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The Rookie Scout: Round 11

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Ryan Davis scored 90 SCPoints in Round 10… Ryan Davis scored 90 SCPoints which made him the highest scoring rookie last week.

Ryan Davis scored 90 SCPoints, which was higher than what Heath Shaw, Matthew Boyd, Kade Simpson, Callan Ward, Patrick Cripps, Marcus Bontempelli, Luke Parker, Jack Viney, Joel Selwood, Zach Merrett, Michael Barlow, Taylor Adams, Steven Motlop, Shane Mumford, Tom Liberatore, Ollie Wines, Toby Greene and Sam Jacobs could manage.

That’s the sort of week we were dealing with in Round 10, where a guy who had 2 scores in the 30’s in his previous 3 games played and was averaging 51 SCPoints become not only the highest scoring rookie, but outscored a host of heavily owned premium players.

We also had rookies who had been on quite a roll lately like Ben Kennedy, Sam Kerridge, Christian Petracca and Matthew Dea score poorly, while others like Marcus Adams and Darcy Byrne-Jones were a bit kinder and bounced back with some good scores. We also have the possibility of a few more debuts on the cards for 2016, with Aaron Francis from the Bombers, the #6 pick in this years draft looking close to playing his first AFL game, and with the suspension and injury to Jack Viney there is a good chance that Jack Trengove could soon play his first AFL game since Round 2 in 2014.

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CoachKings Round 11 Fixture


MIDFIELDERS

Callum Mills

SC Price: $318,300 | AF Price: $311,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,200
FEATURED COACHKINGS CONTEST: Saturday, Gold Coast VS Sydney
Round 10 Stats: 18 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 5 rebound 50’s, 69 SCPoints, 75 AFPoints, 83 CKPoints

Just the 4 contested possessions from Mills on the weekend saw his Supercoach output lowered a tad, but a score in the high 60’s is just about what we’d expect from Mills on a regular day. That was enough for him to gain $7.2K in Supercoach and his BE remains at a very achievable 47. It’s Round 12 that starts to present the problem where scores in the 60’s will see his BE push up to also be in the mid 60’s, low 70’s range. Sydney has the BYE in Round 14, so it’s a tough call for the 18.6% of Supercoachers that own him. As long as he hits near his year average of 68 he won’t bleed too much cash and that means you might be able to carry him until the bye round and trade him out then.

Christian Petracca

SC Price: $277,200 | AF Price: $335,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,200
Round 10 Stats: 14 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 2 inside 50’s, 51 SCPoints, 40 AFPoints, 43 CKPoints

Petracca, the 3rd most owned player in Supercoach, had one of his quieter games in his short career. It’s probably telling of his skill that 8 of his 14 disposals were involved in Melbourne kicking a goal however. His BE is 10, which will easily see him sail through the bye rounds and into the last 3rd of the season. Very good chance he’s one of the last blokes you upgrade in your side.

Jacob Hopper

SC Price: $247,000 | AF Price: $312,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,200
Round 10 Stats: 16 disposals, 3 marks, 1 goal, 3 inside 50’s, 57 SCPoints, 58 AFPoints, 67 CKPoints

Hopper has seen his ownership percentage climb to 25% in 2 weeks after his score of 106 against the Gold Coast and is now owned by 27.2% of all Supercoachers. It’s probably not a surprise he got his best score against the Gold Coast, as he got plenty of run in the middle against a depleted side. Since then he’s played the Western Bulldogs and Adelaide Crows and his scores have slowly declined. He’ll have another tough game against Geelong in Geelong to contend with this week. His BE is just 17 though, so he’ll still likely jump up another $20-$25K.

Darcy Parish

SC Price: $328,900 | AF Price: $349,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,300
Round 10 Stats: 25 disposals, 7 marks, 2 goals, 2 inside 50’s, 2 goals, 67 SCPoints, 93 AFPoints, 86 CKPoints

A disappointing result for Parish in Supercoach compared to AFL Fantasy, he had 25 disposals and a 50/50 split between kicks and handballs, a pair of goals, 7 marks and 7 goal involvements. His DE was just 60% and he also had 3 clangers and just 6 contested possessions, but I would have still hoped for a better score from him. He lost $900 and now has a BE of 80. For the 12.9% of teams that still have Parish I think now would be the time you look at moving him on.


FORWARDS

Sam Kerridge

SC Price: $387,800 | AF Price: $423,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,600
Round 10 Stats: 14 disposals, 1 mark, 7 tackles, 68 SCPoints, 65 AFPoints, 58 CKPoints

Still the most owned player in Supercoach, with 64.5% of all teams owning him (just edging out Patrick Dangerfield by 1.1%). The Blues had a great win on the weekend, but Kerridge didn’t fair nearly as well in fantasy football. His contribution was down possession wise with a season low 14 disposals, but did manage to contribute defensively, with 7 tackles and 22 pressure acts, which was 4th best for Carlton. The most popular trades this week with the Kedge involve downgrading him to Rhys Mathieson (11.2% of all Kerridge trades), while popular upgrade targets are Luke Dahlhaus, Robbie Gray, Dayne Zorko and Chad Wingard. His BE is 60 this week, but with another score in the 70’s this week it will pop up into the 90’s for Round 12. With a few guys with low BE’s this week you may look to move him on now.

Ben Kennedy

SC Price: $343,400 | AF Price: $346,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,400
Round 10 Stats: 7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 29 SCPoints, 29 AFPoints, 30 CKPoints

A solid 3 weeks of football all completely undone with an absolute stinkeroo against Port Adelaide, producing just 29 SCPoints. That poor score caused him to lose $11.4K and push his BE up to 96. Easiest plan for those 38.2% of Supercoachers who own him and Kerridge is to paint the fence with the pair of them. One down to someone like Mathieson, who 19.2% of all BenKen owners are trading him for and Kerridge up to a player with a nice price and low BE like Robbie Gray (502K) or Chad Wingard (415K). Both had MID/FWD eligibility, which opens up quite a few trade options.

Mitch McGovern

SC Price: $295,200 | AF Price: $287,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,600
FEATURED COACHKINGS CONTEST: Sunday, Adelaide VS St Kilda
Round 10 Stats: 11 disposals, 3 marks, 1 goal, 5 tackles, 3 inside 50’s, 65 SCPoints, 67 AFPoints, 89 CKPoints

He’s had a solid 3 weeks now, averaging 68 SCPoints after scores of 46 and 56 in Round 6 and 7. He gained $17.3K for the week and his BE of 39 is achievable. The Crows have their bye in Round 13 though, so it’s debatable if he’ll last to after the BYES, but if he has a really good game against the Saints this week it’s entirely possible that happens.


DEFENDERS

 

Matthew Dea

SC Price: $353,400 | AF Price: $347,000 | CoachKings Price: $7,600
Round 10 Stats: 88 CKPoints

Dea probably disappointed a few after a 3 week average of 97 SCPoints between Rd 7 and 9, but could only produce a score of 60 SCPoints against his old side in Richmond. Still, that was enough to add another $27.3K to his price tag and also keep his BE at an achievable level of 43. The issue currently is that once the big score of 126 comes out of his average he’s looking at his Round

Darcy Byrne-Jones

SC Price: $315,200 | AF Price: $295,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,600
FEATURED COACHKINGS CONTEST: Sunday, Collingwood VS Port Adelaide
Round 10 Stats: 23 disposals, 1 tackle, 1 goal, 4 inside 50’s, 88 SCPoints, 99 AFPoints, 99 CKPoints

The Round 10 AFL Rising Star nominee winner, DBJ was back to his best last week, with his 2nd highest disposal count and 3rd highest Supercoach score for the year. He lost $8K due to his poor score last week, but his BE has been pushed back down to 44 this week, so he’ll add that money back easily this week you’d think. He’s still owned by 23.5% of Supercoachers and with the Power having the Round 14 bye I reckon that would be the perfect time to look at upgrading him.

Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti

SC Price: $368,300 | AF Price: $339,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,400
Round 10 Stats: 14 disposals, 5 marks, 5 tackles, 82 SCPoints, 73 AFPoints, 87 CKPoints

Walla has continued his solid month of football; he’s now averaging 83 SCPoints over his last 4 games. That consistency has seen his BE drop to 43 for this week; though that will likely rise up to the 70’s next week should he hit his year average of 77 SCPoints. The Bombers have the bye in Round 14, so he’s another one like DBJ where he should last until then. Still in 49.9% of teams.


RUCKS

Mason Cox

SC Price: $264,600 | AF Price: $247,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,800
FEATURED COACHKINGS CONTEST: Sunday, Collingwood VS Port Adelaide
Round 10 Stats: 6 kicks, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 8 hitouts, 47 SCPoints, 40 AFPoints, 52 CKPoints

Has slowly been ticking away, but may face his first price loss of the year now that his BE is 49. Now a huge score by any stretch of the imagination, but he has scored under that amount before this year. The good thing at least is he is a RUC/FWD swing, so if you have him and Goldstein is out you might have some cover if your swings are available to you.


THE BEST OF THE REST…

Jacob Weitering – Weitering got back into the swing of things a bit more last week with 17 disposals and 8 marks, but only 59 SC Points. Surprisingly still owned by 22% of Supercoachers. BE is 68 this week, so another slightly drop in price is potentially there.

Dougal Howard – Only saw his ownership percentage jump from 0.5% to 3% after being named for Round 10, with a score of 70 SCPoints on the weekend he might see that percentage rise again, especially since he’s still at a decent price of $169K. His BE is -14, so as long as he’s selected again he should make another 30K+ on his price.

Josh Dunkley – Great game for Dunkley, who played Round 1 and 2 for scores of 61 and 33. He had 89 SCPoints and 115 AFPoints while taking 10 marks with 18 disposals, 5 tackles and 2 goals. Still only 167K, but JS must be considered also.

Sam Collins – Solid debut for Collins with 59 SCPoints. He had 12 disposal, 7 marks and 5 1%ers. Played 97% ToG as well which is a good sign. Should stick for a while yet, so JS should be solid enough to bring him in this week or next.

Mitch Brown – Last week was probably the ideal time to move Mitch Brown on. He scored 46 SCPoints on the weekend and dropped $13.1K as a result and is now below 300K. Luckily if you kept him his BE has dropped down to 51, and he does have a few good games against the likes of Carlton, Sydney and St Kilda to his name.

Peter Wright – Not much happening for Wright against the Eagles with just 43 SCPoints with 9 disposals, 2 marks and 4 hitouts. He’s an up and down player for sure, when he hits the scoreboard he can post a big fantasy football score.

George Hewett – Just re-signed with Sydney for 2 more years this week, so the Swans obviously have plans for him. He had a pretty good game against North for 63 SCPoints and has a BE of just 22 this week.

Josh Smith – Smith continues his pace of solid scoring with 22 disposals, 7 marks and 78 SCPoints on the weekend. He’s up to 288K now and his BE is just 22. The Pies have the Round 13 bye and if his current scoring base continues his BE will be in the 30-50 range until Round 16. Might be a solid option to keep as bye round cover and then upgrade him after.

Ben Crocker – Much better game for Crocker last week, if you compare it to his Round 9 score at least, with 11 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles and a goal for 52 SCPoints.

Liam Sumner – Went off early with an injury and only scored 2 SCPoints, which has blown his BE out to 83 this week. He wasn’t scoring all that great anyway, but the 4.7% of teams who own him will probably be PO’d.

Josh Wagner – Found plenty of the ball up in Alice with 31 disposals and 4 marks and scored 69 SCPoints. Dropped $3.1K though, but his BE is still achievable at 48 this week. Dees have the Round 14 bye, which I reckon is a very good time to think about up/downgrading him.

Ryan Davis –In a spectacular achievement that all the great poets of the world will soon write many songs about, Ryan Davis scored above 67 SCPoints for the first time. In fact, he’s posted his two highest scores of the year in the last two weeks with a 66 against Adelaide and now a score of 90 against the Eagles. His BE has gone all the way down to -19, but the issue now becomes, with so many GC players returning from injury, can Davis keep his spot?

Tom Ruggles – Was a late out against Carlton, so I think the Cats know where they stuffed up now.

Michael Hartley – Copped an injury which should keep him out, but it didn’t occur until the last quarter, so you can’t pin his 19 SCPoints on that. He just had an awful game is all. He lost $13.6K and his BE is 95. I’d consider moving him on for Collins if you want to do a like for like downgrade.

Ben Keays – Hasn’t blown the bloody doors off the place or anything, but has been solid enough. He had 49 SCPoints from 15 disposals last week, but his BE is now 39. Lions have the Round 15 bye, so he should keep until then as long as he doesn’t have an absolute stinker.

Rhys Mathieson – On the bubble, but has scores of just 59 and 53 to his name. There aren’t a ton of downgrade options out there though, so you gotta take what you can get sometimes. Job security should be solid.

Wayne Milera – Bobs up every now and then with some terrific play, but still struggles to get heavily involved. He scored just 34 SCPoints against the Giants, but his BE is only 27 this week. For the 8.4% of teams that still have him, I may consider moving him out for the bye rounds.

Jonathan Freeman – He’s played his 3 games and has lost cash already, thanks to his elevated starting price. Scored just 33 and his BE is 36, which he has scored under in 2 of his 3 games. Not worth it.

Keegan Brooksby – Has been building slowly, with improved scores in his last 3 games. Had 68 SCPoints last week, which is probably a decent result considering he was taking on Nic Nat and Scott Lycett of the Eagles.

Jackson Paine – On the bubble this week, with a BE of -15. Has scores of just 45 and 47 to his name. Never been the biggest fan of his.

Daniel Rioli – Usual sort of score from Rioli, producing 36 SCPoints.

Josh Schache – Has his 2nd highest score of the year with 67 SCPoints, but still lost $9.3K.

Oscar McDonald – That was McDonalds 3rd game for the year and it was his best one yet, producing 68 SCPoints. His BE is -16, but you probably wouldn’t bother to pick him up this week with Sam Collins sitting there.

Jade Gresham – Season high of 70 SCPoints from Gresham, which has pushed his BE back down to 15, which is good news for the 13.5% of teams that still own Gresham.

Trent West – Back to the usual type scores from West, producing just 24 SCPoints. BE is still only 22 thanks to the big score he had in Round 9.

Daniel Gorringe – The man whose name proves there’s a word that rhymes with orange, he had a 74 SCPoints, which was his highest score since 2014. May come into play for those who want cover for Goldstein if he misses this week.

Jayden Hunt – 58 SCPoints for Hunt, who has played every game since Round 4. Hasn’t put up any decent scores really apart from his 102 against the Gold Coast.

Brodie Murdoch – Scored 58 in his first game of the year, but has an elevated price tag of $217K

Billie Smedts – Smedts played his 1st game of the year after some solid VFL form for a score of 57 SCPoints. He’s DEF eligible, but comes in at $190K; so again, Collins will look like the better option.

Harry Marsh – A DEF eligible Swan with a starting price of $117K. Scored 51 upon debut, but job security would be a slight concern.

Thomas Cole – First game for Cole, who was a 2nd round pick in the 2015 Draft. He scored 49 SCPoints from 14 disposals. Another like Marsh who may have job security issues.

MacKenzie Willis – A 3rd round pick from the 2015 draft, he has scores of 32 and 33 from two games this year. Familiar theme, job security is a concern with the Suns injured players returning.


AROUND THE GROUNDS…

There was minimal action in the seconds in South Australia and Victoria due to the SANFL VS VFL match at Adelaide Oval on Sunday with only Richmond VS Essendon taking place in the VFL and no matches taking place in the SANFL, so this will be shorter than usual this week.

 

Aaron Francis – There is talk that he could debut this week after his performance against Richmond, with Francis grabbing 22 disposals, 11 marks, 2 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s in the Bombers 33 point win. He had 9 intercept marks in that tally, he was known as an intercept player as a junior and had been compared to Brendon Goddard because of it.

Jason Costagna – Probably won’t be back in the side with Richmond’s current form, but he had 23 disposals, 7 marks, 3 tackles, 5 inside 50’s and 3 rebound 50’s.

Jayden Short – Just the 17 disposals for Short, who also had 4 marks and 2 tackles.

Michael Apeness – Probably his best game since his return from injury, kicking 2.2 while also contributing 11 touches, 7 marks, 4 tackles and 11 hitouts.

Darcy Tucker – Tucker led the game in possessions with 29, including 22 kicks as well as 8 marks, 3 tackles and 10 inside 50’s as the Peel Thunder defeated East Fremantle 78 to 52.

Aliir Aliir – Good game for Aliir with 22 possessions and 11 marks as Sydney defeated Sydney Uni by 59 points in the NEAFL.

Harrison Himmelberg- There might have been a bit more ball to go around for the UWS Giants with Adam Tomlinson, Jake Barrett and Jacob Hopper missing this week. Himmelberg had 20 disposals, 4 marks, 5 inside 50’s and 3 rebound 50’s as the Giants lost to Aspley by 30 points.

Matthew Kennedy – Another GWS Giant 1st round pick not playing, Kennedy had 24 disposals, 5 marks and 6 tackles.

Jared Jansen – A bit of a break out game for Jansen with 29 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 3 hitouts and 7 inside 50’s. He’s averaging just 18 disposals for the year in the NEAFL, so it’s good to see him step up with Mathieson and Keys in the main side.

Eric Hipwood – A 4 goal haul for Hipwood, along with 15 disposals and 5 marks as the Lions smashed the GC Suns reserves by 112 points

Cameron Loersch – There weren’t many AFL listed players running around for the Suns ressies, with Loersch one of the few, leading the way with 2 goals, 14 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles and 6 hitouts.

 

And that’s it for the Rookie Scout Report this week. So are any of you culling some rookies this week? And will you be looking at upgrades to premo picks or downgrading to new rookies? Let us know in the comments below, or hit us up on Twitter @BarronVonCrow

 


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james

i have Benken, DeGoey, Kerridge, Petracca, Byrne and AMT in which 2 should i wanting to get rid of first

@BarronVonCrow

Reckon BenKen is first, could maybe the. consider a Byrne to Collins trade next week?

judd0

Definitely Ben Kennedy first priority this week.
Then possibly Byrne if he is not named again this week. Although he still has cash to make he won't make it not playing and has appreciated enough money to justify trading him.
I would try to keep DeGoey until you're full premo making him a final upgrade target.
Petracca not ready yet and AMT is being more than serviceable down back and I'm keeping him out of respect to how he plays the game.
Kerridge won't make much more cash so you could trade him if you'd rather than trade byrne it depends whether you want a FWS or DEF upgrade/downgrade.
Look to get Mathieson for Ben Ken and then upgrade Kerridge or Byrne to the best DEF/FWD you don't have.

Southern S

Ben Ken and De Goey. De Goey has hit an all time high value of 408k now with a 53 last week and a 105 BE this is probably the time to move him on, his scoring is up and down and I feel keeping on the field at this time of the year is going to cost you. Has the round 13 bye.

Ben

Is it worth trading out libba now if he has a fairly high BE? Yes or no? Would get him for Robbie Gray

Fozdaddy

You want him to be last upgrade. Still able to pump out 120+s

judd0

Surely you have bigger priorities than trading out someone averaging 95. He won't lose much cash, probably less than 10k.
Paint the fence with rookies this week their are good downgrade options on all lines.

Derek

well done Barron, love your work

@BarronVonCrow

Cheers mate!

Southern S

As usual very informative and saves trawling through stats ourselves, cheers for all the work!

Marcus

Need to upgrade kennedy to a premium under 600k with a round 15 bye in the midfield. I have danger hanners parker wines libba and ward. Got 17 trades and i might downgrade brown so i have more money and i can get lachie neale?

@BarronVonCrow

Could look at Callan Ward too? Cheaper at 544K and has a BE of 131 this week, so should go down again.

Marcus

Ward is in my midfield already i think you missed it

Rob

Neale seems to be getting the job done pretty consistently

David T

Don't think we can afford to be spending 600k+ on our upgrades if we want to reach full premo anytime soon. Maybe J. Lewis, S. Mitchell, J. Selwood, Rockliff, Ziebell?

Lucky

My team:

Bob Murphy, JJ, Houli, Yarran, Dawson (C), Saad, (Pearce, Joyce)

Fyfe, Beams, Swan, Bennell, Adams (VC), Swallow, White, O'Meara (Jacobs, Boekhorst, Simpkin)

Sandi, Minson (Pittonet)

Roughie, Higgins, Elliott, Schulz, Fasolo, Cloke, (Clark, Papley)

14 trades and $8k in the bank.

I've had a tough year for injuries, Any suggestions? Was thinking of trading Cloke out this week, but for who?

Fozdaddy

Darcy Moore easy

judd0

I think you should do some side ways trading this week Lucky to sure up your backline:

– Saad to Nick Maxwell

– Yarran to Matty Spangher

Definitely keep Cloke I know he was caught flaccid with his pants down recently but he will have to stand to attention shortly.

breakevens

Liking to Yarran to Maxwell
The Saad to Maxwell trade is impossible due to the fact he retired two years ago

The Gawnstein

ah, yes cheese

Luke

I'd look to bring in Richard Tambling or Cale Morton

Dice

Johannison is back soon so maybe look at Jake Carlisle

Harry

Can't believe you haven't found spots for Heppell and Watson in the midfield

breakevens

Team looks strong where are you ranked?
Jesse White's JS looking good Cloke to White looks like a solid trade

Derek

Michael Tuck might come out of retirement to stay ahead of Boomer, he would be a cheap downgrade

breakevens

217k in the bank with 17 trades
Who should I be looking to upgrade first
Kerridge, Adams, AMT or Smith

Liks

Probably Kerridge mate, but I think he might have a day out against Brisbane

Nathan

Out of those 3 it should be kerridge
But if you dont need to trade id hold

Southern S

Kerridge only has a 60 BE hold, could ton up against Brisbane and Saints.

Cheers

I would greatly appreciate if someone could tell me if I'm on track to a premo side…also I have 300k in the kitty with 15 trades left, should I slow down on the trades ?

DEF:Shaw,Rance,Laird,Simpson,Birchall,AMT
(M.Brown WC)(Collins)
MID:Pendles,Hanners,Danger,Ablett,Priddis
Libba,Smith,Keays(Davis,Dunks,Dmac)
RUC:Goldy,NicNat(Loerch)
FOR:Martin,Montagna,Greene,Hall,Wells
Kerridge(Prtracca,Menadue)

Nathan

Id hold atm
You have rookies that are still gonna make money
But if you could id get at least one more mid

Tofor

Great article.
Trying to hold trades. 18 left.
De goey to Wingard is very tempting.
Thoughts all?

Southern S

Don't mind it. Was close to doing it myself but changed plans and trading De Goey for Gray via DPP.

Troy

If only Doogie Howser was a FWD/RUC…he'd be a handy cover if Goldstein misses. Really don't understand why is isn't considering he is, you know, a ruckman/forward!

Ryan

Is BenKen to Mathieson/Dunkley a good trade? Or hold?

james

team is

Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Enright, AMT, Byrne (Ruggles, Collins)

Danger, Hanners, Ablett, Ward, Shiel, Priddis, Zieball, Lewis (Hewett, Davis, Gresham)

Gawn, NicNat (Lorensch)

Dusty, Hall, Boomer, DeGoey, Kerridge, Petracca (Benken,, Wyatt)

got 8k in the bank what trades should i make

Nathan

Id go Hewett to Mathieson
Then benken up to premo

Greg

Play Hopper or Josh Smith on field??

Wattsieesq

Smith for mine. Hopper playing Geelong in Geelong will be tougher than playing port at the G.

Wayno76

I'm putting Smith on on the field and Hopper as Emergency, if Hopper scores big I'll swap Smith for a player not playing, if his score is low I'll just leave Smith out there that way you get 2 bites.

Nick

Hi community,
Would like to know what everyone's thoughts on would you fill your midfielde or defence first??? Currently my fwd line is full and have 2 more spots in my mid and def
I am looking at upgrading Ruggles and Dea to Collins(Fremantle) to McVeigh
Or
Ruggles and Smith (pies) to a midfielder priced at 560kish ( Gray, Mitchell)

Nathan

If youre going league wins id hold and wait till byes to trade rookies out but if youre going rank then id sort ya midfield out

LJB

Definitely keep smith, defence rookies on the field score much closer to premo defenders compares to midfield rookies and premo rookies so you'd be gaining the most points by upgrading a rookie midfielder to a premo than a defender rookie to premo rookie first

Nick

Thanks

Shake n bake

Trengove to play was hoping it would be rd 12 so I could pick him up after there bye! If he plays from here on he's price will go up after rd 13 doesn't suit.

Nathan

Unsure what to do
If i trade kerridge out ill be left with 585k
So i can bring in any mid from jpk down but most likely gray
Or any fwd
But with 2 mid spots left is gray top 8 mid from here? First 5 games you say yes but port has a tuffer draw compared to the start of the year
Or should i bring in pendles and hanners who im yet to get?
Or get zorko with which finishes my fwd line?

Derek

i had RGray at about top 10-12 midfielders at the start of the year. With Fyfe and Beams gone, he slips into the top 10.

I'm the same, looking to fill my last two midfield places. Have one reserved for Hanners and the last place is between selwood, RGray & Sloane.

If i choose RGray i have this week (maybe next) to get him, or Selwood in a week or two. just dunno?

Nathan

I already have selwood
I started with him
Frustrating atm but he does it every year so i know he'll be back to his best soon

Ive gone through my team for what i want afer byes
And i wont be able to get pendles and hanners so ill need to go gray and one of them after there bye

Leeds17

Libba included?

CJudd3Votes

Is bringing in Howe at this stage chasing points or does he look like maintaining a strong average?

CJudd3Votes

backline in particular

Moustachio

Opposing teams will realise the key role he has been playing and give him more attention now. I think his average will drop down. If you think he will average 95 he is priced okay, if you think he will average 100+ then jump on.

JamiesNinjas13

Some collingwood people might be able to help you out more, but I think he is just filling a spot in defense due to the injuries to the collingwood defense. When they all come back, he might be shifted to the fwd as promised.

Derek

sounds like "the boy who smoked Choof"

james

520k to get in a FWD who is my best option

buddy
merret
tippert
lycett
gunston
howe

ToneStar

Buddy

Southern S

Buddy, Merrett, Gunston, Lycett, Howe, Tippett

I just don't trust Howe but he could be a good trade in.

Lycett ahead of Tippett due to averaging the same and being 50k less.

Tommo09

Def: Shaw, Adams, Docherty, Tippa, DBJ, Brown (Laird, Byrne)
Mid: Danger, GAJ, Parker, Pendles, Hannebery, Libba, Priddis, Hopper (Keays, Smith, McPherson)
Ruc: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
Fwd: Martin, Franklin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Kennedy, Petracca)

Thinking Kennedy and MacPherson for Wingard and Collins
Thoughts??
After those trades I will have $340k and 15 trades left

Nathan

Id just hold Macpherson as hes out hes not losing cash
And trade brown to a defensive premo and bring collins in next week

derek

but he isn't making cash either

Tommo09

Next week I will hopefully have 13 trades and 3 rookies on field

This is bad isn't it??

Moustachio

I have 13 left after this week, with Kerridge and Adams still on field. I think you're doing okay if your bye structure will let you get away with not too many trades.

Boltons blues

I'll have 14 with only AMT, Byrne and Kerridge left on my field

Tommo09

I have revised my trades and now it's 14 and 3-4

Cpt Pugwash

How many players (on field) are you starting the bye rounds with?

MY TWO CENTS

Same as every week 22.
Whether they play or not well that's a different story.

Derek

at this stage i'm looking at only 18 or 19 in first week of byes, taking a risk. Then trading in Lids & rance after their bye and playing at least 22 for the other bye rounds. It is like having 4 free loopholes each round

ToneStar

I'm at 18,19 and 20 for the byes….

MY TWO CENTS

Barron good thing u went with gorringe rhymes with orange and not the bloke below him.
Jayden Hunt rhymes with ….

Matt

Hi community, should I go Hartley to Collins or Smith (pies) to mathieson? Need to do one of these trades to upgrade Ben ken. Don't have any usable dpps

The Mountain

To early for smith to go

Matt

So I should just pass on mathieson?

Cliffy

Ok so I have these combos of trades in mind (will be 'painting the fence' this week going 1 upgrade, 1 downgrade in trades):

Option 1:
BenKen – S.Collins (1 week early on Collins, via Tippa DPP)
M.Brown/Hartley – Zorko

I'll still keep my DEF/FWD swing, and have $30,800 left over.

Option 2:
BenKen – Mathieson (via Petracca DPP)
M.Brown/Hartley – Gibson

I'll lose my MID/FWD swing, and have $134,700 left over.

My team as it currently stands:

DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Tippa, "M.Brown" (DBJ, "Hartley")

MID: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Pendlebury, Ward, GAJ, Liberatore, Wines, J.Smith (DMac, Davis, Petracca)

RUCK: Gawn, Martin (Wyatt)

FWD: Martin, Hall, Kerridge, Wells, Barlow, Adams (BenKen, Menadue)

judd0

Hey Cliffy, I've done your option 2 and also lost my FWD/MID swing which does suck.
However I already have a full premo FWD line (sort of) so I didn't really have the option of bringing in another FWD.
I still think you're option 2 is better as that way you're getting M Brown off the field who is a usually a terrible scorer replacing him with Gibson which should net you around 40 points a week. Although bringing Zorko in replacing Adams on field will also net you around 40 points a week I would much prefer to have Adams on field over Brown.

Cliffy

*Gibson/Boyd/Laird (if I'm feeling risky going Laird, that's if he's named)

Cliffy

and meant *Zorko/Dahlhaus/Montagna

Chubby McChubby

Are we all pulling the trigger on BenKen? One bad game. A lot of people went early on DBJ and looked what happenned. Im glad I didn't follow the sheep with DBJ. I have BenKen in fwd, Hartley in back and macpherson in mid. All the rest of my rookies have good break evens and should make money so holding off on upgrades just yet.Options are Hartley to Collins but that'd be going one week early and Hartley wont decrease. Option 2 Benken to Paine but he wont make much coin and think benken will bounce back. Option 3 macpherson to mathieson but is it a waste of trade. Im not going for overall and sitting well within the league with 18 trades left and 13k in bank.

Derek

McPherson to maitherson looks a great trade. Get rid of someone who won't make any cash to someone who will make you a heap of cash. what is there not to like? the idea of the game is to make enough cash to reach full premium. if you have dud bench warmers, this won't happen

Neverweaken

I pulled the trigger last week on BenKen. My other cows are around the 300k and I needed an extra 40k to bring in JKennedy and Priddis. Depends who you trade him out for. A rookie who will make cash or a premo at a cheap price.

Wattsieesq

Great work Barron. Your rookie report is the highlight of my SC week.

@BarronVonCrow

Thanks Wattsueesq!

Neverweaken

Do I just wear the donut in the ruck with Goldie. Currie is my third and is injured. But with BE of -47 will make a lot of cash if he plays again. NicNat is my other ruck and have Tippet in the forward line. Do I trade out Currie, swing Tippet over and bring in a forward. Trade out Goldie swing Tippett over and bring in a premo fwd. Or swap Goldie to Gawn
Or do nothing and wear it. Gut says do nothing.

Neverweaken

Actually starting to think of swap to Gawn and putting VC on him. Depends on whether Goldie is out for only a week

A.J

Ben Kennedy dropped. I would say that's a pretty good reason to trade him out now, incase you had any doubts

Steeeve

I'd say it's a good reason to hold him. Won't bleed cash and some half decent options might be on the bubble next week, unlike this week.

Blueth

No Mathieson, so much for that trade :(. Bailey Williams is contention, tasty DPP with Bartel

Tom

tucker or mathisen?

Southern S

Mathieson is out.

Tucker's JS isn't great.

Dice

Lock in Tucker on your bench for the rest of the year

Fevolution25

Goldy is playingggggg!!!

Pom

Goldy In!!

Blake

BenKen -> B.Smith via DPP

Yes or No?

Southern S

Yes, but don't expect a premo in Smith. He's good value at the current price though.

The Ranger

Mathieson omitted. Groan.

Southern S

That really sucks for people who went early on him.

Southern S

I'm playing AMT ahead of Petracca on field. If I'd said that before the season had started I'd have been called all sorts of things!

Cameron

Probably with good reason!

Pom

So pretty much just D. Tucker on the bubble this week. Breakeven -41, but he is Ross Lyons to destroy.
J. Paine for Lions named FB, breakeven of -15, but lions are awful. T West also named but BE is 22.
B. Williams on extended doggies bench and looking unlikely to get selected with who else is named there with him.

Anyone I missed? Is tucker a massive gamble or does he have decent job security?

Southern S

gamble, and with Ibbotson only out for 4 might not be worth the trouble.

Boltons blues

If you're picking a freo defender , go Collins.
JS is higher then tucker, he's a key position defender which freo need, older then your average rookie, 22 years old his body is ready for afl I think

Southern S

Great points.

Tommo09

I was going Kennedy and MacPherson to Collins and Mathieson
Then the Lions dropped Mathieson

Now what did I do
I am worried about my Collins trade too

Team is this
Def: Shaw, Adams, Docherty, Tippa, DBJ, Brown (Laird, Byrne)
Mid: Danger, GAJ, Parker, Pendles, Hannebery, Libba, Priddis, Hopper (Keays, Smith, McPherson)
Ruc: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
Fwd: Martin, Franklin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Kennedy, Petracca)

Tommo09

*do

Southern S

I'd be elss worried about the Collins trade than Tucker because he came in for Alex Pearce that is out for the season.

Southern S

less*

Tommo09

I might only go Kennedy to Collins and save a trade

Southern S

Could do that trade next week instead and wait for the collins bubble?

Tommo09

I could, couldn't I
What other trades should I do then?

Southern S

Maybe none?

Your lines look pretty strong especially with Laird back.

Tommo09

Thanks

Steve

How the hell are people doing the keendy to collins trade? I just can't see it

Hawks

Moving Tipa or Brown forward

Tommo09

Logan Austin named on extended bench
He played for my club so hope he gets a game

Southern S

He's named at full back Tommo!

Tommo09

Oh ok that's awesome

Southern S

Shhhhhh I need 40% of SC players munching a big ol' donut in the ruck for me to advance my position 🙂

farmerwantsafyfe

Is it a must to get mathieson this week??
im sitting around 300th but am struggling to find a way to get him in!
i can do it but would lose my forward/mid swap at the same time

Southern S

He's a must have if you must have a donut!

He's been omitted mate he can wait, or never come in at all.

Leeds17

Mathieson's been dropped.

Joely

His been omitted

farmerwantsafyfe

Thanks guys my bad poor form by me just checked then! would anyone jump the gun early of jack trengrove and bring him in??

Southern S

Jumping the gun on some of these rookies has backfired although it is Jack Trengove so I'd be inclined to say he'll stay in the team.

Kev

Always a risk bringing in rookies that aren't on the bubble. Been heavily managed so far so I wouldn't be surprised to see him rested

Southern S

Yep it's risky, hasn't been going huge since coming back either.

Cameron

downgrades options are sh*t in Def and fwd! Gotta take a chance on someone who isn't bubble boy or you will lose cash on the ones who need to be cashed out. Its a gamble.

David

If named in the final side, are Tom Lee or Bailey Willams worth getting as downgrade targets for like likes of Hartley/DBJ? Obviously JS is the issue here, but lack of future rookies is not promising.

Southern S

Nope, too risky.

Kev

Put Hartley on the pine if you can. Don't trade dbj yet, b.e is 44

breakevens

Collins looks like a better option with Williams and Lee with close to 0 JS

@BarronVonCrow

My guess would be that Lee would only get a game this week because of Taylor Walker, Josh Jenkins, Mitch McGovern and Tom Lynch all being 190cm+

chris

collins or tucker this week as downgrades?

Southern S

Collins not on bubble but I feel has better JS.

farmerwantsafyfe

cheers mate i think so too

azza

tucker will probably fill in for the time that ibbotson is out im assuming, so 4weeks?
would that be enough time to generate 100k?

breakevens

Collins for me

Cameron

Collins I bought him in last week! Took a gamble and think it will payoff? (I Hope)

Cameron

As all my players are playing except for Brand (Hawthorn plays early Saturday and only have Wells from Friday nights game), I'm considering going Cox down to a rookie ruck to use as a captains loophole. What to people think about this as there is no decent rookies on the bubbles?

Kev

Waste of a trade imo. You'll need Cox for the byes.

bailey

back up ruckman is very valuable

Bailey

Lee, Williams, Tucker, Joyce, cole, Marsh?? who has the best JS (already have Collins)

breakevens

Probably Tucker but none have really any JS

Danners

Tucker, I'm worried that Joyce might join the dead men walking

Cameron

Dont think Joyce JS is good? Unless he comes out and hits 80's or 90's?

jack

deledio or gray, leaning towards gray for the value/potential side of things but lids is pretty much guaranteed top 6 forward while gray maybe not? thoughts much appreciated

Southern S

I'm probably going to get both in, Gray first as he has a low BE (78), Deledio during the byes (125 BE this week)

Tony

Double down this week via dpp. Menapoo and Benken out Collins and Tucker in. 480k in bank for the byes.

What do you reckon community ?

Cheers,
Tony

Southern S

It's pretty risky, if for some reason both are dumped you could be in trouble with no bench.

I wouldn't get Collins till next week to be certain he's in, shouldn't impact your plan too much.

Boltons blues

Tucker has poor JS, but I'd rather his 0 then having menadue in your team
Was the best week ever 2 weeks ago when I traded him out

Don't Blush Baby'

I'm going Bang,Bang
Hartley out,in McVeigh
BenKen out,in Wingard

breakevens

Not 100% sure with how to use the captain's loophole, will this work?

Dustin (vc)
Ruck: Nic Nat, Grimley (Gawn)

Thanks community

Southern S

Yep and put the C on Grimley to keep Dustin's score.

Boltons blues

Surely Dunkley can't get dropped after last weeks performance?

Southern S

No way, surely not.

Boltons blues

He's on the extended bench, always gets me worried, need good cash generation on the bench for some upgrades post byes