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THE PANIC ROOM – THE BYES AWAKEN

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It’s what we’ve whispered of for months.PatchCoachKingsLogo

A great sweeping plague, sent in the dead of winter, sent to pick off a third of our teams a week.

We said to be ready, we said to plan, to stow players away for this dark time. Most listened. Most set aside nights to frantically scrawl out names and numbers, trades and tips.

But oh my sweet summer child, if you didn’t scribble down a plan, you didn’t look ahead to this dark, pregnant cloud that envelops us, you are about to learn why we prepare.

The byes are here.

The Byes are Here

THE NEWS

The biggest hit this week has been in the rucks, and for some three trades are almost needed in that line alone. Crouching’s favourite leaper Nicholas Naitanui this week had surgery on his troublesome Achilles, sitting him out for the next six to eight weeks. He needs to be traded. This week’s Patch Up is looking at what we can do on that front.

Just as his ownership was rising and many were jumping on, big man Kurt Tippett has done his hamstring, and badly. He’ll sit out the next six weeks minimum and also needs to be given the flick.

Shane Mumford has been rested against the Dons, with his ankle flaring up in last week’s win over the Swans.

To add to the Eagle’s woes, Scott Lycett, has been dropped for disciplinary reasons.

Should only miss a week, so would absolutely hold. He should leap in scoring with NicNat out and will be a solid pick up in a week or so for R3/F7. Bulldog Luke Dahlhaus has done a knee and is expected to be out for a month. I don’t know what’s in the water bowl down at the kennel but it’s not got enough… knee… strengthening… protein… yes, that’ll do… in it. I’m totally a doctor. I mean I go for Essendon. Sports science is my ~thing~ Supercoach Science Anyway, I’m supposed bring you news, not bring you love, or bad jokes, or Simpsons references. Bloody tricksy timing from Mr Dahlhaus, especially considering his form. If you’re able to hold him – if you’ve planned out and know you’ll have 18 each week – hold him. If you can’t, I’d consider bringing in a rookie, making cash out of the rookie and once Dahl is back trade straight back into him.

Our backlines (or forward lines) receive a boost this week, with Marcus Adams and Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti returning for their respective sides. Both swingmen are fairly crucial for us and their clubs so it’s nice to see them back. Michael Hartley also returns to help out an Essendon backline that will be bombarded on the weekend.

Stevie J will miss an extended period, which while isn’t significant on its own may see the likes of Jack Steele and Toby Greene play deeper forward.

For those that got exhausted jumping on the bandwagon, Jarryd Waite will miss this week, as will Norf captain Andrew Swallow.

And, because we’re not quite done with ruck news yet, Trent West has been dumped, leaving Stefan Martin as the solo ruck at Brisbane.

THE PATCH UP

It’s all happening in the ruck this week as all our big men fall, or in the case of Scott Lycett trip over his own shoelaces. There’ll be some looking at two trades involving NicNat and a ruck/forward. So, how do we patch it up? There are a few ways to do this. You could try to go up to whichever of Todd Goldstein and Maxy Gawn you don’t have and just lock them away and toss the key in the pond – assuming the pond hasn’t frozen over. This is the easiest, safest and likely the best way to deal with the problem. If you’ve got a second trade needed, look to a quality forward – or to a rookie with eyes to upgrade next week. The second way to do this is to make the most of the last tidbit of information from The News. Do you bring in Stefan Martin?

This is a shark move, and I love it. It’s been overlooked that Stefan was the clear #2 ruckman last year, averaging 110. His average with Trent West in the side over the past month has been under 60, and has been knocked about up in the Sunshine state.

But, he averaged 105 in his first three, and was on track for a 140 in round 4 before he got cleaned up by the Suns’ Steven May. He might not bounce back this week, but after a week off – which he hasn’t had, despite the hit – I think we might see the Stefan of old roaring through the ‘Gabba.

I don’t think he’ll average 110 from here out, but I think 95-100 will easily be in reach for the big man. If he doesn’t hit his breakeven of 82 I’ll eat a shoe.

Oh, and he’s under 350k. I’ll just leave that there.

The third way is taking a punt on a cheaper ruckman, like a Daniel Gorringe or a Majak Daw to see you through until your rucks return. But this is a silly option. Don’t do it.

In general bye-related advice, I subscribe to the Peter Higginbotham school of two or three downgrades this week, and going BANG BANG next week.

TRADING PLACES

Really touch choices this week, community. Stewart concerns me, and the old maxim ‘Never trust a Hawthorn rookie’ is ringing in my head. But he’s like a siren, wailing of his cash generation. With Hodge and O’Rourke to come back he can’t be assured a place, but… he’s played really well.

Also a special guest in this week’s Eddie Murphys as we are visited by a premium!

Eddie Murphys

-100 – Kade Stewart
-61 – Jarrad Jensen
-51 – Logan Austin
-48 – Jack Trengove
-43 – James Rose
-40 – Majak Daw
-37 – Sam Collins
-22 – Will Hams
-4 – Oscar McDonald
4 – Tom Rockliff
20 – Christian Petracca

Dan Aykroyds

199 – Bryce Gibbs
184 – Josh J Kennedy
168 – Lachie Neale
168 – Adam Treloar
165 – Todd Goldstein
160 – Josh P Kennedy
153 – Lance Franklin
150 – Dayne Zorko
136 – Heath Shaw
130 – Jeremy Howe
125 – Luke Parker

CAPTAIN McCAPTAINFACE

Jeez putting the VC on Paddy Dangerfield paid off last week. Wow-wee. What a game. You’d lock him in for the C again this week, right?

Hold that though. We’ve had two 200s so far this year, and the week after each of them we’ve seen Shaw crash to an 81 and Rockliff to a 102. When players have games like that, opposition analysts tend to notice.

TableIs Danger above that? There’s no doubt he’s a step above the rest of the competition, but I can’t see the Dogs letting Danger get off the chain that easily. Worthy VC option, but I think Dan Hannebery is the go-to VC option this week, with Max Gawn – (sorry Jock) the most viable captaincy option.

Going up against Callum Sinclair and a rookie, as well as being likely to unhinge his jaw like a snake and ingest some poor bastard whole, Gawn is also playing interstate. Thanks to this lovely table provided by Dex this week which shows Gawn’s record interstate and in Victoria.

Max Gawn is a lovely shade of orange for me this week.

Notable other options include Heath Shaw – playing a frankly terrible Essendon, and Matt Priddis, who treats weaker teams like the Lions (who they’ve got this week) like a snake on whacking day. Pity Barry White isn’t the pre-game entertainment. However, Priddis will be marginally down without NicNat and Lycett.

That’s it from me, community, but before we go – for those who are slightly confused by the byes, a refresher.

The top 18 scores count in your final score. If you have someone on the bench with an E and an onfield donut, they will come on and be counted if their score is top 18. Players with the bye are not locked out until the final game starts. They can be used for the captain’s loophole. We’ve got three trades each week during the byes. Any further questions, hit me up below.

RIGHTEO guys and gals, let’s hit these byes right in the face. Let’s see some 2000s as we show the byes who is boss.

Rip it a new one, community.

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Mac

Call me stupid but I'm slapping the VC on Stefan Martin this week. If he's going to go big any week, this week is the week.

Steeeve

Stupid.

Just kidding, impressive plumbs.

Mac

Got Danger in reserve and the VC option enables a risky selection as skipper.

Patch

PHWOAR the #yolo vibes are strong with this one.

Mac

Gotta take some risks.

Patch

Like it mate. Show's you're thinking about the thing.

I N Pieman

Well I guess that's one way you could get a ton from him. Double his score

Mac

Very true Pieman, it might bite me on the ass but it might also be a genius move. Only time will tell.

I N Pieman

Your a braver man than I. Good luck Mac

Mac

What's there to lose? This is his opportunity to shine!

Good luck to you too Pieman.

I N Pieman

Cheers Budddy

Rick Grimes

Looking like a gun move so far. Stef is back!

Mac

No worries fellas.

Keithy

Wow, well done mate. Bigger balls than me. Played it safe and went, Nic Nat to Gawn. If only I had listened.

Cliffy

In need of help coaches. With the Nic Nat problem now arising for my side (not the first time I’ve had to use trades for a Premo going down with an LTI this season) I’ll have to make a call on him this week. :'(

My team:

DEF: Shaw, Bartel, Tippa, DBJ, Tucker, Collins (Docherty(BYE), Simpson(BYE))

MID: Danger, Pendles (BYE), Hannebery, Ward, Ablett (BYE), Libba, Wines, J.Smith (BYE) (Hall (BYE), Davis (BYE), DMacPherson (BYE))

RUC: Gawn, NIC NAT (Wyatt (BYE))

FWD: Martin (BYE), Zorko, Wells, Barlow, Adams, Petracca (Kerridge (BYE), Menadue (BYE))

Trades Left: 13 (prior to trades)
Remaining Cash: $50,600

It’s clear after counting that I’ll be fielding 17 players this week with Nic Nat gone despite my Bye planning prior to the Bye weeks. I can elect to deal with Nic Nat this week to get an 18th player in in Goldy (requires 2 trades however, and will mean I’ll have next to not enough cash for Rd 14 upgrades next week) and get those inevitable trades out of the way now. The most cash I could have leftover is like $176,000 if I went, for example:

J.Smith – Stewart
Nic Nat – Goldy

Alternatively, I could leave Nic Nat alone this week, and instead downgrade J.Smith to a cheap rookie (thinking the likes of Trengrove or Stewart), and bank some cash to make upgrades next week to my side, and get Goldy in for Nic Nat when he drops in price and is healthier (BE of 160 this week for Goldy, and is not 100% fit still I would’ve thought). I’ll still manage this way to have 18 players on field this week if I go down this path.

Over to you guys…

Option 1: Just get the Nic Nat dilemma out of the way this week
Option 2: Hold Nic Nat, wait for Goldy to come down in price to grab in a later week and generate cash with your trades this week for future upgrades (i.e. continue to build your team around Nic Nat)

Cheers

Patch

I like option 2 mate; if you've got 18 + NicNat you should be fine to hold!

EDIT: you need to make sure you've got cash for upgrades – no love for Stefan though?

Chris

Definitely option 2, although I would also consider Martin.

Cliffy

Yeah had Martin to start the season at R2 alongside Gawn, suffered third-degree burns yeah haha

Cliffy

It's tempting though isn't it to go back to him now that West is out of the side, don't know if I can have the plumbs to put up with Stef again though…

liam

Hello community!
Is it worth going a J Smith to Trengove or Stewart?
The issue is, I want Trengove but I will only have around 5 mids playing round 14 so he will not help his, if i trade in Stewart I will have 6 playing mids and 50k extra!

Also

Is it worth going C Menadue to J Rose
and
NNat to Martin or wait a week to see how he ans goldy both play (I will have 18 starters this week)
Cheers!

Patch

Stewart's job security worries me, so I think you're better off with Trengove in the long run.

Menadue to Rose I can't fault, but it's entirely sure if you're confident enough on jumping on Stefan now or want to take a cautious approach.

Jim

Who are the best options for VC and C this week?

I have Shaw, Gray, Danger, Wells, Goldy?

Thinking maybe VC Gray and C Danger?

110

yer me 2

110

Hi I'm ranked in the top 110, im so good and awesome 🙂

1

what did I miss?

Jim

Who to pick out of Shiel and Ward?

Patch

Would go Ward, mate.

Hazey

I'm excited about bringing Ward in after his bye already!

Muffmaster2000

Patch this is by far my favourite fantasy footy read of the week – keep up the great work

Patch

Cheers Muffs! <3

James

Hey Community, I currently have 3 donuts w/o any trades this round.
My current plan is:

J.Smith > Trengove
McPherson > Stewart

This will bring me down to only 1 donut. I have NicNat, but I am thinking of holding him this week because of Goldy's high BE, and bringing him in next week. Is it worth it? I don't really want to do a third trade right now since I will be at 12 after the two i mentioned above. Some outside insight would be appreciated!

Steeeve

Depends on your war chest. I'd bring Goldy in asap to avoid the donut personally.

James

220k before the two downgrades. How much is Goldy going to drop?

Patch

Remember only 18 players count this week James, not the 22.

Stefan a possibility, as a 'cash cow' or a keeper

Steeeve

Any defense downgrade options on the horizon if we miss on Logan Austin?

Patch

If Sydney's defensive woes continue, Aliir Aliir and Tyrone Leonardis could both be in for more game time, but it doesn't look it

Steeeve

Hmm at this stage my trades are:
Stewart, Trengove and Max Gawn in.
J Smith, G Hewett and NicNat out.

But I'm very tempted to instead wait until after Melbourne's bye to get Gawn and instead go:
Stewart, Trengove and Austin in.
J Smith, G Hewett and Sam Kerridge out.

The second option will give me a bigger war chest, and mean I can get rid of Ruggles and Menadue (when I upgrade to premos) whilst keeping Tippa and especially Petracca for longer.

Patch

Think getting Gawn in now is a better move personally.

You've lost me in the second part though – Ruggles and Menadue aren't on the list of those you're trading out?

Steeeve

Yeah sorry haha
So if I wait on Gawn my upgrades the following week will be Lids and Rance for Menadue and Ruggles.
If I get Gawn I won't have enough money for that so looking at Petracca (with cash left to make) and Tippa out for Lids and Rance.

Alan

For a POD should i go stef martin or blicavs? thanks

Patch

Would go Stef – Blicavs very up and down due to the setup down the Cattery.

The Ranger

Hahahaha!!! That cartoon is solid gold.
Nice one Patch, keep up the good workl mate.

Nicholas

Here is my team:

Defenders- Laird, Smith, Bartel, Shaw, Rich, Tippa, Collins, Brand

Midfielders- Ablett, Danger, Parker, Selwood, Priddis, Gray, Libba, Wines, Ben Ken, Smith, MacPerson

Ruck- Gawn, Nic Nat, Cox

Forawards- Franklin, Martin, Wells, Barlow, Zorko, Kerridge, Petracca, Menadue

12 trades left and 30k in the bank.

Looking at bringing in the Doch and possibly Deledio or Montagna next week, leaving me at full premo apart from maybe Wines, Libba, Brodie Smith and Rich but they could come good. Some downgrades will need to be made to generate cash. I want to bring in Kade Stewart and someone else but not sure yet. My round 14 bye is really week with 15 players on field due to injuries and dropouts such as Nic Nat, Menadue, Brand, Macpherson however I can fix this with a bit of trades. Assuming Menadue and Brand do not get named my byes are something like 19-15-17. Looking for some help to fix my bye structure problem and any advice is greatly appreciated.

I N Pieman

Majestic as always Patch. Seems Gawn travels well. And with Nic Nat Paddy whacked it seems an ideal week to bring him in. Good luck for the bye rounds community. May the SC gods be with you!

Patch

And to you too, I N, may the points rain down on you this weekend! Cheers mate!

Alex

Zorko, Merret, Lids pick two. (Give reasoning)

I CANNOT DECIDE

Mac

Zorko and Deledio.

Proven Scorers, need I say more.

Derek

Merret plays for essendon

Tommo

Pretty straightforward mate. Zorko is just a deadset gun, Lids is proven and while Merrett can go big, has shown he can spud it up.

Patch

Zorko and Merrett.

I think Zorko is one of the few members of the Brisbane engine room that can hold their heads up high. I'd lose face if I suggested against Merrett, but I do legitimately think he will continue scoring well.

I think Lids is slowly being pushed out of the engine room and won't hit the heights he has in years past. Has also struggled with injury over the past few years, but feel free to disagree with me on that one.

tim

Depends on your bye structure and who you play each bye really. All 3 have a different bye round. Which round do you need the extra players

Moustachio

Merrett is best value of the 3 at the moment.

Lachy

Zorko/Deledio no doubt

Confused

How does loophole work with Bye players?

I N Pieman

They are open to being traded up until the first bounce of the ball in the last game of the round. So they are unlocked until them. Very easy for captain loophole this week

Confused

Thanks Pieman

Robbo

Matty boyd or pittard?

Patch

As much as Pittard burnt me last year, he's cheaper and I'd expect him to just about match Boyd on the run home. Won't hit as many big scores but when JJ returns in six weeks or so Boyd might slip back.

ToneStar

Dogs gave a great run home at Etihad stadium. Boyd will be my final defender.

Tofor

Is it worth chopping Zaha for Rockliff? Is Zaha cooked? Hasn't been good for a long time.. and dwindling away in value. Averaging 70s over the last 5.

I N Pieman

If your team is fully upgraded then look at that. I'd finish your team & asses your remaining trades before tossing premos

Patch

With I N here. Luxury trade that is a good move in isolation, but as long as it doesn't stuff the rest of your side up. But the Zaha is getting very, very cooked.

Tim

I made that trade last week – I reckon he's cooked too, either way Rocky was way too good value to pass up and I feel like he's more consistent and higher scoring potential.

Tofor

Thanks all.. appreciate the comments.. Im usually pretty cautious but Im going to pull the trigger on this one.. feel its last chance to slot Rocky in for last mid premo slot. This is my last roll on Rocky. Hes hurt me before.

Blues

With Brisbane where thy are on the ladder and comp picks on the horizon, I don't think I'd be picking rocky. I can see a rest ahead for certain.

A.J

Why would they rest him? He's already missed more than his fair share of his footy, and he has pretty much always played where he can, even with niggles

The Beard

Community I need some help.

Looking at trading either Stewart in or Reid or Jansen?

The other option I'm toying with is I could go early on Hipwood and move Phillips to the mid. Which would give me a defender/forward that I could switch round with ATM and Adams…

I want to lock something in here that will allow me to cover my ass with low trades now and planned in bringing in another 2 keepers next week with Deledio and Simpson.

Thoughts?

Patch

Can't see Reid playing many games – I've gone Stewart as much as I don't want to. Wouldn't go early on Hipwood.

The Beard

So Stewart or Jansen?

bUCKET__

Choice between Stewart and Jansen is killing me this week. Need one but both have risk. Might just flip a coin.

I N Pieman

If I had that decision I'd go Jansen. Simply because I think Jansen is more likely to play longer term. Stewart could be dropped next week & never spoken of again

bUCKET__

Yep, I'm a firm believer in the 'never trust a hawks rookie' rule. Problem is I'm unsure if Jansen will be in the team for long either, he was awful last week and has had inconsistent form in the seconds.

Patch

I've gone with Stewart. Jensen wasn't killing it in the NEAFL and doesn't look to rack up huge numbers. I'm going to take the punt on Stewart to make more cash, but Jensen will get more games.

Gibbs

What do I do with daulhaus and Nic Nat? Goldstein looks injured, only have 11 trades left! Other ruck is Gawn

Motsy

Gawn + Sam Mitchell vs Hanners + NicNat….GO!

Motsy

I mean….gawn + sam mitchel vs Hanners + Blitz

Patch

Gawn and Smitch – not sold on Blicavs this year.

Nervous Coach

Great work once again Patch. I currently have 16 on the field if Hewett and McDT are both named in the final teams tonight. 18 trades left. I am thinking of trading Hewett or Smith (Coll) for Trengrove but unsure whether to keep Hewett if he is named to ensure I get 18 on the field even though he will lose cash or trade him out.
I also need to trade out Nic Nat and am leading towards Gawn or Goldy (Z Smith and M Cox are my other rucks). Should I just make these two trades or is it worth trading McDT to Gibson (Haw)/Pittard (PA) or hold the extra trade and use it next week.

As always, I appreciate any thoughts from the community.

Tommo

Having 18 is key, get rid of Smith this week and Hewett next week (his bye).
I would go Gawn, he just seems injured. Its a real flip of the coin though.
Tippa is good for one more week, wont lose cash.

Nervous Coach

Thanks Tommo. Like your thinking.

Tommo

Sorry, i meant Goldy looks injured, so go Gawn 🙂

Patch

Agree with Tommo here Nerv. Would take Gawn over Goldy, too.

Nervous Coach

Thanks gentlemen. Gawn suits my bye structure as well. Appreciate your advice.

Dug

Patch!!! Running out of trades only 11 left. With Tippett going down still 3 off full premo. Should have 7 trades left after going full premo for the rest of the season. Am sitting nicely at rank 19 however. My question is do I bring in hanners or gray this week. (Both suit my bye structure). Ward, Selwood and ward don't. Want both of them but thinking to save cash for my last forward upgrade going gray this week, Montagna next week and hanners last week of byes… Thoughts?? Gray or hanners??

Patch

Nice work getting yourself to 19, Dug! I should be the one asking you to fix my side haha!

Gray in isn't a bad move – Rockliff another option if that doesn't muck your byes up but Hanners far and away the best mid pick. Not sold on Montagna and would personally take Merrett ahead of him – who is also a POD on the leaders – but that's a controversial opinion.

Dug

Last year was around top 500 at this stage. Played safe holding trades and it cost me finished around 2k. So have been more aggressive this year. Not sure I trust rocky lol burnt me last year and I started with him and gray so not sure why I'd trust gray again either but seems the less injury prone of the two. Getting hanners this week might cost me another trade to make cash. Will take on board the advice for Merritt but, have held off on him but surely has shown he reliable by now. Was as set for Dahlhaus lol thanks mate

Tim

Would appreciate thoughts on my game plan.. I've currently got 850K in the bank – I'm going to use it to get all my upgrades done and dusted.

DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Boyd, Laird, Biggs, Dempsey (Tucker, Collins)

MID: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Parker, Gray, Liberatore, Rockliff, Trengove, Hopper (R. Davis, Dunkley, K. Stewart)

RUCK: Gawn, Goldstein (Cox)

FWD: D. Martin, Z. Merrett, Wells, Hall, Kerridge, Petracca (T. Phillips, Papley)

I'm planning on upgrading Hopper to Gaz, and Davis to one of Neale and Pendles. Petracca to Zorko and Biggs or Dempsey to Simpson.

I'm still undecided with Neale vs Pendles – Neale should be sub 550k in a few weeks, but Pendles is the second highest scorer. Also tossing up whether to trade Biggs or Dempsey, and also whether to upgrade Kerridge – probably to Deledio if I do make a move.

Patch

Would send Dempsey packing first. My gut wants to go Neale but Pendles essential. Kedge won't be a keeper.

Tim

Cheers mate, perhaps I'll have to choose which of Gaz vs Neale to grab.

Shake n bake

Wow brought up this Martin issue ytday! Seems to be gathering pace. I'm doin the trade because I have 17 left and can't see it getting any worse for him from here on. Also he comes up against Gilles 1st up!

tdesmaele

Likewise. I have a similar number trades and having Martin next week helps me get to 18 (fingers crossed)

Gord29

What ever happened to the day of the split round? The players still got a rest

Dan

Phillips or Stewart as bench cover for the rest of the season?

Tim

I reckon Phillips has the better job security, as a pies fan I rate him very highly, and I have a feeling the club does too. That said though, I have both Stewart and Phillips on my benches.

Steeeve

Can't wait to get Phillips in. Even if he's dropped before bursting his bubble I'm taking him, hell play more eventually this season

Patch

Phillips

Adam

Option 1. Go early on Phillips, establish a fwd/mid swing so I can receive J Lyons score next week and have enough funds to trade Byrne-Jones, Brown and Byrne for D Martin, R Laird and T McKenzie.
Option 2. T McKenzie in this week, cull Davis or Petracca to establish a fwd/mid swing next week but have to trade Petracca and keep Brown if Davis is culled or keep Davis if Petracca is culled for Phillips.
Option 3. K Stewart in and no fwd/mid swing during byes unless premium traded out as rookies wont be ready to be culled for another 1-2 months but will allow me to bring in Martin and Laird.
Option 4. Reverse Nic Nat for Gawn trade and trade Lyons for Phillips and have around 650,000-700,000 to upgrade Byrne, Byrne-Jones and Brown to S Docherty/K Simpson, R Laird and D Martin but still no fwd/mid swing.

I am leaning towards option 1 but would like your thoughts and recommendations.

johnno2908

VC Gawn, C Shaw. Or go safe and VC danger. Gawn and Shaw could both go massive this week I expect.

Brian B

gibson/boyd/bartel or pittard?

Tommo09

Danger VC into Shaw C
Have 21 playing and projected to get 2194

johnno2908

Jesus 2194. Ive got 20 on ground and projected 1900.

Tommo09

Sorry stuffed up 1894

Moustachio

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Winters

Hi community im in urgent need of help as i have no idea what to do this week

143k in the warchest with 8 trades left

DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Enright, Suckling, Collins (Tucker, Lee)

MID: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Ablett, Ward, Priddis, Shiel, Ziebell, Lewis (Hewett, Davis, Gresham)

RUCK: Gawn, NicNat (Lorensch)

FWD: Martin, Dahlhaus, Boomer, Kerridge, Tpungwuti, Hall (Petracca, Wyatt)

thoushts would be much appreciated – p.s plese help out a fellow supercoacher in need

Blues

That team and those trades. I'd wait and not trade. Try and keep some up your sleeve.

Patch

Gresham to Trengove is all this week mate. With only 8 trades left you're in a huge pickle.

Tassie Chris

Nicnat out for big sauce jacobs – no one is talking about him and in 5% of teams. poor start to the season, going to back him in with crows draw opening up for them for the back half

Patch

Keen eye mate, I like it.

Derek

i think i'll do the same.

Derek

More people have fyfe than Jacobs 😉

Starkingdom

lol

Southern S

Fyfe still in 6.4% of teams what the…………….many must have two teams this year how sad.

wetball

over half of SC teams never get logged in up until byes then it drops off heavily. i doubt their would be 10,000 serious players. if you finish outside the top 5000 you are doing something majorly wrong

Steeeve

I looked hard at Sauce but even though he plays a lot of poor teams, most have good ruckmen. If you bring him in after the bye he's got Goldy and Gawn straight up!

Pauly Walnuts

Any love for Callum Sinclair 345K FWD/RUC, BE 36, Named in the Ruck ?, Tippet out for 8 weeks now – thoughts ?

MaccasMarvels

At that price it won't hurt to have a look at his game this week and also see how the swans use Nankervis. As someone who traded in Tippett last week as a FWD because Naitanui was bound to miss, I will be watching with interest.

Ben

Why are people wanting to bring stefan martin in this is the same guy who has been smashing out 40's for the past six weeks, just because west has been dropped i still dont believe you could bring himm in, and west is named as an emergancy so could be back next week am i missing something?

Mac

Martin's Averages this year:
Pre Concussion:104.33
Concussion and next 2 wks:71.00
Next 2 rounds:101.50
4 weeks with Trent West:53.25

Statistics credit to @princeofmugs from twitter.

With West out of the side and no Nic Nat/Lycett, people are hoping he can regain some form.

Ben

thanks but i only have 8 trades left would it be to risky to do.

I N Pieman

8 trades left. Hope your at full premo Ben or very close

Steeeve

Until West gets back in the side next game…

I N Pieman

I also believe it's very risky Ben. His last 4 scores have been dreadful. In fact since he was smashed his scores have been poor. He also has the same Bye as Goldy. Not for me

Mac

Since you have 8 trades I would say no. If you had more he could be worth the risk. Get a inform ruck like Gawn or Goldy.

Ben

Yeh i think i might go for blicavs instead of gawn.

Moustachio

What you are missing is the smell of desperation, which drives people to do crazy things. I would not touch with a 10 ft pole until form proven to turn

James

Does captaincy loophole still work in bye rounds or no? Hear dsomewhere that it doesn't

Jock

It does mate – good luck this weekend!

James

Cheers Jock

John

Nic Nat to Goldstein, Dahlhaus to Martin, Menadue to James Rose. Thoughts?

Tommo09

How many trades and rookies left on field do people have?

Lachy

2 rookies 15 trades

derek

2 rookies (plus BSmith at D6) 15 trades. doing 3 trades this week

Macdonald

Afl live says tipagwunti is an emergency!? is this correct

Lachy

No it doesn't?

Mac

No hes playing.

MaccasMarvels

He's on the extended bench. Final teams will be named at around 5.30 tonight for the Sunday games.

cashcows

Rose or go early on Phillips?
Mainly looking for a semi decent bench cover.
I'll have petracca as my floating mid/fwd dpp but another decent rookie couldn't hurt.

Jarrad

Stewart or trengrove

Saundo

Trengove better JS

Nicholas

Stewart because 50k is a lot!!!

Saundo

Should I downgrade DBJ for Austin and cash in or upgrade Sumner to Gunston?

Phil

Is it worth bringing in Zorko for Tippett this week? He fits my bye structure perfect as I have 0 FWDs from that round. Downside would be high break even and will miss a game soon (bye)
I have 18 exactly without him. Alternative would be wait a week and get Montagna, although I don't think he is top6 fwd (unlike Zrko)

Matt

Zorko has a BE of 151, maybe hold off until next week so you can save as much cash as you can – he's predicted to drop about 16k this weekend.

Poljal

Have gone
KK -> Austin
J.Smith -> Trengrove

Can also go Gresham -> Stewart that will bump up the war chest.

Will have 13 trades after the above two are complete.

Thoughts?

Andy

Gunston or Wingard for POD?

Jarrad

Missed out on wingard a few weeks ago

Hubba

Gunston.. hawks have a better run home

Paul96

Is there anything wrong with trading out the Tip for Dusty this week? It was either the Tip or Kerridge, but I think Tippa is likely to lose cash against GWS.

Was gonna wait till next week, but the decision to hold Nic Nat this week has prevented that.

Any thoughts appreciated 🙂

Southern S

Dusty not playing. Tippa BE only 69. He's scored over his BE in 8 of his 11 games.

If you're worried about losing 5-10k then you must have a lot of players on field this week.

Paul96

Yeah I have 19 playing, I know Dusty is playing this week but I plan to use my trades to get Simmo and Goldy in next week at a better price.

Paul96

Not playing*

Tommo

Bring him in next week when Dusty is playing and Tippa isn't?

Max

Who to trade? Kerridge or Keays? Thinking Kerridge as he has his bye?

Rivo

Hi Patch. Solid article again.
Menadue to Rose or Keays to Stewart?

Max

Does Stewart hold his spot when Hodge comes back? I see him or Howe getting dropped?

Nicholas

Here is my team:

Defenders- Laird, Smith, Bartel, Shaw, Rich, Tippa, Collins, Brand

Midfielders- Ablett, Danger, Parker, Selwood, Priddis, Gray, Libba, Wines, Ben Ken, Smith, MacPerson

Ruck- Gawn, Nic Nat, Cox

Forawards- Franklin, Martin, Wells, Barlow, Zorko, Kerridge, Petracca, Menadue

12 trades left and 30k in the bank.

Looking at bringing in the Doch and possibly Deledio or Montagna next week, leaving me at full premo apart from maybe Wines, Libba, Brodie Smith and Rich but they could come good. Some downgrades will need to be made to generate cash. I want to bring in Kade Stewart and someone else but not sure yet. My round 14 bye is really week with 15 players on field due to injuries and dropouts such as Nic Nat, Menadue, Brand, Macpherson however I can fix this with a bit of trades. Assuming Menadue and Brand do not get named my byes are something like 19-15-17. Looking for some help to fix my bye structure problem and any advice is greatly appreciated. Honestly not sure what to do to field 18 players each bye.

Nicholas

thinking Kerridge and Smith to Stewart and Trengrove/Jansen then next week Ben Ken, AMT and Nic Natt to Lids and Docherty and Goldy. This means I would be holding Tracca and Cox all year and would leave me with 7 trades.

Matt

Can only fit one more premo in my mid, tossing up between these two options:
1: Trade Davis -> Gaz next round,
2: Trade Davis -> Neale when he hits his lowest price in a few weeks, letting Davis continue making money in the meantime.

Cheers.

Pinidu

When do you think it's appropriate to upgrade Kerridge and Adams…if they keep scoring well (averaging over 80) then is it worth keeping them for a bit longer? It's a bit like Oxely and Saad last year.

Starkingdom

Hewett, Trengrove confirmed to play

Steeeve

Bye bye to one, welcome to the other

Sully321

goldstein vc and danger c or
Danger VC and Gawn c or
Goldstein VC Gawn c?

steve1

Hi guys,
heres my plans for the bye rounds
Option 1 *picks up paper with a weeks worth of notes and plans and trades, throws in bin, turning computer off until next week. f u byes!

Hugh G Rection

Stewart or Jenson trendsetters

CoachDamo

I'm leaning towards Jansen. Even if he gets dropped – Brisbane plays later in the Round than Hawthorn in a number of rounds (including finals). I figure he'll be a good loophole for your M9 score.

Hugh G Rection

U just confirmed my initial thoughts. Cheers

FootyFanatic

Goldy: 221 SC points (Rd16 2015):
13 kicks, 14 handballs, 8 marks, 4 tackles, 56 hit outs 1.2 goals.

Gawn: 119 SC points
14 kicks, 13 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 31 hit outs and 3.1 goals.

Yes Goldy had significantly more hitouts, but Gawn had two more goals. Surely the scoring is a bit off here???

Baggy Pants

Compare Gawns score from last week to Goldies tonight only 19 points difference.

1 kick, 7 handballs, 3 marks,4 tackles, 39 hit outs, 5 contested, 2 clearances, 1 clanger, 100 % de

Its just the way SC scoring works, the same stats on any given game depending on whether you win by 10 goals lose by 10 goals, or if its an even game, the exact same stats can vary significantly. Doesn't seem fair but thats the way it is. Its probably why Hawthorn players don't consistently score highly. They share the points around.

I have Goldy in my team and was happy to get the hundred points but it only seemed like an 80 – 85 point game to me.

A.J

Let me show you some facts that you did not include.

Goldy: 14 contested possessions, 25 effective disposals, 7 frees for, 1 free against, 8 clearances
Gawn: 6 contested possessions, 22 effective disposals, 1 free for, 1 free against, 4 clearances

This is supercoach, not AFL Fantasy. Supercoach uses more than just straight stats. They take into account what type of kicks they were, scoring chains, hitouts to advantage and much more.

Tom

Trade in martin or zorko into the forwards?

Tommo

Wait a week and get Zorko, going to drop in price.

HOLLA

Whats everyones projecyed score and warchest looking like leading into the first bye week?
699k
1911

Tommo09

$277k
1894

Tim

830k
1903

hedski

1926
$208k

Cam_H

$799K
1,929 … but Round 15 I'll only have 18 on the park despite the upcoming trading.

DannyB

Can you put the Captain on a player that has the bye for a loophole or not. Example Rockcliff VC, Ablett C who has the bye and Danger on the bench

Tommo

yes

DannyB

Great thanks Tommo

Chook

Hey all
Thoughts on Dunkley to Stewart as M10?

Hoot

use the cash I say…

Hoot

Aaron HALL…. Whats the deal with his poor performances?

I'm thisclose to trading him now for cash so I can bring in other more reliable premo's for the remainder of the year.

Thoughts?

p.s (have listening to podcast)

Thanks in advance.

tophawk

Snap out of it Gibson!!! One of the worst quarters he has played for the season.

Alex

Wells or Lids to complete my FWD line

Nicholas

Wells strapped his achllies…

Derek

wells could hardly run by full time

Moustachio

He rolled his ankle

Nicholas

I was so close to chucking the vice on wells oh well at least he is back on

Hotellier

Have been under a rock? He has been superb all year.

Steeeve

I brought Jade Stewart in hoping he'd at least play a couple more games and get me through the byes. Looking unlikely.

Nicholas

Yeh I am looking to be 2 players down for the next two byes…

Dropkickwoes

It will be the spuds last game for the year. Glad I don't have him.

Steeeve

He very luckily got a few frees for. If not for that would have been a complete disaster. He actually outscored my premo Gibson. But unlikely to hold his spot. Luckily Howe stunk also so perhaps he will go for Hodge giving Stewart one more chance.

Kev

With a lot of talk about his js in the comments all week I'm surprised you brought him in

Steeeve

All about war chest $102k downgrade sets me up for full premo. But wouldn't mind him getting another couple of games to make $100K

gator59

Anyone having trouble loading the game day page

Leeds17

123 VC score what to do with that…

jim

tough call
its close to enough to take as C . However danger, gawn, selwood, shaw could all go very large.
id probs risk it tbh

tdesmaele

Anyone know what what Goldy will drop to? Had a BE 166. Scored 100

Kev

Around 575k

Neverweaken

Traded Gibson in and out all week. Last minute tonight traded him out again for Rance for next week.19players on the field and need players for r14.
So glad I went with gut on Gibson

smart as s

wow, luckiest person in the supercoach world

james

Fairly happy with my desicion with hordan lewis bit the bullet and took the punt on him at 440k sonce he has delivered me 141 93 110 129

I N Pieman

Nice return. He does tend to throw in turds but

CoachDamo

I agree with Pieman but you can't complain so far! If he keeps that up for the next 10 weeks you'll be a very happy man!

Nigel

Anyone know who Wayno's hot tip was this week? Whoever it is avoid like the plague I say…..To be fair he does give good business advice though.

I N Pieman

Pretty sure it was Kade Stewart. Didn't set the world on fire

Steeeve

Anyone know his tog? Hardly saw the lad.

steve1

what is this 'wayno hot tip' you talk of? i have never heard of such a thing, explain yourself young man post haste.

Hazey

Regardless of the result tonight in the footy tonight or who you follow or if you reckon you hate Lindsey Thomas (annoying yeah, but why waste your energy hating anyone who is where most of us would love to be), the alleged comments made by the umpires tonight should concern every AFL supporter…

From Brad Scotts presser;

Brad: "The umpires told our boys they don't pay frees to Lindsay because he's a ducker"
Journo: "They told you that tonight"
Brad: "Yep, they told our boys out there they won't pay Lindsay a free"

Nicholas

Thoughts on Tome Phillips js. Need a forward rookie to downgrade menadue to to field 18 players every round and they need to have the bye this round

Dice

I reckon he'll play a few games. Good little player and pies need to blood him

liam

KK or Hopper out this week???

JDP

Would love your thoughts on who to pick from:
Trengove or Jansen

Cheers

Pauly Walnuts

I'm going Smith to Trengrove

Gav

Trengove. Solid job security.

Garbor

Has anybody seen ritchie

Gav

Is Delids a must have to round out the forward line this year?

Kev

Maybe not a "must have", but he's definitely a proven premium. Currently 10th best forward based on averages, so have a look at the blokes above him. Dusty and Zorko are must haves imo

A.J

Danger or Gawn Captain? Opponent has danger as his cap, and I heard that doggies won't put a tag on him

Rocksta

I

Steeeve

In fact Bevo said they will consider tagging him or Selwood, just not initially.

Rocksta

Try again.

I have the same problem…………… But I reckon cover your opponents C, unless you find yourself well behind and need to try something.

johnno2908

Is it stupid to trade Hopper at this point? Unfortunately got sucked into the hype. Or do I trade Dunkley who I have had since the start of the year? I feel like GWS have a good run coming up and Hopper could get some mid minutes.

Would be trading Hopper/Dunkley to Trengove. This allows me to go DBJ to Simpson next week. Without the trade I do not have the cash.

Kev

Hopper has the higher ceiling, so I'd trade Dunkley. That said, are they the only options you have? If this was a normal week it's too early to cull either. Dunkley may get more mid time now that Dahl is out for 3-4 (or maybe longer).

johnno2908

Team is:
DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Laird, McVeigh, Rich, DBJ (Collins, Ruggles)
MID: Danger, Pendles, Parker, Ablett, Sloane, Priddis, Libba, Rockliff (Hopper, Dunkley, Stewart)
RUCK: Gawn, NicNat (Grimley)
FWD: Martin, Zorko, Hall, Greene, Barlow, Petracca (McDT, Wyatt)

gator59

What's going on with the game day page, It won't load

Sully321

Gawn, shaw or danger as captain

Redgumwon

Out the VC on Danger and go with either Gawn or Shaw as your captain on Sunday. If Danger smashes them again go with him. You should have plenty of loopholes to make the switch if needed

Sully321

Already used VC on goldstein

Sarah

Thoughts on Tome Phillips js. Need a forward rookie to downgrade menadue to to field 18 players every round and they need to have the bye this round

I N Pieman

If he's named next week I'm bringing him in. Half of the pies best 22 are out & I don't think any will be back next week. Based on last week there are 10 others that should be dropped before him. I think he will get a run of games. He's a super athlete

Sarah

So if I bring him in will he last the byes. Because I worried if Stewart will play

Cliffy

J.Smith – Trengrove
R.Davis – Jansen

Ensures a good warchest ($400k+) for me to easily turn two highly priced rookies with their Bye next week (DBJ, Tippa, Adams, …) into 2 Rd 13 Premos.

Good or bad trades community?

Thanks

Redgumwon

Not a bad plan I guess but it depends on how many trades you have left and what your team structure is. I was thinking the same thing but now I'll only be trading Smith for Trengove. I have 16 trades left and in round 20 the finals start I think. So I would like to have at least 6 trades left for the finals. I'll be making two trades next week Nic Nat for Goldy and McGovern for Lids

BanthaFodder71

Good trades. Just know which premos you are after and make sure you have enough $ to get them.

steve1

So anyone know what goldys break even will be next week? I might wait until round 16 if its still going to be too high.

Redgumwon

next week 165 and the week after 153 it says

steve1

holy christmas hams! maybe i get sauce jacobs then, not sure i can afford to wait til it drops.

Redgumwon

If you can hold off. Goldy is in the best two rucks in the comp at this stage. I think I will need him next week but I'll be double checking. Remember in the bye rounds you only need to field 18 players. In three weeks time his BE is 117 and he is expected to be around $546,200

Redgumwon