227 Comments

Jonathan Camac · 08/06/2016 at 15:54
Joke's on you when he scores 150 this week. Bet you my bottom dollar. Although, he does love a good injury doesn't he…

Roger · 08/06/2016 at 16:06
Matt Boyd is just as injury prone and look at how many people have him or are brining him in.
SuperCoach is about taking risks, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't
Look at goldstein for example, people bought him right before the Sydney game and look what happened.

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 16:21
I think if your 14 trades or under with 3 or more upgrades to make then Rocky presents too much risk. If you in a better position than that role the dice

JamiesNinjas13 · 08/06/2016 at 16:53
Wow Pieman, you just said my exact situation. I have 14 trades left with Walla, J.Smith and Kerridge (all different positions) to upgrade. I will still role the dice on that beast, he always has a strong run in the back half of the season (justified risk). Always planned for Libba to be my M9 anyways so it's ok.

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 17:09
Your right on the knifes edge James. As long as you get to full premo with 8 trades left (one a week) you should be ok. We all know how dire it gets in the last few weeks. Even though it looks like we are fine now we wont be soon

JamiesNinjas13 · 09/06/2016 at 10:00
Yeah, I have been caught out a couple times in the past years, just need to relax on that itchy trade finger!!

Matt · 08/06/2016 at 16:25
Boyd is not injury prone, he is prone to being rested. Rocky has barely played this year and has injured himself 4 times in 2 years. Rocky is a much bigger risk than Boyd.
I don't have either for these reasons

Roger · 08/06/2016 at 16:40
He gets rested before he has niggling injuries. He played half of 2013 and 19 games in 2014.
Boyd is great value but will miss games but people still picked him.
Rockliff might get injured but if he doesn't and you have him in some for, of captiancy, you can get 300+ from his score.
Wouldn't the risk be worth it if you got over 300 from your caption when your opponents might only get 240-280?

Matt · 08/06/2016 at 16:43
haha how is matt boyd injury prone? He's just a lil old and gets rested every now and then

Roger · 08/06/2016 at 17:14
2013 and 2014 ring a bell to you? Oh you didn't do your research. Lol

Matt · 08/06/2016 at 17:25
I do my research watching him every week as a dogs supporter. 2013 and 2014 he was playing a totally different role with probably a higher risk of injury. Even so he still managed 19 games in 2014 which is a normal amount for a 31 year old.
Another thing to add is that Rocky is a lot younger. Boyd missed a few games in 2013, but he was 30 that year. Always a lot more concerning when it happens to a younger guy

Roger · 08/06/2016 at 22:12
My point is that even though he played 19 games. He didn't run out a whole season. Which means in SuperCoach you pick Boyd, you have to expect him to miss games.
Age doesn't mean much if you naturally have injuries I.e Sean rusling, Menzel. Look at boomer, he plays a shit load of games a season and his in his late 30s.
Point is you take the risk, Rockliff is of course risky but it's the old quote high risk, high reward. Just look at that bloke who got over 2600 last week having Rockliff as his captain.

NutSack · 09/06/2016 at 00:44
yeah- and look at the teams that scored 2400+ in round 1…. whats your point?

Hoot · 08/06/2016 at 19:40
Emotional influences have no place in Supercoach trade decisions.
If he goes BIG and you Don't have him… you're NO Chance to win.

BKW · 09/06/2016 at 08:28
You could say the same thing if he gets Injured early in a game and you have him… You're no chance to win.
Fair debate on this one, personally I'm not going near him – would much rather a Hanners, Pendles, Neale type to finish my midfield

NutSack · 09/06/2016 at 00:42
LOL… getting rocky IN??? thats hilarious… that chump will miss another 4 weeks…
the point of SC is to get players who will get you the most points in a year….rockys average doesnt mean anything… what has rocky contributed in the last 5 weeks??? 200 points??? LEL

The Ranger · 09/06/2016 at 10:00
But Nutsack it's not about who will get you the most points in a year now is it? It was only about that before Rd1.
From here on it's about who will get you the most points in what's left of the year.
Every one seems to be fixated on Rockys injuries but when you look back at the numbers (thanks again to Old Ocker) you find that between 2011 and 2015 he has missed only 3 games, across those 5 years, between Rds15 and 23.
That's 3 games out of a possible 45. And in those 45 games he scored above 120 on no less than 23 occasions.
Those numbers would suggest he has made a habit of coming home strongly and that's why he has to be considered..

Phil · 09/06/2016 at 10:27
Beautifully put Ranger!

The Ranger · 09/06/2016 at 12:23
Thanks Phil.

Pman35 · 09/06/2016 at 19:58
Agree 100%, he burned me twice last year and his papers were permanently stamped "never again". Yes he may smash out some big scores but he's just as likely to break down again.

CDawes · 08/06/2016 at 15:49
I did the exact same trade Rocky for J Smith as I'm short during pies bye round and he wont make much more cash anyway, Brown for collins no explanation needed

Tommo09 · 08/06/2016 at 16:32
Upgrading from
DBJ, Adams, AMT
Libba
Kerridge, Hall/Barlow

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 16:24
Upgrade him

DankMemes · 08/06/2016 at 18:48
id keep him for the bye round upgrade after round 13.

Luviboy1 · 08/06/2016 at 15:54
17 mate.

Trev · 08/06/2016 at 16:02
16

nick · 08/06/2016 at 16:14
13

Shake n bake · 08/06/2016 at 16:16
19

Northernsoul74 · 08/06/2016 at 16:33
18 after using 2 this week.

Beezneez · 08/06/2016 at 18:01
ditto

Tommo09 · 08/06/2016 at 16:33
I have 15 after this weeks trades

Steeeve · 08/06/2016 at 17:10
21 but making two this week. Will leave me three players away from full premo with plenty of premo to super premo upgrades possible.

Bomber56 · 08/06/2016 at 17:42
16 for me, thinking of getting Rocky and Collins in this week

Tommo09 · 08/06/2016 at 17:43
Same

50_Shades · 08/06/2016 at 18:40
Same.

Beezneez · 09/06/2016 at 11:37
Same

NutSack · 09/06/2016 at 00:46
you must have a pretty lax definition of premo if you reckon youve got 19 premos with 19 trades left

D-Train · 10/06/2016 at 03:11
Either that or he nailed each of his initial premium picks.

marcus · 08/06/2016 at 16:45
cant go wrong with hanners good call

Blake · 08/06/2016 at 21:02
Thanks

Beezneez · 08/06/2016 at 18:09
I'm tossing up between Rockliff and Hannebery for Hewett or J Smith for my my second trade after trading in Collins for either McGovern or AMT. I have 18 trades left so risk with Rocky not too great. Also thinking it may be better to get Hannebery in round 15 after his bye – gives me the option of trading for T Greene (bye rnd 15) and A Hall if they keep spudding it up or Kerridge. Also looking at M Boyd for the same reason (after bye round).

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:39
Don't hate it

Southern S · 08/06/2016 at 18:29
Yeah wouldn't touch Majak as soon as Goldy is 100% he's gone.

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:39
Doesn't look like he'll play does it

Cherry · 08/06/2016 at 15:51
Downgrade to who? Collins would be one but whose the other?

clubber lang · 08/06/2016 at 16:47
mathieson perhaps

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:39
Can downgrade three times next week, wouldnt bring in a premo next week

Beezneez · 09/06/2016 at 11:39
That's my plan.

Rick Grimes · 08/06/2016 at 16:29
Stef is gonna explode this week. 120+ Mark my words.

Steeeve · 08/06/2016 at 17:14
Yep him and Dawson.

Jonathan Camac · 24/06/2016 at 14:43
Rick Grimes, your words were marked. You sir, are a boss.

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:41
Price is projected to bottom out next week so there may be no harm in holding but you will be missing out on points by not having a premo ruckman

Rocksta · 08/06/2016 at 23:36
Depends whom you are trading him too.
Goldy and Nic Nat are under injury clouds, so you probably wouldn't consider them this week. If going to Gawn, then okay as he has his bye in Rd 14 and thus you'll get 2 weeks of Premo scoring in beforehand.
If going to Goldy, make the trade next week as Martin would have bottomed out and Goldy has the Rd 15 bye so 2 weeks of good scoring.

marcus · 08/06/2016 at 16:25
I changed my mind id rather take the 0 tippet has mumford gawn his bye then bulldogs

azza · 08/06/2016 at 16:34
exactly! hopefully will go back under 500k and can pick him up post byes as back up

marcus · 08/06/2016 at 16:43
should probably hold only got 13 trades

Beagz · 08/06/2016 at 16:47
After the way he performed against Goldy, I would actually back tippet to outscore Mumford and Gawn.

marcus · 08/06/2016 at 18:11
all of his 70s and 60s are against ruckman like Jacobs, goldy, nat nui and mumford

TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/06/2016 at 10:00
If u have nic Nat and gawn don't trade in Tippett as u r effectively trading in no ruck cover during the byes as the all have the Rd 14 bye.

Rooster XXX · 09/06/2016 at 10:20
Ruck cover is not relevant in the byes as it is best 18 scoring players in any position.

Kev · 08/06/2016 at 16:38
Depends if they play. Both have high breakevens and will lose cash

Steeeve · 08/06/2016 at 17:17
Hewett I'm holding but hoping he has the week off

ToneStar · 08/06/2016 at 18:36
I'm looking at bringing Tippet in as cover for ruck. He looks like a top 10 forward this year…

Tommo · 08/06/2016 at 18:42
I would be doing Tippet, handy F6 with Ruck cover capabilities.

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:44
I actually prefer Scott Lycett, has been consistent whereas Tippet has over performed against teams with poor ruck stocks

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 17:14
Nope. He will tear Rich a new one. And he won't be first or last. I can't wait to trade Daniel Shit

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 17:25
Will go to Rich just like Curnow last week. Expect a decent game from Rocky

HPPH · 08/06/2016 at 17:11
Selwood is the safer pick. If you looking for a reliable player that will score over 100 most weeks than choose Selwood but if your looking for an explosive pick player that could score 170's but be inconsistent go with Rockliff. It's whether you prepared to take the risk of injury or not.

50_Shades · 08/06/2016 at 18:36
I'll tell you Rockcliff. I've had Selwood lined up for two weeks for this round and I think I'm going rocky instead and Selwood next week.
It's a risk, but it's exciting… Tears or beers come Sunday.

50_Shades · 08/06/2016 at 18:38
And I already have Ablett… Actually if you don't have Ablett.. Nah wait on Ablett, he's got the first bye round.

@an3vilmonk3y · 08/06/2016 at 21:29
I'm doing exactly this. I've got too many out heading into 1st round bye so I'll need to trade in next week too, so I'm looking at Rocky as an investment who should pick up $100k at worst (if he hits 105 this week, then his b/e next week is a measly 5). Selwood is cheap at the moment, but should only go up by $15k ish this week. Both have rd 15 bye which I'm stacked for anyway.
Risk it for the biscuit etc…

Southern S · 08/06/2016 at 18:30
Ablett

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:45
Smashing it mate!

duffman4499 · 08/06/2016 at 17:59
Oooooh yeah

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 17:25
Wombats. I see the blues are up & about & you've come out of your hole. Like the rest of them. Agree on Majak. He's backup trade bait

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 17:26
That's why I said "if he holds his spot", agree he's a risk but for cheapish ruck/fwd cover he's an option

Rooster XXX · 09/06/2016 at 10:23
Potentially a good option to handcuff with Goldstein. If you have Goldy and he missed reasonable to expect that Majak wil play in his place and score okay. If I didn't have Goldy in my side wouldn't consider Daw a viable option.

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 17:40
Rich because I think he gets tagged to hell by Barlow this week

John · 08/06/2016 at 17:53
Fair enough to but who to get in defense? I already have Shaw, Simpson, Laird, DBJ, AMT and of course Rich.

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 17:54
Could get in Boyd?

John · 08/06/2016 at 18:06
Yeah Boyd would be pretty good cheers lekdog

John · 08/06/2016 at 18:07
I'll only have 13 trades if I do this though

50_Shades · 08/06/2016 at 18:34
13's not great but it comes down to how many position you have left to fill and really making the trades work for you from hereon. You can't afford to do as much as others through the bye rounds but maybe you don't need to… I hope.

John · 08/06/2016 at 18:44
Well this Is my team before trades
Def: Shaw, Laird, Simpson, Rich, AMT, DBJ (Brown, Ruggles)
Mid: Danger, Parker, Selwood, Libba, Neale, Sam Mitchell, Pendlebury, Ablett (Snadden,Davis, Mathiseon)
Ruck: Gawn, Naitanui (Grmiley)
Fwd: zorko, hall, wells, kerridge,wright, petracca (menadue, cox)

Leeds17 · 08/06/2016 at 17:43
How many trade left and how many up grades to go?

Joe_T · 08/06/2016 at 17:49
19 trades left before this week, about 5-6 upgrades left in total. Ellis, Libba and J Smith in the mids as upgrades.
I actually traded Blicavs into my team in Round 4/5 thinking he was a potential M8 at worst, but he's been a spud lately. And started with Ellis with the hope that he'd have the breakout season many tipped him to have, but that hasn't paid off either.

Joe_T · 08/06/2016 at 17:49
EDIT **Sorry I have 17 trades left before this week

Leeds17 · 08/06/2016 at 18:13
Tricky you'll probably need 10 trades to get to full premo which only leaves you the 5 for injuries, I don't mind the trades, with Blicavs he'll drop this week but once the 50 odd score is out of his cycle he'll even out again so I don't think he's a desperate upgrade maybe wait till after his bye, Could go Ellis to Goldy via Blicavs?

Joe_T · 08/06/2016 at 19:07
Ellis > Goldy via Blicavs doesn't sound too bad, I think it's probably better to get rid of Ellis before Blicavs considering Ellis has a Round 13 bye, whereas Blicavs is Round 15. No point keeping Ellis for this week and have him drop 30-40k.
Is Goldy a more of a must have than Danger at the moment though? Obviously if Goldy doesn't play this week that question is easier to answer.

Tommo09 · 08/06/2016 at 18:06
It suits my bye structure too

The Many Faced God · 08/06/2016 at 18:11
Why would you trade a player in who won't play, just silly. Better off getting a Collingwood mid or Sloane who have already had there bye.

50_Shades · 08/06/2016 at 18:32
Yes, it's a bad idea.

Rocksta · 08/06/2016 at 21:39
Yes…….Silly

Kev · 08/06/2016 at 18:30
Very unlikely he'd play out the season. He's priced too high to be considered a downgrade

50_Shades · 08/06/2016 at 18:32
Nope. I've got Gawn and nic nat and my cover is cox from Collingwood – not great but enough for me.

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:46
The great man Ocker brought him in last week

Rocksta · 08/06/2016 at 21:40
Wouldn't dream of it.
Absolute waste of a trade!

Danners · 08/06/2016 at 21:49
I would contemplate him if Goldstein and/or Nic Nat are out

MaccasMarvels · 08/06/2016 at 22:22
Not a chance. Nic Nat's sore achilles is making me very nervous too. I made ground on the leading pack who had Goldy due to the donut and can't see how I can afford to have a Nic Nat donut and keep that ground. Tippet as a Fwd is more and more appealing.
GAJ is also appealing, among others. The number of tackles and possessions indicates he's fit and raring. Still well under his opening value too.

Kev · 08/06/2016 at 18:32
Not worth it in the long run.

50_Shades · 08/06/2016 at 18:31
In the early days wasn't it a link that when clicked launched the image in a new window and bigger?

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:48
Hey mate, sorry about the eye that happened to me earlier in the year!
Right click on the chart and click "view image" it'll open up as a much larger image

red5jc · 09/06/2016 at 08:20
If your on the computer, hold the Ctrl button down and roll the mouse wheel towards you to make the whole screen bigger

Beezneez · 09/06/2016 at 11:33
Thanks for your help and replies – holding the Ctrl button down and rolling the mouse wheel works for me. Thanks again.

Waldo · 08/06/2016 at 18:43
Dea. Bank more cash plus on averages he won't lose as much as Brown.

Waldo · 08/06/2016 at 18:45
Scrap that. Dea loses more dosh. Keep Brown

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:50
Hold Brown

breakevens · 08/06/2016 at 21:15
Dea

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 19:16
Your order is correct

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:50
I still have De Goey too, killing me

Danners · 08/06/2016 at 21:37
Brown, De Goey, Kennedy. I hear Kennedy should be back this week

tom · 09/06/2016 at 07:26
Kennedy's high break even worries me though. They all have breakevens around the 100 mark.

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 19:17
He spent most of last season on my bench as well. But boy of boy what a finish

Beagz · 09/06/2016 at 11:03
How can you possibly be glad you kept him?
If you traded him out to a similar priced player after round 3 you would be about 500 points better off than you are now….

I N Pieman · 08/06/2016 at 19:29
Hold. OMac negative BE & so does Collins. Smith & Davis not ready to go & DMacP worth nothing. Same with Grimley. Petrecca not ready to go. Perhaps trade Spudadue to Tom Phillips if he plays if you really want to do something & generate some coin

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:53
I think you can go Menadue to Phillips even if he doesn't play. my Collingwood friends say that he's likely to get some games in the latter half of the year

thembomb · 09/06/2016 at 08:01
Thanks boys! Love your work!

Kev · 08/06/2016 at 20:31
Who's your downgrade, Rick? None of them inspire much confidence tbh.

Rick · 08/06/2016 at 20:40
Dea is, and have no swing anywhere

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:53
Lee with the Saints injuries

Rick · 08/06/2016 at 20:55
Thanks lek, hopefully he can find a bit of form too, don't like to see the injuries but boy will they help the mighty blues this week?

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 21:16
I'm worried about this weekend, I don't like going in expecting to win

COPYCAT · 08/06/2016 at 20:26
you smell farts

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:54
Can you just go McGovern to Rocky?

breakevens · 08/06/2016 at 21:14
Libba scores 120 and you want to trade him out?

LEKD0G · 08/06/2016 at 20:55
Probably until after whichever premo you decide to take has their bye round

Puopolo_Culture · 08/06/2016 at 23:49
I think I said the same thing earlier this season after he stuffed me around last year. Yet here I am again, seriously considering him. I think I may be masochistic.

Danners · 08/06/2016 at 21:46
More important to dump Stef

Dasha · 08/06/2016 at 22:08
u reckon goldy or gawn?

Danners · 08/06/2016 at 21:43
AMT, since Greene is a premo

TomasR · 08/06/2016 at 21:49
True, but i am not sure if i would like a player of that price on the pine.

marcus · 09/06/2016 at 09:38
can you loophole him with someone

@winterjames5 · 08/06/2016 at 22:32
if there is no other rookie you might have to go early on Jansen trengrove or stewart never know could pay off

Leeds17 · 09/06/2016 at 05:58
Rhys Mathieson should be back soon if its not imperative to your team that this rookie should be playing during the bye rounds.

Kev · 09/06/2016 at 08:56
Hewett may not play this week. Concussed last week

Dasha · 08/06/2016 at 22:59
im holding till JJ is back, got bigger problems at hand

Rocksta · 08/06/2016 at 23:25
I'm holding until I've reached full Premo after the byes.
Rd 16 – 17 Gonesky, unless he turns it around. Can't see it happening though. He's nowhere near it at the minute.

Mal · 09/06/2016 at 07:05
Probably not, was a late in last week. See if he's named tonight

Rocksta · 08/06/2016 at 23:19
Hanners.
Ultra consistent and 120 ave mid

Puopolo_Culture · 08/06/2016 at 23:40
Hannebery

smart as s · 09/06/2016 at 03:14
hanners, neale and jpk are must haves imo

Rooster XXX · 09/06/2016 at 10:32
No he is not. I would say from the information coming out of the club he is all but guaranteed to play. Was close last week and trained with the main group yesterday. Scott has stated knee is structurally sound and there is no risk of further damage.
Asked whether Goldstein's injury could become an on-going one if he was brought back too soon, Scott said North's medical staff were confident there was little risk of that.
"It's structurally very sound, there's absolutely no problem there," Scott said of Goldstein's knee.
"It's more just pain and function, more function than pain."
He will be playing this week.

Rocksta · 08/06/2016 at 23:49
Trade Smith to Jansen next week. Smith will make another 10-15K, has the rd 13 bye, and you get another look at Jansen before his price rise.

Puopolo_Culture · 09/06/2016 at 00:02
I should have mentioned I am looking at trading one of them out as I am toying with getting in Rocky, though keeping an eye on Jensen is a good idea. Though if I do trade in Rocky, I will then have two Brissy players in my mids.

Chandos · 09/06/2016 at 00:26
100% if he stays fit

pete · 09/06/2016 at 00:38
i think 2 chandos

Joe_T · 09/06/2016 at 00:28
If he stays on the park, yes. F5 at best but a very handy F6. If he gets injured as is expected at some point during the year, then obviously no.

pete · 09/06/2016 at 00:37
joe every player can be expected to get injured lol

Joe_T · 09/06/2016 at 10:36
Wells more so because of his history. I think most people had him as a starter with the intention of upgrading him to a "premo". He just had to make enough money before getting injured.
But he's actually scoring pretty well and hasn't suffered a major injury yet so may turn out to be a keeper.
Lids dusty zerrett zorko dahl and montagna should all finish above wells though.

marcus · 09/06/2016 at 09:39
trade brown to Collins and maybe stef martin to gawn

Kev · 09/06/2016 at 09:43
Definitely do the Collins trade. Brown has already lost 22k after peaking at 312k, he's only gonna leak more cash. With the cash made from that trade you could look at upgrading BK

davo · 09/06/2016 at 10:02
Not much point getting rid of rich because you have two other rookie upgrades in defence to do first, with only 13 trades you should just ride the rich rollercoaster this year, I am and have learnt no rich next year as a lesson.

John · 09/06/2016 at 15:34
Yeah fair enough

The Ranger · 09/06/2016 at 10:04
13 is a tad low eh John? I'd hold until after the byes if I were you.
Nice midfield by the way.

John · 09/06/2016 at 15:34
Thanks mate

Mieky · 09/06/2016 at 11:22
Take your pick

Tommo · 09/06/2016 at 10:49
Smith still has money to make. Maybe try another rookie?

Ketut · 09/06/2016 at 11:26
I see the temptation to bring in rocky because he is potentially 150k underpriced. However, Jansen/Trengrove may be 200k+ underpriced plus you'll make a little extra on Smith.

Kev · 09/06/2016 at 11:55
Has a bonkers record against the Tiges, played them 9 times for a low of 120.
Liking Goldy as vc if he gets up, averages 142 in his past 3 against the cats

I N Pieman · 09/06/2016 at 11:57
Rocky not bad in his last couple against Freo

The Ranger · 09/06/2016 at 12:22
VC on Rocky, C on Ablett, loopholing MacPherson.

Kev · 09/06/2016 at 11:46
No issues I can see. You could hold this week and look at bringing in Jansen when he's n the bubble

marcus · 09/06/2016 at 11:55
I'm holding until simpson has his bye then ill upgrade him to simpson

Tommo · 09/06/2016 at 15:54
I have the same Dilemma. I'll probably upgrade him as one of my last trades for full premo. He still goes big, but is inconsistent. Not an urgent trade.

Reece · 10/06/2016 at 09:16
Agree 100% – he is so frustrating though. Goes large one week and then gives away 8 free kicks and has 10 clangers…..or just has a quiet day. Likewise I will hold and upgrade him to ultra premium just before GWS bye.