RD10: The Heroes. The Villains. The Damned.

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Our fearless leader Jock Reynolds gave a speech for the ages last week. When he spoke, our rookies listened. Unfortunately, the rest of the competition failed to heed his prophecy this round.

Round 10 was yet another round of mediocrity. So many of our premos failed to perform. But where there is despair, there is faith.

I present to you, Community, an oracle of hope. I gave birth to a son last week, and already he has demonstrated a freakish ability to see into the SuperCoach future. I simply said to the young man, “who should I make captain this week?” Todd Goldstein? Max Gawn? Heath Shaw? Patrick Dangerfield?

Without hesitation, the little guru signalled towards Max Gawn. The young man was on the money.

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The Heroes

Tom Mitchell (178 SC)

Could easily be in the The Redeemers column, considering he has been ordinary the past month. But, boy, didn’t he play a ripper game on Friday night, showing why his owners selected him in the first place. The bloke is an absolute ball magnet when allowed to hunt the pill and not tag. Disposal is questionable at times, but that was not evident at all against the Roos. Bloody savaged them on his way to 41 touches.

Max Gawn (167 SC)

Like Mitchell, he could feature as a Redeemer, but his score is simply too big not to class him as a hero. My brother (a Melbourne supporter) believes he has discovered the key to Big Max’s meteoric rise this season, via some inside information. “He’s gone from smoking three packs of durries a week to only one pack a week,” he revealed to me. Indeed, the combination of the power of the beard mixed with a restricted amount of ciggies a week seems to be the recipe for success for the big man. Many had the balls to put the C on him, and they were rewarded handsomely.

Gary Ablett (143 SC)

The son of God is back. Bald Jesus looked like the little master of old as he tackled and efficiently disposed of the pigskin on the way to arguably his best performance of the season. The shoulder and concussion problems appeared to have vanished by some sort of miracle. To his owners, Gazza’s majestic handling of the football was like manner falling from heaven.

Honourable mentions:
Josh P Kennedy (161 SC), David Armitage (149 SC), Jordan Lewis (141 SC), Bryce Gibbs (140 SC), Jack Steven (138 SC), BJ Goddard (130 SC), Daniel Hannebery (126 SC), Bryce Gibbs (140 SC), Josh Kelly (132 SC), Patrick Dangerfield (127 SC), David Zaharakis (122 SC), Sam Docherty (121 SC), Luke Dahlhaus (119 SC), Dylan Shiel (118 SC) Lachie Neale (118 SC).


The Villains

Heath Shaw (81 SC) Many put the C on him thinking he would be able to magically replicate the double ton from last week. But in the words of the mathematical genius Peter J Higginbotham, “don’t go chasing points”. Like Danger the week before, wasn’t disgraceful, but was a bloody let down to those who made him captain. Callan Ward (72 SC) A rare blemish from the man who looks like an amazon warrior. Many in the past have gazed at Callan’s splendid physic, but the Crows appeared to have developed a crafty game plan that didn’t involve admiring the almost-perfect specimen. I wouldn’t be worrying too much if I was a Ward owner and I still believe he will be a top eight midfielder comes season’s end. Luke Parker (67 SC) His yo-yo form continues. Seems to thrive on going from hero to zero and then vice versa. His strengths are inside grunt work and drifting forward to kick goals. But, a runner he is not. In fact, he bloody looks pigeon-toed sometimes. It’s a real concern, Community. Sometimes he actually looks like he is struggling to cover the ground.

Honourable mentions:
Joel Selwood (82 SC), Aaron Hall (68 SC), Sam Kerridge (68 SC), Zach Merrett (74 SC), Jack Viney (65 SC).

The Redeemers

Chad Wingard (136 SC)

It appears as though he has got his mojo back. No doubt about it, the Chad is an absolute freak when he is up and about. I offended a Hawthorn supporter once by saying I thought he was a better player than Cyril when both players are in top form. The enigma that is Chad looks to be starting to get on a roll and seems to be a fair investment at a cheap price, provided he can keep current form up.

Jeremy Howe (125 SC)

It’s time to sit up and start taking notice of this man. Once known only for his ability to take the odd hanger, it appears Nathan Buckley is turning Jezza into a player of substance. It’s all very hard to believe, I know. The combination of Buckley being a good coach and Howe turning into a SC player we care about is hard to fathom.

Darcy Byrne-Jones (88 SC)

Was down and out for the count – had a high break even and traded out by thousands of sides. But make no mistake, this little dynamo is an absolute trooper. An old school footballer, the young man is as tough as nails and his tenacity is a pleasure to watch. Kudos to those who held him, as he will prove a valuable asset playing him on the field for weeks to come. A potential defence bench keeper.

Honourable mentions:
Brodie Smith (108 SC), Ryan Davis (90 SC), Michael Barlow (85 SC), Matt Suckling (96 SC).

The Prodigies

Anthony McDonald-Tippa (82 SC)

Epitomises the Essendon spirit. They might not be the best team but they have a fair dinkum crack. They put in 100 per cent. They show some effort. And you have to admire them for that. Tippa is a prime example. Despite not leading the AFL in the talent department, he goes in every week and has a red hot dip. It’s all very heartening to watch.

Christian Petracca (51 SC)

Talked him up significantly last week, but the young bull let us down. Overwhelmed by a physical Port Adelaide and the intense heat of Alice Springs, Petracca just wasn’t up to the task on the day. I believe he will bounce back, however.

Jacob Hopper (57 SC)

The buzz bubble kid of the last round was not quite at his best against the Crows. Still made 50-odd grand in his first price rise and has plenty more cash to generate. Job security is good and is playing in the middle, even if he does butcher the ball from time to time. A wise selection and I wouldn’t be surprised to see another couple of strong games from him in the future.

Honourable mentions:
Josh Dunkley (89 SC), Josh Smith (78 SC), Darcy Parish (67 SC), George Hewett (63 SC), Rhys Mathieson (53 SC), Ben Crocker (52 SC), Mason Cox (47 SC), Ben Keays (49 SC)

The Damned

Ollie “Let down” Wines (62 SC)

Just hasn’t been himself in 2016. As far as previous form goes, there has arguably been no bigger let down this season than Oliver Wines. Where has that contested-possession beast with the glistening quads gone? Looks a shadow of his former self. Was picked by many with the potential to be an ultra premo keeper. Sadly, those that have him must now look at upgrade options.

Jarrad “Overrated” Waite (56 SC)

Those of you that selected this man due to this blistering early season form – take a good hard look at yourselves. As a key forward, he was never going to be able to sustain those numbers. Many North Melbourne supporters criticized this column when it was rightly suggested that selecting Waite would be a trap. “His statistics show he is almost the best player in the AFL at the moment,” they said to me. Absolutely laughable. Was never going to be a top six forward.

Ben “Gone” Kennedy (29 SC)

Going, going…gone. For those that still have him, myself included, it will be an unbelievably satisfying rage trade. Played a full game, not listed as injured, so it defies belief how he could be so ordinary. Had been serviceable up until this performance. Has to go now. Will leak some serious cash after this so almost a must-trade.

Honourable mentions:
Sam Jacobs (73 SC), Shannon Hurn (60 SC), Jacob Weitering (59 SC), Paul Seedsman (55 SC), Mark Blicavs (53 SC), Jordan De Goey (51 SC), Mitchell Brown (46 SC), Jack Steele (28 SC), Michael Hartley (19 SC), Marc Murphy (12 SC).

Over to you Community, who were your Heroes and Villains from this round?

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What's Harry Marsh's JS look like?
Looking to go Ruggles down to Marsh


Job Security would be close to 0.

You would think Teddy is back next week and Marsh will go out of the side. Would only return through injury or resting Grudy/Teddy. Look to pick him up next year when he starts to take over from Richards full time.


Teddy out for the next two minimum so JS looking better


Didn't know that. Sam Reid will be back however and I would think takes Marsh's spot.


Very low, not many Sydney rookies have played more than 2 games and there have been a few of them

Southern S

Mills? Hewett? Papley?

Sydney get lost of games into their rookies compared to other teams.

Southern S



I was thinking of Hiscox, Aliir.


You'd probably be better off going Bailey Williams if you're taking a punt on someone unlikely to immediately burst his bubble.


Tucker likely to come in for freo this week


Need to get rid of Wines as he has been terrible this season especially since Gray's been back. Got 18 trades and 102k in the bank.

Thinking of Ben Kennedy to Mathieson and Wines to Gray

This will leave me with 16 trades and 293.4k left with 4 more upgrades needed.


If you burn any more trades, you will be stuffed. Don't do it maaaate!


It's either Wines to Gray or Hannebery or Menadue to Dahlhaus?


If you can do Menadue to Dahlhaus then that's a no brainer.

Wines is still averaging 90. Hold until you're full 'premo' then if you still want to flick him grab whichever gun mid has fallen by that stage. There will be someone. Was Priddis last week. Gray this week. Parker will be super cheap soon. And there will be others later on.


What about Wines for abblett this week?


who are your other 4 upgrades left?


One defender, 1 midfielder and 2 forwards


Wines should be the last of your worries at the moment


is it worth downgrading gresham to mathisen

Southern S

Gresham just got his best score of the year. Might finally make some money.


keep Gresham, he'll crack 300k, but it might take a bit of time.


congrats big carl! hope he is well


hartley > sam collins
ben ken > wingerd/ lids

hewett/smith > mathieson
ben ken ? wingard




get lids for sure or wait one more week. breakeven 124


What are our thoughts on James Kelly?

Seems to be getting some more time in the midfield and I am seriously considering bringing him in
Could also be a great POD



Although he's getting pricey now. In a couple of weeks I'll have to choose between him or Rance at probably the same price. In fact, Rance will likely be cheaper. Not sure I can pull the trigger but this kid is a jet.


Obviously didn't read your post properly, my bad. Thought you were talking about the GWS boy.


I have had him for 5 weeks and he has been consistent. Hoping he picks up DPP soon so I can swing him into my backline. He is one of my POD's and has contributed to my rise up the rankings from 55,000 after round 2, to 3,800 after last round.

The Mountain

Mate, supercoach don't do mid season position changes like dreamteam


Looked good early on, but I think you've missed the bus. Better options around

Southern S

Boat sailed at the start of the year, and the boat ain't that good anyway.


Gray or GAJ? that is the question….


There are no questions when it comes to God. There are only answers. The way of God is always the correct answer. All other answers are incorrect. It is the Gospel, it is the truth.


The answer is… GAJ


Mate, there is no question here….


BVC – your MID is almost a mirror of mine (replacing Hanners with Smith on field)


Are most winners of SuperCoach in #1 spot for now? Should we start focusing on league wins…


Depends what your rank is.

Looking at the actual gap that needs to be made up I would say top 1000 and you are still in contention. You would need some seriously lucky POD's to pay off though.


Yep I'm 380th atm 700 points off the leader, slipping away a bit. Need to select some pods for sure


I would keep going for overall anyway. All you need is a good captain pick and a POD to perform well and you move up.

I'm fluctuating from 40-150 each week so it's pretty fluid near the top.

Plus even if you don't win, you get bragging rights for next year! 😛


For what it's worth Ben Kennedy apparently tweaked an ankle in the warm up – he'll be gone this week though, time to cash in!


Stefan BLOODY Martin?!!


Think I might hold onto him, give him time to get back into form while I upgrade elsewhere. Won't get too much lower than he currently is… (I bloody well hope not!)

The Mountain

Im getting rid of him this week. Its not that he is out of form, I think he has been in pretty good form, but west is stealing majority of the ruck duties and leppa for some unknown reason keeps him up foward where the ball isnt going to often. And the fact the he still has a BE of 160 worries me

Rick Grimes

Yea I'll hold and hope for better. With Rocky back perhaps they'll rejig things again and West will get dropped. .


Got rid of him last week for Goldy, team just looks better

Bolton's Blues

Libba and BenKen > Howe and Franklin, thoughts?
if i trade the same 2, i have just over 1mil to spend, i can get 2 forwards or 1 mid 1 forward
other options if mixed around trading out the same 2 players
Wingard and Dahl
Wingard and Zorko
Wingard and Lids

Wingard and pretty much any other forward, high risk high reward just like picking Howe


I prefer the second option. I don't think you're getting that much better on the first. I don't really agree with trading libba yet either.

Bolton's Blues

if its not libba, the only other rookies i have to upgrade are Kerridge and AMT (Byrne is my only rookie defence player, and Petracca sits on my forward bench)

i can do Kerridge and BenKen to Wingard and Franklin or Howe, im 1k short of getting Joey


I would urge you to think very carefully before bringing in someone like Howe.


Is it worth bring B. Smith in? He has bottomed out and BE of 19 and seems to have lifted a bit.


Wondering there same… Smith down back and Wingard up FWD. Could be a masterstroke(r)!


They are the 2 im thinking of bringing in
Maybe mcveigh


Laird will be back this week. That might mean we'll see Smith scoring less again?


Im pretty sure smith was scoring more with laird in the side


Agreed. Smith scores more with Laird in the side. Less pressure to be the #1 runner out of defense. The thing that worries me is Henderson being in the team. They have Smith, Seedsman, Laird, Henderson all play that half back/wing role which could take points off eachother.

Average Joe

If you think crows will be winning more often in future.

Averages 3.6 more effective disposals, 1.3 more contested possessions and 2.1 more rebound 50's in wins. Helps his supercoach scores a lot when adelaide play well


Ok, time to address the elephant in the room.
Who ACTUALLY went Gawn to Goldstein?


I went Stef Martin to Goldstein and I am rapt with that decision.


Speaking of rapt, Goldy's knee is probably still wrapped in ice. I've had him from the start. Let's hope he's all good.


I did in a rage trade last Sunday night. Thankfully, common sense prevailed. Reversed and put vc on Max. 334 points later I'm rage free.


I did …. Still happy with it but we will see again this week


would like some trade advice on my team as bye rounds are coming up ill leave my team and structure below – 8k left ranked 6000 18 trades left

DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Enright, Tippa, Byrne (Ruggles, Collins)
MID: Danger, Hanners, Ablett, Ward, Shiel, Priddis, Zieball, Lewis (Hewett, Davis, Gresham)
RCK: Gawn, NicNat (Lorensch)
FWD: Dusty, Hall, Boomer, Kerridge, DeGoey, Petracca (Benken,non palying rookie)

R13 – Docherty, Laird, Byrne, Dusty, Kerridge, Hall, DeGoey, Gresham, Ablett, Davis, Lorensch (11 missing)

R14 – Tipungwuti, Non playing Rookie, Petracca, Benken, Hewett, Priddis, Hannerbery, NicNat, Gawn (9 missing)

R15 – Ruggles, Enright, Shaw, S.Collins, Boomer, Ward, Danger, Lewis, Zieball, Shiel (10 Missing)

thoughts would be much appreciated


It's still only the top 18 scores in bye rounds so you are looking very nicely spread.


Give up ur shit


Hewett to Mathieson

Kerridge to Deledio.



Aaaahhhhh welcome !


My first trade idea of the week is the same, but BenKen to Deledio (holding Kerridge).
I'd rather bring in Gray this week and wait on Lids. But can't swing anything to bring Mathieson in that way. And downgrade targets up forward are severely lacking.

Bob Butter

Is it worth trading macpherson for Mathieson this week?


He's not exactly setting the world on fire. Better to use him as a downgrade but if you're like me none of your mid cows have fattened. A tough one…


Yes if you have another midfield eating donuts on the bench

The Mountain

Shocking week this week community, went from 2346 last week to 2011 this week with a little help from stef martin, hartley and Ben Ken all producing nothing

This week im going:
martin -> Nic Nat
McPherson -> Mathieson


Thoughts on Shiel over Ward?

Bolton's Blues

I started with Shiel, consistent scores, cant complain


Both good options, but Ward should finish with more points by the seasons' end

David T

B: Shaw, Simpson, Gibson, Rich, Laird, Tippa
(Adams, S.Collins)

C: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Libba, Priddis, Gray, Rockliff, J.Smith
(Hewett, Menadue, Mathieson)

R: Goldstein, Nic Nat

F: Zorko, Montagna, Hall, Wells, Barlow, Kerridge
(Petracca, Cox)

17 trades | $139,500 (after trades this round)

Proposed Trades:
De Goey >> R. Gray
B. Kennedy >> Mathieson
Wondering whether Parker, Ward, S. Mitchell, J. Selwood are going to be sitting in the Top 8 midfielders at the end…

The Mountain

Ward will defiantly be top 8, Parker and Selwood maybe but at the rate they're scoring at the moment probably top 15, and not to sure where mitchell will finish


Tipa and Hartley gone
Gibbo and rance in thoughts ?

David T

Gibson probably close to his cheapest price you'd think and has the late bye.

Rance you could wait a few weeks and trade him in for someone like DBJ, Brown, Tippa, Adams after his bye and before theirs.

Southern S

Tippa scores consistently and is on a 43 BE. Hold for sure.


I'd be holding Tippa.


Any other rookies to consider this week ? Already have Mathieson


Is it time to flick Libba? I am not sure he is top 8 material. BE of 113 this week. He may have maxed out. 25k extra to swap him for Gray

David T

Not completely against this trade as I think Gray is a really good pick up. Surely you have Kennedy or someone else whose BE is less achievable?

I see Libba as someone I'm going to be happy to have on-field for a while and I think he will be over 500k at some point (could even be 2 weeks from now? Do you want to miss that?). Just think it'd be silly to not hold him through the byes where he will be really useful.

If all things go to plan, I'm personally hoping to trade Libba to Hannebery for around 60-80k at some stage.


True. my issue is that all my PODs are POSs. I have Mitch Robinson (cue laughter) Wines and that stupid Waite. (I knew i should have dumped him once he had made 150k). just not enough super premos and to many questionable scorers.
I dumped Kennedy last week and all my other rookies have acheivable breakevens.
I'll hit that reverse change button at least 400 times this week.

Rick Grimes

I'm keeping Libba for now. He's not gonna produce ultra premo output, but with the carnage I've suffered over the last few weeks I need to preserve that trade. Worst case scenario he'll end up as M8, but if things go as planned he'll be M9.

Southern S

I wouldn't say it's time to flick Libba, but if you want Gray then maybe ditch Wines.


Never usually do sideways trades but thinking Wines >> Gray
Wines is absolutely stinking it up at the moment and doesn't look like scoring anywhere near 100+.
Then Downgrade Kerridge to Mathieson and double upgrade to 2 defense premo defenders next week.


I'm holding on to Wines for the hopes i can sideways, or close enough to one, to Parker..


I think Libba played a great game 30+ disposals I thought his game would have been worth a ton for sure. I'll be holding him


Anyone trading out Kerridge this week? Know of his Breakeven?


60 break even


I wouldn't trade Kerridge BE 60 and playing the lions

Rick Grimes

I'm thinking of Kerridge to JPK. But he's low priority with that BE,


Should be the last rookie traded out

Shake n bake

Ranked 1030 could have been a lot better but had Parker capt
Rd 7 & 8 oh well. Still have 20 trades so hoping to make right
Trades from here on how is everyone else traveling?


I'm ranked 500 with 20 trades also, copped a zero in the backline which cost me. Think we're still in the race for #1?

Rick Grimes

Probably not unless you have some excellent PODs. But who knows. If a lot of people put the C on a bloke who's off after 5 mins and you get it on the bloke scoring 150…woooshka, can move a long way in a short time.


Mm yeah I hit Gawn this week but Byrne and laird out hurt me. Hoping to make a break back through the byes


Why would you put the C on a bloke playing friday night? Vc no argument, but C??



Makes no sense to put the C on unless you had absolutely nobody you could loophole somehow.

Big G

Deleido or Zorko?






id got deleido now and get zorko later


Lids, but he has a round 13 bye


If Suckling performs well next week could he be considered as a decent keeper option at below 400k? Can see him scoring 90+ for the rest of the season


I've had him since the start nearly traded him but then Bob went down. Then he performed well before injury. He is a keeper for me


Menadue to Gray and Brown down to Collins this week, finally giving me 10/10/10 for the bye rounds.
Have no choice but to miss getting Mathieson this week as Smith Davis and Keays still have room to grow.

The Beard

Franklin or Robbie Gray would be moving Zorko down if I took Gray.

The Mountain



Stevens or Grey for Ben Kennedy …..1 trade only for me this week. Oh and I am ranked 45 so need all the help I can get jock !!!


Gray, but check your bye situation.


I like the look of Steven, could be a good POD for you since you are ranked so high up


How many trades should we look to be on right now ?

The Mountain

Around 18-20, maybe less depending on the injuries you have coped so far.


Ive only got 13 left but i have good cover for the bye rounds and will not trade in bye rounds at all, Had a bad start to year every week a new injury

Southern S

The amount of trades that your team needs to make it through the year, is the amount you should have 😉


Good answer


I've got 15 left after this week but only a few spots off full prem.

Generally you should aim to have 10 trades and full prem team for after the byes.

Use this as a guide and adjust depending on your situation.


How did Stef Martin not make it into the damned column?? 600k premo with back to back 40s. Biggest rage trade ever!!


Needs Steven May to flatten him from behind to knock him back into the shape he was in before Round 4!


Hartley has to go now?
Have KK, with Ruggles and Williams on bench.

And what about an F7/R3 back up for Goldy?

Southern S

Nth says Goldstein will be playing this week.


Thank the supercoach gods. Was contemplating an upgrade to Tippett instead of Lids just to avoid a donut. Might be necessary to bring in a ruck swing player at some stage though, for those of us who selected Grimley instead of Cox especially…

One Touch Wonder

Which one is Hall? Shark Bait?


G'day community,

My team is looking quite okay at this stage heading into the bye rounds soon.
However it's time to cull some lambs.

I am currently thinking,

Ben Ken to Rhys Mathieson
Michael Hartley to Sam Collins with a whopping 489k in the bank for a double upgrade next week, but risking it on the first weeker.


Ben Ken to Mathieson
Hartley to Bartel/Gibson with 82k in the bank and the plausible trade of Brown to Collins next week.

Thoughts community?


If Kennedy and Hartley are on your bench, option 1

Southern S

Option 2, may as well wait for Collins to be on the bubble and you'll get a premo this week.


Option 2.

Too much money to have sitting on your bench.


Getting rid of DeGoey and Wanting a Premo FWD who to get in

Riewoldt (POD)
Lids (already have Dusty)


Dahlhaus, Zorko could wait a week as well




What to do with S. Martin. Lost so much cash on him I cant bring my self to trade him out… He has been outscored by Cox on the bench 3 times now… he's doing my head in. Is there any light at the end of the tunnel can anyone see him coming good and worth holding…
Im spewn I was tossing up between Martin and Nat at the start of the year… (I went the wrong choice).

Can someone please give me some hope and tell me its all going to be alright 🙂


The cash is gooonnne. The question is would you buy him in now with his price, performance and potential or someone else. If someone else, is he worth a trade over Martin?


Hewett –> Mathison
Ben ken –> Wingard
leaves me with 105 k to use next week for upgrades thoughts?


Looks good

Good game last week Gibbs


Big risk in Wingard, but could be worth it if you want to make a move up the rankings

Southern S

I'm taking the Wingard risk, at worst he'll become an F7.


Grey, Dahlhaus or Franklin who u prefer ?


Dahl. Lock him in.




community, thoughts on trades for my team this week i have 35 k in the bank with 16 trades left
def- shaw, simmo, larid, pittard, DBJ, hartley,(brown, ruggles)
mid- danger, pendles, priddis, parker, shiel, mitchell, libba, keays,( davis, dunkley, macpherson)
ruck- gawn, nic nat( goertz)
fwd- zorko, martin, montagna, barlow, j kennedy, hall.( mcgovern, petracca)


work out what 3 premo defenders and 2 midfielders you want in your team.

then pick them off during the bye rounds


Looking good.

Libba —> Hanners would be clever.

Lucas Riddle

J Selwood and S Mitchell absolutely killing me . Sh*t Cu*ts

Southern S

Selwood should bounce back, Mitchell is 33 years old and was a trap from day one.

Many people in the supercoach community warned people.


Ok Know it all!


Def: Shaw, Adams, Docherty, Tippa, DBJ, Brown (Laird, Byrne)
Mid: Danger, GAJ, Parker, Pendles, Hannebery, Libba, Priddis, Hopper (Keays, Smith, McPherson)
Ruc: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
Fwd: Martin, Franklin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Kennedy, Petracca)

Thinking Kennedy and MacPherson for Wingard and Collins

$76k left


I am so bloody enraged with Ollie Wines and his majestic thighs. He pops up for the occasional 100, but has been pumping out snot for the majority of this season. Would nearly be able to excuse his behaviour if he kicked the pill occasionally instead of constantly hand balling. He will sit there, like a stain at M8 until the byes, but he's as good as dead to me. I had big hopes for him this season. Never again Mr Wines. Never again.

Dan @ Hand Candy FC.


Ollie Wines is a contested ball-player. He's in my team (sigh) so i watch him closely when Port Adelaide plays. He's a stoppage player, at his best when the ball is in close. However, he handballs a lot and when he kicks it is often a kick forward under pressure (he leads Port for clangers). His main problem is one the ball is released from the stoppage, he's lost. Players from both sides break free and stream away from the pack – he is always left behind. Wines just doesn't have the run to go with them (I'm surprised he can walk with those thighs!).

Sadly I think the drop in stoppages this year has affected him just as much as some ruckmen.


What's going on with Priddis ?
I'm getting real nervy that he's only managing to scrape the 100 mark

And will Rance be a top 6 defender ?


Stand by the Shaggy haired god.

Look what happened to people when they dare to trade out GAJ. The same will happen to you if you trade out priddis.

Give him another few weeks, get the rest of your team premium, then review.

Priddis -> Shiel will get you an extra 10 points a week on average.
Hartley -> Bartel or a premium defender will get you 30-40 points a week, it's important to prioritise your trades.


hought I'd share with everyone my Round 10 experience… My starting team was lucky enough to contain: B.Kennedy, Murphy, Viney, Hopper, Shaw as capt, Petracca, Rich, Hall, Kerridge.

I also decided to utilise the loophole and get DBJs score on for Adams, by putting Laird on field. I was also smart enough to save an emergency just in case I had any late withdrawals on Sunday and could use that on Adams…. HOWEVER I very conveniently found out Kkolo was a late out 5 minutes into the Dogs-Pies game. End result 1 donut, a dismal score of 1823 and an extremely deflated ego. All this after being on top of the world with a 2367 last week!


The seas can be cruel, but you're better off staying in the ship.

Southern S

I wouldn't call Shaw a villain every defender is going to get an 80 here and there.


True, but i think with his recent form a lot of people were relying on him as captain, and received and stinking 80 x 2. Thus making him a bit of a villain

Southern S

Yeah true, he shouldn't have set the bar so high with that 203!


where's Todd?


I have two trade ideas this week:

Hewett to Mathieson and;
Kennedy to McVeigh or

McPherson to Mathieson and;
Kennedy to collins


Not sure what trades to do this week…



// COX


I've got $250k in the bank and 15 trades, I know I'm on the light side of total trades but will stop in a few weeks and hold for injury's..
Considering trading out Brown to Collins and upgrading rather Kerridge/Cox to Dahlhaus as nobody in the mid is fat enough to be traded out to Robbie Gray.


Have a week off the trades.


How many trades are people down to this week? If I use 2 I'll be down to 17. Is this about right?


im down to 13


18 and getting nervous. Might wait for Bye rounds to sure up defence, though may be forced to get an R3 if Goldy is out this week.


13 trades left with 2 spots to to fill, I have been rushing to get my side to full premium before the byes end and then I will relax on the trades and load up for a hard run home and finals.


Def: Shaw, Adams, Docherty, Tippa, DBJ, Brown (Laird, Byrne)
Mid: Danger, GAJ, Parker, Pendles, Hannebery, Libba, Priddis, Hopper (Keays, Smith, McPherson)
Ruc: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
Fwd: Martin, Franklin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Kennedy, Petracca)

Thinking Kennedy and MacPherson for Wingard and Collins

Ranked 2100 with 2192 on weekend
Not much cash left
Even after these trades on a bit left

Should I do a double down instead
Not sure on Wingard but think he is too cheap
Might reverse actually



Please help 🙂


Don't trade this week. Not many good options. No point trading just for the sake of it.


Worst week I have ever had in my 3 years playing seriously, I scored 1866 community!! Consolation is needed if I am going to play out the year 🙁


As Jock would say "we're here for ya mateee"

I had one of those scores a few weeks ago, I've bounced back well but sticking to the plan.


I need to finalise my backline – already have Shaw, Simpson, Docherty, Bartel and Laird. B Williams on the Bench and Hartley on the way out. Who can I fit in? Z Williams seems a good fit at a nice price, great POD. Would McVeigh be too Risky? Enright looking good also but very unsure.





Southern S

Could wait another week on McVeigh with a projected 100 he will only go up 9k.



Before you dismiss, look at his scores (except week he did tagging role) , then look at Crows draw for rest of year then look at his price.

Southern S

He is very tempting at that price. Scoring is decent.

For example Hartley+70k is a solid trade. If he doesn't end up that good then you have a great D7.


14 trades and 358k in the bank.
Shaw Rance Docherty Yeo M Adams Mcdonald-Tipungwuti // B Williams Broad
Selwood Shiel Parker Gray Ablett Liberatore J Smith Hopper // Keays MacPherson Schoenfeld
Gawn S Martin // Cox
D Martin Montagna Franklin Hall Wells Kerridge // B Kennedy Petracca
1. S Martin and B Kennedy to Goldstein and Wingard or Howe or any others under 520k in forward line
2. S Martin and B Kennedy to Naitanui and Dahlhaus or any others


2. Goldy not the absolute must have like he was last year.

The Mountain

Option 2

Southern S

Option 1


If i do pick option 1 which forward to get

Southern S

Wingard if you're the gambling type, he is projected to go up 32k with a score of 78. If he scores well it'll be probably be 40k+ and boat missed.

Whilst Jeremy Howe is scoring very well I'd be very careful when considering this choice, honestly not a chance I'd bring him in. many will on the back of this form, but it could backfire.

If it succeeds then sure he might score quite well and end up at about 550k? May as well just pay for a Dahlhaus or Zorko.

Franklin is the only forward I'd consider at the moment under 520k, I like Merret too but he has a high BE and will possibly drop a fair bit over the next few and could be picked up after the bombers bye.


Considering bringing in Stringer next week as bench cover. Massive ceiling and will be around 350k

Southern S

2015 – 22 games played

Scores of 100+ – 4 (105,114,115,128)

2016 – 10 games played

Scores of 100+ – 2 (104, 113)

Not sure about the massive ceiling, and he's incredibly inconsistent.


Agree with this. Good research to back it up too.
One way trip to Spudsville.


Should be looking at bench cover once you have a full premo team




Lids or Dahlhaus?




Any forwards or def on the bubble. Want to get rid of Hartley but all my mid forwards are already in the forward line. Or I trade Hartley and Oliver and get Gibson and matheson?
Hartley out for a while. No urgency now


thoughts on bringing lachie neale in this week and getting gaz next week if he is back or just get gaz in this week


If you dont have gaz at this point, you are not fair dinkum about super coach


Bit harsh. If he brings him in now he's paying a lot less than the rest of us. Hasn't missed out on a mountain of points either.


Missed the boat on Neale, maybe look at Steven


didn't really miss a lot scyb but he seems to be back now so ill bring him in


Bring in Hannebery or Pendles this week?

Southern S

Get the one who fits your bye structure first.

I'm waiting till round 14 to get Pendles after his bye.


I cannot believe it is week 11 and people don't have hanners. Absolutely outrageous

Southern S

Anyone else think Hopper is a potential burn man?

Already on a positive BE of 17 after his first price rise.

Has Geelong at Skilled this week,and Sydeny at Spotless next (followed by bombers)

Like the write up Carl but not sure I'd call him a wise pick……yet.

Also no mention of Motlop as a Villain with a 29?

Southern S

Motlop as the damned*


You tell us sport you seem to think you are a expert!


You have all the answers! Why you asking the community?


Pretty glad I passed on hopper. Decided he wouldn't be a keeper. Nice young player but too expensive to start with.


I've always thought a burn man is a premium player who is under performing not a rookie who is performing at his expected output. Never thought of picking him anyways due to the infinity amount of older talented midfielders running around there.


G'day Community, wondering what you think of my plan this week.

My problem players at the moment are Hartley, Brown, Wines and Menadue.

I don't really like the current crop of bubbles boys on offer this week but Mathieson seems to be the pick of the bunch. Blokes like McVeigh and Wingard are tempting but I don't see them as top 6 in their respective lines so I'm choosing to stay away.

The plan is to stick Hartley on the bench in the hopes that a more suitable bubble boy comes along to downgrade him to. Brown I think will make a bit more cash yet so I'll probably hold for now. Menadue needs to go and only didn't go last week because he wasn't named so he got a spot on the bench. And I'd prefer not to trade Wines, had him since the start and would prefer if he made some of the lost cash back before I look at trading him.

My trade plans are Menadue and Libba (I think he's peaked and there are many better mid keeper options about) out and Mathieson and Dahlhous in. This gives me an extra 40k in the war chest as well.

I've got my sights set on Boyd/Simpson for def and Lids for fwd but I don't think this is the week to get them, they look set for slight price drops, hoping to make them part of my bye rounds upgrading.

Would love to hear your thoughts community. I'm struggling to come up with reasons not to do these trades this week.


I wouldn't trade Libba he's an easy M8 possibly M9. He's my M8 right now, he's averaging almost 97. He is capable of going large. Think Doggies just be cautious with him right now to see how he fare's? With the Doggies in contention for finals, think they might let him loose in the coming weeks? I'm sure he's being monitored. But at some point they are going to have to let him loose? Just my option.

Bobby Singh

Two trade options lads.

• Martin to Gawn

• Kennedy to Gray

Which one is more efficient? Also, who is the best rookie to pickup this week? Looking at Collins.


Is the rest of your side full premium?

Bobby Singh

Close. 3 rookies left.


Surely Trengove gets a run this week with the flog Viney out?

Southern S

Hopefully, I didn't get Hopper and probably going to skip Mathieson too.


He might, should be a good cash cow

The Ranger

Fingers crossed


Didn't the Fearless Leader also advise us to get Gawn out of our sides? Sage indeed.


Hi community.

Thanks in advance.

Gibson, Rance or Bartel?


annoying old lady

**disclaimer, i asked the same question in this thread, waiting on response too

Ok, out of Rance or Gibson, I'd argue that Gibson has a higher scoring potential, but Rance is a more consistent performer. Although, they are both key position backmen, and are prone to wildly swinging scores.

Bartel is my answer to your question. Barring last year, where he suffered a knee injury and missed a significant portion of the year, he as averaged over 100 in eight of the last nine years (averaging 98 in that one season). This season, he is averaging 94, HOWEVER in his last 5 games, he is averaging 106.8, and his consistency in those games is aligned with his form over the whole of his career.

TLDR: Bartel. He gud.


Bartel has a tougher draw than the other two but I like his last 3-4 games during finals as well. Decisions, decisions.


Im thinking big Zac Dawson is due for a breakout second half of the season


Not too really sure on what to do this week? Any ideas would be great. Have 20,800 in the bank.

Defenders: Shaw, Dohcerty, Gibson, LAird, Tippa, Ruggles (Wagner, S Collins)
Midfield: Danger, Parker, Titchell, Sloane, Lewis, Sidebottom, Adams, Rockliff (Menadue, Smith, Macpherson)
Ruck: Gawn, Jacobs (Grimley)
Forwards: Martin, Zorko, Merret, Hall, Kerridge, Wells (McGovern, Pertracca)

Thinking Kerridge & Wagner > Montanga & Cheap rookie such as Tucker if he plays again leaving me $48,900 afterwards and 12 trades.


And that's counting on Rocky being an in and Adams sitting on the bench until he returns. Also know I have to get rid of Menadue and Macpherson at some stage soon.

annoying old lady

Save the trades!! But if that advice doesn't bode well with your plans, how about kerridge down to jackson paine ($127k), then you could bring in any defender you like for AMT with $649k. If you went Bartel ($497k), that would leave you with $151k, potentially saving you a trade later by using a straight rookie upgrade later.


Jeez 12 trades left, I'd be looking to save trades mate. It's a long season.


thanks for advice. Thinking you're all right so maybe just going Macpherson to Mathieson and cash grab.


Here's my team
DEF: Shaw, Simpson, KKolo, Adams, DBJ, Brown (Hartley, Broad)
MID: Danger, Hanners, Ablett, Steven, Shiel, Libba, Smith (Davis, Keays, Macpherson)
RUC: Gawn, Martin (Currie)
FWD: Dusty, Zorko, Hall, Wells, Barlow, Kerridge (Tippa, Petracca)
121k and 18 trades left.
thoughts and what trades ? Thanks


Brown and Hartley to S.Collins and Gibson or Docherty.


Which defender under 485k for hartley in defence??