RD9: The Heroes. The Villains. The Damned.

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Big Carl CoachKings CommunityHeath Shaw and Todd Goldstein, you magnificent bastards.

Monster performances by this pair helped rescue many SuperCoach sides on the weekend, and those who had Goldy in CoachKings were also reaping the rewards.

In many ways, it was a round of different parallels for our sides. Massive scores from Shaw and Goldstein provided many teams with a significant boost, but there were also plenty of ordinary performances as well.

Those smart enough to stick the VC or C on Goldy or Heater benefited greatly. Others who backed Patrick Dangerfield or Max Gawn for double points fell back to the pack.

Because of another torrid run of non-selections on Thursday, many were again forced to go in with considerably weaker sides. This made the captaincy selection all the more crucial. Some got it right, while others failed miserably.

But we live and we learn. And speaking of extracting knowledge, it was great to see our fearless trailblazer Jock Reynolds learning off some of the world’s great leaders after entertaining them in his bungalow over the weekend.

And CoachKings history was made over the weekend – for the first time a member of the fairer sex has taken home the weekly $1000. Not only did Sarah take home the bikkies from her home base at The Morphett Arms.. she’s fair dinkum smashed the world record CoachKings score out of the park


Heath Shaw (203 SC)

Like the Cookie Monster is addicted to cookies, Heater just loves the feel of the ball connecting with his boot. Watching Heath kick the pigskin over and over and over again had me making ‘num num num’ sounds! Had it 38 times, 36 of these by foot. The distributer of the Giants side, they look to him all the time to set up play from half back. A legitimate captaincy option if he can keep his current form.

Heath Shaw Supercoach Cookie Monster

Todd Goldstein (173 SC)

Back with a bang and hats off to those who had this man as their captain or loop-holed him with the VC. Goldy owners have already experienced his one shit score for the season, so now all that’s left to do is sit back and let the good times roll. Here’s to hoping for a double ton in the next couple of weeks. I reckon it’s on the radar.

Dustin Martin (133 SC)

The man with the AFL’s worst haircut has been hitting some pristine form in the past couple of weeks. In the scheme of things even his early season form was not that bad. Every season we seem to be waiting for him to break out into ultra-premium status. If he keeps this sort of touch up, who knows, this might finally be the year.

Honourable mentions:
Jack Steven (145 SC), Jack Ziebell (144 SC), Trent Cotchin (140 SC), Scott Pendlebury (140 SC), Lachie Neale (137 SC), Sam Docherty (135 SC), Tom Lynch (133 SC), Steele Sidebottom (128 SC).  


Patrick Dangerfield (86 SC)

He’s been so good this season so it seemed natural to just throw the C on him and not worry about anything else. 86 really isn’t that bad a score but to those who had him as captain, particularly given Goldy’s brilliance, it hurt a lot.

Max “MCG” Gawn (63 SC)

Max’s poor form appears to be an MCG-related issue. The statistics throughout his career show he averages significantly higher at all grounds away from the home of football. Is averaging 92 there this season compared to 147 away from the G. Like kryptonite to superman, big Maxy must find a way to overcome this vice if he is to challenge for the number one ruck mantle.


Honourable mentions:
Matt Dea (123 SC), Robbie Gray (120 SC), Chad Wingard (107 SC), Sam Kerridge (105 SC), Mitch Brown (81 SC).


Christian Petracca (105 SC)

The most reliable rookie option to play on your field. Very impressive game against Brisbane. Love his attack on the ball. It won’t be long before this kid is a must-have premo in a year or two.

George Hewett (87 SC)

Those who played him on their fields due to carnage elsewhere would have been very pleased with this young man’s output. Came good in our time of need. Excellent, George.

Ryan Davis (66 SC)

Considering his previous performances, this was a pretty solid outing from Davis. Particularly considering his side were absolutely slaughtered by Adelaide. Has showed very good NEFL form and with Gold Coast’s injury crises should get plenty more game time. Still has some money to be made yet.

Honourable mentions:

Ciaran Byrne (109 SC), Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti ( SC), Clayton Oliver (76 SC), Jacob Hopper (70 SC), Josh Smith (67 SC), Michael Hartley (61 SC),  Mason Cox (62 SC), Rhys Mathieson (53 SC), Ben Keays (51).


Ross “Tank” Lyon

Ross, you’re an absolute disgrace. After Michael Barlow’s second monster WAFL performance in a row, it defies believe that Lyon would keep him out of the side, particularly with Freo’s struggles. Barlow had 44 touches for 200 Supercoach points for Peel on Saturday. If Michael can’t get a game this week, than the Dockers are clearly tanking. Another non-selection will have many coaches, myself including, calling for Lyon’s head.

Darcy “Impeccable timing” MacPherson (44 SC)

Was looking good before a nasty knee injury forced him from the ground in the second quarter. Many who traded him in will be highly irritated, given he is now set for extended period on the sidelines.

Darcy “Battler” Byrne-Jones (57 SC)

Another who was struck down with injury, but to the kid’s credit he battled on bravely. Appeared to jar his leg and hurt his ankle but the injury is not as bad as MacPhersons. Wait and see whether he plays this week but he is certainly under a cloud. However, he has provided his owners with some good service and probably should be traded if he misses games.

Honourable mentions:
Tommy Sheridan (56 SC), Darcy Parish (48 SC), Connor Menadue (46 SC), Ben Crocker (29 SC).

Over to you Community, who were your Heroes and Villains from this round?

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Steeeve · 23/05/2016 at 10:43

Great write up! Glad I flicked Barlow. Even if he comes back, he could always get dropped again. Unfortunately it was for MacPherson…

Luckily have enough cash saved up to go MacPherson to Hopper this week and still upgrade another line. All my other mids still have cash left to make and I'm only one away from full premo (waiting for Robbie Gray to drop some more after skipping on Priddis).
Given DBJ is seemingly at his peak price, I'm looking for another premo defender. Think I need one of the Carlton boys, who are now the same price. But price isn't much of a factor. So…
Kade Simpson
or Sam Docherty

Thanks community for being superstars

    James · 23/05/2016 at 10:48

    From what ive seen of the blues Docherty has been on kick on duties so that should sway you that way imo

    siri · 23/05/2016 at 10:53

    I got both

      siri · 23/05/2016 at 10:54

      The doc first

    Cozza · 23/05/2016 at 11:55

    I already have Simpson and thinking of bringing Docherty in this week – both look great at the moment

      Josh · 23/05/2016 at 22:17

      What about for byes tho
      You will have 2 blues rather than 1?

    Dex · 25/05/2016 at 13:40

    doch 100% mate i got him at 470 if you look at his two low scores they both came in shitty games ez call for me kade could struggle later as if you watch his games he appears to be allowing doch to cover for both of them sometimes as he gets a quick rest 🙂 expect kade and doch to score the same way they have all year leaving docherty over 620 come the end of the season

CJudd3Votes · 23/05/2016 at 10:51

Wonder how many are gonna do a Gawn to Goldstein. 6 of Melbourne's next twelve at the G too for what it's worth

    Pjay · 23/05/2016 at 11:10

    I reckon zero

      Wattsieesq · 23/05/2016 at 11:50

      Well, you would be wrong as it's only Monday morning and already 338 people have made that trade.

      Pjay · 24/05/2016 at 00:17

      Sorry, I will clarify that a bit better. I reckon zero people that have at least half an idea of how supercoach works.

    dean · 23/05/2016 at 14:52

    silly trade you goose

bUCKET__ · 23/05/2016 at 11:03

Reasonably took VC Goldy over C Heater, then lost league match by 6 points. No worries though! this is the round all of our premos return!

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 11:44

    imagine if you had the VC on Goldy, but then went and put the C on Shaw.

Nick · 23/05/2016 at 11:05

Terrible captain choices (well, not Terrible, but last minute changes and putting the C on Danger, Parker etc have hurt me) these last three weeks have seen my ranking fall around 4,000 places after being in the Top 3% early on. So disappointing as this was my best year in super coach yet by a far.

That being said I'm going to need some decent changes and some PODs over the next few weeks to a increasingly bleak looking side. With 220,000 in the bank in hoping to get in a DPP player, Montagna is my first choice.

Who would be my first choices to get rid of? I've got injuries here, there and everywhere like most at the moment and my finger is on the trigger so I wondered how everyone was feeling about Ablett, Hall, Wells and how long I should hold them before making a move?

BACK: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Laird (INJ), Bartel, AMT. Int: Hartley and DBJ

MID: Parker, Mitchell, Danger, Ablett, Liber, Hunter, B.Kennedy, Josh Smith. Int: Oliver, Ravis, Macpherson.

RUC: Goldy, Gawn. Int: Grimley.

FWD: Waite, Dahlhaus, Kerridge, DeGoey, Petracca, Hall. Int: Wells, Menadue.


    Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 11:22

    Laird, Ablett, Wells and Hall should all be back this week
    for me personally with 222k in the bank, if you down grade DBJ to Willams (Dogs) and upgrade Menadue to Montagna
    Ive done the same instead i went Pendles instead, hes in to good of form to knock back and is a proven scorer

      Nick · 23/05/2016 at 11:25

      Perfect, that's exactly my thoughts. Thanks boss.

    Nick · 23/05/2016 at 11:48

    Trading out DBJ and Menapoo gives me the money I need to trade any player in – thoughts? Dependles seems like such a good pick – it is worth the pricetag when I could save big $$$ and only sacrifice 10-15 points per game and potentially look at a POD like Viney, Coniglio, Neale, Riewoldt or Treloar?

      Danksverymuch · 24/05/2016 at 11:19

      I'm loving Lachie Neale & Sloane dog as POD picks

Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 11:07

What does Bailey Willams JS look like? will he be out once adams is back?
If i make that trade i can go Menadue to Dependlebury and would leave my Mids pretty much complete (with the exception of sideways trading Libba later in the year/holding him all year)

Those trades leave me with the following

Shaw // Docherty // Simpson // Rance // Laird // Byrne (Ruggles // Williams)
Danger // Pendles // Parker // Shiel // Sloane // Ablett // Libba // Cripps (Davis // MacInjuryafter1week // Dunkley)
Gawn // Goldy (COX)
Martin // Hall // Wells // Kerridge // AMT // Petracca (BenKen // Grimley)

I can either trade menadue (14k left) or benken (199k left)

    The Mountain · 23/05/2016 at 11:26

    Trade menaspud, kennedy still has cash to make and can be a cover option if you have injuries

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 12:27

    nice team you have building there Bolts. what your rank? you have kept McCaffer & Dunkley! amazing.

    Who do you have reserved for your D6?

    your forward line looks a little light, who do you have your eye on to fill the premium places?

      Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 12:38

      5730 is my current rank (1100 points roughly behind #1), my problem is my round 13 bye where i have to many players out to fix/waste trades on fixing, so im letting it go, which will see my fall behind a fair bit

      D6 is an interesting one, at the start of the season i left myself with a 50/50 call, Bartel or Laird, now ive stayed away from Bartel and looked at other options (didnt start Rance or Docherty), I think Bartel, Gibson and Boyd are fighting it out for that last spot, im quite happy running with Byrne till after the bye rounds, and then will look to bring in one of those 3

      Forward line is weakish, but still getting the job done (this week atleast) Kennedy was on 40 at 1/4 time but slowed down which is a shame, i dont think you can ignore Zorko, gets the job done every week, but 570k, hes getting up in price and might have to pass on him until he comes back down (hopefully) Nick Riewoldt has been in ripping form, dont think i can pick him though, Joey Montanga has been in good form, if Richmond get their shit together, Lids will find his way into my team eventually

        Derek · 23/05/2016 at 12:55

        your cash generation is a bit of a worry with having Dunkley, McCaffer and grimley doing nothing. i think davis should get a few games now. but with shortage of cash, maybe you might look at RGray, JPK or priddis instead of pendlebury and then you could afford Zorko

          Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 13:04

          yeah its MacPherson haha

          RGray i traded out when he was got injured, Priddas is the only one id consider out of those 3

            Derek · 23/05/2016 at 13:20

            i think pendles is a great inclusion, just putting it to you that cash is in short supply this year.

            if you were thinking Priddis, this week is probably as cheap as you will get him.

            pendles has a round 13 bye, libba has a round 14 bye, looks a nice trade if you are thinking upgrading

              Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 13:43

              yeah cash generation is a worry, no doubt.

              Would you consider trading Libba to Trengrove (once on the bubble/after their byes) to fill out the m8 spot? or is it to late to make any reasonable cash?

                Higgo's Dog · 23/05/2016 at 16:29

                how many trades left?

      fedd · 23/05/2016 at 12:58

      macpherson Derek not caff

    Kevin Skywalker · 23/05/2016 at 12:37

    Bailey Williams JS not all that high. However Keiran Collins JS might be worse off. Collins more likely to lose his spot to Adams. Williams fighting for spot with Boyd coming back and maybe Suckling too, this week

    Matt · 23/05/2016 at 12:38

    They're different players, but Williams has looked very good so far and I'd be disappointed if he was dropped

      Derek · 23/05/2016 at 12:57

      if he is named this week, i'll get him. very few opportunities to downgrade in defense, take the punt

    yelad · 23/05/2016 at 14:13

    there should be 5 big names back for the dogs so im worried about Willams JS

      Northernsoul74 · 24/05/2016 at 12:01

      Going on form Williams deserves to keep his spot, certainly ahead of Adcock.

Warwick Capper · 23/05/2016 at 11:10

Best defender for 492k and under? I already have Shaw, Simpson, Bartel and Rich. Looking to trade DBJ out. Right now I am strongly considering enright. Thoughts?

    Nick · 23/05/2016 at 11:13

    Lock it in.

      Warwick Capper · 23/05/2016 at 11:14

      Are there any better options then Enright though? I cant see a solid defender anywhere.

        Woodman · 23/05/2016 at 11:20

        Gibson cheap at the moment if you're prepared for a roller coaster ride but is still averaging about 97.

        The Mountain · 23/05/2016 at 11:22

        laird should be back this week

    jake · 23/05/2016 at 12:06

    Laird or Gibson

    Matt · 23/05/2016 at 12:47

    wait for Laird

    Ranger · 23/05/2016 at 22:02

    Only prob is enright will be 'managed' at some point

Mister_Spock · 23/05/2016 at 11:12

Is Hopper a must have?

I really need to downgrade Byrne-Jones this week, so will have to bring in Bailey Williams to do so, and would rather upgrade with my other trade rather than the double-downgrade…

    Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 11:19

    198k with 106 and a 70 odd
    Not a MUST have but you can pick him and sleep easy knowing he should keep his spot in the 22, they rate him highly but
    Im passing this week, would rather pick Dependlebury instead and Trengrove and Mathieson are coming through soon

      Loop · 23/05/2016 at 12:15

      Will he keep Steele out of the team?

        Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 12:41

        Well thats an interesting one, Griffen is back soon aswell along with Hoskin Elliot.

        personally, i think he will hold his spot

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/05/2016 at 14:29

      Just be wary trengrove and pendles both have same bye. Throw in hannas/parker/petrecca etc.
      One to think about if u r worried about byes.
      Hopper suits my bye structure better and by the time he has his bye will look to downgrade.

    Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 11:21

    At that price, i dont think so

    Steeeve · 23/05/2016 at 11:33

    I said I'd get him if he scored an 80. Now getting him anyway because Mathieson didn't stretch my trousers and I don't know if MacPherson will be back all year. By the time he can return God, Hall, Jaeger and others should have returned.

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 12:20

    the boy from Leeton looks pretty good, as a Leeton lad myself i'd be getting him. But there are going to be very few opportunities to downgrade in defense for the next few weeks and i'm going to take the chance now to free up some cash with Brown/Hartley >> Williams.

    other trade will be Menadue >> Priddis

    in the back of my mind i do worry about GWS resting their first year players and his price is steep (but worth every cent)

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:10

    He is definitely not a must have, I won't be bringing him in. Williams is a good option though

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 23/05/2016 at 14:25

    I figure perfect way to get mendapoo out. $30k change over and you know he is gonna outscore mendapoo easily..handy m8 till the byes for mine
    Lad looked good and right at home in the star studded midfield.

    @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 14:37

    not a must have
    i wont be selecting him as he is expensive.

    trying to move myself away from the pack (i didnt get Macpherson and that worked a treat)

The Mountain · 23/05/2016 at 11:24

G'Day community

Ive got a couple of options this week.

Im going DBJ to williams (Which im not to keen on but he may be the only downgrade option down back)

and the Option 1 is adams to doc or rance, im really keen on doc but i already have simpson

option 2 is adams to montagna

Cheers community

    Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 11:38

    I wouldnt worry about having both the Blue boys, i had 3 of them and all went 100+ (Byrne Doc and Simpson)
    All 3 are used for rebounding, all 3 of them are trusted with the footy, dont let Simpson deter to you from Docherty

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:11

    Adams to Montagna could wait on a defender

Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 11:43

Hey guys

Got a few options this week for trades

Option 1: Libba to Neale
Option 2: Hartley/DBJ for Simmo/Doch (means i will have 14 players with bye week 1)
Option 3: Wells to Zorko/Dahlhaus/Montagna

    Wattsieesq · 23/05/2016 at 11:52

    Option 2

    BKW · 23/05/2016 at 12:06

    2 or 3 – I'd keep libber, upgrade him last if you have the luxury

    Matt · 23/05/2016 at 12:49

    Option 2. No reason to upgrade Lib or Wells

      Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 13:46

      But having 14 players with week 1 bye is an issue isn't it?

        Rod · 24/05/2016 at 21:55

        Option 4 – don't trade!

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:12

    Option 2 but a different defender, if you have a lot out in Round 13

      Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 14:16

      The only other options are Bartel or Pittard, i already have Gibbo,Shaw,

    Average Joe · 23/05/2016 at 14:48


    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 17:01

    Libbe on a 71 BE two weeks after a record 19 tackles and 128 SC score……………

      Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 17:05

      I understand it isn't the best time anymore, just putting options out there

        Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 17:07

        Just a reminder of his potential 🙂

        I'm tempted to keep him all year but was hoping more would trade him out so I'd have a POD.

          Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 17:18

          Yeah, he could turn out to be a good M8 if he keeps getting midfield time.

Nathan · 23/05/2016 at 11:50

Dbj out this week
With money in the bank ill be able to bring in from rance down with no swing sets left to move around
I cant take rance as byes will leave me screwed but i can take rd 14 bye players
So im thinking pittard
I kniw he doesnt go massive
Will be be top top 6 to 10?
Or should i use 2 trades and grab boyd

    Dan · 23/05/2016 at 21:22

    Interesting POD. I nearly started him but didn't have the plums. Has definitely stepped it up this year working on his DE and it has shown through his metres gained and SC scoring. Be prepared for inconsistency though. I feel like a lot of Port players are up and down with the rest of the team.

    EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:07

    Only bring in players that YOU believe will be top 8 for their position at seasons end.

      EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:08

      The obvious clarification being 'if bringing in a premo'

    GoldRush · 24/05/2016 at 01:05

    Pitted is a Burnham, learnt that 2 years ago.

I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 11:58

Ross I know your reading this. You know what we want. Barlow back in this week. Or there will be trouble! If not, don't be surprised if a fat bloke dressed in a ninja suit smacks you across the knee with a crowbar. You've been warned tanker!

    Skindog · 23/05/2016 at 12:51

    I am I N Pieman, you have been warned Ross, by the greatest supercoacher of all time!!!

    fedd · 23/05/2016 at 13:07

    spelt the last word wrong pie

      Skindog · 23/05/2016 at 13:15

      Surely Barlows back in with Mundy going down( on Lyon)?

      I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 13:30

      Can easily replace T with a W. Both more than appropriate

    @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 14:38


min0008 · 23/05/2016 at 12:00

DBJ out for Williams
Wines to Priddis or Martin to Goldstein

    Rodger the dodger · 23/05/2016 at 12:39

    Wines out? You are nuts and/or a first year SCer. NO sideways trade.

      min0008 · 23/05/2016 at 12:55

      Wines has been frustrating but will keep him

        cashcows · 23/05/2016 at 13:07

        Yeah I'm not sure it's a sideways if your going from a ""premo"" to an ultra premo. Just because they same price doesn't mean it's a bad trade.

        Dont see why you need them to appreciate say 100k before it's a "good upgrade trade". You lose out on their points and 100k. But thats assuming they actually premo and arent chasing points. Think SS made a good point about it in the last thread.

        For what it's worth, I'm considering the same trade and it aint my first year of SC.

    Shenanigans · 23/05/2016 at 13:59

    You've got to have bigger fish to fry than sideways premiums at this point. Must have another cow to cull somewhere in your side. Upgrades always come before sideways aka luxury trades

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:13

    Martin to Goldstein, be the lowest you will get him for a while

    @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 15:07

    do not trade out wines

    crazy trade

Chuck · 23/05/2016 at 12:02

What do we do with Stef "Shit my Pants" Martin!?
Trent West stealing points from him and already down to around 450k.
down to 18 trades after going DBJ to Williams this week.
Not going to make a call on using the second trade, however if west gets named again i am thinking it might be time to cut my losses and move him on to a nicnat or goldy. Waste of a trade?
Thoughts Community!?

    Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 12:13

    Yeah im wondering the same thing. The fact that Trent West is getting ruck time really isnt sitting well with me.

      min0008 · 23/05/2016 at 12:56

      Thinking of doing the same and getting Goldy for him as I have nic nat

    Redgumwon · 23/05/2016 at 13:28

    Goldy looked sore after the weekends game. Will North give him a rest shortly along with his bye? I think that North may do so. So I'd be holding off on the Goldy trade until at least after the bye round. Otherwise you could find yourself playing a ruckman down?

      Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 13:48

      If they didnt rest him this week, i dont think they will rest him before they bye, they have 6 year defining games to come, if they want to be considered for the flag, they need to win 4 out of 6
      i reckon they are pretenders and will win 1 (against Richmond) and lose the other 5 (Swans, Cats, Hawks they will go close to beating them, Crows, Eagles

Banksy700 · 23/05/2016 at 12:27

steven and neale. my two PODS welcome!!!

Perry · 23/05/2016 at 12:29

Hey guys I need some help!!

Plenty of issues at the moment but a major one is Sam Mitchell sitting in my midfield and killing me … Thoughts on upgrading him to Pendles … Or riding the wave and seeing how he goes? He will drop another 20-30k this week.

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:15

    If I have learnt one thing this season, it is that patience is the key. HOLD

      Perry · 23/05/2016 at 14:36

      Thanks mate!

Liam · 23/05/2016 at 12:32

Adams to Bailey Williams

Hewett to Priddis

Thoughts community??

    Perry · 23/05/2016 at 12:35

    Im considering the same but with DBJ to Williams

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:15

    Could wait a week if you are trading out Hewett, Adams to Williams is ok though

Derek · 23/05/2016 at 12:34

any news on McPherson?

only good thing is that Suns have 3 or their next 4 (plus a Bye) on Sunday. Gives a nice midfield loophole – if the premos get back.

i'd like to get him out this week, but won't have enough cash for a premo upgrade with other trade.

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 12:56

    Going in for scans today or tomorrow Derek. I'd be expecting 8 weeks then probably back in the NEAFL for a bit. I'd plan to move him on

    @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 14:48


    In for scans wont find out more for a few days

      Shenanigans · 23/05/2016 at 16:28

      Loophole option

Joel · 23/05/2016 at 12:37

Thoughts on Coniglio as a POD? Can he keep this form up?

    breakevens · 23/05/2016 at 13:32

    Looked at him extremely closely about a month ago but the fact that he tags put me off him
    A bit expensive as well

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:16

    Does look good, although his string of 100s are from games that GWS have won. Would rather Ward/Neale

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:27

      Well in the 8 games he's played he's only been involved in one loss so hard to judge him on those isn't it?

      Plus he got a 96 in the one loss vs Sydney………………..not terrible.

      He tags but still racks up possessions, he's a gun and owned by 1% of teams. One of the best PODs out there and a surprise of the season, has really broken out.

      Kev · 23/05/2016 at 19:26

      Actually got to watch a gws game on the weekend and Ward is bloody arousing. Hard as a cats head

    Billo · 24/05/2016 at 03:13

    Yep like it.

Jimma · 23/05/2016 at 12:49

Onya Big Carl, another way to brighten the monday. need a bit of advice community, really need a forward downgrade right now and thinking of going brown or adams (if he isnt playing this week) to Trent west, never thought id ever look at him but at 196k he could be a solid option, and will be very useful for that ruck forward swing in the byes as i have both gawn and nicnat, what do you think community to expensive and poor job security, or am i making the right choice? cheers

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:21

    Here's his career……..

    Year Games Ave SC

    2008 6 34.2
    2009 1 12.0
    2010 4 50.0
    2011 6 76.5
    2012 20 76.0
    2013 13 64.3
    2014 10 74.8
    2015 2 40.5
    2016 1 72.0

    Don't like it much.

Herbby · 23/05/2016 at 13:02

Any good cheap defender downgrades ? Any news on Mitch brown from west coast ? is he worth reading in now ?

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 13:06

    maybe this week tom Lee will get another game?

      hedski · 23/05/2016 at 13:16

      Or darcy tucker?
      Freo tho……

        I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 13:33

        You can't pick Darcy Tucker. If he comes back & plays well he will be straight back out the team

          The Mountian · 23/05/2016 at 14:07

          He might be a bit safer with JS with Alex Pearce going down

            BKW · 24/05/2016 at 08:30

            Doubt it – Collins should come in for pierce, like for like

          hedski · 23/05/2016 at 14:10

          More than likely.
          rossy rossy rossy.

          Millie · 23/05/2016 at 14:16

          Same with Lee. The coach doesn't like him. Bailey Williams, note, mid/def is the way to go. Sure, there are a couple of WBD's defenders to return but this kid can play. He is very athletic and is a beautiful kick. My backline is the only line apart from my rucks, that is complete, (Rance, Shaw, Laird, (Injured) McVeigh, Boyd (Suspended) & Docherty (AMT and Brown) so I will not be getting Williams, but, he can play.

            Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:19

            Agreed options are slim down back and can't trust freo and Tom Lee doesn't seem a good pick either.

            Personally wouldn't get any of them but Williams if you have to I guess.

Rob · 23/05/2016 at 13:17

Hey community, this is my team

DEF: Shaw, Docherty, KK, Adams, DBJ, Bryne, (Ruggles, Brown)

MID: GAJ, Danger, Ward, Pendels, Cripps, Libba, Zorko, Parker ( smith, davis, Macpherson)

RUCK: Nic Nat, Gawn ( grimley)

FWD: Franklin, Dahlhaus, Wells, Kerridge, Hall, Kennedy ( Petracca, Menadue)

I have 150K in the bank and i desperatley need to upgrade my defense.

I would like to get rid of Brown and also DBJ as they have basically peaked.

Any suggestions?

    Nick · 23/05/2016 at 15:39

    DBJ – > Enright (POD)
    Brown -> WIlliams and pocket the cash.

Matt · 23/05/2016 at 13:20

Hi community who should I prioritise out of the below?

Simpson (won't seem to drop in price)
Rance (still has a high BE)
McVeigh (cheap but hasn't shown much form yet)
Delidio (highish but achievable BE)
Wingard (has bottomed out and will be an eventual F7)

    breakevens · 23/05/2016 at 13:31

    Wingard for me

    Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 13:45

    Will be cheaper
    Needs a few more weeks

    in that order

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 14:05

    I've had McVeigh since after his first price drop. He's been shit. Doesn't play in the mids. Spends some time Fwd. Not sure what his role is & I'm pretty sure he doesn't either. He's off to D7 ASAP

      Derek · 23/05/2016 at 14:56

      same. got on him too early. sorta had to when Adams went missing

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:18

    Deledio, I like him as a POD this week and you won't find him cheaper anytime soon

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:17

      105 BE could wait on it a week or two?, I'll get him through the byes I reckon, hopefully he doesn't start scoring 130+.

azza · 23/05/2016 at 13:22

if trent west gets named again, should we look at stefan – goldy?

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 14:02

    Normally I wouldn't endorse a Premo sideways trade. But this is an exception. West lining up at the first centre bounce would have been a huge concern for Martin owners.

Liam · 23/05/2016 at 13:50

Thoughts on this trade.
Davis to priddis. I want to keep Davis as he has money to make but I need Priddis.
Also does DBJ have to go.

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 14:07

    DBJ is injured & a chance to miss this week. Also has a BE of 105. Think it's time to move him on

      Billo · 24/05/2016 at 03:17

      If DBJ is injured you could leave him on the bench for a week, not gunna lose any cash. Only if you have other priorities.

Marvin · 23/05/2016 at 13:58

Two qns is it worth a sideways trade nic nat or gawn to goldy? Didn't start with him thinking he would drop which he has done. His price is only going way and there will be a points difference between him and then by years end?

Secondly is bringing in shaw a must this week if you don't quite have the cash or bring in a docherty type now and save up for him? Ps I traded in josh trapson this week so have major regrets already

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 14:19

    Shaw is in ominous form. With a BE of 30 odd it's now or who knows when. He's scoring like a top 5 mid. If there is a way you can get him I'd suggest it's a priority. Josh Trapson sounds a lot like Josh Gibson. He gives a good average. Made up of plenty of good scores & just as many crap ones

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:19

    Don't be an idiot… HOLD

    @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 14:46

    no sideways trades = stupid

    shaw = must have like 10 weeks ago

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 15:03

    you didn't start with Goldy or shaw? your other lines must be good.

    Shaw is a must. he was expensive to start, should have jumped on him a couple of weeks ago. but even now if you can get the coin, he is only $30k more than what people paid at the start of the year

    Goldy not so with a very tough run of games coming up. Gawn and nic nat will do ok.

    Marvin · 23/05/2016 at 17:37

    Cheers fellas. So yes to shaw and no to goldy. I should have jumped on shaw weeks ago but went Parker then someone else. Yes Josh trapson is Gibson. I saw that 191 and knew it massively inflated his average but too the extra cash from not getting docherty. He better smarten up or I'm rage trading

cattery · 23/05/2016 at 13:58

Hey community, what a round! Looking for an upgrade + downgrade in the backline. Thinking DBJ to Bailey Williams (not too sure about JS) and Hartley up to Pittard. With these changes, my team is:

B: Shaw, Doc, Laird, Pittard, AMT, Ruggles (Williams, Brand)

M: Danger, Dependlebury, Parker, Ward, Blicavs, Gaz, Libba, Parish (J Smith, Davis, Keays)

R: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cox)

F: Zorko, Buddy, Hall, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Brown, Wright)

Any thoughts or suggestions?

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:15

    Pittard is a potential burn man and I have doubts on Williams JS moving forward.

    I'm not a big fan of Tom McDonald's scoring this year but for 100k less I'd take him over Pittard in a heartbeat.

The Mountain · 23/05/2016 at 14:02

Can you get Simpson, Boyd or rance instead?

    cattery · 23/05/2016 at 14:19

    If i went to either of those players i would be left completely out of pocket. Rance is may still drop in price, might pick him up in the coming rounds

Hazey · 23/05/2016 at 14:03

Anyone looking at Howe from Collingwood as a Defender? Three tons in a row after apparently moving down back (Pies fans can you confirm?)

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 14:11

    Definitely spending more time in defence. Ballsy pick. He's likely to leave some stains. I don't think he's done much in the past to suggest he's SC relevant. I'd think long & hard about that call.

    Nathan · 23/05/2016 at 14:14

    Fella from my league bought him in this week
    I was shocked as he's top 100
    But seems to be working
    Im not a fan though

    Danners · 23/05/2016 at 14:19

    I did see those stats, a massive risk. Hasn't been too bad a scorer in the past though

Soldiers · 23/05/2016 at 14:12

I've heard Dadswell has been struggling.

Titan · 23/05/2016 at 14:13

Gday community
With my backline as
Shaw simpson laird docherty hurn dbj brown ruggles
And hurn will be traded to rance during byes
Who should be my last 'premo' defender
Looking at boyd but being a little older worries me of rest
Same as bartel
Pittard doesnt have a massive score potential
And mcveigh seems to be really struggling
Who should fill my last spot in defence?
Id prefer rd 14 player to work for the byes
Any suggestions?

    Cameron · 23/05/2016 at 14:20

    Boyd would be best option with round 14 bye but like you said concerned he could miss some games as he is getting on

    @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 14:45

    bottomed out price and is turning around his form

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:12

      Massive call to say his form is turning around with his last 4 scores of 74, 99, 43 and 48.

      Because Melbourne are more competitive this year he's not getting as much ball down back I reckon, not sure it has that much to do with form?

      Could be a shark move though and a low BE of 48 makes it the right time to purchase if game to take the punt.

        @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 15:14

        Im ranked 7451 so i need to make a different trade

        getting him in for DBJ cant make my team worse, but it really could be a huge POD

        just taking a risk trying to get higher in the ranks

          Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:40

          Can see the upside for sure. Considered Jeremy Howe? Some interesting scores the last few weeks of 100+

          Titan · 23/05/2016 at 16:34

          Yeah massive call on Mcdonald
          I dont think my nads are that big
          Im sitting just outside top 1500 with 19 trades before this week
          Massive risk

          Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:52

          Actually scratch Jeremy Howe he's 450k didn't know how expensive he was, could easily be chasing points there.

The Beard · 23/05/2016 at 14:22

So lads have a question.

Who do I take to partner Shaw, Doh, Bartel up top.

Simpson, Laird, Boyd, Rance?

    Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 14:36

    Simpson or Laird for me

    @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 14:44


    such a beast

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:08

      Agree probably a good time to get him although his BE is 132. Maybe wait a week if he gets an 80 could drop a fair bit.

        The Beard · 24/05/2016 at 10:13

        Who you think SS?

        Rance or Simpson or Laird or Boyd?

          Derek · 24/05/2016 at 11:17

          any of them will be good. i already have laird and will be looking at rance to fill my last premo place.

          the two carlton boys are having a great year, but like higgo said, will it last? they also have increased in value from the starting price, so to get them now will means you are at a disadvantage to those who got them cheaper.

          Laird would be my choice, crows draw gets alot easier from now on. Rance as second choice.

          Crows and carlton do have the round 13 bye, so if you were thinking of them, look at round 14 to get them

            The Beard · 24/05/2016 at 11:20

            I have Doh so I'm leaning towards Rance or Laird now.

            I think Rance has the potential to go big more?

              Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:38

              Laird is very consistent though, and could go into the 120-130 type areas of scoring. Rance is really good too so it's a tough call.

              One only you can make!

              Whilst I like Boyd the tooth length worries me and I'm going for league wins, could see the doggies resting him toward the end of the year.

              Also not wanting to part with 550k+ for Simpson (Although do want him by the end of the year), I've already built my defense around a 600k Shaw at the start of the year, also Laird (515k) and bought Doch last week for 512K.

              I'm thinking Rance is a good option for you but he's possibly only 500k next week with a 132 BE.

                The Beard · 24/05/2016 at 11:46

                I'm still tossing up the idea of holding DBJ for D6 (on the bench for a few weeks if Adams is back).

                He was pumping out good scores before injury and if the injury isn't to bad might be worth it.

                I have Shaw, Doh, Bartel and was tossing up on this one. I have pretty much convinced myself the same with Boyd + he is 550k and the boys should be back soon so it should knock his score down.

                Simpson is the obvious target though if I keep that 25-50k I can go Priddis or Gray next week for Libba.

                  The Beard · 24/05/2016 at 11:48

                  Rance seems to pull more higher scores regularly then Laird. That said I have 0 crows.

                  Not sure what to do. Leaning towards Rance over Laird. Some expert convince me LOL.

breakevens · 23/05/2016 at 14:36

Thoughts community
Shaw, Simpson, Bartel, AMT, Adams, Laird (Hartley, Ruggles)
Danger, Parker, Ward, Dustin, Ablett, Libba, Priddis, Smith (Davis, Keays, Gore)
Nic Nat, Gawn (Cox)
Dalhaus Merrett, Kerridge, Wingard, Petracca (Wells, Grimley)

Trades this week
In: Wingard
Out: DBJ

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:57

    Like it.

@wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 14:39

I brought in Wingard last week at his bottomed out price and he rewarded me with a +100 score

this week community here is the hot tip

DBJ too T.McDonald

thanks guys


    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:04

    Have considered him but so risky it's not funny, way more so than Wingard.


    2011 2 74.5
    2012 20 73.2
    2013 17 74.6
    2014 21 70.9
    2015 22 95.9
    2016 9 73.9


    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 15:05

    Hasn't scored a ton since round 1 wheels. Cheap yes but for a reason. Nice heist on wingard

      @wheels_1987 · 23/05/2016 at 15:09

      i am playing the stock market, trying to get my team to full "premo" asap.

      i brought in Murphy and Wingard when they were bottomed out, also got priddis at his bottom price

      all been reasonable selections, hoping to keep the cheap train rolling

      ps. im ranked 7451 overall

        I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 15:35

        Only problem is you might be stuck with blokes you don't want later & don't have enough trades to get rid of them. I've added Boyd Montagna priddis & McVeigh. Only regret is McVeigh so far. This week if he plays I'll be grabbing a fairly priced Laird

        Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:39

        I like the tactic for sure hope it works out for you, I'm way more convinced by your Murphy/Wingard/Priddis picks McDonald having one good season just isn't enough.

David T · 23/05/2016 at 14:47

Back: Shaw, Gibson, Rich, AMT, M. Adams, Laird
(Brown, DBJ)

C: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Libba, Priddis, B.Kennedy, Rockliff, Petracca
(Wells, J. Smith, G. Hewett)

R; Goldy, Nic Nat

F: Zorko, Montagna, Hall, Kerridge, De Goey, Barlow
(Menadue, Cox)

21 Trades | $46,400

What trades should I make? Was thinking to jump on Hopper this week and Mathieson next as they have nice bye rounds for rookies, although I doubt Mathieson will have peaked at his bye. Unfortunately I can't get in both R. Gray and Hopper this week if I want to trade out DBJ.

So I was thinking…

DBJ >>> Simpson
Wells/Barlow/Rockliff OR Kerridge if they are all named this week >>> Hopper

Gray + Mathieson next week for Menadue + De Goey/Kerridge/Smith.

Anyone I should be considering in place of Simpson? I think I need a player from his bye round for my backline… Considered Docherty but think he is overpriced and will fall when Carlton start losing a few more games. Simmo is too consistent. Figured I could get Rance after his bye round if he is cheap and then consider whether Rich should become Boyd/Bartel after their bye rounds.

Saundo · 23/05/2016 at 14:48

Is it too early to trade kerridge or Kennedy?

    David T · 23/05/2016 at 14:50

    Kerridge will be a consideration for me this week as I look to cull rookies who have the first bye. However, I think both of those two can be held quite comfortably until their bye and maybe beyond it.

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 14:58

    this year it is hard enough to make cash, let alone trading a good one too soon. squeeze every cent out.

    Stevo · 23/05/2016 at 15:19

    No, sit tight on these Sando. Trades are gold.

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:33

    Kennedy last 3, 89, 77, 81 scoring fine, still making money.

    Kerridge last 3, 82, 67, 102 hold.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 24/05/2016 at 13:41

    You are most likely asking this question because they have one of the most highest break even out of the popular rookies and you want to bring in priddis/gray. If thats the case, trade out Kennedy and keep Kerridge because Kerridge is more capable of hitting the ton.

Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:02

Docherty's scores in losses this year.

Richmond – 118
Sydney – 76
GCS – 116
Dogs – 104
North – 135

Don't see him dropping off due to losses.

    David T · 23/05/2016 at 15:06

    Thanks for the reply. Just see Doc as more likely to put in some bad scores than Simpson and less trustworthy overall (more an endorsement of Simpson than a knock on Docherty). Might look to bring him in instead of Rance after their bye or as an upgrade on Rich eventually.

    What trades would you make this week with my team?

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:38

      Yep Docherty is a little more of an unknown, seems like his breakout year though and he does a lot of kicking out. He's a little pricey at the moment I wish I got him at 487k (when ironically I was telling others to get him)

      He then smashed out a 144 and a 135 (luckily I got him last week for 512k)

      This week I'd get rid of DBJ although you may be forced to deal with Wells and/or Barlow too. A lot will come down to team selections this week for many coaches I think.

      I think your proposed trades are sound.

Tommo09 · 23/05/2016 at 15:13

Menadue and Gresham for Priddis and Hopper
Ranked 2500

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:57

    I'll be taking Mathieson next week and possibly Trengove the week after so no room for an expensive rookie at this time of the year.

    If it fits your structure and future downgrade plans then go for it.

Stevo · 23/05/2016 at 15:17

Great work Big Carl. So now it gets serious. I have 20 trades left & $53k. Have J.Smith at M8, DBJ M5, Menadue F8

Trade priorities?

Out – DBJ, Menadue, M. Brown, Gresham, MacPherson.
In – Montagna, Docherty, Hopper, Priddis, M.Cox.

Want to open DPP swings so thinking Gresham &
Menadue to Hopper & M.Cox.

Help Community!

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:31

    Cox sailed ages ago.

      Stevo · 23/05/2016 at 15:51

      Yes realize this however he is DPP swing so tempted to have him there. Menadue stopped making cash too.

        Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 16:03

        too late mate

          Stevo · 23/05/2016 at 16:14

          Yep looks like it could be.
          What about DBJ & MacPherson to Stretch & Hopper?

            Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:49

            Both risky picks.

              Stevo · 23/05/2016 at 17:06

              Ok, tough work! How about J. Smith & DBJ to Priddis & B.Williams. Gets my mid to 7 X premo plus Libba.

                Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:55

                You missed the boat on smith too!

                  Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:23

                  Think Stevo is saying to trade out Smith, but no that's not a good idea either!

breakevens · 23/05/2016 at 15:20

Will Wells play this week

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:30

    If he doesn't I'll probably trade him.

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 18:11

    I doubt it. They said they will be very cautious.

Pom · 23/05/2016 at 15:20

DBJ to Williams (doggies), def/mid.

Leaves Tippa and Adams left in def for one premo spot on field. Premos being Shaw, Doc, Laird, Gibson, McGovern.

Looking to maybe bring in JJ Kennedy up forward for brown/ hall . Or just cut losses on Stef Martin and bring in Goldy?

Most rookies still have achievable BE. I'm just going to leave menapoo on bench, hasn't made enough coin and seems to just be sitting around that price if he keeps playing averagely, but at least playing.

Tommo09 · 23/05/2016 at 15:33

Similar to most
Menadue and Gresham to Priddis and Hopper

@winterjames5 · 23/05/2016 at 15:34

my team is: 14 trades left with $41,200 in the kitty

DEF- Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Enright, Tipungwuti, Byrne (DBJ, Ruggles)
MID- Dangerfield, Hannebery, Ward, Ablett, Shiel, Priddis, Ziebell, Lewis (Hewett, Davis, Gresham)
RCK- Gawn, Nic Nat (Lorensch)
FWD- Martin, Hall, Kerridge, DeGoey, Petracca, Benken (Menaspud, J.smith – who is a 102k non playing rookie)

was thinking of getting rid of DBJ for Williams giving me about 250k for an upgrade on either Menaspud to a 475k FWD or can afford any FWD if a offload Benken or kerridge

advice on what i should do with my team community

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 15:43

    Probably just do the downgrade and then next week go bang bang to 2 really good premos over 500K that you want.

    Deadly · 23/05/2016 at 17:02

    Save your trades

    The GOAT · 23/05/2016 at 17:05

    don't trade

    CoachDamo · 23/05/2016 at 17:24

    Boyd and Adams back in this week, possibly Suckling too – it wouldn't surprise me if Williams doesn't play this week.

    Wait on Kerridge and Kennedy.

    Perhaps hold for a week.

      Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:53

      14 trades left? Wow? Save trades.

Darren · 23/05/2016 at 15:44

Hey community, 19 trades, started ranked 614, DO I TRADE GAWN TO GOLDY, will have made over 100k on this trade based on current values but i have not made one sideways yet and very hesitant to break this golden rule team looks like this:

Shaw, DBJ, Rance, Bartel, Dea, tippa, (hartley, brown)
Danger, peddles, ward, sloane, selwood, priddis, libba, wines, (smith, mcpherson, dunk)
NN, Gawn( cox )
zorko, martin, greene, barlow, hall, kerridge, (petracca, menadue)

What is gawn carrying, any intel appreciated!!

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 15:49

    Soon as you trade Gawn he will score 170. That's how's the SC gods operate. Hold

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:55


    SD6_ · 23/05/2016 at 23:29

    Focus on getting to full premium

    Tommo · 24/05/2016 at 10:23

    Get to full premo first, then start doing sideways trades if you must.

Tommo09 · 23/05/2016 at 15:49

I don't know whether to go Gresham and Menadue for Priddis and Hopper
Gresham and Menadue for Hopper and Williams

I could even get Williams next when I get rid of DBJ and Brown

    Tommo09 · 23/05/2016 at 15:50

    Also have MacPherson

I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 15:54

Just a word of warning regarding Hopper. In his first NAB game he played as a tagger & scored about 30. If they identify a player that could use a run with don't be surprised if it's Hopper. For that reason he's scratched from my list. His price also slows the upgrade process

    Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 16:02

    Pretty sure that tag role was just an experiment for the young dog. He didn't really fulfil the role that game, so I'm not fussed.

      I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 16:16

      I think at this time of the year at his price you need a 80+ AV. Just can't see it happening

        Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:47

        They have a reasonably tough few rounds ahead of them too.

        Crows at AO, Geelong at SS, Sydney at Spotless.

    Stevo · 23/05/2016 at 17:30

    Like the logic. Was going the Hopper path too and agree this would be a stepping stone move.
    Initial plan was MacPherson & DBJ to B.Williams & Hopper.

    Now considering J.Smith & DBJ to Priddis & B.Williams.

    Steeeve · 23/05/2016 at 18:20

    I just like his JS more than Bailey Williams. Both risky JS but Williams is only in because of injuries

Liam · 23/05/2016 at 15:55

Is it to early to trade Davis.
Looking to trade Davis to Priddis. Or I could trade DBJ to Rance.

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 15:58

    Davis has a BE of 19. Hold him. DBJ to Rance sounds nice

      Liam · 23/05/2016 at 20:31

      So miss out on Priddis ?

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:07

    Rance projected to lose 20k (132BE), Priddis set to gain 20k (BE 66)

    Trading Davis now for Priddis isn't a terrible move.

Jess_coach · 23/05/2016 at 16:12

Is 577,000 too much to pay for zorko?

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 16:18

    It's a lot isn't it. But he doesn't look like dropping off. Playing the Hawks this week. I'd hold off for this one. Last year I picked him up for 400 when no one had him & he went on a tear. But I can't see that happening this year

      Hector · 23/05/2016 at 16:34

      Gee you a wiz aren't you mate.

        Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:51


    CoachDamo · 23/05/2016 at 17:20

    I've been so close to getting him the past 2 weeks. I'm going to wait though and look at other options.

      Jess_coach · 23/05/2016 at 17:33

      Good points guys. Im almost full premo with only 18 trades left, so might hold off until the byes anyway. Best idea looks to be to bring in the bargains as they come along. Fingers crossed Zorko comes down at some stage

    Stevo · 23/05/2016 at 17:34

    While it's top end, he's not slowing down and would be a top 6 fwd at this point. I got him last week, and he still finds the ball in a losing team.

The Ranger · 23/05/2016 at 16:21

Hehehe…I've spent the whole day trading out Menaspud.
Sometimes with intent, to a serious consideration.
Sometimes I just do it to a random nobody that I have no intention of trading in. Just for kicks.
It's almost as good as trading out Griffen was last year.
Bye, bye Menaspud!

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 16:35

    I had the choice of trading Barlow to Zorko & keeping Spudadue & having 6 Fwds. Or trading Spudadue to Montagna & taking the donut. I can't stand Spudadue & munched the donut. It was a joyous moment getting rid of him. I know how you feel

    bUCKET__ · 23/05/2016 at 16:58

    Traded him to Macpherson last round. Felt very good, highly recommended! Even an injured Macpherson is more useful than Menadue as a loophole.

      I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 17:21

      Wait a week bucket & turn macperson into Mathieson

MATT · 23/05/2016 at 16:34

thoughts on parish to hopper, byrne jones to zorko or docerty

Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 16:44

What do people think about trading Libba down to say Trengrove and leave Trengrove at the M8 spot?

Obviously it comes with a high risk high reward

The kid can play, everyone knows that, but can he score well enough to take up that spot and if it works and he can score well, that 350k you saved on the downgrade can be used elsewhere.

Anyone ballsy enough?

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:45

    Not this week that's for sure.

      Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 16:51

      not this week no way haha, but when hes on the bubble?

        Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 16:54

        He'll be locked in for me on the bubble unless he scores a couple of 40's.

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 16:52

    Trengrove hasn't played much footy in the last few years. When he's on the bubble you could downgrade a fat rookie to him. But downgrading a premium weakens your team

    Matho · 23/05/2016 at 17:30

    You must be a Demons supporter

      Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 17:58

      didnt read my name did you?

        I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 20:09

        Clearly not lol

    Mayniac · 23/05/2016 at 20:36

    Thinking of doing it with Hopper! Maybe a little riskier but need the dosh.

    EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:18

    Laugh a minute from you tonite Mick. Why do you persist in trying to make Bolton look like a fool?

    Tommo · 24/05/2016 at 10:29

    While i will almost certainly picking up trengove, downgrading Libba to him is essentially weakening your team. People brought in Libba to either use him as a stepping stone to ultra premo or keep him as an M8. This trade will be weakening your team and costing you 2 trades.

      Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:40

      Agreed won't be trading Libbe myself I rate him too highly. Sure he only got an 82 last week but it was at Spotless vs GWS who are on fire.

Micky · 23/05/2016 at 16:54

Community, any ideas for trades this week, ive got 17 trades with 158k in the bank
def- shaw, laird, simmo, pittard, DBJ, hartley,(brown, ruggles)
mid- danger, pendles, parker, mitchell, shiel, priddis, libberatore, keays,( davis, macpherson, dunkley)
ruck- gawn, nic nat (goertz)
fwd- zorko, martin, montagna, barlow, hall, kerridge, (petracca, mcgovern)

    Campbell · 23/05/2016 at 17:17

    Not sure about who to get for his him but definitely get rid of DBJ

      Tommo09 · 23/05/2016 at 19:18

      Maybe to Docherty if you can

    Jordan · 23/05/2016 at 18:34

    With 17 trades left I'd say, "Go easy on the Pepsi Fuller", but if you must trade, DBJ to Bailey Williams, and chuck Brown on the field. You should have about 358k left and just hold on the trades for when someone is injured or your rookies are ready for culling.

Campbell · 23/05/2016 at 17:09

Hi community, got 16.9k and 16 trades, here is my team.
Shaw Rance Docherty Yeo McDonald-Tipungwuti Byrne-Jones // Adams Broad
Selwood Shiel R Gray Parker Liberatore Parish J Smith Keays // Ablett MacPherson Schoenfeld
Gawn S Martin // Cox
Montagna D Martin Franklin Kerridge B Kennedy Petracca // Wells Hall
Was thinking of trading Byrne-Jones and parish but I'm not sure who for.
Community plz help by replying with some possible trade options.

    Tommo · 24/05/2016 at 10:32

    Well, when i saw your 16.9k warchest, i instantly thought double downgrade, but you honestly don't have enough trades left. Maybe downgrade DBJ to B Williams (Risky JS) and next week, go Parish down to Mathieson.

The Weapon · 23/05/2016 at 17:18

bit of a dilemma, thinking of doing DBJ to williams but not sure what to do with my second trade I can trade menadue to hopper or priddis or hold I have 320k in the bank. Your thoughts would be appreciated community.

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 17:58

    If you want Priddis, this is the week. Low BE playing at HOME vs Suns

      Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:35

      Menapoo to Hopper is a horrible trade! No value

    EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 21:53

    320k in bank.
    DBJ>Bwilliams= 200k=520k in bank.
    Menadue=22?k Total =740k plus.
    If you haven't got all of the top 10 get one more.

Kevdog · 23/05/2016 at 17:22

Hi community here is my team

DEF: Shaw, Simpson, KKolo, Brown, DBJ, Hartley (Adams, Broad)
MID: Danger, Hanners, Jelwood, Shiel, Steven, Libba, Smith, Keays (Ablett, Macpherson, Davis)
RUC: Gawn, Martin (Currie)
FWD: Dusty, Zorko, Barlow, Hall, Kerridge, Petracca (Wells, Tippa)

got 18 trades and 121k left, any ideas for possible trades ? suggestions would be greatly appreciated !!

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:34

    Shore up the DEF

Tiges · 23/05/2016 at 17:22

16 trades with $90k left in the bank.
I'm considering downgrading DBJ to Lee/Tucker and banking the $200k and getting my war chest ready for the bye rounds..
Taking a slower approach to trading next few rounds but I've got enough cash generation flowing. Also eyeing off a fallen Neale, Pendlebury, Congilio in a few weeks if I get lucky!





mfawcett77 · 23/05/2016 at 17:26

Heroes for my week were definitely my new trades of Barlow & Adams to Dusty Martin and Docherty:)

    I N Pieman · 23/05/2016 at 17:46

    Nice pick ups

      The Ranger · 23/05/2016 at 18:40

      My hero for the week was Aaron Young.
      Never ever thought I'd say that…

        Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 23:06

        He's done bloody well the last few weeks, I had my doubts on him and got Jarrad Lyons for a similar price at around the same time.

        Lyons scored pretty well but got dropped, he's back now though and hopefully stays.

        Guess we'll see which 240k player works out best!

      mfawcett77 · 23/05/2016 at 18:54


    Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 20:10

    Well no

mfawcett77 · 23/05/2016 at 17:30

Bit unsure what to do this week.

Shaw, Docherty, Gibson, LAird, Tippa, M. Brown (Wagner, Ruggles)
Dangerfield, Parker, Sloane, T. Mitchell, Sidebottom, Lewis, Adams, Rockliff (Hewett, Smith, Macpherson)
Gawn, NicNat (Grimley)
Martin, Merret, Hall, Kerridge, Wells, Petracca (McGovern, Menadue)

Have 135,000 to play with. Know Menadue has to go but who else. Wouldn't mind getting some extra help in the backline or maybe upgrade in the forward line?

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 17:55

    McPherson will be out for a while and I'd be worried about Wells.

    Consider Wells and McPherson >>> Hopper and Montagna

      David T · 23/05/2016 at 18:01

      Not sure he can afford that.

        mfawcett77 · 23/05/2016 at 18:58

        lol, short by 14,000

    mfawcett77 · 23/05/2016 at 18:53

    can afford to go Menadue and Wagner to Rance and Bailey Williams leaving me 15,800 for next trades. What's Williams B/E? Due for a decent price rise? And cheers guys:)

Mitch · 23/05/2016 at 17:31

Stefan martin to Goldy?
martin's scoring looks to be affected with west playing

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:01

    BE of 66 now is the time if ever.

Scotty · 23/05/2016 at 17:38

Zach Merrett or Buddy?
Also for those with Kennedy, are you chucking the C on him for the game against GC?

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:32


John · 23/05/2016 at 17:52

Who should i start out of benken and petracca.

    Jordan · 23/05/2016 at 18:37

    The Young Blessing, Petracca.

      Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:32

      Seriously??? That was a Question?

    EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 21:56

    pfft. go back to the dreamteam forum

deccas · 23/05/2016 at 17:55


Average Joe · 23/05/2016 at 18:32

Docherty still viable trade-in option at 550k, or has that boat sailed? Otherwise can trade in players like zorko, pridda, zerrett etc

    Kev · 23/05/2016 at 19:31

    There was a big thing of not paying over 500k for a defender in the preseason. Personally I stick by that. Plenty of value picks elsewhere if you're looking at upgrading

      Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 20:05

      defenders this year are exceptional.

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:36

      Like Shaw? So I'm assuming you won't get him? Hope he doesn't get to 700k………..wait I hope he does because I'll get so any good scores out of him.

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:42

    I'm not a big fan of paying that much for him, at the moment I'd go for Priddis and hope the good defenders drop in price.

    Can't see Shaw, Doch and Simmo dropping much though at this rate.

    The other players you can get cheaper have been inconsistent, what you pay is what you get in the backline at the moment.

Ryan · 23/05/2016 at 18:33

Bring in Parker or Deledio this week? Or neither?

    Average Joe · 23/05/2016 at 18:58

    Parker's solid, but I would wait a bit longer on lids. If he gets a good score he won't go up, and you get another look at him

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 19:30

    Lids might drop in price a bit.

    Richmond have R13 bye. He will be in my team Round 14 at home to Lions

      Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 21:59

      Same here.

Francis · 23/05/2016 at 18:36

Trade M. Brown or DBJ?

    Average Joe · 23/05/2016 at 18:38


    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:30

    hmmmm DJB BE 106 M. Brown BE 76 you decide?

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 21:58

    DBJ he'll probably miss this week anyway with the knee?

    EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:00

    Francis you should back off on the meth a bit mate. One rookie bloke is broken for at least 3 weeks the other one is still getting a game and can be switched fwd at your whim. Trade the broken one because they don't score if they don't play.

      @an3vilmonk3y · 23/05/2016 at 22:30

      They also don't lose value, can be handy if you need to patch up elsewhere.

        Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:34

        Then next week you get another injury, and then the following another. Snowball effect.

        Have to make a decision based on whether they are a keeper or not and DBJ is done and dusted, injured and a high BE.

          @an3vilmonk3y · 23/05/2016 at 22:42

          Too right, then people end up where they were last week with doughnuts on the field. Just saying if the boat is sinking, plug the biggest hole first.

            Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:59

            Spot on.

Schlong · 23/05/2016 at 18:39

is robbie Gray a nice buy at the moment ?

    Average Joe · 23/05/2016 at 18:52

    Wait a 2 more weeks and he will probably be at his lowest price, but having said that he's still a good pick up now

    Kev · 23/05/2016 at 19:29

    Hold one more week if you can. His b.e is 136

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:28

    BE to high wait he will drop lower.

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:58

    No wait 2 or 3 weeks when his BE drop. Not even close to breaking his BE of 136 he going to drop even more

    EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:01

    He's up there with Icon energy

    Saundo · 24/05/2016 at 09:43

    He could hit his breakevens this week! I'm putting the VC on him !

      Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:42

      Agreed he could, but on the off chance he only gets an 80 or so he will lose 20k+ so people trading him in may as well wait.

      He'll get a 150 because I said that.

        Saundo · 24/05/2016 at 12:35

        Ha Ha yeah the way this year's going !

    Steeeve · 24/05/2016 at 14:28

    I was half hoping he'd get rubbed out. Hoping his price bottoms out in a fortnight. My midfield cows are still fattening quite a lot! Longer the better, but I'm grabbing him. Purposely passed on Priddis in favour of Gray.

Sarah · 23/05/2016 at 19:09

Is b Williams must downgrade option with brown dbj in the backline? He's job security is shaky but when are we going to get a def rookie to present again this season? Most of them have played a t lee doesn't look likley….

    Davo · 23/05/2016 at 19:25

    You could try Oscar McDonald $155,400 on the bubble defender as well, though I wouldn't be too confident there either.

    Boltons Blues · 23/05/2016 at 19:34

    there wont be many more rookies coming through, if you dont take the risk (ive done it) then you'll struggle to find a rookie option, unless of course Tucker or Lee come back which i cant see happening anytime soon

      Derek · 23/05/2016 at 21:05

      I just noticed BWilliams is DPP. He is a must. Bartel, rich, McVeigh, smith, Yeo etc all in backline with DPP. Williams will become the perfect swinger with D7/M9 loophole even if he doesn't play.

      Great to cash in a rookie defender, and then later will swing forward when need to upgrade a midfield rookie to last premium defender, Williams will then swing to midfield and comple the DPP swing set. Nice

      EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:15

      lol. Thanks nostradamus I was going to wait for the injuries, suspensions and upgrades to happen naturally but according to you there wont be any more. You should be malthouse's blues

        Derek · 23/05/2016 at 22:34

        There are going to be plenty, that is why you need to have the DPP swing sets in place.

          Leeds17 · 24/05/2016 at 05:58

          Wouldn't that mean bring Williams into midfield?

            Derek · 24/05/2016 at 10:41

            yes, for the run home, assuming at full premium, having Williams in the midfield as a donut lets you loophole in the midfield and defense. i will have BSmith at D7. Also have Rich, Bartel, McVeigh with DPP who could swing to the midfield if there are injury concerns or loophole possibilities.

              Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:43

              Yep that's the other thing I like about Williams.

Mika · 23/05/2016 at 19:17

Hey everyone, hope the SuperCoach gods are treating you well thus far!
Would love if I could get some advice on trades this week, like priorties and such….
I have 19 Trades and 237k in a he bank

    Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 20:10

    Get rid of mills. Shouldve been thrown out a few weeks ago. Try and pick up Neale, Simpson, Docherty or perhaps Zorko this week

cattery · 23/05/2016 at 19:34

Is mcdonald worth the risk?

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:26

    which McDonald?

Tommy · 23/05/2016 at 19:36

Beside Hopper, are there any rooks on the bubble this week?
Just not sure i can justify that much coin for young Jacob with Steel and Griffen nipping at his heels.

    Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 19:48

    hopper is easily the best option. Williams second.

      Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:25

      Hopper to expensive I'm not touching, for his price IMO he should score higher but could be wrong not taking the chance.

        Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 21:26

        There isn't going to be that money downgrade options in the future rounds. Spending an extra 70 odd k or so is worth it in this case IMO

          EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:05

          The druggers still have about 100 rookies they're allowed to upgrade as penalty for cheating.
          Young long will get a game or 5 very soon and at 102k is perfect dpp downgrade.
          Relying on a rookie for M7,8 at round 10 is beginner stuff hopper isn't scoring enough for a post round 10 onfield mid so why waste the cash

Banga · 23/05/2016 at 19:40

Should we be keeping Kerridge and De Goey up until the byes? Should we maybe be keeping them throughout the byes?

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:23

    Kerridge just scored 103 and a BE of 58 why would you even think about trading him now?

      Banga · 23/05/2016 at 21:26

      No intention of trading now, i was thinking maybe in the coming weeks.

    Nathan · 23/05/2016 at 21:33

    Not sure in de goey but kerridge you need to hlod on too as his scoring it solid
    So id lose some other rookies over them

      @winterjames5 · 23/05/2016 at 21:36

      i will be holding onto de goey for a while looks like he has found a bit of form

Clarky · 23/05/2016 at 19:40

Simpson or Docherty?

    Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 19:47


      Clarky · 23/05/2016 at 19:51

      Ideally yes, but I plan on getting one this week, and 1 during the byes

        Lachie · 23/05/2016 at 21:25

        Then it doesn't matter too much. I'd probably go docherty first perhaps, since he's a bit cheaper and has the 147 and 137 in his price calc.

          Clarky · 23/05/2016 at 21:30

          Yeah thats true, but at the same time, will Simpson score better when Carlton start losing badly?

            Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 21:55

            Why would you think that? It's Simpson who has done worse in the losses.

            EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 21:57

            I reckon simmo is a safer 100 clarkey

              Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:19

              Yeah Simpson has the longer history of consistent scoring.

              Docherty kicks in a lot and is in ripping form, both great choices at the moment it seems.

Tommo09 · 23/05/2016 at 19:49

Def: Shaw, Laird, Docherty, Tippa, DBJ, Brown (Adams, Byrne)
Mid: Danger, GAJ, Parker, Pendles, Hannebery, Libba, Smith, Petracca (Keays, Gresham, MacPherson
Ruc: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
Fwd: Martin, Franklin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Kennedy, Menadue)

Thinking Gresham and Menadue to Priddis and Hopper/Williams
$345k and 19 trades left
Scored 2412 last weekend and am ranked 2500

Miller · 23/05/2016 at 20:23

Who should i get Docherty or Simpson

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:21

    Which ever one you can afford I have both!

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:18

    They are both practically the same price!

Adam · 23/05/2016 at 20:29

Team is currently:
Def: Shaw, Boyd, Bartel, Rich, Byrne-Jones, Byrne, Brown, Lee.
Mids: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Pendlebury, Parker, Ablett, Shiel, Lyons, Smith, Hewett, McPherson, Davis.
Rucks: Goldstein, Naitunai, Wyatt.
Fwds: Zorko, Montagna, Barlow, Hall, Kerridge, DeGoey, Kennedy, Petracca.
Ranked 175. 16 trades left and 105,200 remaining salary.
Several options I am contemplating:
1. DeGoey to Priddis due to Priddis’s low breakeven and easy run of games.
2. Byrne-Jones and Brown out and K Simpson and D Tucker/S Collins in. Will leave me with around 66,300 remaining in salary.
3. DeGoey to Tippett for ruck cover if Goldy/Nic Nat injured/rested later on in the year and while his breakeven is low.
4. DeGoey and Brown out for K Simpson and R Mathieson and 149,200 remaining in salary
5. DeGoey and Byrne-Jones out for D Martin and D Tucker/S Collins and 159,400 remaining in salary.
Which option would you recommend.

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:17

    Don't trade De Goey on a 45 BE, he's just found form with a 105 and 89, set to go up 20k again this week.

    I'd do number 2, but Tucker plays for Freo so no job security. Also S Collins plays for freo so no job security.

    Unless you mean K Collins from the doggies in which no way, scored a measly 17 points last round and will be first to go once they get defensive stocks back up.

Dean · 23/05/2016 at 20:55

I’m seriously contemplating trading out Brown to Williams & DBJ to Shaw this week.

However in all honesty my real concern is Williams JS community?

By doing those TWO trades my team will be:

DEF: Shaw, Rance, Rich, Laird, Adams, AMT (Hartley, Williams)
MID: Danger, Hanners, Pendles, Ward, GAJ, Libba, Wines, Smith (Kennedy, MacPherson, Dunkley)
RUCK: Goldy, NicNat (Wyatt)
FWD: Martin, Motlop, Hall, Rioli, Wells, Barlow (Cox, Petracca)

This leaves me with $60,000

Other option would be to trade Kennedy to Hopper & DBJ to Williams which will generate $547,800
I think Hopper will be awesome but his price is to high I feel only because Shaw has a very low B/E of only 36 so I think now is the last time to get him for those such as myself who missed out on getting him in round (five) for $548k

If I do trade out Brown & DBJ this week, this leaves me with players such as Hartley, AMT, Smith, Petracca, Kennedy & Cox as step up's which should be just enough – Although I will keep Cox I think.
I’m thinking of bringing the two Carlton defenders in after their BYE (R14) and bring in a premium midfield either prior or after there bye round.

Your thoughts community on anything stated above will be greatly appreciated. Good luck to ALL.

    Tommo · 23/05/2016 at 21:05

    Personally, i wouldnt get rid of Kennedy yet. Scoring well last few weeks and still has money to make. There are players like Mathieson and Trengove that will be on the bubble in coming weeks, that i reckon you could downgrade to. Hopper is too expensive for mine.

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:11

    I'd do the Brown+DBJ trade to williams and shaw.

      Tiges · 23/05/2016 at 23:03

      Agreed. I'm eyeing off Mathieson and Trengove! Plans up to and including the byes look great.
      Midfield looks strong, a few of my premo's have bit dying off lately… needing to get Neale/Pendles in for a bit more consistency.

Campbell · 23/05/2016 at 21:18

16.9k and 16 trades
Shaw Rance Docherty Yeo McDonald-Tipungwuti Byrne-Jones // Adams Broad
Selwood Shiel R Gray Parker Liberatore Parish J Smith Keays // Ablett MacPherson Schoenfeld
Gawn S Martin // Cox
Montagna D Martin Franklin Kerridge B Kennedy Petracca // Wells Hall
Was thinking of trading Byrne-Jones and parish but I'm not sure who get for them
Who would you recommend?

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:09

    Williams and Priddis.

    EinsteinsSperm · 23/05/2016 at 22:10

    DBJ to Bailey Williams Parish to Priddis?

    Pjay · 24/05/2016 at 00:01

    I recommend you hold and try to conserve trades. 16 isn't enough at this stage.

      azza · 24/05/2016 at 00:44

      doesnt matter if the trades take you towards full premo

        Pjay · 24/05/2016 at 10:31

        In my opinion you should be making your trades work for you during the bye period, and become the mythical "full premo" in round 13, by possibly using 3 trades per round.

        Derek · 24/05/2016 at 11:03

        you can actually get to full premium too soon. to be at full premium your team value needs to be around $14mil. the way the rookies have gone this year, that is taking longer than usual. if you think you are at full premo and your team value is only around $13mil, your definition of a "Premium' maybe questionable.

Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:18

Did JJK wife have their baby yet?

    Smote · 23/05/2016 at 23:14

    He can really split the middle of anything that JJK!

      Blueth · 24/05/2016 at 15:14


        Papsmear · 24/05/2016 at 20:48


Warwick Capper · 23/05/2016 at 21:18

Job security of crocker?

    Papsmear · 23/05/2016 at 21:19

    not good

    Blueth · 24/05/2016 at 15:14

    ship has sailed my friend

Rocksta · 23/05/2016 at 22:08

Finally got rid of Menaspew!

Boy did that feel good!

    Youngster · 24/05/2016 at 12:52

    Gave him the boot last week. Not looking back!

Luke · 23/05/2016 at 22:11

Is Bailey Williams job security good enough to bring in for DBJ?

    Derek · 23/05/2016 at 22:28

    no, but we might have to take the risk

    Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 22:30

    Is any defender rook though?

    Have to free up money using the backline rookies somehow.

    I'd take whichever defender rookie on the bubble is named this week.

Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 23:03

Trade DBJ to Williams, Menadue to Priddis.

Southern S · 23/05/2016 at 23:19

Had Pendles locked in and Kade Simpson.

Then I went and looked in the mirror and muttered the words 'Not locking in Priddis for 500k this week'

I swear there was a bright flash of lightning but I looked outside and no storm (and as far as I know nobody had spiked my last cuppa),

The sc gods had spoken of that I was sure.

In comes Williams and Priddis.

Can't really go wrong with those trades even if Williams gets dropped soonish I had Adams, Hartley (traded), DBJ (traded), Byrne and AMT back there in a really lean back back line.

A downgrade is a must right now for my backline and Priddis is a no brainer for 500k, he's never going to be cheaper lets face it.

I can get Pendles and Simpson in the byes and at worst they'll probably be a fraction more, but more than likely less or about the same.

Goodnight everybody may the gods smile upon thee.

    Rocksta · 23/05/2016 at 23:46

    Southern, I made the exact same two trades earlier tonight.
    As you say, simply can't let Priddis go at $502K. Also cashed in Wagner at $291K as his BE was 75. Even better, it allowed me to upgrade Menaspew to Priddis.

    Not sure on Williams' JS, but he's the best current option, and isn't a bad player from what I've seen.

      Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:10

      Yep I actually liked the look of him and I reckon Beveridge would too.

    fedd · 24/05/2016 at 00:08

    isn't your def worse withwilliams and no simpson 2 weeks time Williams will be gone may as well got McPherson or fyfe in they will play the same amount of games as Williams

      Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:12

      It is but fingers crossed I get Laird back this week.

      So with a defense of Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Laird and using two of AMT/Byrne/Adams/Williams I think I can score pretty well.

      (AMT 96 last week, Byrne 112)

      Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:15

      Who else would you suggest I trade in though? I figure if I have one reliable rookie on my backline bench I will be ok.

      Because Williams is a mid type player he can easily come in for the doggies to replace other injuries, unlike someone like Tom Lee. He looks to play with some confidence and take the game on.

    Derek · 24/05/2016 at 10:31

    pendles has the round 13 bye. bring him him round 14.

      Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:16

      Yep perfect and will cull Lyons, Keays or Smith by then.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/05/2016 at 11:51

      Yep agree. Pendles is too pricey at the moment. Unless he keeps scoring 140 plus a week price should go down by the byes or at least remain where it is. A lower score this week would be ideal so I can grab him after his bye.

fedd · 24/05/2016 at 00:02

two short of full premium.Have Petracca and Hopper at m7 and 8.if over the next 2 weeks I trade 4 fattened rooks who are going well such as AMT good for 80.then I wtll have a bench of 4bailey types no js and good for 50. JUST DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO GET TO FULL PREMIUM/at the expense of 4 guaranteed 80 perforners with good JS

    Derek · 24/05/2016 at 10:29

    what does your team look like

Iamme · 24/05/2016 at 00:25

Hello community Is Weitering to Docherty and DBJ for Wells via DPP leaving me with 20,700 in the bank and 17 trades a good idea, or should I hold off altogether this week?

Thoughts much appreciated.

Streep Train · 24/05/2016 at 01:28

Tom McDonald. Whats happening? Probably gonna bring him at D7. Jarrod McVeigh as my swingable D8.

Roger · 24/05/2016 at 03:09

Hey community, really need some advice, big stumped.
Def: Shaw, Simpson, Laird, Tippa, Hartley, Brown (Byrne Jones, Brand)
Mid: Dangerfield, Hannerbry, Pendlebury, Parker, Ward, Ablett, Libba, Petracca(Davis, Smith, Mccpherson)
Rk: Gawn, Martin (Grimley)
Fwd : Zorko, Montagna, Franklin. Hall, Greene, Kerridge (Short, Cox)
I have around 217k in the bank.
My option I have at e moment is downgrading Byrne Jones to Williams then trading brown for Howe. I know Howe is a big risk, but 3 scores in a row over 100 plus owned by less then 1.5 % of teams and it would still leave me with 270k.
Because I can't really seem what else there is to do.
Petracca : way to earl to cull.
Kerridge : maybe but still has a decent break even
Smith : still making more money.
Short/Mccpherson : if I trade them to a premium, I'll have barely any money left over.
Now if I trade brown in defence : I can get anyone but here is the problem.
Docherty/ Boyd / Rance are all priced too high Rance has a high BE.
Bartel is 498 but has a high BE.
Gibson is unrealibe as shown by last week.
Can anyone give some advice please.

    Jim · 24/05/2016 at 09:40

    Hey Roger, agree that DBJ has to go this week, but brown doesn't, could reach his be of 75. If you don't want to upgrade to a premium this week (Docherty's be is 50, projected to score 119 and go up 30.5k) maybe just downgrade to Williams this week, and spend the $ next week (Rance projected to score 99 and drop 14.6k)

Tommy · 24/05/2016 at 07:20

Hey guys
after this weeks trades, i will be left with 18 trades. Is this is a good number to be on around this time? i have 6 spots left until i have full premo. I am concerned that i might be running a little low on trades.

    Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 11:45

    That sounds ok considering the carnage, just have to take it nice and easy from here on and make good moves.

Tommo09 · 24/05/2016 at 07:55

Get rid of 2 out of Gresham/Menadue/DBJ/Brown
Which ones community
Need Priddis and want Williams, maybe in the mids

    Spud Farmer · 24/05/2016 at 09:06

    Gresham 42
    Menapoo 57
    DBJ 106
    Brown 76
    Take your pick, I'd axe DBJ & Menaspud based on value, averages & B/E's.

      Jim · 24/05/2016 at 09:28

      Agreed, DBJ first, for more cash and he's projected to drop 15k this week, Brown last.
      Your choice between Gresh and the poo, whichever makes you feel better.

Dave · 24/05/2016 at 09:45

4 options:
Menadue and Oliver to hopper and Priddis
Menadue and brown to Williams and pridd
Menadue and Kennedy to Williams and pridd
Menadue and hewett to hopper and pridd
At the moment I have a very week m8 of a rotating hewett/smith/Keyes

    Derek · 24/05/2016 at 10:43

    i like 2. Brown has a high BE, this way you free up the cash he has made. Williams might not play, but a risk worth taking (plus he is DPP and might be handy to set up a swingset in the run home once you are at full premium)

    priddis is a no-brainer.

Saundo · 24/05/2016 at 12:36

Should we consider trading Martin ?

    davo · 24/05/2016 at 13:05

    It sucks but if west is named again in ruck going to have to consider for sure

    Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 13:08

    I think that Martin to Goldy should be considered if you have plenty of trades, if Trent West stays fit and in the squad I fear martin will be a liability and you will lose significant points in that ruck position.

MzD · 24/05/2016 at 12:36

Rance or Boyd guys ? One is a 26 yo premo. Another is a 33 yr old premo. Im liking the younger fella

    Tommo · 24/05/2016 at 12:43

    Rance because of his age and also because he seemed to have less of an impact when Suckling and JJ were in the team, they are close to a return so may limit his imput.

      Tommo · 24/05/2016 at 12:43

      When i say he, i mean Boyd*

        MzD · 24/05/2016 at 12:51

        I feel same way. And Boyd may be rested in between. Rance may have one more drop but 10k-20k should be a factor when deciding premos atm.

          MzD · 24/05/2016 at 12:52


          Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 13:10

          Yeah 520k is fairly reasonable for Rance regardless of BE.

            Derek · 24/05/2016 at 13:43

            Rance will be my last premium.

              I N Pieman · 24/05/2016 at 14:31

              Boyd expensive now

Bigdog · 24/05/2016 at 13:08

Hello community
Just out of interest,, what are people's teams worth at this early stage, and what do you predict the good teams will finish up being worth? My team is 12.6 million which I think will be mid table…

    Derek · 24/05/2016 at 13:42

    last year the top teams were all around $14mil – $14.5mil

toddles · 24/05/2016 at 13:24

getting to premiums is in the eye of each coach for instance some have wells as a premium others not whose right and if you say the top 6 or 8 def /mids then unless you can read the future whos to know where wells will fit in.The other example I see is j j .Could well be when he comes back and what about hall remember how he finished 2015 so its not unrealistic to include him.It really is an individual choice.IF you said Montagna is a better F6 than hall or wells then how would you say that .Is it on 2015 data or we know for the next 12 weeks monty will ton up each week not get reported or injured and hall and wells will spud up Good luck to you if you include Libba wells or hall even Petracca as premiums I WONT SAY YOURE WRONG

    toddles · 24/05/2016 at 13:49

    agree toddy a better example would be Parker some say he is others not I really don't think there is a criterium to say who is and who isn't premium what about Cripps is he going to go nuts and 120 each week we don't know Derek would be quite within his rights to include ZAC dawson but I COULD PRESENT AN ARGUEMENT THERE

      benjamen · 24/05/2016 at 13:54

      sorry sitting beside Toddy didn't change name

    benjamen · 24/05/2016 at 14:19

    If 2 coaches had the exact team except m8 one had Libba the other Parker and Derek zac I would say Derek would be premium as are the other two I just don't trust ROSS ..how to judge premiums is conjecture at its best Bet there will ten different formulas

      Derek · 24/05/2016 at 15:01

      you only need go back to the first game of the season.
      Dawson, Barlow and Fyfe…all scored the EXACT same SC points (so it is fair to say that at the start of the season there wasn't much separating them in ability and scoring). if teams were identical, and you had to pick just one of those three, guess who would have won last week? huh!! Zac – 28. Barlow – 0, Fyfe – 0.

        bobby · 24/05/2016 at 16:01

        doesn't really answer the question what is a premium is yours different to Southern are you right or am I right.if zac finishes top 6 def at years end then he is a premium but nobody knows whether he will or not its guesswork

HallyM8 · 24/05/2016 at 13:41

Is kurt Tippett a solid option? Cracked the ton last four weeks and wouldn't mind a ruck/fwd swingset

    Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 14:56

    I have my doubts with Tippett but he continues to get it done, has the handy ruck/fwd swing and under 6% ownership.

    Low BE of 42 this week.

Joe · 24/05/2016 at 13:49

Going with a double downgrade this week community:
Brown to Williams & Menadue to Hopper via dpp
This gives me 17 trades and 405k, leaving my team like this:

B: Shaw, Simpson, Gibson, Rance, AMT, Laird (Ruggles, Williams)
M: Danger, Pendles, Hannebery, Shiel, Libba, Cripps, Smith, Hopper (Davis, Keays, Dunkley)
R: Gawn, Naitanui (Loersch)
F: Dusty, Zorko, Hall, Greene, Wells, Petracca (Kerridge, Adams)

Thoughts community? Should I do something else instead?

breakevens · 24/05/2016 at 14:03

Thoughts community
217k in the bank
Trades this week: Hartley to Williams, DBJ to Wingard DPP
B: Shaw, Simpson, Bartel, AMT, Adams, Laird (Ruggles, Williams)
M: Danger, Parker, Ward, Dustin, Gazza, Libba, Priddis, Smith (Davis, Keays, Gore)
R: Nic Nat, Gawn (Grimley)
F: Dalhaus, Merrett, Hall, Kerridge, Wingard, Petracca (Wells, Cox)

clare · 24/05/2016 at 14:13

thinking of the other Williams thoughts

    I N Pieman · 24/05/2016 at 14:30

    So am I

    Southern S · 24/05/2016 at 14:54

    Both Williams are good options I reckon.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/05/2016 at 14:26

Options think I just need to trade my ar$e off from here on in as sitting out of the 8 in most of my league due to outs/injuries so need to go hard or go home else won't b in finals if I wait till the byes think it will b too late.

So thoughts on trades this week.
Dbj to hopper via dpp
Ben Ken to zorko.
Loose my dpp but think hopper will be solid at m8
Smith – Matteson
Dbj – zorko

Keep dpp but loose $ off Smith?

Willing to wait in Def as gibbo/McVeigh will drop further. It is so up and down. Got shaw, laird, doc will get Simmo after his bye.
Two weeks Selwood should b around a juicy $500k. Pushes hopper onto the bench to moo till after his bye.

    The Ranger · 24/05/2016 at 14:36

    No love for Enright? He's dropped nearly 50K in price.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 24/05/2016 at 16:52

      Wasn't on my radar thanks for the heads up will have a look at boris.

    Whykickamoocow · 24/05/2016 at 15:14

    I, like many have considered Hopper. I would be wary of Hopper, better to go Matheison because of his job security and cheap price. Hopper is too expensive and I would be worried about his job security especially when Griffin returns in a couple of weeks. Also Tomlinson and Steele did well at the weekend in their league and will be played soon. I feel many are jumping on the Hopper bandwagon because of his 100+ in his first game against and ordinary GCS. Remember Papley's first two games?

Jeremy18 · 24/05/2016 at 14:27

Just asking, will anyone be looking to trade out Sam Kerridge?

    I N Pieman · 24/05/2016 at 14:30

    Nope. Considering him as a floating M9 F7 spare. If possible

    Tommo · 24/05/2016 at 14:42

    Eventually yes, but not until the byes.

    Ketut · 24/05/2016 at 14:47

    I'll turn him into Dalhaus/Zorko in 2 weeks time most likely

The Ranger · 24/05/2016 at 14:51

Menadue and Hartley > Williams and Enright

or just Menadue to Williams?

20 trades and $186K before trading this week.
The above would leave my def as…
Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Enright, Simpson, Yeo, Adams, Williams which would suffice until after the byes when i would look to upgrade Yeo to Rance or Doc.
I realise Hartley could make a bit more cash but Enright is cheap this week and plays the Blues next.

Cameron · 24/05/2016 at 14:53

When people say he will be a top 8 midfielder or top 6 defender or whatever, are they referring to total points or average?

    Derek · 24/05/2016 at 15:17

    usually average is a good indicator of how good they are

      Cameron · 24/05/2016 at 15:22

      oh right, so even if a player misses games but has a solid average he would still be classified as a top 8 mid?

        Derek · 24/05/2016 at 15:29

        i would say so. having said that, i won't be getting Fyfe into my team for the run home.

        ideally you have a good M9/D7/F7 with swing sets in place to cover the premiums that miss a week.

        i was talking up JPK about how he had played 106 of the last 108 games, brought him in and then he misses. can't predict these things.

        JamiesNinjas13 · 24/05/2016 at 15:31

        I never really look at the total points, I look at the avg. There are players like Rockliff where you cannot judge them by their total points or average in the early season because he always goes beast mode in the last 10 games of the year.

        Hubba · 24/05/2016 at 17:11

        Points per minute is also important . Eg: on Wells' last game he pulled a 60odd in a half of footy which pulled his average under 100… Look through their history and see if theres a reason behind a low score. Historically Rockys average always is a victim of his inevitable half-games where he gets injured .

          The Ranger · 24/05/2016 at 17:26

          And also, at this stage of the season you should be looking at the fixture and thinking about who will score the most points from here on not who will have the highest average or total points over the whole season.

Mickey P · 24/05/2016 at 15:07

Trade Gawn to Goldy – thoughts Community?

Before you shout me down, just looking for arguments both ways to make an informed decision as I know it is sideways and burns a trade which may not be worth it??
– Goldy is $7k cheaper and averaging 119ppg compared to Gawn average of 111ppg
– Goldy has two sub 100 scores and Gawn has five – more inconsistent
– Goldy averages 113 at Etihad and plays there 7 more times while Gawn averages 93 at MCG and plays there 6 more times

I have 23 trades left and Nic Nat as my other ruck, would prefer to focus on upgrading cash cows, but Gawn about to plummet and Goldy about to shoot up means this chance wont come again this season – what to do!!!!????

    Hubba · 24/05/2016 at 17:02

    No no no .. He will come good … your premos will ebb and flow .. + or – 100k is not that unusual. I'd back him in against lobb, mcevoy and grundy over the next 3 weeks …

      BanthaFodder71 · 24/05/2016 at 20:15

      Goldy….. lockitineddie!

Slipperydip · 24/05/2016 at 15:26

I am considering two trades this week. Parish and Brown, because it appears they have maxed out to, Zac Merrett and Mathieson or, if I trade Parish and Ben Kennedy, I can afford Dahlhaus and Mathieson. No matter what I do, I cannot afford Hopper because he is far too expensive and Griffin will take his spot down the track. Earlier, some Moocow guy posted a comment about Hopper's job security and I concur to a certain extent. I am not too fussed with my planned trades as Dahlhaus and Merrett average about the same with Dahlhaus being more expensive but playing for a team who will win more often then the Bombers. Community, what do you think?

Campbell · 24/05/2016 at 18:40

16k and 16 trades
Option 1: DBJ and Parish to B Williams and Priddis
Option 2: DBJ and Parish to B Williams and Hopper
Option 2 generates loads of cash but I'm still not sure which one to go for.
Which option is better?

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