as C.
If it pays off it could be really good for me but if it backfires I could be in some trouble.

johnno2908

Is there even any reward vs the risk. If he scores 200 you gain 27 points. He scores 130 you lose 43 points. He gets injured. .. good luck either way though. I reckon shaw and gawn will both go 150+

Tommo09

Actually I will take Dangers score
Is there any chance Grimley will play. I will put the C on him
I don't want to risk it with a bye player

johnno2908

Definitely works with a bye player. I untwisted their words above:
Lets say you captain a player and he scores 5 and goes off with a knee injury, his captains score would be 10.
Lets say you have 19 scoring players and all 18 other players score over 11. Your captains score is not in your best 18 so will not count to your round score, however it is still technically your captains score thus your VC does not get doubled

Tommo09

So if you put a bye player as C and therefore it is not in your best 18 and VC is doubled and your emergency is counted in your best 18
Is that right?

johnno2908

"If you have further available players in any position during these multi-bye rounds, you may set Emergencies for those positions as usual. Emergencies will continue to replace non-starting players in your Starting 22 with the usual rules, in the same position (including any 'bye' player that you may have left in your Starting 22) and their score will only count if it is in your Best 18"

red5jc

A bird in the hand…..Take danger.
The ball might not get to the backline much

Tommo09

Rance or Enright?
Rance for points
Enright for a POD

I will get JJ when he comes back and this is my last position in defence

CapTkAoS

I'm in the happy position of having 20 starters. And looking around my leagues matches, there seems to be very few who don't have at least 18 starters this week. I've only used 2 trades. Mitch brown is still stinking up my team and probably will be among my lowest scores. Gunna dip into the war chest and swap him for gaz or dusty via some dpp swings before today's games. Should help me for the following 2 weeks. Any reason I shouldn't do it?

Kev

Week is a long time in footy mate. Reckon next week a good chunk of us will be screwed no matter what. Just trade as normal

I N Pieman

Damn Danger! 2 weeks in a row I've missed his C score

Moustachio

Think Danger simply must be VC'd from here on out

Southern S

Exactly, he was the number one SC scorer before he got the 200+ last week. Has to be vice or captain according to the stats.

I missed out last week wasn't about to that again.

Southern S

to do that again*

I N Pieman

Won't be making that mistake again. Just didn't think he'd do it again

Southern S

Yep I had that mindset too but just had to go with the no.1 player for the year, went with the stats over the gut feeling.

Bolton's Blues

you will VC or C him next week against the saints at SS and he will spud it up, if that happens, curse you I N Pieman

Alex

Same, Pieman, this week l took Rodcliffs 130

I N Pieman

Same here mate. Looked pretty good till Danger stepped out

Derek

maitherson 29 touches in seconds must play next week.
Tom Bell gone for the season

Southern S

We've seen players get 40 touches in the seconds and not get back in the AFL squads, that saying you are probably right about Mathieson.

Neverweaken

1425 with 6 to play. Shaw, Gawn, Zaha, Tippa, Petracca and Oliver. Danger as captain. Should give me 1900 minimum.

Neverweaken

Just realised have 19 players so will lose Stewarts 56. Hopefully should still get 1900

gator59

CONFUSED,, Need help community re the VC Loophole…. I have the VC on Danger in order to get his score can i leave the C on someone like Docherty that is on field that has the bye or do i have to put the C and the Emerg on someone that is on my bench SO BLOODY CONFUSING…

Pauly Walnuts

All good Gator, do it as you said

gator59

thanks pauly

Tommo09

Can't believe I am actually considering this
Take Dangers VC score or keep Shaw as C?
I think will go huge against Essendon

Southern S

Get a grip lol.

Tommo09

Thanks Southern
I just needed someone to tell me to pull my head in and take Dangers score

Southern S

haha yeah you'd be kicking yourself if Shaw gets an 80, which is possible this week I reckon.

tophawk

Shaw will probably pump out a decent score against the bombers today. I have Shaw as well. I could whack the C on him today. But I am not. I am taking Rocky's 130 as VC. PERIOD. 260 SC points out of the C/VC play is very solid. Let's say Heater does deliver a 170 today. I will get those 170 points as well and Rocky's 260. (430 points out of these two players) You will get 340 for Shaw and 130 for Rocky (470 points in total) if you had him. Your risk in contemplating your move his pretty huge for a net gain of 40 points. If Shaw get injured before half time, or has a bad day plain and simple, the price will be a lot more than a 40 point gain mate.

Your call though. Good luck!

Cheers

Tommo09

I am going to keep Dangers score I think

Southern S

If you don't then you have a gambling problem 🙂

Southern S

Wow we put Goldy in 'the bad' when he gets 100 with Majak in the team too? Not a bad score by any means.

Johnny

Bloody missed danger vc

My options are hannaberry in the wet, ward or shaw??

Do I take the gamble on shaw!?

Starkingdom

Hannas loves wet

Southern S

Hanners

Johnny

Lol 30 at half time. Stuffed up big time out of the race I go

Starkingdom

not his best half (about 40), not over yet

Southern S

Sorry Johnny 🙁

CoachDamo

Can anyone tell me much about Tom Phillips' job security?

I need to downgrade today to bring in some cash (already bringing in Trengove) – his DPP status is useful.

@RoyWetard

I left my decision about who to make captain out of Gawn and Shaw to a best of 7 coin flip. NBA rules so for flips 1 and 2 Gawn was heads and Shaw was tails. Flips 3 and 4 had Shaw as heads, Gawn as tails. Flip 5 had Gawn as heads, Shaw tails. 6 Shaw was heads, Gawn tails. Flip 7 was Gawn heads, Shaw tails. Ended up going Shaw, Shaw, Gawn, Gawn, Gawn, Shaw and on the final flip, it was heads so Gawn is my captain.

Tommo09

Love it 🙂
Let's hope it works out for you

Starkingdom

Anyone else impressed with Tarrant, could be late charge for top six DEF prem?

Southern S

Little early for that call after two weeks in a row of good scoring.

Starkingdom

Good point, conservative view.. The way he's attacking the contest and taking contested grabs, I think he might of matured, and at his current price represents good value..

Neverweaken

Was thinking that last week. Hate paying top money for defenders. Other than Doc, Simpson, Shaw, everybody else is risky for the dollars they cost. Looking at you Gibson.
Sometimes you have to go with your gut.

The Ranger

Been really impressed with him for a while now and he was pretty good last year too.
Big ball move SC wise tho.

THE SALTSHAKER

Laird, Boyd, Bartel are worth the coin. Pittard and Gibbo Rance are risky

Tommo09

This is my backline premiums
Shaw, Laird, Docherty
Am planning to get Simpson next week and JJ later on
Do I get Enright, Rance or Savage for my last spot?
Am leaning towards Enright because of the Pod and proven scoring ability but Rance is averaging more
I think I need the POD

tophawk

Swimming pool (water polo) conditions at the SCG today. It is absolutely hosing down. Have a look at the BOM weather radar………….Coaches looking to execute a captain play might be safer to look for a player from the bombers-GWS match under a nice dry Etihad stadium roof.

Just my one cents worth.

Starkingdom

contested possession bonanza, JKennedy, Hanneberry, Parker, Vince, Viney, take your pick..

Starkingdom

Demons confident today..

steve1

hi guys, heres a question without notice. anyone on your 2017 radar from essendon? could be some bargains, i suppose watson will be good value.

Holty

if he plays next year. he is still undecided.

Kev

Wonder how they'll set the pricing, Steve. Injury discount? Or will they be priced as what they were start of this season.

Big Heppell fan.

steve1

Yeh im not sure Kev. Crowley was heavily discounted after his dopping suspension wasnt he? I assume it will be the same as that ( i hope anyway) yeh Heppell will be good value i agree.

Johnny

Trade out macpharson or menadue. Trading out macpharson leaves me with a way to swap from mid to forward whereas trading menadue leaves me with none. If i trade out Macpharson am forced to go Stefan Martin whereas if I trade out Menadue I can bring in Goldy

Redgumwon

What do you need more a DPP link of Goldy? Martin scored well again yesterday but I don't think he looked like the Martin before the hit by May. Martin may have turned things around through? Both of your Menadue and MacPherson need to be traded. In the bye rounds they only take your best 18 scores. So you can get away with fielding 18 players. Do you need Goldy next week? You can get him a lot cheaper in a couple of weeks