RD11: The Heroes. The Villains. The Damned.

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Big Carl CoachKings Community

Like a jilted ex-lover, Tom Rockliff continues to seduce us as fantasy coaches.

He’s hurt us many times over the last two seasons, but we kept taking him back. Then he’d hurt us again. And again.

When it was good, boy was it good. He could produce monster ton after monster ton. It was pure bliss.

But the last time he hurt us, most of us said “never again”.

However, here he is, Community. Trying to lure us back in for another roll in the hay with a tantalising outing of 204 SC on Saturday!  Bloody 204!

You have to admire the swagger of the bloke, who predicted during the week he would go 180+ in his first game back despite not playing since Round 7.

Now, here we are, being tempted again. Here is a short list of pros and cons when considering picking up Rocky:


  • He’s bloody cheap (should be in the 500K range this week even after the double ton).
  • A proven SuperCoach gun (leading overall average in 2014 with 132 SC).
  • He has a massive ceiling (as evidence this week).
  • Loves being a one-man band and plays well in losing sides.


  • We are chasing points – he won’t crack the double ton every week.
  • Durability – the bloke is bloody injury prone.
  • Regularly misses games (has only played six matches this year, 16 in 2015 and 18 in 2014).
  • Prior history – has burnt many coaches on multiple occasions. Will he do it again? Possibly.

The revelry of CoachKings continued to produce the goods on the weekend as punters in pubs across the nation battled it out in both AFL and NRL formats. In AFL, Jakey Welsh out at the Tonsley Hotel did enough to secure the weekly prize with his score of 1091.  

The Heroes

Tom Rockliff (204 SC)

Had it a phenomenal 48 times. Nine tackles and a goal to cap it off. A goliath performance in a side that was beaten convincingly. Believe it or not, Rocky actually thrives on being the only decent mid in his side and battling against the odds. With Beams out for the rest of the season, will be an absolute steal at this price IF he can keep his body right. But, that is a big IF.

Josh Jenkins (172 SC)

There wouldn’t be many that have him. But a 170-odd is too hard to ignore. Helped by seven goals, big JJ made the most of the Crows’ dominance over an insipid Saints line up. His inconsistency and key position status mean he should almost certainly not be considered in the future in our teams, but an effort like this deserves to be recognised.

Joel Selwood (150 SC)

Produced one of the greatest last quarters in the history of SuperCoach. Selwood’s 74-point final term epic propelled him to an excellent score, as he went into beast mode for 12 touches, four tackles and a goal. Handsomely rewarded those who have stuck with him after a couple of sub-par performances.

Honourable mentions: Marcus Bontempelli (147 SC), Rory Sloane (139 SC), Daniel Wells (138 SC), Tom Mitchell (131 SC), Lachie Neale (138 SC), Zach Merrett (128 SC), Matty Boyd (128 SC), Scott Pendlebury (125 SC), Lachie Hunter (124 SC), Gary Ablett (121 SC).  

The Villains

Toby Greene (57 SC)

Many picked him thinking he would fill the void in the midfield left by Adam Treloar at the Giants. But it is now abundantly clear he will continue to play as a half forward only. Kicked three goals and was sitting on nearly 50 at quarter-time. So what the bloody hell happened the next three quarters, Toby? Is looking increasingly likely he will not be a top six forward come season’s end.

Aaron Hall (50 SC)

Hall’s case is almost as curious as Green’s. Was in absolute white-hot form at the start of the season. But coinciding with his team’s decline since then, he has dropped off significantly. Now it doesn’t even look like Rocket wants to play him in the bloody midfield anymore. Didn’t start in a centre bounce for the whole match. A significant concern.

Leigh Montagna (43 SC)

Like many of his team-mates, Lethal Leigh was not so lethal on Sunday as his side got absolutely bulldozered by the Crows. Age counts against him when considering as to whether he is a top six forward or not and scores like this are deeply concerning. Has a big ceiling and can big on his day, but needs to gain consistency if he is to prove a worthwhile selection in our forward lines.

Honourable mentions: Nic Naitanui (71 SC), Luke Dahlhaus (69 SC), Elliott Yeo (56 SC), Josh J Kennedy (49 SC), Nick Riewoldt (45 SC).  

The Redeemers

Sam Jacobs (150 SC)

The likable big man was once the best ruckman in the game a couple of years ago and he wound back the clock with a vintage performance on Sunday. Gave the Crows midfielders first use of the ball allowing them to rack up some big numbers and pump the ball up forward, where Josh Jenkins benefited.

Heath Shaw (124 SC)

Stung a few who put the C on him last week in an attempt to chase points, but rebounded nicely with a solid outing. Excellent use of the ball again by foot. We must accept the fact that throughout his career, Heater has been prone to the odd stinker. But once you get past this fact, he still remains one of the most valuable defenders in SuperCoach.

Sam Kerridge (126 SC)

It was looking like Sam had nearly reached his expiry date and many traded him out this week. But for those who kept him, hasn’t he responded magnificently? Was prolific for Carlton and pumped out his fourth ton and highest score for the year.

Honourable mentions: Matt Crouch (132 SC), Matthew Leuenberger (105 SC).

The Prodigies

Sam Collins (100 SC)

Should be your number one rookie downgrade option for this week. Although it was only against Essendon, he looked bloody good. A mature-aged draft pick that has dominated the WAFL in the past couple of years, he looks set for an extended stint in the side. A key position defender, reminded me a bit of Marcus Adams the way he was able to take strong intercept pack marks and finish off with quality skills.

Ryan Davis (84 SC)

The laughing stock of the SuperCoach world in the early stages of the season, this bloke looked like an absolute spud. But hasn’t he turned things around in the past couple of weeks. Scored 90 and 84 in his last two matches and is benefiting from extended opportunities in a depleted Gold Coast side.

Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (80 SC)

The solid little nugget has been bloody serviceable to his owners in defence. Doesn’t mind throwing his frame around and cleaning up blokes and might be looking at a week for smashing into Chris Mayne’s jaw. Woosha talked about resting him in the coming weeks anyway, so he probably looks set to miss a game either way. Consider holding even if he misses, as he might be a bloke worth keeping as defence bench cover.

Honourable mentions: Christian Petracca (89 SC), Darcy Byrne-Jones (73 SC), Mason Cox (64 SC).      

The Damned

George Hewett (10 SC)

Copped a knock to the head, so you can’t really hold it against the kid. Had been good in the past month up until now. But with that 10 in his system, his break even will sky rocket. Time to go, George.

David Zaharakis (21 SC)

Went head to head with Barlow and got absolutely slaughtered. Those of you that still have this man need to look at upgrading him ASAP. You can’t put up with a mid that is produces this sort of filth. Not the first time this season, either. Will leak some serious cash as well.

Stef Martin (69 SC)

Just hasn’t been the same since being cleaned up by that massive hit from Steve May a month ago. A miracle he came back so quickly, but has looked a different player since. Was the second best ruckman in the comp last season but now looks a shadow of his former self. Almost all his owners are jumping off.

Honourable mentions: Jarrad Waite (74 SC), Matt Dea (42 SC), Tom Ruggles (24 SC), Mitch Brown (28 SC).


Over to you Community, who were your Heroes and Villains from this round?

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The Beard · 06/06/2016 at 10:03

Rocky or Swannys Mitchell for last midfield spot?

    Jangles · 06/06/2016 at 10:27

    Mitchell…don't get burnt!

      The Beard · 06/06/2016 at 10:40

      I'm unsure. Rocky if healthy will rip it up. Yeh he might miss the odd week though I have Davis & Smith as cover for the odd week or two.

        @an3vilmonk3y · 06/06/2016 at 14:21

        You just answered yourself. If healthy. Does history show he'll stay healthy?

          JamiesNinjas13 · 06/06/2016 at 15:38

          History shows from the past few years that he plays almost every game after the bye rounds and avgs 130s while he's at it. Let that sink in.

      Rowan · 06/06/2016 at 11:05

      dont chase points with mitchell. Before 2 weeks ago he was terrible and i nearly traded him.

        The Beard · 06/06/2016 at 11:15

        Who would you think for last midfield then?

        It's Mitchell, Rockliff, Priddis maybe?

        Leaning towards Rocky.

          azza · 06/06/2016 at 12:42

          priddis easy

            The Beard · 06/06/2016 at 12:44

            Thinking Rocky. Just got a gut feeling.

              Rick · 06/06/2016 at 15:08

              A Gut feeling of 200 last week

          Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:15

          Priddis by a mile

            The Beard · 07/06/2016 at 10:02

            Really? You are usually pretty on the money mate.

            What makes you so sure? So far I've seen Priddis struggle (looked with injury) seems to have come through it.

            Mitchell I'm wary of though some of his scores are proving hard to overlook.

            Rocky is a proven gun when healthy. Granted it's been a long time since he was healthy though he's surely due some luck with injury soon!?

              Southern S · 07/06/2016 at 11:53

              Last 4 scores 100-123 so his consistency is back.

              He's a lot cheaper than he started (85k cheaper)

              He's barely missed any games since 2011.

              The other two have way more risk involved for various reasons.

                The Beard · 07/06/2016 at 13:08

                So you too are on the Priddis wagon?

Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 10:08

The big question: Are there any rookie forwards on the horizon?!?

    Wattsieesq · 06/06/2016 at 10:24

    Doesn't look like much. Mackenzie Willis is still cheap and James Rose is coming through at the Swans. Both have extremely suspect JS.

    Rooster XXX · 06/06/2016 at 15:39

    Hams from Essendon will play most of the games on the run home. Won't be a huge scorer and comes at a slightly inflated starting price – but likely to have pretty good JS given the Essendon situation.

      JamiesNinjas13 · 07/06/2016 at 09:52

      How do you know his JS is pretty good, he's only managed to crack into the team now, with many other young players rested and injured. Could be dropped at any time I rekn.

        Rooster XXX · 07/06/2016 at 10:55

        Logic would say the Essendon Football Club are using this year to get a good look at the entire list so they can make an assessment on their players moving forward so when all the sanctioned players return they are well positioned to make calls on players such as Hams. That being the case I would think it is reasonable to presume that Hams will be play a decent a amount of footy on the run home. He was pretty solid on Saturday night despite Essendon getting smacked.
        Given the lack of options I think he is a very worthy of consideration and will potentially provide a heartbeat on benches for the run home. At that this stage of the season shouldn't be needing to play him on field.

    Leeds17 · 07/06/2016 at 06:04

    Silvagni maybe

Cameron · 06/06/2016 at 10:09

Worth going Brand to Collins if brand isn't named? Only way to get Collins in as my other bench player is Tucker and need all my players playing for the byes

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 10:27

    I think if Brand doesn't get a game against the Bombers I'd say he's stuffed. Personally I'm going to deal with him later. I really hope he does get a game this week to provide me with some level of interest. What a crap Friday night fixture

Decas · 06/06/2016 at 10:25

Already got tucker but need a defensive downgrade for brown? Is Tom Lee a chance to return with ST Kilda's shocking performance?

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:03

    Sam Collins has to be a priority this week if you don't have him

    Seb · 07/06/2016 at 15:32

    Sam Collins all the way, breakeven of -88 don't look any further

Jangles · 06/06/2016 at 10:26

Nice work Carl!
Should I be looking brining in Ablett at his low price? Will he dominate like the old GAJ now?
I'm rank 2200 and want to keep climbing..and I'm
Thinking the bye round is the time to strike. I'm only 3 players away from having full premo solid side

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:06

    This is probably the last chance to get him if you haven't already, Jangles. BE of 70 this week with two big hundreds in his price cycle means he probably won't be this cheap again unless he gets injured.

James · 06/06/2016 at 10:28

paint the fence with Hartley and Kennedy to Collins and Zorko? Leaving me with 19 trades.

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 10:53

    Lock that in. Very nice

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 11:38

    There are better value options than Zorko, so it all depends how many other upgrades you still have to make. I'm guessing quite a few since you have so many trades.

    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 12:38

    Zorko just refuses to get much cheaper. Lock him in.

    I'm considering Kennedy to him as well.

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:08

    Very good trades.

bUCKET__ · 06/06/2016 at 10:29

I'm bringing in either Hannebery or Parker, either this round or next.

Who'd you pick, superpremo or value? And think it'd be worth losing the points to pick up one of them up for ~10k less by waiting a week?

    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 10:36

    I have neither. I want Hanners by the end of the year. Not sure I want Parker.

      I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 10:52

      Agree with Steeeve

    BKW · 06/06/2016 at 11:56

    Go Hanners, has scored over 100 in every game – only player in the league to do so this season I believe!

    I've got Parker, and while I like him there is snog gap between his up and down games – Hanners more consistent.

      Beezneez · 06/06/2016 at 17:07

      Neale has scored over he ton in all but one early game when he scored 92. He is dearer than Hanners though. I have had Parker since round 1 and am leaning towards Neale for that reason and the upcoming byes.

    Tommo · 06/06/2016 at 16:10

    Parker is just too up and down for me, go Hanners

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 17:21

    Care of Parker, he and JPK compete for points

Jangles · 06/06/2016 at 10:36

Here's my team Carl and community..Not sure what to do coming into bye rounds!!?? Thinking of Ablett or downgrading hall this week…thoughts???

Shaw, docherty, DJB, Bartell, tippa, pittard.
(Collins, Ruggles)
Pendles, danger, wines, Libba, Parker
Sloane, S. Mitchell. (Smith, keays)
Gawn, Nic Nat. (Grimes)
Buddy, Martin, Zorko, Wells, Hall, Petracca.
(Brown, Menadue)

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:12

    What's your bye structure looking like with your team as it is? Given that you have Collins and 8 solid mids, I would advocate holding your trades this week in preparation for the byes. Hall is causing me headaches as well, but there are lots of people in the same boat – gotta hold him I reckon. For now anyway

bUCKET__ · 06/06/2016 at 10:40

Hewett will be rested mate, he's a young bloke who's had a big year and was just concussed. Bet the house on it!

    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 12:34

    Hmm what about Ben Ken? Did he play in the VFL?

I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 10:51

Love BVC's meme on Daniel "shit" Rich. God I know how that feels. He's useless. Can wait to get rid of him or shift him to the pine

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:14

    i saw he was getting tagged on the weekend, why do coaches do that to that poor fella. he has very short arms and can't push them away.

    i got Rich at D5 and Brodie at D6, was going to bring in Rance at D7 after his bye, with a non-playing rookie at D8 and try my best to loophole them for the rest of the year. hopefully 2 out of 3 will play ok.

      I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 19:22

      Don't mind that tactic at all Derek. I'm working towards a rich loop desperately. And another for Hall. Another useless prick

        Youngster · 06/06/2016 at 20:40

        Talking useless pricks, KK takes the cake. This bloke is being outscored by every defensive rookie out there and I just can't see him turning it around. So I have KK and Hall who can't beat my benched players. I reckon both of them are up for the chop before the rookies…

I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 10:56

Sam Collins is your man. Toned up last week & is on the bubble. If you've got him then Port has some bloke Logan Austin or Austin Logan. Not sure which one. He scored about 65. Only one game but.

deccas · 06/06/2016 at 11:03

Thanks I N Pieman i meant Collins.

Luke · 06/06/2016 at 11:24

Thoughts on kade stewart? 102k priced rookie, scored 90
How is his js?

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 11:33

    Wait till he's on the bubble. I thought Brand had some JS. He didn't

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 11:43

    Would not rate JS high at Hawks.

    Jansen from Lions got 98 on debut, may keep his spot (assume he took it from Mathiespud) if he can back it up next week.

    @an3vilmonk3y · 06/06/2016 at 14:26

    JS at Hawks is good 3 games. Once you play your 3rd you're cut.

    Tofor · 07/06/2016 at 13:52

    Hawks fan here would expect JS to be pretty low..
    Wouldn't surprise me to see him drop out for Langford this week.

ting tong falang · 06/06/2016 at 11:24

my sneaky thai slipper caught me doing the doggy the other night with the missus, after one too many beverages (lukes). What i thought to be a stamina performance turned out to be unfulfilling for the little lady, and she left promptly in the morning. oh well, i log on to the supercoach for a review of the weekend, only to find i'd dropped ranking. My sneaky thai slipper hopped on the bed with a grin..and he say me.. "khun tin tong…winning 50 grand like winning lady heart….you want come from behind win..you need more libido, more libido!". now u see community, my thai snlipper hab velly hard accent to understand. all day i wondered what he meant by "more libido"..it finally dawned on me the next night..more libido..more libido? he wasn't saying More Libido..he was trying to say Morabito! Morabito! Welcome…

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 11:33

    If you could find him a pair of slippers & get him on the park I'd love to consider him. Don't think he's even playing in the WAFL. He's unlikely to bag you the 50K. Nail some Tinder chicks instead. Works for me

    Matt · 06/06/2016 at 15:06


    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 15:14

    Morabito probably the only bloke who could have a season ending injury putting on a pair of slippers.

    He's more disappointing than you seem to be in the sack and, like your missus, rooted.

The Mountain · 06/06/2016 at 11:26

Tommy lee could be a chance with Goddard going down and he looks like he could be out for a while

winters · 06/06/2016 at 11:27

thinking of getting rid of Byrne from Carlton to upgrade a defender but my problem is i only have 417k for a backmen

who is my best bet community T.Mcdonald or M.Suckling

and should i keep or trade hall

    tim · 06/06/2016 at 11:34

    suckling looks the goods, average severely affected by that injury score

    Phil · 06/06/2016 at 15:51

    Suckling averaging 94 if u take his injured score out. Extra benefit too if you've still got a F/B rookie

    Neverweaken · 06/06/2016 at 16:27

    Suckling. Had him since the start. Def/fwd was about to trade when murph went down. He has stepped up since then apart from injury.

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 18:55

    Byrne is only a BE of 29

Boltons blues · 06/06/2016 at 11:34

I'm ranked in the 4000 area and I'm worried about my cash generation on the bench, need some help, I just scored 2318 and beat the guy in my league whom was undefeated and ranked 25 in the Comp.

Shaw, laird, rance, docherty, Simpson, Byrne (Ruggles, Collins)

Danger, Ablett, Parker, Cripps, Sloane, Shiel, libba, Priddas (Dunkley, Davis, McPherson)

Gawn, goldy (cox)

Martin, wells, hall, Dahl, Kerridge AMT (petracca, grimley)

I have 14k and 14 trades left.
I'm thinking no trades this week, but this the lack of coin sitting on the bench there isn't much point trading them cause they still have more to make, the only one I can possibly see this week is Ruggles down to Lee if he gets a game

Need some help, thanks

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 12:22

    this year cash is hard to generate, but we still need it to get to full premium. Squeeze every last cent out of the rookies that you can. you have mcpherson sitting there not making any cash for you, but only 14 trades left, probably can't trade him out at this stage.

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 12:53

    Very distinct Blues flavour to your line up Brendon. And a lack of love for Pies players. Most of your defence will have their feet up next week. Depending on if your league or rank player would depend on your trades. I wouldn't bring Bruce Lee in. Richo doesn't seem to like him. Even if he does play this week, he wouldn't be playing next week

      Bolton's Blues · 06/06/2016 at 14:24

      Yes indeed i have 15 players in round 13 (thats of course if they all hold their spots, will be 16 if Grimley can get a game) im thinking its to late and i dont have enough trades to worry about fixing that, so will just take the 3 donuts.

      Well INP, this is the first year since ive started SC, ive done so without Pendles, with injuries and the new mids coming into the team, i said nope, i want Danger, so it was done, well round 1 didnt i look like a genius, after the first 5 or so rounds i was happy with my choice, round 8 it was either Priddas (500k) or Pendles (620k) i saved myself the 120k and went Priddas to complete my mids, so far, so good.

      I might just sit on this team and see what happens.

        I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 14:45

        I picked up Prid 4 weeks ago before the Saints game when he still had a high BE. 4 tonnes since then. Very serviceable. But Pendles is a gun & it's painful not having him

James · 06/06/2016 at 11:50

Gday lads, would love a bit of feedback on my team.
Shaw, tippa, laird, dea, KK, Adams (Hartley, Collins)
Hanners, Parker, Ablett, Libba, Priddis, Danger, Wines, Kerridge (Smith, Keays, MacPherson)
Gawn, Nic Nat (Grimley)
Dahl, Zorko, Martin, Hall, Wells, Barlow (Petracca, menadue)

17 Trades and $135k in the bank.
Obviously backline is lacking and Dea hs to go this week. Will most likely go to Simpson but need to downgrade someone (Hartley or menadue) for this to be possible. Rockliff is also very tempting with wines not looking even slightly likely to crack a ton but don't want to get sucked in. Any thoughts appreciated

Millicent · 06/06/2016 at 12:08

My situation is very similar to yours James. Wines is a good AFL footballer but not as good re SC, so I am trading Brown for Collins and by trading Ollie I have $650K. Seriously considering Rocky leaving me with $150K reserve or Neale or Selwood completing my midfield. I have solid mid reserves.
I have to week to muse over this although Sarah, whose SC comments I respect, is also getting Collins and Rocky, so I may do likewise.
Community, what do you think?

    James · 06/06/2016 at 12:22

    exactly right Millicent, would love to have him running around in the guts for the saints (yes i am unfortunate enough to support st kilda) but just cant translate it to SC. Might trade Dea to Simpson this week and if rocky tears it up again on the weekend i think ill no other option but to bring him in.

breakevens · 06/06/2016 at 12:11

Thoughts community
DEF: Shaw, Simpson, Bartel, Adams, Laird, Suckling (Tucker, Collins)
MID: Danger, Parker, Ward, Selwood, Ablett, Libba, Priddis, Gray (Davis, Keays, Gore)
RUCK: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cox)
Forward: Dalhaus, Merrett, Dustin, Hall, Wells, Wingard (Petracca, Grimley)
Trades this week
Smith out for Selwood
AMT out for Suckling
I've decided to pull the trigger on both Smith and AMT as I am competing to get my team to full premo as quickly as possible
Both underpriced
13 trades left

    cashcows · 06/06/2016 at 12:32

    What output are you expecting from suckling for the rest of the year?

    Like the move to go a little early on Smith to go full premo. Only reservation with Selwood is his performance does deviate a little more with danger in the team, but he's definitely underpriced and a premo, shame he could score 70/80s instead of solid 90+s from years past.
    Will you be getting pendles anytime during the season? Libba -> pendles near the end of the season?

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 12:40

    Probably a good week to move AMT on. If he doesn't get rubbed out he's likely to be rested. Nothing to be gained by playing the Hawks. As a Selwood owner all season its been a bumpy ride to say the least. Teams have given up on trying to tag Danger & are tagging Selwood instead. I wouldn't recommend him but its your call. The man can go very large. Nice job getting so many premos with 13 trades left. Not having Goldy Pendles & Zorko is interesting

winters · 06/06/2016 at 12:44

Im ranked about 5k and have 100k in the bank my main concern is that i have 10 trades left is it worth me going early on Jansen/trengrove/stewart so that i can generate a lot of cash for post bye upgrades scored 2269 last week team is

DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Enright, Byrne, S.Collins (Ruggles, Tucker)

MID: Dangerfield, Hannerbery, Ablett, Ward, Shiel, Priddis, Zieball, Lewis (Hewett, Davis, Gresham)

RCK: Gawn, NicNat (Lorensch)

FWD: Dahlhaus, Martin, Hall, Boomer, Kerridge, Tipungwuti (Petracca, Wyatt)

was thinking of just using 1 trade this week to go Byrne—-> Suckling but as i said above is it worth going early on a couple rookies

would really love peoples thoughts

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 13:07

    10 trades & still 4 rookies onfield. Well my friend you need to keep Kerridge minimum. I'd look closely at Hewett to Jansen next week assuming Hewett misses this week. If Wingard is still cheap have a look at him. With your low trades you really need value & make the trades you have left count. I suggest you keep a close eye on Trent McKenzie. Super cheap & about to come back. Could be your saviour

    matt · 06/06/2016 at 17:35

    mate your team is shit house

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:24

    You need to hold trades! At risk of not getting to full premium if you go early on guys who aren't on the bubble yet.

The Beard · 06/06/2016 at 12:45

Could someone please fill me in on Hall & Dalhaus break evens?

Also Zaharakas?

Thanks guys.

azza · 06/06/2016 at 12:58

do people think nicnat will miss next week due to a broken nose? 🙁

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 13:41

    Nope. Well he'd better not

      Nick · 06/06/2016 at 17:07

      Apparently on crutches….

        azza · 06/06/2016 at 18:16

        heard it might be precautionary (fingers crossed)

        johno · 07/06/2016 at 12:55

        For a broken nose?

Stevo · 06/06/2016 at 13:07

Time to trade out KK or hold? 16 trades left and defence is still average….

Shaw, Rance, Rich, AMT, KK, S.Collins (Ruggles, Williams).

    Wayno76 · 06/06/2016 at 13:23

    I'm trading him this week cut my losses and downgrade to Colin's I'm sick of playing him and my reserves score better

    I N Pieman · 06/06/2016 at 13:40

    Definitely hold him. Upgrade Tipa first & pray he comes good. Finished last season very well

      Stevo · 06/06/2016 at 18:39

      Thanks I N Pieman. Not sure about trading AMT though. Seems a solid for another couple of weeks. Might hang on another week or 2.

    Danners · 06/06/2016 at 14:02

    HOLD, wait till you have a premo team first

    Dasha · 06/06/2016 at 14:09

    im holding til JJ comes back

    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 20:30

    I'm holding, but not happy at all. Wonder if this stomach problem he's got has caused his poor performance? Definitely seems underdone.

    Youngster · 06/06/2016 at 21:19

    Yep, so two of his best scores have been when he was a late out and I got the emergency's score instead. Absolutely the worst so called premo I've ever started with and reminds me of it every week.

    I'm just not sure what do with this bloke as I'm playing AMT and Adams also.

The Beard · 06/06/2016 at 13:18

Thanks mate.

So next question if Hall gets 50-60 again what's he drop?

The Beard · 06/06/2016 at 13:20

Also bloody shocked at Zaha's low B/E. Especially seeing he only dropped 22k with the crap he produced.

I was looking at getting him out now and planning Hall having a week to earn his stay or cut him out for Dahl.

Though I got 65k in the bank and was going to use 50k from McPherson to get the balance for Dalhaus. Though if he gets his breakeven which is a chance he's around 510-520k meaning I'd at max need Hall to drop no more then 20k to be safe. Looks so tight.

Chill · 06/06/2016 at 13:35

Selwood, Parker OR Gray to come in this week.. Who are we feeling community?

    Danners · 06/06/2016 at 13:38

    Parker could wait another week, but if you need one of them now, Selwood

      Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 15:17

      You'd take Parker over Gray?

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:25

    Selwood is the man to get in this week if you really need someone

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 20:01

    I like Gray.

Wayno76 · 06/06/2016 at 13:38

I thought stefan Martin had a not bad game for a ruckman with 1 goal 6 kicks 7 handballs and 8 marks l didn't see the game but he must have been bad in the ruck contest. I'm still holding him as he's dropped to much cash for me to get anyone good . Hope his scores lift.

    Mac · 06/06/2016 at 16:30

    Agree, can't do much with him. Hopefully against Apeness he can score well this week.

    bUCKET__ · 06/06/2016 at 16:36

    Lower TOG than he had pre-concussion, and much more time spend resting forward to go with it. Looks increasingly like fitness is contributing as much as role change, with West in while he gets up and going again. Damn you Steve May!!

    I'm backing him in to return to form post-bye too, but have a lot of doubts :/

Chill · 06/06/2016 at 13:40

I already have collins. Who else could I look at bringing in?

    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 15:17

    Could go early on Trengove I guess.

      Mac · 06/06/2016 at 16:29

      Jansen looks good if you are desperate. Otherwise wait until they are on the bubble.

        Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:08

        wair for thursday, i think maitherson will get a game, did well in the seconds.

          BKW · 06/06/2016 at 18:07

          Agree with all of the above suggestions – Menegola had a good game in the seconds as well, might get a game around the cats bye

        Steeeve · 07/06/2016 at 09:44

        He's mid only yeah?
        Thinking a week ahead. I have Hewett so could go him to Jansen. Then to bring in Jack Trengove I could pull the trigger early on Josh Smith (already made heaps), Ryan Davis (finally making money) or Darcy MacPherson (my loophole, but not breathing on the bench). WIll wait and see how Davis and Smith go this week. Thinking Hewett will be out after his head knock.

mika · 06/06/2016 at 13:43

hey all,
im sitting around the 18k mark. i scored 2320on the weekend with a big donut from goldy. I just wanted to know what you think and if there is anything that stands out as a warning sign or need to upgrade anyone. i have 11 trades and 174k in the bank, my team is:

shaw, boyd, gibson, bartel, DBJ, B smith, (brand, tucker )
danger, ablett, shiel, Mitchell, crips, libba,parker, priddis, (hopper, mathieson,davis)
goldy, gawn (gorringe)
buddy,waite, wells, martin, kerrige, petracca, (cox, redman)
any help would be great.

Danners · 06/06/2016 at 14:02

Great work Big Carl! So many good cheap premo midfield options this week like Rockliff not sure who to get in. At the moment my midfield is:
Dangerfield, Hannebery, Pendlebury, Shiel, Ablett, Libba, Smith, Petracca (Hewett, Keays, Dunkley)
Planning to get rid of Smith and Hewett for Joyce (for loophole and swing) and a premo mid ($580,000 to spend)
Thoughts on who to get?

    marcus · 06/06/2016 at 15:12

    roary Sloane looks good but his bye is next week I'm bringing him in after most likely

    Mac · 06/06/2016 at 16:29

    Selwood, Gray, Ward are all good options. POD in Cotchin, scoring well this season.

    Stevo · 06/06/2016 at 20:43

    Plenty of options. Consider Selwood, Gray, Parker, Priddis.Then Rocky is you're feeling like taking more risk.

Gherkin · 06/06/2016 at 14:02

I've cracked it community. Rage traded Zaka to Rocky and Hall to Wingard as soon as trades were possible last night. Holding up a mirror, 2 side trades in one week is plain bonkers. Will probably calm down, reassess, and make a wiser decision later in the week but these 2 were so, so bad.

I think the Zaka trade is a good one, can't have a premo be tagged out of the game and produce that rubbish. Not sure on the Hall trade though, don't really want to keep Hall and Green in the same forward line in the form they are in Seems risky.

Def line is good with Adams at D6, Mids are ok for now with Parish at M8 and Fwd line should be good with Green at F6 but is too inconsistent.


    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 17:42

    Sideways is okay if you are sure it is generating value for team (eg if youre sure zaka will continue recent form, and rockie is back to bear godhood, then lock it in)

    Youngster · 06/06/2016 at 21:25

    It depends on your definition of a side-ways trade, as far as I'm concerned, Zaha to Rocky is an upgrade! Wingard is a risk as his early season form demonstrated. Sure, he might be value for money but could you do better? A lot of us have Hall, so at some point we all need to work something out.

    Rocksta · 06/06/2016 at 21:47

    It's almost got to the point where you've got to seriously consider Adams as a kerper at D6.
    Don't reckon you'll get much better than a mid to high 80 average at D6 regardless.

      Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 22:06

      Agreed, especially for people that don't have a large team value, which seems to be a lot this year, good rookie prospects seem to be diminishing.

Casper. · 06/06/2016 at 14:08

Tom Rockliff is like that best mate who your parents always warned you off as a bad influence! He is an awesome bloke, you have some great times but damn do you continually end up in the [email protected] !!!!

    Bif G · 06/06/2016 at 15:03

    That was deep

TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/06/2016 at 14:09

Rocky rocky why do u do this to me/us?
110-120 I could have dealt with and said yup good game but pass.
Now u pump out a 200 which should mean u r over your injuries but not only that but call it early!
That performance has at least gotta give the old Grey matter a bit of a work out.
Do I? Don't I? Pros and cons above by big Carl. Nice work.
Pieman I am tempted damn it!
Could go hall – rocky.

One other thing. How is the correlation between hall and Davis? Davis more mid time scores go up recently, hall less scores go down.

Don't Blush Baby' · 06/06/2016 at 14:25

Did anyone see AMT's hit on Mayne ? maybe looking at 3 down to 2 weeks suspension , that will take him up to his bye ,if so another decision to contemplate

    Gherkin · 06/06/2016 at 14:49

    Saw the hit DBB. Think you're right in saying 3 down to 2. Might get lucky and get 2 down to 1 but definitely a week for that. Woosha suggested that he'd be rested soon anyways (not sure why he'd wanna rest him so close to the bye but whatevs), so either way it looks like he'll miss at least one. I'm thinking of holding him unless a fwd rookie comes along that is too good to ignore. I like his consistent 70-80 on the bench as cover. Pretty good for a 102k investment IMO.

      Andy · 06/06/2016 at 17:53

      just a fine guys

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:29

    Just a fine, will play this week

      Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 20:32

      People should know to never guess what the MRP will do!

Paul96 · 06/06/2016 at 14:27

Hey community, have a bit of a conundrum.

I have a full premo midfield with; Danger, Pendles, Hanners, GAZ, Parker, Shiel, Libba, GAFF.

I have been trying ever so hard not to pull the pin on gaff, but scores of 64, 43, 79, 90 ,60 in his last 5 have made owning him extremely frustrating.

I have $330k in the kitty and 2 rookies to upgrade in defence and 1 to upgrade in forward. 17 trades left

Is it dumb to sideways to a Rockliff? Or should I just ride it out for longer in hope that he gets better.

As always love to hear the community's thoughts! 🙂

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 17:46

    Got to explain the scores. Injured or role change or loss of synergistic players? If not he should come good. Having said that rockie ceiling is immense (but so is floor… zero)

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:31

    Why not look at someone like Selwood as well? A little bit more cash, and probably less risk involved

    Beagz · 07/06/2016 at 11:00

    Would be going straight to Lachie Neale if i were you

Billioux · 06/06/2016 at 14:42

Hi Guys. As we know full premo asap is one of the first goals.I am hearing a lot of ;need 3 for Fpremo,2 for Fpremo etc. Can we consider the likes of Libba M8,Wells F6, DBJ D6, Chad and/or Hall F6 as full premo. Interested in your thoughts.

    Rick Grimes · 06/06/2016 at 14:57

    Wells is premo. Hall is F7. The Chad I'd rate as F6 on current output. Port are up and about now.

    Gherkin · 06/06/2016 at 15:01

    Hi Billioux.

    My opinion of a premo is a reliable average of at least 100. I have Libba and he's not quite in my premo list but another week like last week would almost get him there, too many 80's in his scoring to have me fully convinced. DBJ is not a premo, he's a rookie that has been inconsistent but has been good enough to punch out 100's from time to time. Not someone i'd want to rely on in finals. Players like Wingard, Hall, Greene are all in the same boat IMO. Too inconsistent to be classed as a premo in my team but may come good before finals.


      Billioux · 06/06/2016 at 15:26

      Thanks guys, I agree mostly Gherkin 100 is the number for F perhaps 110 for Mids. Not many Def will avg 100 so i was just pondering if a DBJ, Adams type can avg 80 is that good enough for D6?. Anyway that what makes the game great. Cheers.

        Gherkin · 06/06/2016 at 15:48

        Probably right Billioux. 100 average for a defender is almost ultra premo for the position. I've got Shaw (117 ave), Doc (107), Simpson (104), Bartel (96), Laird (93) and Adams (86). I don't consider Adams a promo but won't look to upgrade him until late in the season, and only them if I have trades to burn.

        Happy to leave an Adams type at D6 if he can keep punching out 80s.

        I rage traded Hall to Wingard on Sunday night. Not sure if i'll get more consistency with Wingard but i'm sick of Hall's poor scores.

          Billioux · 06/06/2016 at 15:56

          Very good D line. That where i most weak Shaw,Gibbo,Rance,Mski (dont ask me y!) He goes to Collins this week,DBJ and the usual Ess suspects. Went De Goey to Chad last rd. Happy with my other other lines. Good luck 4 the rest of the season Gherkin.

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 17:49

    Def = 95+, Fwd = 100+, Mid = 110+ average.

    Libba can be, Halls is too injured, Wingard probably now he is warmed up. Wells certainly, unless injured ofc.

    Brent · 06/06/2016 at 22:03

    Definitely keep them all as f6…then wait for finals if have trades can trade them out

Box · 06/06/2016 at 14:45

Can someone tell me what has happened to the Supercoach LiveHQ web sight?

    Beady Eye · 06/06/2016 at 16:01

    Shat the bed like most Herald Sun things do.

    Kev · 06/06/2016 at 17:10

    Data centre in Sydney went offline because of the storms

Lealey · 06/06/2016 at 14:58

Rockliff, Selwood, Dahlhouse or Gray ?

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:06

    Dahlhous is a forward, so unless you need a forward cross him off.

    I have RGray and Rocky but not Selwood. already had Bartel, Blitz and Danger so thought another cat was too much. If that wasn't an issue i would have Selwood by now, he GUN.

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 17:51

    Depends whether you want to worry about injury, forgetting how to play, paying too much, or chucking wobblies, respectively

      Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 19:39

      My thoughts exactly, which type of risk to take is down to the individual.

    Tommo · 06/06/2016 at 17:57

    Dahlhaus for mine

marcus · 06/06/2016 at 15:15

hey guys I have 14 trades left and I'm going tippa to Gibson, and I also want to get rid of grant birchall or hall but I think I might just hold and trade to somebody who just had a bye in a few weeks like simpson.

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:32

    Hold your underperforming premos until their bye – especially as you are more than halfway through your trade allowance

      marcus · 06/06/2016 at 20:51

      yeah thanks jezza that's what I was thinking. might trade byrne jones to simpson then

breakevens · 06/06/2016 at 15:16

What midfielder should I go with for 523k or under?? Already have Gray

    Harry · 06/06/2016 at 15:47

    Do you have Selwood?

      james · 06/06/2016 at 16:23

      Hunter, Zieball, Rockliff

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:03

    Selwood. don't think, just do.

      Dave · 06/06/2016 at 17:04

      In favour of the rock?

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:33

    Selwood. Lock.

    Andrew · 06/06/2016 at 19:11

    I have just traded in Mitchell (Hawthorn) 440k as my m8. Might be a risk but he is a premo, last two scores in the 90's even with his hard tags.

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 19:49

    Don't like any of them, I'd probably paint the fence in a week or two, possibly get Jansen and/or trengove and lock in gun mids that are consistent.

james · 06/06/2016 at 15:21

Westhoff or Wingard community they're about the same price with the same avg of 85 wingard 8.3% teams where as westhoff is in 0.8% who should i select as my F6

    Tommo · 06/06/2016 at 16:16

    Out of those 2, probably Wingard

      Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:02

      Out of those 2, probably Wingard

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 17:53

    Both great value. Hoff is top 8 fwd 2 years in a row.

Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 15:54

I'm going for it with Rocky
Have Hopper and Keays for bench cover
Only problem, who to trade out?

Def: Shaw, Adams, Docherty, Laird, Tippa, DBJ, (Brown, Byrne)
Mid: Danger, GAJ, Parker, Pendles, Hannebery, Libba, Priddis, Hopper (Keays, Smith, McPherson)
Ruc: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
Fwd: Martin, Franklin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Kennedy, Petracca)

Ranked 3300 need some PODs

    Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 16:04

    Also thinking someone to Collins

    Mac · 06/06/2016 at 16:26

    Both Hopper, Keays, Smith have low breakevens. I'd go Keays, poorer team if you really need an option. Brown to Collins lock that in. If you decide to hold your mid rookies you could look at Kennedy to Zorko?

      Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 16:33

      Can't do Keays
      3.3k short
      Can do that if I trade out Kennedy or Byrne out instead of Brown

        lachlanmcleanportfolio · 06/06/2016 at 16:42

        then say bye bye to rocky

The Ranger · 06/06/2016 at 15:54

He's doing my head in again Trigger!
I could go Aaron Young to Rocky this week…

Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 16:12

Top 8 mids?
Have Danger, Hanners, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Parker, Rockliff and Libba in my mids
Will get rid of Libba eventually and am thinking Selwood or Neale.

    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 16:18

    Those two or Robbie Gray.

    Mac · 06/06/2016 at 16:24

    Ward would also be around the mark.

      Big G · 06/06/2016 at 16:34

      Lachie Neale: great POD

        Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 16:41

        A bit pricey though

          Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:02

          missed boat on Neale, too expensive now.

Dan · 06/06/2016 at 16:16

Before last round, was ranked 263rd, however due to some big disappointing scores this week, I've dropped down to 808th, after my worst score of the year only scoring 2095. This is how my team sits

Back: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Gibson, McDonald-Tip (Tucker, Williams)
Mid: Danger, Pendles, Parker, Ablett, Liberatore, Wines, J.Smith, Petracca (Hewett, Keays, Dunkley)
Ruc: Goldy, Nic Nat (Wyatt)
For: J.J.Kennedy, Martin, Montagna, Hall, Kerridge, Barlow (Paine, Long)

Got 16 trades left, with $470k in the bank, what to you guys suggest I do?
Cheers Guys

    Moustachio · 06/06/2016 at 17:56

    Hall to a PTA fwd. Find a way to replace a mid rookie with a rockie, selwood, gray type

Jordan · 06/06/2016 at 16:16

Alright, I am ranked 397, with 17 trades left, I have a few possible trades with 1 a certainty in M.Brown to Sammy Collins, the others are;

George Hewett to Zach Merrett and then chuck him down front for Menaspud and downgrade him to Jansen or Stewart in a few weeks.
Zaharakis to Lachie Neale or Joel Selwood (opinions on which one to go for would be loved)
and Ollie Wines to Lachie Neale or Joel Selwood.

Thanks in advance

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:00

    you are paying way over for Neale, he would have been good 3 weeks ago, missed him now compared to what Selwood could do for over $100k cheaper.

    Stay well away from Ross

      Jordan · 06/06/2016 at 17:08

      For Zaharakis or Ollie Wines though? I would say Zaha just because he is jumping around between 20 and 100 whereas Wines has been consistently 80-100. Thoughts?

        james · 06/06/2016 at 17:58

        Keep Zaha playing Hawks this week they wont tag him

Shake n bake · 06/06/2016 at 16:19

I knew this would get brushed under the carpet, I'm
still waiting for some expert to please explain Lairds

    Mac · 06/06/2016 at 16:22

    Short cheap kicks. Nothing contested.

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 16:57

    Effective kick 4 Points
    Ineffective kick 0 Points
    Clanger kick -4 Points
    Effective Handball 1.5 Points
    Ineffective handball 0 Points
    Handball clanger -4 Points
    Handball receive 1.5 Point
    Hardball get 4.5 Points
    Loose-ball get 4.5 Points
    Goal 8 Points
    Behind 1 Point
    Mark uncontested (maintaining possession) 2 Points
    Mark contested (maintaining possession) 6 Points
    Mark uncontested (from opposition) 4 Points
    Mark contested (from opposition) 8 Points
    Tackles 4 Points
    Free kick for 4 Points
    Free kick against -4 Points
    Hitout to Advantage 5 Points
    Gather from Hitout 2 Points

    For example, while other games will award points for a kick no matter how far it goes or where it's directed, Champion Data will award zero points for a kick that travels less than 40 meters to a contest.

      Gherkin · 06/06/2016 at 17:04

      Hi Southern. I still don't really understand. Are you saying that his DE of 83.3% does not apply to SC? That they have a different efficiency system? If so, that makes sense, although a little annoying, but I understand why his score was so low.

      It doesn't actually explain that for a kick to be effective, it needs to go to a teammate or be at least 40m to a contest. That is where the confusion is i'd say. I didn't watch the game so I can't comment of his 'SC efficiency'.

        Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 17:42

        That's right it's a different efficiency system basically, and sometimes there will a large discrepancy between the scores due to details that the fantasy stats don't include.

        I look at the stats on the AFL website and I'm surprised that he only got a 74 too, but I highly doubt they rig the scores as some assume. The information above is directly from the supercoach website/app in the help section.

        Laird's stats

        11 kicks – technically could be worth zero (if he kicked short kicks out of the back goal square after a minor score there would be zero points for a receive or gather also)

        19 handballs – with a receive or gather for each handball these could be worth only 57 points. That's also if CD saw them all as 100% effective, if not then subtract 1.5 points for each one that wasn't.

        Thing is he might've gone 100% by foot according to the AFL website, yet SC could've scored them as zero due to the distance of them. This would leave his handballs at a lower efficiency of 60-70%, so we might have to drop the handball score of 57 down to 48 or so. (6 handballs ineffective)

        Plus two of those handballs could've been his clangers (turnovers) we don't know.

        2 Clangers – Negative 8 points

        8 uncontested marks from team mates – 16 points

        Free kick – Plus 4

        That's a worse case scenario (also quick and rough) look at his scoring.

        60 points I get, let's give him 14 points for the kicks and you have 74. I'd assume the scoring was right for Laird.

        And yeah it sucks cos I own him lol.

          Smote · 07/06/2016 at 01:40

          Thanks for all the time you put into answering questions from the community. Helped me with the enigma that sometimes is the supercoach scoring system. Next season i will be avoiding any serial short kickers i think.

            Southern S · 07/06/2016 at 11:49

            Thanks and no problems Smote.

            Maybe taking it easy with a bit of confidence lacking due to his injured toe?

            I'd put it down to an anomaly anyway just like Goldstein's 49, unlikely to do everything wrong for supercoach scoring in another game.

    Beezneez · 06/06/2016 at 17:22

    I was a bit surprised by his score as well – had to go to fanfooty to find out after the HS site was down for two days. Thought he had a fair bit of it after sitting a lot of the first quarter on the bench. I think Mac in his reply has nailed the reason for his low score. Also, the Crows would have been trying to ease him into the game after his layoff. Noticed him on the ground after the match with his left leg heavily iced but expect (hope ) he will be alright for next week. Expect his output and contested possessions and marks to improve as he gets back to match fitness.

SC16 · 06/06/2016 at 16:22

thoughts on jarad jansen 123k midfielder for brisbane and scored a 98
21 touches 2 marks 5 tackles and 1.0
thoughts on js or anything else?

    Mac · 06/06/2016 at 16:35

    Played 1 game. Wait until hes on the bubble.

      SC16 · 06/06/2016 at 16:41

      i need 2 downgrades this week though so i can upgrade next week, im top 4 in all my leagues and i want to get to 1st

SC16 · 06/06/2016 at 16:25

also thoughts on kade stewart?

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:56

    Would hold off. Langford was managed last week and if he comes back in vs Ess then Stewart probably makes way

    Danners · 06/06/2016 at 22:01

    Wait a week, did look good this week though

Micky · 06/06/2016 at 16:53

Community, any thoughts on trades plz, i have 14 trades left with 30 k in the bank

def- shaw, simpson, laird, gibson, pittard, DBJ( ruggles, collins)
mid- danger, pendles, parker, shiel, priddis, mitchell, liberatore, keays, ( davis, macpherson, dunkley)
ruc- gawn, nic nat(goertz)
fwd- martin, montagna, hall, barlow, zorko, j kennedy( petracca, mcgovern)

Tommy · 06/06/2016 at 17:00

Definitely going De Goey up to Zorko or Dahl, but not sure on which to do for the second trade.

AMT to Collins (Collins would be on field)
Keays to Jansen (Would be on bench)

Which one community?

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:18

    I think AMT might get a couple of weeks from the MRC.

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 18:57

    McD-T has been cleared to play so would hold him. Is there someone else on your defensive bench you could turn into Collins?

      Tommo · 06/06/2016 at 19:39

      Only 2 i could is Brand or TMac, and i wouldn't gain much from them. I only need at most 100k to do the De Goey to Zorko/Dahl trade though.

        jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 21:53

        Tough one. You could trade him now if you absolutely have to – I suspect most people will upgrade him during the byes anyway. But you'll miss out on the rest of the money he has to make in that time

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 19:32

    I wouldn't trade either AMT or Keays.

    Keays just got his second best score of the season and his BE is only 32. If he can get a 70-80 next week he will go up a bit and can be traded during the byes, you never know might need his scores in round 13 and 14.

    Jansen only just played his first game………..

    Collins looks like a must have at the moment but I'd try to find a different trade out option than AMT.

      Tommo · 06/06/2016 at 19:36

      I want to upgrade De Goey, so needing to paint the fence for this to occur. I only have 77k so can't just straight up upgrade him. I could possibly downgrade either TMac or Brand, but would make little cash from both of them, and i got no one else to downgrade to in defense.

        Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 19:57

        Tough situation. Tmac no way. He is now scoring well and I'm assuming you got him cheap.

        De Goey out, AMT forward and Collins in could be an option. Sit on the warchest and ponder the next move?

        I reckon Collins can score alright for a D6. Then you can get a forward during the byes Dahl has round 14 bye so purchase after?

        Could grab Dusty or Deledio after round 13 as other options.

          Tommy · 06/06/2016 at 20:10

          Sorry, should have specified, i am talking about Trent Mackenzie, the one who hasnt played for ages. I guess whats stopping me from doing that is not liking having to play AMT on the bench while having Collins on field. Tracca and him going for that F6 spot if i do that trade.

tuxCS · 06/06/2016 at 17:09

Made a small mistake last week of trading in Mathieson, and not noticing that he was out. I'm pretty confident that he'll get back in the team, especially considering Brisbanes current form. Im trading AMT down to Collins this week, and am probably going to upgrade keays/smith to Rockliff next week to complete my midfield.

Team looks like this:

Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Laird, KK, Adams. (Collins, DBJ)

Dangerfield, Neale, Pendelbury, Ablett, Selwood, R. Gray, Liberatore, Hopper. (Smith, Keays, Mathieson)

Naitanui, Gawn (Chol)

Zorko, Merrett, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca. (Cox, Menadue)

I'm hoping Hall has a couple of weeks off soon to rest up and then come back firing. I'm going to hold KK all season unless he gets an LTI. Other than those two "issues" im pretty happy with my teams progress, only 13 trades left, but im content.

    Leeds17 · 06/06/2016 at 18:37

    I saw some signs from KK on the weekend he's was starting to get back to his best

Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 17:19

Kennedy or Brown out?
If it's brown then I have to trade Smith out instead of Keays

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:40

    what about Kennedy AND Brown?

      Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 17:55

      Then I can't get rocky because Kennedy is in my fwd

        Derek · 06/06/2016 at 18:06

        there is always a way, show your team!

          Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 18:07

          Def: Shaw, Adams, Docherty, Laird, Tippa, DBJ, (Brown, Byrne)
          Mid: Danger, GAJ, Parker, Pendles, Hannebery, Libba, Priddis, Hopper (Keays, Smith, McPherson)
          Ruc: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
          Fwd: Martin, Franklin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Kennedy, Petracca)

          Derek · 06/06/2016 at 18:07

          you already have Rocky? see post above – Have Danger, Hanners, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Parker, Rockliff and Libba in my mids

            Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 18:08

            Sorry about that
            That would be after trades

              Derek · 06/06/2016 at 18:57

              i see what you mean, no DPP in the midfield.

Derek · 06/06/2016 at 17:37

having a look at the top 40 ranked players, one thing stands out to me the most, and that is the total team values.

on average, the top 40 team values are about $13.1mil.

This weeks winner had a value close to $13.3mil.

i look at my team value and see it is only $12.6mil. (but still have 17 trades left)

Unfortunately we can't see how many trades the high ranked players have left, we could see if they have traded their ass off to get the high value team and are hanging on by a thread. I always try and squeeze every last cent out of my rookies, but even then i'm a fair way off the leaders when it comes to value.

i have always said that we need at least $14mil to get to proper 'Full Premium' and i think that is still the case. I just didn't realsie how close the high ranked players were.

For the high ranking players in the community, id love to know your Team Value + rank + how many trades left, just to get an idea of how the top players might have gotten to $13+mil already.

    Johnny · 06/06/2016 at 17:53

    I'm at 12.7mill dropped back to 900 rank. To me they've just traded hard. Jumped on inform players but mainly all their players are in form, that's why they're up there. Almost thrown in the towel can't seem to score with a team I've convinced myself is A1

    Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 18:03

    I'm at 13.1mil with 17 trades left after last weekend but the problem is I am ranked 3300

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 19:05

    Ranked 784 – total team value is $12.93 mil with 19 trades left. I've climbed 1,133 spots in the last three weeks and my team value has only gone up by about 160k-ish. Also depends on who is playing or not. I suspect a lot of the top players who have Goldy would have increased their total team value last week by upgrading a rookie to a Tippett/Lycett-type to avoid a zero and preserve their ranking.

      murray · 07/06/2016 at 10:48

      I am at 12.9m with 19 trades left but only 5k in bank, I have only 2 premo mids to get and 1 or 2 for backline and forwards. I am about 18000th

        Derek · 07/06/2016 at 11:09

        plenty of trades left. i can see you flying home second half of the year

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/06/2016 at 19:25

    I think someone posted a website way back earlier in the year around Rd 4-5 that showed u how many trades a SC team had left or used, just had to add the team name. Was sctraded or something similar.
    Can't find that post now would b handy.

      The Ranger · 06/06/2016 at 20:02

      Pretty sure it got closed down

      hedski · 06/06/2016 at 20:03

      Pretty sure the site was shut down a few rounds ago. Thats why you can't see peoples full teams now.
      Think it was sctradecounter.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/06/2016 at 20:08

      Ahh I see

    Redgumwon · 06/06/2016 at 19:30

    I'm ranked at just under 1700 and have 18 trades left, with a team value of 12,625,400. I agree with Jezzahill that it dependz on who is playing and who isn't for points and team value. I held Laird on the bench for 4 weeks and have traded rookies before their peak in value. I've paid overs on a few premium players just to get then in the side when I needed cover for injuries.

    john · 06/06/2016 at 19:42

    Ranked 179 – but as you suspect been trading my ass off so only 13 trades left. $13.3 Mil

      Derek · 07/06/2016 at 09:36

      great rank and great team value. hopefully you are close to a full team with only 13 trades left.

      i worry about injuries this year in the second half of the year. Goldy & NicNat good examples. I think DPP, strong bench cover and loophole players will be essential to success this year.

      I had Motlop at F7/M9 from about round 15 last year, with a non-playing rookie to loophole with. He finished the year on fire. You need to find a Motlop type

        John · 07/06/2016 at 12:46

        Nice suggestion on Motlop Derek – I am 3 from full premo, good swing sets but need to manipulate the midfield to activate those again. Nicnat a worry this week. I went without Goldy. Have cox as coverage for now.

    Jake · 06/06/2016 at 21:29

    2360th with 17 trades, 44k & 12.8m team value

    MaccasMarvels · 06/06/2016 at 22:04

    I'm ranked 441 with 18 trades left, value 13mil plus change. I've still got 7 of my original rookies – M Adams, AMT, M Brown, Hewett, Kerridge, B Kennedy and Menadue. B Kennedy becomes Collins this weekend with AMT going forward to open up that DPP link again. I have so many fwd/mids (like most I suppose) I really feel the need to have fwd in my mids again. That link for cover and trading purposes is gold. I think the other trade this week is an upgrade to try to stay with the leading pack.

    Maestro · 06/06/2016 at 22:27

    That question has generated some excellent info Derek. My team is at $12.98 but holding a few injured players has cost me dearly through rounds 5-8. Had a stinker in round 8 and fell 10k places. So a team value of just on $13m is no guarantee!! Starting to claw my way back. Have focused on getting the best rookies every time they are on the bubble and holding them, not jumping the gun after they've played one game.

      Derek · 07/06/2016 at 09:40

      thanks Maestro. i had the same stinker rounds. held Rocky, Wingard & laird and BCrouch, even Rich, JPK and Barlow were on my bench at times and pumped out two sub 1900 scores to end my season.

      team looks good now and i'm planning to cause some trouble in the big leagues i'm in, a few of them i started the year 0-8, and have won the last 3.

    Turtlecoach · 06/06/2016 at 22:58

    Hey Derek, I'm currently ranked 201, team value is 13.175 mil and I have 17 trades left. I've been reading your input here for a while now, so feel obligated to try and give what little I have to offer to say thanks, not just to you, but to the whole community. The big difference for me this year was getting the right rookies at the start. Have made three injury related trades, held laird, but not Rocky. Am trying to run my team like a business, don't trade your rookies till they are plump and never pay top $ for premiums, pick your targets and get them when they are at their cheapest, I haven't made one upgrade this year just because I had the cash to spend and have had several weeks with upwards of 400k just sitting in the kitty. Clearly this is all mixed in with a little bit of luck, and many, many hours of research. Most of this you already know, but I hope there is something in this that helps someone, cheers.

      John · 07/06/2016 at 08:20

      Nice one Turtle – around similar rank and this year with starting rookies I only had to make one corrective trade in first three rounds which I had never managed before. Also similar trading method by placing a high importance on the undervalued rather than chasing points. I have used the paint the fence method almost every week in a quest to get to full premo ASAP. Therefore I have only 13 left. Hours of research yes, Luck absolutely but could just about be out of that now NicNat on crutches.

      Derek · 07/06/2016 at 09:31

      excellent work turtlecoach, love the name – slow and steady!

      keep going, you can challenge for the top spot which is very exciting. i was 46th overall last year with 2 rounds to go and still 2 trades in hand (300 off top), was very exciting.

      i love what you said about running the team like a business – brilliant!

      your strategy is very similar to mine, get the right rookies and squeeze every cent you can out of them, hold trades, buy keepers cheaper than their starting price, but also know who you are going to get (or at least a very short list)

      Your team value is excellent, and you still have trades left. Id love to see your full team.

        Turtlecoach · 07/06/2016 at 16:43

        Thanks Derek, team is:
        Shaw Docherty Simpson Laird Adams Byrne (Hartley Brown)
        Peddles Danger Ablett Ward Priddus Parker Libba Smith (Hewlett Keays macpherson)
        Gawn Nicnat (Chol)
        Zorko Lids Wells Wingard Hall Kerridge (amt Petracca)

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/06/2016 at 23:29


    lachlanmcleanportfolio · 07/06/2016 at 02:04

    no shit??

Kevdog · 06/06/2016 at 17:39

Here's my team
DEF: Shaw, Simpson, Gibbo, Adams, KKolo, DBJ (Collins, Broad)
MID: Hanners, Danger, Ablett, Jelwood, Shiel, Steven, Libba, Smith (Keays, Davis, Macpherson)
RUC: Gawn, Martin (Currie)
FWD: Zorko, Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Tippa, Petracca)

16 trades left and 116K in the bank. Do I trade or do I hold ?

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 19:06

    Hold this week I reckon – even with Steph Martin

Bobby Singh · 06/06/2016 at 17:58

Trade Greene, Hall or Kerridge to Gray?

    Don't Blush Baby' · 06/06/2016 at 18:30

    Dunno about Gray, just wish he would kick it more than handball it, he won't be in my Top 8 Mids atm.

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 18:37


Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 17:58

AMT free to play!!!

    Danners · 06/06/2016 at 21:58

    A bit of a surprise that he got away with it and Hawkins didn't

      JamiesNinjas13 · 07/06/2016 at 10:01

      you don't punish the predator or he will hunt you next time you go hiking in the forest

    Blueth · 07/06/2016 at 13:44

    The MRP loves our boy Walla. That hit on Danger was probably a few weeks too, thanks MRP!

Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 17:59

Hoping Brown gets dropped!
That would really help me out

    Steeeve · 06/06/2016 at 20:48

    Same. Or either Ben Ken/George Hewett out

Pom · 06/06/2016 at 18:10

Just for interest. Is Majak daw viable if named? Has a 90 average and a negative break even. Ruck/Fwd, $243,600.
Job security is sketchy to say the least,

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 18:53

    Job security is sketchy to say the least,


      Kev · 06/06/2016 at 19:51

      Nah. North won't play Goldy, Brown, Daw in the same team

Micky · 06/06/2016 at 18:34

Community, any thoughts on trades plz, i have 14 trades left with 30 k in the bank

def- shaw, simpson, laird, gibson, pittard, DBJ( ruggles, collins)
mid- danger, pendles, parker, shiel, priddis, mitchell, liberatore, keays, ( davis, macpherson, dunkley)
ruc- gawn, nic nat(goertz)
fwd- martin, montagna, hall, barlow, zorko, j kennedy( petracca, mcgovern)

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 19:07

    Hold this week

Nick · 06/06/2016 at 18:41

184K in the bank, just 11 trades (I'll never learn) – what are my priorities? Team below:

Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Laird, Bartel and Boyd. S Collins and B Williams

Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Parker, Hunter, Libba, Mitchell, and J Smith. Oliver, R David and Macpherson.

Gawn and Goldy. Chol.

Dahl, Waite, Kerridge, Wells, De Goey, AMT. Petracca and Grimley.

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 19:10

    Priority number one would be to hold this week! Also only target rookies who are on the bubble from now on with solid JS

The Ranger · 06/06/2016 at 18:41

Do I turn Aaron Young into Selwood or Rocky?

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 18:51

    Last 4 games of each player.

    Young. 102, 86, 118, 95.

    Selwood 150, 82, 72, 69.

    Rockliff 204, 0, 0, 0

    Not a huge fan of either trade myself, sure I'd have Selwood or Rocky in the place of Young but I wouldn't be in any rush to do it.

    Rocky could fall apart at any time and Selwood hasn't been pumping out huge scores in the last month.

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 18:52

    Last 4 weeks for each player*

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 19:10

    Hold until his bye

      The Ranger · 06/06/2016 at 21:08

      I'm trying to Jezza but his BE has hit 84 and I don't want to see him drop coin while the other two gain it.
      This might be the last time I can go straight from Young to a real premo with only a 50k spend.

        jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 21:43

        True. It depends on how many trades you have left I suppose! Still a good trade regardless of whether you do it now or not – I'd go Selwood personally

          The Ranger · 06/06/2016 at 22:05

          18 left and 90k in the bank. Leaning toward Selwood if I do trade, partly due to the skin grafts I'm still paying for from last years Rocky experience and partly due to Geelongs draw.

        Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 22:00

        Young won't drop bugger all cash with a BE of 84, in the last 4 games he's scored over that BE anyway not sure what you're worried about.

          The Ranger · 06/06/2016 at 22:16

          He's playing well but he's still Aaron Young not Selwood or Rocky.
          And as I said above this week may well be the closest they are in price. Young has had five good rounds but also has scores of 59, 65 and 66.
          Not sold on the trade, just mulling it over in the usual early in the week fashion.

Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 18:45

When JJ gets back should we be looking at him in our backline?

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 18:53

    Probably, but not the week he gets back.

    Northernsoul74 · 06/06/2016 at 20:54

    Space left in my team for him.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/06/2016 at 10:02

    Surely you have more pressing issues than something that is 5+weeks away lol

Nicholas · 06/06/2016 at 19:11

Here is my team:

Defenders- Laird, Smith, Bartel, Shaw, Rich, Tippa, Brown, Brand

Midfielders- Ablett, Danger, Parker, Selwood, Priddis, Gray, Libba, Wines, Ben Ken, Smoth, MacPerson

Ruck- Gawn, Nic Nat, Cox

Forawards- Franklin, Martin, Wells, Barlow, Hall, Kerridge, Petracca, Menadue

14 trades and no money in the bank. Also ranked 16937 and team galue is just over 30 million.

Regretting picking up Franklin did not expect Dahlaus to suddenly go so cheap so quickly… Also I still do not have Zorko. Wines to Rocky is really tempting this week. If Rocky goes 130 how much will he increase? Rich and Hall are starting to shit me but I guess I have to hold and hope they come good. Brown to Collins is probably a lock for me and I would probably want to get rid of Ben Ken if he plays. Any trade suggestions are welcomed.

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 19:26

    Franklin has one low score of 69, the way he's playing this year he could pump out a big score at any time.

    You talk about Dahlhaus going down, yet if you'd picked him you'd also be regretting it with his 69 score this week.

    Rocky is projected a 104 and a 20k increase, no rush to jump on such a risk.

      Nicholas · 06/06/2016 at 19:56

      I am saying if I held and traded in no one then I could bring in Dahlhaus this week or the next once he drops fully. I may have to pass on Zorko this year and maybe get him down the track for Hall or Barlow if they are not constistent because Dahl is too consistent and too cheap to ignore. I think I will pass on Rocky this week 30k tops is not too much.

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 19:40

    Franklin is a good pick. Hall scores well against weaker teams, Sun's draw lightens up soon. Rich can't score when tagged (i think Rocky might get more attention now). All are HOLD for now.

    who do you have in mind for your D6? McVeigh looks good value. You could go Brown to Collins and Benken to Mcveigh (swing menadue to mids, swing Tippa to forwards

      Nicholas · 06/06/2016 at 19:52

      Do I have to pass on Rocky because I think he will increase a lot this week. I am not sure if Mcveigh is the best choice because if byes but I have not really looked at byes much yet

      Nicholas · 06/06/2016 at 20:00

      Thinking maybe Simpson or Rance I really just want a consistent pick aa my last defender to bring in. Could you let me know Dahls B/E also

        Blake · 06/06/2016 at 20:20

        Dahls B/E is 123

Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 19:28

Trading in*

The_Black_Mamba · 06/06/2016 at 19:47

Joel Selwood or Lauchie Neal for the last spot in my midfield? Both share the same bye. If I get selwood will have an extra 200k, if I get neal will have 100 k. Thoughts?

    CaPtKaOs · 06/06/2016 at 20:12

    flip of the coin really. neale for consistency. selwood for the higjer ceiling. ladt spot for me should be consistent, so leaning toward neale.

chris pepperall · 06/06/2016 at 19:56

Team as is with 14 trades left, $83 400 in bank
Def – Shaw, Doherty, simpson, bartel, laird, collins (brand, williams)

Mids – Danger, Parker, Treloar, Sloane, Ablett, Libba, Prddis, R.Gray (davis, keays, dunkley)

Rucs – Gawn, Nic Nat (Grimley)

Fwds – Zorko, Wells, Deledio, Merrett, Kerridge, Petracca. (Mcdonald Tippa, Cox)

Anyone see any obvious changes needed???


Leeds17 · 06/06/2016 at 20:04

Looking at his midfield it's pretty cookie cutter, obviously a well publicized risk but Rocky could be a POD with the monster ceiling to rocket him up the ranks.

    Tommo09 · 06/06/2016 at 20:43

    Thanks Leeds

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 22:04

    Yep but it's Rocky, and he's been back for one game.

    Not sure I need to say anymore. Risk is huge.

    I'd wait a week and pay the extra 20-30k.

breakevens · 06/06/2016 at 20:19

Thoughts fellas going for full premo as soon as possible
AMT out for Suckling
Smith out for Selwood
leaving me with one more rookie spot (Adams) and 13 trades

    Rocksta · 06/06/2016 at 21:10

    The aim is to have Full Premo 'after or during' the byes.
    Personally, I'm 2 away from Full Premo. Will cash in a cow in rd13, and then upgrade two cows to rd13 bye premiums in rd 14. As such, I'll be full premo as of rd 14.
    Of course, it all depends on whom you want to bring in/ don't have in your team, and on your bye structure. I'm one away in defense, and 1 away fwd, and as such will be bringing in Simpson and Lids, both of whom have the rd13 bye.
    I think it's most important to build your bank over the next two weeks, whilst making sure the players you bring in compliment your bye structure/numbers.

      Derek · 06/06/2016 at 21:46

      Byes have been later this year, changed when people will get to full premium.

      This year the telling factor has been cash generation. Don't know how some people will be able to say they are full premium with a team value less than $14mil without having a couple of sub-premius

        Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 21:57

        They are talking about full premo on field, and probably counting 400k+ players as premo.

          Rocksta · 06/06/2016 at 22:58

          Fair Call guys. To clarify, I only have 2 remaining on field rookies, which I'll upgrade in Rd 14. This will leave me with a couple of players that I initially picked as 'Keepers', but haven't performed as such and will have to be dealt with later in the year should their output not improve. They are Hall.and KK. That said, I'll only move them on later in the season if injuries are kind to me and thus have the luxury of spare trades.

    Danners · 06/06/2016 at 22:26

    Smith to Selwood sounds good, I wouldn't classify Suckling as a premo

Campbell · 06/06/2016 at 20:26

Team as is with 12 trades left, $3.8 in bank
Shaw Rance Docherty Amt M Adams Yeo // Williams Broad
Shiel Ablett Selwood Parker R Gray Liberatore J Smith Hopper // Keays MacPherson Schoenfeld
Naitanui Gawn // Cox
D Martin Montagna Dahlhaus Franklin Hall Wells // Kerridge Petracca
If I trade who to trade and who to get for them.

    Blueth · 06/06/2016 at 20:37

    you sir have a trading problem

      Blueth · 06/06/2016 at 20:39

      I may have an alcohol problem but YOUUUU have a trading problem

    Blueth · 06/06/2016 at 20:43

    Also, Josh Schoenfeld? Were you drunk? Pretty sure i am

    breakevens · 06/06/2016 at 20:48

    Can't really do much with 3.8k mate

    Brent · 06/06/2016 at 21:59

    Gotta learn to save a few more trades…mayb grab Collins then hold off until after buys

      Cam · 07/06/2016 at 08:04

      Who do I get Collins for?

HallyM8 · 06/06/2016 at 21:10

Hey community, just looking for a bit of feedback on how my teams looking at this stage of the season
DEF: M.Boyd, J.Gibson, S.Savage, Z.Williams, R.Laird, M.Adams (S.Collins, K.Brand)
MID: P.Dangerfield, D.Hannerbury, L.Neale, D.Shiel, G.Ablett, T.Liberatore, M.Priddis, T.Rockliff (R.Davis, R.Mathieson, J.Trengrove)
RUCK: M.Gawn, N.Niatanui (S.Grimley)
FWD: D.Zorko, L.Franklin, K.Tippett, Z.Merrett, A.Hall, D.Wells (C.Petracca, B.Crocker)
10 trades and 40k in the bank, thanks

    Northernsoul74 · 06/06/2016 at 21:30

    10 trades is very low. We're only half way through the season.

      HallyM8 · 06/06/2016 at 21:43

      Teams just about complete, 10 trades should be enough to survive any injuries throughout the season

    Blueth · 06/06/2016 at 21:37

    And I thought Campbell had a trading problem

      Blueth · 06/06/2016 at 21:38

      Nice team though. Just put your fingers away for a bit

    Blueth · 06/06/2016 at 21:39

    I reckon you need a MID/FWD in your midfield for the bye rounds though

      HallyM8 · 06/06/2016 at 21:44

      Going to try shift Petracca into the midfield or even hall on to the bench if he doesn't lift

    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 21:56

    Trading players in before the bubble is risky, backfired with Mathieson so I wouldn't do it with Trengove.

    I'd suggest reversing the Rockliff trade too. No rush, you don't have the trades to risk it.

      HallyM8 · 06/06/2016 at 22:06

      Got it the wrong way round, already have Trengrove and Mathieson could become any other rookie depending on who gets names this week
      I'm willing to take the bet on Rocky, the other options are Selwood and Ward but even they aren't as consistent as they should be so I think they're risky as well

        Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 22:11

        So you bought mathieson early.

        And you bought Trengove the week he came in which was last week. Getting Rocky after one game back is very risky.

        You're going to need a lot of luck with this approach.

          HallyM8 · 06/06/2016 at 22:19

          If Mathieson isn't named this week I reverse the trades and bring in someone who is
          Take a look at rockys scores in the second half of last season when he came back from injury, if there's a risk worth taking its this one
          Every SuperCoach player needs luck, but this approach has worked for me before so I'm confident in it

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 21:56

    whst is your team value and rank?

      HallyM8 · 06/06/2016 at 22:08

      Team value is sitting at 12.7 and will hopefully appreciate as I think many of my players are underpriced
      Rank is a dissapointing 9300 because of a 1900 caused by injuries and players out a few weeks back but building it back with big scores the last couple of weeks

    breakevens · 07/06/2016 at 20:28

    Gee Shane Savage and Zac Williams those two make me nervous just looking at them

Cam · 06/06/2016 at 21:29

Thoughts on Elliot yeo?

    JB_Tank · 06/06/2016 at 21:37


    Southern S · 06/06/2016 at 21:53

    Go for it.

    Danners · 06/06/2016 at 22:14

    Better options

    The Ranger · 06/06/2016 at 22:20

    Worst starting pick of the year for me.
    Massive disappointment.

    Leeds17 · 07/06/2016 at 06:07


    Neverweaken · 07/06/2016 at 06:42

    Traded out early and glad I did

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/06/2016 at 09:57

    Cocky and lazy, he did the robbery and stole a girl from my mate inside a Melbourne nightclub once lol

Chubby McChubby · 06/06/2016 at 21:36

What do you think of these two trades?
1. McTip-Collins and Gresham – Ward or Parker

2. Brown – Collins and Ben Ken to Dalhaus?

    jezzahill · 06/06/2016 at 21:47

    Second option – Gresham still has cash to make

      Chubby McChubby · 06/06/2016 at 22:12

      sorry that should be Hewett to Ward Or Parker!!!

    Derek · 06/06/2016 at 21:48

    Hold AMT, has cash to make

    What does full team look like?

      Chubby McChubby · 06/06/2016 at 21:57

      Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, B.Smith, AMT, Weitiring, (DBJ,Hartley)
      Pendles, Shiel, Danger,Ablett, Libba, Zaha, J. Smith, G.Hewett (T.Adams, Gresham, Mcpherson)
      Dusty, Merret, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca, (Brown, Ben Ken)

      18 trades. 13k

        Chubby McChubby · 06/06/2016 at 21:58

        ooops. forgot the rucks – Gawn,Goldy, Coxxy

    Danners · 06/06/2016 at 21:57

    Trade AMT when he has his bye

John · 06/06/2016 at 21:38

FMD Dogdog turned up to training on crutches!!!! Grrrrr thought he only had a sore nose

    Hawks · 06/06/2016 at 22:49

    Like the back related hamstring.
    Leg related nose bleed

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/06/2016 at 23:31

    Achilles aparently

John · 06/06/2016 at 22:33

Which defender to get?

Finally getting rid of KK.

Defense is: Simo, Docherty, Shaw, (KK), Adams, Ruggles ( collins, Cole)

I have 564K to get a defender.

Any suggestions?

    CaPtKaOs · 06/06/2016 at 22:42

    rance. under 500k. you can pocket some change.

    Hawks · 06/06/2016 at 22:51


    Rocksta · 06/06/2016 at 23:14

    Keep KK!
    Look at upgrading Ruggles before you worry about trading out KK.
    I have him too, but am exercising great restraint as I want to upgrade my last onfield Rookie before worrying about dealing with KK.
    I must say though, he has really tested the patience!

      I N Pieman · 07/06/2016 at 09:57

      Agree Rocksta. Upgrade the team first then come back to cull underperforming premos. Your not improving your team by doing that

TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/06/2016 at 22:38

Surely now wells avg has tipped over 100 he is a top 6-8 fwd and a keeper?
Pretty good f6 me thinks.

    Hawks · 06/06/2016 at 22:51

    Keeper….top 8

    jezzahill · 07/06/2016 at 00:01

    Definitely the last upgrade to be done

      Derek · 07/06/2016 at 10:07

      the forwards have been hard to work out this year.

      i see the top 4 are clear cut.

      Lids, Dusty, Zorko, Dalhouse.

      I had barlow and Montagna as the other two, but both are uncertain now. Still think Joey will be top 6 and Barlow plays 4 of his last 5 at home

      After that there are Hall, Wells, Buddy, Chad, JJK, Gunston, Roo, and a few others.

    Southern S · 07/06/2016 at 11:56

    He's a quality player but he could end up hurting owners later on, or the other half of the competition that doesn't have him. Will be interesting,.

Dave · 06/06/2016 at 22:53

B: Shaw, Simpson, Laird, Gibson, Adams, AMT
(Tucker, S. Collins)

C: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Gray, Rockliff, Libba, Rich (Hewett, Smith, Menadue)

R: Goldy, Nic Nat

F: Zorko, Montagna, Hall, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge
(Petracca, Grimley)

17 Trades || ~$139k

Had a great week last week with ~2370 so there are no pressing issues.

If I decide to trade, it'd only be to upgrade Hall or Rich. I think I can do this as I have a few trades left and this would be my first sideways promo trade (including injury trades).

If I trade Hall, was thinking Merrett as he suits my byes and he doesn't look like slowing down. Is also a bit of a POD.

If I trade Rich, it'd be to Selwood or Ward.

Or could trade either to Boyd or McVeigh…


    jezzahill · 07/06/2016 at 00:01

    I like the Rich to Selwood/Ward trade

      Dave · 07/06/2016 at 08:39

      However Rich is in a lot less teams than Hall and isn't dropping money. Also has a good run of games from here, though not sure how much mid time he's getting at the moment. Would also be a perfect swap for Hanners before Rd 15.

      Most people will hold Hall as they are getting in Collins (got him before 1st game) and dealing with several rookies who have peaked like Kennedy, Brown, Hartley, etc.

      So by trading Hall it will save me dealing with his drop in price that everyone else will cop, fix me up for byes (Merrett, Dahlhaus) and hopefully put me half a step ahead of the pack in terms of not carrying a dud for an F6?

    Derek · 07/06/2016 at 09:57

    your team looks good with plenty of trades left. I would keep both Hall and Rich.

    Rich does have a good run of games. he scores well when he isn't tagged, so he will make a perfect D7 once you are at full premium (plus with a non-playing rookie with DPP in midfield, he can give you good midfield cover).

    The forward premiums have been hard to sort out this year. Still think Hall could be top 10. Suns have had a few tough games and he has scored poor. Easier games coming up. should go ok. F7 at worse.

SD6_ · 06/06/2016 at 23:22

Dont forget Jonas is out for another 4 weeks with a suspension and Hombsch is dealing with a hamstring issue

judd0 · 07/06/2016 at 00:41

Do that Steve, Ben Kennedy is done making cash anyway if he does get back in the side.
Have you got Collins yet? If not, trade Ben Ken, swing Tippa down, trade in Collins. Will net you a handy 215k.

    Steeeve · 07/06/2016 at 09:41

    Yep going Mitch Brown to Collins. A second rookie defender option would be great, but I'm not taking the risk for the sake of it.
    Thinking Mitch Brown to Sam Collins, and Ben Ken to Zorko.

Jock rey · 07/06/2016 at 02:01

Johns the train

Rick Grimes · 07/06/2016 at 09:26

Thoughts on The Chad? Has tonned up last 3. Port seem to have their mojo back. I was going to do to Dollshouse but the cash saved might come in handy.

    Steeeve · 07/06/2016 at 09:46

    If you can wait Dahl will get cheaper. Could drop under 500k. I was planning (like most) to get Lids after his bye. But Dahl could be too cheap to ignore instead.

    Derek · 07/06/2016 at 09:47

    i've had Chad from the start, went him instead of Hall (caused me a number of sleepless nights). I feel nervous everytime Chad plays now, thinking another 36 is just around the corner. i liked that his last two 100+ have been at grounds other than AO.

    Dahlhous will drop in price now, so look at him in two or three weeks. Wingard is this week or never.

      I N Pieman · 07/06/2016 at 09:55

      I've had Wingard before. He's frustrating. It was amazing relief when I could get him to F7. He covered mids & was useful in that spot at seasons end. Be careful what your buying into

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/06/2016 at 09:55

    would be interested to see what type of fwd role he is playing based on those 3 tons. His Inside 50s has increase maybe he is playing the HFF role which is pretty good. Would not trust him if he is playing the deep small fwd role though.

      Derek · 07/06/2016 at 10:00

      agree. If he is deep, he relys on Port winning games to score well.

      Steeeve · 07/06/2016 at 12:55

      It was positive to see him get the ball across half back as well as up forward last weekend.

Blake · 07/06/2016 at 09:35

My team is:

DEF: Shaw Docherty B.Smith AMT KK DBJ (Joyce K.Collins)
MID: Danger Pendles Parker Libba Zaka Kerridge Oliver Petracca (J.Smith Davis Hopper)
RUCK:Gawn Goldy (Chol)
FWD: Martin Hall Motlop Wells M.Adams Wingard (Simpkin Cox)

14 trades and $45,100 in the bank.

    Harley · 07/06/2016 at 11:01

    Hey Blake, sorry to say this but your team looks like it's in a bit of trouble this time of the year with only 14 trades left. However if zaka, KK and Motlop, hall were all performing you might be in a better situation, but they might come good so I would hold them all for now.

    I think you might need to try your best to get in a couple of the cheap mid premos. Gray, selwood, Rocky ? Maybe this week downgrade Amt or DBJ and upgrade Oliver or smith to one of those premos?

    In saying this I've made some bad decisions this year so take my advice lightly 🙂

    Good luck

      Blake · 07/06/2016 at 17:30

      Oliver and Smith's breakevens are only 39 and 40

Blake · 07/06/2016 at 10:11

What can I do with my side above

    Cam_H · 07/06/2016 at 14:12


    Further to what Harley's already advised, if I were you I'd look at trading out somebody with the Round 13 or 14 bye for Sam Collins of Freo', as I think you'll need to take some corrective action to avoid donuts in the first and possibly second week of the byes. Personally, Kade Kolodjashnij or Kieran Collins would be who I'd consider moving on. I'd hold your other trade for the week.

    Best of luck with whatever you decide!

      Blake · 07/06/2016 at 17:05

      Kade Kolodjashnij will play more than Kieran Collins so looking at Kieran Collins to Sam Collins.

The Beard · 07/06/2016 at 10:14

Can someone tell me how much coin Hall will drop if he puts up another 50-60 with a break even of 128?

    Bolton's Blues · 07/06/2016 at 10:30

    with his projected 87, he will drop another 22k

      The Beard · 07/06/2016 at 13:10

      Though what if he spuds up to like 50 again. Around 30k?

Micky · 07/06/2016 at 10:24

Community, any thoughts on trades plz, i have 14 trades left with 30 k in the bank

def- shaw, simpson, laird, gibson, pittard, DBJ( ruggles, collins)
mid- danger, pendles, parker, shiel, priddis, mitchell, liberatore, keays, ( davis, macpherson, dunkley)
ruc- gawn, nic nat(goertz)
fwd- martin, montagna, hall, barlow, zorko, j kennedy( petracca, mcgovern)
is there anyway of me bringing in rockliff?

    Harley · 07/06/2016 at 10:44

    I would probably hold trades for this week in you're situation. However if you really wanted to gamble on Rocky I could probably only see a downgrade of DBJ to Lee if he gets named this week and then upgrade Keays or Dunkley. You won't have enough cash to upgrade McPherson.

    I wouldn't be trading Hall or libba to get rocky in.

Mark · 07/06/2016 at 11:55

Is Nic Nat going to play this week, any news on the situation community?

    Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 12:47

    They are saying the crutches/moonboot were precautionary, and that he should be right to play. But he has been playing with an injury for about a month. Reckon he will miss one week personally, but at this point we dont really know sorry

    Southern S · 07/06/2016 at 12:49

    Not sure, I'm seriously considering either a cheaper FWD/Ruck to bench at F7/R3 or using Tippet/Lycett as a full time forward and ruck backup when needed.

    Not keen on a donut this week or at any later stage when a ruck goes down.

      Steeeve · 07/06/2016 at 12:53

      As a Goldy/NicNat owner I considered Tippett last week but copped the donut. Will have to sort something out later in the season though. Why oh why did I select Grimley over Cox???

        Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 13:51


      Some Guy · 07/06/2016 at 14:24

      That's why we traded in Cox when he was on the bubble

    Jackwatt$ · 07/06/2016 at 14:13

    Oh great I just traded NicNat in for Goldstein and now he's out. What do I do now? I've been so unlucky with injuries. Can you believe I started Rockliff AND Fyfe and now this BS. Wake me up when September comes….Go Dee's!

      Big G · 07/06/2016 at 14:37

      He hasn't been rules out just yet, but it is concerning.

Tom · 07/06/2016 at 12:25

do we get 3 trades next week?

    Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 12:34

    We sure do Tom

He Man · 07/06/2016 at 12:30

Who are the top 6 defenders at this stage boys?

    Big G · 07/06/2016 at 12:33

    Shaw, Simpson, Docherty, Boyd all averaging over 100.

      Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 12:36

      Bartel last 6 matches : 115, 109, 93, 96, 113, 123

      He has come good and has to be in top 6

      Southern S · 07/06/2016 at 12:46

      Agree with these 4 and Bartel at this stage, no.6 could be anyone even possibly JJ.

        poloko48 · 07/06/2016 at 13:02

        Zac Williams D6?

        Northernsoul74 · 07/06/2016 at 13:20

        I'm saving a spot for JJ.

      Dave · 07/06/2016 at 12:48

      Gibson avg 100.

        Steeeve · 07/06/2016 at 12:52

        On the dot

          Big G · 07/06/2016 at 14:38

          average inflated by that great game, but should still average 90

Hoot · 07/06/2016 at 12:40


now I have 9 MID Premo's.

Some would suggest this is silly BUT I have trades AND I can use MacPherson (out) to EMG loop Rockliff or another (up and down Parker) in regular game weeks as well as field a stronger squad through the BYE rounds.

My logic: If Rockliff is back, I cannot afford to NOT have him.

Current Rank: 140

    Steeeve · 07/06/2016 at 12:52

    Any of those 9 DPP?

      Derek · 07/06/2016 at 13:55

      I like the idea of a strong M9, but is best if DPP so you can put E on one of the non DPP mids, if they go well you can swing your M9 forward

    Gord29 · 07/06/2016 at 13:06

    what does the rest of your team look like if you can afford to get him at mid 9. if this was possible for me i would do it without hesitation as he can pump out massive scores like we seen on the weekend

    Blueth · 07/06/2016 at 13:12

    Me too M9 rocky…not a bad setup. I think if you've got over a cdecent amount of trades you kinda have to make the move

    Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 13:49

    If you've got enough trades, Shark Move!

    Hoot · 07/06/2016 at 14:54

    Unfortunately No DPP But….

    Ill be dropping Libba I think after the byes (at some point) as I believe he will not be worthy as top 12 MID. Then again, he may come strong. Even Parker has a few ? ? next to his name.

    Regarding FWD and DEF options, I need to fill 3-4 more Premo spots to fill. All after the byes I'd say.

      Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 15:01

      Depends on how many trades you have left Hoot, but if you've got less than 15 and still have 4 Premo spots to fill, I'd pass on Rocky!

poloko48 · 07/06/2016 at 12:58

What's everyone's thoughts on Zac Williams?
Toying with bringing him in as a premo upgrade, av 89.2 last 3 av 94.7, pretty consistent.
Current year scores from latest to start of season = 93 / 84 / 107 / 110 / 52 / 105 / 88 / 87 / 75 (missed R1 & 2)
Take the 52 out and he averages 93.6.
GWS only play 3 current top 8 sides for the rest of the year too.

    Tommo · 07/06/2016 at 16:54

    I have him and i am liking his consistent scoring and the fact he is such a good POD.

Daz · 07/06/2016 at 13:09

When you talk full premo sides, I assume it's your best team you can assemble without playing first year players. I have 12 trades left, 65k in the bank and need to upgrade M Adams and Kerridge to achieve this – team is

def- shaw, simpson, laird, mc veigh, suckling, m adams (brand, Collins)
mid- danger, pendles, ablett, parker, rockliff, zaha, liber, duncan (smith, menadue, trengrove)
ruc- gawn, nicnat (cox)
for- dusty, merret, hall, gunstan, wells, kerridge (petracca, AMT)

I think zaha's scores will improve as he plays teams now that don't tag so he should stay
My plan is to upgrade m adams , liber and Duncan through byes, kerridge after the byes burning 6 trades for the likes of Gibson/rance, steven,hanners and possibly zorko. Downgrades will likely be smith and AMT.

Is 6 trades too little for finals/injuries or shoukd I ride Duncan, liber and kerridge home.

What's everyone else doing.

    Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 13:46

    Hi Daz.
    Yes, when people refer to full Premo, they are generally referring to reaching a point where you have no rookies playing on field.
    If you have 6 trades from the start of finals ( Rd20), thats fine. But from what you're describing above and given you've only got $65K in the bank, I think you'll be down to 6 trades well before then when you also consider likely injuries.
    In your position, I'd look at upgrading Adams and Kedge during the byes. I then wouldn't worry about sideways trading Duncan or Libba until later in the season, if at all. I'd only do this if injuries are kind to you and you can insure you go into finals with 5 trades minumum.

      Daz · 08/06/2016 at 16:00

      Good advise, you're a …….well yourself

Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 13:10

Have already upgraded all my mids, except libba.

If I think rockliffe will average 120 for the rest of the season, it is okay to trade libba to rockliffe?

    Blueth · 07/06/2016 at 13:47

    Rocky isn't a MUST i don't think and Libba is in good form. Surely you have a DEF or FWD rookie that needs upgrading?

      Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 14:09

      True. Im certain rockliff will continue to score massive, but there will be heaps be of plump rookies to cash in after all other upgrades are completed, so i dont mind paying top dollar for him for my last upgrade. Ranked very highly and was just freaked of the thought of him pumping out consistent 150s. Holding trades until the byes is best anyway

        I N Pieman · 07/06/2016 at 14:26

        What are you ranked Jess?

          Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 14:59

          In top 100 pieman

            I N Pieman · 07/06/2016 at 15:10

            Jesus! Well done. You still ok for trades?

              Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 15:10

              15 and holding this week ☺, so not the best

                I N Pieman · 07/06/2016 at 15:53

                Many much worse than that Jess. How many more upgrades? I'll be going to 15 this week with Tipa DBJ & Kerridge left onfield.

                  Jess_coach · 07/06/2016 at 16:54

                  Adams (maybe), Tippa


                  Petracca, hall (maybe)

                  And screw it. Im going to be daring and trade libba to rocky. Will leave me with 14 trades, which is enough

                    I N Pieman · 07/06/2016 at 19:17

                    Hope it's enough. Personally I'd move tipa on first who's probably going to miss this week. Think you should replace the rooks first then come back to premos you don't like if you can. Carnage can be instant & trading premos can kill you

    I N Pieman · 07/06/2016 at 14:11

    That's tempting Jess. I traded Rocky to Libba earlier in the season & now I'm considering trading Rocky for Libba lol But I agree with Blueth finishing upgrading your other lines before going sideways on Premos

    Moustachio · 07/06/2016 at 16:50

    Consider bringing him in as a 9th mid (maybe you can loophole 2 mid scores depending on if all your mid rookies are playing).

    We have byes straight after this round, so if you have a position over-filled it doesn't matter. After R13 will be a great time to cull Libba, before his bye. That will restore your mid premo count to 8, or if there has been an injury you could keep Libba so that it's still 8.

    All assuming you have someone you want to ditch elsewhere on field (eg Hall and BenKen for mine).

Tim · 07/06/2016 at 14:03

Is Brodie Smith a keeper?

    marcus · 07/06/2016 at 14:10

    probably a D7 for me. Depends how many trades you have

Tom · 07/06/2016 at 14:05

Tippa to Suckling


JSmith to Rocky?

    Dave · 07/06/2016 at 14:30

    Both options are tempting, but Suckling isn't a D6, more of a D7 and Rockliff is a risk not worth taking considering Smith hasn't even finished increasing in price.

    Tippa > Suckling is almost sideways considering Tippas form too.

    If you are in a position where those are the only trades worth considering, then just hold onto them.

Chubby McChubby · 07/06/2016 at 14:09

If Dollhouse is going to drop further over the next few weeks who is another option for 520k and under.

I have – Dusty, Merret, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca, (Brown, Ben Ken)

I was going to upgrade BenKen to Dollhouse

    Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 14:16

    What does it matter if he's going to drop………….he's a keeper.

      Chubby McChubby · 07/06/2016 at 15:28

      More money to spend on someone else with the plan to get him in a couple of weeks at a discount price

        Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 15:52

        Fair enough.
        If you can wait a week, Montagna will be around $480K. In that event though, you may as well wait until Rd 14 as he has a bye in Rd13.

          Chubby McChubby · 07/06/2016 at 16:18

          Is Montagna a Top 6 defender?. Scores of 49 make me nervous.

            Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 16:30

            Take the 49 out and he's averaging around 102.
            Good enough for me, especially given he's got a BE of 157 and may even drop as low as $470K post his rd 13 bye.

            Moustachio · 07/06/2016 at 17:21

            A premo should not score around 50 unless injured. I would avoid until you see some really impressive turn-around in form.

    Derek · 07/06/2016 at 15:55

    Lids after his bye

      Chubby McChubby · 07/06/2016 at 16:19

      Anyone before Lids and Dollhouse Derek?

Jackwatt$ · 07/06/2016 at 14:17

Loving Collins as a cheap premium in the backline

Jizzo · 07/06/2016 at 14:24

Thoughts on J Mcveigh? Does he still have the scoring potential that he had in years gone by? If I get him my backline will be:
Shaw/Doc/Laird/Mcveigh/AMT/DBJ (Collins/Brand)

    Rocksta · 07/06/2016 at 14:53

    I reckon he looked like he was getting back to full fitness a couple of weeks ago. Remember he didnt get a preseason in and started late. I wouldn't take much notice of scores from the weekend at Metricon given the conditions.
    I reckon have another look at him this weekend and then decide. I'd expect him to average in the 90's for the rest of the season and thus a good D6.

Jareal · 07/06/2016 at 14:28

low on trades I spot left D6 have I got it covered with AMT COLLINS AND ADAMS LEE being my current D8 thx for all imput really appreciated by novice sc

Kev · 07/06/2016 at 15:00

I've stubbornly kept hold of JMcG, he's one of those CD love child who can do seemingly bugger all but get points for it. After two 60's and his late withdrawal last week, is it time to move him on?

    mark · 07/06/2016 at 16:36

    Have had JMCG since the start as well. He given one week of joy. Rd 5 134. His name will convert to Simpson after round 13

chris pepperall · 08/06/2016 at 11:33

Team as is with 14 trades left, $62 800 in bank
Def – Shaw, Doherty, simpson, bartel, laird, collins (brand, williams)

Mids – Danger, Parker, Treloar, Sloane, Ablett, rocky, Prddis, R.Gray (davis, keays, dunkley)

Rucs – Gawn, Nic Nat (Grimley)

Fwds – Zorko, Wells, Deledio, Merrett, Kerridge, Petracca. (Mcdonald Tippa, Cox)

Just traded libba for rocky is it the right move i dunno


John · 08/06/2016 at 13:54

Trade Mitch Brown for Collins, and then upgrade hall or Matthew wright to any forward I want. Who do you guys think I should trade out of those two?

    Russ · 09/06/2016 at 01:26

    Definitely Hall John, not playing in the middle anymore, Wright's been pretty solid this year.

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